zealot-class

[ornate bone]

real and true bestie

[maiden path]

harodl located

[sterile stone]

He looks like a closed turkey sandwich

But he is still hide the pain harold

[misty mason]

It looks like he's been told something he's supposed to be happy about, but is just going to cause him more work

[neat hound]

what counts as an elite?

[misty mason]

Gunners shotgunners crushers maulers bulwarks reapers and ragers

I think

[polar nexus]

yep

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[wind jackal]

Come on, don't brick this beauty

[zinc talon]

[sterile stone]

The boy has been deployed

[zinc talon]

tachyon nets, phase through all physical matter until they hit just you and only you ever that's what it was made for

[wind jackal]

Damn it, I'm a few plasteel short.

[sterile stone]

The story of every Darktide player ever

[zinc talon]

until they don't

but still f you anyway

[ember yew]

where's casino result

[ember yew]

That stun grenade could be a little sooner

[wind jackal]

Just had to do a quick mission lol

....At least I have unyelding.

[ember yew]

shred is good too

Rev it Up -> Rampage (some perverts love to use Perfect Strike)

Stamina -> Flak

You could try crit build and perfect strike, maybe you will like it

If not, just swap to Rampage later

[wind jackal]

Ah fair. Truthfully, I was thinking the eviscerator had thrust, but that's my monkey brain coming off the chain axe lol

[ember yew]

yeah, thrust is on chaxes and hammers

[wind jackal]

But yeah good to know this roll is salvageable at least.

[ember yew]

its fine, it's pretty close to the best possible stuff

maniacs wont matter much, since you are oneshotting mutants with special

and for ragers you can use ranged weapon

carapace wont matter if you dont use BT blessing (which allows consecutive 100% critical special attacks)

unyelding will give a boss damage boost (at least), since you will be oneshotting reapers and bulwarks with special anyway

[wind jackal]

Gotcha. It feels really good, not gonna lie.

[sterile stone]

This is fine

[sterile basalt]

What about momentum

[ember yew]

Not on that one

[sterile basalt]

I mean momentum over rampage

[ember yew]

i dont like the idea and technically with either rampage or perfect strike you also get toughness via faster passive cooldown reset (due to more cleave), for more F spam

[sterile basalt]

But mk15 evicerator is capped at 4 targets for light atks

[ember yew]

damage is capped, cooldown reset is not capped

you can get like a full F reset in 2 swings

[sterile basalt]

That’s if I run shred + piety + scourge?

Or just shred + piety

[ember yew]

scourge is a no brain pick here, so those 3

[sterile basalt]

Right

What if I want to play martyrdom with evicerator

Is that a bad idea or

[ember yew]

should work just like that, some people play it for higher atkspd

[steep hound]

What you bros think

[sterile basalt]

Smth like this then?

[sterile basalt]

Ruthless -> uncanny
Sprint eff -> dmg perk prob

Idk which dmg perk for zealot but pick smth +dmg

[steep hound]

Thx. This is a melk pick so probably just pass

[steep hound]

martyrdom evisc with shred and perfect strike is pretty fun

[zinc talon]

]

[sterile basalt]

Idk abt perfect strike tho

If there’s nothing that can bypass the 4 target dmg limit +cleave stuff just don’t seem all that great to me

[ember yew]

The main reason i dont like martyrdom is that is too much point consuming and you still need other stuff. If you use this build, without Second Wind and TWBS, charging into shotgunners/gunners could cost you if you make a mistake.

The only one build i remotely like is something like this:

I cant give up anoint in blood

and sustained assault is the sacrifice im willing to make

[polar nexus]

and combat axe, yes...

[ember yew]

pervert

[sterile basalt]

Yea I played martyrdom with Rashad & heavy sword but I wanted smth to have crit blessing to get some value out of crit CDR

[polar nexus]

🍑

[ember yew]

I never felt rashad in martyrdom, because you oneshot stuff with Momentum tree and it also has much more benefits to it, like better dodge and stuff

[sterile basalt]

My roll isn’t good enough to hit breakpoints with momentum build

[ember yew]

lets hope for fartshart promised crafting rework

even if they just make it so you can reroll 3 things now

[sterile basalt]

AFAIK zealot needs pretty insane rolls (even more than veteran) if using momentum for breakpoints

[ember yew]

the most interesting part is that

i think if i get 79-80 in damage/penetration and First target

maybe BM 4 too, i can drop Unarmoured damage

but all of that is wishful thinking

[sterile basalt]

Yea that is an insane roll

I don’t have that

I do have a 3/4 perfect HS6

Got DB4 and HT4

[ember yew]

this was one of the first weapons i got lucky when i started playing the game

the memories

[sterile basalt]

Maniac isn’t that important for HS iirc

Also is it better to go momentum or martyrdom for HS

[ember yew]

i usually just swipe the zercs together with trash with heavy attacks

it works

[sterile basalt]

Oh wait nvm that’s Mk9

[ember yew]

yeah not 6

[sterile basalt]

Then yea maniac prob does smth

6 I just spam heavy on ragers

1 shots all Dreg ragers

[ember yew]

9 give you a choice of either strikedown

or sweeping

[sterile basalt]

The sweep can’t 1 shot both bruisers tho

[ember yew]

and as a compensation for balance 9 got worse normal attacks

so i pretty much never use them

melks selling blessings today

also

[left iron]

Mk9 HS has the best light attack spam out of them all

[ember yew]

has tarded synergy with heavy spam

[ember yew]

well, for me 6 lights felt better

[left iron]

Well they can feel better, but numerically 9 has the best. It has a standard 8 cleave on all of them, with uniform damage between all of them. HS 6 light 1 and 2 deal less damage and cleave less than light 3 and 4

[ember yew]

Anyway, Vicious Offering is also the main reason i run heavies only on mk9

per swing you can get so much toughness back

like you are running momentum (wep) blessing

[polar nexus]

i have a 80/80/80/80 rasha on my zealot

with bm4

[ember yew]

you go and test it then

[polar nexus]

already did that

so with no momentum stacks, martyr stacks... flak4 and unarmored4 is not enough to os both bruisers

you really need to be a vet

(and i have bm4 too)

but once you get stacks, well yeah, heads starts rolling

and at that point headtaker is more useful against big stuffs...

[ember yew]

technically you are always at 10 momentum stacks in worst situation (by just moving) and headtaker stacks fast

if you can get oneshot with that without Unarmoured

i will probably go with that

[polar nexus]

yeah, i put maniac instead of unarmored, because i use that caxe in a momentum build

maybe i should use elite or unyielding tbh

[ember yew]

i would go with unyelding

maniac is nice, but rashad already obliterate maniacs

i dont miss it atm

[polar nexus]

yeah

and already kill them with knives / bolter / autogun

this chops head too

[ember yew]

shred feels like a waste tbh

unless they nerf rashad so much you are gonna require crits to reach oneshots

can imagine how much overkill damage it do

[polar nexus]

well the caxe had good modifiers and was sold by the shop

i wanted to try a shred rashad so here we are

in a bp build, i crit enough to proce dr and get cdr

and i crit a lot

[ember yew]

i went to check how much weapon i got ready for crafting rework

rn i have around 110+ melee weps and 130+ ranged weps

ready to roll when they change the system

[polar nexus]

and in a momentum build it gives me crit dr too

i already use shred taxes, so i was like, let's try the heavy version

i topped melee dmg on the runs i did with so, it worked

[ember yew]

lets be honest

most people here can top dmg with any wep

when you look at the usual PUG player quality

in auric damnation+

[polar nexus]

well, it depends, i am fairly balanced as a zealot

i often top ranged and boss dmg

unless there's a psyker or plasma vet

and i am usually second

[ember yew]

plasma vet usually bet me in ranged damage

but it we talk about balance

it usually goes like this

last person ragequit for w/e reason

im still in process of making top zarona

[polar nexus]

god

[ember yew]

but i guess il wait for crafting rework

[polar nexus]

maybe the pool in oceania is way better

but usually in auric, we're not a big group and it's pretty even

[ember yew]

asia is probably much better than europe

for obvious reasons

[polar nexus]

i play with people from Australia and NZ

but it's a close group and you see the same people doing auric rn

so we tend to be between 300k and 500k each

[ember yew]

its not ALWAYS that bad

but most of the time

it's people within 300k range

honestly i have no problem carrying stuff so its not a dealbreaker to me

[polar nexus]

most of the time i am around 400k, i am not the most agressive player.. and i go loot plasteel 😄

[ember yew]

im probably the most agressive player you've ever seen

its kill or be killed

[polar nexus]

highest i have done is with my ogryn lol it's >700k 😄

[ember yew]

highest was 1.3 or 1.4 mil, but it's one of those stupid games where i was solo rescuing 3 people twice

where one mistake could end the run and high damage due to solo standing

[polar nexus]

those are the best runs

[ember yew]

in that time i really appreciate having flame grenades

[polar nexus]

ending in trap or with a dog most of the time

[ember yew]

instead of knifes

[polar nexus]

i do agree, that against 2 bullwarks with no ammo, knives are not helpful

[ember yew]

flame grenades let me ignore bulwarks and trash mobs and fight zerks and crushers

[polar nexus]

and so ended my 15 minutes solo clutch in hab dreyko after killing 10 snipers and a milion elites

T_T

[polar nexus]

i like seeing a martyr build with no bleed of the emperor

[ember yew]

i just want the stats

[sterile basalt]

Martyr HS is nice tho

[polar nexus]

never tried it

i did crusher, chaxe, taxe and claw... so not a lot

it's too fucking costly

[sterile basalt]

Is martyr crusher good

[polar nexus]

well, i would say it's overkill

[ember yew]

and a bleed build will make it impossible to use TWBS

[sterile basalt]

What keystone is crusher supposed to be good with

[polar nexus]

i use it with momentum

[ember yew]

as i said previously, even after gunners nerfs, TWBS feels essential to me

[sterile basalt]

I didn’t play crit CDR with martyr HS

[ember yew]

check the pinned guide

[sterile basalt]

I was using this with HS6

[ember yew]

ah sorry that was the answer for

@polar nexus

wrong quote

[polar nexus]

i play caxe, crusher, knife, claw,taxe with momentum and claw, hsword, evis with bp

[polar nexus]

i would take the 2 points used for soc and put them in duellist + anointed

because duellist works with range too

or maybe get the momentum cdr... maybe

[ember yew]

and anointed is an insane boost, especially for something like Braced that you use in melee

base damage is base damage

other than that - great build

i cant just live without anointed these days

feels like my gun is peashooter

[polar nexus]

well that's how you are used to some bp

it's harder to play revolver on another class than vet for me now

because with marksman focus everything is like a one shot and crushers are 2 shots

[ember yew]

there was a guy that an absolute religious adept (understandable) of Revolver mk2 on Zealot in this chat yesterday, but it's still proves the point that Zarona is top class weapon

it could be that they plan more nerfs for it

but aside from nerfing cleave

idk what they would/can do

they wouldn't nerf handcannon 150 times in a row

[polar nexus]

they gutted pf and the autopistol

nothing is safe

[zealous basin]

god im so BORED

actually thats not true im not bored im just socially starved

give me attention

[polar nexus]

drink

[zealous basin]

cmon theres more to me than that

[frozen glen]

ghosting

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lies-liar-bullshit-so-that-was-gif-15334130

[zealous basin]

just because its my 2nd most important personality characteristic doesnt mean its everything...

i'm a very talented musician!

[sterile stone]

What do you play hmmm

[frozen glen]

women

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/laughs-laughing-funny-gif-11996770

[sterile basalt]

I had a braced autogun so didn’t feel like duellist was helping much
Also not a fan of inconsistent breakpoints (I play veteran)

[zealous basin]

nice

i play keyboard and sing and produce :)

learning guitar :)

[polar nexus]

Fair enough but I helps your HS too. You could also take anointed and purge

Or good balance

[sterile basalt]

I think duellist only helps with scab rager 1HS on my HS6

And that’s if martyr + sustained assault combining into +65% dmg somehow doesn’t send it over to 1 shot without duellist

[polar nexus]

I wish I could know how much duellist has proced in a run

[sterile basalt]

I’m not a fan of dodge blessings/talents in general
Only exception is prob second wind (cuz I actually do feel the benefits of it)

Veteran has reciprocity and that’s actually the most well-hidden trap pick in the entire tree

[polar nexus]

Wdym?

[sterile basalt]

Reciprocity is not good for most weapons

For knife & tac axe, it’s good

For basically everything else, it’s minuscule

[polar nexus]

And claw

[sterile basalt]

Not really because u’d parry more than u dodge normally

[polar nexus]

Well no

[sterile basalt]

And also because reciprocity is directly competing with CQKZ if you’re pathing to desperado

[polar nexus]

If you parry everything your parry will be eaten by something you don't want

So you have to find a good balance between the parries and the dodges

[sterile basalt]

This is true but there’re 2 more things to consider,
1 being that veteran generally doesn’t have the best use case for a shred DC sword (at least compared to zealot)
And 2 is that for the situations where getting ur parry eaten is truly dangerous, you probably shouldn’t be fighting it head on with a DC in the first place (you’d dodge back at first opportunity to keep some distance)

And also CQKZ kind of just does things better for u

It’s hard to debate with 15% close dmg (15% melee dmg, 15% close ranged dmg)

[polar nexus]

1 I am more of a skullcrusher rampage kind of guy on the vet. But that's mostly because I don't play right keystone that much

[sterile basalt]

Skullcrusher + rampage is based yes

I wanted to play it but hadron decided shred is what I’ll have

All that considered, reciprocity is generally not that great

[polar nexus]

I mean it's better on the weapons that can benefit the most

[sterile basalt]

Yea knife & tac axe

Those are 2 I consider reciprocity to be at least on equal footing with CQKZ

[polar nexus]

Keystoneless vet my beloved

[sterile basalt]

I play middle keystone because free +15.5% dmg is nice

[zealous basin]

u guys play darktide?

[boreal cedar]

the game is pretty cool

[still quartz]

I thought this was the Helldivers 2 chat

[drifting wolf]

always was

what even is a darktide

[median steeple]

The tide is dark

[polar nexus]

I would go unyielding instead of Crit chance tbh

Or maybe you're using a BP build?

[zinc talon]

something something sex joke

[ember yew]

🍆

[polar nexus]

🍑

👅

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/birds-kiss-gif-13863382

[ember yew]

dang that looks like a new alien horror movie

[placid fiber]

It legit does

[zealous basin]

no its backpack battles general

im winning

i won

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile I am not in Gungeon, as the Robot. Apparently not having hearts is tougher on me than the bonus damage from junk is boosting me x.x

For every piece of junk you have you get 5% more damage, as the robot x.x

[zealous basin]

i have no idea whats going on here man im just fuckin blasting

[placid fiber]

Same here, in Gungeon. >.>'

I got the item that makes you shoot 3x as many bullets that deal 55% of their original damage x.x

[oak ermine]

Why is there a happy frog cauldron in your inventory

Also

[zealous basin]

cuz im cooking

[oak ermine]

Watch out, the spoon is about to fall out

[polar nexus]

The fall continues.

[sterile stone]

The context behind this must be something else

[polar nexus]

Or just something.

The comments are...

[frank night]

The spray paint entering his bloodstream

[polar nexus]

He'll probably pull a: jk I am an autistic loser with mental deficiencies

[sterile stone]

I mean people do it here all the time

But word it in a more subtle way when they get backlash

[polar nexus]

I hate that

The oohhh I am special I have problem so that's an excuse for me to be an asshole

[muted jay]

Sounds gay

[zealous basin]

ME

[ornate bone]

chainaxe? thoughs, opinions?

[zealous basin]

only for based chad gamers

and only the og one

new one is for virgin weirdos

they hated me cuz i spoke true

[polar nexus]

Good. Og headtaker slaughterer and nuchaxe is more headtaker/slaughterer + thrust

You don't need maniac, flak, unyielding elite and carapace will do the job

(you don't need maniac if you rev)

[drowsy steppe]

oh my lawd

[ornate bone]

it's more like going toward high value targets than clearing hordes, may need support from a columns imo

yeah but it wreaks maulers and crushers

[frosty herald]

He absolutely cannot take criticism lmao

Hell go into a babyrage fit

[ember yew]

is that the guy who makes strange guides?

[frosty herald]

Idunno

All i know is that he thinks hes the best darktide player and everyone else is a moron

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/you-rang-hair-flip-gif-23749235

lol how. the hell. was that not me

I didn't even SEE it the first pass

[calm salmon]

I don't think this is good even with context

[ember yew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1bn5kwg/why_does_this_game_have_such_a_low_playerbase/

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-what-lost-what-hurley-hugo-what-gif-15631439

[pallid hemlock]

TL is what happens when you try and build a character who's good at videogames but without any points in anything remotely related to socialization or empathy

[polar nexus]

He did use the word ''ebonics'' once. I am not an American but I assume that's very very loaded from an ideological standpoint

[pallid hemlock]

yeah started out as an earnest academic term, quickly co-opted by stormfront types

[zinc talon]

yep, it's still used in academic circles

being replaced by AAVE, African American Vernacular English I think

[pallid hemlock]

was under the impression AAE/AAVE was more - never mind

[zinc talon]

heh

it's a bit like the r word, in a sense

[pallid hemlock]

this sort of shit always makes a literature search annoying as hell

[zinc talon]

and people do THIS^

[pallid hemlock]

other words in the same category include queer and s lut

[zinc talon]

it's in the DSM6 as a medical code and Grays as a disease/disorder

but people have just gone weird about that word

the doctor treating your kid is gonna call it that, cuz that's the medical name for it

anyway, old man yells at cloud

[pallid hemlock]

tbf the overwhelming majority of the time it's used as a synonym for fuckwit colloquially

[zinc talon]

yip

and it's bad, in the same sense as gay is synonymous with the lesser

that was just what I said growing up

you got grounded? that's gay

it needed to change

but I guess getting my doctorate and seeing the inside and outside of it

people have lost their minds about the actual word

[obtuse stirrup]

Queer at least reclaimed

[pallid hemlock]

I'm generally sympathetic to people trying to change these things in good faith

it's just that there are some very cutthroat communities where even a history of getting it right will get you dogpiled for one misstep

shit's exhausting and it's why outreach isn't happening

[zinc talon]

I never really heard queer growing up except

[obtuse stirrup]

Some people I think have issues with trauma

[zinc talon]

nothin comes from texas except steers and queers and I don't see no horns on you boah

[obtuse stirrup]

And other people have personality disorders who use the movement as a way to get to throw some hate around

[zinc talon]

oh for sure

the hiding behind a disorder they haven't been diagnosed with yall touched on earlier as well

[obtuse stirrup]

Plus there's an element of insular groups growing more extreme over time

[zinc talon]

reminds me of

[obtuse stirrup]

For what it's worth I'm autistic and bi with some gender stuff too

But a lot of the most vocal people in certain communities are just looking for excuses to sling hate

Just like the holy rollers do

[zinc talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7XqCJ9cjc

I really wonder how family guy's gonna go as it ages

[obtuse stirrup]

I actually kinda like the recent stuff

[zinc talon]

thankfully the worst of the 'outrage' and cancelling is over and people have finally come round to doing it when needed

but some blue hair's gonna find this and then the entire arc of like twenty fkn years is up for discussion to toss on the bonfire or not

[zinc talon]

if I'd been born later, I prolly woulda landed on the spectrum somewhere

it was just ADD/ADHD and ritalin or prozac were your choices

[obtuse stirrup]

I think that's true of a lot more people than society realises

[zinc talon]

yep

everyone's got a touch of the tism

[obtuse stirrup]

I'm actually glad I only got diagnosed when I was older

Eh, idk about everybody

Traits maybe

[zinc talon]

tendencies

[obtuse stirrup]

I would say it's a large minority

[zinc talon]

no doubt

I was diagnosed with dysgraphia in kindergarten/elementary

it's like dyslexia I spose but instead, it's the inability to make your hand write words even though they're formed perfectly in your head

so that took center stage in the what's wrong with okri nightly discussion

[obtuse stirrup]

All the dys stuff is associated with the ASD/ADHD umbrella too

Lexia, calcula, praxia

[zinc talon]

it was hand in glove at that time yeah

[obtuse stirrup]

I hadn't heard of dysgraphia but not surprised

[zinc talon]

that's what led me to being diagnosed ADD and put on SSRIs and whatever ritalin/prozac were

[ornate bone]

so Darktide ingame: ppl talking shit when they are shit

[zinc talon]

heh spend all the time getting rescued to mouthe off at you and your squaddies

[obtuse stirrup]

Actually they would be great names for a villain's subboss squad

[zinc talon]

if it's particularly toxic I'll run up to em, and then not get em up

and they'll port to the next spot

and I'll do it again

and they'll port

[obtuse stirrup]

Lexia, Calcula, Graphia, Praxia, get them!

[zinc talon]

sound like a bad bikini volleyball anime team

[polar nexus]

interestingly i discovered that the r word was a thing with the ltt blunder video wan show

is it something recent?

[ornate bone]

it's ok being toxic if u are good, imo....it's not ok when you pointing out they are doing stupid shit and being annoying and thay tells you are bad when: a) u solo killed all the bosses in the lobby b) u solo hold hordes so that the team can focus elsewhere (and the re-tard in question doesn't do his job taking out elites) c) u take down the elites others are supposed to do....basically u play the game in duo with an ogryn, ends up top-board...and yes i'm the one bad that need to learn the game....man

[zinc talon]

I'm not sure what what show is so I couldn't tell you

when I subscribed to youtube finally, I found their full length movie library first thing

so I haven't been watching shows like at all at all

[ornate bone]

just a bad psyker in the team who was angry cuz i stole all his kills

[obtuse stirrup]

I mean it's not OK to be toxic at all really, although I personally don't always live up to that

[zinc talon]

I've had really reallly good luck with my matchmaking I spose

[obtuse stirrup]

People never play better after you berate them

[zinc talon]

I had one guy just immediately out the gate start shitting on me cuz I was wearing a commissary? hat?

'you're the problem with darktide'

[zealous basin]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO

anyways time to play more backpack battles

[zinc talon]

^I know that duo feel doe

float like a gutterpie, sting like a tree

you'll understand what that means when you're older, son

(I still don't please tell me if you learn)

that silent mutant bucking his audio lines out of order tho

[ornate bone]

i'm not lucky at all....no issues

[zinc talon]

prolly took a handful of my beard with him that was so close

[ember yew]

I read some posts that people been shitting on other people who wear premium cosmetics, yet i never saw that one personally in game.

[pallid hemlock]

high skill and toxicity are unrelated IME, I'm not any more tolerant of toxicity because the person is good

[zinc talon]

heh I was flabbergasted

we're not even out the loadin lobby

nobody's started shooting yet

and this guy's just full of sunshine and rainbows about me and me alone

[ember yew]

YOUR OGRYN IS UGLY

[pallid hemlock]

I do get riled up when someone's bad and toxic

[ember yew]

ESPECIALLY YOUR HAT

[zinc talon]

halfway through the mission he 'got a call from his friends they're starting a mission' and left

real my girlfriend goes to another school energy

I hope that was the guilt

[coarse dagger]

I just start being really gay and flamboyant or act like a momdad towards them

[pallid hemlock]

if there's one generalization that has held true for pretty much every internet gremlin, they're all fucking terrible at taking an L with grace

[coarse dagger]

You can shut many people up by being fruity and kind to them

[pallid hemlock]

too much thinking and not enough doing

[zealous basin]

im gay and ur pretty

[ember yew]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/c3/88/70c38816de324d5b1def3b73f41561f9.jpg

[stone fern]

strange thing for a dead man to say

[coarse dagger]

"Hey darling, is everything okay at home? 💅 "

[pallid hemlock]

if I'm taking the time to reply to someone being toxic I want to live rent free in their heads for years

"you play like your nipples are too low"

[coarse dagger]

It usually hits hard to not feed into it directly, so being indirect like that works too

[stone fern]

tfw you play gay chicken with someone and you end up married for 10 years

[coarse dagger]

I'm aromantic no need to worry on my end LMAO

[pallid hemlock]

dude looking in the mirror after a shower a year on:

[zinc talon]

"every time I come home you got the washing machine up on HIGH I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE WOMAN"

and /votekick

[coarse dagger]

Other methods I've listed before

• reply to everything with just "googoo gaga", and they get even angrier
• "you want me so bad it makes you look stupid/foolish"
• "do you want a kiss or something"

[pallid hemlock]

"bro I'm not doing shit about this UST on your end"

same genre as that second quip heh

[ember yew]

or you can just block

[zinc talon]

stuff like this is the reason I don't run into antisocial behavior I think

[pallid hemlock]

thankfully the oceania crowd has been relatively chill, most memorable incident was when someone tried to direct the entire party for an assassination mission

and the other dudes arced up and kept telling him to stfu

[pallid hemlock]

yeah defs sets the mood

[zinc talon]

only tell this joke if you know for certain there are two elevator

before the end

because

[pallid hemlock]

FS keeps breaking the blocking interface intermittently

[zinc talon]

they're terrible, and poorly told

adds to the team's risk

[pallid hemlock]

what do you call a grox with no meat on it

offal

[zinc talon]

but if the toxics think I'm an idiot

they don't rise to the challenge of proving it, they just smirk and put their greasy hair behind their ears

where do you find a grox with no legs

back where you left it

[pallid hemlock]

grox are ornery mfs

wouldn't put it past them to try and do something even with no legs

but yeah wouldn't get too far heh

[zinc talon]

heh I was unaware they were actually like, given form

just another rekaf or loh stick or something

I assume cow, but grimdark

tear you in half except when the author's writing your arc

[pallid hemlock]

they're angry crocs that produce wagyu beef

[zinc talon]

crocs, would never have

[pallid hemlock]

they're lobotomised across the board because that's the only way to cull aggression and territorial instincts

and even then

[zinc talon]

gawd I love this gun

[placid fiber]

Oh boy... I'm now going to try the Robot's past boss in Enter the Gungeon.

This one I am sure is gonna kick my ass x.x

[zinc talon]

that game has some pretty good legs on it, huh

never tried it but it just won't go away

[placid fiber]

I mean it's a top down bullet hell rogue lite

[zinc talon]

yeah, I know nothing

[placid fiber]

and top-down bullet hell games are one of the worst games I am good at

[zinc talon]

just see the title in articles and on the steam store

[placid fiber]

erm games that I am worst at

[zinc talon]

either

lol

[placid fiber]

and I've already beaten 2 past bosses, despite my skissue

If I can succeed then someone who doesn't have the same vision problems as me definitely can x.x

I get hit all the time and I never even saw what hit me x.x

My stupid eyes just don't see things, sometimes. That's what makes this type of game so difficult for me

[pallid hemlock]

this is me with vampire survivors type games

[placid fiber]

And being a panic gamer ain't helping me any in gungeon lol

Welp, time to die to the last human

o7

Damn I got her down to 25% hp

[placid fiber]

Correction: I forgot I beat the Convict's as well so I've done 3 of them. :3

[inner cargo]

Hello zealot chatters, I know y'all talk about HD2 frequently so I've come to share the fact that I somehow pulled off a clutch on bot planet trying to extracts the whole squad

Autocannon made my day

[frosty herald]

autocannon is hella goated

[fading vale]

it do feel nice

I get upset at myself when I miss the hulk eyes like 5 times

but really if you just crouch while it walks menacingly towards you it's pretty easy

until you get nailed by a rocket of course

[quaint verge]

Or jetpacking suicide bomber

[inner cargo]

Nothing kills me more than a good old bot suicide bomber

[frosty herald]

you could also just walk around the hulk or tank

tanks are especially easy

[inner cargo]

Walking around tanks sure

Walking around hulks

[stone fern]

no deaths really is hell worst contract

[ember yew]

16 tomes/grimms is the worst one

unless you run it with someone together

otherwise you are in a world of pain with 1 scripture or grimoire per match (assuming you carry it yourself)

not to mention how shet grimoires are here

• any picked grimoire will piss off randoms

[stone fern]

man if you wanna do grims at damnation with a psyker/vet on the team you're kind of an ahole

other than that i dont really care about grims

but hell even 8 missions is bad because all of sedation is speed running

any lower level players get flamed or vote kicked just for trying to learn the game

[burnt ivy]

Hi all! I haven't played for a couple of months. Have a question. I know they nerfed the flamer, but I survive maelstrom(no player deaths) running with one and die more when I don't?

And what are all the Helldivers doing in here?

[worldly nebula]

And of course if lower level characters join Malice or higher, everyone looks at them with side-eye at least

[worldly nebula]

If you can win with an off meta weapon, what’s the problem?

[oak ermine]

I’m not sure I will get this right, but Flamer is perfectly viable on any difficulty level, be it Auric+ or not

It may leave a bad impression initially because of how dependant on certain weapon modifiers it is

[worldly nebula]

Laughing at fascism like the rest of us 40k nerds

[burnt ivy]

Just wondering if they only nerfed the score

[oak ermine]

The score?

[burnt ivy]

My score is super low, when running with a flamer(about 1/3 of other loadouts)

End of match scores

[worldly nebula]

“Doctor it hurts when I look at the scoreboard”
“Well, just stop doing that.”

[oak ermine]

I don’t think that’s an issue with the flamer, though, but that also largely depends on what you have been doing throughout the entire run

[burnt ivy]

I just support the team

[worldly nebula]

Yer a good’un

[burnt ivy]

flame crowds stun big uns

[oak ermine]

That doesn’t tell much. What are the areas you feel like you’re lacking in? What class ability are you using with the flamer?

[burnt ivy]

Range hurts of course

[worldly nebula]

Git gud with throwing knives, and keep your vet clear so he can shoot the ranged threats

[burnt ivy]

Get a vet that will shoot them, check

[ember yew]

Dont look at the score, look at the numbers themselves

so you can get a picture of overall perfomance

[worldly nebula]

And keep the vet clear so he doesn’t pull out his compensatory power sword

[burnt ivy]

Knives I just started playing with

[vast basin]

You can use knives to cancel the pull out time of your flamer

[burnt ivy]

Guess I have to remember to check the support numbers, instead of (tot kills etc.)

[burnt ivy]

That will be helpful

[oak ermine]

“Support numbers” will not tell you how good your build is, no matter what its designated purpose is

[vast basin]

Works with the boltgun too, or anything with a particularly long swap time

[oak ermine]

Unless you, IDK, gain satisfaction from reading vaguely relevant numbers like “enemies staggered”

[burnt ivy]

My current purpose is see what burns best

[worldly nebula]

Emperor of Mankind: “Are ya winning son?”

[burnt ivy]

Using fan the flames and overpressure

[worldly nebula]

Keep the faith

[vast basin]

Oof swap those blessings asap

[ember yew]

I mean damage numbers, boss damage, elite kills, etc
For example, if you did like lets say 500k ranged damage (we are talking about flamer), but didnt kill much elites, either that damage went against normal mobs or someone was just last hitting elites (happens all the time with vets and psykers).
There's more to that, but i'm lazy

[fossil crag]

I can confirm, sometimes i get pissed off ||well not really mad at them but like mildly annoyed but still i dont mind having those throwing knife freaks|| at a zealot since they are knifing all the specialist like trappers flamers before my plasma can shoot.

[vast basin]

Blaze away + quick flame is a common blessing combo

[ember yew]

maybe they will fix Overpressure one day

[shadow ember]

Khone himself appears before you, offering you a blade of unimaginable war, what, as a zealot is your response?

[vast basin]

I wish showstopper was better

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/general-zod-heresy-man-of-steel-superman-destroy-it-gif-25934938

[shadow ember]

isnt that how plasma feels to any headhunter/lasgun player?

[shadow ember]

if you respond with heresy thats on you

[vast basin]

I use my relic to push khorne off a ledge and instakill him

[shadow ember]

see, there we go, I personally span throwing knives at his head

[burnt ivy]

The real reason I love the flamer is that I can shoot through the Ogryn 😉

[shadow ember]

khone is big, his head has to have a wide hitbox

[vast basin]

Any weapon with cleave can shoot through ogryn

[burnt ivy]

Hard to aim though

[fossil crag]

Funny enough charge shot on a plasma does not go through crushers 👀

[polar nexus]

I mean you should prioritize ogryns or armored elites

[vast basin]

I was referring to teammate ogryns

[fading vale]

carapace stops everything

except flames

[polar nexus]

And love

[solar gorge]

what kind of monster would get in the way of love

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/kotick-bobby-kotick-trade-prince-activision-blizzard-gif-26935378

[burnt ivy]

Ask your local tax collector

[burnt ivy]

A new corruption!

[polar nexus]

My god

[burnt ivy]

off to play with burny things I go

[ember yew]

New boss event after twins

[solar gorge]

who is that

[ember yew]

God of Greed

[polar nexus]

Bobby Kotick

AKA Bobby Dick

[solar gorge]

i don't know who that is honestly

[polar nexus]

CEO of Activision blizzard king

[vast basin]

Ex CEO

[ember yew]

he got 315 million $ as his retirement gift

[solar gorge]

i know it's unrelated but is it possible to get a pawn in dd2 who isn't a perfect looking women in lingerie

it's all there is I swear

[polar nexus]

Oh he retired already?

[frosty herald]

start of this year

[ember yew]

yeah

too late tho

Overwatch 2 is dead atm, they are trying things to salvage something

but they got paycheck cut

due to bad perfomance ($$$)

and WoW is idk, stable i guess

• there was an insane amount of lay offs this year

Overwatch lost it's entire PvE team, or something that resembled that thing

Well, that's what they get for big fat lies about COOP PvE campaign with leveling and stuff

(its supposed to be something like vermintide/left for dead) with more story oriented interactions in missions

[polar nexus]

and people are complaining about fs

[ember yew]

fartshart are just lazy fish

but they do the work

just need a decade or so, but we'l get there

and enjoy top quality 4ppl w40k coop

https://tenor.com/view/tip-hat-hello-greetings-hi-there-gentlemen-gif-16683756

[frosty herald]

they advertised pve and now it has been straight up gutted

no more hero exclusive 10 minute missions anymore

[ember yew]

main issue is that PvE was cancelled almost 3 years ago

at the same time Jeff Kaplan left (he's a good guy tbh)

but they keep spouting nonsense for almost 1.5 years

after that, before they said the truth

they were afraid of backlash

but it happened either way

[calm salmon]

I don't even think they're particularly lazy.

People have just been conditioned to expect the yearly or bi-yearly release cycle from shit like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and Battlefield for AAA release titles. And then the constant update cycle from things like WoW, DoTA, LoL, and [Insert your favorite forever-grinder] games.

Fatshark just takes their time. /shrug

[ember yew]

FS has 200 or 300 employes (200+ for sure), but idk how they are divided now

between VT2 and DT

[frosty herald]

sweden also has alot of vacation days

[ember yew]

its the same size as Helldivers 2

+-

lemme check hd2 team

Despite initial server issues, Helldivers 2 garnered massive popularity & continues to receive support from fans. The small dev team of 100 members at Arrowhead Games Studios is working hard to accommodate its growing player base.

wat

shet

[obtuse stirrup]

Do they crunch though?

[ember yew]

im sure they are

(HD2 team)

but kudos for them for the hard work

[obtuse stirrup]

I'd rather have FS pace with no crunch

[solar gorge]

HD2 has an hidden advantage most people don't recongnise

all the stuff they're "adding"

is just locked behind events and has been in the files since launch

[ember yew]

yeah

[frosty herald]

also recycling old content

[ember yew]

its common practice

[frosty herald]

why waste time making everything new when you can use the old weapons and factions

[solar gorge]

it's a very clever way of making people feel like getting consistant new content

[ember yew]

you already got the content 6+- months ahead done and then release it piece by piece

planning is important

[calm salmon]

The fact that mechs still die in the transport pelican doesn't bode well though.

[solar gorge]

that's the best way to tackle ""live service"" in my opinion

[calm salmon]

Like. . .

come on

[frosty herald]

content is tied to events yeah

[solar gorge]

without that practice, making fresh new content monthly isn't possible

[frosty herald]

like mechs related to tien kwan

[solar gorge]

they needed a backlog to rely on

[ember yew]

and im sure the dev team will expand if the online will stay

[frosty herald]

or illuminate sightings to increase hype

[ember yew]

getting that support with 100 people will be hard

[calm salmon]

I still think its funny that they placed mechs on POIs around Tien Kwan when the mech dies in 1-3 rockets depending on where they hit you.

[solar gorge]

like yeah, illuminates are already in the files and borderline ready to go

we have the models

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/illuminati-gif-14252563

[solar gorge]

we have the 2 new mechs in the files too

[frosty herald]

we have the next warbond ready

[solar gorge]

flame mech and AC mech

and the one after

[frosty herald]

we also have the primal warbond in development

lots of new stratagems are coming

[solar gorge]

it's a very clever way of keeping the people who can't play games without said game receiving new content every hours interested

[ember yew]

no wonder with 100 people

[solar gorge]

it's like the jingling keys of releasing content

[calm salmon]

I do find myself getting frustrated with pub 8s and 9s in hd2 because its people just trying to "speed up the sample grind"

[solar gorge]

gotta keep that attention span

[calm salmon]

while they're blatantly not good enough for the difficulty

actually pain

in relation to the "Can't play without constant progress" crowd

[solar gorge]

yeah i wish people would just stand and fight instead of running away with the entire population of kenya hot on their track

like if you clear the breaches you cause.

don't let thing stacks

[ember yew]

my friend dropped the game because of this, i didnt purchased it yet (im fine with 2-4 sessions of DT per day tbh + other stuff like damned Genshin and Arknights + my work) and he doesn't want to suffer alone anymore

[solar gorge]

and then they'll cry there's too many mobs

[calm salmon]

be random

try to seaf artillery

proc 3 patrols

bug breach

die

respawned on team

run back to seaf

ANOTHER bug breach

Bitch at the team about how we're not helping

actually pain

[calm salmon]

I just pub it up in dif7 now.

[solar gorge]

you'll also often get people who just aggro 10 mobs patrols, kill 3 of them and then just start doing something else

[calm salmon]

I'll wait for the casual scrubs to quit/take a break

[solar gorge]

causing a breach

[calm salmon]

and its mostly just level 50s at helldive who don't care about rewards anymore

[oak ermine]

I have no idea what all that means in detail, but could it be attributed to bad decision making?

[ember yew]

that mostly happend when they finish battlepass (warbond), when a new ones arrives

its a pain in any team game

[solar gorge]

turning off crossplay genuinely helps

you're filtering a lot of morons this way

[ember yew]

how dare u block those ~~filthy console peasants ~~respectable playstation gentlemen

[calm salmon]

SEAF Artillery is a side objective in Helldivers 2

When you walk onto objectives, they spawn patrols. Patrols are equivalent groups of enemies that you see in Darktide and Vermintide.

A bug breach is a system of reinforcements in Helldivers, where bugs will crawl out of the ground. They spawn anywhere from 20-250 enemies, depending on difficulty.

Bug Breach "chains" are where the enemies that spawned from one bug breach call in another bug breach because the team didn't kill them fast enough so the enemy reinforcement timer hits 0.

[solar gorge]

like I know, not all console players but, let's just say the dummies are overrepresented when it come to the console platform

[frosty herald]

you spawn patrols when you activate the saef terminal

so just stack 5 bombs and then activate the terminal put everything in activate again and dip

[calm salmon]

But didn't you read the misinformation post.

They spawn when you step on the objective /s

Now, that's definitely true for extract.

You touch extract at any point in the mission and 3 patrols spawn instantly.

[solar gorge]

i have not experienced that

[calm salmon]

They spawn about ~80 meters away

just outside of max radar range with all upgrades

and then path through extract

[solar gorge]

just seems like they home in on the extract when you actually activate it to me

[calm salmon]

so if you just run through extract, they'll despawn by the time it matters

but if you just camp on extract, say with a jetpack to hide on a tall building or rock, you'll be swarmed by these patrols because they magically know where you're at and won't lose aggro like normal enemies.

Now, you can run into situations where the AI Director bugs and doesn't do that. I've had a few extracts where I had ~35 eats and ~9 manned HMG turrets on it

but normally its just "Lol omniscient enemies"

[fading vale]

puri #1 helldivers complainer

[calm salmon]

sort of complaining

but mostly information sharing this time

IE: Don't go to extract unless you're actively ready to leave the mission

[solar gorge]

damn, no new major oder after the one ended today

i'd like bots please

no more bugs

[fading vale]

I just don't like getting rocketed in the face or limbs or whatever and 1 shot randomly

but otherwise bots are fun

[calm salmon]

aimpunch and ragdolling

[fading vale]

aim punch is annoying too yes

[calm salmon]

arrowhead please make heavy armor feel like heavy armor and let me ignore aimpunch

Like, we've already gone through this with darktide

its NOT a good mechanic in a horde game

[calm salmon]

other than that, it just feels like I'm playing MGSV: Phantom Pain when I'm fighting bots

[frosty herald]

is aimpunch just your reticle moving after getting hit?

[calm salmon]

well, your whole body in HD2

but yes

It works okay in PvP games

since the team sizes are like 5v5 up to 50v50 or whatever

depending on franchise

[solar gorge]

heavy armor should indeed lessen aimpunch significantly

[calm salmon]

and humans are stupid and don't see the sniper from 200 meters away

[solar gorge]

because rn it's still a troll pick

even if it's better for bots

[frosty herald]

brodie got hit with abolishing fist twice

[calm salmon]

arrowhead nerfed the shield backpack

and I still see it literally every single bot match

[frosty herald]

heavy armor should negate small arms and small bugs like HD1

[calm salmon]

and most bug matches

Its almost like these mechanics that take our ability to fight back away just aren't fun or rewarding to deal with. But I dunno

[solar gorge]

i mean it's still very useful

[calm salmon]

maybe I'm just a sissy bitch mode can't hack it hd2 player

[solar gorge]

but i personally play without it

[calm salmon]

that said, I do take shield to bots

because fuck aimpunch

[solar gorge]

i do but not when there's only 3 stratagem allowed, fuck that

[calm salmon]

The last thing I want to do is poke my head around a corner and immediately get punished for it

[solar gorge]

i take like airstrike, orbital lase and AC

because AC stuns devastators on hit it's very good

[calm salmon]

ac vs amr makes me sad

like the one legitimate upside to having that scope is being able to fight hulks from a million miles away

but everything else about the amr is just bad

[solar gorge]

i'd use amr more if the sight wasn't off

like please

half the sights in first person are off in hd2

[calm salmon]

can it get more ammo than the autocannon

please and thanks

7x7(AMR) or 5x12(Autocannon)

[solar gorge]

i still need to find a way to use the full auto on the AC, perhaps with the fortified perk and proning

[calm salmon]

Actually, I think that's 6x6+7(AMR)

[calm salmon]

uh

against bugs

its not good against bots

unless you're just shooting into the troop bay of a dropship

[frosty herald]

100% cap

autocannon shines against bots

[calm salmon]

Yama

please learn to read first

[solar gorge]

the full auto

because for bots it's just about precision

[calm salmon]

Yeah, the full auto function is DOA against bots

[solar gorge]

so full auto wouldn't be able to deal with anything

[calm salmon]

but its amazing against bug breaches

you can just stand up and full auto

it straight up doesn't matter

[solar gorge]

people who cried and shat themselves about railgun should play bots

because it's still top there

[calm salmon]

I agree with the railgun needing to be nerfed

I do not agree with how it was done

It feels terrible to be pegged in place charging shots against chargers and bile titans to get to the point where you can pen their armor

its also literally pointless against bile titans now

shit takes like 25 shots to the head to kill one :(

[solar gorge]

and that's ok with me

it's a bot only weapon now

[calm salmon]

Yeah and that's stupid

[solar gorge]

now go one shot those hulks

[calm salmon]

There's already a very slim margin of good weapons for bugs

ripping one off the bugs was not the move

Stalwart, Autocannon, EAT-17

Recoilless Rifle just can't keep up in helldive

Spear straight up doesn't work

[solar gorge]

RR's fine from me playing it

[calm salmon]

AMR and Railgun are functionally identical for all that matters against bugs now - IE, terrible because you can just run stalwart+medium pen primary

[solar gorge]

and the starting mg is good too

med armor pen dumps on hive guards when the stalwart just ricochet off

[calm salmon]

plas-1 scorcher, slugger, or jar-5 + stalwart is. . . tedious.

But fine.

Fun when you get to go FULL auto with the stalwart, but half the time you get Bile Spewers who spawn in groups of 15 out of helldive bug breaches

and they come with funny medium armor

mg-43 locks you in place and has awful ammo economy because it only gets one mag back per resupply.

[solar gorge]

yep, once again, i'm asking arrowheads to add the info in the mission briefing if the campaign features bile spewers or not

[calm salmon]

FWIW

[burnt ivy]

Apologies to Maelstrom Mechanic team. Got a maelstrom mission that mattered(would have completed my entire class penance). I had my base flamer selected, waiting for others and accidently dropped in. After my third death, gave up and dropped out. Oof I had been waiting for that mission for a month

[calm salmon]

ops have the same enemy types

so if mission one in an op spawns bile nurses

all three missions in the op spawn bile nurses

[solar gorge]

yeah ik but i'd like to know from the get go

so i don't have to spend an entire mission whishing i had the ac

or the arc thrower

[calm salmon]

I hate the arc thrower against spewers

it doesn't work correctly on their dead bodies

so there's just a huge area where you can't shoot until bugs path through it

[solar gorge]

3 head shots infinite ammo, clanky but works good enough

[calm salmon]

better assumption is 5

you can't guarantee anything with the arc thrower

[solar gorge]

and now they fixed the crash related to it so goat thrower is back

[calm salmon]

so sure, 3 headshots is a nice dream, but rarely a reality

[solar gorge]

eh, doesn't matter, it will arc into something else and still pull great values from my experience

thing just kills

[calm salmon]

yeah I'm not saying its bad

just that its breakpoints are uh

inconsistent at best

like the spear

because the aiming function is out of your control

[solar gorge]

yeah except with arc thrower, if it flukes no big deal, just chain another bolt in 1 sec, but with the spear....

[calm salmon]

afk bile titan

staring at head

it takes 3 minutes for the spear to finally lock on

miss head

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[solar gorge]

if you shoot the spear too close from a charger

[ripe quest]

MG is 3 pen instead of Stalwart's 2 pen which is nice for bugs.

[solar gorge]

i'll just go over and hit the ground behind it

[calm salmon]

yeah but you can just run stalwart+ammo bag and a medium pen primary

like the plas-1 scorcher

and just run around doing whatever with your red strats

I usually use railcannon and eagle 500

[frosty herald]

The heavy machine gun will be pen 4

[ripe quest]

MG has way higher dps than a Scorcher.

[calm salmon]

and all of the downsides

static reload

terrible ammo economy

Muzzle flash

[frosty herald]

Is the blitzer better or still eh

[solar gorge]

you can fix the last 2 with ammo backpack and third person

[calm salmon]

blitzer shotgun is ass and you can't change my mind

infinite ammo is not worth one shot every 1.5 seconds

with a range limit of ~10 meters

[ripe quest]

Muzzle flash is cosmetic, ammo econ only matters if you're truly magdumping and have doubled strat cds, and static reload is annoying but you can partial reload.

[calm salmon]

muzzle flash definitely isn't cosmetic when I'm in first person using the FOV zoom to see further

which is also my complaint with the jar5

[frosty herald]

Just find a rock you can hide behind

[calm salmon]

I CANT FUCKING SEE WHEN I SHOOT

[solar gorge]

just shoot in third person reeee

[calm salmon]

the jar5 is even worse

you can't see in 3rd person either

[ripe quest]

Genuine skill issue if that affects your aim.

[calm salmon]

I will direct you to escape from tarkov

where literally everyone does everything in their power to mitigate the effects of muzzle flash

[ripe quest]

I played EFT, shit wasn't a problem there from what I played.

[frosty herald]

How do you even aim badly in third person

[spare dome]

The center of the screen is literally always in the same place.

How is muzzle flash an issue.

[calm salmon]

cool but the gun moves away from COS

and the muzzle flash makes it impossible to see my red dot

or anything past the muzzle

granted: On the mg-43 this is a first person issue only

[frosty herald]

Who is up to play smelldivers?

[spare dome]

Skissue I guess yeah

Heckdippers

[solar gorge]

i ain't touching wleshdivers until there's a major order

[ripe quest]

The sight is layered on top of the flash + the flash doesn't cover what's behind it 100% of the time.

[calm salmon]

just cap yourself on medals so it doesn't matter

[spare dome]

I need more warbonds

[coarse dagger]

Fartdivers

[solar gorge]

i'm already capped !

[spare dome]

Thousands more

[solar gorge]

it's been 3 weeks

[worldly bramble]

I think I attained a record last night.
We finished a mission with both grimoires... and 8 deaths. 😂

[spare dome]

Has it?

Oh huh

[solar gorge]

i'm capped in everyhting

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/797840599562715196/875316421180145704/image0-8-1-1.gif

[calm salmon]

same

[spare dome]

Yeah I was done the second day lmao

Sad to say

[calm salmon]

and I still have 8000 samples collected

the things we do for randoms

[bitter yoke]

farm the 1k auper creds for next warbond

[solar gorge]

it's done

[bitter yoke]

i gott say it gets boring once you max out

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[calm salmon]

you people need to learn how to play a game that doesn't offer infinite progression

[solar gorge]

major orders keep me going

[calm salmon]

you can just have fun playing it

[bitter yoke]

you mean like 2 hous a day instead of 10?

[oak ermine]

Imagine having fun in a video game just for the heck of it. Couldn’t be me || hitting almost 1,6K hours in DT ||

[spare dome]

I just play at 7 and really take in the stupidity of the average player.

[calm salmon]

I mean yeah

that's what I do

helldive is fun, extracts aside

[solar gorge]

i'll play regardless but the major order and galactic war mechanic is literally the best part

[calm salmon]

but the other people stacking bile titans into a group of 10 is

frustrating

[spare dome]

Survival is not mission critical.

[solar gorge]

yeah, they're extracting samples afterall, not helldivers

[calm salmon]

I just kinda scratch my head as to why extract even exists in dif 8 and 9

sometimes you get lucky and a single patrol spawns

[spare dome]

I only care about extraction inasmuch as my lobby isn't all rank 50 no lifers like me

[calm salmon]

every other time its an endless horde of enemies that completely overwhelm you and you just end up running in a circle for 120 seconds hoping you don't get randomly oneshot

just seems weird

[ripe quest]

That's optimal though, wipe the shit out of them with some 500kgs and barrages.

[solar gorge]

mechs have been a godsend to extract on bug missions easily

[calm salmon]

you can literally turn your brain off if even one chad brings a mech to bug missions

regardless of the difficulty

[solar gorge]

i've done double mechs on extract and nothing can close the gap

nothing

[calm salmon]

1 mech will lockdown helldive extermination missions

[solar gorge]

no matter how many

[spare dome]

Except another helldivers

[ripe quest]

The 2nd mech will do that but with bots.

[calm salmon]

let alone a normal extract

where they're usually funneling in from one, maybe two directions

and you have ~80 meters of distance for them to cover

[ripe quest]

Double ACs just hard-counter bots, super solid for them

[solar gorge]

can't wait for the double ac mech to drop yeah

the botkiller

[ripe quest]

Err ig It's 4 acs

[calm salmon]

bot extracts aren't too bad until you get 85 devastators shoved up your liberation hole

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[spare dome]

its not gonna be any tankier than the other mech

so its gonna be fun to hear the complaints about that

[solar gorge]

no but it stunlocks devastators

played well nothing will be able to shoot back

[ripe quest]

From what I can tell it has front armor or smth. Haven't fully tested it.

[merry spade]

I just got this hammer as a mission reward, concecrated it one time and it gives me thrust 4.

[solar gorge]

except tanks

[calm salmon]

according to the [redacted] the AC mech pens titans and chargers

so. . .

another bug mech

[bitter yoke]

if he's taking my fun i'm bombing his mech no doubts

[solar gorge]

like the ac turret

[calm salmon]

and the flamemech is going to be DOA for bots anyway

[solar gorge]

but it takes a while to kill them

[calm salmon]

so all three mechs are gonna be bug oriented

I guess that's one way to fix the stratagem weapon problems against bugs

don't actually fix the weapons

[desert bough]

EDF

EDF

[calm salmon]

just give us 3 mechs to kill bugs with

[desert bough]

Kill bug good

[merry spade]

I dont normally use the hammer, so how do i make this usable/better?

[lusty oar]

to save our mother earth from any alien attack

[calm salmon]

catch me using:

Normal Mech, AC Mech, Autocannon, Eagle Airstrike

Against bugs when we get the AC mech

[bitter yoke]

it's usually used to oneshot stuff

[ripe quest]

It has 0 AoE though, on 7+ it's team reliant on medium and below unless you just want to kite in a mech and burn ammo

[calm salmon]

I mean

sorta?

[spare dome]

And if it pens titans and chargers then it melts tanks and hulks

[calm salmon]

Completey removing the two problem enemies is a fine role to fill

[ripe quest]

Also has a low bile TTK unless you have the PS5 bug

[solar gorge]

i hope the flamethrower's range on the flame mech isn't dogshit

[ripe quest]

The rocket mech dumpsters biles far faster

[calm salmon]

the ps5 bug makes me saad