ghost isnt though
#zealot-class
polar nexus
guyz, you use the lastpistol to metl crushers and bosses
hard nexus
its not ideal
royal vortex
laspistol on a BP build has comical chastise damage into crushers
hard nexus
bp?
sterile basalt
Laspistol is one of the 4 guns that actually has built-in suppression immunity
polar nexus
keep the perks and jsut change blessings
sterile basalt
So BTE does absolutely nothing for u
hard nexus
Laspistol is one of the 4 guns that actually has built-in suppression immunity
whats the other 3, plasma gun?
sterile basalt
whats the other 3, plasma gun?
Plasma
Helbore
Shotgun
Laspistol
hard nexus
o
red pollen
Plasma
Helbore
Shotgun
Laspistol
I never knew any of those except shotguns nice to know. Always hip fire plasma anyway tho
polar nexus
i use a crit chance unyielding laspistol as a side piece
hard nexus
I never knew any of those except shotguns nice to know. Always hip fire plasma a...
well its not like you can aim a plasma
sterile basalt
I never knew any of those except shotguns nice to know. Always hip fire plasma a...
Yea I wrote about those in my veteran guide
hard nexus
only 21.99!
polar nexus
meow!
hard nexus
meow!
sterile basalt
well its not like you can aim a plasma
Plasma’s firing animations in 3rd person actually has ur character hold it up and “aiming” through its sights
hard nexus
does it even have sights
sterile basalt
Like you would with an infantry lasgun
vast basin
does autopistol have suppression immunity?
sterile basalt
does it even have sights
Yes (iron sights) like braced autoguns
hard nexus
o
misty mason
With the 20% damage on switch talent, p gun so stronk
sterile basalt
does autopistol have suppression immunity?
AFAIK no
Also it kinda doesn’t matter because you wouldn’t shoot it far away anyways
polar nexus
ap is suppress first 😄
sterile basalt
So yea if you just want to not get bothered by suppression ever on zealot, use laspistol or shotgun
red pollen
Idk if this is common knowledge but martyrs purpose isn’t a flat cooldown reduction based on your hp like I read everywhere, it converts damage you take into cooldown, and it seems like it’s only purpose is to guarantee your ability is ready when until death wears off. Noticed this when a demon host refreshed chastise like 2-3 times per second while I was in until death beating the shit out of it with an axe
red pollen
So yea if you just want to not get bothered by suppression ever on zealot, use l...
But… hipfire boltgun
sterile basalt
But… hipfire boltgun
Not the most effective vs gunners at range tbh
hard nexus
But… hipfire boltgun
erm akshually bolter is supoptimal and not within meta so uhm erm
sterile basalt
Boltgun is prob one of zealot’s best ranged weapons tbh
polar nexus
i use boltgun all the time
red pollen
erm akshually bolter is supoptimal and not within meta so uhm erm
It has no equal
hard nexus
erm revolver is just a better bolter 🤓
red pollen
As long as you have knives and chastise
spare dome
i dont wanna mislead people
hard nexus
Boltgun is prob one of zealot’s best ranged weapons tbh
really?
spare dome
but when i say i use bolter all the time
hard nexus
the bolter still feels kind of underpowered
hard nexus
1 mag half boss hp is pretty neat actually
true
red pollen
Time to find the clip I show my friends when they say it sucks hold on
spare talon
Idk if this is common knowledge but martyrs purpose isn’t a flat cooldown reduct...
regardless, it is explicitly health damage, and taking a node that is banking on that just isnt worth the point cost
spare dome
what i really mean is i use bolter sometimes and throwing knives a lot
polar nexus
bolter needs some talents and blessings
red pollen
regardless, it is explicitly health damage, and taking a node that is banking on...
Oh for sure I don’t even use it anymore at all
polar nexus
it's not a plasma...
stone fern
erm revolver is just a better bolter 🤓
actually you want a braced gun and you wanna use it to supress things instead of killing them
hard nexus
why supress when u can just kill
stone fern
because killing is bad 😦
hard nexus
true
sterile basalt
what i really mean is i use bolter sometimes and throwing knives a lot
true
stone fern
seriously though the graia will legit never run out of ammo if you have one survivalist vets
ive used one to mag dump on anything that moved and never ran out of ammo
spare dome
yea it dakkas hard
polar nexus
imagine using a graia with 3 survivalist
sterile basalt
Survivalist doesn’t stack
polar nexus
that what happened to me yesterday
red pollen
Here’s a bolter deleting a pack of crushers in one magazine not even a perfect situation. Literally nothing in the zealot kit can do this
sterile basalt
Auras can’t stack in general
polar nexus
it's not the point
red pollen
Auric damnation
stone fern
you may not like it but this is the ideal hoard clear melee weapon
polar nexus
you don't have to stay close to the one vet
you can just go back and forth between them
sterile basalt
So I’ll try bloodthirsty + rampage/momentum mk15 evicerator tonight
If bloodthirsty turns out bad I’ll go back to shred
north sedge
Here’s a bolter deleting a pack of crushers in one magazine not even a perfect s...
Flamer is alot better at it
red pollen
Flamer is alot better at it
No way
Flamer does nothing without of chastise to crushers, where bolter can still kill in half a mag without it
polar nexus
erm revolver is just a better bolter 🤓
i prefer revolver on the vet, with supression immunity
sterile basalt
the bolter still feels kind of underpowered
It’s a specialty weapon that’s extremely powerful in its specialty (delete large enemies with overwhelming firepower)
stone fern
So I’ll try bloodthirsty + rampage/momentum mk15 evicerator tonight
rampage wrath shred and bloodthirsty is recommended but i kinda like momentum
sterile basalt
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/118965392911...
It’s a lot slower killing than Boltgun tho
north sedge
It’s a lot slower killing than Boltgun tho
Bolter cannot kill 20 crushers in one mag
maiden path
hey loius
remembah the time when i chastise flamethrtoewr whahwhawhahhawh darktide
fuck u petah
use boltah
sterile basalt
rampage wrath shred and bloodthirsty is recommended but i kinda like momentum
+cleave doesn’t go through mk15 evicerator’s 4 target limit tho
misty nova
Petah, the inquisition is here
stone fern
+cleave doesn’t go through mk15 evicerator’s 4 target limit tho
yeah idk why its recommended but it is
sterile basalt
Bolter cannot kill 20 crushers in one mag
It’s pretty rare to need to kill 20 crushers with ranged weapon at the same time tho?
And if you had to, nothing really beats the (bugged) interaction between thunderous and DOTs
hard nexus
whats that
south folio
if the context is whether another ranged weapon can delete a mass group of crushers
then yes a flamer can
hard nexus
oh does thunderous apply to dot
south folio
(bolter main btw)
sterile basalt
oh does thunderous apply to dot
Thunderous (for some reason) applies on every single tick of dmg
sterile basalt
It’s most definitely a bug
north sedge
if the context is whether another ranged weapon can delete a mass group of crush...
Was "nothing is better than bolter at this"
sterile basalt
Because a similar interaction between veteran’s onslaught and DOT was patched out a while ago
south folio
oh yeah i would absolutely rate a flamer over the bolter for that
stone fern
fucking flamers are so awful i have legit only seen one flamer with burn and radius above 75
south folio
esp when considering that crushers are not coming alone
maiden path
only reason I bring bolter is because i hate bulwarks
psyker with brainblast
beoooow
vast basin
my kantrael shotty with infinite cleave that pierces bulwarks: 
south folio
slow ass blitz
sterile basalt
fucking flamers are so awful i have legit only seen one flamer with burn and rad...
Don’t u love class-specific weapons that have oddly high requirements in specific stat rolls
maiden path
slow ass blitz
i ran a build made to just lower the time to blitz like crazy
sterile basalt
Plasma 78+ dmg & 78+ SP
median steeple
my fav weapon
maiden path
took it down to lik 500 ms
median steeple
hot blue piss
stone fern
Don’t u love class-specific weapons that have oddly high requirements in specifi...
well i do have the flamer of zero ammo
hard nexus
slow ass blitz
kid named enhanced psionics and kinetic barrage
misty nova
my kantrael shotty with infinite cleave that pierces bulwarks: <:thumbsup_ogryn:...
My Eviscerator 
median steeple
plasma me beloved
maiden path
it wasnt very optimal but it was very funny
south folio
kid named enhanced psionics and kinetic barrage
and only with those is it competing with other weapons for unyielding DPS
a sad state of affairs
hard nexus
i mean even EP is enough
i run it on gunker
n i can clear crushers and bulwarks easily enough
obv its not like
stone fern
fuck it we ball im rolling the trash flamer
south folio
yeah and i was generally comparing it to a generalist build
sterile basalt
fuck it we ball im rolling the trash flamer
Me when I roll 4 75 burn flamers in a row:
south folio
if you want me to compare it to another build that specs for boss damage
hard nexus
i wish psyker had a bolt staff
hard nexus
yum 4 staves
median steeple
we aint ever getting another staff
hard nexus
all with the same primary fire
south folio
it would be really funny if we get a melee weapon before a new staff
sterile basalt
all with the same primary fire
Purgatus is different
south folio
it'll take a single-target staff + 2h force sword for me to hop back onto psyker
median steeple
well no not barely it is diff
stone fern
Me when I roll 4 75 burn flamers in a row:
aaaaaand two bricks
misty nova
it would be really funny if we get a melee weapon before a new staff
Force dagger, plz force dagger
hard nexus
well no not barely it is diff
psycho ur supposed to be on my side\
median steeple
hard nexus
also hi psycho
south folio
Force dagger, plz force dagger
but not before 2h force sword
median steeple
hallo
south folio
2h force sword 2h force sword 2h force sword 2h force sword
hard nexus
2 handed power sword
south folio
no
south folio
yes
fair igloo
2 handed ogryn rocket hammer
south folio
no
hard nexus
3 two handed weapons as a whole
sterile basalt
3 two handed weapons as a whole
5 rn
south folio
only give psyker the 2h ones
fair igloo
is that including the variants
stone fern
3 handed force sword when?
south folio
psyker hit the gym during the patches
stone fern
you need a second psyker to swing it
median steeple
pretty sure two handed power and force swords were in the insignia leaks back at fucking launch
hard nexus
3 handed force sword when?
when the genestealers come out
sterile basalt
2 thunder hammers
Crusher
2 evicerators
fair igloo
Also ik it's mostly gameplay purposes but is there a reason we have to use certain variants of weps a specific way
median steeple
stone fern
all i want is a force shovel
fair igloo
Like what's stopping us from fanning the hammer with the zarona and reloading it with a speedloader
hard nexus
because grendyl said so
stone fern
power force blaze swords
misty nova
Like what's stopping us from fanning the hammer with the zarona and reloading it...
It took a year until they learned how to speed load
stone fern
theres nothing stopping you from adding a power source to a deimos cmon do it
sterile basalt
What’s stopping you from loading the entire mag tube in your mk9 shotgun with fire shells
fair igloo
also when are they giving us wild west cosmetics
calm salmon
Like what's stopping us from fanning the hammer with the zarona and reloading it...
fatshark
calm salmon
What’s stopping you from loading the entire mag tube in your mk9 shotgun with fi...
fatshark
north sedge
i mean, that's just game design in general
hard nexus
next week™️
frosty herald
use the funny shell tube to instantly reload the shotgun
median steeple
gotta have some way to diff the revolvers
calm salmon
instead of the garbage ass 1 shot, 1 reload mechanic we have
calm salmon
In other news. funee clip
fair igloo
replace zarona's pistol whip special attack with fan the hammer and give it speedloader reload >:)
calm salmon
dopamine>complaining about fatshark
fair igloo
plasma gun will finally have competition
median steeple
https://streamable.com/5vu8cs
In other news. funee clip
damn bro got rod from god
frosty herald
https://streamable.com/5vu8cs
In other news. funee clip
bro got his skull drilled
misty mason
dopamine=complaining about fatshark
inner cargo
What’s stopping you from loading the entire mag tube in your mk9 shotgun with fi...
Grendyl
calm salmon
nothing more satisfying than bopping a bug with the 500 bomb directly
misty mason
calm salmon
dopamine=complaining about fatshark
eh
I'm over it at this point. They fixed the game up real well.
misty mason
when the strategem gets stuck to the crusher
median steeple
calm salmon
There's nothing particularly wrong with darktide at this point
royal vortex
calm salmon
just balance stuff that needs to be dialed in
royal vortex
they have murdered the kant shotgun
misty mason
There's nothing *particularly* wrong with darktide at this point
Yeah I was just memeing
fair igloo
Give us wild west cosmetics!!!!!
calm salmon
but that's way better than ERROR 2004 ERROR 0000 ERROR 2009 ERROR 2000 ERROR 0001
etc etc etc
median steeple
kant has fallen millions must use plasma
misty mason
The game is actually in a good state, it just needs more content and a review of crafting (which theyre doing)
inner cargo
The game is actually in a good state, it just needs more content and a review of...
True
calm salmon
The game is actually in a good state, it just needs more content and a review of...
yeah I've been on a hefty break.
royal vortex
it actually has a cleave limit now (although u still just hit like 1 pellet for the full stacks so its not quite as bad into non-ogryn guys)
sterile basalt
Update next week
misty mason
It's honestly what makes me a bit nervous about the next patch
calm salmon
I can't complain though. I have 1700 hours in darktide.
I've done everything you can reasonably expect in this game.
inner cargo
Update next week <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Unironically might be
calm salmon
Just waiting for more stuff to do, more toys to play with, crafting update etc
misty mason
Things are pretty good at the moment. Like sure some stuff is a bit unbalanced, but there are a lot of viable builds/weapons
sterile basalt
Unironically might be
No it’s pretty much guaranteed
Because next week they gotta release another cosmetic rotation and there’s nothing new
inner cargo
No it’s pretty much guaranteed
It's penances right?
misty mason
And if they change blessings fundamentally, you know that balance is going out the window
sterile basalt
They had to patch in a set last Friday
stone fern
Update next week <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
we just have to isolate for two more weeks to get the update
(3 years later)
sterile basalt
It's penances right?
Yea
calm salmon
And if they change blessings fundamentally, you know that balance is going out t...
I think the big thing I'm looking for is:
Plasma Gun Nerf, Revolver nerf, and Ripper buff
sterile basalt
This week should be announcement
calm salmon
I've given up on Recon Lasguns ever being good
they're not bad right now on veteran
but they're really only okay on one specific build
stone fern
I think the big thing I'm looking for is:
Plasma Gun Nerf, Revolver nerf, and ...
if trauma gets nerfed ill cry
misty mason
nooo not my pgun (yeah it should prob get nerfed)
inner cargo
This week should be announcement
I be hoping for gasmask and helmet for vet
stone fern
i cant wait to bitch in the forum
inner cargo
they're not *bad* right now on veteran
Mk2 is irredeemable
south folio
kill trauma
calm salmon
if trauma gets nerfed ill cry
there's no real reason to nerf the trauma staff
south folio
there absolutely is
calm salmon
its an awfully clunky weapon
south folio
AoE weapon that has a combination of stagger and damage
stone fern
oh yeah lets kill the one good weapon psyker has
south folio
yeah, it's clunky if you're unwilling to learn how to use it
inner cargo
Nerf rashad
sterile basalt
nooo not my pgun (yeah it should prob get nerfed)
It needs a cleave nerf on uncharged shots
I don’t think it needs dmg nerf tho
south folio
it also has a high skill ceiling if you're unwilling to learn how to use it
inner cargo
calm salmon
nobody deserves to suffer stairs with the trauma
stone fern
lets nerf psword+plasma+revolver+shovels lets kill vet too
south folio
oh yeah lets kill the one good weapon psyker has
yeah if you ignore the other staffs, and voidstrike is still part of psyker's arsenal if you want to only talk about the very top weapons
south folio
lets nerf psword+plasma+revolver+shovels lets kill vet too
i do agree with that
a good few things need to be tapered down
if you meant that as an argument, i hope you realize that i'm a psyker main
fading vale
if you meant that as an argument, i hope you realize that i'm a psyker main
everyone point and laugh
calm salmon
lets nerf psword+plasma+revolver+shovels lets kill vet too
rashad combat axe>power sword - this wouldn't kill vet
plasma is blatantly overpowered in every way - this wouldn't kill vet either because all of the other shit he gets is still good
Revolver is blatantly overpowered - see above
Shovel is fuckin whatever
south folio
everyone point and laugh
i hope steve finally crushes you
misty mason
I just hope they make a couple more melee weapons viable/fun for vet. I only really like the rashad and multishovel atm
north sedge
omg no nerfs only buffs
stone fern
i do agree with that
@south folio you as riot
sterile basalt
Just nerf plasma uncharged cleave
median steeple
omg no nerfs only buffs
cant believe they nerfed railgun its so over
arrowhead has fallen
south folio
<@297182781346152448> you as riot
except that we live in a world where crushers are getting 2/3-shot
sterile basalt
Dmg (at least headshot dmg) doesn’t need tuning
south folio
now, note that i also hope for enemies to get nerfed in "amount that spawns" department
misty mason
cant believe they nerfed railgun its so over
disposable anti tank
calm salmon
cant believe they nerfed railgun its so over
Real talk: I agree with the railgun being nerfed.
Hot take: I hate the way it was nerfed
median steeple
my opinion is
misty mason
my beloved
fading vale
i hope steve finally crushes you
median steeple
I dont give a shit since I always used teh flamethrower
south folio
the fact that we can 2/3-shot crushers (and other elites) means that the game has to spam them for them to be a meaningful threat
misty mason
flamethrower is so awful haha
south folio
https://tenor.com/view/happy-tears-gif-5444305630869766012
he will condense into a black hole and destroy you
calm salmon
why the flamethrower in hd2 only has ~11 meters of reach I'll never know
that shit needs to be like 25-30
median steeple
still waiting for an armor that reduces flame damage
stone fern
except that we live in a world where crushers are getting 2/3-shot
people are still dying to them tho
misty mason
why the flamethrower in hd2 only has ~11 meters of reach I'll never know
Flamethrower only needs enough range to burn your teammates ❤️
fading vale
flamethrower fun on bugs
median steeple
do not use it on bots oh god fuck that faction
calm salmon
flamethrower fun on bugs
don't bitch at me when I clusterbomb the bug breach you're camping
south folio
people are still dying to them tho
yeah sure the average player is not going to fare well on them
calm salmon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
south folio
but the game has multiple difficulties
calm salmon
(That's why the flamer needs more reach)
south folio
if you want an easier experience, just go down a level
but for people who play at the highest diff, there is no going up
royal vortex
people are still dying to them tho
the average player is also chilling in malice
stone fern
if you want an easier experience, just go down a level
i agree
south folio
i hope that i shouldn't have to argue that the highest difficulty should actually be difficult
stone fern
but no one has the time to grind 3 times as long to get the resources needed to craft shit
royal vortex
the game has a very solid wall where you get too good to be meaningfully challenged in most gameplay moments
sterile basalt
Oh yea if they’re gonna nerf plasma dmg, nerf carapace ADM
I don’t think the other ADMs need to be tuned down given they directly interact with ur breakpoints
south folio
you don't need the perfect rolls for good weapons
north sedge
only nerfs no buffs
south folio
you vastly overestimate the impact of crafting for the vast majority of weapons
median steeple
I mean dmg is prob not the only thing plasma is gonna nerfed for
stone fern
man i dont want perfect rolls i just want the perks and blessings i want
median steeple
you know it having inf cleave
calm salmon
the game has a very solid wall where you get too good to be meaningfully challen...
maelstrom is really the only door left but uh
I think everyone has a specific gripe with maelstrom
-which is going to change person to person
royal vortex
maelstrom is not more difficult in a way that you can skill through because most of the modes are "waves of stupid bullshit"
unkempt garden
Any tips on getting the shocking stuff penance? been trying for a minute now and just cant seems to get it
sterile basalt
I mean dmg is prob not the only thing plasma is gonna nerfed for
Cleave is main thing that needs to be nerfed for uncharged shots, I think carapace dmg can also get tuned down but I wouldn’t change much besides that
At most I’d raise uncharged ammo cost from 3 to 4
south folio
if you're gunning for one weapon at a time, it's not particularly difficult to just get one weapon that has good rolls
calm salmon
maelstrom is not more difficult in a way that you can skill through because most...
see: specific gripe -change person to person
royal vortex
and some of the hard ones reduce the game's combat significantly (i.e melee maelstrom)
south folio
especially if you are willing to lower your tolerance level for stat distributions
royal vortex
i have a gripe with almost every maelstrom mode, i would call that more than specific
stone fern
what the hell am i supposed to do with this
fading vale
Any tips on getting the shocking stuff penance? been trying for a minute now and...
all you can really do is get a bunch of horde enemies stacked, stun, and flamer them
calm salmon
especially if you are willing to lower your tolerance level for stat distributio...
this is why I got the true stats mod, where the stat bars cap at 80% instead of having 81-100% be empty space
stone fern
and yes i just upgraded this to make a point
south folio
either way, people overstate how grindy crafting is
I agree that crafting feels bad and that it's difficult to reach the last few percentages and to get t4 blessings, but ultimate those differences do not matter much for the majority of weapons
misty mason
Would bolter work?
royal vortex
because theyre not really a harder challenge as much as they are a twitch mode incentivized by giving you more dockets
calm salmon
it makes it way easier to see just how fine 69% is in a stat
median steeple
what the hell am i supposed to do with this
fuck it we ball and gamble
misty mason
Or agri brauto?
calm salmon
for a few weapons you need specific BPs:
Flamer with 76%
Ogryn shovels with 77% or more in all three damage stats
shit like that
south folio
and the crafting being poopoo is no reason to keep the game as easy as it is
fading vale
either way, people overstate how grindy crafting is
I agree that crafting *feels...
if you don't play damnation you have to play a billion missions
stone fern
can we all appreciate the fact that i knew this flamer would brick just to prove a point?
south folio
if you don't play damnation you have to play a billion missions
though there's always low int and non-auric d5s just do not have a lot happening
like, i queued for a hishock non-auric and i quit midway because it was so boring
stone fern
forget what i said i take back everything
fading vale
oh yeah regular damnation is basically easy mode
royal vortex
i have to be like physically impaired for a non-auric hishock or auric hi5 to feel interesting
stone fern
does overpressure work or no?
bitter yoke
what the hell am i supposed to do with this
Trash it
royal vortex
still bugged
fading vale
does overpressure work or no?
no
polar nexus
in oceania sometime i have to qp regular damn and well, sometime it's lo int 😦
median steeple
op will never be fixed
royal vortex
i also hate that there's basically 0 challenge content you can run with a premade of 4 besides twins hard mode
and not just kinda
wm1 through it
fading vale
just change crit damage for now and keep showstopper cause all the other flamer blessings outside of blaze are useless
royal vortex
i think private mission modifiers you can select that don't add reward but make the game harder would be dope
like deeds from vt2 or smth
stone fern
just change crit damage for now and keep showstopper cause all the other flamer ...
its actually not bad now
fading vale
what's not bad
polar nexus
you could chose your handicap and get a reward
stone fern
it has blaze away as second blessing
fading vale
yeah I just mean keep showstopper for now
because none of the flamer blessings except blaze do anything
and change crit and leave a spot open
median steeple
fuckin dry ass turkey
sterile basalt
why does warren have the fkin CRANKED spawns at the end event but not the mid
Me when I see 10 maulers walk through a door:
royal vortex
ive had runs end because i brought a build that does not withstand 15 ragers assaulting you from around a corner and none of my teammates could hold back the tide
(the dark tide)
(theyre all scab ragers)
inner cargo
either way, people overstate how grindy crafting is
I agree that crafting *feels...
And then there's rashad
polar nexus
why does warren have the fkin CRANKED spawns at the end event but not the mid
let met talk to you about hab dreyko
misty mason
It's the tricky thing about end game stuff is games usually have to pull one od two levers
Grind
RNG
Or both in varying degrees
royal vortex
warren finale is wild
there's 1 exact type of build that absolutely fkin sucks to have for it
and its playing a full left side vet with no grenade regen
misty mason
End game stuff in persistent online games at least
royal vortex
when ur the first guy into the room with the 4 tanks
and u trigger the fkin avalanche of dudes
and u just die
stone fern
It's the tricky thing about end game stuff is games usually have to pull one od ...
idk i think its just weird having rng in a game that relies on player skill so much
stone fern
like one layer is enough
misty mason
Yeah I suspect they'll make it less rng based but more grindy
south folio
there's a better implementation if they had a clear ideea of what the system was meant to be, but it's certainly too grindy and the rng seems meaningless regardless of whatever they intended for it to be besides being a time gate
polar nexus
ive had runs end because i brought a build that does not withstand 15 ragers ass...
i had the same problem so much that i became hesitant to bring something else than a bolter/revolver claw
north sedge
they should also strip out a bunch of redundant blessings (looking at you impact)
south folio
VICIOUS SLICE
stone fern
1 you dont know how much plasteel youll get per mission
2 you dont know what kind of base youll get
3 you dont know what upgrades youll get
4 you dont know if youll ever get the blessings you want assuming the perks are fine in the furst place
royal vortex
they should also strip out a bunch of redundant blessings (looking at you impact...
the thing more annoying than impact blessings is that if a weapon gets one it almost always gets like fucking THREE
north sedge
yup
south folio
DEVIL CLAW BABEEEEE
stone fern
DELETE BARRAGE FROM THE GAME
royal vortex
i could understand one in the world where its easier to measure the effect of impact and it like frankly does something useful in more situations
north sedge
hey lets make sure hammer has 16 blessings, only 3 of them are good
spare dome
its called variety sweaty
stone fern
AND BAN WHOEVER MADE BARRAGE FROM DEVELOPING VIDEO GAMES FOR 3 YEARS
polar nexus
barrage?
stone fern
whoever made terrifying barrage should be banned from making video games for 3 year at least
south folio
barrage obama
maiden path
ora ora ora obama
royal vortex
terrifying barrage is just bizarre because its on a bunch of weapons that dont need it
polar nexus
barrage obamark 2
calm salmon
there's a better implementation if they had a clear ideea of what the system was...
at least we don't have korean-mmo mechanics
stone fern
i love getting barrage on purg it really makes my day
calm salmon
BUY THIS FOUR DOLLAR STONE TO GUARANTEE A TIER 4 BLESSING OR PERK ON UPGRADE
royal vortex
ive thought about whether or not melee enemies need a suppressed state that slows them and its like u probs shouldnt even do that because then "damage vs suppressed enemies" isnt even conditional and that is simply lame
stone fern
BUY THIS FOUR DOLLAR STONE TO GUARANTEE A TIER 4 BLESSING OR PERK ON UPGRADE
(its the wrong t4 blessing)
calm salmon
Yeah
so the rng is bad
but like
its not monetized so its not as awful as it could be
south folio
And then there's rashad
sure, though at the same time, it's an interesting case of where you would actually take +unarmoured compared to the other usual picks if you want to reach a certain BP
And, while it is an example of a weapon with tight BPs, it is, at the same time, the rashad
stone fern
i dont even want t4s this is fine for me
calm salmon
I wonder if brutal momentum would be better if there were zero melee weapons that could hit one-shot bps
fullstop
stone fern
but shit like that is rare
calm salmon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
calm salmon
i dont even want t4s this is fine for me
iags are weird
literally all you need is flak and maniac
and the blessings basically don't matter
south folio
even not considering bruisers, BM is still p good on taxes just for poxwalkers and groaners
(assuming no crits)
4 targets is just way too much
royal vortex
even not considering bruisers, BM is still p good on taxes just for poxwalkers a...
they don't know...
polar nexus
but shit like that is rare
taxes without heavies, perks and good rolls
south folio
https://streamable.com/ivu1af
get out of here
stone fern
hell this one is on my vet i can live with elites
royal vortex
the sekrets...
polar nexus
literally all you need is flak and maniac
well, no
stone fern
but when shit like sprint ef exists on guns and groaners
polar nexus
because you're already shredding maniacs
sterile basalt
terrifying barrage is just bizarre because its on a bunch of weapons that dont n...
No weapon ever needs it
full nebula
just got dd4 for infantry auto from milkman
stone fern
noice
glad wren
How's this model of Chainaxe? I haven't used a Chainaxe yet
polar nexus
i actually enjoyr 5 crit chance and carapace / elites on my ciag
stone fern
melk has only been giving me good t4s for ogryn
rigid jetty
Made my first clutch just now🙏
royal vortex
No weapon ever needs it
they literally slap it on a bunch of shit that already suppresses enemies. like at least u could TRY to make someone want to use this thing if it did something worthwhile
rigid jetty
Courtesy of purgeton flamer and crusher
polar nexus
How's this model of Chainaxe? I haven't used a Chainaxe yet
that's very good
sterile basalt
Now, if terrifying barrage was stagger instead of suppression though…
royal vortex
instead of having like 95% of ppl who use it placebo effect themselves into thinking it does something
stone fern
Made my first clutch just now🙏
walked into an auric today with one guy reviving 2 fresh level 30s
rigid jetty
It aint me im level 12
stone fern
cryostatic if you're seeing this you're a saint i would have left
polar nexus
i would either change the perks on change one blessing (slaughterer maybe) for the thrust, keep unarmored and swap groaners to either elite or carapace
south folio
if only i had terrifying barrage to suppress the groaners around me 😔 https://streamable.com/98p511
rigid jetty
U still hold myself well as it was heresy hi-intensity shock trooper
royal vortex
i dc'd at the start of a lobby and rejoined to a voidstrike psyker angrily saying "you guys need to step your game up"
he acted like a mission commander type dude up until he blew himself up for the 2nd time
and then he got quiet
misty mason
Did you step your game up josho
misty mason
excuses
royal vortex
as per usual 😎
south folio
if only i had terrifying barrage to suppress the groaners around me 😔 https://s...
(notice the shotgun having innate suppression so it doesn't even need terrifying barrage)
coarse birch
if only i had terrifying barrage to suppress the groaners around me 😔 https://s...
Nice name
stone fern
like bruh supression is a core mechanic why have talents that improve it if you just wanna add a blessing that does it anyways
royal vortex
like bruh supression is a core mechanic why have talents that improve it if you ...
its a system that could use some real iteration tbf
south folio
evidently ranged combat was supposed to be more enthralling
royal vortex
i don't think it works super well on the player or enemy side of things
coarse birch
Yeah the entire system is p wack
glad wren
i would either change the perks on change one blessing (slaughterer maybe) for t...
Thank you. I seen a lot of love towards Thrust for many weapons. It's that good?
south folio
though in practice ranged enemies just aren't a threat that people care about, and weapons having suppression anyways
rigid jetty
Quick question for general builds do yall use bolter or flamer more?
sterile basalt
Thank you. I seen a lot of love towards Thrust for many weapons. It's that good?
Thrust is pretty good for Mk12 chainaxe
south folio
either works really, though I'd pair throwing knives with them
royal vortex
Quick question for general builds do yall use bolter or flamer more?
they sort of do different things
there's a lot of overlap if you're using fury of the faithful for armor downgrade
south folio
i lean towards bolter currently because i dislike bulwarks and am running a hordeclear melee (chainsword)
sterile basalt
Quick question for general builds do yall use bolter or flamer more?
Different function & purpose
south folio
but I run flamer if running the combat knife
rigid jetty
Alright, thanks
coarse birch
Uhhhhh bolter bad tho
coarse birch
you're bad
Wtf
stone fern
Quick question for general builds do yall use bolter or flamer more?
i do use botler sometimes but i'm not great with it i use ciag more
coarse birch
Im not in a jar
south folio
you will be
royal vortex
but flamer leads more towards short-to-mid-range density clearing (not exactly hordes, it's really good for huge elite swarms more so than poxwalkers) while bolter has a bit of flexibility in that once you have it out you can kinda snipe guys
unless you're suppressed
south folio
that fate is imminent
royal vortex
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba5123e-790e-4d26-8286-6f5a330d21a1/zealot-like-its-2022?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button i like this build for bolter
left iron
coarse birch
you will be
You wont get that far
left iron
Why are you shoving people into jars again
south folio
why not
left iron
True
south folio
present a 3-page essay argument by the end of the week
no double spaced
with 1.0 spacing
coarse birch
I doubt your ability to read a 3 page essay of mine
royal vortex
w/ either weapon you pretty much need tknives to handle specials
left iron
Thats a lot of time, so not that hard to do tbf
stone fern
present a 3-page essay argument by the end of the week
thats ur job tho
royal vortex
preferably your melee has good maniac damage too
south folio
nuh uh
left iron
Whats the subject of the essay
south folio
the topic is "why arco shouldn't shove people into jars"
stone fern
a jar?
left iron
I will use Alco instead
south folio
should also be written in the language of formal mathematics
stone fern
a mason jar?
polar nexus
Thank you. I seen a lot of love towards Thrust for many weapons. It's that good?
special + thrust4 + carapace / elite should oneshot a crusher
stone fern
oh good god
signal garnet
the topic is "why arco shouldn't shove people into jars"
because it's cringe, eassy done
stone fern
im getting flash backs
south folio
because it's cringe, eassy done
F-
coarse birch
Arco is cringe so him doing things that are cringe checks out sadly
Should i make arco into stans bacon
south folio
this is what will happen to you https://streamable.com/2tit7b
royal vortex
an ancient clip
stone fern
this is what will happen to you https://streamable.com/2tit7b
deleting textures to improve enemy visibiliy is cheating
coarse birch
this is what will happen to you https://streamable.com/2tit7b
Try me
sterile basalt
this is what will happen to you https://streamable.com/2tit7b
You play on -1 texture quality?
south folio
back in the good ol' days
i run it a little higher nowadays so that people stop commenting on the texture quality
coarse birch
back in the good ol' days
when i didnt know arco
south folio
~~when i didnt know arco~~
back in the good ol' days
coarse birch
Textures are for the weak
sterile basalt
i run it a little higher nowadays so that people stop commenting on the texture ...
Does -1 even do much for performance
south folio
probably not
not something i've benchmarked
i'm cpu-bottlenecked anyways
i do it primarily to reduce heat generation since i'm on an ultrathin laptop
sterile basalt
They should add a benchmark feature to this game
south folio
yeah it's a shame that's missing
sterile basalt
i do it primarily to reduce heat generation since i'm on an ultrathin laptop
I have mine mostly at 70~74 Celsius in gameplay
north sedge
royal vortex
yeah it's a shame that's missing
it's a shame you're missing
sterile basalt
Do u play 1080p or lower
stone fern
just play on geforce now
south folio
it's a laptop with an rtx 3050ti so the gpu is doing fine
north sedge
arco should play helldivers 2 (because i want to see what fucking pixar movie he turns it into)
full nebula
is that darktide at home?
south folio
just that the CPU is an APU and power bottlenecked since it's like a 25-40w draw
misty mason
Buzz lightyear
south folio
arco should play helldivers 2 (because i want to see what fucking pixar movie he...
no
i have steam overlay off so i don't know how many frames i'm getting
south folio
but there are noticeable dips during intense scenarios
sterile basalt
i have steam overlay off so i don't know how many frames i'm getting
Nvidia GeForce overlay?
south folio
so whatever the framerate where the human eye can't smoothly interpolate the framerate
i've got that off as well
full nebula
im just not gonna by new games anymore, nothing is optimized on release
south folio
though i have OBS in the background
i at least have a 30-series so that i can just flip DLSS on
full nebula
may as well put it a year in adavance
sterile basalt
so whatever the framerate where the human eye can't smoothly interpolate the fra...
The fsr3 mod I got helped a lot
south folio
frame gen?
i just have nvidia reflex on and that's good enough for me
since i don't particularly care about the perceived frame rate
as long as the input lag is low, i'm fine with it
full nebula
play on like 60 locked?
coarse birch
Arco if you ever get a pc you need to keep your settings
south folio
i have it on 50 capped at the moment
stone fern
i at least have a 30-series so that i can just flip DLSS on
if your laptop has a 30s series it should be good enough regardless
full nebula
i have to play unlocked, when theres ton of explosions i dip from 120-140 to 50
good optimzation
south folio
since that seems like it's barely above the threshold where my brain can see it without feeling like it's a slideshow
coarse birch
Whats your monitor arco
south folio
if your laptop has a 30s series it should be good enough regardless
yeah, p much just constrained by size and power draw
it's a vg248
144hz 1080p
i used to run a desktop with it
coarse birch
Panel?
south folio
TN/LCD i believe
stone fern
yeah, p much just constrained by size and power draw
maybe try debloating windows a bit
south folio
but my laptop is only hdmi 2.0 so i can only get 60fps/1080p
yeah i've got stuff like "shut up windows 10" or whatever it's called
south folio
i reasonably turned off some stuff as much as I can without getting into the dubious tweaks
yeah no dp unfortunately
coarse birch
Sadge
stone fern
i reasonably turned off some stuff as much as I can without getting into the dub...
did you disable full screen optimization?
south folio
i could potentially grab a DP to usbc but the hdmi is good enough for me and i won't be reaching 144hz anyways
full nebula
i have a 3060 laptop and i have to use ultra performance and dlss to get like 100+
even then the average is like 70 with fluxuationm
south folio
p much
i got that set on ultra as well
at least there's the sharpen option to make it look less fuzzy
full nebula
also running 1440 with max textures and subsurface scattering tho
i have a lot of the other shit tuned down tho
coarse birch
I upgraded my monitor and need to test dt settings a bit to see if i can come closer to my refresh rate
south folio
yeah i miss that
north sedge
south folio
i grabbed the monitor since i was originally only playing hl2dm
where i was getting 200fps anyways
coarse birch
Im at 144 rn new monitor is 170 which i prob won't notice
south folio
https://tenor.com/view/swamp-boat-gif-22366772
u know it
i do wonder what high framerate + nvidia reflex feels like
coarse birch
Upgraded for the panel anyway
south folio
must feel pretty damn good
full nebula
youd be surpirsed how much you save just turnning down fog and shadwos and whatnotr
in a game so bad tyope
coarse birch
must feel pretty damn good
Well i dont have it yet
stone fern
swedish optimization smh
sterile basalt
i have it on 50 capped at the moment
I use Nvidia control panel’s NIS to have 1477x831p option, then in-game DLSS with FSR3 frame gen mod
I can get 90 fps with solid visuals on a 15.6” screen
stone fern
for the love of god can they disable models in inventory
full nebula
hmmm
i never actually thought about mods for performance
i might have to look into that
polar nexus
does nvidia reflex hurt perf?
sterile basalt
i never actually thought about mods for performance
The FSR3 mod makes your UI look like it’s being constantly EMP’d
sterile basalt
It’s not native implementation
south folio
and draws mildly more power
fleet zealot
dreaming
south folio
for me it was +3 to +5 more watts than usual
but you get noticeably reduced latency in return
the mild dip in frame rate is worth it, though you're primarily seeing benefits from nvidia reflex if you're GPU-bottlenecked
which is often not the case
you do see a benefit either way so it's nice to just flip on
south folio
😔
darktide's network has been pissing me off more lately because i keep getting randomly DCed
i know that others have had it worse in it
even though they can play other games like helldivers 2 fine
south folio
who are you
south folio
don't talk to me buddy
coarse birch
your not worth naming
royal vortex
y'roue*
full nebula
my problem is a do a whole string of command and it delay sfor a sec then does it all
south folio
https://streamable.com/rywfrm
🥲
full nebula
fucking annyoing in auric
sterile basalt
royal vortex
i love when the game starts randomly shuttering all my swings
my sword becomes cursed
stone fern
ah yes 1477 the standard resolution
sterile basalt
ah yes 1477 the standard resolution
It’s enabled with Nvidia control panel’s NIS setting
full nebula
this is 567322566x16572356 scaled down
royal vortex
i shouldve known when i got the ghost hit
sterile basalt
I went extra mile for optimizing my game to look as good as it could with minimal GPU heat
full nebula
I have an entire external fan set up to keep my gpu as low as possible
coarse birch
https://streamable.com/9faa28
just shout
full nebula
i can keep it like 68 degrees playing auric
north sedge
even though they can play other games like helldivers 2 fine
so arco is getting hd2, huh
south folio
i have my textures set to the extent where you don't notice the downgrade if you're blurring your eyes, but you'd definitely notice it if you concentrate
south folio
so arco is getting hd2, huh
why don't you get a cat
royal vortex
just shout
so that the game can also give me a ghost ult
very wise.
when the swedes want u dead theres nothing u can do
coarse birch
i have my textures set to the extent where you don't notice the downgrade if you...
do you look at your screen cross eyed
royal vortex
i pushed my luck today by looking at texts when 2 ppl were downed in a horde with a bunch of specials spawning
but it worked out
south folio
e.g., this is what mines looks like
minor bluff
south folio
do you look at your screen cross eyed
maybe
misty mason
i pushed my luck today by looking at texts when 2 ppl were downed in a horde wit...
doesnt sound like youve stepped up your game
fair igloo
when the swedes want u dead theres nothing u can do
the swedes randomly deciding to give u divine judgement
south folio
my prescription is a bit outdated and i unfocus my eyes occasionally when playing
royal vortex
doesnt sound like youve stepped up your game
doesnt matter when that dude fell down the fkin stairs
and did not get back up
south folio
you bastard
left iron
misty mason
Josho out here throwing old men down stairs
coarse birch
josho would throw a lot of people down the stairs
fair igloo
also pigs cant wear glasses or something
royal vortex
major dps bro
fair igloo
it was ma jor dps. he has never seen it before
misty mason
Actually it was Colonel Dps
royal vortex
i aspire to be like the level 400 psyker with a wound who blows himself up twice in a match
and fears the mighty plague ogryn
coarse birch
wait a minute
royal vortex
ender of runs
south folio
you should strive higher and be like me
royal vortex
i am not a pig
coarse birch
i am all that is left
north sedge
https://streamable.com/rcbewu
o wow how u kill boss so fast
royal vortex
o wow how u kill boss so fast
install my aimbot
south folio
its so sad seeing voidstrike players who arent good with it
players cramming too many braincells into a weapon that only requires 1
coarse birch
1 is too much
royal vortex
dude was the tactical commander
he did that thing where he demands ppl use the medicae
north sedge
the funny part is im like "wow that plogryn is really staying alive a while"
royal vortex
i hit him with a vacuum capsule and he didnt respond
south folio
should've typed it out in chat
misty nova
the swedes randomly deciding to give u divine judgement
You failed the clutch check
fair igloo
i aspire to be like the level 400 psyker with a wound who blows himself up twice...
i blew myself up twice earlier today in a mission and now this makes me feel horrible 😭 😭
royal vortex
its not just the being bad
its the being bad and then trying to tell other ppl how to play
fair igloo
You failed the clutch check
fatshark wouldn't let me throw the heavy it just kept making me hold it until the flamer kicked me 💔
coarse birch
i wont lie you can be like good and tell me how to play and i still dont really like it
unless it makes sense
royal vortex
if ur gonna be mr squad leader dude and attempt to lead the squad i would hope u know what the fk ur doin
this guy was just like
plague ogryn... time to run
fair igloo
idc how good or bad a player is as long as they aren't trying to affect other ppl's experiences
north sedge
he's not cool like the bubba shrimp guy
royal vortex
that dude was just fkin funny
BLASTING my ears during a clutch with motivational speeches
left iron
fair igloo
i played with a psyker earlier that got rescued and then took so long to rescue me that a bomber threw a grenade on me and then he died to a mixed horde
after i got rescued and he respawned at the rescue site for the 2nd time he went "BRO CAN YOU REZ??" when i was in the middle of brainbursting a sniper in the distance 😭
south folio
get this man a cat
royal vortex
i played with a psyker earlier that got rescued and then took so long to rescue ...
stare at him
spam voicelines
walk away
coarse birch
i probably dont need a cat
fair igloo
"va
vavavavavacuum capsule"
south folio
vacuum capsule
royal vortex
i do it to pub knife zealots who try and fail to speedrun
i got blocked by one for it
misty mason
But can you rezz bro
royal vortex
(i was honored)
coarse birch
it is time to do something other than fight the same boss for an eternity
this feels wrong
royal vortex
i require ordo dockets
coarse dagger
they speedrun alright
speedrun to their doom, hamster style
royal vortex
the one i did it to waited until we hit a boss trigger and then tried to run away
and i hit him with some choice words
left iron
i got blocked by one for it
You havent yet been kicked because you killed everything and the rest of the team didnt get to play the game
Get on my level
coarse birch
it is thrust headtaker achlys psyker time
polar nexus
i just had an update
coarse birch
arco will be pleased
royal vortex
😔
fair igloo
hi in prison
south folio
josho has invaded me
coarse birch
playing with josho is a better fate than i have subjected myself to for the last 3 days
royal vortex
coarse dagger
josho has invaded me
better get that checked out
coarse birch
it threw me off too
south folio
too bad
royal vortex
my zealot comes from a long line of dope bitches
south folio
crime by "i assumed what you were thinking about my appearance"
royal vortex
u cannot compare to his swaggery
coarse birch
i hope you fall down the stairs in front of someone you want to impress
coarse dagger
that's how you slay
coarse birch
not you josho
south folio
left iron
coarse birch
ok your graphics do not help lmao
south folio
they definitely help
royal vortex
bro is a ps2 character
south folio
i wish the moebian armour didn't have the gloves
north sedge
even though this is actually from the game your graphics make it look like the Spirit Halloween version of darktide
south folio
why is your zealot made of wax
why don't we talk about the person whose zealot has actively-lit candles on their shoulder
left iron
Your zealot is the candle
south folio
idk what spirit halloween is and i'm glad to not know
fair igloo
When you walk into bomber and flamer fire do u start melting
does ur head get deformed while wax droplets form on the sides
left iron
Not very, i have tried
fair igloo
wtf does any of tha tmean 😭
coarse dagger
gotta do a field test
left iron
He is wondering whether or not im flammable, and i gave my conclusions that i am not very flammable based on earlier experiences
fair igloo
ohhhh
coarse dagger
try again to be sure
burnt bobcat
what would yall say are minimum revolver stats to be worth upgrading the revolver?
70 on dmg, pen, and crit?
hushed knoll
He is wondering whether or not im flammable, and i gave my conclusions that i am...
BI ICE
HI*
coarse dagger
Haha bi ice
left iron
coarse birch
Lmao
spare talon
someone help me
south folio
no
spare talon
im playing lies of p again
left iron
No
spare talon
ive literally already 100% the game
left iron
Shush Alco
south folio
who's alco
spare dome
inadvertently did a two man pug of dreyko hounds
was fun
we both had bolter evis
and our outfits were snazzy
misty mason
Is lies of p where you think you don't need to wizz then you get into bed and realise you need to wizz?
polar nexus
i think my favorite minigame in dt is stimming other people
glad wren
@polar nexus
I took your advice on what to switch. This Chainaxe model is amazing.
I did a trial on Hersey. Is very useful against Crushers
misty mason
Dodging enemies 
Dodging stims
polar nexus
don't forget to chastise after the first hit when you rev with a chain weapon
so that the entirety of the chain crits
you can still go back to slaughterer later if you want but ht+slaughterer is better suited for the mk 4 in my experience
polar nexus
Dodging enemies <:thumbsdown_ogryn:1063457066603249784>
Dodging stims <:thumbsu...
i am an expert at dosing people
sterile basalt
Of course after rolling 6 evicerators to gold the only IV blessing I don’t yet have is the bloodthirsty (which I want)
polar nexus
one year later.... i got thrust 4 on thammer
sterile basalt
Guess I’ll cope with shred IV
polar nexus
i only waited 6 months for slaughterer 4
have faith
i just got shred 4 for evis today in the store
north sedge
Double ratatouille
neat hound
hey guys, working on gear improvements on my zealot. I'm chain sword melee with the zarona revolver that I pull out for any big guys or ranged threats to pick off with quick headshots. What blessings/perks should I be looking for?
coarse birch
hey guys, working on gear improvements on my zealot. I'm chain sword melee with ...
Surgical hand cannon for revo and flak/maniac
neat hound
I usually only use it for larger enemies, wouldn't carapace or unyielding be better than flak?
Do gunners count as flak? I use it for gunners/snipers, the armored ragers, ogryns, and monstrosities
vast basin
dreg gunners are flak torso, mostly unarmoured. scab gunners are almost all flak
left iron
god I wish stormvermin were better
Basegame stormvermin do be sad
Mine currently have Chosen levels of mdef and matk
vast basin
good perks for zarona are maniac/unarmoured or maniac/flak. elites probably works too
maniac gives you that juicy one hit flamer headshot without a crit
neat hound
that's what I just rolled up... my old pistol isn't that good and already one shots flamers, trappers, gunners, snipers, and ragers
so the biggest concern I feel like is the ogryn enemies and monstrosities. I think the ogryns and monstrosities are all unyielding? Do the monstrosities count as unarmored?
sorry, I'm still trying to learn this game and what bonuses/modifiers apply to what enemies, so it is all a bit confusing
fleet zealot
side eye
fleet zealot
so the biggest concern I feel like is the ogryn enemies and monstrosities. I thi...
monstros and ogryns are unyielding, besides armor bits they may have
hushed knoll
Mine currently have Chosen levels of mdef and matk
Ice why are you not in bedge
neat hound
lol
neat hound
alright, fair enough
just trying to wrap my head around this and make sure I customize this weapon properly
been grinding all last week to get resources back up to pay for the upgrades
don't want to mess it up
left iron
Ice why are you not in bedge
Because these goddamn elves aint gonna genocide themselves
hushed knoll
Because these goddamn elves aint gonna genocide themselves <a:cat_stare:96415122...
What game are you playing 
left iron
vast radish
my new hammer is so much better than the old one
misty mason
Step 1 - Start Skarbrand
vast radish
I can actually one-shot crushers with crits!
misty mason
There is no step 2
vast basin
you act like that is just a skarbrand thing
misty mason
One of my favourite races to play and my absolute least favourite to play against
hushed knoll
What you should be doing is going to bedge 
fleet zealot
Step 1 - Start Skarbrand
skarbrand sucks valkia better
all the good stuff about playing khorne and chaos, none of the weird shit skarbrand has to deal with
vast basin
valkia's bloodletting is ass compared to skarbrand
i'd like to see valkia get a turn 8 ultimate victory
left iron
Valkia can recruit wizards so not actually a Khornate faction
maiden path
holey shit im so badass looking
fleet zealot
i'd like to see valkia get a turn 8 ultimate victory
i don't play tw3 to think i'm a grimgor main
vast basin
what does grimgor have to do with this?
left iron
It is upgrade time
fleet zealot
what does grimgor have to do with this?
i like things simple
skarbrand makes me think too much
too fast
vast basin
well think less, smash more
fleet zealot
valkia i start in a good spot, I can build up and snowball
skarbrand I start in the fucking rumble ring of pain and I do one mess up cause i'm not a strategy player i'm fucked
he feels like he is balanced around people who are chronically high APM and need stim toys
vast basin
well he is essentially just a chariot, so yes
fleet zealot
i think my last skarbrand campaign every one of my neighbors declared war on me on the same turn and I just got ganged
vast basin
yeah generally you want to be the one declaring war as skarbrand
fleet zealot
i see
vast basin
simply steamrolling the faction as soon as you encounter them
you dont really want to hold that much territory as skarbrand
fleet zealot
see i'm like, grimgor was my love in tw2 when i started
bset boy, face smash keyboard, conquer, expand, get black ork doomstack
vast basin
I think taurox is a fun one for that
vast basin
taurox gorebull doomstack is good fun
and the fact you can just ignore supply lines, upkeep, and control is pretty nice
fleet zealot
yee4
i think that's it
i don't like their tempo it's too fast for me, even tho i thought i would like taurox and skarbrand
also I like making an empire/land grabs, even if it's an empire of teef
misty mason
Tbh I think vamps and high elves are still my fav
fleet zealot
vamps are nice
misty mason
Vamps have a kinda dated campaign tho
fleet zealot
never got into high elves, i just don't like their thematic
misty mason
Counter argument, sisters of avelorn
vast basin
averlorn is my favorite faction to empire build as
insane control and income, endless armies and diplomacy
burnt bobcat
wtf
misty mason
Tbh tho, lothern seaguard are the true GOATs
polar nexus
just trying to wrap my head around this and make sure I customize this weapon pr...
surgical instead of trickshooter and well, whatever instead of groaners, i like elite or carapace. Unyielding can work too but i prefer melee them if i have a revolver
polar nexus
What game are you playing <:acid_do_mathematics:684519255798185991>
it's a shame you're a Stan and not a Dan
you could have been Spider Toe Dan or STD