zealot-class

[placid fiber]

Yeah

Barb has a widow's peak

[nimble fiber]

shit idk

[misty nova]

They made the mk15 way better than the MK2 it's not even healthy

[nimble fiber]

never noticed

[narrow matrix]

"treatment rooms" sounds ominous

[frosty herald]

es ist over fur mich?

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-gif-24862068

[fading vale]

I've always thought the mk2 moveset just felt a bit weird

but the mk15 is too simple

so idk

[placid fiber]

Yeah I will agree with Laz on that

To be fair: Vt2 weaponry aren't known for complexity

and the mk 15 is just an executioner sword

[frozen glen]

the executioner sword is the hardest weapon to master in vt2

[fading vale]

I feel like weapons that require some thought should be stronger than weapons that require 0 thought

[sterile stone]

I say we get a thunder hammer who's activation is just you slamming it on the ground causing a knock back aoe

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[misty nova]

That makes it more reliable though, all the lights are horizontal, the heavies vertical

[frosty herald]

Add bret sword in darktide

Dont even change its look

[fading vale]

aka simple

[sterile stone]

Who wants to go around using French weapons tho

[placid fiber]

Bret sword would go hard in Darktide, imo

[sterile stone]

[nimble fiber]

baguette sword

[placid fiber]

As a heavy sword variant

[ripe quest]

Mk II has an uncapped H1 that hits harder than cleave lights. It allows you to take advantage of +cleave, H1 L2 (optional bc) does solid crowd damage against mixed hordes. In particular, the thing shits on Flak elites due to the chain weapons hitting Flak hard + the 0.75x Flak hitmass mod on the H1. The ST damage isn't 1 shotting Crushers, but it's a very similar caliber of ST for everything else to the XV since the Evis has good ST damage in general.

[placid fiber]

Heavy Sword mk 1: Bret longsword

Hell give us the billhook

[drowsy steppe]

😫

FS is evil for not returning this

[placid fiber]

billhook would be dope in Darktide, compared to the current weapons

[sterile stone]

You can make youself shirtless

[placid fiber]

It would be unique

[sterile stone]

I saw someone in a pub with it

[drowsy steppe]

wait you can?

[sterile stone]

Like a few months ago

[nimble fiber]

through mod?

[sterile stone]

I dunno how they did it

[rancid fern]

i wanna kill a dh fast with chainsword. what's my build?

[sterile stone]

Coulda been a mod

[frosty herald]

You dont

[sterile stone]

But they were a shirtless psyker

[ripe quest]

gimme a Sickle w/ the billhook special attack.

[north sedge]

turn it into a hammer

[nimble fiber]

hammer gaming

[drowsy steppe]

probably a Shred/crit Chainsword with chastise. Oh and put unyielding

[misty nova]

I see

[fading vale]

the greatest DT moment shall never return

[drowsy steppe]

Sisters of battle aint nothin compared to 2 shirtless bonk strokers

[ripe quest]

Purge the Unclean, get Duellist and Second Wind, Martyr or Judgement for Keystone and Fury of the Faithful for ult. Technically like, a Shred + BL Chainsword would be best for boss dueling but just run a normal SS/Wrath + Rampage/Shred one because it makes it absurd for literally everything else.

It's not gonna compete with a Mk XV Evis for Unyielding damage or come close to either Thammer.

[nimble fiber]

shirtless bonk stroker sister of battle tho?

[drowsy steppe]

theyre not actually shirtless

[misty nova]

Would shredding the dh then ult better than using ult and then shredding then ?

[ripe quest]

With chain weapons, if you want the ult buff outside of just the guaranteed crit, ult after the first tick of damage.

[placid fiber]

Those are some giant buggos

[ripe quest]

Sadly doesn't work with Shroudfield rn.

[elfin steppe]

i quit

tf am i supposed to do

[drifting wolf]

diplomacy

[fading vale]

throw a 500

[drowsy steppe]

4D mocracy ig

[fading vale]

or a mech

[elfin steppe]

i don't have it

[drifting wolf]

accept death

[ripe quest]

Spear, RR, EAT, Patriot Mech, Railgun, Airstrikes, 500kg, Orbital like anything explosive, SEAF Artillery

[drowsy steppe]

It's always don't sugarcoat but never saltshake it

[fading vale]

die repeatedly and kill them with your hellpod

[north sedge]

orbital railcannon

hellpod

[fading vale]

throw a 380 and pray

[ripe quest]

throw a 120 and ball

[misty nova]

So crit tick for bosses

[placid fiber]

Just pray, to be more precise

[solar gorge]

throw your dead teammates at them

they'll know what to do

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/kingbluprint-gif-21436316

[ripe quest]

For bosses you're better off just ulting after the first tick if it's possible. Smth like a Chaos Spawn that isn't aggro'd onto you or a DH in the same situation ulting prior can be useful.

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-11696290149702695690

[elfin steppe]

is life

[placid fiber]

apparently my shirt was on inside out...

[misty nova]

Toughness, my beloved

[placid fiber]

and I had my shirt on for the last like... 6 hours like this...

Ugh, idk why but I'm a bit dizzy today when walking. I blame obamacare

@fading vale Does Stan sometimes sound like this? lol

[fading vale]

when he is making fun of something perhaps

[placid fiber]

I like to think this is how stan actually sounds when talking, and whatever decipherer thing he has lets us hear human language

[north sedge]

no this is stan https://streamable.com/l7pzlz

[placid fiber]

That sounds like Stan lol

Even his words are twisted sometimes

[median steeple]

lmao bro started singing as a defense mechanism

[north sedge]

he moans alot too

[fading vale]

sorry I was just stretching

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/dnnoh6

[fading vale]

where's the Dough one

[north sedge]

i do not have that one

i do have that though

[placid fiber]

lol I'm so wet xD

[north sedge]

he spilled like two more times

[fading vale]

had to get a new drink

[placid fiber]

I have yet to critically spill a drink on myself while gaming >.>

I think anyway

I can't remember doing it

I've gotten food on me before, tho

[placid fiber]

Wow, look at these "normal" human ears Lazorr...

Anyway I've learned my lesson... no more drinking 6 day old coffee >.>

[fading vale]

[ivory marlin]

Coffee nasty

I’ve never enjoyed the flavor

[fading vale]

I went through a bitter flavor phase with coffee and beer, I guess I still like bitter though

I don't put anything in my coffee usually

[ivory marlin]

I cant enjoy coffee

[misty mason]

Laz out here eating the coffee beans without water

[ivory marlin]

Its bad

Tea is good tho

I like tea

[placid fiber]

I only put something in my coffee if it tastes really bad, rather than bitter

Sometimes it just... doesn't taste good

Then it is bitter and disgusting

[misty mason]

Why are you putting things in your coffee that taste really bad

[placid fiber]

Cause

I wanna explore

the world of

nastiness

[misty mason]

Is that the new WoW expansion?

[ivory marlin]

Omg

I slightly remember that reference

[placid fiber]

Fuck no

Fuck WoW lol

[foggy trail]

trying to do a build where I take chorus and martyrdom, the only issue is for my final point I cant decide between ecclesiarch's call or duellist, any suggestions?

[fading vale]

What is ecclesiarchs

[ripe quest]

+Damage when you ult w/ Chorus

[fading vale]

I don't generally recommend chorus upgrades

[ripe quest]

Probs Duellist, just due to how potent it is imo. Randoms won't be able to take advantage of the damage bonus to its full extent.

[placid fiber]

Hope, that always repays itself with dispair

Except when you get a run with 3 top-tier players who somehow end up maximizing it by accident

[ember yew]

you sure you dont want crit CDR (instead of martyrdom) so you can just spam chorus?

[acoustic dune]

not gonna lie

melee psycher is fun

[vocal pulsar]

thanks for your honesty

That was big of you

[placid fiber]

Now we murder rite?

[maiden path]

duelist is the best psyker melee

just cause it acts like a better rapier

[acoustic dune]

do you mean genocide?

[acoustic dune]

i perfer the psycher sword

cause i love being able to block boolet

[delicate shadow]

wrong

[delicate shadow]

redeemed

[stable cypress]

Coffee and tea both own

[placid fiber]

I got a lap kitty :3

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-youre-right-youre-goddamn-right-gif-12030781

[placid fiber]

I'm with this

[foggy trail]

is marytr not a good build anymore? all the bulds I see are judgement or piety

[ivory marlin]

im glad

[maiden path]

i dont think it ever was a good build

[delicate shadow]

hi glad

[royal vortex]

oh my god i forgot he turned you into sheila

[delicate shadow]

martyr is a good build lol, people just don't like it because it's braindead

[delicate shadow]

yeah I got fuckin' annihilated

like Martyr will get you insane DR, good attack speed and good bonus damage

there's literally no downside other than it's less interesting than the other keystones overall

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/t4n8v8

consider this

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-helldivers-surprised-shocked-scared-gif-14616193401603705407

[royal vortex]

automaton scum outplayed until the bitter end

[delicate shadow]

that was pog

actually kicking ass for most of that and then boom

[royal vortex]

2 dudes with recoilless rifle kits on those missions cuz u get guaranteed dropship/bug breach spawns

and u just destroy

[delicate shadow]

powerful

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/zwigeo

apparently on the loaders end ( @frank night) i was just staring into the sky

prompting him to question my methods

(this was after i had already dropped a tank on my head)

[frank night]

the tube was waving around

consuming my ammo

[royal vortex]

when i tried to load you

you ran about and could not locate an enemy

[north sedge]

It is interesting how much the eat is talked about when the rr can do that

[royal vortex]

prompting great misfortune

[royal vortex]

i think its really a matter of bugs vs bots

[frank night]

The RR needs a butler

[royal vortex]

because ppl seem to hate bots

and with bugs 2 eats every minute or so is fairly sufficient for most purposes

[frank night]

also you only usually need more than one shot vs titans and if the titan is in range it will get a double kill

[north sedge]

I don't think the self reload is that bad but obviously a rocket butler is a big deal

[royal vortex]

the nice thing about recoilless on bugs is like

u dont have to sit there and wait for a callin

if u have the 100% callin time eats suddenly become very annoying

[north sedge]

Yea

[frank night]

our position is that we hope arrowhead makes it so that people can just attach to you to load you

instead of having to chain a backpack guy to you forever in case a titan comes out of that breach

[north sedge]

I also just generally don't run the other backpacks / support weapons often

[royal vortex]

there is a great deal of fun to be had dropship swatting

[north sedge]

Indeed

[royal vortex]

ive started to get a feel for the falloff so that i can make 200m+ shots

[frank night]

the only reason the rocket team occurred is because we both had the rifle

otherwise it's too annoying

[royal vortex]

yeah

ive done it with dough a couple times where we both bring it

and take turns commencing the dropship murder

[north sedge]

Kos demanded my backpack yesterday as well

[royal vortex]

shouldve turned her into a curtain

[north sedge]

Alternatively you can also just call another rr when cd is up

[royal vortex]

yea

[calm salmon]

dogshit

they become dogshit

[royal vortex]

ur mr hyperbole man

u hyperbolize

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-we-do-in-the-shadows-horror-comedy-film-wwdits-laszlo-beard-gif-17726209

[delicate shadow]

hyperbolognese

[royal vortex]

very true

[frank night]

extra call in time on EATs just means you have to bait the charger in a convenient direction

[royal vortex]

or stick the beacon to his head

[frank night]

but it do become a problem if the charger has a bunch of backup dancers

[royal vortex]

which i have found out does one shot now

[frank night]

I got the charger kill with a supply drop earlier

without knowing i was fighting a charger

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[frank night]

i threw the drop way off ahead

and then the charger ran past me

and skidded to a stop underneath it

[royal vortex]

my favorite is

[frank night]

bugs have mental health issues too

[royal vortex]

i just forgot what i was gonna say

what the fuck

where did the words go

[frank night]

same place that supply drop went

object permanence oscar

[royal vortex]

i have flabbergasted many people over the course of my life with how incapable i am of remembering where the things i have placed are

[vocal pulsar]

Alzheimer's and autism

Deadly combo

[royal vortex]

perish

[delicate shadow]

me when I enter a room and forget why I did

[royal vortex]

god damn i legitimately have no clue what the 2nd half of that sentence was supposed to be

[left iron]

[delicate shadow]

actually there are times I open the fridge and forget why I'm looking in the fridge

[royal vortex]

it keeps life interesting

mental curveball

[delicate shadow]

I think it's an ADHD thing lmao

brain go brrr

[royal vortex]

😔

[delicate shadow]

why yes I can't multitask at all but I'm also always multitasking ty brain

[royal vortex]

if i had full control over what i focused on i would be unstoppable

its a self imposed limitation

[patent patrol]

Should I buy this devil claw just for rampage 3 for my other one? I'm working on a crit build devil claw and it only has rampage 2 since I didn't have many blessings unlocked for the weapon

[coarse birch]

true

very relatable

[royal vortex]

upgrading to t3 generally isnt worth the melk coins

i only buy melk stuff if its t4

[patent patrol]

to be fair it's 2.2k and I have like almost 5k rn.

and contracts are in 3 hours so

I can get it all back

[royal vortex]

this is not a problem until you see multiple items in the shop you want the day after purchasing it

as has happened to many of the greats

it's a 4% power dif ur not really gonna notice it

[patent patrol]

Well idk when I'm gonna get a higher rampage

cause I'm unlucky with consecrating

I keep getting rampage 2

idk what to do at this point

[north sedge]

You shouldn't be getting t2 consecration basically ever

[placid fiber]

I wonder how many times Josho has said "perish"...

6 pages worth

or rather 5 and some change

[north sedge]

He's concerned about the perishables in his fridge, but keeps forgetting

[placid fiber]

Must be

Or he's from a dutch community

[coarse birch]

josho? forgetting?

[calm salmon]

maybe

but the last thing I want to do is wait 20 seconds when a pack of chargers show up

the modifier itself is actually dogshit

the weapons being affected by it are wh

whatever for the most part

[placid fiber]

What about if chargers were able to become battery fuel for your weapons?

cause they charge stuff

[tropic harbor]

Best way to beat chargers: fight bots

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

[tropic harbor]

Also useing hammer against chargers works too

[sterile stone]

MMOs must be hell

[delicate shadow]

runescape I had no issues with

every other MMO was hell though yeah

I could not get through the levelling processes in WoW or FFXIV

I'd lose interest so fuckin' fast

[sterile stone]

Shit like FF14 killed it

I tried it on PS

And bruh leveling was a fucking SLOG

[boreal cedar]

tried a auric damnation

and holy shit the modifier ther

is fucking terrifying

[placid fiber]

They do that yeah lol

[boreal cedar]

crusher land

[median steeple]

hmmm mauler spam

better than rager spam

[calm salmon]

I've gotten really good about just rodeo-ing them

they're not a hard enemy

its like crushers

terribly designed, fucking annoying in large numbers

but they're not "hard"

[delicate shadow]

yeah I could not vibe

but also those kinds of combat systems just aren't my jam

[north sedge]

Chargers are fine

[ripe quest]

Charger vs. 1 (one) mag from my Redeemer

[median steeple]

lmao

[nimble fiber]

honestly yes

[frosty herald]

did you unlock the teleport backpack early?

thats really cool

[sterile stone]

MMOs in general are weird

[frosty herald]

erm those are maulers🤓

[delicate shadow]

I'ma try ESO and see if I vibe with that, what I watched seemed aight

[sterile stone]

I'm just waiting on the day we get a proper post apoc survival game that has coop

[delicate shadow]

only cost $10

[frosty herald]

subscription based mmos BLEH

[sterile stone]

Black Desert

[nimble fiber]

bruh

[delicate shadow]

runescape I can forgive being subscription based

mostly because you can get around the subscription via in-game currency

but also even when you couldn't do that shit was like $7 a month or smth

[frosty herald]

black desert is blabantly pay2win ive heard

and just an extreme grind if you dont want to pay

[delicate shadow]

I got a friend who is super into lost ark

but I've never really looked into it

[sterile stone]

Only thing I've really seen from BD

[calm salmon]

(1) charger is fine

[sterile stone]

Is people running around with half naked females

[calm salmon]

5 chargers and their cadre of minions is not fine

[north sedge]

a flock of chargers is fine

[calm salmon]

usually this happens at extract, but the "spawn changes" haven't been at all consistent for me besides that.

"we lowered the amount of chargers in 7, 8, and 9"

Nothing changed

🤔

[calm salmon]

still better than a pile of devastators I'll grant you that

nothing like walking around the corner and seeing 8 of those things russian nesting doll each other

[frosty herald]

cap asf

[north sedge]

is definitely less in my experience, plus they're pushovers now

[frosty herald]

at most on helldive ive seen 5 chargers at one time

but never above that

[calm salmon]

I'm still seeing 5-7 per fight because patrols just auto-zone in on you when you're at an objective, which is really annoying. I'm already dealing with the objective spawns. I don't need every patrol in a 200m radius to know where I'm at too

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[calm salmon]

that said, I just think that bugs are badly designed because your weapon choices are slim pickings.

Bots are bad because who the fuck thought aimpunch was fun when you need to fight 75-100 enemies at extract

[frosty herald]

extractions arent that bad atm

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-love-lucy-okay-idk-gif-16447471

[calm salmon]

they're random

so nobody has the same experience

which is infuriating

[north sedge]

Is game of chance

[frank night]

if you're at extract you're p much fighting for a tiny extra bonus that you might be capped on

so the tension isnt there if you dont want it

[north sedge]

Stan screaming like elmo receiving oral keeps things spicy

[nimble fiber]

lmao

[fair igloo]

NOOO WAY driver nephi was the last thing I expected to see when I clicked on this chat

[boreal cedar]

there also was 80 crushers along with those 80 maulers

[fleet zealot]

sounds like a job for a flamer

[boreal cedar]

i had a flamer

it was no ammo modifier tho

[frosty herald]

joel said fuck you specifically

[fair igloo]

obv the solution was to just shrimply switch to psyker and then carry the maelstrom >:D

[nimble fiber]

nah just pull out the crusher and deal with it

[boreal cedar]

i dont have a build outside of flamethrower psyker and i dunno how good that is on these guys

and thats lame anyway

we still won

[fair igloo]

soulblaze builds in general just destroy them

crusher zealot is also fun to take

[boreal cedar]

i only have a heavy chainsword a hammer a flamer and a bolter

[fair igloo]

soulblaze build + melee maelstrom = lots and lots of dopamine for psyker players

[boreal cedar]

that are usable at that difficulty

[calm salmon]

i'm playing helldive and my randoms are all level 20-25

if its just me

I literally just grenade myself until I have no respawns

because fighting over extract is easily the worst aspect of HD2 due the "rules" it has

[nimble fiber]

still need to build a god roll trauma at some point

[fair igloo]

i don't have quite a god roll trauma but if u can get one that's like 3/4 with decent overall stats with like 70% in everything it's def good enough

[calm salmon]

just a vanilla trauma staff with good stats is all you need

the blessings are whatever

[nimble fiber]

stats r good but I got the voidstrike blessing on it

[calm salmon]

and perks, even

[fair igloo]

well for a soulblaze build specifically i think warp nexus and blazing spirit* are essentially required but I thinkkk the perks don't matter as much ya

wait what's the

the blessing that gives +3 stacks on crit

[nimble fiber]

yeah I think I could never play a soulblaze build

if it required choosing more than just pc

[fair igloo]

blazing spirittt oops

[calm salmon]

Blazing Spirit and Warp Nexus

are the soulblaze blessings

[fair igloo]

ya!! just realized it

[calm salmon]

+3 stacks of soulblaze on crit, up to 20% crit chance at 80% peril

[frosty herald]

is soulblaze finally useful?

[calm salmon]

no

[nimble fiber]

eh

[calm salmon]

its fun

but not useful

[nimble fiber]

pc is fine

[calm salmon]

"ROOM TURN BLUE"

[nimble fiber]

rest is eh

[fair igloo]

wait what am I crazy?? isn't soulblaze like insane

[calm salmon]

really, all of the work is being done by the action of the trauma staff itself

[nimble fiber]

I mean

maybe?

[calm salmon]

and people are mad copium on the soulblaze aspect being useful

[nimble fiber]

Its just boring imo

[stone fern]

what are good weapons for levelling

[calm salmon]

like, its fun a build

but soulblaze isn't the thing some would think it is

[frosty herald]

soulblaze has horrid damage

[fair igloo]

Soo if I built a flurry trauma build and took out the soulblaze aspects I would get around the same effect??

[frosty herald]

the fire does a low amount of damage

[calm salmon]

chainsword, heavy sword, las pistol, agrip brauto, shredder autopistol

what else

devil claw

[nimble fiber]

crusher

[calm salmon]

agrip IAG and colomnus IAG

crusher is another one, yeah

[stone fern]

i tried dclaw im dying to things i can one shot on my other zealot

[nimble fiber]

crusher is my new illisi fr

[calm salmon]

smells like skissue?

You ARE leveling anyway

nothing is going to be spectacular

[stone fern]

i want a second zealot for blessing hunting

[calm salmon]

literally just get someone to hard carry you in damnation

or just do damnation as soon as you get it unlocked

and power level yourself

[frosty herald]

level until you get your class exclusive weapons

[placid fiber]

Ah that smell when you walk in the door and your neihbor was smoking some weed...

[fair igloo]

oh waittt, isn't there a scoreboard plugin that tracks things like soulblaze damage?

That might be useful to get

[stone fern]

my plan B is to wait for my friend to get some free time so we can spam maelstrom and insta die

[calm salmon]

yes

[fair igloo]

wut's the plugin?

[stone fern]

since you get like 2k xp from dying in maelstrom

[calm salmon]

I don't like the smell of weed anymore

[placid fiber]

My neighbor is chill

[calm salmon]

its a separate scoreboard

from the regular one

[nimble fiber]

[calm salmon]

i forget the name of it

[placid fiber]

I only know from him smoking it lol

[fair igloo]

wait sooo would i have to replace the normal one with the separate one orrr

[calm salmon]

I mean, I'm no boomer.

So I'm not gonna get mad at someone smoking.

[stone fern]

thats the most boomer way to phrase it

[calm salmon]

But I would rather smell curry cooking or something.

[nimble fiber]

boomer from left 4 dead?

[calm salmon]

now I will yell at someone cigarettes inside

that's actually vile

[misty nova]

We got a boomer here

[calm salmon]

and makes me physically ill

[placid fiber]

Yeah cigarettes inside is vile

when you have non-smokers

living with you

I got myself some cheddar jalapeno cheetos

Delicious

[nimble fiber]

ooh hell yeah

[sterile stone]

[calm salmon]

hi argus 👋

[nimble fiber]

personally prefer hot flamin cheetos crunchy tho

[sterile stone]

[calm salmon]

:(

not even a wave back

feelsbadman

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/grilled-cheese-cheesy-sandwich-grilled-cheese-sandwich-grilled-cheese-sandwich-day-gif-24183978

Have this grilled cheese

[calm salmon]

this pal accepts

[nimble fiber]

cheese

[sterile stone]

[calm salmon]

grilled cheese eis great

i love me some grilled cheese

[fair igloo]

yea i swear i'm not crazy am i?? I'm going through some of the gameplay I have and the soulblaze clips have like 200-300 damage ticks on enemies once i stack it up

[calm salmon]

right

[fair igloo]

am i like misunderstanding something or are those ticks not coming from soulblaze orr?

[sterile stone]

Was considering making a grilled cheese using pepper jack

[calm salmon]

but the trauma staff does 900 damage in a 5 meter radius

[sterile stone]

Pepper jack is the best cheese afterall

[calm salmon]

so the soulblaze aspect just isn't what's doing all your damage for you

it'll kill like

random shit you miss

but the T-Staff is doing all of the heavy lifting

[nimble fiber]

now u have to do it:

[sterile stone]

What do I pair with it tho

[calm salmon]

tomato soup

as the rules say

grilled cheese must have tomato soup

[fair igloo]

Yea but it's definitely not something to like completely throw away right? Considering how huge the actual hit the trauma staff's right click is, it'll be applying those soulblaze stacks to everything that gets staggered + the extra stacks of soulblaze from spamming fire shrieks right?

[nimble fiber]

hm

[fair igloo]

I thought that was the point of soulblaze trauma builds

since even things hit by the 5 damage stagger would still get +3 soulblaze stacks

[sterile stone]

It shal be done, whenever I go grocery shopping.

[fair igloo]

which effectively increases trauma's death radius by like a ton

[nimble fiber]

I would be down for some garlic baguette

[fair igloo]

i might just be misunderstanding stuff tho

[calm salmon]

I guess to specify my point on this issue:

Trauma Staff is a solid S++

Soulblaze is like a B-

[placid fiber]

I think my cat has a contact high lol

[calm salmon]

so while its not bad

the trauma staff is doing all the heavy lifting

[sterile stone]

Garglic bread goes hard with spaghet

[nimble fiber]

always eat it with bbq meat

[placid fiber]

Poor girl was home alone with the neighbor next door smoking lol

[calm salmon]

that and your other choice is "woo rending" on T-Staff

[fair igloo]

I feel like an easy way to actually see it would be getting the scoreboard mod that tracks soulblaze damage specifically and then comparing it to the total damage but i actually can't find it 😭

[calm salmon]

which is also big mediocre

since it requires teammates to shoot the things with cracked armor

[sterile stone]

Wait so like

[calm salmon]

which only works in voicecommed pre-mades

[sterile stone]

Steak and garlic bread?

[calm salmon]

as you can call it out "Rending stacks on crusher pack" and they can fire normally

[nimble fiber]

[calm salmon]

whereas a team will still just try to melee them

[nimble fiber]

yes

[calm salmon]

garlic bread goes hard with everything

I will not elaborate further

[nimble fiber]

put the garlic bread on the grill tho

[calm salmon]

now hear me out

[sterile stone]

Grilled garlic break

[calm salmon]

garlic bread grilled cheese

[sterile stone]

Word?

[nimble fiber]

ooof

[sterile stone]

If we doing that

Then might aswell add bacon

[nimble fiber]

lets barbecue guys lets do it

[calm salmon]

now we've got a melt cooking

and that's delicious

add some chives

a lil bit of onion

a propah melt

[placid fiber]

She's running a bit lop sided xD

[sterile stone]

Propah

[nimble fiber]

how u call those stick where u put meat on?

[sterile stone]

Cat got zoomies

[sterile stone]

Kebab?

[placid fiber]

Yeah lol

[nimble fiber]

hm nah

[calm salmon]

kebab is also delicious

[nimble fiber]

the small version

[calm salmon]

god bless the turks

[sterile stone]

Small kebab?

[frosty herald]

sate?

[nimble fiber]

small kebab bruh

wait lemme look it up

[sterile stone]

The turks and their coffee

[placid fiber]

Don't infect us with your tiny fancies!

[calm salmon]

I've never had turkish coffee

[calm salmon]

I haven't actually have had a huge variety of coffee come to think of it

[nimble fiber]

nun tiny

[calm salmon]

I mostly drink the german stuff

[nimble fiber]

just not kebab

[sterile stone]

I can't describe it

[placid fiber]

Woo! I still have more of this to watch! :3

[sterile stone]

But it doesn't taste like normal coffee

[frosty herald]

my brain isnt working atm but i know what it is

[nimble fiber]

nah turkish coffee is vile

with the coffee rest on the bottom

disgusting

[placid fiber]

I still got ~half an hour to go! :3

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-l-jackson-shocked-excuse-me-sam-jackson-what-gif-15938455

[calm salmon]

your gif game is peak

[nimble fiber]

if it is the coffee I imagine

[placid fiber]

I actually prefer Barb's non-mario content, but, he makes the mario content entertaining

[sterile stone]

I have the perfect reaction for almost any scenario

[placid fiber]

softlocked

[sterile stone]

You have no idea how hard it is, to find people who solo shit like Kenshi

Or do solo raids

[nimble fiber]

what is your reaction on dinosaurs smoking on a padelboat

[sterile stone]

But man when you find those videos

They're enjoyable

[placid fiber]

I mean he did a no death playthrough of elden ring

and all other from soft games

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-l-jackson-shocked-excuse-me-sam-jackson-what-gif-15938455

[frank night]

I have been pinged twice I will feed you into a food dispenser

[placid fiber]

What are your thoughts on a soul level 1 no weapons upgrade elden ring run?

[sterile stone]

I won't lie

If there's anyone I wanna see do a start to finish of Belden Bing

It's LMSH

[placid fiber]

Heh

[sterile stone]

I wanna see how dude plays against other bosses

[placid fiber]

He did a soul level 1 no weapon upgrades run of elden ring as well

and an items and bows only run

[nimble fiber]

lmao

[calm salmon]

speaking of watching things

[placid fiber]

It was hilarious

[calm salmon]

god I forgot how tedious it is to sculpt your youtube feed

I haven't been keeping up with it and its just a random trash

cause I watched one video or whatever

[sterile stone]

The ads I get on youtube make no sense

Some are spanish

[calm salmon]

oh I have an adblocker

so I never see those

[sterile stone]

Some are in pure korean

[placid fiber]

They never have

[sterile stone]

I've gotten alot of korean ads as of recent

[placid fiber]

I have premium since I am too lazy to get an adblocker

[misty nova]

Oh I know the pain

[calm salmon]

Mostly what I watch though

[placid fiber]

which also pays off since I can watch stuff offline

[sterile stone]

Hold on there buddy

[calm salmon]

I haven't watched randy feltface in months though

no idea why his shit is showing up

[sterile stone]

I wanna know how he turned styrofoam into cinnamon candy

[placid fiber]

trends

[calm salmon]

[sterile stone]

Mans really taking the microplastics meme to the extreme

[calm salmon]

I highly suggest Backyard Ballistics though

[median steeple]

nilered is a fucking super villain in disguise

[calm salmon]

its an italian guy that restores firearms

in a super professional way

[placid fiber]

My poor kitty is dazed atm xD

[nimble fiber]

what is happening

[placid fiber]

She's had too much contact

[calm salmon]

discussing my youtube feed

[placid fiber]

discussing my kitty's contact high

[sterile stone]

It takes a special kinda person to restore or customize a gun

Reminds me of this Mexcian guy who use to live in Houston

Man owned a resteraunt

[calm salmon]

I wish uh

[sterile stone]

But made custom engraved guns in the back

[calm salmon]

Demolition Ranch didn't full right wing nutjob

[nimble fiber]

menace

[calm salmon]

it was fun having a range specific show-case of firearms

but then he had to go bananas with the political shit

[placid fiber]

Me?

[sterile stone]

Kent ballistics was interesting

[calm salmon]

And I lost all interest

[nimble fiber]

u the mexican argus was referring to?

[calm salmon]

Yeah, Kentucky Ballistics is okay for that

[placid fiber]

Maybe

cough cough

[calm salmon]

Mostly just a "Lets do dumb shit with big guns" showcase

while leaving the weird political talk to the wayside

[nimble fiber]

omg can I get an autograph

[placid fiber]

is totally not 100% white american

Uh...

No...

[sterile stone]

I mean it's good business to keep your political takes out of your biz

[placid fiber]

Which is spanish for... no...

[calm salmon]

Which is why I really like Forgotten Weapons and Jonathon Ferguson

[nimble fiber]

[placid fiber]

but not because I won't give you my autograph

it's because my autograph isn't worth shit xD

[calm salmon]

FW with Ian McCollum and Jonathon Ferguson with the Royal Armouries/Gamespot does a great job of just teaching

[sterile stone]

I forgot the channel, but there's a guy who took molten aluminum nd buried it

And the guy who put molten iron on bullet resistant glass

[bitter anvil]

Gamespot teach about firearm?

[placid fiber]

Did the glass hold up?

[calm salmon]

They teamed up with Royal Armouries and Jonathon Ferguson to do a "Video Game Guns" series

So like, Call of Duty Modern Warfare guns, and their real life versions

[placid fiber]

TURKEY!!!

[bitter anvil]

Yeah so like helldiver trying be somewhat realism with it.

[calm salmon]

and its just Jon nitpicking the video game guns

[sterile stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_XPaY43YM

[calm salmon]

I uh

[bitter anvil]

Ground branch is military trying be realism

I means is actually realism

[calm salmon]

I don't like the HD2 CEO waxing on about "OUR GUNS ARE REALISTIC"

because realism is hardly fun

[bitter anvil]

I likely casual arcade shooter

[calm salmon]

and they've missed the mark on all of the guns anyway

[maiden path]

they dont know the kinda opium ahh fit i got on

[calm salmon]

"realistic guns"

you can lazer beam enemies out to 500 meters

Yeah. . . realistic Pilestatd. . . real realistic

[dim ivy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850710858215456779/1203490330222141530/live_scab_bruiser_reaction.gif

[calm salmon]

sure, in a prone position you can manage a person sized shot distribution

[placid fiber]

Geeze

[calm salmon]

but beaning bug heads from 500 meters is a little egregious for "realism"

[bitter anvil]

HD2 got gun sway mechanic that center dot isn’t typical third person shooter

Which I don’t like it much

[sterile stone]

I mean game logic and guns never really saw eye to eye

Unless it's tarkov

Then it's just annoying

Cause realism

[calm salmon]

tarkov redid recoil

and uh

its as bad as old recoil, for the exact opposite reasons

now its too easy to kill people

[median steeple]

bros got that chaos stare

[calm salmon]

where it was too hard beforehand

Though that's just classic BSG. They wildly swing from extreme to extreme and rarely find a good middle ground

[sterile stone]

I think the main thing that shoulda been changed was stamina

Like how are you a middle aged

Combat effective soldier

[calm salmon]

I like that max strength gives you a 4 meter vertical

[sterile stone]

And start dry heaving after 10 steps

[calm salmon]

Its not quite literally 4 meters

[bitter anvil]

Lol

[calm salmon]

but its a solid 2 meter vertical at max strength

which is insane in full battle kit

[frosty herald]

HD2 has fun gunplay and the game reminds me of mgs5

[bitter anvil]

If Tarkov has weight mechanic make you run slower then yeah.

[calm salmon]

ah yes, let me jump 6 feet into the air from a dead standstill

[calm salmon]

it does

heavier you are, slower you move

slower you change direction

stuff like that

[bitter anvil]

Yikes

[sterile stone]

Me watching WillerZ clear a 20 ft gap to jump over a wall cause he doesn't wanna go around

[calm salmon]

Like I said

BSG does middle ground not at all

its hard to call tarkov realistic

the guns are realistic models

and that's. . . about it

guns, armor, backpacks - those are all faithfully recreated 3d models

and that's as far as the "realism" in that game goes

need a wipe where we can't level up any skills

to get a true "mil-sim" experience in that game

[sterile stone]

I meeaaaan

I feel like fixed stats would be interesting

[bitter anvil]

Man have ground branch got disattentioned?

[calm salmon]

Ground Branch just released a new patch

whatdyamean

[sterile stone]

I never played GB

[calm salmon]

like

a day ago

maybe 3

I think it was 2 or 3 days ago they just released a new patch

[calm salmon]

Its not really a "Game" right now

[bitter anvil]

Cool I thought they wasn’t relevant

[calm salmon]

more of a uh

[sterile stone]

As nice as that looks right

Let's not forget

[calm salmon]

technical demo

[sterile stone]

Bullet proof glass is heavy as all fuck

And can weigh down a car a metric fuckton

[bitter anvil]

Have some weld metal instead

[calm salmon]

bullet proof glass is more plastic and glue than glass

[quartz obsidian]

Guys which build is meta now for zealot?

[calm salmon]

I don't even know how to answer this

because there's like 9 different answers

[sterile stone]

Just go full mad max

[calm salmon]

literally a solid "Use what you want, you'll be fine"

[bitter anvil]

Not meta just playstyle like you

[mint imp]

yes

[misty nova]

Knife run off and die is getting pretty popular

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/crossout-explode-gif-25514026

Crossout

Beloved

[median steeple]

zealot is pretty easy to make good builds for but like all of the classes can make good builds pretty easily

[sterile stone]

Metal bars are nice and all

Til something goes flying through the slit

[median steeple]

didnt they just add helis to crossout

[polar nexus]

zealot tree is kinda boring imo

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-crossout-gif-24022193

[median steeple]

also the metal bars are supposed to big debris anyway

[median steeple]

thats me with psyker tree

[frosty herald]

tarkov has been in a "demo" for such a long time people are starting to doubt its ever getting released

[sterile stone]

Yeah but how often do you see anything under the metal tho

[median steeple]

its like R6 ranked being in beta for years

[polar nexus]

ahah i like playing with psyker and vet tree

[median steeple]

? like windshields?

[sterile stone]

Yeah

[median steeple]

the metal bars are a replacement for WS

not as good but better than nothing

[sterile stone]

Eh fair

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-you-giga-chad-chad-meme-gif-25615024

[median steeple]

I like build crafting with vet tree but

idk it feels weird to me

[calm salmon]

a rare breed

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-giga-chad-giga-chad-gif-27579572

[calm salmon]

I fucking hate vet's tree Cain

Its just NOT fun to build in

its the strongest tree in the game

[placid fiber]

This is why I fucking love barb lol

[median steeple]

me with og fr

[sterile stone]

He lied as easily as be spoke

[placid fiber]

xD

[calm salmon]

but it feels super fucking ass to play with because there's voice of command or ass tier skills

[calm salmon]

og as in ogryn?

he has other problems

[median steeple]

I mainly use VoC for ther revive and VLs

[sterile stone]

Stealth vet

[calm salmon]

"Use all heavy attacks"

"Use all your ammo"

[median steeple]

same with scriers

[sterile stone]

Bruvver

[calm salmon]

neither are particularly intelligent gameplay styles

[tropic harbor]

Idk why anyone would want to travel to see an eclipse when you can just watch the 90s Berserk anime

[bitter anvil]

Lol

[calm salmon]

yeah but you need to deal with that scene

[polar nexus]

my god

sorry wrong reply

[bitter anvil]

Voice of command is easy button

[polar nexus]

i was remembering the ending of that anime

[calm salmon]

and no one wants to put themselves through Casca's trauma

[polar nexus]

it was one of my first back in the days

[sterile stone]

The same type of people who chew into ice cream

[bitter anvil]

I am the guy bite the ice cream

Chewing ice cream is my second thing

[median steeple]

dude I be fucking devouring ice

good ol crunch

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-brain-freeze-yum-goodnight-too-far-gif-11786309

[calm salmon]

I just hate how blatantly overpowered shout is

[sterile stone]

MAns devious

[calm salmon]

and how it makes the other two skills worthless

because of how good it is

[sterile stone]

Outright villain

[polar nexus]

i haven't touched the manga since Miura death

voc should be an aggro magnet

[calm salmon]

mostly I just hate how blatantly overpowered vet's middle tree is

and how mediocre the other two are

both in a vacuum and in comparison

[calm salmon]

that's not including keystones

only marksman focus sucks ass

ain't no one got time to try and hit 100% headshots to keep stacks up

when you can just do swap swap keystone or ping keystone for immediate gain

with zero "buy-in"

[median steeple]

I mean its not that hard but it limits you

[polar nexus]

most of the time mf does not give you additional bp on marksman weapon

better use deadshot + focus with stam-tg regen

[bitter anvil]

Marksman focus genuinely bad (for me)

[polar nexus]

as we found out with Josho

[bitter anvil]

What did Josho brewing this time?

[polar nexus]

i move too much to keep the stacks

[bitter anvil]

This game make you move left right dodging melee chaff enemies and can’t stand still for 5 second benefit stack

While there many ranged enemy presence

[polar nexus]

yea

i am bit mad to have tested my exec focus bolter build with a revolver

[placid fiber]

Who loves shoving their keys into a turkey ho- wait...

I feel like I may have said too much

They reshaped the keyhole for the smw key into a turkey lol

[spare talon]

The terrible trio

[placid fiber]

THey look like they could be a hand full

Our kitty now looks a lot less... contact high lol

Her eyes were definitely a bit hazy before lol

[ripe quest]

It's a diff utility.

Immediately blocking you for 1 day because I know the response that this reply will cause.

[calm salmon]

a diff utility that is better in every single way to stealth and exe stance

[placid fiber]

Or, hear me out, don't go to war with eachother and become friends? :3

[ripe quest]

"better in every single way" mmm no wrong try again

[placid fiber]

Better in more general scenarios...?

with less skill required to make use of?

[calm salmon]

press button

become invulnerable

if it continues to function as such

[coarse dagger]

are we fighting in here while I'm in the hospital? we have to stay united

[calm salmon]

it will always make the other two worthless

and it grants that function to everyone near you

its a stupid skill that needs to be nerfed

[placid fiber]

Puri, Exhil... Think of Astral

Think of their cannibalistic nature

[coarse dagger]

🫦

[placid fiber]

an- wait...

.>'

[ripe quest]

yes the over-toughness ult does sure seem to outdamage the damage ult and the myriad of buffs the stealth ult gives.

[calm salmon]

yeah the last thing anyone needs help with right now is damage

[ripe quest]

Of course that's what you'd say.

[placid fiber]

It's kind of true

with how much damage we do already lol

[calm salmon]

there's already like 25 other buffs in the tree for damage

the ults doing that is meaningless

[solar gorge]

arguing in dt discord while draupnir is still occupied smh

[coarse dagger]

Some people do need it. It's all dependent on gear, playstyle, etc

https://tenor.com/view/mechwarrior-battletech-discord-argument-argument-discord-gif-25379037

[placid fiber]

Both sides are right at the same time T_T

I blame obamacare!

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-risk-of-rain-returns-drifter-risk-of-rain-returns-risk-of-rain-returns-drifter-gif-17792526599931004715

[coarse dagger]

let's all engage in Imperium sanctioned prayer with proper handholding techniques

[delicate shadow]

invulnerability is an indirect dps increase a lot of the time jus' sayin'

[ripe quest]

There's like a load of arguments you can make regarding the ults but you saying "VoC is better in every way" and "they're meaningless" is intrinsically wrong.

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-tech-mech-warrior-dragon-smash-smash-building-gif-15740591

[calm salmon]

Exhi is just gonna hyperfocus on my wording

so uh

[coarse dagger]

me too babe....

[calm salmon]

I refuse to continue this conversation

[delicate shadow]

I mean the other ults are valid

[coarse dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/battletech-urbanmech-mechwarrior-urbie-gif-22274424

[delicate shadow]

VoC is just the most generally overpowered

[ripe quest]

Why yes, over-toughness needs to be looked at. The state of damage increases from the trees, again, needs to be looked at. I'm all for these changes.

[calm salmon]

I only think they're worthless in comparison

[coarse dagger]

Agree to disagree if you find one more useful than the other personally

[delicate shadow]

relic overtoughness is the only overtoughness I find justfiable given the zealot has to channel that shit and do nothing else for 3+ seconds

[solar gorge]

they're weaker in general but they still bring something that won't be useless

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208

[delicate shadow]

but also I'm a chorussy shill so y'know, biased

[polar nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1bh10mw/best_meta_builds/

[placid fiber]

So what about pizzas everyone?

I like pepperoni

Tho a good 3 meat pizza is hot fire

[nimble fiber]

spicy things in general

[placid fiber]

Throw on jalapenos yeah

[nimble fiber]

also a lot of cheese

[placid fiber]

YEah

Extra cheese

I do that on all of my subs

Cheese is life

[nimble fiber]

maybe some fried onions

[coarse dagger]

I like the relic for supporting a squishier team comp or for helping friends level. Otherwise I mostly use Fury bc free toughness and power for my rabies onslaught

[ripe quest]

I somewhat think that it's not even a great feature for Chorus. Though, given the powerhouse that is Fury and the damage anomaly that is Shroudfield for certain weapons it's kinda fitting lol.

[placid fiber]

Is Chorus a pizza type?

[coarse dagger]

I want pizza but my belly hurts

[placid fiber]

I am hungry and am cooking a pizza

🤤

[coarse dagger]

community poll for a name for my hernia if that's what I have

[placid fiber]

hernia =/= fun

[calm salmon]

Yeah I don't mind zealot's crozius ult

OT is still stupidly overpowered

but it removes 1/4th of the damage potential for 10 seconds

for zealot to give full buffs

[placid fiber]

Chorus is good in other people's hands

Not mine

[calm salmon]

which, if the team can't work around, can just lead to a funny cascade of failures

there's nothing about vet's shout that's fair or balanced

just. . . press button>become invulnerable

[placid fiber]

It is a quick get out of jail safety card

with no real cost

It's the only vet ult I use, since even I can make use of it x.x

[coarse dagger]

Zealussy got us fighting harder

hey who said that

[nimble fiber]

imagine they gave zealot that ult

[placid fiber]

Zealussy?! WHERE?!

[fossil vigil]

The penance where I can’t fire a single shot for a whole run, is that something that’s personal, or do I need my squad to also not fire a shot

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-automaton-ko-punch-devastator-gif-17309311234866658824

[placid fiber]

just you

[coarse dagger]

Guards! Get him!

[fossil vigil]

Interesting

[coarse dagger]

Bold of you to assume I'd be on the side of humans in that verse

who animated this i want to thank them

[calm salmon]

https://streamable.com/8oz2uv

I had a stalker try to do that to me

the democracy armor is based and democracy pilled

[placid fiber]

Dinner is served!

[solar gorge]

i love eating 1 rocket to the face, ragdolling across the map and getting back up immediately

[placid fiber]

🤤

[hushed agate]

Remember you can use knives

[fair igloo]

Okay so I played a game w/ ovenproof's to see how much soulblaze actually contributed but i have no idea how accurate it actually is

[delicate shadow]

one of the things that made me a big chorus shill is I cliffed a DH and a Cspawn in one go lol

but otherwise idk I'm a sucker for support vibe

love merc in VT2

[placid fiber]

support is great in some people's hands

[solar gorge]

people use chorus for things other than ledging bosses ?

[placid fiber]

I am not great with support ults generally tho

[scarlet wraith]

Warrior priest my beloved

[hushed agate]

Chorus is great if you just want to turn off your brain and let team stomp baddies

[solar gorge]

yeah about that

[hushed agate]

?

[placid fiber]

I want to fight the enemies, not stagger them

[solar gorge]

well it depends if your teammates have any kind of grey matter left in their skull

[placid fiber]

Tru ^

[delicate shadow]

chorus I find to work good for clutching too

[hushed agate]

Oh

[delicate shadow]

obvs not in the same way as chastise but I've done shit with chorus that chastise wouldn't have worked for

[solar gorge]

so having the stuff you stagger be killed is very inconsistent

[fair igloo]

I'm not quite sure w/ the deal with the difference between actual damage dealt and then the individual damage values on the bottom is, but if we compared soulblaze vs ranged damage soulblaze ended up doing more damage than what I did with trauma itself, but if we just compare it to actual damage overall then soulblaze ends up being 33% of the total damage which I feel like isn't a small amount if my math isn't wrong but i'm kinda dumb
So being generous it's over 50% and not being generous it's 33%

[hushed agate]

I run chorus with flamer and crusher so wether my ability is up or not the horde still isn't an issue

[hushed agate]

I usually get good teammates thankfully

[fair igloo]

@calm salmon thoughts on this? Not really sure how accurate it is

[calm salmon]

no idea

[tropic harbor]

I wish they’d give us melee weapons in hd2. And guns that actually deal damage

[calm salmon]

its a mod so take with a grain of salt

[calm salmon]

nooooooooooooooooo everything in hd2 is good

[tropic harbor]

And actual new maps that aren’t just reskins

[calm salmon]

there's not a single bad gun in the gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

[fair igloo]

ya it's a little weird cuz adding up all of the damage values from ovenproof's has like 175k damage missing so
unless it's damage that's only displayed in other tier options

[calm salmon]

if you can't tell I'm being sarcastic

[fair igloo]

But lowballing it, it seems like soulblaze accounts forl ike at least 33% of my trauma build's damage which is defff not small

[calm salmon]

what hd2 does have is that everything works against bots

[north sedge]

Dagger/scythe are the only downright garbo guns

[calm salmon]

its just bugs that punish you with the way chargers and bile titans are designed

along with armored bile spewers

[frosty herald]

armored spewers take 4 plasma shots

[calm salmon]

now, that's not say that the jar5/plas scorcher are good

[frosty herald]

or just 1 impact grenade

[calm salmon]

they're just "useable"

[frosty herald]

calling the scorcher usable is insane

[polar nexus]

Hmm have you turned all of the options of the base mod off?

Iirc there's a problem with stagger counted as dmg

[fair igloo]

In the base scoreboard mod I do nottt, should I turn those off?

ooh weird

[polar nexus]

You should ask @frozen ibex

[frosty herald]

you could also use the psykarium creature spawner mod and test damage that way

[north sedge]

Scorcher and dominator are both good

[glacial stratus]

@royal vortex best perks for plasma?

[placid fiber]

pizza

[polar nexus]

For my SB, I turn everything from the base mod off. And there's no missing DMG.

[fair igloo]

So i should turn everything in base scoreboard off and then everything in ovenproof's on?

[polar nexus]

Yes

[fair igloo]

okay, i'll try that!