zealot-class

[rocky marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-monkey-cool-epik-gif-25496497

[ripe quest]

No because it has good finesse, high cleave, and hits fast. Also has absurd cleave profiles.

[pale spindle]

chainsword is pretty insane for a heavy weapon when it comes to crits tho

[rocky marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-pissed-annoyed-irritated-furious-gif-4908411

[pale spindle]

imagine if chain weapons crit with every chain hit

holy fuck

everyone would run the axe again 💀

LA LA LA LA

[rocky marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/run-afraid-gun-monkey-gif-15569301

^ this would be me

[pale spindle]

comboing?

"cc chanings"?

what's that?

just light attack 4HEAD

[rocky marsh]

there is no more W key

only F key

no more WASD, no more slide

[pale spindle]

me downloading a left click auto clicker macro while playing zealot

[red pollen]

Would completely delete the existence of the chastise tech though

[pale spindle]

tbh thats already the average loner zealot with knife 💀

[rocky marsh]

tech?

what chastise tech

[ember yew]

probably means popping chastice after revved special do its initial hit for 100% crit sequence

[red pollen]

After your chain weapon connects you use chastise so the impact doesn’t get the crit and damage, the revv does

That’s how a chainsword with no buffs can one shot a crusher

[red pollen]

100% crit, plus extra damage, plus drops armor class of the enemy.

[rocky marsh]

imagine next patch they make bulwark shield breakable

[pale spindle]

i'm not sure if I should drop backstab for enduring faith tho

do I want more cooldown for book or more damage reduction?

🤔

[ember yew]

imagine next patch

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-2813086212540319582

[rocky marsh]

i still dun get why you run top left tree

[pale spindle]

what's wrong with top left?

[rocky marsh]

top right better :v, heck you can even run top middle for immo nade
top left usually for martyr

[pale spindle]

the very top right yeah i agree, but grenades and aura?

[red pollen]

It’s bad

[rocky marsh]

ya i meant the top parts, including nade.
you already going to spam chorus, don't really need nade so can just take tknives.
else go for immo nade if you want. actually no point going top left.

[red pollen]

The first talent resets every other attack because the attack that benefits from it doesn’t refresh it, enemies within enemies without is borderline useless or completely useless, reducing damage on next wound is purely ret4rded, there is nothing good on the left side

[pale spindle]

stun grenade > immolate

[red pollen]

It’s noob trap city

[pale spindle]

also i need to stay on the left side to preserve nodes and keep the reduction aura

[rocky marsh]

i prefer immo, doesn't make sense you take stun nade when you have aoe stun

If i was you i would just go full top right.

Basically what @red pollen says.

[pale spindle]

prob with immolate is it does no damage to armored enemies

[rocky marsh]

maybe ewew

[rocky marsh]

neither does stun nade...

[pale spindle]

i understand that the inidivual nodes are better, but loner is useless in this build

[pale spindle]

it ccs them

thats what I want

immolate does nothing

[red pollen]

So many ways to generate toughness as zealot especially when you’re talking about cooldown reduction

[pale spindle]

also stun nades CC ragers

[red pollen]

Loner is useless in every single way

[pale spindle]

indeed I hate the zealot tree because of this

[red pollen]

If you’re unable to avoid a couple extra disablers you shouldn’t be playing loner style anyway, and the 2 coherency does virtually nothing for toughness generation

[pale spindle]

the only reason u take loner is if you are going full knife zealot stealth, and it isn't because it's "better" it's just because u will never be with your team anyways 💀

[rocky marsh]

but its cheap,
you not taking second life, or chatise. migh as well just take loner aura.

[pale spindle]

but why?

[south folio]

it's not like the auras are particularly impactful so it is what it is

[pale spindle]

15% damage reduction is 3 curios worth of stats

[south folio]

it's mostly the pathing above that matters

[rocky marsh]

i asked exhil about duelsit for caxe, no threshold change, so i assume same for your taxe.
means duelist useless.

So its really only for the aura

[pale spindle]

i just dont see the benefits after the grenade slot

[rocky marsh]

more points into other stuff
basically i would either do one of these

2

[pale spindle]

the only thing that might be good is thy wrath be swift

[rocky marsh]

i still feel the loner one much better

[pale spindle]

bruh why do u keep taking second wind

[rocky marsh]

no logici n wasting so much points just to take TDR aura

[pale spindle]

😔

[rocky marsh]

tbh if you crit alot i would swap holy cause for enduring on the TDR aura build

[rocky marsh]

good source of toughness regen

[pale spindle]

no it's not u know what 15% is?

it's not your total toughness

[south folio]

15% on a 0.5s icd is pretty good

yes

it is working off of your total toughness

[red pollen]

Even then it’s useless

I run knife zealot to solo missions I assure you I don’t miss loner generating less toughness for me than enemies within enemies without

[rocky marsh]

15% good but everything along the way is wasted

[rocky marsh]

thats my opinion

@south folio would you path loner or TDR aura in this case

[spare dome]

what's happening here

[south folio]

at least i consider it the best since second wind is just fucking goated

[spare dome]

is this what happens when we leave the discord unsupervised

[south folio]

i always path to TDR because of until death and duellist

[red pollen]

Anyone who suggests Loner is someone you shouldn’t take advice from ever again

[pale spindle]

undering faith is 50% damage reduciton

u know what 50% is?

[south folio]

damn

good thing i can take both

and i do take both for crit builds

[rocky marsh]

@south folio ?

[south folio]

mf i literally play crit builds do you think i'm shitting i'm enduring faith

i'm just saying that second wind is good

[rocky marsh]

i don't think need duelist for taxe, no thresholds broken

[south folio]

that's not disparaging enduring faith at all

[spare dome]

i actually have started dumping enduring faith in some of my builds because your overall toughness generation is so ridiculous and your baked in TDR so good that you dont really super need it

[pale spindle]

he didn't take both on the build

that's what I'm being critical

[rocky marsh]

then uh this one has both :v

[south folio]

seems good

[pale spindle]

the previous one

[south folio]

i run chainsword though

so i don't need crit dr on backstab and would prefer twbs

just for deterministic availability and not potentially getting staggered during a sketchy moment

[pale spindle]

im not going right side for benediction that shit is copium

[south folio]

though i've always been tempted to go down loner

just to save points

[pale spindle]

until death prob one of the most useless nodes in the game change my mind

[south folio]

nah

[spare dome]

do it

[south folio]

one of the best

[spare dome]

succumb to the darkness

[south folio]

go away you crack addict

[rocky marsh]

what is benediction

[south folio]

the +tdr aura

[pale spindle]

ur then bad at the game and need to learn how to block

🚶🏻

[rocky marsh]

save alot bro :v
just dun die then you won't use 2nd life ezpz
you are pro player you can do it

[south folio]

until death lets me play stupid which is very nice

[spare dome]

+15% TDR on a Aura is nonsensically good.

[south folio]

i don't want to play passive all the time

i want to be able to dive and do stupid shit and live

[spare dome]

you can still do that

just dont die

[south folio]

@vocal pulsar kill

[pale spindle]

something that is only useful only 1% of the time versus 99% of the time is objectively worse

[south folio]

sure, but the way that i look at it is that it gives me the leeway to play stupid

[spare dome]

ye

[south folio]

and in that sense, the uptime is much higher

[spare dome]

dont use until death as a safety net

[pale spindle]

so ur admitting u are playing the game poorly?

[south folio]

e.g., I can go out into the open where there's a sniper and not have to worry about dying for 5 seconds

[spare dome]

USE until death to run into insane scenarios and come out on top

[south folio]

sure

i admit i don't play optimally

[pale spindle]

2 nodes for a cution is a waste for me

i dont want to go down

[rocky marsh]

orcka i have the feeling nobody can change your mind

[south folio]

the left side also has duellist

which is the second reason to go down the left side

[south folio]

the third reason is that fury of the faithful is on the left side

[pale spindle]

at least dualist has 100% uptime

[vocal pulsar]

Goodbye, arco

[rocky marsh]

its as if, you are looking at "weakness" in the points stated instead of what people are trying to tell you

[south folio]

so i'm taking the tax to go down the left side anyways

and also i don't make use of desperation for most builds that don't use the crusher

[pale spindle]

desperation is pretty dogshit

but at least it has more uptime than copium

[south folio]

what is this hatred for until death

[ember yew]

i use it for mk6 knife since i poke eyes from the enemies all the time, but i think after someone did the math, its like 10% overall damage increase or 8%

[wooden moat]

Is there any actually good axe for zealot?

[ember yew]

i forgot

[spare dome]

tbh its pretty simple

[south folio]

being able to play stupidly when maulers/crushers/snipers are in the round is p nice
or being able to dive alone and take stupid hit trades without worrying about griefing your team

[spare dome]

any weapon with a good push attack or push attack-centric combo

loves desperation

[south folio]

main problem is that it's p much knife and crusher and whatnot

[drifting wolf]

dive into hell

[pale spindle]

u could jsut u know

[south folio]

and for knife, heavy spam is better anyways

[spare dome]

evis II

[pale spindle]

not get hit

🤯

[south folio]

no

[spare dome]

taxes, too

[red pollen]

This chat is killing me with people suggesting loner you must not know what it does

[spare dome]

you just gotta trigger it once every five seconds, so

[pale spindle]

only reason u should be getting hit as zealot is by gunners tbh

[south folio]

i prefer to play aggressive and hit trade as much as possible

[red pollen]

The fact that loner is an aura, means that giving yourself coherency does nothing, because you don’t have an aura to share with yourself.

[spare dome]

but also the game is so stupid generous with regenerated stamina on taking a hit that it can actually be a pain in the ass to empty your stamina bar sometimes lmao

[south folio]

i dislike losing DPS by playing defensively if possible

[red pollen]

The real use is to reduce the number of disablers that target you

[south folio]

i cri

[pale spindle]

in melle u should have no problems unless u literally can't move

[south folio]

i play brainlessly so i get overheaded occasionally

[rocky marsh]

wouldn't you regen toughness with loner?

[red pollen]

And if you can’t dodge disablers you shouldn’t be playing a liner style to begin with

[spare dome]

"nooooo my weapon isnt doing maximal optimum damage whyyy"
scab gunner who cant kill me: "hahaha machine gun make stamina bar go brrr"

[south folio]

i play with exactly 1 braincell

[drifting wolf]

relatable

[south folio]

virgin desperation vs chad deadshot

[red pollen]

Yeah but close to nothing and with a delay when you’re already getting instant toughness regeneration on half of your talents

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yget4xVAulE

[rocky marsh]

the loner stop director throwing disabler at you, i thought that was just rumor / unconfirmed?

[spare dome]

definitely a rumour

[red pollen]

If it’s not true then all the more reason it’s utterly worthless

[spare dome]

and i will keep perppetuating it

[pale spindle]

ok so just admit u r bad and move on, I'm not asking people to play perfect on damnation maelstrom but that doesn't change the fact that until death is useless if you just learn to position slightly better

[rocky marsh]

i would run loner soley because of cheaper build

[spare dome]

because the idea of people using it and immediatley getting hit by specialists is funny to me

[south folio]

move on from what

[red pollen]

Huge fact

[south folio]

i'm just saying that i like until death

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/selfish-soyjak-soy-jak-wojak-baby-gif-6611371863076339224

[south folio]

and that you're going left and that desperation is not getting used in a lot of builds

[rocky marsh]

i mean, if you are going tdr aura, and duelist does not change thresholds....

???

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-sucker-succ-pog-gif-5055206602185854794

[south folio]

and being able to avoid difficulty spike scenarios where you go down from the occasional overhead/sniper shot is p nice

[maiden path]

mods fish suck his head

https://tenor.com/view/fish-sucker-succ-pog-gif-5055206602185854794

[spare dome]

this is my taxe build. but that's a lie because this is really just 95% of zealot builds. you may not like it, but this is peak zealot performance.

(with like maybe three nodes you can swap around)

[pale spindle]

Where is stealth? Smh

[rocky marsh]

i run soc because im skrub

[pale spindle]

I honestly hate how the best ability on the Zealot tree is on the right side

[spare dome]

invis is ok

[pale spindle]

It makes me soo sad

[south folio]

e.g., saving one point by not taking the until death line is not going to get me anything particularly impactful besidees Disdain which doesn't work quite well

[spare dome]

i just find it way more fun with a knife

[pale spindle]

It's literally the best ability in the entire game what

The position is horrific true

[spare dome]

eh

arguably VoC is the best ability in the game

[pale spindle]

But in isolation yeah it's better than everything else

[obtuse stirrup]

It's not even the best on Zealot lol

[south folio]

it'd be the best on zealot if fury didn't exist

[rocky marsh]

AiB was duelist, but mr exhil say duelist no change caxe thresholds (which coincides with what i remmeber from damage values of caxe) so change to aib

my build atm

[spare dome]

thats caxes tho

[obtuse stirrup]

Double charge Fury is busted

[pale spindle]

Yes it is. With cooldown reduction u literally can reset fights every 5 seconds and regen tough

[spare dome]

it def changes for taxes

[rocky marsh]

oh i c

[south folio]

21m dash, +25% attack speed for 10 seconds, armour downgrade for 3 seconds

[rocky marsh]

sorry

[spare dome]

but it also depends if we're talking lights or heavies

[pale spindle]

You literally become unkillable because u just reset agro

[spare dome]

50% toughness regen'd

[brave summit]

If you are running throwing knives. What ranged weapon do you use?

[spare dome]

bolber

[south folio]

i like to run bolter/flamer

[rocky marsh]

me me run kant shotgun

[south folio]

cuz it just opens those weapons up and patches their weaknesses

[spare dome]

the only thing taxe cant handle is crushers

so u apply bolber

to the forehead

[south folio]

bolber

[rocky marsh]

how does boltgun become

bolber.

[south folio]

flaber

[spare dome]

cuz bolber

[south folio]

cuz exploits

[rocky marsh]

i sense

stan wiki going to come soon.

mr dough

[red pollen]

Bolterrrr

[spare dome]

and ya invis takes a big hit by being under loner

[rocky marsh]

exploit why you run taxe instead of caxe

[spare dome]

loner is so bad, it's hilarious

because i got bored of caxes roughly 1,800hrs ago

it's one moveset for both axes repeating

and achlys is a fun joke but thats it

[spare dome]

dont u fkn DARE

talk shit about my purity bacon

[rocky marsh]

;)

oh no mah corruption

thank kew UwU removed eet

[spare dome]

purity is so damn legit

too bad the nodes above it are 4/5 questionable AF

[ripe quest]

It's one of our faster weapons.

[nimble fiber]

[red pollen]

Imagine loner just reads exactly what it does. “After taking damage, wait 3 seconds then begin generating 1% toughness per second” and you chose that over a flat 20% toughness damage reduction or cleansing corruption

[south folio]

alas

[spare dome]

for most people it's barely 1% depending on their toughness bar

[rocky marsh]

cleansing ocrruption good only because of poxyb right :v

[spare dome]

if someone's packing loner they are either intensely dumb and mislead, or they know they're good enough to completely forfeit the other auras

either way you're about to witness some shit

[rocky marsh]

in a5histg its not like you always get revived anyway

[red pollen]

Nurgle fights 1v1

[rocky marsh]

but but thats so

luck :v

what if no nurge

:V

[spare dome]

Corruption is quite a few things

[red pollen]

Then take toughness damage reduction aura

[spare dome]

Poxwalkers, Bursters, Hounds, Trapper net, Plague Ogryn swipe, CSpawn monch, everything that is the Beast of Nurgle

[royal ridge]

quick question is there any way to change an operative's voice

[pale spindle]

usually when I do furry build it's this:

[spare dome]

sadly no once you pick a voice that's it

[vocal pulsar]

furry

[royal ridge]

fuck

[red pollen]

I run crits with shroudfield and zig zag the talent tree because not a noob eating every noob trap

[pale spindle]

:furry

😄

[rocky marsh]

but but my points

:v

[pale spindle]

purity>loner

[spare dome]

ye it's about da points

[pale spindle]

at LEAST purity is useful for books

[rocky marsh]

if i go top right, i need to spend extra 2 just to go TDR aura, not good

[spare dome]

thats how i do stabby

and i have to take loner

or else im missing out on way too much in the top/bottom half

[rocky marsh]

i wanted to get immo nade on my caxe judgement build so i did this, i haven't try it yet tho :v

[spare dome]

i forget nades are even a thing for zealot

[rocky marsh]

annoying when i feel scared of crusher + bulwark

[pale spindle]

me wanting to have a benediction + shroudfield build and have like 50+ damage reduction while also being invisible:

1st world problems 😔

[rocky marsh]

thats just called greed

[pale spindle]

pls fatshark just change loner

[obtuse stirrup]

I'll have to try a knife pervert build without Loner

[rocky marsh]

i feel loner is a punishment

[obtuse stirrup]

I apparently have been overrating it

[rocky marsh]

have to set you back somehow for going right side

for savin points

[fossil crag]

This is how i set up my zealot, i know UD and HR are not good but i just have those so i can play stupid the whole run and rush forward, if it ever gets proc i go back and chill with my teamates until its back and then i can go stupid shyt again

[obtuse stirrup]

I thought it also affected your toughness regeneration from melee kills

[pale spindle]

knife is just the best weapon in all classes change my mind 🧍🏻

[obtuse stirrup]

I guess not lmao

When you're good with it, it's fucking fantastic

One of the harder ones to get good with though

[pale spindle]

is retribution's stance actually useful?

[fossil crag]

Mobility creep

[fossil crag]

1/20 games it becomes useful edit i thought your talking about until death nvm

its giga useless but i like to have it so i can rush forward

[obtuse stirrup]

What is that?

[pale spindle]

the bottom left of Judgement

[spare dome]

'can be' is the answer

[obtuse stirrup]

I forget what it even does

[spare dome]

'often not' is also the answer

[obtuse stirrup]

I just take Inebriate's and forget the other exists

[pale spindle]

every stack of momentum u consume gives u 2% toughness

so lets say u get 20 stacks, u get 40% back after you attack something

[obtuse stirrup]

Eh, Zealot toughness regeneration is kinda shit imo so more sources isn't bad, but it triggers very infrequently and the first trigger is usually wasted

[spare dome]

you gotta see it in practice

[pale spindle]

i think itsaa decent IF mommentum resets faster

[spare dome]

and it's not even just the first trigger

[pale spindle]

but it doesn't so

[red pollen]

Why take backstab and not just a flat 10% more crit which makes your crit hits cooldown hit more often anyway while also boosting damage and saving your 2 talent points (or more)

[pale spindle]

💀

[obtuse stirrup]

Would rather just get more Fury of the faithfuls

[spare talon]

Only when it procs
So it's dogshit

[pale spindle]

yes

[spare talon]

It requires you to have missing toughness the moment you trigger it

[pale spindle]

if it did every time u get a stack that would be different

[spare talon]

Which is once every 8(?) seconds

[fossil crag]

weird interaction where you charge and get stuck in some enemies, for some reason when you kill those units it gives you backstab cd allowing you to get charge back

[pale spindle]

yes

[spare talon]

But what weapon are you using

[fossil crag]

or it can just be pious cut throat not doing anything and just crits

[fossil crag]

knife

[spare talon]

Then that's fine

[pale spindle]

how useful is faithful frenzy tho?

it's half of furry

[spare dome]

hard to say specifically

[red pollen]

Are you sure that’s not just because fury of the faithful gave you a guaranteed crit on everything you just charged into? Funny interaction; on the crusher, it’s charged attack will explode and stagger everything around you, and while it won’t do shit damage to most of them, it will count as a crit on all of them and instantly refresh fury of the faithful

[spare talon]

Knife and heavy weapons are the main ones that benefit from backstab

[spare dome]

but static 10% attack speed is very strong

[spare talon]

Which one

[spare dome]

attack speed is one of those stats that you should be gobbling up wherever you can find it

[pale spindle]

because I have one node left in the furry build, either put it into faithful frenzy or good balance

[fossil crag]

i mean if what you said about me staggering everything around me then i guess some of the stuff i stagger turn their back on me then i back stab for 20% cd

[pale spindle]

the node in the center bottom

[spare talon]

Just remember it's less effective the more you have

[pale spindle]

in the book build I think it has more value

more attacks = more chances to crit

more crits = lower cooldown

[spare talon]

So at a certain point, the value from more attack speed isn't worth the point cost over other stuff

[pale spindle]

but for furry im not soo sure

[spare dome]

hypothetically yes but i dont believe we ever reach such a breakpoint in DarkTide

[pale spindle]

there are other nodes like swift certanty

[spare talon]

Swift certainty honestly isn't really that great

[spare dome]

take it for speeeeeed

[red pollen]

Bruh

It’s just unbelievably great

[pale spindle]

this is my new book build:

[spare dome]

gotta take something for momentum anyway

[pale spindle]

maybe this is better?

again im using a tac axe

[spare talon]

It's literally just a 10% sprint boost which is basically for knife only
The other half of the perk is borderline useless

[red pollen]

Ditch all 3 talents under knife in the loner tab

[red pollen]

As long as you’re moving bullets never hit you isn’t useless and knife is the weapon that needs it least

[pale spindle]

replace them with what?

[rocky marsh]

if no need SA, then i think actually pretty good

[spare talon]

It has to be at an angle from the fire and you still have to be sprinting, which means not attacking

[spare dome]

and you can already do that without SC

just not with an empty stamina bar

[spare talon]

Guess what doesn't have to be at an angle and also allows you to attack when doing ig

Sliding

[spare dome]

seriously it's really just for the sprint speed

[red pollen]

Yeah just lets you sprint across an open area to close the gab without butt scooting the entire time

[rocky marsh]

when you sprint with knife heavy at an angle, can you dodge bullet?

[spare dome]

but it is 10% compounding with your other move speed bonuses

so it's a pretty potent bonus

[south folio]

swift certainty doesn't change that

you cana lready do that as long as you have stamina and the ranged attack is perpendicular to you

[pale spindle]

yes i like it allow on furry, but with the book build you are forced to lean to the left side

[south folio]

and you regenerate 1 bar of stamina on getting hit when below 50% stamina

so stamina isn't an issue when ranged enemies are in play

[rocky marsh]

asking cause i remember doing the knife heavy to run faster has some weird interaction

[fossil crag]

need to slide

at the end of heavy

and it save stamina or something

[south folio]

it's a speed boost but doesn't do anything special besides that

[pale spindle]

is thy wrath actually good?

the not being able to be stunned what does that mean?

like the block animation?

or any hit

[fossil crag]

it has a bug where it doesnt stun you with shooters

[south folio]

melee hit or ranged attack to health/while sprinting

[rocky marsh]

i take it even on my caxe

Mean you won't get interrupted by enemy attacks just like you said

[fossil crag]

not really sure where i heard that but i have heard that somewhere

[south folio]

TWBS is pretty good for deterministic availability

[rocky marsh]

i found it annoying when i want to heavy crushers and then zombies hit me, then no more heavy

[south folio]

since i dislike being staggered when i need to dodge a trapper/crusher/sniper/etc.

[red pollen]

That’s my 9 minute hab dreyko build

[rocky marsh]

i thought you knew - as in that was the reason why your original build didn't have twbs @pale spindle

[pale spindle]

isn't judegment better with knife?

[red pollen]

My brain just broke what is judgment again

[south folio]

momentum

[pale spindle]

bottom right keystone

[red pollen]

Oh right I take it to spam cooldown with bleed knife so I can stealth endlessly and scan everything and the speed boost from stealth works fine as is, fast enough to beat storm raptor to the exfil and run past the bridge before it explodes

[pale spindle]

oh wait i forgot u cant take invocation 😔

if u go onto the right

[south folio]

crits also turn out to be quite good for knife cuz of its multipliers and another deranged reason

[pale spindle]

but what about backstab cooldown?

like both?

[red pollen]

I’m not interested in killing fast, the bleed stacks will kill everything so I just slice and keep moving

[pale spindle]

like this

[red pollen]

Not even bothering to get behind enemies half the time, just faster

I like the 25% crit chance and have bleed on crits for the knife, bleeding enemies give more crit, it gets crazy. It’s a red swing every single time just running like a blood hurricane through everything on screen while going zen master to scan in peace whenever I want to catch a breath

[pale spindle]

also if u take..... loner 🤢

u have a lot more points to use

but then again

loner 🤢

[red pollen]

I like momentum when I run crusher but I been using martyrdom crusher later for fun because it sucks and it’s a flex

[brave summit]

Hey hey hey, everyone has there own kinks alright!

[pale spindle]

im a professional kink shamer

im gonna CW it so u can be prepared

[red pollen]

I’m going back to the left side anyway for the 50% crit and 50% weak spot… aka possible best talent in darktide

[red pollen]

Don’t need stun immunity either when you realize you can still block and dodge if you get that half a second stun anyway

[pale spindle]

what about good balance?

[red pollen]

I run a stamina curio and have stamina regen on all curios so even the knife can block endlessly

Not to mention running more than Forrest Gump without breaking a sweat

[pale spindle]

is purge the unclean that valuable?

[red pollen]

I like it when I run boltgun

[pale spindle]

because wouldn't it be better to put the points onto faithful and sustained?

[red pollen]

Two magazines to kill any monster

[spare talon]

In higher difficulties you will typically have the stamina to do that regardless due to how short downtime between melee engagements are, since swift certainty only gives you that when you're out of stamina, and even when that does happen, like I said sliding does the exact same thing, so you're not gaining anything new that you can do
If it's just a travel node to momentum, the 20% backstab ends up being more useful cuz it procs way more often than you think regardless of weapon, which is an actual new benefit
Sorry im at work at a register so my response time is slower than fatsharks update schedule lol

[red pollen]

Can probably ditch it on this build but I made it on the fly and it’s worked absolutely brilliantly so far

[red pollen]

I don’t even use the talent but you are making me feel like I’m missing nothing

By skipping it

I just like going fast

[spare talon]

Yeah I'm saying that node is basically just a 10% sprint boost realistically

[red pollen]

Based

[spare talon]

I do use it with a build that is literally just speedrunning with knife for solo maelstroms with mmt for that exact reason tho

But that build isn't really made with killing power in mind lol

[pale spindle]

also I'm confused with thy wrath, is it useful for furry zealot if you are using chainsword for example?

[spare talon]

It is imho a mandatory node

[south folio]

i like it for hit trading and not getting staggered in critical moments

[spare talon]

Any build

[bitter anvil]

Furry zealot

[spare dome]

its always useful, but with chain weps specifically you can saw a HVT without worrying about getting hit out of it

[spare talon]

You cannot be staggered by any attack anymore

[pale spindle]

forries yes

[spare talon]

It says melee but it is also ranged

[pale spindle]

it's a refference to the warhammer video

😄

[forest cave]

Wrath is bugged(?) so it makes you immune to gun slows and knockbacks

[bitter anvil]

Focking forries

[forest cave]

if it gets fixed i cant imagine the node being very good

[north sedge]

it's intentional

just wrong tooltip

[forest cave]

Gotcha, the tooltips are bad yeah

[spare talon]

If it gets changed I'm actually quitting the game

[pale spindle]

because I hear people say "just use block" but i assume it is because they only think it stops the animation of getting hit

[spare talon]

It is the single node that turns on the fun mode of the game

[forest cave]

The dopamine rush of yeeting yourself at a gunner wall and not being staggered if one manages to start firing is insane

Before and after having that node made me love zealot

[bitter anvil]

Zealot feel like easy mode

[pale spindle]

is it better than good balance?

[spare talon]

Plus since they haven't fixed being staggered from ranged fire while at full toughness
It literally allows you to play the game at least normally

[bitter anvil]

Melee build made fun

[spare talon]

Yes

[forest cave]

Yee it's definitely my brain off class 🤷🏿‍♂️

[spare talon]

Not that good balance is bad

[forest cave]

But it's fun lol

[spare talon]

But twbs is literally just that good

[bitter anvil]

I love twbs

[pale spindle]

every other class struggling to move 2 feet

meanwhile zealot:

[bitter anvil]

I use twbs for heavy attack Crucis and ironhelm

[pale spindle]

is good balance better than frenzy tho? 🤔

[spare dome]

why is the social menu the only menu that has low GPU usage

so strange

[forest cave]

I just cant get into the Hammers. It feels like you take it solely for the big bonk dopamine rush but for the rest of the mission I wish I was using anything else

[pale spindle]

i have one point left in the fury build but it can only go into either good balance or frenzy

[forest cave]

Also the lazy side bonk that doesn't pierce 😐 the day we get an overhead thunderhammer is the day the heretics lost

[obtuse stirrup]

Try Ironhelm maybe

[spare dome]

ironhelm kicks a lot of ass

[obtuse stirrup]

Or go Vet or Ogryn with the bendy shovels

[forest cave]

Ogryn shovel gaming is v fun lately

Thrust with foldable braining a crusher is always fun

[pale spindle]

ok this is my refined book build:

what should I change? 🤔

[forest cave]

If your goal is literally just to spam books than stick with the crit keystone but inexorable is generally better DPS and the unlisted dodge boosts make you super nimble

Also Disdain is a bad node

[ember yew]

disdain is not good, while Anoint in Blood increase ranged damage by a huge amount if you are shooting nearby targets

you can also put that point into Until Death

[pale spindle]

i know disdain by itself is bad, but stacking with dualist, crit, fury, and faithful starts to get ridiculus

[pale spindle]

no 🧍🏻 that is the ONE thing I will never do

maybe i can move it to sustained?

wait does disdain stack well even if I'm just hitting one enemy?

because the tac axe can hit 2 people with lights, so I'm assuming it's a flat 10% increase most of the time

[forest cave]

Doesnt it only work every other attack?

[ember yew]

disdain only procs on every 2nd hit

yes

[pale spindle]

oh then yeah it's dogshit

[ember yew]

first hit get stacks - second hit uses them

[pale spindle]

but ig it's good on cleave weapons tho?

[forest cave]

Not really?

[pale spindle]

even if it is only every other swing, this plus chain sword = 50% damage increase

[forest cave]

They usually hit breakpoints that oneshot trash anyway

[ember yew]

usually sustained assault + other stuff is enough

no need for disdain

[forest cave]

My axe with inexorable + sustained and blessings cleaves through the horde on weakspots yee

Anoint in blood is absolutely insane with a columnus though

[pale spindle]

ok ill throw the node onto good balance or the flat 5% damage increase?

[forest cave]

I'd prune 15% toughness on dodge for the melee damage node + sustained

You're already going crit book, you have a lot of safety net

[pale spindle]

i want sustained assault but I'm not sure what i can remove to get it

[forest cave]

yeah zealot tree doesnt feel the most flexible

[pale spindle]

ig frenzy?

but frenzy is useful for the crit proc

ig this?

kinda feels bad I can't get second wind tho 😔

[oak ermine]

You could get rid of TDR upgrade for Chorus and grab it

[red pollen]

Second wind is amazing since it works on ranged attacks making it one of only two talents you have that can give toughness with no enemies near you, and dodging is something every single player with every single weapon should be doing every single second

[pale spindle]

isn't 30% kinda insane tho?

[red pollen]

I agree

[red pollen]

You have gold toughness after chorus either way and every enemies is dazed for a few seconds not to mention you’re running cooldown build to spam chorus

[fleet zealot]

Not really chorus already overshields

[red pollen]

When chorus ends is the only time you don’t need any help with toughness

[fleet zealot]

At that point your only worry is a toughness breaker which doesn’t care about tdr

Take damage boost everytime

Helps the fact your dps drops to 0 whenever you are channeling

[red pollen]

Zealot chat has been zealot chat all day and I’m so proud

[pale spindle]

btw @red pollen when ur doing knife zealot why don't u take sustained?

[fleet zealot]

I shall steal more ferrets

Sustained assault is out of the way for knife if you are going crit build, monentum knife users grab it tho

[red pollen]

Because I’m just letting bleed do all the work or one shotting stuff and I couldn’t decide where else to remove a talent

[fleet zealot]

Taps pins

#zealot-class message

[oak ermine]

It’s… not great? I don’t remember this exactly, but it probably is multiplicative with other sources, and so it stacking with other sources doesn’t really do a whole lot if the person being over shielded has other Toughness damage mitigation skills

[pale spindle]

so instead what points do u put, to get thy wrath?

[fleet zealot]

It’s not good at all to take tdr chorus

It literally is only toughness breakers that are a threat with overshield and existing tdr sources

Plus you shouldnt be taking that much damage iicbh

Dodge slide block kill should be your primary defense

[shy hull]

Man, Thunder hammer is so shit... At least for me

It feels like 10x the trouble for 10x less result than most zealot weapons

[pale spindle]

i always say, why use thunder if you can use crusher 🤷🏻

[shy hull]

ikr

The blast feels so good to land

but that's it

it doesn't even OS crusher unless you spend a year charging the attack and land a weakspot hit

[obtuse stirrup]

Or just skip the modifiers

[shy hull]

It feels lame

[red pollen]

I don’t run thy wrath anymore

[obtuse stirrup]

Damage boost is ok for bosses but that's it imo

[pale spindle]

on stealth zealot or in general?

[red pollen]

On knife with shroudfield at least, I’ll have to experiment with other builds and see if they need it. I know I’ve used fury of the faithful into flamers and shotgunners and had them completely stop me dead in my tracks without it so I think it’s just mandatory on fury of the faithful builds

[austere grail]

The stun resist seems mostly useless

[fleet zealot]

Also true

[austere grail]

You cant attack for a very short time when stunned but you can just block

[fleet zealot]

Anything to compensate for chorus lack of damage

[obtuse stirrup]

It's amazing for most builds but perhaps shroudfield covers it

[obtuse stirrup]

Chorus is a pause button for you and the enemy

But not for your team

[pale spindle]

it's bugged atm the reason why it's good is because it also works on ranged

[obtuse stirrup]

It's effectively a damage boost because your team can simply be aggressive into the space you gained them

[obtuse stirrup]

Bugged, or maybe just a misleading description

[red pollen]

It’s fun to pair chorus with fire grenades and circle around a horde of bulwarks and chaff using the pulses to push them all into the fire

[austere grail]

Oh thats good

[fleet zealot]

That is just the smite argument which is half true

But a lot of teams im in are good enough they dont need the space created by chorus

[obtuse stirrup]

Smite is underrated too imo lol

[fleet zealot]

Or your team can suck nurgle nuts and somehow do less while chorus is active

[austere grail]

I HATE SMITE

[obtuse stirrup]

Everything apart from raw damage is

[fleet zealot]

It isn’t

[obtuse stirrup]

Very true

[fleet zealot]

Most people build it poorly

[austere grail]

Too many people on auric smiting poxwalker hordes :/

[obtuse stirrup]

I see people take Smite and pairing it with Shield though

[fleet zealot]

Venting shriek soulblaze+ all the soulblaze talents+ EP

[obtuse stirrup]

Which is like

[fleet zealot]

Actual hordeclear

[obtuse stirrup]

Fuckin why

[obtuse stirrup]

Can also do warp Siphon for more frequent Shrieks

[fleet zealot]

Actually wears down elites to the point you can get killfeeds

[fleet zealot]

Not worth the damage loss

EP is a massive boost

[austere grail]

Siphon lets you spam shriek

Wayyy more

[fleet zealot]

Just take that 5% cdr talent up by middle (not the aura)

[austere grail]

Not enough shriek spam

[pale spindle]

Like yeah in melee, as a zelaot u should never have much trouble being staggered, but against gunners and shotguns this node literally is a godsend

[fleet zealot]

Enough for me

[red pollen]

Funny thing about my knife build … I made it for sedition. I was waiting for any Hab Dreyko to rotate on the mission terminal for like 15 minutes and then finally one came. Sedition. Just took a knife, made a quick crit build to cooldown shroudfield, ran it 9 minutes no one joined. Next rotation was auric maelstrom Hab Dreyko, forgot to change back to my usual build, ran it anyway, easiest auric maelstrom run I’d ever had.

[fleet zealot]

I hate warp charges being tied to quicken

(Quicken is the level feat before the talent rework that consumed your charges for cdr)

[austere grail]

EP isnt bad but siphon is mostly just better

[fleet zealot]

No cause my brain wants the 6 charges buff

Not the ability spam

[pale spindle]

4000 IQ play: Use book tog et behind them and backstba them

😎

[red pollen]

Still to this day only 1 in every 1000 Xbox players have finished dream team

[pale spindle]

What difficulty does it need to be on?

[red pollen]

It was .02% when I got it

Any difficulty I think could even do sedition

[pale spindle]

Wsit

[red pollen]

Flawless execution had to be 15 games no downs on malice +

My 15th game a barrel launched me to a ledge and I was begging them to come get me in voice chat lol

I play way too much Darktide and I’ve gotten to a point I can’t even explain to anyone who doesn’t “get it” why the endgame experience is so good

Some people just need a carrot dangling in front of their face and a voice saying m-m-m-monster kill kill kill!!! To enjoy a game

The only thing that would kill Darktide for me would be removing dedicated servers

[pale spindle]

Isn't that just fanatic Zealot? 😎

[red pollen]

Basically lmao

[red pollen]

Your teammates do it for you

[prisma sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-taste-hahaha-funny-creep-gif-15086659

[red pollen]

I’m at 617300 🫱🏽‍🫲🏼

[jaunty lava]

I'm just at 110k ennemies

[prisma sigil]

I WANT the frame

It looks cool

[austere grail]

How many hours of gameplay is that

[red pollen]

I want it to but also I’ve been farming hab Dreyko for 2 weeks and still need 40 more wins

[jaunty lava]

Around 2500 from my math

[red pollen]

Need the autism mega truck frame from jab dreyko

[austere grail]

Lol

[prisma sigil]

Ooh I got that last year

I spent like, the entire month of november playing Hab Dreyko

I haven't played it since then

[red pollen]

Gotta run it back with the frame on

[prisma sigil]

fr if i queue into hab dreyko i quit immediately

I have the frame already, I got 6 more to go

my next one is raid, 230/250, but im not actively grinding it

i specifically wanted the dreyko one cus it looks cool, now im just playing whatever

[pale spindle]

Ngl tho, hearing the Cadia Vet say: "DON'T STOP BIG MAN" 😩 makes me go:

[red pollen]

Our Psyker’s gone karkin mad… I love it! -loose canon vet

What if the freak is a danger to us?

So many good ones

[prisma sigil]

Best vet voice btw

[prisma sigil]

Best zealot voice btw

Both of mine xD

[red pollen]

PUT THE KARKIN BOOT EEEEIN

[prisma sigil]

IT WAS NO MORE OR NO LESS DEPLORABLE THAN YOU, FREAK

I like the male loose cannon more than the female one

Male one sounds like he drank an entire bottle of bourbon b4 the mission

[red pollen]

Female loose canon has grown on me because of her PUT THE KARKIN BOOT EEEIN

[prisma sigil]

Ye thats also fair

[red pollen]

Love loose cannon but don’t like him being mean to big guy

[prisma sigil]

I hate female agitator zealot

[red pollen]

You’re a canny fellow

[prisma sigil]

I hate that accent

[red pollen]

Me canny, what is canny

[red pollen]

Female agitator and female loose canon both sound like they grew up on a moonshine operation in the Appalachian mountains

[pale spindle]

idk why people say the characters are boring, u know how satisfying it is to hear:

"A GRENADE FOR YEEEE!!!! BOW SIMPLTINS!!!this feels looks bad, feels worse 😔 SNIPER GET DOOOWNNN!!!"

every 3 seconds

[prisma sigil]

ARE WE LOST? NO NOT YOUR WRETCHED SOULS, I MEAN REALLY LOST

[red pollen]

The only voice in the entire game I don’t like is the nerdy female Psyker that I picked who flexes her vocabulary at every opportunity and talks about how her time as an enforcer was her purpose in life

[prisma sigil]

FOR THE LEX ATOMA

I picked the male one

[pale spindle]

but like they say it all on top of each other so it sounds like a concert

[obsidian prairie]

Clasp this ye heathens is one of my favorite lines

[pale spindle]

and Ogryn always is just wholsome while not screaming in the middle for 20 ragers and a spawn picking someone up: I got you boss 😊

[bitter yoke]

Oh wow fatshark is working hard

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon's-dogma-2-dd2-max-griffin-fling-gif-2059266496918877405

[bitter yoke]

We got a screenshot of the update

[distant galleon]

i mean.. he probably did

[pale spindle]

Vet: DON'T STOP BIG MAN 😩
Ogryn: number #1 killing machine, that's me 😊

[coarse birch]

Now i am

[dusky mountain]

what are perks and blessings should i go for in the chainsword

[obtuse stirrup]

Which chainsword

[nimble fiber]

good morning, well rested and ready to explode again?

[austere grail]

I think the cleave blessings are so good at increasing your horde clear you always want one of them

[dusky mountain]

MK IV assault

[coarse birch]

i will do my best to not explode

[nimble fiber]

rampage/shred & flak/unyielding I would say

just tell me when you're ready imma smoke in the meantime

[coarse birch]

i am ready

[nimble fiber]

wanna join a strike team?

[coarse birch]

uh cant atm if you mean VC

sadly

[nimble fiber]

aight bet, already send u a fr in darktide

[coarse birch]

but i will do my best to communicate my current state via blowing up

[red pollen]

Back to that question… just got a nice example of purge the unclean value this auric hab dreyko

[nimble fiber]

u choose what we play, I believe in ya

[coarse birch]

oh ok

[nimble fiber]

btw stay hydrated!

[drifting wolf]

i will stay dehydrated

[coarse dagger]

curse of glued muscle

[red pollen]

Trying really hard to roll a 80 80 80 80 knife with 0% damage

Close close close

[fiery vortex]

Hello! is the "Abhor the mutant" redacted penance bugged? I swear I've done the challenge multiple times But it doesnt seem to count (I charge up heavy attack, dash, and swing in the middle of it and get a kill in the top left on a mutant)

[north sedge]

as far as i know, it works

[hushed knoll]

[north sedge]

you cannot collide with it either

[fiery vortex]

ill just keep trying then :/ , thanks anyway!

[obtuse stirrup]

Does it have a be a clean oneshot maybe?

Perhaps somebody shot it first so it's dirty

[nimble fiber]

wp

also again

3 psykers

[coarse birch]

lol

[nimble fiber]

[coarse birch]

ok this time i didnt kill myself

[nimble fiber]

true

[coarse birch]

obv that was the reason we won

[nimble fiber]

[pale spindle]

The current meta is simple: 4 vets with scream

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk 🚶🏻

[jaunty lava]

What perks do i want on martyr curios?

[north sedge]

the usual, toughness, hp, gunner resist/sniper etc

[jaunty lava]

ok

[pale spindle]

Ability haste

[north sedge]

eh

not really worth much

[red pollen]

60% nurgle damage in a single magazine without fury of the faithful on damnation

Purge the unclean is great along with the ranged damage node attached to it

[red pollen]

Toughness and hp are a waste

Get ability cooldown and stamina and a gunner or two if you need it but you don’t

[north sedge]

No

[pale spindle]

Ability cooldown, stamina regen, and block efficiency

[north sedge]

And you can't get stamina as a perk

[pale spindle]

For perks that is

[north sedge]

God christ no

[pale spindle]

Unless u have a specific build where you need other stats to breakpoint

[north sedge]

Block eff is worthless in this game

[pale spindle]

No

[north sedge]

Stam is slightly less worthless

[pale spindle]

If you don't like block efficiency then get sprint reduction ig

[north sedge]

[pale spindle]

I know this might blow everyone's mind, but maybe being able to run away for a bad situation is better than taking damage

Ur gonna wish u had that block efficiency when 8 Rangers are in you

Block block, dodge wait for regen block again

Nobody goes down everyone OK 👍🏻

[drifting wolf]

embrace the pain

[pale spindle]

I don't know how much toughness u will need, but I would definitely prefer that than getting hit by 8 Rangers and being stunned locked

[north sedge]

Block is worthless because you'll block maybe 8 times a match

[nimble fiber]

ok I think imma take a xv break and go back to crusher

[pale spindle]

I know that loner PUB zealots have a tendency to never block but not all of us are like that 😔

[pale spindle]

Ur not just blocking, you are also doing correct?

While dodging u get ur Stam back

[north sedge]

No rhe game heavily skews towards dodging

[pale spindle]

As your Stam comes back u cna block again

Block effecncy makes your stamina bar not deplete soo quickly which makes you dodge better and run faster

Which then makes your blocking better

Which makes your dosing cooldown refresh

And the cycle continues

You can also push more frequently as well

[red pollen]

How many hours do you have just curious

[pale spindle]

To me anything that reduces the amount of stamina you loose is a no brainer high importance to me

[red pollen]

Also… more purge the unclean dopamine. And I used to think you needed fury of the faithful to make boltgun shine

Tell me that clip doesn’t make you just go 😮‍💨🫦

[pale spindle]

We need space marine class so I can see this every 2 seconds 😔

I understand maybe going gunner perk because as a Zealot u really don't want to be gunned down

[red pollen]

You’ll block 8 times just picking up one teammate

[pale spindle]

But sniper is a waste lmao, u just dodge it

Snipers are not nearly as scary as people think they are

In fact, u can even USE snipers to kill the elites for you since friendly fire works for them

[north sedge]

Over 1000

[red pollen]

Sniper gauntlet is the easiest auric modifier. Just take a pistol and put unarmored on it. The misty modifier seems to always be a lower intensity one by default

[red pollen]

Ok you’re almost at enough hours to realize stamina > anything

[tropic pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/825971027037126728.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[red pollen]

Put block efficiency on a psyker with the peril blocking and things get crazy

[drowsy steppe]

?

[north sedge]

No

All of this is pretty bad advice

[ivory marlin]

i love titanfall 2

good gaME

oops i fat fingered caps lock

[red pollen]

Remember when the titanfall developer kept teasing titanfall 3 then it would always just be more apex shit

Pepperidge farm I mean perellace remembers

[pale spindle]

? 🤔

[drifting wolf]

the only good thing on the apex legend side of that event was revenant singing

[pale spindle]

I think they just go on Games Lantern and copy paste the build from there

[drifting wolf]

oh and the reaper appearing in a short

[pale spindle]

But like look at the top Zealot build on that site:

[spare dome]

took ur book thing and doin this with a catachan sword

rampage is still power, right

game still tryina gaslight me on this shit

[south folio]

blocking is not that important and the game lets you push with minimal stamina anyways

and zealot (and ogryn) in particular maintains 75% of their sprint speed bonus at zero stamina

[pale spindle]

The thing I've always wondered is if momentum is better than piety for book 🤔

IG it's dependant on the weapon

[south folio]

ye

[spare dome]

gotta feel it out

also at some point youre just bein a glutton for crits

[pale spindle]

I'm leaning towards piety just because as a book user you aren't going to be running around too much for the stacks

But being able to attack faster feels soo good 😩

[spare dome]

book is 60s cooldown, three CDR curios brings that to 53~, book buff lasts 10s and it takes 7s~ to cast, but you dont always hold it for the full duration, so we'll say 15s total duration

so 38s

i only need five crits hitting five targets

to get that back

or sure 25 crits but the whole point is the cleave for extra target procs

super easy to maintain uptime

and attack speed means more crits and also more just everything

[pale spindle]

The weapon I found that in very specific situations gets the book cooldown back up extremely quickly is the devils claw

[spare dome]

i still find peity to mostly be a meme lul

[pale spindle]

But that's only when ur light attacking a trash horde

It is very satisfying however when I hit 8 hordes with the claw with 3 light attacks and every one of them crits

And I see my book pop right back up 😩

[nimble fiber]

[ivory marlin]

auto pistol users 😔

[pale spindle]

The problem with blocking is that it's hard to gauge how valuable it is in sceneiors that constantly keep changing.

Block efficiency is good into melee but useless into range, and the opposite is true for sprint effecncy

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-bt-bt-titanfall-titanfall-bt-titan-gif-22263947

[spare dome]

thats why u run both

[sturdy knoll]

if I might ask, why do people not seem to like Rampage that much anymore?

[pale spindle]

I just think that as a zealot, Block efficiency is slightly better because ur usually in melee 🤷🏻

[pale spindle]

I usually run cooldown and stamina regen on the other 2

[north sedge]

Depends on the weapon

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/cold-ones-gif-22110952

[pale spindle]

The hard choice is choosing between SE or BE 😔

[ivory marlin]

you use auto pistol

i dont like you very much for that

[north sedge]

Neither

[sterile stone]

I can't hear you

All the way down there

At the bottom of the scoreboard

[ivory marlin]

1v1 me right now

[sterile stone]

Word

[ivory marlin]

no auto pistol

[pale spindle]

I mean regardless of what u think on the value of those 2, they are 1000 times more valuable than damage reduction to snipers

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-um-hm-adam-workaholics-gif-5161074

[sturdy knoll]

fair enough. like I wouldn't use it on the Dueling Sword since that's almost exclusively single target

[north sedge]

Dmg resist is more valuable generally, with some types being equally as unimportant

[north sedge]

Yea, it's still good on most weapons, only hsword it's fallen out of favor because of of deathblow

[pale spindle]

I OK but what about

[ivory marlin]

you invite me tho cuz idk how to do customes

[south folio]

sure
the average value is not enough for me to ever invest stamina into it

[pale spindle]

Not getting hit

🤯

[sterile stone]

I do not have Teetan Foll Tew on PC

[south folio]

I'd rather stack toughness or health or wounds (martyrdom)

[sturdy knoll]

why though? it provides a bonus to power in general now, not just damage

[ivory marlin]

[sterile stone]

Many moons ago, I was a console gamer

[north sedge]

I agree dodging is much stronger than blocking

[ivory marlin]

same

idk where my xbox is tho

[pale spindle]

Also if it was damage reduction to EVERYTHING then yeah give me that shit

But only to snipers?

[north sedge]

Deathblow is just brutal momentum, so you take a swing at head level and 4 dudes are dead, including many of the elites, which is stronger than rampage

[sterile stone]

Last time I picked up a xborx was to play that free to play shooter

That closed down

I think it was called crossfire

[ivory marlin]

damn

last time i played my xbox

was uhhhhhh

cyberpunk dlc

[sterile stone]

You know, I understand the need for singleplayer games

But I really can't wait for the supposed cyberpunk MP game

I wanna walk around with a 4 man squad of Adam Smashers

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-david-martinez-adam-smasher-sandevistan-david-cyberpunk-gif-26854689

[north sedge]

1 sniper is fine, anything past that is overkill, but i would gladly take it over block eff and stam regen. You don't block enough for either to really matter. Especially since base stam regen is pretty fast baseline

[sturdy knoll]

only a 15% bonus and only to headshots though.

[north sedge]

It's not about the bonus dmg, it's that you're doing first target dmg to 4 enemies

[south folio]

being able to kill 4 (well, 5 on hsword) bruisers in a swing is nice

[pale spindle]

No

[south folio]

and you annihilate dreg ragers with it

[north sedge]

Yes

[sturdy knoll]

never seems to work on the combat axe I use.

[north sedge]

🤔

What axe what build

[south folio]

are you running headtaker or deci as the other blessing to hit the one-shot BPs?

[north sedge]

Yea

What arco said

[south folio]

I'd be surprised that you're not hitting the one-shot unless you're not stacking enough damage

[sturdy knoll]

it usually gets stuck in the head of the next guy. Almost always at full stacks of Headtaker.

[north sedge]

🤔

[sturdy knoll]

I've also got +flak and maniac

[north sedge]

What build

[sturdy knoll]

for the weapon or the character?

[north sedge]

Character

[maiden path]

crab legs are so fucking obscenely difficult to eat

why dont they come pre-cracked

i dont want to keep fucking cracking this things legs like a peanut

eating crabs is fucked up

[sturdy knoll]

how would I go about sharing that? just take a screenshot or some other method?

[north sedge]

Yea or make it on gameslantern

[sturdy knoll]

ooh, good idea

gimme a minute to do that

[pale spindle]

The flavor is stored from the shell 😩

If you break the crab too early all of the juices will disappear

[maiden path]

yea i can give up a little flavor if i dont have to crack this roach's shell open like a gorrila

[pale spindle]

It's also not that hard to crack open crabs of you know what you are doing

[maiden path]

i feel fucked up cracking this things knuckles

[red pollen]

Block efficiency active 100% of the time, stamina regen active only when you’re not using stamina anyway, though I think stamina regen is better, why not use both with ability cooldown? Every single other curio perk is a skill issue helper

[maiden path]

ok i didnt have a fucking nut cracker for the big claw

[pale spindle]

Since the crab is already cooked, the flesh is no longer attached to the shell

[maiden path]

so i had to use whats left of my molars to open it

[pale spindle]

It's MUCH harder to open a shell raw

Or opening a lobster for example

[maiden path]

yea well i dont think u should be cracking it open raw

das fucked up

i understand why vegans feel so strongly about animal rights now

i got too intimate with the crab legs

[south folio]

so sad that I have the skill issue of being poor

[pale spindle]

What we do to crabs is nothing compared to what we do to chickens, Pigs, and cows

[maiden path]

i like looking at crabs more then a chicken

[pale spindle]

💀 That shit is literally eldritch horror shit

[maiden path]

i dont have to crack the chickens arm open and peel its meat out like a banana

i must repent to crab god i think

[pale spindle]

The crab is already dead, but I usually clean out my own chickens so I feel like it's the same

I'm just sad about what happens to them when they are alive

I generally don't like eating crab tho for one specific reason

It's way too expensive

☠️

[maiden path]

i have to build shelters for crabs

off the coast of zanzibar

[pale spindle]

You means traps?

[sturdy knoll]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb0ca68-0d88-4470-9f85-0b775d96a1da/uhhh-idk-lol

@north sedge

[ivory marlin]

i forget how good of a color orange is

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5VJnxDLaZY

shelter

[stone fern]

ok this is fucked up who keeps voting the bullshit builds i keep uploading

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb04150-5d3d-405d-aad9-fe32fd6e691c/holy-man

[ivory marlin]

the drip

[pale spindle]

That's nothing, watch this:

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[maiden path]

stim users....

try something cool like GRAPPLE...

i need 2 get titanfall 2 on pc

[stone fern]

pff you're clearly not man enough to go +2 stamina and all or nothing on an axe

[maiden path]

only played it on ps4 and was damn alright at it...........

[sturdy knoll]

T H I C C 🥴

[maiden path]

being able 2 send urself fucking flying into the enemys spawn in like 3 seconds with grapple was great

[ivory marlin]

Shhhh

[pale spindle]

Dam Tru 😔

[ivory marlin]

Ty ty

[ivory marlin]

Yeah but that’s boring

Id rather be a drug addicted robot

[maiden path]

stim sucks........

i can get stim speed with one use of grapple.......

[ivory marlin]

Nuh uh

[maiden path]

does stim speed up your regen

[ivory marlin]

At least im not q decoy

[maiden path]

all i used it for was speed

[ivory marlin]

Yes

[maiden path]

wtf does that mean...

[ivory marlin]

Decoy user

[maiden path]

stim even moer useless when everyone uses that bigass sniper rifle 1 hit

i nevr use decoy

i think i used tickmines

[ivory marlin]

I also use ticks

Stims ticks car firestar

And tone

[ivory marlin]

I don’t see many krabers anymore

[maiden path]

need 2 find old grapple montage that made me play it

[ivory marlin]

Mostly people use l-star or car

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1wxlAp2Hs

ok its not this

but this fucks

[ivory marlin]

Tone drip

This the nose art

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz5th3ykihY

AOUGH

I FOUND IT

this video is why I used grapple

someone buy me titanfall 2

what was urs uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the speedrun course

i think i got 23-25 seconds with all targets

like 19 with none

TITANFALL 2 IS 30 DOLLARS

WTF

[north sedge]

i would do something more like this, still you shouldnt be having issues hitting a one shot bp with axe, this makes it more consistent though, also flipped some nodes to stronger options. the toughness talent at the bottom is pretty bad, the other one is much stronger and will keep you at high stacks easily. second wind is better toughness regen by far. also the toughness regen on your curios, this only affects coherency regen which shuts off in melee, not the greatest pick

titanfall 2 is on sale like, all the time

[maiden path]

i wish money wasnt real so i could buy any game i wanted

[ivory marlin]

Depends on how much money i get once im paid

[maiden path]

if u do i'll do wahtevr u want....................

[ivory marlin]

Main stim

[coarse birch]

Ggs @nimble fiber

[ivory marlin]

And tone

[maiden path]

fine................

ive used stim

i liked it

but liked grapple more

[north sedge]

you can run hp curios, but as addendum 3toughness or 2 toughness 1 hp is the stronger option generally