zealot-class

[polar nexus]

That's what I do

[fair igloo]

ooh this is alot cleaner

[tropic harbor]

True. The only reason this doesn’t apply to bugs is the due to what’s basically more armored enemies

[maiden path]

chat do me and gnarp gnarp got that shit on

jesus i need to change what gnarp gnarp looks like

[median steeple]

they no longer look like a cat

[open falcon]

I’m struggling with the “Stun 40 enemies and kill them within 10 seconds”

[ivory marlin]

why is gnarp gnarp a small child?

[maiden path]

dysmorphia

[ivory marlin]

AH OK

[maiden path]

also cause the stats are good

[ivory marlin]

oops caps

[maiden path]

ill change it eventually

it is a cat techincally

but the bangs dont help

it has a cat nose n everyting

[calm salmon]

Yeah, its just that bots are "Varying degrees of useable"

while bugs are like "lol mg-43 nerd get rektd by 9 chargers and 4 bile titans at extract"

[frosty herald]

mid fashion

[calm salmon]

which just. . . isn't super engaging game design

[frosty herald]

get some even quest layered armor

[maiden path]

what

event quest

[tropic harbor]

Balance it out by giving us weapons with anti bug rounds

[frosty herald]

event quest layered armor

[maiden path]

all of those are too flashy

[calm salmon]

bugs just need a redesign to how their "weakspots" work

the bile titan only being wounded by small arms fire enough to make it stop puking is probably the most frustrating aspect of bug fights

and chargers relying on a bug, explosives like the autocannon into the ass, or an eat/rr to the head

like I said earlier, extremely slim pickings against bugs due to the way chargers and bts are designed

[frosty herald]

orbital railcannon and recoiless rifle

also orbital laser

and 500kg bomb when the cone hitbox is fixed

[calm salmon]

orbital laser can't kill a single BT

or charger

it takes 4 RRs or EATs to a BT head to kill it

spear can't lock on reliably enough to be anything but dead weight

orbital railcannon can't one-shot a BT AND is on a 5 minute cooldown

Sorry, its on a 210 second cooldown but with the everpresent +50% cooldown modifier at helldive. . . its easier to just reference this

there's just no good solutions to the amount of bts and chargers we face.

[north sedge]

Railcannon can one shot it's chance

[calm salmon]

Which is solvable in one of two ways:

Redesign BTs and Chargers to be weaker to more things, or actually change their spawn rates

[north sedge]

No

[calm salmon]

you have to hit the head

and hitting the head of a BT with a 3 second call-in orbital is a tall order

it'll fire before you can get the BT to rotate the right way around

[frosty herald]

fucking what

[calm salmon]

and god forbid someone else grabs its aggro like a moron wasting your orbital slot

[north sedge]

Even if it doesn't one shot it will just take 1 rocket to finish

[frosty herald]

every single orbital laser i have thrown on a charger has outright killed it or damaged it so severely it was in its death roaming state

[calm salmon]

So lets assume it kills one charger

It takes 30 seconds, with no guarantee on the actual kill as the bleedout state doesn't stop it from charging which means you've done nothing for the team other than waste a 210 second cooldown orbital slot

[north sedge]

Chargers are pretty easy atm and there's multiple options for both enemies

[calm salmon]

at that point, just bring stun grenades and the 500kg eagle

guarantee the kill

[calm salmon]

which has been my working solution so far

as both are generally plentiful

[frosty herald]

yeah the 500kg is doing absolutely nothing to a charger unless you hit it directly

[calm salmon]

can you read

that's why I said "Bring the stun grenade"

so it cannot move

[placid fiber]

Behold: The Qwertyopteryx!

[frosty herald]

why would i waste a nade if i could just shoot its head once or use the railcannon

[frosty herald]

happy wheels W

[calm salmon]

again, railcannon is on a 210 to 315 second cooldown

and one charger every 3 to 5 minutes is not useful to anyone

[placid fiber]

Yep lol

[calm salmon]

eats are okay

usually best used with two people bringing them

for the bt kill

RR gets overwhelmed by the new and improved horde sizes

too much downtime to really be reliable

an autocannon abusing the leg bug will go further

[fair igloo]

Okay went through another match and soulblaze did the majority of the damage this time

I think the random stagger is what contributed the missing 175k damage from last one so I think last mission as well it did over 50% of the damage

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208

[calm salmon]

its not like its hard to fit the eat into a kit

just bring an autocannon and eat x2 on the team

which still leaves room for other stratagems and you don't have to feel bad about losing the backpack because the AC is already doing that

[misty mason]

People sleep on EAT

[calm salmon]

its not that people sleep on it really

its that they're addicted to backpacks

so they see three blue slots

and one red stratagem

and go "NO"

[north sedge]

I run recoiless

[calm salmon]

and refuse to give up their laser guarddog or shield

[misty mason]

It has such a short cooldown, can 1 shot chargers and you get 2

[north sedge]

And do not find it to be overwhelmed even when self loading

[misty mason]

I run autocannon and EAT

Backpacks are a crutch

[calm salmon]

I like jetpack

because its the most engaging backpack

its fun sitting on a rock with the new las-16 sickle and lascannon

Its not uh

[misty mason]

I feel like jetpack cooldown is too long

[calm salmon]

super effective

but its definitely fun

oh, there's a ton of problems with the jetpack

it needs to be split into two different kinds

[wise fog]

for Thunderous on chain axe, is that only on the initial hit, or does that work for each bite on the saw?

[calm salmon]

4sure 4sure

one for jumping up - on the current cooldown

one for jumping long - half the cooldown of the current one

[calm salmon]

i have no idea

gut feeling says "first hit only" but that's rarely correct

simple enough to test in the meatgrinder

hit a crusher without thunderous on the rev

then hit it again with thunderous

compare damage values in the chain of attacks

if the second one keeps going up, then thunderous applies to every tick of the attack

[calm salmon]

But yes. The jetpack we have really is just the "Get up onto a rock" jetpack. its awful for actually using it as a mobility tool otherwise because of the cooldown between jumps.

[misty mason]

It's a shame really, having a solid jetpack would be great fun

I got it as soon as I could, used it once and decided it was a waste of a slot

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-kiss-dune-feyd-dune-part-1-dune-part-2-gif-15202983623288892447

this gif is fucking hilarious

why does he stare

[misty mason]

Cause that's Feyd Rautha

[maiden path]

he does this

[polar nexus]

i will always remember him as Sting

[frosty herald]

dune is freaky ah hell but i cant call it mid because its the forefather of sci fi and created warhammer

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-sting-gif-9658946

[open falcon]

wtf does this mean i’ve been stunning and killing stuff all day on damnation

[frosty herald]

use flamer on big horde

[misty mason]

It made me laugh how much less uhh adult content there is in the movie than the book

[frosty herald]

throw 2 stun nades for the maximum effect

https://tenor.com/view/dune-1984-shield-gif-18397416

[open falcon]

That’s what I’ve been doing by

[frosty herald]

Youll get it eventualy

[misty mason]

Man those shields

[open falcon]

It hasn’t progressed at all today

[misty mason]

Absolutely iconic

[polar nexus]

i wish we had a blue flame emoji

[misty mason]

Jean Luc fighting Twin Peaks Coffee Detective in rectangles hand drawn by a 5 year old over the frames

[frosty herald]

In the books the shield makes your voice disorted right

[misty mason]

Not that I recall

The big thing was that they caused a nuclear explosion if they got shot with a las gun

[polar nexus]

i see we have a connoisseur

coffee and pie detective

[frosty herald]

My dad saw dune 1 and he liked it alot

[misty mason]

I love the OG Dune movie. Its terrible
But I love it

[sterile stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anZtoPo2Fpw&t=37s

[maiden path]

that guy still looks like sid vicious

i think its him everytime

then i remember sid vicious died

[fading vale]

just stun + flamer a horde

[misty mason]

Sting Vicious

[maiden path]

like 40 years ago

[polar nexus]

oh god you are so right

[misty mason]

Tbh they probably modeled him after Sid

[maiden path]

sid vicious was such a jackass i respect it

[polar nexus]

yeah

[maiden path]

'] According to Lydon, he and Vicious took up busking, with Lydon singing and occasionally playing the violin and Vicious playing a tambourine or an acoustic guitar. They would play Alice Cooper covers, and people gave them money to stop.'

[fair igloo]

Yea, ever since I properly configured the scoreboard soulblaze is consistently adding up to be 50% of my psyker's damage

[maiden path]

gave them money to stop 😭

[fair igloo]

so I feel like soulblaze is NOT useless

but that might be conjecture

[polar nexus]

it's not

the area is fucking wide

[tropic terrace]

Was someone telling you it was? Soulblaze is one of Psyker's best tools

[frosty herald]

I am never wrong

https://tenor.com/view/always-right-always-fuck-right-right-all-the-time-always-correct-gif-16152888

[fair igloo]

yea I was surprised here earlier cuz a bunch of ppl were saying soulblaze just wasn't good so i decided to go and test it myself to be sure

[fair igloo]

Hi never wrong
i'm the big dumb

[fading vale]

whoever said that is an idiot

[tropic terrace]

Good on you for testing it yourself

[frosty herald]

Hi im the big dumb im dad

Maybe i remembered soulblaze from when fire overall was nerfed

[misty mason]

Looks like conan, but with slightly more desert

[tropic terrace]

Soulblaze is fairly weak when not synergized with anything (If you just took like, wildfire then it does very little), but builds where it is a main weapon alongside your firearms, it'll contribute to at least half the total damage or more by the end of a mission

[fresh sentinel]

people think soulblaze is bad?

[maiden path]

billy idols the only dude from the 80's thats old and still looks badass trying to look like 80's billy idol

does dat make sense

no

[fading vale]

psyker gets a ton of passive soulblaze basically and it does a lot of damage

[polar nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1ahp08w/the_shape_of_venting_shriek_for_the_siblings_a/

[fresh sentinel]

purgatus is like top 2 staves for me

[maiden path]

billy idol still has bleached spikey hair even when he's like 60

and da fucker pulls it off

[frosty herald]

Hmmm

[maiden path]

oh yea do u like the look of this armor

i think it looks badass

[polar nexus]

i wonder how he can still have hair

[frosty herald]

Might have to do a psyker force greatsword build when its coming

[frosty herald]

Black belt does look cool

[maiden path]

ds what im saying

once i get it im gonna try out a support horn build with it

[misty mason]

Looks like a gym grunter 10/10

[frosty herald]

In rise black belt is the defender armor

[misty mason]

Should made the moon canonically cheese ya ding dong

[maiden path]

i was wondering whats up the aesthetic difference

looks like it belongs in rise

[frosty herald]

Black belt is an old set

[open falcon]

It’s literally not progressing.

[frosty herald]

From previous gens

Restart the game

[maiden path]

sigh ok....

[open falcon]

Not progressing + randoms literally laugh at me trying to do it

Cool

[maiden path]

what

whats going on pal

[frosty herald]

Bro is trying to get 40 stun kills

But it aint working

[maiden path]

just use stun grenades

oh

must be a bug

[frosty herald]

What i would do is restart go into high intensity damnation wait until horde and use stun flamer

[maiden path]

idk i'd just keep playing it normally till it pops naturally

also that

[open falcon]

I LOVE WHEN MY GAME STOPS RESPONDING IN THE MIDDLE OF A HORDE

[maiden path]

OH

UHH

hmm..

the bridge horde

when u have to cross the bridge

that spawns a fuckton of enemies even not on auric

i think its the only way i ever got those "kill 150 enemies in a minute" challanges

thunderhammer fucks for that

[open falcon]

SO FIRSTLY THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY GRENADE DROPS FOR 3 LEVELS. SECONDLY THE RANDOMS ARE LITERALLY AGAINST ME DOING THE PENANCE. THIRDLY THE GAME STOPS RESPONDING. COOL BRO. COOL

[maiden path]

i'd try to run a singleplayer match

or take a break

even if u dont wanna take a break its way healthier 2 just put da game down

[open falcon]

TF IS THIS BULLSHIT

I LITERALLY SOLO’D A HORDE AND KILLED MOST OF THEM WHEN THEY WERE STUNNED BUT I GET NO PROGRESSIOB

[maiden path]

stealth could help

[frosty herald]

Just do it solo

[misty mason]

For the stun kills I used a cavalcade autopistol

[maiden path]

solo and stealth

flamer probably wont kill fast enough

[frosty herald]

Or report it as a bug on the forum if it truly doesnt work

[open falcon]

What forum.

[frosty herald]

Fatshark forum

For shartide

[maiden path]

what does it even drop

the challange

[frosty herald]

Pants

[open falcon]

I have a compulsion to 100% every game I play

[misty mason]

Ah woops I'm thinking of crit kills

If youre using a flamer, maybe the burn isn't being attributed to you

[frosty herald]

Chastice flamer could also work

[open falcon]

I’ve watched 4 different people do it with the flamer.

[misty mason]

You're trying it on malice+ right?

[ripe quest]

Stun grenade > Flamer

You'll get it in 1 try most likely

[maiden path]

wait why arent you using stun grenade 😭

why not use both

flame burst

[north sedge]

🤔

[maiden path]

stun grenade

flame burst

[open falcon]

I am using the flamer wtf are you on about

[misty mason]

Wait what

[open falcon]

And the stun grenade

[misty mason]

You have to use the stun grenade

Yeah

[open falcon]

Obviously Jm using the stun grenade

[north sedge]

he is doing that thing

[open falcon]

How does me saying that I’ve seen people do it with the flamer, as a response to someone saying that flamer kills might not be counting, me saying that I’m not using the stun grenade

[frosty herald]

have you restarted the game yet

[open falcon]

@maiden path

[misty mason]

If you can get them tightly packed, I wonder if the bolter might do it

[open falcon]

Not a he

[frosty herald]

ok what you need to do

is uhh

[open falcon]

Idk let’s find out.

[open falcon]

Break stuff irl

[frosty herald]

get another zealot to stun and then agripinna rifle or something

iunno

[misty mason]

It says your

So another zealot's shouldnt work

[north sedge]

bolter used to do it, dont think it could now

[frosty herald]

i swear on my mom it works with other zealots

[misty mason]

I'd believe it

[frosty herald]

or it might be the 1500 stun kills

[misty mason]

Penance wording is infamously janky

[frosty herald]

fatshark 1500 is so ass

[open falcon]

Can I use this or do I need to not be using it

[frosty herald]

this is better for it

[open falcon]

That’s literally what you just said.

[maiden path]

no you worded it oddly

hold on

[open falcon]

No I did not.

[north sedge]

stunstorm should be fine

[maiden path]

i am re-reading this and have no fucking clue what your saying

[open falcon]

You: If you’re running a flamer, maybe the burn isn’t being attributed to you

Me: I’ve seen 4 people do it with the flamer

You: Why aren’t you using the stun grenade

[frosty herald]

i have a very very dumb idea for your issue

verify the game files

jkjk

[misty mason]

Yeah you have to use the stun grenade

[frosty herald]

use heavy sword crit or smt

[open falcon]

I AM USING THE STUN GRENADE

[misty mason]

Oh are you not 30 yet?

[maiden path]

what the fuck does this mean

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/this-sucks-this-fucking-sucks-danny-devito-clap-clapping-gif-16178642097105159325

[maiden path]

not being able to mod games is crazy

i say while I own a ps5

[open falcon]

It’s very clearly a mistype out of the sheer confusing and frustration at you asking the most dumb question ever

[frosty herald]

ok i genuinely have 0 clue on how to fix this

[sterile stone]

Mans stirring the pot

But I agree

[maiden path]

i cannot tell if it is a mistype if you do not correct it

[frosty herald]

it might just be xbox related

[open falcon]

Bolter round to the Darktide server

[north sedge]

use fury after you apply some burn as well, if you're using that skill, will increase dmg on the mixed in armored stuff

[open falcon]

Why would I correct something I didn’t see

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[maiden path]

why not just go do another challange

while running stun grenade

[fading vale]

idk what everyone is saying but the penance works

and flamer counts

[maiden path]

and see if it pops naturally

challenge

[delicate shadow]

I did the stun nade penance thing with a hsword lmao

[frosty herald]

i could see you not doing enough damage or your kills not counting

or teammates are stealing your kills

[maiden path]

stun grenade, flamer, weapon with high cleave for hordes

das about the only ideai have

[delicate shadow]

they're already using flamer

[fading vale]

the issue is probably teammates killing things

[open falcon]

Probably because I don’t have any others to do.

[frosty herald]

erm akshualy you need to do doomseeker

[maiden path]

ok I don't wanna be mean but doomseeker

EHHEHE

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerdge-gif-23738139

[maiden path]

caught

🤓

yea if its flamer you might not be doing a hell of alot of damage for it to count towards your kills

[frosty herald]

or fire dot

might just be the raw damage itself that needs to kill

[brave summit]

The thing is. Stun prbly was gone when they all died by the flamer.

[frosty herald]

could also be likely

[open falcon]

I’m starting to hate this game

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o'hearn-real-brainfog-gif-7666610795160025826

[open falcon]

The temptation to go into debt to get a PC and just play DoW is growing

[maiden path]

flame spurt, stun grenade, flame spurt, stun grenade, and go crazy with a high cleave weapon in the horde

[open falcon]

More repetitive than Destiny

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/eternights-dies-of-peak-gif-6865996331563400114

[delicate shadow]

I simply chose to not give a flying fuck about penances

[frosty herald]

fashion

cant miss that

[delicate shadow]

sure I can

[sterile stone]

Mans doesn't care about fashion

Send him to gulag

[open falcon]

I literally cannot stop playing a game until I have 100% it

[open falcon]

Which

[north sedge]

i got the newer ones done because the hobo clothes look way better than zealots other stuff

[delicate shadow]

forgive me for not caring about the 30 fuckin' recolours you get from penances lmao

[sterile stone]

Liiiiiiisten here buddy

[delicate shadow]

plus I ended up completing the majority of them incidentally anyway

[sterile stone]

FatShork try their hardest

To recolor the same 5 outfits

[delicate shadow]

[maiden path]

1st i think

[sterile stone]

[maiden path]

better to ask someone who still plays the game

[open falcon]

The psyker helmets from the microtransaction shop look like zealot stuff

[sterile stone]

Funny you mention that

Cause zealot has unreleased psyker headgear

[open falcon]

The dev team are painful

Darktide vs Fallout 76 which has less support?

[sterile stone]

The vet's scion outfit looks ass

I hope it gets a glow up before release

Matter of fact

I hope we get the squad leader outfits eventually

Like shit

They've been sitting there in the game's code for over a year

[maiden path]

didnt fallout 76 get like 3 big ass updates last year

[sterile stone]

They're suppose to be getting a map expansion soon

Within the coming months

[maiden path]

fallout 76 fucks

i like dat game

[sterile stone]

The base building aspect is fun

It's a shame some of the nicer things are locked behind battle passes

And then the scam shop

[maiden path]

i like the chainsaw

causethe chainsaw is not balanced properl;y

[fleet zealot]

it still is on a shitty engine

[maiden path]

and you can kill everything in like 3 seconds

[delicate shadow]

zealot chat trying to have good taste in games (impossible)

[fleet zealot]

that I just can't enjoy, unless I have 3 friends minimum holding me down and playing with me

[maiden path]

jarvis boot up fallout new vegas sighe

[sterile stone]

I know you're a DbD player

[maiden path]

true

[sterile stone]

[fleet zealot]

the melee feels like shit, the ranged game feels like shit, the only feedback is the healthbar going down

[maiden path]

dbd fucking SUCKS

[delicate shadow]

I played it once and then never touched it again lmao

[fleet zealot]

dbd is competent

[maiden path]

i like dbd

but IT SUCKS

[fleet zealot]

idc how toxic it is

[maiden path]

i hate that dbd is the only good killer type game

[frosty herald]

Erm dragons dogma 2...

[sterile stone]

DBD is arguably the biggest parrallel I've seen in gaming

It's the most diverse community

[fleet zealot]

but it's a good game objectively, especially when compared to shit like evolved or the dbd clones, rip the Jason game tho

[maiden path]

ur taking on my speech mannerisms i see that

[sterile stone]

But also one of the most toxic

[north sedge]

the funniest thing to me is that the lead dev of fo76 was surprised early on that people wanted to work together instead of just deathmatch, in the game series about people banding together to make their own thing

[maiden path]

like a fucking venom suit

[delicate shadow]

Dragons Dogma being single player only kills it for me ngl

[maiden path]

dragons dogma being singleplayer makes it like 10x better for me

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-when-i-get-you-grab-hagscraft-hoarah-loux-gif-11194373446447194887

[delicate shadow]

I ain't spending over $100 on that

[sterile stone]

This is why I hate bugthesda

[maiden path]

cause I like everyone not using sorcerer

and killing everything in 3 seconds

[sterile stone]

Litterally tried to create a battle royale mode

[frosty herald]

You are passing up on peak

[sterile stone]

And it died cause the only time people played it

Was to unlock the cool shit

Then dropped it forever

[fleet zealot]

didn't the halo show guys not fathom how people could read emotion through a helmet so that's why chief has so many helmetless scenes in the show

[sterile stone]

Who woulda thought no one wants to play a pvp fallout game

And would

Oh idk

Play coop in fallout

[open falcon]

No they put in a few events and 2 mission areas

[fleet zealot]

fallout pvp sucked on launch and it sucks still to this day

[sterile stone]

Like the community has been asking for for years

[maiden path]

more then what we've got 😭

[fleet zealot]

it's like double the floatiness of regular combat because at least NPCs follow some rudimentary code

[frosty herald]

They put pittsburg into fallout 76

[north sedge]

maybe? i have no connection to halo at all

[frosty herald]

They put the pitt into 76

[maiden path]

the pitt was cool

[delicate shadow]

literally no one looked at skyrim/fo4 mechanics and went "yeah bro this would be great in pvp"

[maiden path]

too bad it was some stupid dlc thing

[frosty herald]

Oneshot builds or explosive miniguns

[maiden path]

pvp is just 30 stealth archers insta killing eachother

[sterile stone]

Literally all they had to do was take fallout 4 and make it a 4 player maximum coop

[frosty herald]

Beb

[sterile stone]

And people woulda been happy

[delicate shadow]

meanwhile mfs put blood sweat and tears into trying to make co-op mods lmao

[frosty herald]

How do you get the stealth crit bonus if you cant stealth...

[maiden path]

what...........................

[frosty herald]

Everyone sees you

[sterile stone]

I've said this a billion times

[maiden path]

u get ur stealth to 100........

and u can just walk infront of people

[sterile stone]

If fallout new vegas had 2 player coop

[maiden path]

skyrim stealth is so funny

[sterile stone]

Them steam numbers woulda still been mad high

[maiden path]

it operates on the idea of not sightlines

but sound and sightlines i think

[fleet zealot]

skyrim pvpers when I use marked for death shout which is bugged to this day

[maiden path]

so once ur at stealth 100 you have basically no real way to be seen

and crouching removes all sound

its so cooked

[fleet zealot]

the armor drain never expires on an entity it hits

[frosty herald]

15x stealth crit bonus instantly killing literally everything with a dragonbone dagger

[steep flame]

explosive combat shotgun

[sterile stone]

Bethesda games are meant to be bought so you can play the game you want when modders eventually have to fix every goof bethesda makes

[maiden path]

i think you can get 30x

with a speical weapon

[sterile stone]

Nah nah

Explosive laser rifles

[maiden path]

so you can one shot dragons

[frosty herald]

You mean dual wield with the jester gloves

[fleet zealot]

if you hit your companion with it, they would eventually get oneshot by anything, perma killing them if they weren't flagged story important

[maiden path]

yea

[steep flame]

that shit is not gas, please stop cooking

[maiden path]

i did that

if i can find my old photos

i did a cicero build

so it was just two ciceros in stealth insta killing everything

[fleet zealot]

see that's how I know starfield fuckin flopped cause there is nothing redeeming that game

it made 0 impact

[fair igloo]

mod/console command in a never ending gatling laser and use only that for the whole playthrough >:)

[sterile stone]

Bloodied explosive laser rifle with split beam so you have a rapid fire shotgun with the damage range of a assault rifle and not a shotgun

[fleet zealot]

even fo4 had companions stans I barely saw any fanart for starfield

[sterile stone]

I remember people sold these things on ebay

For like $50

[frosty herald]

Also the fact that there was little hype for it

[sterile stone]

Then they got removed and grandfathered

[steep flame]

have you ever used an explosive shotgun in fo4?

[maiden path]

todd howard is gonna die and out of his hand is gonna fall a usb with all the cut content of every bethesda game

[fleet zealot]

there was hype, just nothing behind it

[maiden path]

and its just gonna be 100x better

[fair igloo]

i think the biggest thing that put starfield in the grave was how modders said the foundation was SO bad that it was effectively impossible to be actually modded

[fleet zealot]

it didn't even have cool proof of concept like say darktide

[sterile stone]

I've used the spray and pray

[maiden path]

i got starfield for free with my gpu

[frosty herald]

The funniest thing was tyrone playing the game and selling it before release date and people coping it wasnt ass

[maiden path]

never played it

its just in my steam library

[sterile stone]

Starfield sucked so much ass the modding community gave up trying to make mods for the game

[fair igloo]

"Oh wow! Starfield seems somewhat promising, I hope the story is fun and original!"

"OK so you're a dragonstarborn and you need to visit these temples to get shouts star powers"

[steep flame]

that shits mid as hell, once you max out the combat shotgun it does like 10 damage each pellet and then the explosive effect does another 15 aoe damage per pellet

[fair igloo]

The only good thing about it was its shipbuilding system, the ship combat was also fun but u had to actively go out of your way to enjoy them cuz of how badly it integrated with the rest of the game 💔

[steep flame]

it 1 to 2 shots deathclaws

[fleet zealot]

my favorite was always the gauss rifle

[frosty herald]

Create a big box with your ship core outside of the middle so you never die

[sterile stone]

To be fair, once I got fallout 4 on pc, I used modded weapons cause the base game guns gave me terminal eye soreness

[sterile stone]

Like the guns in fallout 4 gotta be the most uninspired

Boring

And lazy

[steep flame]

fair enough

[sterile stone]

Shit I've seen

[steep flame]

the fallout 3 ar is literally just an fal

[fair igloo]

Also, the ground combat is genuinely very very bad as well
Even the older fallout games were more enjoyable

The fact they also locked basic gameplay mechanics behind perk points was insane to me

[sterile stone]

It looks like a bastardization of a g3a3 and a fnc

[steep flame]

i like the idea of using a maxim gun as an assault rifle

[fleet zealot]

true, but they function well enough

[frosty herald]

Can bethesda hire a single competent firearm animator

[sterile stone]

realisticlly no

[fleet zealot]

gauss rifle sniping got me to beat fo4 twice

it's just fun

[sterile stone]

Nothing about the guns in fallout 4 would make sense

[steep flame]

the starfield guns are like, multitudes worse then the fallout guns

[fleet zealot]

oh yea

[frosty herald]

I just brute force meleed the game

[fleet zealot]

bethesda gun design is ass

[fair igloo]

FO4 had very nice freedom with its weapon customization, fallout also just had generally better ground combat mechanics and at least rewarded the player with things like satisfying crits and gibbing enemies

[frosty herald]

The supposed ugly tube assault rifle

[sterile stone]

They're either be redundant or borderline breaking and would possibly blow up in your face if you fired a fallout 4 assault rifle irl cause of how it's designed

[maiden path]

i will defend it with my life

[fleet zealot]

honestly after fo4 i think they just went mask off and went "yea we have know idea how guns work I hope it looks cool to literally idiots"

[frosty herald]

Which was supposed to be a power armor lmg

[maiden path]

IT WAS MADE TO BE USED WITH POWERARMOR

NOT NORMAL HUMAN BODY

EXACTLEE

[steep flame]

one of the only reasons why i considered playing starfield was because i thought you could gib enemies

[maiden path]

give a power armor wearer guy it and it looks fine

[delicate shadow]

the fo4 "assault rifle" is just a fuckin' gimped lewis gun lmao

[maiden path]

its clearly supposed to be a machine gun type thing

yea

[fleet zealot]

reject the existance of assault rifle

[maiden path]

dinnerplate magazine and all that

[steep flame]

and its cool for that, if a little stupid looking

[fleet zealot]

embrace 2mm EC

[delicate shadow]

the hunting rifle was the only gun I could tolerate

[frosty herald]

I genuinely despise how bloody mess works in fallout 4

[maiden path]

embrace gauss rifle

[delicate shadow]

and the 10mm pistol I suppose

[steep flame]

handmade rifle is nice too

[fair igloo]

Yea I was superr disappointed which made me sad cuz i was actually really looking forward to starfield when it first came out! I can't believe its ground gameplay ended up being worse than the FO games 😭

[sterile stone]

The only guns Bethesda can make that doesn't look like a frankenstein of other irl guns is the AK and 1911

[fading vale]

fallout guns always felt pretty bad to me, I mean the combat in general is not good

[frosty herald]

It used to make enemies explode into parts but now they just explode and everything drops to the floor

In new vegas bloody mess just went BOOM

[steep flame]

i like the fo4 ground gameplay

[fleet zealot]

FO NV powerfisting

with the explosive one?

[steep flame]

the garand too

[fleet zealot]

hell yea

[sterile stone]

New Vegas with the damn grease gun

[fair igloo]

ik ik the fo4 ground gameplay is good! It's just I can't believe bethesda developed starfield for like however long and made it worse than like fo3's

[fleet zealot]

me and my companion

[sterile stone]

I've only seen the garand in new vegas

[fleet zealot]

just 2 gals punching the wasteland to death

[steep flame]

and thats the only game its in

go figure

[frosty herald]

New vegas had peak weapons

[sterile stone]

[frosty herald]

The dlc weapons were also hella cool

[maiden path]

new vegas rat killer

[fair igloo]

The k9000 💞

[frosty herald]

Laer my beloved

[fair igloo]

best gun ever

[maiden path]

i love this fucking thing

[fair igloo]

I don't care if it's not actually that good it's a little puppy

[sterile stone]

Beating some drugged out raider to death with a neon nuka cola sign

[frosty herald]

Also a crit with the anti material rifle was bugged so youd get like 1900 damage in 1 shot

[steep flame]

yall mfs be like "the fo4 assault rifle is so stupid and ugly" and then be like "k9000 ❤️❤️🐶"

[steep flame]

rat slayers based

[frosty herald]

Atleast theres a reason for it existing

[fair igloo]

it's a little dog idc if it's ugly

[sterile stone]

I'm allowing OWB guns to pass cause that dlc is just a parody of science fiction shit

[fading vale]

starfields guns might not be interesting but the gun feel is better than fallout (I haven't played new Vegas)

[maiden path]

semi automatic snipers are so cool

[frosty herald]

Actualy fuck all that

[maiden path]

fuck all those hunting rifles

[sterile stone]

Starfield double barrel shotgun is wild

[frosty herald]

The ranger sequoia was the best gun in new vegas

[sterile stone]

Square barrels, cylinder shaped shotgun shells

[sterile stone]

In what world

Does that make sense

[steep flame]

the combat was one of the only redeeming factors of starfield

but the guns are for sure the worst from bethesda

[fading vale]

ok and

[maiden path]

LAME!

i am no cowboy

i am courier

give me 300 million grenades

[calm salmon]

that gun has the worst firing mechanics I have ever seen

[fair igloo]

i think it had a ton of potential with its ship building and combat mechanics but i just didn't like the on foot elements

[fleet zealot]

BALLISTIC FIST

[calm salmon]

that bitch has like 20 MOA

[fleet zealot]

THAT'S IT

I LOVED THE BALLISTIC FIST

Me, my gf, and our pet robot

[calm salmon]

MOA = Minute of Angle

1 MOA = 1 circular inch of spread at 100 yards

20 MOA would be 20 inches at 100 yards

[fleet zealot]

god new vegas is great

[frosty herald]

Erm

Two step goodbye

[fleet zealot]

ahhahahaha

[fading vale]

I'm probably just too fixated on fallout combat feeling laggy or whatever

[fair igloo]

what fallout did you play??? 76????

[fading vale]

3 and 4

[steep flame]

wonky lenses

[fleet zealot]

makes wife mad 😦

[fair igloo]

accidentally swapped my precision lens for a fisheye lens oopsie daisies

[frosty herald]

Defender was also insanely cool

[steep flame]

76 has awful gameplay

[calm salmon]

fallout's combat never felt great to me because you either instantly remove the thing you're shooting at, or it takes ages.

[fading vale]

there was always so much input lag and it felt super weird

[fair igloo]

I never really felt like fallout's combat was really "laggy"

[steep flame]

me neither

[fair igloo]

the input lag I definitely noticed in 76 but i never had that in any other FO game

[calm salmon]

but yeah, I've never experienced the lag

I push button, gun fires

[fair igloo]

did u play on like a stadia or something

[calm salmon]

with no notable delay

[sterile stone]

God have you played starfield at high levels?

[fading vale]

idk man, always just felt bad to me

[steep flame]

no, why the fuck would i

[sterile stone]

Every enemy is a literal bullet sponge cause of how health values work

[steep flame]

its god awful at the lower levels

[calm salmon]

No I knew exactly what starfield would be when they did their pre-release ad campaign and just skipped it

[fair igloo]

Also fallout was always just fun to mess around in

[fleet zealot]

fall out combat is aged

[calm salmon]

my decision was validated by the discussion around it after release

[sterile stone]

smart tbh

[fading vale]

I've always had a good PC and obsess on the feel in every game

[fleet zealot]

i will say, 3 and nv aren't exactly fine wines

[fading vale]

spent multiple hours making starfield feel OK before I started playing it lol

[steep flame]

it sucks because i feel like 76 has some really cool world building and lore, it just sucks to play

[calm salmon]

new vegas is basically unplayable these days

same with FO3

like. . . literally

[fair igloo]

3 and nv's gameplay definitely show their age... NV's story does make up for it quite a bit tho!

[calm salmon]

you need to go find a commnity patch to get them to run on windows 10

[sterile stone]

I'ma be real, we ain't getting a new engine til Todd retires, which is more than likely after ES6

[calm salmon]

and NV STILL crashes when you alt-tab

[steep flame]

blood clart did not just say this

[fair igloo]

Idk why bethesda doesn't just remaster NV and stuff (legal thingies aside) on the fo4 engine that's basically like a sitting gold mine

[sterile stone]

Bethesda and being smart were two things that never went together

[calm salmon]

Considering they literally do not work on modern operating systems

[sterile stone]

You literally buy a bethesda game for the modding community

[calm salmon]

they are, by definition, unplayable.

[sterile stone]

Not bethesda

[steep flame]

they'd ruin it somehow

[fair igloo]

honestly after reading that i don't doubt it 💔

[fleet zealot]

my NV runs fine

[calm salmon]

Sure, there's a third party mod that patches them

[steep flame]

L + they patched it last year

[calm salmon]

but like cmon

[fleet zealot]

yea after the uhhh fuckin star wars battlefront classic fuck up

[frosty herald]

Do NOT remaster new vegas

[calm salmon]

after, checks notes, a decade

[fleet zealot]

I have no faith in remasters

[steep flame]

still works

[frosty herald]

They fuck up all of the mods like skyrim

[steep flame]

not unplayable anymore

[calm salmon]

still, that's years of a game being unplayable without a third party mod

but yes

I am, currently, wrong.

That said, bethesda has no good will with me.

Their games run like ass, are buggy to the core, and generally have fairly shallow stories

[fair igloo]

i'm talking less of skyrim vs skyrim anniversary edition and more along the lines of like porting oblivion or morrowind into skyrim's engine
or something idk i'm not very smart

[calm salmon]

they were fun when I was a kid, but there's better products out these days.

[fading vale]

starfields main story is so bad

[steep flame]

Theres a story to starfield?

[frosty herald]

Gamebryo is very sensitive and even the smallest update can fuck uplike 300 mods

[sterile stone]

I got news for you chief

[fading vale]

there were a few really cool side quests but the main story is just.....

[frosty herald]

I know

Its joever

[sterile stone]

They allegedly are planning on remastering fallout 3

[calm salmon]

Cool

so I can see the same green filter

but at 4k

instead of 720p

[fair igloo]

Well the remaster/port would obv be its own separate thing

Remastering it wouldn't affect the old FNV nor its mods

[steep flame]

You can turn off the piss and green filters for fo3 and nv

[fading vale]

one of the first things I did in starfield was mod out the filter

and mod in HDR and DLSS

[calm salmon]

Its why I still go back and play oblivion despite all of its faults

it has the best dlc storyline I've ever played

Sheogorath my insane beloved

[fair igloo]

90% of my time spent in starfield was spent designing and minmaxing my ship and then I basically just quit when I was told by ppl that the game actually deletes your ship when you start NG+

[calm salmon]

and there's no garbage vfx filter

[frosty herald]

replaces the original game or delists the previous game

[calm salmon]

just vibrant, or muddy, or dull, or bright environments.

[calm salmon]

But bethesda let the environments breathe of their own accord

instead of slapping a shitty filter over everything

[fleet zealot]

oh sweet summer child

that hasn't been true for years now

[sterile stone]

I won't lie chief

[fair igloo]

why is bethesda so evilll

[frosty herald]

Cant buy og skyrim no more

[fleet zealot]

oblivion kinda sucked but it's more just cause of age

like i can't play morrowind, it's for my ancestors

[sterile stone]

I'd buy the older bethesda games if I didn't have to wade through a sea of never ending coomer mods

[fading vale]

oblivion was really cool at the time

[calm salmon]

oh I just play vanilla oblivion

[frosty herald]

Fallout tactics seemed cool

[calm salmon]

there's some QOL mods that help address stuff like the terrible leveling system

[delicate shadow]

wdym, big naturals parthurnax is integral to the story

[fleet zealot]

diablo 2 without expansions is like, the limit of age I can go back to in video games without simply feeling like I'm doing an excavation of ancient history

[frosty herald]

But its basically the story of wasteland 2

[sterile stone]

I will fight you

[calm salmon]

but I just gave up after awhile because yeh u rite

[sterile stone]

[fleet zealot]

BIG NATURALS PARTHURNAX NOOOO WAY

that can't be a real thing

[calm salmon]

too many prawn mods everywhere

[fleet zealot]

if that's a real thing i'm ending myself no fucking way

[delicate shadow]

it probably doesn't but it wouldn't surprise me if it did

[frosty herald]

Me wading through the mountain of skimpy outfit mods to find the colovian prince armor mod

[fading vale]

I definitely did not install an underwear mod and what not for oblivion when I was 13, certainly not

[sterile stone]

Bruh I remember I wanted to find a male hair styles mod for fallout 4 and liek the first 30 pages on popular were just giant milker mods or, skimpy outfits for females with massive body proportions

[fair igloo]

I remember first trying to mod skyrim and trying to look through mods to improve the models for everything..

[frosty herald]

Dont ever mod skyrim

[fleet zealot]

i can't do not safe for work mods or even games

[frosty herald]

I did it once and bruh

[fleet zealot]

i get too distracted by the actual gameplay and find the degen stuff annoying

[frosty herald]

Spent nearly a week on the game

[fair igloo]

I did one modded skyrim playthrough and the only reason i stopped was because it got so unstable that it would literally CTD every 1 or 2 minutes or less

[delicate shadow]

skyrim is only tolerable with mods tho, you can easily get proper mods without needing to look at any of the degen stuff

[fleet zealot]

i have a friend who will install and use those kinds of mods on every game that has them

[delicate shadow]

nexus mods has a filter for a reason lol

[sterile stone]

Bruh finding mods for male characters that aren't garbage and are high quality is like finding a needle in a haystack

[steep flame]

Me when bloodborn gets a pc port

[frosty herald]

You now have a blur option for adult mods

Cause some of them you kinda need

[subtle cedar]

Unmodded oblivion > skyrim
Modded skyrim > oblivion

[delicate shadow]

the armoury mods are good

[sterile stone]

Yeah

[frosty herald]

I need to experience to logarius wheel

[sterile stone]

But I wanna travel the waste in some regular ass clothing

Like jeans and a hoodie

There's like 10 mods for females

[fair igloo]

I always think about what kind of playthrough i want to do and then download a bunch of mods to basically make my own custom powertrip playthrough and that's one of my guilty pleasures

[sterile stone]

And like 1 for guys

And it's a fucking rip from call of duty

[fair igloo]

i decided i wanted to play as a necromancer/summoner and downloaded like 20 diff mods for it and turned it into an RTS 😭 😭

[fading vale]

I did install a general mod for cyberpunk to make the whole game a bit more NSFW but it was less degen and more like, making it feel more appropriate to cyberpunk and the environment

[delicate shadow]

first mod I got for Fo4 was the fuckin' NCR ranger gear

[fleet zealot]

this ferret's name is juniper

[sterile stone]

poke it's belly

[fleet zealot]

it is not mine i stole the image of social media

[frosty herald]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/88099

[fleet zealot]

where i stalk ferret posters

[fair igloo]

And that anti materiel rifle mod that u get from that museum in the ghoul infested townnn it's sooo good

[maiden path]

i use dat mod

[frosty herald]

Dies from peak armor

[sterile stone]

I've been bamboozled

To gulag with you

[maiden path]

all of that guys armors are cool

[sterile stone]

Seeing people turn skyrim into a darksouls lite is wild

Just shows me how much more immersive ES would be with dodge mechanics

But that would probably cause every coder at bugthesda to have their synapeses burst into a fire

[fleet zealot]

i have admitted this before

like, multiple times the past year

[sterile stone]

To gulag with you

Ferretless

[fair igloo]

knowing bethesda they'd take a generic dodging animation, give the player iframes and then call it a day 💔

[fleet zealot]

this is panini who is full of determination

[sterile stone]

Have you ever seen a albino ferret

[fleet zealot]

yes!

[calm salmon]

Shivering Isles>Modded Skyrim

lets be honest

the best part of oblivion is The Shivering Isles

[delicate shadow]

I'ma try ESO with the missus later

[sterile stone]

Word

[delicate shadow]

hopefully is gud

[calm salmon]

i got mad at eso when it first came out

but I'd never played an MMO before

[delicate shadow]

only cost $10 so if it sucks nbd

[calm salmon]

and just got slapped in the face with all these MMO mechanics

[sterile stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAySrD0eloU

[calm salmon]

on top of monetization to make the MMO shit less unbearable

[sterile stone]

Modders out here revamping the game

[calm salmon]

not the game for me

[sterile stone]

For free

I wish I could find the mod

[delicate shadow]

imagine doing things for games for free

[fair igloo]

they turned it into minecraft's epic fight mod wtf that's so cool 😭

[sterile stone]

Of this guy who's character had dreads

But one of the mods he had

Made armors more animated

Instead of the stiffness you see in some in skyrim

[calm salmon]

can you promise that you've never done that

not once

not ever

[delicate shadow]

no I'm that exact thing

[sterile stone]

You'd see your cape or scarf move with the wind

[delicate shadow]

I've done way too much free shit

even right now

in this moment

[calm salmon]

have tried just making them pay for it

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[delicate shadow]

I have no paycheck and I must scream

[calm salmon]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[frosty herald]

Your talking about hdt smp

Which is a framework for physics

[calm salmon]

speaking of doing things: Here's to hoping the new darktide patches this year are good

the gun thing has me interested

but at most I'm just vaguely interested

[sterile stone]

Mans a intern

Pain

[delicate shadow]

less than that even

[calm salmon]

internships should be banned

full stop

just like. . . that shit is such a fucking stupid ass reality

"Come work for us"

"how me r make rent"

"fuck you"

what a shit state of being

[delicate shadow]

traineeships and apprenticeships should be the minimum

[sterile stone]

I won't lie

Applying for jobs they really do ask some dumb ass questions

[calm salmon]

at some point it just makes you wonder if the nuclear reset button is truly a bad thing

[sterile stone]

"Why do you want this job?"

Shit idk

I want money

[delicate shadow]

man some of the shit I've had to do for pre-interview testing

is unreal

[calm salmon]

I told an interviewer this exact answer once

"I can't eat without a job"

[delicate shadow]

one of them was like a 2 hour language and response test

why am I doing this

[sterile stone]

Bruh wtf

[delicate shadow]

this isn't highschool

wtf

why

but alas I am in destination fucked and have to make do I suppose

[calm salmon]

have you tried doing crack about it

[drifting wolf]

scorched earth protocol

[delicate shadow]

I ain't got the money for crack yo

[calm salmon]

look

there's a dumpster behind wendey's

[sterile stone]

Born to early to get paid to explore planets

And get killed by sideways glass

[calm salmon]

and you can do anything for money there

[calm salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvANy49Kqhw

[delicate shadow]

born too early for star trek utopia

born too late to ride and die on the steppes

[calm salmon]

just do the greek invasion 2.0

become the steppe tribe you were born to be

[sterile stone]

The beat goes hard

[sharp zodiac]

Gao

[calm salmon]

the whole song goes hard

and its uh

scarely accurate for being a joke song about a video game

[frosty herald]

Outer mid

[sterile stone]

Shame they dropped the sequel

[calm salmon]

i never played outer worlds

[sterile stone]

You know what's wild

[calm salmon]

I just know the speedrun is like 10 minutes long

[sterile stone]

Every sci fi media I've seen has Earth in one of two phases

Earth is a paradise everyone wishes to go to if they get rich

Or earth is so fucked that it's uninhabitale

[calm salmon]

gundam

gundam does both of those

[drifting wolf]

terra is both

[calm salmon]

I wish the gundam tv shows were better

I get that they're anti-war statements

but I dunno. They don't do it super well IMO

[maiden path]

anti war...

now show them a badass robot

doing way shit

*war

[calm salmon]

eh, that's a good juxtoposition

just that the stories aren't all that well written

"WAR GOOD!"

"WAR BAD!"

"GIANT ROBOT FIGHT OVER WHO IS RIGHT!"

and its not really any more deep than that

[delicate shadow]

time is a flat circle

[maiden path]

ur ass is not rust from da hit tv series true detective

[calm salmon]

I'm pretty sure time isn't going to exist in a few hundred years anyway so what does it matter

and it sure as shit won't exist to me in the next 40-60

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-the-witch-from-mercury-witch-from-mercury-witch-from-mercury-sunday-gif-26945742

look at the time

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/mobile-suit-gundam-sleggar-law-mirai-noa-slap-0079gundam-gif-20884291

[calm salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/mobile-suit-gundam-gundam-thunderbolt-full-armor-gundam-psycho-zaku-io-fleming-gif-27664869

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/gurren-lagann-shine-robot-sky-ready-gif-4963558

[fleet zealot]

let's go, lesbians!

[maiden path]

mech posting

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-armored-core-6-armored-core-vi-ac-ac6-gif-3421801719789836237

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/neon-genesis-evangelion-unit01-gif-11426248

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-one-last-kiss-neon-genesis-evangelion-evangelion-thrice-upon-a-time-mari-gif-25498910

Evangelion really said get a wife you jobless losers frfr

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-6-armored-core-ac-piper-pay-gif-2182564217905094612

[misty mason]

Let's show them how awful war is by showing them how rad war is - Gundam

[fair igloo]

"Why do you want this job?"
"Because you're offering it"

[sterile stone]

Mfs really expect you to be like

"Oh me oh my when I was glossing amongst job hirings and golly gee I just had to apply"

Like bruh

If I didn't have to be here

I wouldn't

Matter of fact the best example of this is when the gov was paying people who were unemployed out here

So many people quit their jobs cause they realized they can get paid staying home

So every business had a employee shortage for like 4 months

[misty mason]

Ok

[sterile stone]

And business owners had to petition to our gov to repeal the thing

[misty mason]

"Stop giving people barely enough money to live on, that's our thing." - Low wage employers

[slow galleon]

I swear every time I go to zealot chat it is always about something completely unrelated to zealot let alone Darktide as a whole. Really highlights the complete insanity of zealot players

[misty mason]

What no substantive updates for 4+ months does to a community

[zealous mesa]

Got paid 12 dollars an hour in 2019

[slow galleon]

At least they don’t give up on the game. They also still give periodic patches to help but Fatshark does a decent job at keeping the game alive considering they aren’t a huge company

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/ay-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-funny-haha-gif-5699317

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-guilty-gear-bridget-guilty-gear-shiggy-wiggy-gif-26441575

[sterile stone]

If I had a dollar for everytime someone posts this copy pasta

I'd be able to cover rent for the next few months

[slow galleon]

?

Wasn’t a copy pasta but now after re reading it does damn sound like one

[vast radish]

oh god this is actually kinda tempting

[slow galleon]

Get that slaughter 4

Shit stats otherwise

[vast radish]

ughhhh why do the stats have to stink

the perks are on point too

[foggy trail]

trying to do a momentum build for the crusher, is this good? https://imgur.com/6BlocGp

[slow galleon]

Very similar to what I use. I usually use the speed node at the bottom as well as middle aura for funny impact

I don’t bother with scourge though because crits aren’t very prevalent with the crusher

[left iron]

Decent, but theres room for improvement. Disdain at the top left is pretty bad, it procs every second hit instead of each hit. Punishment at the bottom left is not great on crusher, since it has great stagger already, you dont need to boost it at all. You dont have any other way of regening toughness other than your ability and melee kills without any boosts either. I would put the 3 or so points you get if you remove the talents mentioned and pick up second wind just below scourge at the top

[spare talon]

uh?

[hushed knoll]

HI ICE

[left iron]

Hey Stan

[sharp zodiac]

Dude really trying to act cool

Cross armed pose ahh mf

[misty mason]

who dat

Doon npc?

[sharp zodiac]

Amar

He came from afar

[misty mason]

What?

[sharp zodiac]

He came from afar, as his name is Amar, he Is a wolf with a car

[misty mason]

ok

[delicate shadow]

there are 2 wolves inside us, only 1 knows how to drive stick

[minor sage]

My name is jafar

I come from afar

There's a bomb in my car

[sterile stone]

Mans posted

fams wearing timbs

You just can't see em

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/timbs-steering-miata-miata-gang-blownmiataguy-gif-1373950705031246684

[sterile dune]

why do you want unarmored perk on the revolver?

[fleet zealot]

punishment isn't really needed and you can sub that and scourge out

yee, both punishment and scourge can go

[calm salmon]

I know the process to driving a stick but I'd never do it irl

I can't moneyshift my car in a video game

(I can, but it has all of zero lasting impacts on the longevity of the car cause its a video game)

[fleet zealot]

i'd drop those and go twbs or good balance instead

[fading vale]

yeah that revolver is super dead

[calm salmon]

This one?

[fading vale]

naw, needs a toughness generator

[fleet zealot]

something like this

[fleet zealot]

then go for ewew, vicious offering or blood redemption or second wind i guess

[fading vale]

just nab second wind and call it a day

[fleet zealot]

figured backstab cdr+ relic would be a pretty good toughness generator especially with how crusher knocks enemies on their ass

[fading vale]

I mean good balance won't be nearly as good as always generating toughness in any situation

[fleet zealot]

true

[sterile basalt]

Blood redemption + second wind is nice

Vicious offering for sword also pretty nice

[fleet zealot]

yee, every other attack for crusher is a heavy attack

could easily go EWEW and vicious offering

[fading vale]

could also drop the relic upgrade and disdain

[sterile basalt]

Vicious offering is like +30% toughness in one heavy sword swing

[fleet zealot]

this isn't heavy sword

this is crusher

[sterile basalt]

I tried it for crusher and it wasn’t that reliable idk why

[delicate shadow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af916c4-4a38-472a-af64-dc41f5bca0fa/chorus?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[fleet zealot]

it shouldn't be

[delicate shadow]

become god

[fleet zealot]

crusher weaves heavies constantly

[fading vale]

cause you aren't getting a bunch of cleave heavy kills

[fleet zealot]

every other attack between lights

[sterile basalt]

Yea ig

[spare talon]

you dont

[fleet zealot]

if you fall back into light spamming then I can see it, but l1->h2 loop should get you a hefty bonus

[sterile dune]

but you changed over to it?

[fleet zealot]

the only reason i don't run it is that I run martyrdom fury of the faithful crusher anyways

[sterile basalt]

No I was doing L1 > H2

[spare talon]

look at the surrounding area

its not my gun

[sterile basalt]

Wasn’t the most impactful in my experience

[spare talon]

also funny how he was the most capable out of the 3 other people

[sterile dune]

ah ok yeah I don't typically click photos in here

lol

yeah weird as hell, I think majority of players dont really look up anything about the game they just play

[fading vale]

why would you voluntarily put punishing salvo on a zarona

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-ds-frustration-frustration-slamming-dark-souls-slamming-gif-23086538

i dont know

[delicate shadow]

to watch the world burn I suppose

[sterile dune]

for when you can't shoot them the first time lol

[fading vale]

I don't even know what line of logic you could come up with to convince yourself it is a good idea

[delicate shadow]

or maybe he literally only lands the 3rd and 4th shots when he tries to use it