zealot-class

[zealous basin]

why does it have to look like that

[placid fiber]

What's funny about that specific item is it gives me something to make up for my poor visual perception making me not see things :3

I mean... if I didn't have this terrible vision I probably wouldn't take that item due ot how it just more or less breaks a lot of the game :/

sigh the ability to nearly stop item by just not moving does not make up for when you run over a trap as it is going off lol

[ivory marlin]

Guys

I should buy more mtg cards

[zealous basin]

u definitely should not

[lusty turtle]

[ivory marlin]

No

[placid fiber]

@ivory marlin Just get yourself one of these guns. I did a video showing it was, indeed, more or less a full auto rocket launcher <.<

[ivory marlin]

Listen

I have reasons

[lusty turtle]

bad reasons

[zealous basin]

homie met a cute girl who plays mtg

[lusty turtle]

im not listening

[ivory marlin]

I so wish

[placid fiber]

Did you see that full auto rocket launcher, Skele? :3

[zealous basin]

yeah everyone knows no cute girls play mtg

[ivory marlin]

Please

[zealous basin]

well i mean no cute boys do either

[ivory marlin]

The fallout cards

[lusty turtle]

i did not and probably will not,i do not play gungeon

[ivory marlin]

And the aetherborn

[lusty turtle]

🙉

[ivory marlin]

So many new sets

So many cool sets

I cant quit now

Not when its getting this good

[lusty turtle]

buy a set and i ban you, its that simple

[ivory marlin]

💀

[lusty turtle]

im helping you recover

[ivory marlin]

Can i fight this in court?

[placid fiber]

I'm not shilling Enter the Gungeon, I'm specifically shilling one of the guns from it since it is a full auto rocket launcher with 20 ammo in the mag. :3

[ivory marlin]

What if

We slowly ease into it

[lusty turtle]

sure, incan can be the judge and you can have josho and yoshi as the jury

[ivory marlin]

So like

[lusty turtle]

thats still gungeon tho

[ivory marlin]

I buy the precons i want and a few more cards

And then i “stop”

[placid fiber]

I don't want you to buy gungeon, I just want to show you how awesome a full auto rocket launcher can be. :3

[lusty turtle]

i know but im not interested sry

[lusty turtle]

[ivory marlin]

Ill be good

Ill save my money for other things

Like warhammer

[placid fiber]

That's perfectly fine. That's just one of my favorite guns, based on how it feels to fire it. :3

[ivory marlin]

And gas money

[drowsy steppe]

This is where I come in and stop you from making terrible investments

[ivory marlin]

Guys

Please

[lusty turtle]

[ivory marlin]

I need this

[drowsy steppe]

No you do not

[ivory marlin]

A new pre con is coming out called make trash do smash!!!!!!

I cant skip that

Its raccoon wizards

[placid fiber]

Sorry for pestering you about it, tho, Skele. I just really love firing that gun >_>'

[lusty turtle]

[drowsy steppe]

Do not let FOMO take over your mind Jakey

[ivory marlin]

Thats way low quality one sec

[lusty turtle]

thats fine phil just bare in mind its a DT discord so some people might not be interested in discussin other topics brought up

[drowsy steppe]

Oh nah

Is that rocket

[lusty turtle]

especially in class chats where the main topic is supposed to be classes

[drowsy steppe]

💀

[lusty turtle]

or in this case saving jake from themselves

[ivory marlin]

Better quality

How am i supposed to skip this

[drowsy steppe]

He has gazed the abyss of mtg cards far too long

[ivory marlin]

It’s literally raccoon wizards

[ivory marlin]

I’ve been playing warframe just as long

[placid fiber]

sigh After playing gungeon with that 1 gun I was talking about... I now kinda want a full auto rocket launcher in Darktide for the lulz >.>'

[lusty turtle]

given WoTC track record i wonder if its ai generated raccoon wizards

[ivory marlin]

The set also has this really cute lizard man

[placid fiber]

And know what? Turn ff on for it, for the memes, since it would be omega stupid anyway xD

[drowsy steppe]

Oh yeah wasn't one of the pictures they used was AI generated?

[ivory marlin]

No clue

Guys

[drowsy steppe]

No

[ivory marlin]

Please

[drowsy steppe]

Do not buy rocket from gotg

[ivory marlin]

What am i supposed to spend my money on

Not mtg?

Thats cringe

What if a new tezzeret comes out

[lusty turtle]

an entire D&D rulebook used ai gen art : )

[ivory marlin]

I have all of them

Jesus

[drowsy steppe]

Amazing

DnD art kinda fell off anyways

[lusty turtle]

dnd fell off

[ivory marlin]

Yall seen the fallout mtg cards?

[drowsy steppe]

Nope

[ivory marlin]

They got some hella cool ones

[lusty turtle]

nor do i want to

[ivory marlin]

I only planned on buying the mothman precon cuz the boosters are 40$ and thats crazy

[lusty turtle]

....

and how much is the precon?

[drowsy steppe]

Imagine what you can do with just 40$ and a hungry belly

[ivory marlin]

50 and it comes with 101 cards + 1 booster

So like

Way better

And the resell for the cards I don’t want from the precon i want are like 10$ each

Might buy the dogmeat card too i think its only like 5 cents rn

[ivory marlin]

I fully agree that 40$ for 7 cards is crazy

Im not gonna buy any of the boosters

Boosters are too expensive

[lusty turtle]

FOR 7 CARDS

[ivory marlin]

They used to be 5$ for 15 cards and nows it like 8$ for 10

[ivory marlin]

Yeah

Most resell for only like 50 cents too

Unless you get a serialized one

Then its a couple hundred

But still not worth it

[drowsy steppe]

Yeah maybe it's worth saving the money other than only getting 7 cards

[ivory marlin]

Regular boosters have more than “universes beyond” boosters

[drowsy steppe]

Instead of getting 40 cards

[ivory marlin]

But cost less

Nah the boosters aren’t worth it

Ill buy a precon then wait for the cards i want to drop in price

I have other stuff to worry about wasting money on

40$ for 7 cards is too far for me

Oops

Now anyways

Im also gonna stop scouting out the more expensive versions of cards just cuz they look cool

A 5$ card i want is 45 for its full art

And that shit crazy

[tawny linden]

Hi hi, quick Q, is this worth getting as a fresh 30 zealot?

I have like 6.3k marks rn

[placid fiber]

It's a bit mediocre

the shredder, damage, and cleave targets are a bit low-ish

not like bad but

um just slightly low

the blessings and perks tho I think you can work with since you just change wrath and damage to poxwalkers/groaners

[placid fiber]

That would at least be an early mostly solid weapon, tho, if it is for a fresh lvl 30

[tawny linden]

https://tenor.com/view/babe-pig-piggy-thatll-do-pig-thatll-do-gif-5119238

What I'm hearing:

[placid fiber]

https://imgur.com/WZlIezq

[tawny linden]

I forgot the master of man gave me this for my graduation:

I have 12 hours to think on the eviscerator

[mental notch]

Does flechette blessing work on kantrael shotgun when using the secondary ammo?

I assume it does but I just wanna make sure

[fading vale]

Up to like 3 targets per pellet

[drifting wolf]

davinky

[slate notch]

Have anyone tried a build without keystones? Is it any worth/fun enough to try?

[storm crypt]

What would you take instead of a keystone?

[ember yew]

all 3 keystones works great, not picking any of them is just gimping yourself

its not a veteran

and most routes allows you to pick the best stuff anyway

[storm crypt]

Zealots tree is really good, but the keystones are definitely better than getting a few extra things in it

[slate notch]

Yeah I know it's not a veteran, is just if anyone tried and you can take something good out of it. After 800+ hours of playing the game with no new content a man has to look for something new to try

[storm crypt]

IMO if you did that, you’d just be playing every Zealot build but worse

Not taking crit key just means less cdr, not taking martyrdom means less brain cells lost per hour, not taking momentum less burst

And you just don’t really gain enough for it

[north sedge]

just play other things and dip back in when update hits

[storm crypt]

Yeah, if you’re getting exhausted with Darktide, just take a break.

[slate notch]

Well, I don't want to lose more brain cells, so that's something positive. +1 to no keystone build

I'm not exhausted actually, I still love playing it, is just a way to try something new and maybe find something good that was hidden. I guess this is not the case

[ember yew]

Usually people go and start to use non-meta weapons and enjoying themselves as perverts with something like Tactical axes, for me Knife is quite fun no matter how much you play it, tho horde clear isn't the best.

[storm crypt]

The faster I lose my brain cells in a mission the better I must mash left click in a horde

[slate notch]

Oh I already did the tactical axes! I don't they're that bad, I mean, they're not good either, but not that that bad

[harsh wren]

have you tried melee blazing spirit psyker yet

[ember yew]

I tested them a few days ago and Atrox MK4 was pretty good, but the others felt underwhelming

especially 6 or 7 (forgot number) which has strange last swing that whiff 50% of the time

[harsh wren]

like keystoneless zealot it's not amazing, but it is there.

[onyx lodge]

got bricked a little but still

[ember yew]

probably would be better to ignore perks and get Surgical too

[slate notch]

hmmm I don't think so, I have been playing my psyker a lot recently but mostly the not so original bubble + illisi + surge

[storm crypt]

Yeah

[onyx lodge]

the perk was juist terrrible and i dont have surgical

[storm crypt]

Unless you use crit keystone then its okay

[ember yew]

[storm crypt]

It’s over

[onyx lodge]

oh no, it works quite well

[slate notch]

VII is bugged and does a swing that hits nothing and is just stupid. IV is actually pretty good, a bland mix between a rashad and knife but pretty fun imo

[ember yew]

yeah

and another one

i forgot which 2 or 5

is just a bit worse than 4

[slate notch]

2, yeah

[ember yew]

so im gonna get 4 with Flak/Maniac with Headtaker/Shred

since BM probably wouldn't be that good due to its vertical patterns

[slate notch]

Let me show you my IV, works fine

[ember yew]

yeah, i want to test non-bm one

[slate notch]

Tried decimator instead BM too, both are ok

[obtuse stirrup]

The trouble with that is, what does it even really proc on

If you crit with a force sword, vast majority of times your target is dead

And doesn't even get to spread via wildfire (which is already pretty bad)

[harsh wren]

i wasn't saying it was good lol

just that it exists.

much like zealot with no keystone lol

[obtuse stirrup]

I mean keystoneless zealot is even worse lmao, might as well fill talents in from the top

Think Veteran is the only one where keystoneless makes sense for a grenadier

Because veteran talent tree is bloated as fuck

[stone fern]

zealot top isnt close to vet top

theres scourge enduring faith purge the unclean

vet only has longshot

what i'm saying is zealots have best top

[frozen glen]

zealots can be good at bottom too

[verbal marlin]

Quick question: extra Power also adds extra Rending, correct?

[stone fern]

zealots are very versatile while vets are only bottom heavy

[verbal marlin]

What's better for knife: Uncanny Strike or Executor?

[royal vortex]

so true

[south folio]

only damage, cleave, and stagger

[drowsy steppe]

No power is damage cleave and stagger

[south folio]

nothing to do with rending

[drowsy steppe]

Rending can buff your DOT though

[verbal marlin]

Ah ok

[drowsy steppe]

Uncanny is BiS knife blessing

[royal vortex]

arco answer my dm

immediately

[frozen glen]

where is the cat

[south folio]

I gave you an answer

[nimble fiber]

[royal vortex]

soon™️

it is the day of cattening

[frozen glen]

procure images immediately

it is of utmost importance

[verbal marlin]

What's the reasoning? I don't doubt it, just don't currently understand.

[obtuse stirrup]

Uncanny is BiS blessing on everything it appears on

[south folio]

easy stacks and a damage boost to 4 armour types

[obtuse stirrup]

the reason for it is

that

rending gud

[drowsy steppe]

It buffs your damage against all armor types that's not infested and unarmored

[south folio]

lemme get out of bed and pull up the nunbers

[obtuse stirrup]

it buffs against infested and unarmoured too, just less

iirc

1/4 scaling

[verbal marlin]

Ahhhh I see, tyvm!

[lusty turtle]

frank is going to barrel a cat

this is fucked up

[south folio]

no

[stone fern]

really

[nimble fiber]

that is indeed fucked up

[south folio]

doesn't affect unarmored and infested at all

[drowsy steppe]

And at max stacks you pretty much deal full damage against Crushers

[obtuse stirrup]

Eh, ok

[royal vortex]

i would never

[obtuse stirrup]

So hitting overflow rending actually makes armour weaker than unarmoured?

[lusty turtle]

you would, you monster

[sterile basalt]

No, rending has no effect vs unarmored & infested

[south folio]

yeah in quite a few cases

[lusty turtle]

playing ogryn has changed you as a person

[sterile basalt]

Yes

[nimble fiber]

[lusty turtle]

armour is (generally) weaker anyway due to healthpool differences

i want them to change this

[obtuse stirrup]

Unintuitive but good to know

[south folio]

this was a table i made when comparing precog so just ignore that column

[royal vortex]

nuh uh

[ember yew]

you want them to buff HP?

[south folio]

i didn't include maniac cuz i didn't want to bother having to test it

so you basically just rumble carapace with +uncanny

also depends on the knife

on the mk3 knife, i would not bring executor

[lusty turtle]

i want them to nerf rending and change ADMs so you do more damage into unarmoured than into flak

[obtuse stirrup]

Precognition is the longer duration one or the shorter?

[frozen glen]

what about maniac numbers arco

[south folio]

the 2 second +finesse one

[frozen glen]

where are the maniac numbers

[south folio]

up ur bum

[frozen glen]

i need maniac calculations

[south folio]

up ur bum

[ember yew]

nah

[drowsy steppe]

2 bottoms insulting each other over who's more bottom

Wow

[south folio]

u mean 1 bottom (them being red)

[drowsy steppe]

No I meant 2

[south folio]

you're the ceo of being wrong then

[drowsy steppe]

[ember yew]

forgot to change maniac to unyelding, this knife been collecting dust for 3 months

fck precog 2 seconds timer anyway

[south folio]

trajedy

[drowsy steppe]

For knife my 2nd blessing would be precog over anything else

[drowsy steppe]

trajedy

[south folio]

i rate riposte over only cuz of scourge

[ember yew]

NOMERCY is fun

and the Sound Effect knife

shwing shwing

[drowsy steppe]

Knives does indeed have the coolest animations

[ember yew]

my next test target is this one

tho i would like to get headtaker version

for bosses/single target where you cant stack sht

[frozen glen]

u lost this argument the moment u had to use parentheses

[royal vortex]

parentheses are a core part of communication

do not slander them

[obtuse stirrup]

a core part of communication (for bottoms)

[south folio]

poor red's existence is withering away at the sight of parentheses

[south folio]

no.

[obtuse stirrup]

(it is)

[south folio]

no.

[obtuse stirrup]

(yes)

[south folio]

no.

[drowsy steppe]

Oh lawd

[frozen glen]

arco denying the bottom allegations to make sure he isnt a bottom

which he is

[royal vortex]

bottom of the barrel

some sort of vermin perhaps

[frozen glen]

that's toxic and rude

mods. take his cat

[south folio]

i'm not the bottom of anything

[frozen glen]

yet

[south folio]

why would anyone take the cat when we can let josho have the burden of having to take care of it

whilst we sit on the sidelines and enjoy the cat pics

foolish fool

[royal vortex]

perish

[drowsy steppe]

Ayo new cat in the chat?

[south folio]

josho is about to have a cat as his profile pic

a new phase in his life

[lusty turtle]

josho is becoming a cat boy?

[south folio]

indeed

[hushed knoll]

HELLO ILY

[coarse dagger]

stan spotted

[rocky marsh]

📌

[sonic zodiac]

i must say the aagripina shotgun grew on me

[coarse dagger]

that's the big slug one right

where it blows up groups

[sonic zodiac]

yay it's the slug one, the Kanteral is the dragonbreath one (wich is still my favorite)

[umbral kindle]

Someone say cat PFP?

[coarse dagger]

Mrow?

[hushed knoll]

[royal vortex]

whats wrong with that

[hushed knoll]

THE 1 MILLION SHOES

[hushed knoll]

Arco isn’t the bottom of the bottom

Barrel

[rocky marsh]

howdo you know those are feet and not hands
What if those are gloves

[royal vortex]

u havent seen him at his worst

[hushed knoll]

Caterpillars can’t wear gloves

[hushed knoll]

Have you?

[royal vortex]

i have

he quacked at me

menacingly

[rocky marsh]

who said that

[hushed knoll]

So you’re threatened by a fuck?

Weak sauce

DU K

DUCK

[hushed knoll]

Everyone

[royal vortex]

now ur bullying me wtf stan

[rocky marsh]

stan going get cancelled for victim blaming

[rocky marsh]

no proof :p

[hushed knoll]

I would never buy you

BULLY

COME ON PHONE

[royal vortex]

😭

im that undesirable

[hushed knoll]

WAIT actually that’s a complement

It means I want to spare you from slavers

Slavery

[royal vortex]

u wouldnt buy me to free me from slavery

u would just leave me at the slave market

[hushed knoll]

What

[rocky marsh]

🐭

[hushed knoll]

If I bought you why would I free you

[rocky marsh]

you buy him so you can free him

[royal vortex]

because u disagree with the immoral act of slavery

[hushed knoll]

I do

But like my lawn also needs cutting

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[hushed knoll]

Moral dilemma

[royal vortex]

fair point

[rocky marsh]

josho worth less than stan's uncut lawn

[hushed knoll]

I have allergies

[rocky marsh]

[royal vortex]

💅

u get it girl

[quartz obsidian]

Guys which build are u playing?

[royal vortex]

Slaaaay(ve)

[hushed knoll]

[south folio]

blazing piety chainsword

[royal vortex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aed3ae9-79e3-4f49-a703-887458284211/crushin-revised?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

this is my most played build on zealot

[hushed knoll]

Hi Arco please don’t let some people treat you badly

You are loved

You are tenured

Treasured

[south folio]

damn i got tenure 😎

[coarse dagger]

Tenured too

[hushed knoll]

No not tenured

[south folio]

wtf

[hushed knoll]

We will probably excess you

[south folio]

you're taking it away from me

[coarse dagger]

no he gets tenure

[hushed knoll]

Still know you are loved

[south folio]

you sick bastard

[hushed knoll]

💅

[south folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/772475843510796320.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[coarse dagger]

💄

[hushed knoll]

No.

[umbral kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-looking-at-camera-gif-6865596869770991662

[humble dome]

bruh zealot stealth knife combo is something else xd

i love it

[nimble fiber]

[sharp zodiac]

Gao

Hah

[umbral kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/penis-intro-dubstep-gif-25553338

[sonic zodiac]

I came here for zealot builds, and i got memes and cat pics... I love it in here

[balmy meteor]

Question: If I have +30% toughness regeneration on Curios, what does that affect? I have the “Enemies Within, Enemies Without” talent to replenish 2.5% toughness while within 5 meters of at least 3 enemies, would this number go up? Or some other number? Just not sure

[dreamy drift]

It reduces the time it takes your toughness to start regenerating by 30%

[balmy meteor]

Oh interesting. I was curious because I had all 3 curios with +30% and I didn’t notice a difference at all lmao

[ripe quest]

It affects coherency regen, which is a separate independent toughness regen mechanic.

It reduces the time before it starts regening, and how fast you regen toughness.

[dreamy drift]

Was about to say...I'm unsure if it also increases the rate of regeneration

[ripe quest]

If you have a meaningful amount of Toughness (coherency regen is a flat amount per second) EWEW will have about the same effect on Toughness regen, and it'll be up while enemies are near you. Coherency regen will shut off when melee enemies are attempting to target you at close range.

[balmy meteor]

So coherency regen will halt, but EWEW will not? Seems pretty valuable when put that way, but the extra +30% on the Curios seems a bit of a waste at that point

[ripe quest]

EWEW is it's own toughness regen buff that's active while enemies are near, coherency regen is something that everyone has. The +30% TRS on curios is a lot less impactful than it initially seems. It has some niche uses but is better utilized w/ Ogryn.

[balmy meteor]

Sounds about right. Thanks for the wisdom!

[ripe quest]

@sterile stone

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/fBf-Nwhm3KQ?si=4cSkpveELOs5q2bq
https://youtu.be/iPToXB8HcSs?si=DH0KHCtM_CNLwgUI

new DF album

[nimble fiber]

couldn't even remember that this happened yesterday

[obtuse stirrup]

Remind me sorry, best perks on the eviscerator XV?

[nimble fiber]

flak/unyielding?
maybe, not 100% sure but thats what I would put on it

[coarse dagger]

I personally use carapace/unyielding or carapace/flak

[sterile basalt]

“Toughness regeneration” specifically refers to coherency toughness regeneration

And the coherency toughness regen delay currently bugged to be associated with the length of the death animation of the last slot-occupying enemy

At 3s (not affected by anything)

Coherency toughness regeneration rate (from curios) only affect the toughness regeneration value from coherency

I wouldn’t recommend relying on it as a zealot

[ripe quest]

This is a somewhat misleading comment. The slot occupation that delays coherency regen until it is empty counts enemies in their death animation as an active enemy still. It's not even much of a bug, just a quirk of how the system works from my understanding. The time it takes for the slot to empty varies on said death animation.

[sterile basalt]

Figured as much since hitmarker sounds still play when enemies are already dead but u can hit them as they drop

But yea that 3s delay is unaffected by toughness regen rate from curios or talents

[ripe quest]

TRS affects the toughness regen delay. The death animation issue is it's own thing.

[sterile basalt]

Oh it does? Hm

Lemme change that

Thx

[obtuse stirrup]

Ok, so

Which of these should I use? I can get shred 4 and rampage 4 onto both

I guess the former since the latter ends up being stuck with flak/elites

Yeah, the shredder stat isn't worth that I guess

boom, done

[austere grail]

Beautiful

Need that for my crit build

[obtuse stirrup]

Using this with chorus and blazing piety

figure it doesn't need much help killing shit so I can afford to not take fury of the faithful

so I just turn murder into invulns

I hope I don't regret not having flak lmao

but if so I can still just change carapace to it

[ember yew]

i would use flak instead of carapace, unless it's the case of personal carapace hate

carapace is for BT use for oneshot chains

[obtuse stirrup]

Does it affect bruiser breakpoints?

if not I'll probably keep carapace, otherwise I'll swap to flak

[ember yew]

since most shit are flak, you are just boosting your damage

[obtuse stirrup]

Multi-crusher packs are dangerous though

[austere grail]

I dont think 25% will let you get a breakooint

[obtuse stirrup]

one less swing to kill makes a big difference with those

[ember yew]

but without BT you aren't getting much from it

you are probably better just to chastice and ranged

at this point

[obtuse stirrup]

I want an excuse to use chorus

[ember yew]

[obtuse stirrup]

my crusher and heavy sword both use fury

it's great, it's fun, I like it

but want something different for this

[austere grail]

Chorus spam is fun

[obtuse stirrup]

maybe I do go back to flak since I can just chorus when the crushers come

[austere grail]

How many swings does that take to kill the flak helmet dudes

3?

[spare dome]

https://youtu.be/zIK1Vn6Va3w?si=0tA3xFhoPcWArIpK

[obtuse stirrup]

I'll find out next time I play zealot on monday

Tomorrow is ogryn day

[sterile stone]

I will find all of you

And replace your pillows with soggy loafs of bread

Multiple in a pillow case if needed

[north sedge]

hell of a stan threat

[radiant nacelle]

wait there's a second eviscerator now? Which is the generally better one? Or do they do different things?

[north sedge]

new one is more single target focused

[radiant nacelle]

Is the difference in cleave significant?

[stone fern]

aaaaaaaaa what the hell did you have to do for hadron for that

[obtuse stirrup]

XV cleaves very easily but has a 4 target damage cap

[obtuse stirrup]

Learned how to tell what way up to put in a USB without having to try it

[stone fern]

😰

[nimble fiber]

[stone fern]

d-did you have to dock?

[radiant nacelle]

Wait really? That's messed up. So II is generally superior for cleave?

[obtuse stirrup]

Yeah, a bit

The XV still cleaves well enough though

And it does heavies for single target, which means a revved heavy

So it fucking murders enemy ogryn

[radiant nacelle]

Well that's a good thing

I'm glad they're comaprable then, I hate obviously better options

Ty!

[obtuse stirrup]

XV is way better for beginners too

Probably the best beginner zealot weapon

Since it's all lights or all heavies and deals with Carapace well

[ripe quest]

mmm

no

[nimble fiber]

yoooooo wtf I was not prepared for the ending of the 4th episode

[frozen glen]

ant cheeks

[ripe quest]

Out of all of the weapons that fill the roles of simple, potent, and a generalist the Caxe, either Antax or Rashad, fit it best. Close followup would be the Chainsword just out of sheer crowd damage absurdity and a very simple setup.

[obtuse stirrup]

Axes with that specific blessing at least

[nimble fiber]

||red looks like he could eat 10 whole pieces of cheese while fighting a squirrel that can speak spanish||

[obtuse stirrup]

Easier to meet the mark on zealot than on veteran with it at least

Which chainsword do you mean though?

[ripe quest]

It's a blessing that works at near 100% capacity with any tier. You can buy one from the store for a couple thousand ordos if you look somewhat persistently.

[obtuse stirrup]

I haven't tried the XIIIg yet, but I think the XV Evis is easier than the IV Assault

[ripe quest]

Either one, both are absurd for crowd damage and both are simple.

They lean a bit away from single target compared to the XV but both have far better crowd damage.

[obtuse stirrup]

XV has enough to count though, and it staggers like nobody's business

[ripe quest]

XV has some of the worst crowd damage available for Zealot weapons. It's a single target leaning weapon, not entirely meant for crowd clear.

[obtuse stirrup]

Maybe the rev is a little beginner unfriendly though

[ripe quest]

Also last I checked the bug is still around locking the stagger on the first 3 lights to be fairly bad.

[ember yew]

Idk, but mk13 is not that popular

[ripe quest]

It's capped at light stagger.

[ember yew]

i barely see it anywhere

[obtuse stirrup]

What really lmao

Good to know

[ember yew]

but its definitely better at moving down everything thats not carapace, compared to IV

[ripe quest]

I have no clue why it would be unpopular, it's a phenomenal weapon along with the IV.

[spare dome]

Moveset on the 13 is jank af

[ripe quest]

No the IV has far better crowd damage.

[ember yew]

probably because most people just use mk15

CHAAAAAAARGE

[spare dome]

Fine if you just wanna spam lights but anything else is wonky

[ember yew]

and

sweep

[ripe quest]

I mean, you wouldn't use the XV Evis and either Chainsword for the same things really.

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-me-jonathan-queer-eye-give-me-your-attention-netflix-gif-3447505571695961989

im using them for the same stuff tho

but i do a lot of strange things in this game cuz why not

[ripe quest]

Both Chainswords have absurd crowd damage that beats out everything but Crusher in a few outlier situations. XV has comparatively bad crowd damage but has better ST damage, best Unyielding damage a chain weapon can bring and is able to chain 1 shots on Crushers with a blessing setup like a Chaxe can.

[ember yew]

i like to oneshot bulwarks with heavy rev on dodge

[ripe quest]

Like I wouldn't use a Dclaw and a Headtaker + Decimator Caxe for the same things

[spare dome]

you dont parry with your caxe??

[ripe quest]

I'd love to but the fat fish has cut my dreams short

[ember yew]

i hope the patch will shake the meta a lot

at least for zealots

[ripe quest]

The crafting overhaul will inevitably shift everything around. If our current blessings survive I imagine though that certain key weapons will remain just as strong, like Chaxe and Thammer having our best ST profiles and Chainsword being overpowered for crowds.

I'm imagining that they'll go with some WoM system but like, they might do something interesting.

[ember yew]

i dont mind strong options stays, but more toys and buffed unusable shet (like Achlys 8) would be nice

[obtuse stirrup]

You know what that would mean though

Achlys Stubber nerf

Because Achlys only makes 1 good weapon at a time

[onyx lodge]

judging on whats happened already i dont hold out hope any of our favorites will survive, and i do see us all bying all new loadouts anyways.

[hushed knoll]

HI EXHILLIOUS

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/finn-wolfhard-smile-fading-happy-to-frown-funny-stantwt-gif-25149822

[nimble fiber]

HI STAN

[hushed knoll]

What does this mean

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/604561410013528065/846456790588850226/tenor_1_1.gif

[hushed knoll]

[nimble fiber]

how r u doin on this fine day?

[hushed knoll]

[nimble fiber]

[placid fiber]

Welp my wife chose which character I'm gonna do Judgement on, next, in Risk of Rain Returns: Enforcer. >.>

I have like... 4 or 5 of the more powerful characters still left for judgement lol

Enforcer is definitely a goddamn power house

[nimble fiber]

shogun is so fucken peak, quite happy that the new episode is dropping next tuesday

https://tenor.com/view/shōgun-shogun-shogun-2024-gif-10361434468901492817

[sharp zodiac]

Why is shotgun peak? Is it insane?

[nimble fiber]

its a pretty good show imo
watch it

[sharp zodiac]

I only watch YouTube videos

What's it on

[wise fog]

got this for my Zealot, what are the recommended changes?

[sharp zodiac]

Perks

Why Is jonkler saying hi to a US citizen? Is he yuri-pean?

[fossil crag]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba27ccd-c8d6-4574-9df6-23b9b78db58a/leh-charge-zealot I use this build

[drowsy steppe]

is this you

[ripe quest]

yes I was a child actor for Stranger Things

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pus-kitty-kitten-funny-gif-22105501

[maiden path]

i need to dress like this

[stone fern]

9 stamina?

[fossil crag]

YES

[stone fern]

its pretty much the build i use to speed run stuff

only stealth

[fossil crag]

i use to play stealth

givme a sec going to grab it in game

this pretty much my stealth build, but with charge it feels like the game goes way faster

unless the game throws like 20 balwark squad in my face and i cry my self while stabbing them individually with knife

[maiden path]

bart tweaking

[sharp zodiac]

My son Bart has died in a fatal car accident

[fossil crag]

If i were to run stealth again I might switch it like this, since i feel like i dont really need the dmg reduction on dodge

[stone fern]

yeah that steems standard

[stone fern]

🤔

idk about this one boss

[obtuse stirrup]

No keystone huh

Think I usually take Piety on my stealth build just to get more CDR procs

[stone fern]

i saw a full talentless vet in auric

bro had scavenger

[maiden path]

bart simpson at the nuremberg trials

'eat my shorts tojo!'

[fossil crag]

for some reason my brain froze but it was meant to look like this

[ripe quest]

Judgement buffs attack speed, damage, and your dodges. It's fairly potent.

[stone fern]

swift is nice tho

[fossil crag]

it is nice but i dont have enough skill point

[stone fern]

and master's retribution is the worst talent in the entire game idk why they even have it next to invocation of death

like i was thinking maybe they change it into dealing extra damage based on the amount fallen during a melee attack

[ripe quest]

It's a popular pick in V2's Chaos Wastes as there's an equivalent that saves runs. If I had to guess they tried to port that but didn't want to make it too strong so they removed the main thing that made it good.

[stone fern]

it would seem kinda cool to make it worth while to use the terrain

[ripe quest]

I feel as though that'd be equally bad. You wouldn't ever rely on falling off a ledge for a BP and only certain spots on maps would let you use it.

[spare dome]

Master's Retribution is really not that bad.

It reads as if it knocks back just the single attacker.

It's actually closer to an Ogryn-sized push in the direction of the attack and its still buffed by your +Impact effects

[stone fern]

i disagree

[spare dome]

I mean, when you're in Aurics and Ragers come at you in dozens, it has a place.

Also the niche of saving you from doggos if they catch you. But they're pretty easy already.

[fossil crag]

You can just charge at them and they get stun

[spare dome]

Really specials are just different. So the Gromril Armor effect isn't gonna be as stronk as it was in VT2

[fossil crag]

And spam block attack which kill like 3-5 of em before they start attacking back

[austere grail]

Masters ret is a get out of jail free for dogs

[nimble fiber]

[woven void]

Do backstabs count as weak spot hits?

[fading vale]

a backstab weakspot does

[woven void]

👍

[austere grail]

Can you even hit crushers heads from the back

[south folio]

prolly if you aim a bit upwards

[royal vortex]

arco do u know kung fu

[south folio]

quiet yourself

i already answered you

[royal vortex]

answer.

[south folio]

you solictor

check your dms

for the answer which you seek

and carry yourself away

[royal vortex]

how am i a solicitor

[south folio]

one who solicits

[stone fern]

nuh uh

[sharp zodiac]

NO

IM WITH THE SCIENCE TEAM

[stable cypress]

Perish

[sly mauve]

evis2 with perfect strike and cleave blessing?

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-karl-malone-utah-jazz-gif-10041967210753654817

[bitter yoke]

Most people don't like perfect strike but I think it's awesome being able to just attack thru carapace armored enemies instead oh having your Evi get stuck, don't know about cleave tho, depends what you are running, I like shred best cause synergizes with crit build, also I value perfect strikes on XV more than on II just cause of the attack patterns and the wide consistent light attack

[ripe quest]

Perfect Strike is a cleave blessing.

It's 4x cleave and no armor stop.

on a crit

[ripe quest]

And then for you Perfect Strike's benefit is better utilized w/ the Mk II. It has flat sweeps and an uncapped H1, allowing you to actually damage the enemies that the armor stop matters on instead of tickling them.

also just scales with cleave better, hence the better compatibility.

If you want to take PS I recommend it w/ Scourge and Blazing Piety, along with Shred on the Mk II Evis. You'll have enough crit chance to rely on it, if you need it you can use Fury of the Faithful which will be off-CD often and is a guaranteed crit.

[bitter yoke]

Oh shiz, ty for the info I've been talking only based off of personal impressions and game play and tbh skill issues cause I always mess up the attack patterns with the MK II compared to the XV which I've gotten the hang of, I've got 2 nearly identical builds for them I'll try and test it out!! Ty

[obtuse stirrup]

XV is way easier but has more limited horde clear

4 target cap is sad

The II is quite a different weapon really

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gmod-low-tier-god-kys-you-should-gif-23638964

[bitter yoke]

Where do I find this info?

[obtuse stirrup]

I suck with it

[obtuse stirrup]

I learned it here idk

People have datamined this shit

[bitter yoke]

Oh that's why, cause I felt like it would just hit everything in FOV, ty

[obtuse stirrup]

It hits them but doesn't hurt them

The damage diminishes on each target past the first, and zeroes out after the fourth

[bitter yoke]

Aha ty, that's what the Exhillious was saying about the uncapped heavy right?

[obtuse stirrup]

Yeah

Eviscerator can just mow down a whole crowd

But it's less simple, and its single target is surprisingly lacking for me

I'm sure the II has a higher ceiling for what it can accomplish but I'm fine just plebbing around with my XV for now

I will give it another go some day

[bitter yoke]

Def me lol

[ripe quest]

Breakpoint calc shows it off.

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

The lights on both Evis' do 0 damage past 4 enemies hit. It'll only stagger (some stuff like crit CDR still procs). The H1 on the Mk II Evis isn't capped and has a respectable cleave profile, the BP calc can't show it due to the H1 and H2 sticking on certain targets though.

[obtuse stirrup]

I find with that crit CDR stuff that the XV works really well in a chorus build

Good support weapon since it's versatile enough and great at killing elites. Just gotta be careful about the stun not being reliable.

[median steeple]

hand held cloud

[fleet zealot]

dirty cloud

[ripe quest]

They look like the living manifestation of one of these 'going fast' vignettes.

[bitter yoke]

Yea it does, I've had times when I filled my ult with 2 light attacks, maybe that's why I paid no attention to target cap

[sterile stone]

Ex Hill Us

[thin pecan]

If you use Perfect Strike blessing with Shred and build for crit it can cleave through entire hordes including mixed in Flak Ragers and even Maulers

Plus it can still do a funny rev'd heavy 1HKO on a Crusher with high momentum stacks in my experience

[misty nova]

Bloodthirsty

[thin pecan]

Very funny seeing an entire crowd of maulers, running in with charge and spamming W+M1 to clean them and the horde up at the same time

Though it is good to know it isn't killing beyond 4 targets. The constant staggers and fast swings feel like it cleans up really fast

[ripe quest]

I already said that.

[ripe quest]

I have that as my close friend group server's nickname, how'd you know

Argus knows too much smh

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-fedposting-fedpost-watching-you-nice-meme-gif-19958885

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248972334327791616/1221188562116935720/SPOILER_tumblr_s8jpl3VmcK1wurhlv.mov?ex=6611ab79&is=65ff3679&hm=54437776ad37e3e6c6e51e3d92cd00679974d2df23eca7e44e5764ab5409b47a&

[thin pecan]

My bad! I tuned into the conversation late and didn't see the comments above

[drowsy steppe]

Can't believe it

Argus is a stinky fed all along

The sus impostor

[burnt bobcat]

how can i best be a generalist for my group?

whats the carry build lol

[south folio]

depends on what flavor of generalist you like to play

e.g., i run bolter + tknives + chainsword + fury + piety

[hushed knoll]

HI ARCO

[south folio]

hi stan

[hushed knoll]

Are you comfywomfy rn

[south folio]

mhm

[hushed knoll]

Yaaaaaas

[south folio]

back at my parent's house and chilling

[hushed knoll]

Noice

Spring break?

[south folio]

ye

[hushed knoll]

I’m off this week too

Spring break twins

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-were-like-brothers-only-gif-5916875

[maiden path]

iq test

but it makes u pay at the end

and if u do it says ur 30iq

regardless of answers

[burnt bobcat]

so whats the meta of metas around here

i suppose

[north sedge]

cheetos, mountain dew code red

[burnt bobcat]

ill guess crusher or evisc, sounds like blades and fury of the faithful (to my dismay, a immol and chorus lover)

[maiden path]

da meta is...............

idk...........

[drowsy steppe]

Zealot has good selection of weapons to choose from (check Vin's pinned post for it)

[burnt bobcat]

my zeal is too powerful for you folk

( i get nothing further from this )

[north sedge]

trollin

[drowsy steppe]

all blitz are viable options and each of the ults and keystones have its place

thats said what in the goddamn is that talent tree

[north sedge]

they're trolling

[burnt bobcat]

well yes cpt obv

its still funny to go "holy what in tf beajesus"

is knife good for horde clear in any way

[vast radish]

HADRON. PLEASE.

[burnt bobcat]

maybe mk6

[north sedge]

no

[vast radish]

god please put shred on this hadron, please please please

[burnt bobcat]

assuming your responding to me, ?

[north sedge]

correct

you have dogshit horde clear and slightly less dogshit horde clear

[ripe quest]

It's one of our worst horde clearers, only beaten in title by the Mk III.

[burnt bobcat]

okay

so what are the mainly used melee weapons and what are their pros cons

evisc: horde with slight single target
crusher: general
knife: high single target, god forsaken horde
hammer: big prep bigger single target, some horde
?

[fossil crag]

st?

[burnt bobcat]

single target im lazy sorry

[fossil crag]

||its no bad against horde i just make em bleed and it will die eventually but ye other weapons do better||

[burnt bobcat]

agility + horde melee + team utility
i guess in the end thats probably the best i can ask for to have a build based around

[hushed knoll]

Hi Exhillious

[fossil crag]

I can see veteran taking that place with shout + knife IV with correct blessings and perks

[bitter yoke]

Looks like an Evi with cross for utility(I forgot how it's called) and momentum

[south folio]

knife and flamer if you want mobility and horde i suppose

[bitter yoke]

We don't need more runners😂

[burnt bobcat]

or do we?

i mean i got an okay flamer, need to work on getting a knife

i still might be upsetti without proper horde melee

[fossil crag]

get the iv knife, you can cleave through hordes with its first 2 heavy swings

[bitter yoke]

With the flamer ur using melee for single target damage

Hordes are taken care of with flamer

[ripe quest]

It's easier to list bad weapons but for a somewhat concise list
Rashad/Antax Caxe - Generalist
Dclaw - Horde mulcher, bad on Flak and Carapace. Finesse weapon.
Hsword - Crowd mulcher, bad on Carapace and slow Unyielding damage, Deathblow is nutty.
Crusher - Generalist finesse weapon, we have a guide in pins on it.
Thammer - Unyielding boss nuker, Crucis goes full-in on that and Ironhelm trades some ST damage on the special for better horde clear.
Evis - Mk II is a generalist, Mk XV is a ST leaning weapon. Both are kinda slow but have high cleave and hit fairly hard.
Chaxe - Thammer but w/ Flak and Carapace. Mk IV has better horde clear and rager mulching and XII can 1 shot all non-bosses with like, barely any setup. IV can too but it needs some more oomph for Crushers.
Chainsword - Best of the best for crowd damage, absurd horde and bruiser clear. Less ST than Chaxe and Evis, still great for it though.
Knife - Super finesse oriented ST weapon.
Taxe - Due to BM it's Caxe but worse on-paper. Kinda fun but has hitbox issues on some attacks.

[burnt bobcat]

no i know, i wasnt planning on using the flamer but i can and then use a single target melee
the og plan was horde melee and a good special or elite gun

[bitter yoke]

Might be biased but I love my boltgun and knives for bulwarks/specialists

[fossil crag]

what are your blessing for boltgun

[ripe quest]

Flamer takes care of patrols and elite clumps.
Though if you're looking for that Chainsword, Hsword, or Dclaw + Revolver, Boltgun, Columnus or Agri IAG, or Brauto will work. IAG and Brauto can't damage Cara very well unless you use Fury of the Faithful for the armor downgrade.

[visual blade]

i saw 3 80s while scrolling and only then did i realize that that doesn't happen often so i scrolled back

[burnt bobcat]

ah, vi knife that is?

[visual blade]

howd it go

[ember yew]

copypast this summary somewhere so we wont repeat same things for new players

or better to pin it

[bitter yoke]

Blaze away and cavalcade

[north sedge]

mk6 knife still shit at horde, just slightly less shit than mk3

[fossil crag]

yes i think so, aslong as its not the iii

[ripe quest]

I mean, it has cleave for sure but it's not really, good at hordes. Like at all.

[fossil crag]

idea is to put bleed on crits on it, he gets cd for relic and spams it for his team

[ripe quest]

No, I will type it every time it is asked for like the tradition intended.

[ember yew]

[south folio]

you could also just run a better crit cdr weapon like the chainsword

[burnt bobcat]

whats the knife dump stat

[bitter yoke]

Damage

[fossil crag]

I MIGHT GET HATE FROM THIS BUT MOBILITITY IS FINE AT 60%

[burnt bobcat]

what

[ripe quest]

Bleed knife isn't the best blessing combo for crowd damage. It's bottom of the barrel.

[north sedge]

mobility is always the dump

or defense

[south folio]

don't worry i'm pretty sure most of us are mobility dumpers

on knife i would rather have a 0% mobility one so that i stop dodging out of range of enemies

[ripe quest]

If you want crowd damage, attack speed, mobility, and crits a Savage Sweep/Wrath + Shred Chainsword fucks

Goes from some of the worst crowd damage to literally just about the best crowd damage + it has great finesse multis and is similar in playstyle.

[visual blade]

i'm not. fking love mobility

[ripe quest]

0% mobility just so Judgement doesn't rocket me off of a bridge

[north sedge]

50% is the line for most melee weapons on dodge count, thats it

[bitter yoke]

Yea that was my reaction lol, it's not the dump Stat it's decent even if it's low, important thing is very high finesse I like mobility between 70-75 for dodge distance

[north sedge]

on knife it doesnt matter

[visual blade]

auric btw. what in the world is director today

[south folio]

judgement has assassinated me a few times

[stone fern]

this is good

i cant be asked to deal with dogs lights out or any other crap

[visual blade]

not saying it's not, just confused there's 3 non-hists

lights out fun

[stone fern]

but you cant see plasteel

[visual blade]

??? use eyes?

[fossil crag]

I dont find it as fun on zealot since i fall of cliffs, but on veteran its alrite

[burnt bobcat]

so what are mk6 knife stats in order of importance

[south folio]

i've got the found ya mod for that shit

[visual blade]

vet is not great cuz i can't see rangeds, which i focus on

[fossil crag]

I just spam ping in the void

[burnt bobcat]

i assume finesse > damage > penetration > first target > mobility

[south folio]

lights out attracts shitty teammates for some reason each time i play it, so i just avoid it

[visual blade]

with zealot also but not so much cuz i go hard on ranged groups

but psyker? yes. lights out all the way

[bitter yoke]

Finesse, pen,mobility,damage,first target

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[north sedge]

mobility is the dump

[bitter yoke]

Mobility and damage are swappable on personal preference

[south folio]

why would you rate pen over damage and first target

unless you're just not running uncanny strike for some reason

[bitter yoke]

Cause I don't have ir

[drowsy steppe]

DO NOT DUMP DAMAGE WHATSOEVER

[bitter yoke]

Lol

[fossil crag]

Do you have the link for this

[north sedge]

mobility does very little

[south folio]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/95

[bitter yoke]

I play mine with bleed

[fossil crag]

tysm

[ripe quest]

Under normal circumstances pen would be a higher prio than damage honestly but also like, Uncanny is a thermonuclear bomb when it comes to ADMs so it doesn't really matter that much.

[burnt bobcat]

garbage options but im a garbage player so i need to work with scraps here, what should i use?

[fossil crag]

I play mine with bleed aswell with uncanny strike

[drowsy steppe]

the 345

[shy river]

we cookin?

[bitter yoke]

Don't have uncanny 4, i've found 3 but still didn't use it, I like the 60% on weak spot on bleeding targets and lacerate

[fossil crag]

i only have 3 aswell and its still does good dmg

[north sedge]

Uncanny is much stronger

[burnt bobcat]

Knife Mk6 and Flamer, 8 more talent points to spend here

[bitter yoke]

Still why carry a knife when you can carry a big ass evi

[fossil crag]

i hit fast and get cd back

[bitter yoke]

Talent to the left above knives

I run it on every zealot build(for context I have 1)

The toughness regen on dodge

Amazing

[fossil crag]

try something like this

[bitter yoke]

And you want the left side of until death

Amazing dmg output after dodging

[woven void]

It feels clunky af to use because it doesn’t have infinite cleave

[fossil crag]

sorry for the shitty lighting i have hdr on and for some reason when i take ss on my browser it fks it up

[woven void]

And knife feels stronger

[fossil crag]

it has good dps against bosses

[woven void]

Counterpoint:

[fossil crag]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxdjnrxOuHpiVet26HjYOAPYztGzzYTkOK?si=zRGYWkKnHAPLJJKB

[bitter yoke]

Well it felt decent up until today I discovered it has limited cleave😂

[burnt bobcat]

Oo from my limited knowledge that looks pretty solid

[woven void]

https://tenor.com/view/justified-gun-spinning-revolver-gun-gif-22041686

[woven void]

I came from playing ogryn and made a zealot

Picked up chain sword

Limited cleave

https://tenor.com/view/man-crying-gif-27679168

[bitter yoke]

I made an ogryn after playing only zealot, needless to say I won't even bring him to 30😂

[woven void]

Shield ogryn is peak

I have 520~ health and 100 something toughness

[fossil crag]

I think i deleted mine in the first 15 mins of creation, it just felt too slow compare to zealot

[woven void]

My only issue with ogryn is that I feel like shit getting hit with every net and dog this side of Atoma

Nobody tosses hordes and specials like Ogryn

[vast radish]

Here's how it went

not my worst 380 roll

cleave is always nice so i can critspam on hordes

[bitter yoke]

Bloodletter just feels like the game is saying here let me troll you as hard as I can

[fossil crag]

Just out of curiosity is their like a LFG or LFM with no vc attach to it, since i do not want to go in call with people, i just want to play with people

[bitter yoke]

Yea I feel like I get hit by everything that gets fired my way

[vast radish]

either way i can probably keep infested on this thing

[bitter yoke]

You can just join say hi I wanna play but I don't wanna talk and mute yourself, seen it happen a couple times

[vast radish]

or no...uhhh...

should i replace infested on this eviscerator with old reliable?(flak)

[drowsy steppe]

just switch it over to flak or elites

flak and maniac is underrated

[fossil crag]

[drowsy steppe]

[vast radish]

I put crit chance on it

More crits for the crit god

[drowsy steppe]

more crit chances is aight

[bitter yoke]

Noice running it with momentum? So you make up for mobility and I think piety is overkill on crits

[drowsy steppe]

and with how massively overtuned player power is currently, everything else is mostly viable. Even on grey tiers

[fossil crag]

what do you mean by player power, as in game knowledge or skill perks

[drowsy steppe]

weapons mostly

perks your most optimal bet is flak and maniac obviously

just that weapons are currently way overtuned right now, combinations of how good their baseline is. And with just the right blessing combo

[bitter yoke]

It affects throwing knives as well right?

[drowsy steppe]

ahem Handcannon revolver

yes

[fossil crag]

invis knife knife with revolver out and you can 2 tap crushers in the head

[drowsy steppe]

I mean

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1185563123449614426/2_Tapping_Crushers.mp4?ex=661143b3&is=65feceb3&hm=bff6ea5d8e510187597bc6e57c819367c82d91709a62f2b10a16ad4a741dd6bf&

theres no Carapace perk in the knife

[fossil crag]

one second

[bitter yoke]

Do you need blazing for it?

[vast radish]

I'm gonna run with cleave and crit chance. Hoards will fear me

[bitter yoke]

Sorry I meant as a talent not a blessing😂

[fleet zealot]

plot twist

if anyone says "weird looking ferret" I shall execute you with my laser vision

[drowsy steppe]

the blessings for it is Uncanny and Precog

[vast radish]

Weird looking raccoon

[drowsy steppe]

since finesse in blessings affects your weakspot and crit damage

Piety's to maximize the crit chance you get

but I personally dont use Piety keystone

[bitter yoke]

Aha so it's actually mandatory to have precog for it

[fossil crag]

its on its way

[woven void]

Why does zealot feel weak?

[fossil crag]

[woven void]

I don’t feel like I can brawl it out in a horde

[bitter yoke]

You tryna upset the emperor?

[misty nova]

Sorry but skill issue

[bitter yoke]

Hordes help you stay alive as a zealot

[south folio]

what weapons are you running

[oak ermine]

That is a very good question. What things are you running on your Zealot?

[woven void]

Gunners and anything with carapace also just feel shit to try and kill

[misty nova]

Maybe you didn't find your rhythm

[fossil crag]

this is so true

[woven void]

I’ve tried every weapon

[south folio]

this sounds like a severe build issue

[south folio]

alright this sounds like a severe player issue now

[frank night]

Hoohah

[woven void]

I can go toe to toe with the EMPRAH himself on ogryn and get punted like a baby on zealot

[fleet zealot]

get a better gun for the gunners

[bitter yoke]

I like boltgun for any crusher/bulwark and knives for any specialist just run into the rest with the Evi

[fleet zealot]

and get a melee that can punch armor or use chastise and get a better gun

[oak ermine]

Zealot can't really afford getting hit a lot, unlike Ogryn

[south folio]

if ogryn is your comparison then sure
do you press the dodge button on zealot

[bitter yoke]

The revolver is too damn good as well

[south folio]

do you take any survivability talents

[oak ermine]

but Zealot has other means to mitigate damage

[woven void]

I dodge constantly

[woven void]

Yes

[fleet zealot]

zealot is imo tankier than ogryn, ogryn too slow

[misty nova]

You can one shot gunners

[oak ermine]

Also, good Melk item?

[south folio]

zealot is at least comfier around ranged patrols

[oak ermine]

FOR ONCE?

[south folio]

and has crit builds to run with

get that sweet balanced +50% toughness dr along with +50% toughness dr on dodges

[spare dome]

zealot is about family, and thats what makes them so powerful

[frank night]

Ogryn was randomly made to be invincible until a trapper happens by fatshark

[south folio]

and better dodge stats than ogryn

[woven void]

True

[frank night]

Zealot needs a lil more input

Not much more tho

[misty nova]

Zealot has the same trapper issue

[visual blade]

nah but this is kinda goated

[woven void]

Like I’m aware it’s a skill issue zealot just feels bad to use

[south folio]

zealot at least has chastise to dash around inside hordes and not get trapped by either the horde (assuming you look upwards to avoid locking onto a random walker) or trapper

[misty nova]

Not a fan but yes

[south folio]

and the crit cdr to spam that shit

[visual blade]

how about this

dash at the trapper

what's she gonna do, fire the net faster?

[woven void]

That’s what I’ve been rocking with knife

Mostly

[oak ermine]

No. Just fire the net

[spare dome]

usually she just isnt gonna get stunned at all

[oak ermine]

you get caught

you die happily little after

[south folio]

are you using the knife against hordes

[spare dome]

so now you're stupid and trapped

[woven void]

Not typically

Usually flamer

[spare talon]

I thought it was 25% flat dr

[misty nova]

If the distance is good you stagger the trappe

[spare dome]

ye arco is just famously bad at math

[south folio]

nah it's -50% additive toughness DR on dodge

[visual blade]

sounds like somebody's salty they don't know the trapper chastisement technique

[spare talon]

Yeah I guess he is a goose after all

[south folio]

i'm shanking you

[woven void]

Sometimes I dash in and skin a metric ton of heretics

[south folio]

wow look at that 28 stabs ready for you

[spare talon]

Yay Christmas came early

[misty nova]

28

[oak ermine]

I know a "throw a knife" technique, no need to break a sweat making a charge even

[visual blade]

stab

wounds

https://tenor.com/view/28stab-wounds-criminal-killer-interrogate-gif-17937824

[south folio]

what else are you running with the knife?

[visual blade]

inb4 @spare talon gets stabbed 28 times irl and @south folio gets blamed for it

[oak ermine]

you didn't want to leave him a chance, huh?

[frank night]

He is also a warehouse

[south folio]

if you're running flamer/brauto/etc., then i'd be surprised that you're not having a good time brawling with zealot

[fossil crag]

https://youtu.be/9XsYLMV7-Es my knife run

[south folio]

if you're not running them, then i wouldn't eb surprised

[frank night]

Altho stan has mutated him

[hollow moat]

Thoughts

[frank night]

Into a terrible creature

[visual blade]

low pen

[oak ermine]

Decent-ish

[visual blade]

bricked from the get go