zealot-class

[fleet zealot]

or agri IAG

[polar nexus]

if you crouch, it's stable

[fleet zealot]

also for brautos, crouch tapfire

[patent patrol]

Oh really?

[fleet zealot]

let your recoil reset inbetween each burst

[patent patrol]

I didn't know that was tech.

crouching stabilizes a gun?

wow.

[coarse birch]

I also dont brace

At longer ranges

[polar nexus]

it used to be worse

like crouching on the agri iag had worse recoil iirc

[coarse birch]

Tbf i don't brace in general really

[patent patrol]

I've found myself in situations a lot recently where I NEED a longer range option.

[coarse birch]

I also run DOD tho

[patent patrol]

cause like 5 snipers and 10 gunners far out of melee range

even if I get to them I take a bunch of damage beforehand

[polar nexus]

i would use a revolver then, bolter needs practice

[patent patrol]

So revolver would fit what I need better

[fleet zealot]

yea bracing doesn't improve recoil

it just changes the recoil pattern

which imo is worse for long range

[patent patrol]

a crusher killer option but also a long range popping option?

[fleet zealot]

mk3 headhunter

i will beat that gun into the heavens

[patent patrol]

All I have is Revolver rn.

[polar nexus]

mk3 suffers againts dreg ragers 😦

[fleet zealot]

i take maniac flak on mine and it does fine you just have to make sure you hit the head

[patent patrol]

Ok real talk tho. Idk what the deal is with 'headshots' in this game

it feels like a damn gambling game

I'll be using my heavy evisc, swinging toward the head, but I get a bodyshot

then I swing at an arm and it counts as a headshot

Like wtf

[polar nexus]

new evis?

[fleet zealot]

hitboxes+ desync from server vs ingame models

[patent patrol]

new one, yup.

[fleet zealot]

ogryn had this problem really bad

[patent patrol]

So it's not me being incompetent

it's the game fuckin with me

I literally had a moment where I revved up my Evisc, slashed down on the head of a Reaper with a charged swing and it said I hit the body.

[fleet zealot]

ogryn used to have to aim like, the whole screen above enemies with the mk1 club overhead

[patent patrol]

Like, HUH?!

[fleet zealot]

to get a headshot

[patent patrol]

IT'S ON THE HEAD. THE BLOOD PARTICLES ARE COMING FROM THE HEAD

WDYM IT'S A BODYSHOT?!

it's the dumbest thing

[south folio]

rev hits can be a bit wonky cuz they do immediately stop the swing

[fleet zealot]

yea that's hitbox

[south folio]

the game otherwise has hitbox priority to go around these situations

[patent patrol]

and what's crazy is I don't have this problem on my Ironhelm

[fleet zealot]

you just gotta aim higher than you think

[patent patrol]

I hit consistent headshots with the base click, not even the charged one

so like

huh

[fleet zealot]

I think it's an overhead issue and even if fatshark fixed the issue a bit it's still a problem

[south folio]

where if you hit a body and a weakspot in a short interval, melee weapons nowadays have weakspot priority so they'll just say that you hit a weakspot

rashad used to be fucked because it had bodyshot priority, so if you hit a body and weakspot in a short interval, then it'd say you hit the body

[fleet zealot]

^

[frosty herald]

Ngl

[south folio]

so you had to completely skim the weakspot hitbox and not hit any body hitbox to avoid it counting as a body hit

[frosty herald]

I do feel the reward for the current major order should be higher

Essentialy liberating 4 planets at once for 50 medala

[coarse birch]

Arco

[south folio]

hai

[coarse birch]

I am debating running mk4 lasgun on psyker

I think the madness is taking over

[south folio]

don't talk to me anymore

[coarse birch]

Damn ok

[south folio]

ur gonna give yourself RSI

[coarse birch]

First you give me shit for running assail/the good stuff

Now i run mk4 las

And you want nothing to do with me

[coarse birch]

Youd like that wouldn't you

[south folio]

there's no winning

[south folio]

so true

u should use the mk4 😊

i encourage this decision

[coarse birch]

I was debating mk6 knife mk4 las if it makes you feel better

Honestly my biggest issue with it is fucking suppression

I could see the numbers being decent with dd/scriers but i cant aim at more than 2 enemies with it

Id imagine hh/da is still bis on it

Infernus is mildly attempting due to reliable crits but i could use the damage

However this is the "i really hope a bon doesnt show up"

Build

[polar nexus]

ads bolter without suppression immunity is a lesson in pain

[coarse birch]

Yeah its p bad

[polar nexus]

tg coherency regen is a sham https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYBokBJb3HU

imma remove tg regen from my psyker curios, why did the fuck did i trust somebody advocating for sniper resist

[coarse birch]

Yeah ive always found regen to be meh

Im just not in coherency enough even on psyker and whatnot

[coarse dagger]

uh oh the HD2 servers are down are you ready guys

[fleet zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nKP3zIEcjxs?si=QBvNaFfffwhFBiFf

[north sedge]

Is just steam maintenance being funky

[frosty herald]

It was a minor steam issue

[hushed knoll]

I’m off my other comp and I don’t have them memorized

[frosty herald]

The devestator order is bugged

[coarse birch]

How many computers you have

[hushed knoll]

2

I have a macbook and a gaming laptop

[coarse birch]

Ah i see

Wait if they are both laptops why cant you use the gaming laptop for everything

Unless you do art stuff or ones for work

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ9usrpAPao

[polar nexus]

they should remove shout and bubble

or make it so that enemies will target you, like a taunt

[coarse birch]

I would be ok with this

[polar nexus]

and i would use it to throw nades / trauma the shit out of them

it's shrimple, if i take shout or bubble, the survivability rate goes through the roof

[coarse birch]

Bubble i care less about cause its rare that im standing still long enough to notice it unless its full pubs

Shout is just dumb

[polar nexus]

bubble should be use to trap outside or inside

i kinda like you can fuck up the bonbon with that

[coarse birch]

I prefer wall

Much more interesting

[worldly bramble]

Wrong dump stat, RNGesus.

[elfin steppe]

very friendly

[zinc talon]

what's the verdict on getting this on my psucker?

[coarse birch]

You can make it decent, youll be stuck with one bad perk tho

[fading vale]

turns out all orbitals and self sacrifice is the best strategy

barrages of course

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/b4ls32

[coarse birch]

Better than mines

?

And tesla tower

[fading vale]

see the video lol

[coarse birch]

Jfc

Im surprised the game didn't crash

[frosty herald]

Fuck everything in a 50 meter radius

[fading vale]

we did it for every mission like 5 games in a row

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/l7pzlz

[coarse birch]

I can never tell if stan is enjoying being attacked or dislikes it

[north sedge]

yes

[elfin steppe]

FS this is how you should advertise cosmetic

[frosty herald]

I had a heavy armor set

And the review was no joke

"I love this set so much and its perfect for sneaking"

[obsidian prairie]

"Wife said it is this or her, damn I miss her"

[maiden path]

i love the japanese

they carried me for velkhana 😭

no ranged attack should do 50% of my health

is all im saying

now its time for me to cry and wait for the japanese to carry me for the next elder 😎

[minor sage]

smh

can't beat boss

[elfin steppe]

how do i play with japanese

[minor sage]

so gets carried

[maiden path]

yes

chad emoji face

wojak

[minor sage]

how are u gonna beat the harder bosses lmao

[maiden path]

harder bosses dont have ice beams

that do 50% of my health

i can dodge normal beams I cannot dodge velkhana beams

also by then ill have a build that makes sense

[frosty herald]

HOOOOOO BOYYYYYY

[minor sage]

later on you get oneshot lmao

[maiden path]

WOAH

[minor sage]

from full

[maiden path]

I GOT MIGHTY/PROTECTION JEWEL

is that good

sounds good

[frosty herald]

You are NOT ready for the rest of the monsters

[maiden path]

yes i am

[minor sage]

but

[maiden path]

bitc

[minor sage]

are you trying to roll through the beam

[maiden path]

yes

:)

[minor sage]

or are you doing a full dive

ok yeah that's why you suck

[maiden path]

yo mama

[minor sage]

i can't roll through velk beam either

but if you dive you can avoid it

[maiden path]

ive done it a couple times

its hard

but u can do it

gs wasnt good for velkhana

good thing i got carried :Sunglasses:

[minor sage]

gs is fine for velk

[maiden path]

velk 2 fast

[frosty herald]

Cant wait for beb to die due to shara ishvalda's laserbeam attacks

[maiden path]

if its not focusing down one guy

[minor sage]

bro

[maiden path]

i am not getting dieying i will have a build that works

[minor sage]

you can't complain about gs

i'm literally a gs main

LOL

[maiden path]

yes i can

[minor sage]

gs works against every single boss

[maiden path]

stupid ass slow weapon!!

inf combo!!

[delicate shadow]

wow bloodborne sure has changed a lot

[minor sage]

I do ruin a quickdraw gs instead of a TCS gs

against that monkey boss

rajan?

idr

[maiden path]

im gonna kill shara in 1 move

and ur all gonna cry

when I do it

and go 'erm beb beb im sorry we didnt know how cool u were'

chat

its time to farm jewels

[minor sage]

maybe beat the story first

kek

[maiden path]

ill kek your mom

[frosty herald]

I shouldve told you greatsword was slow

Now stop being a baby and just main hammer

[maiden path]

iTS

BORING

[minor sage]

dual blades is pretty fun

[maiden path]

after i do diablos for like 18 times in a row it is

[minor sage]

or SnS

[frosty herald]

Forcing yoy to use heavy bowgun

[maiden path]

ill branch out when I can fully realize builds

heavy bnowgun goated

[minor sage]

bro you dont need builds

you're playing the story

[maiden path]

yes i do bitc

[minor sage]

you're literally like

level 8 in darktide

[maiden path]

i am level 40 zealot

im goated

[minor sage]

and asking how to craft a flak/maniac ht/db heavy sword

[frosty herald]

Beb

Velkhana is easy asf

[maiden path]

for u!!

u guys got 3 trillion defense

and health!!

im cooked!!

i got attack health boost

crit

and weakness

!!

[frosty herald]

Your dumbass needs to dodge

And learn patterns

[minor sage]

i didnt even know how jewels worked when I first played

[maiden path]

i havent learned a pattern yet

i look at attack i go

[minor sage]

so I just fucking equipped random ones

LOL

[maiden path]

'hmm i can dodge that'

it has got me this far

[frosty herald]

YOU HAVENT EVEN LEARNT ABOIT SIDEQUESTS

[minor sage]

ok FR though

you should try out

the other weapons

[maiden path]

i might try longsword

[minor sage]

SnS is really fun

in world

[maiden path]

that too

[minor sage]

longsword is aite

too parry reliant

[maiden path]

i want longsword cause those ins frames

[minor sage]

if you can't hit the parries ls is fucking trash

[hushed knoll]

WAIT can you put dominator on burst mode???

[minor sage]

and it sounds like you're gonna have trouble

[maiden path]

i cant hit gs parries 😭

[minor sage]

hitting those parries

gs doesnt have parries

[maiden path]

the shoulder

[minor sage]

unless you mean the tackle

o

if you can't hit the gs parry

[maiden path]

that does 80 fucking damage

[minor sage]

i would give up

[frosty herald]

The tackle isnt a parry

[minor sage]

on longsword

LOL

[maiden path]

i can hit it!!

im not used to hitting it

im still living off the idea of bloodborne

i can just iframe dodge through everything

[north sedge]

yes

[minor sage]

you can lol

[maiden path]

u can most of da time..

[minor sage]

just play a lighter weapon

like lbg

[frosty herald]

Just use dual blades

[maiden path]

ok i will play sword and shield

[minor sage]

or dual blades

or sns

[frosty herald]

Its the easiest weapon to use

[maiden path]

sword and shield looks easy to pick up and use

and flashy

[frosty herald]

You just dodge in demon mode

[hushed knoll]

I use my macbook for everything other than gaming

[maiden path]

sighe..

i have to get good at a game

when will this torment end

[coarse birch]

Hmm

[frosty herald]

Just get some mantles

[minor sage]

i dont think ur gonna git gud

[maiden path]

im goated already pal

[minor sage]

if you get pubs to carry

[maiden path]

humble urself..

[minor sage]

just solo until you hit the endgame

[maiden path]

velkhana is the first monster I needed a squad!!

[coarse birch]

Brother you essentially summoned 😭

[maiden path]

if u shittalk summoning ur a LOSER

[coarse birch]

Which is fine play how you want idc

[maiden path]

i was given the ability to have joyful cooperation

i will have joyful cooperation

[frosty herald]

I have solod everything in world except alatreon fatalis kulve taroth and safi jiva

[sterile basalt]

Is zealot’s flamer blessing “Overpressure” fixed?

[coarse birch]

However it is probably not the path to getting good

[coarse birch]

No afaik

[minor sage]

fatty was so damn hard

lmao

[maiden path]

does this work for sword shield

[minor sage]

i had to get carried through that fight

bro ur in story

[maiden path]

yes

[minor sage]

everything works

[maiden path]

i am not, not using talents

i do not have endgame shit

remember that!!

[coarse birch]

Isnt weakness exploit and stuff meta anyway or am i thinking of rise

Been a minute

[maiden path]

yea its meta!!

das why im using it

idk how crits work

[coarse birch]

Wym

[maiden path]

but i got 1000 damage on gs charge once

so im keeping it on

[frosty herald]

It always hurts seeing beb use alpha sets

[coarse birch]

You have a crit chance

[maiden path]

i am only using one alpha part

in that

its the head i think

[coarse birch]

You crit when you get purple slash

[maiden path]

or gauntlets

wtf purple slash

[coarse birch]

Well its pink actually

[frosty herald]

You crit when you get a slash effect and little yellow diamond under the damage number

[coarse birch]

Its your affinity stat

[maiden path]

i got like 6 of those in a row with hammer once

[minor sage]

uhhh

before you go into your first hunt with sns

[maiden path]

WOA

[minor sage]

I would learn how to do a perfect rush

[maiden path]

should i use the wticher silver swords

they lookcool

wtf is perfectrush

[minor sage]

otherwise rest of the kit you can kinda just wing it

and learn as you go

[coarse birch]

Its probably in the wep notes

[frosty herald]

We gotta force beb to train in the training area

[minor sage]

perfect rush is a chain combo that is the highest dps SnS has but requires timed inputs to execute

if you fuck up the timing you do less dmg

[maiden path]

i did that with longsword

i just wing it

i didnt know gs had a inf combo untill 2 fights ago

[coarse birch]

Tbf ls is a bit more wingy

[maiden path]

i was just charging ehehe

[minor sage]

gs doesnt have an inf combo o_O

[maiden path]

yea it does

uhh

charge move

[coarse birch]

You mean like

[maiden path]

then large slash

[minor sage]

true charged slash?

[maiden path]

nop

the start of the charge

lemme get

ane xamp

[minor sage]

I'm pretty sure you're using the gs wrong

[frosty herald]

I know what he means

Its y and b

[maiden path]

yea

[minor sage]

oh the side slash spin?

[frosty herald]

Yup

[minor sage]

yeah you're not supposed to spam that lol

do you know how to kick into combat with a gs from non-equipped

and how to cancel your charged slashes into the next or final stage?

[coarse birch]

Dont you just tackle

[maiden path]

grahh

[minor sage]

ok, so hold block and them attack

[maiden path]

i have not held block

[minor sage]

and that'll let you do a fast kick

that brings you into combat

[hushed knoll]

Why are you hmming

[maiden path]

im not used to using a full moveset

[coarse birch]

Oh i forgot about the kick

[frosty herald]

Beb you wont like the greatsword

Just use hammer or dual blades

Both are fast weapons

[hushed knoll]

Is this monster hunter world

[minor sage]

there's also the trick where you can shoot your sling

[maiden path]

sighe hammer is too useful..

[minor sage]

to accelerate 2 stages

[maiden path]

stuns 24/7..

[coarse birch]

Ye

[minor sage]

so you can skip the charged slash and go directly into TCS

[coarse birch]

Hmmmmm

[minor sage]

very uiseful if you have a short window

[hushed knoll]

Tell me why

[coarse birch]

Curious

[hushed knoll]

🐰

I mean

[minor sage]

oh god

please dont tell me

this is how you're hunting with the greatsword

LOL

my fucking eyes

[maiden path]

ok

WHAT

rathian armor is badass

[coarse birch]

Tcs and tackle dont exist

[coarse birch]

I am just surprised

[frosty herald]

Youll hate my combo in rise lmao

[hushed knoll]

Why are you surprised

[frosty herald]

Hunting edge into wide slash into rage slash

[hushed knoll]

Macbook is way more comfortable to use for everyday tasks

[frosty herald]

Or surge slash combo into a block charge into rage slash

[coarse birch]

I just dont hear this often

In terms of like

[hushed knoll]

[maiden path]

wtf

how does sharpness work

is alot of red bad

[coarse birch]

Laptop just for gaming and laptop for other stuff

Yes

[hushed knoll]

I mean I treat my gaming laptop like a console

[maiden path]

witcher sword fucking sucks 😭

[coarse birch]

If you start bouncing its bad

[hushed knoll]

It's pretty high powered

[maiden path]

shit got like 60% of its bar as red

[hushed knoll]

And I don't have room for a full setup

[coarse birch]

Yeah its fair

Just not something i hear often

[hushed knoll]

I wanted to get into PC gaming but like I said space is tight for me rn

[coarse birch]

Yeah thats fine

I am a mac hater tho

[hushed knoll]

Right now it works perfectly for me but eventually I wanna get a desktop setup

I love mac

[maiden path]

what sword and shield should I use

[frosty herald]

You love an overpriced laptop

[coarse birch]

I dont like everything being integrated + im just used to windows

[hushed knoll]

I think Mac os is way more intuitive than windows for everyday stuff

Then again I've mainly used mac for the past 13 years

[coarse birch]

Also working on them is a pain

Esp newer standalones

Older ones i could just pull the screen off

[coarse birch]

Yeah im biased too ive always used windows lol

[hushed knoll]

I used to be a composer so I would run my DAW and notation software on my mac

[coarse birch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[hushed knoll]

Why are you taking notes

Writing music notation isn't taking notes

[coarse birch]

Noted

[hushed knoll]

I will call the police

[coarse birch]

Tf are you gonna call the police for

[hushed knoll]

Your note taking

[maiden path]

how do I fight leshen again

[elfin steppe]

I deployed a sentry, it immediately killed my two teammates

[minor sage]

it gets a little more interesting at endgame

due to the viability of ele sns

but for now since you're doing the story

just look for any high phys dmg with good sharpness

[coarse birch]

How will you direct them to me

[maiden path]

is dis bad 😭

[minor sage]

have you fought teostra yet

[maiden path]

yea!!!

multiple times!!

im in iceborne

[minor sage]

I would recommend farming a amsters touch set

is that from teos?

i dont remember

masters touch helps a lot cuz a lot of the good weapons have only a sliver of white sharpness

so if you dont want to just be sharpening 3 times per fight

[maiden path]

can i only fight ancient leshen now

after beating witcher

quest

[hushed knoll]

Sniffer dogs

[coarse birch]

Your not even in the right state

[tropic terrace]

bricked? (I assume yes, hear tons of bad things about lacerate)

[coarse birch]

You could technically get 3/4 but one blessing will be p bad

Id probably pass but if nothing better its usable

[minor sage]

not gonna lie

I would turn that

into a lacerate knife

fuck the haters

lmfao

[tropic terrace]

let's do that then cause I have another mk 6 I'll upgrade later, this can be my poop knife

what goes on it

[minor sage]

lacerate backstab lets go

uncanny if you're a nerd

are you a nerd?

[tropic terrace]

🤓 yes sir

[maiden path]

ancient leshen hard ahh hell

aww

geralt is a full transmog set

i wanted his armor only

[patent patrol]

The heaviest weapons I have lmao.

I'm pretty sure I'd shoot myself in the face trying to lift them

LMAO.

[bitter anvil]

Bad way to hold a gun be like:

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-sleepy-angry-tired-mink-gif-7911047595279227753

[bitter anvil]

Many ferret

[zealous basin]

:D

[polar nexus]

i would take the sprint eff and turns that into a uncanny + something

[steep hound]

I just switched out my perfect rashad for a mk 6 heavy sword. Its fun to 1-shot all specials with a heavy swipe but MAN does the horde clear feel awful in comparison

[polar nexus]

do you have headtaker deathblow?

[steep hound]

yup

[polar nexus]

Oh nice

[delicate shadow]

actually a perfect sword lmao

[polar nexus]

horde clear would be better with the 9

by a small amount

[delicate shadow]

the hsword6 is actually faster iirc

at everything

[steep hound]

I havent used HS much so I didn't know which mark was best, glad its the one that rolled so well lol

Like I said it feels great facing specials but the coming off the high of a rashad murder spree the HS horde clear feels like fighting with a noodle

[polar nexus]

i don't think it's better than 9 with L+H combo but maybe that has changed

[delicate shadow]

yea like I said actually perfect

big lucky

[polar nexus]

a perfect rashad is bonkers too, no effort involved

just mash m1

[steep hound]

Literally the first time Melk offered something worth buying that wasn't just to strip a blessing off it. After 15 months

[delicate shadow]

I think Dawn Priest posted a video at some point comparing them side by side

[delicate shadow]

I'll see if I can scrounge it up

[steep hound]

zealot benefits from unarmored on rashad ya? Or am I missing something

[proud scroll]

is headtaker rthe best dmg od on the combat axe?

[steep hound]

Yup. BM+Headtaker

Decimator is good too but less consistent since it falls off when you miss

[proud scroll]

Cheers

[polar nexus]

are we twins?

[steep hound]

https://tenor.com/view/did-we-just-become-best-friends-did-we-just-become-best-friends-meme-step-brothers-best-friends-besties-best-friend-gif-23405805

[polar nexus]

i removed unarmored since... i had no valuable bp with no stacks no nothing

unarmored rashad is a vet thing

[steep hound]

good lord the quad 80s 😭 its gorgeous

[polar nexus]

I spent 2 M on a whim

that's a lot of missions

i might go unyielding i think

[steep hound]

indeed. I'm still looking for one on my vet, got a 3/4 deci one that im making due with for now

[polar nexus]

what i want

is to make the perfect decapitator rashad

i just need the bp T_T

[steep hound]

I haven't heard of that, hows it roll and whats it do

[polar nexus]

it's marginally better than headtaker

but the condition is worse

you need to oneshot to get the stack

each stack add finesse

[fleet zealot]

decape has a higher ceiling but it's way less reliable

less reliable than decimator

[steep hound]

Literally have this lying in the pile, never used it

[polar nexus]

i have a very good one on my vet but with unyielding locked

hmmm

[steep hound]

Seems like it just needs a heavy to get the chain rolling then back to spamming lights?

5s is a pretty big window. Hmmmm I'll have to try it out

[polar nexus]

that would be a way to get the ball rolling

[fleet zealot]

also finesse damage is useless if you don't hit weakspot for some reason, nor can you stack it against monstros/ogryns like headtaker

[polar nexus]

tbf, i use the bolter on those

so your axe

[steep hound]

What BPs does it open up over headtaker?

[polar nexus]

on a light

[steep hound]

Sounds like a lot of trouble for very little

[fleet zealot]

🤷‍♂️

[polar nexus]

with momentum / martyr you could go over the treshold

[fleet zealot]

it just scales higher, could probably run duelist too

[polar nexus]

full decap stacks

full ht stacks

(with your axe)

[steep hound]

Interesting. Ya I'll have to play around with that

[polar nexus]

well, you know what, i'll do the same

i should also try that on scryer psyker

[visual stream]

Autocannon closing bug holes feels so good

80% of a heavy hive gone in a few seconds

[sharp zodiac]

Been sitting here conjuring thought

[frozen glen]

false

[zealous basin]

[sharp zodiac]

Thought complete

Couldn't decide what mh bgm to vote for

[frozen glen]

proof of a hero 🤓

[zealous basin]

i got some fresh mid for u lil bro

[sharp zodiac]

Borriing

Homosexual vampire dragon got my vote

[zealous basin]

erm actually malzeno is cringe

[vast radish]

what's the commonly agreed upon thunder hammer for auric? ironhelm?

[north sedge]

Preference

Ironhelm cleaves on special but does 25% less dmg than crucis

Moveset is a bit funkier

[spiral anvil]

Both can take out ragers and mutants with activated heavy, ironhelm needs thrust for ragers though

[spiral anvil]

Brachydios 👀

[sharp zodiac]

Absolutely not

[drowsy steppe]

both TH are good

[patent patrol]

Bro what the hell is this 💀

12% penetration. Bro that knife ain't killin SHIT.

[drowsy steppe]

uncanny wont save this one dawg

😭

[ember yew]

why you just wont put Flak on it instead of Spec and erase Decap for Headtaker and enjoy your ride

[steep hound]

Cuz I already have this one lol. Doris was telling me about a Decap build and we were discussing

[polar nexus]

You have the best luck ever

[ember yew]

fair enough

🍖

[patent patrol]

Ikr

Does... reload speed matter for this?

[polar nexus]

It's allright

I have the same reload speed on my main rev.

[patent patrol]

I also have this

the heaviest revolver you done seen

LMAO

gonna see what I get for the second perk

[polar nexus]

I have a knife with the same mobility

It's a heavy weapon

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-knife-predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-26736001

heavy knife

[hidden verge]

is this good enough? 😄

anything need to be changed?

[polar nexus]

i respect the unmetaness of that zealot

[polar nexus]

crit dmg to flak unyielding or elite

then it depends

[ember yew]

that graia 4 destroys mah heart

[polar nexus]

knife wants uncanny as a blessing

on a 6 i would go executor uncanny maybe

[ember yew]

out of all tactical/combat axes (ignoring rashad) i tested yesterday, atrox mk4 felt the best (overall still average or lower), while atrox mk2 was the same, but it's pattern was more vertical, which isnt great at all

[polar nexus]

i an on the fence between mk2 and mk7

[royal vortex]

tac axes need some general work on damage profile differentiation

[ember yew]

i didnt like strange fling on second swing of mk7

[royal vortex]

like some of them are straight up nonfunctional

[ember yew]

(if it was mk7, i forgot), but i think it was 7

[royal vortex]

every tac axe heavy has the same damage profile

[south folio]

yeah the mk7's 2nd light phases through enemies

[polar nexus]

not the 4

[royal vortex]

it is so sad

[ember yew]

the same shit damage profile*

[south folio]

mk4 heavy uppercut 💀

[polar nexus]

oh sort

[royal vortex]

there's two different light profiles

which is annoying because the 2 has one of the sweep lights for some annoying reason

[royal vortex]

for the tradeoffs you get i dont think the sweep profile is bad

its deterministic rager stagger on bodyshot, still hits BM bps with a bit of work, etc

the overheads just need a damage bump and the uppercut needs something

[ember yew]

the uppercut needs something
stagger increase probably

[royal vortex]

the taxe has enough stagger tools

[sharp oyster]

What are good blessings on the flamer

[royal vortex]

the incredibly enlightened thing to do is boost the finesse so u have a reason to try to headshot with an awful move like the uppercut

blaze away/whatever

overpressure would be bis but it doesnt work on dot

[sharp oyster]

How does Showstopper works

[ember yew]

tactical axes aside, Antax 5 is just shittier version of Rashad and Achlys8 is shittier version of both

what FS are cooking there

[royal vortex]

for practical use it is a visual effect

the explosion doesnt really do any damage or anything worthwhile

[sharp oyster]

Ah so it's a meme blessing with no use

[royal vortex]

the achlys actually has like one genuine upside that isn't hidden behind something you can't access in game

the h1 has significantly higher maniac damage

really i think you could make the achlys work with just a bit of moveset finagling and an animation rework on the lights/pa

[fossil crag]

My faith wasn't strong enough

[royal vortex]

😔

the achlys would be really interesting as a somewhat more cleave-y axe that requires significantly more effort to get value out of it relative to the other 2

[ember yew]

i hope FS will revisit those, but as always they can just release Achlys 26 and Antax 13

and it will be better

[south folio]

the heavy 1 not having 0.001 cleave would certainly help

[ember yew]

[royal vortex]

it should be like 4

drop the pa to 6, give it the best damage profile of any caxe push attack, make your single target chain like light -> heavy heavy -> light light repeat or smth

[south folio]

no i think it should have more zeroes to its left just to make a statement

[royal vortex]

lmao

i think the big problem is the push attack h1 chain is like

just bad

because the push attack is a fairly shitty attack if you aren't using it for incidental rager stagger or removing some horde pressure

[south folio]

yeah give it the antax PA and call it a day

[royal vortex]

no

[ember yew]

its damage is non existant, could be buffed

[royal vortex]

the antax push attack does like half the damage a light does

and u cant lightspam on an achlys for bm-abuse hordeclear

[south folio]

the PA is way worse than i remember it being

who tf was push-attack with this willingly

[royal vortex]

2022 psyker chat

lmao

[south folio]

AUGH

[royal vortex]

i actually think achlys would be super interesting if it functioned properly

because you could use decapitator much easier

@south folio the achlys lights have a 20 point finesse damage bump

what the fuck

[ember yew]

[south folio]

OwO

[royal vortex]

oh no im dum

comparing antax to achlys

achlys has finesse as a stat

[south folio]

u atutpid nbith

which dev has a vendetta against the achlys

[ember yew]

what is cleave

[royal vortex]

this weapon literally just has nonsensical stat/animation distributions

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-never-heard-of-it-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20290430

[royal vortex]

the h2 h3 and all the lights are strikedowns

like at some point u must recognize this is just a redundant moveset

[south folio]

can't believe fatshark accidentally made h1 a horizontal sweep

[royal vortex]

it could be so cool but like

imagine who picks this weapon in a world where bm doesn't exist

literally nobody

it would have 0 upsides as a single target weapon

[south folio]

😔

[royal vortex]

it would be a worse rashad with a much more awkward moveset to work around

it still is but the disparity would be worse

[oak ermine]

What does Achlys truly need

(more horizontality, probably)

[ember yew]

Achlys Mk15 will fix all the problems

trust

[south folio]

i might just keep the overheads it has just cuz why not

just that it can't be this way when BM is a blessing and exists in our current reality

[royal vortex]

the push attack being a real attack that deals damage and a bump to the heavy cleave would be a good starting point

[oak ermine]

I wouldn't mind the light moveset, if it had normal caxe cleave and heavy moveset hadn't just had two stock Rashad/Antax overheads added on top of the horizontal heavy

[royal vortex]

i think you could add some differentation between attacks to force combo-oriented stuff for single target

because if ur gonna have light/heavy attacks that overlap in use case u need to force the player to use them

[oak ermine]

Make it the Mk4 Cleaver of combat axes

[royal vortex]

zealot needs more push attack centric weapons

h1-pa would be an interesting rotation for cleave stuff if the attacks actually worked

[south folio]

chainsword has a nice PA but lightspam ends up doing the same thing besides BPs

[hidden verge]

Thx

[oak ermine]

Imagine having 8.0 cleave on your push attack, but the first target only gets hit for 100 damage

[south folio]

the 13g chainsword makes me sad cuz the pushattack has some noticeable lag on the PA

[royal vortex]

i think you could bump up the h1 stagger a bit too

the h1 should be absolutely terrible into cara-unyielding so u cant really heavy spam

the overheads also need to not chain into each other

even a marginal amount of combo differentiation from the other caxes would do a lot to set it apart in terms of feel

[polar nexus]

whyyyyyyy

that resistant dmg ffs

[south folio]

trajedy

[stone fern]

"disgustingly_resilient"

the game is full of coder slang isnt it?

[oak ermine]

The calculator just doesn’t really have the property localised

But “infested” doesn’t really tell the whole story in the code, whereas “something is so disgusting that it’s resilient through that” does, somewhat

[stone fern]

are the ogryn personalities called dumb, dumber and dumbest in game then?

[oak ermine]

The technicality in which some of the blessings are described is very literal

[oak ermine]

Nah, they are just numbers IIRC

[stone fern]

one of the t2 blessings on my ogryn is not even localized in game

im 90% sure no one noticed

[oak ermine]

I have been pointing at that for a couple of weeks at least

There is something going on it the background that has leaked into the base game (or at least does not have a proper localisation in the base game yet)

[ember yew]

what are those 5 ogryn testers doing

[oak ermine]

Ceaseless Barrage is one thing, and also a Helbro lasguns blessing had had its name changed

[drowsy steppe]

Making ogryn weapons Op and call it balanced

[oak ermine]

[stone fern]

ye thats the one

[oak ermine]

I believe I have found the code snippet that would suggest that the blessing now indeed makes suppressed enemies take more damage

Which is… mainly making it useful for handling shooters, but that’s technically a good thing

[oak ermine]

(I haven’t tested this, though, nor how big an increase it is)

[stone fern]

can they make the game open source already

[oak ermine]

No

[stone fern]

well anyhow im sure when the game is finally out of early access its gonna be fixed

[drowsy steppe]

"Gamers. We've heard your concerns and it has been a few long months since our last big patch. We are so very excited to announce new skins in our cosmetic shop. This time with a FAT 10% Discount."

[oak ermine]

Mal could become the next marketing manager for DT

[drowsy steppe]

I got the corpo speak down to a T. Sign me up Fatshark

[quaint verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bruh-annoyed-gif-21339312

[fading vale]

ohio

[oak ermine]

Hey lazorr

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/skibi-di-skibidi-toilet-skibidi-cameraman-skibidi-shower-gif-14100519840818449994

[drowsy steppe]

Hello cat man

[fading vale]

another day, another good opportunity for killing josho in helldivers

[quaint verge]

[frank night]

post steve

[fading vale]

he is eating

[quaint verge]

the void

[frank night]

excellent steve

[fading vale]

it's still quite dark outside here and I have all my lights turned down so

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/jlkofr

u cannot compare

to the ways i teamkill

[fading vale]

you will never beat my nade from down town

that I didn't have shadowplay setup for

[royal vortex]

u did that on purpose

this was all natural

[fading vale]

https://streamable.com/y89yeo

look at how perfect the bait and switch is

without even saying anything to bird

[royal vortex]

evil

[elfin steppe]

tf? it's not even 7 am

[ember yew]

New recolors of old skins*

[south folio]

good job killing josho

[fading vale]

[royal vortex]

bad arco

no plasteel for u

[violet root]

plasteel?!?! where

[south folio]

i eated it

[violet root]

NOOOO

[royal vortex]

anyways

https://streamable.com/b4ls32

appreciate the explosions

[fading vale]

this strategy worked way too well

[royal vortex]

we burned through 10 reinforces in 30 seconds on an eradicate

[fading vale]

but we did indeed eradicate them

[royal vortex]

so true

[fading vale]

all sacrifices in the name of democracy

[south folio]

i love managed democracy

[royal vortex]

if u love it so much why wont u play helldivers

[south folio]

no

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-angrycat-orange-orangecat-gif-12955247756667881418

[south folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/772475843510796320.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[fading vale]

don't remind me of the houseplants

that was so damn funny

[frozen glen]

arco if u play now u will make it in time for the NEW and UPCOMING WARBONd

[frank night]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-honor-gif-20594347

[south folio]

you have only bad and terrible qualities about you

[south folio]

no

[royal vortex]

LMFAO

[south folio]

what's this about the houseplants

[royal vortex]

dude that shit was so out of nowhere

[frank night]

Stan (casual observation): She wouldn't make it through 1945

[south folio]

OH that one

[royal vortex]

nope

[frank night]

I dont think it's the same

[south folio]

oh

[frank night]

I have fooled you

[south folio]

you bastard

[frank night]

You foolish man

[south folio]

you've taken my trust and turned it upside down

you servant of the devil

[royal vortex]

dough posted this

and then stan said "they both begin with a so i autocompleted the wrong one"

and for some reason he volunteered the information that the dude dancing is from his houseplants server that he's in cuz he has to figure out how to keep his houseplants alive

and this just

man i dont even know why

it was just the funniest shit ever

[fading vale]

it was just so off the wall

[royal vortex]

convene the houseplant council, stan has a question

[south folio]

man HELD HOSTAGE by his HOUSEPLANT

[fading vale]

I need to clip the don't go Josho

[royal vortex]

lmao

also i posted the and asked stan his thoughts on it

[south folio]

did josho unwittingly walk into his own death

[royal vortex]

and this lead to him saying he thought the automaton emote has a milk mustache before realizing it was his mouth

and this reminded him of the crabs with a milk mustache because they ate nitrogen bubbles that froze their mouth shut

[fading vale]

no stan was just begging josho not to leave discord

in a really sad voice

[royal vortex]

and this brought up how it would be impossible for me to figure out if this would be a cozy state of being because i cannot sink that far

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/krxlom

[royal vortex]

and stan offered to give me cement shoes to go diving for the rest of my life

quite rude

[elfin steppe]

sweet liberty NOOOOO

[south folio]

stan based???

[fading vale]

oh I forgot about the cement shoes lol

[south folio]

it makes me wonder if stan has that thing where carbs get turned into alcohol

it is one of the ways that i am rationalizing his behavior

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-sassy-molassy-gif-25074369

[royal vortex]

stop posting this indian man

[north sedge]

Lol

I like that me surfing tanks is the least interesting part of that clip

[royal vortex]

stan was griefing some of my clips of cool charger one shots

just like he did to my solo clutch

[north sedge]

Lol

[south folio]

i thought that it would be related to the highlight of the clip but nope

[north sedge]

I forgot it even happened, I just wanted to upload the pretzel bit

[royal vortex]

"...pretzels..."

[south folio]

that sick bastard

[fading vale]

I hid my waffle pretzels in a drawer under my plastic bags

[royal vortex]

lmfaoooo

that shit was all just so out of nowhere

[south folio]

the more you know

[royal vortex]

he said he hid them in a rush so they may not even be under his plastic bags

[south folio]

did he say what he's hiding them from

[frozen glen]

the irs

[fading vale]

I can't believe he has such contraband

[royal vortex]

what a freak

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/l7pzlz

[fading vale]

we need to test what happens if you swan dive off a mountain into a teammate

[north sedge]

It might just slide them away, but who knows

[frosty herald]

I wonder if i can still softlock the mineral gathering objective

[polar nexus]

i am bit sad the crucis player had his boss dmg stolen by the recon vet

[hushed knoll]

????

[hushed knoll]

Wait does the dominator have burst mode

I think I asked this yesterday idk if I got a response

[polar nexus]

hi Stan

[royal vortex]

You know what you are.

[violet root]

hi stan

[hushed knoll]

Hi Sheri

Korea

Doris

Fuck

[royal vortex]

oh my lord

[drowsy steppe]

LMAO

[hushed knoll]

Hi

[royal vortex]

i just witnessed a homicide

[violet root]

i didn’t get a hi back,,

[drowsy steppe]

We lost another one

[polar nexus]

wow

https://tenor.com/view/suffocate-homicide-kiling-someone-smother-smothering-gif-11917070

[drowsy steppe]

Who is this doris guy

[violet root]

doris more like boris

[frozen glen]

it do

it do have burst mode

[royal vortex]

does

[frozen glen]

it do

[royal vortex]

[violet root]

it do

[royal vortex]

implode

[frosty herald]

Give dominator automatic

[drowsy steppe]

OwO dominator

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/infinite-wealth-ichiban-kasuga-ichiban-by-the-nine-im-tweakin-like-a-dragon-gif-10336401465010050963

[violet root]

HAHAHAHAH

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweakin-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-25519944

[frozen glen]

holy shit 2h axe

wahoo

nvm its just penance revamp

fuck u @royal vortex

[royal vortex]

what did i do

[frozen glen]

this is all ur fault

i blame u

[royal vortex]

i predicted everything here

btw

i knew it

(none of this was hard to guess)

[frosty herald]

Fuck you red

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-when-i-get-you-grab-hagscraft-hoarah-loux-gif-11194373446447194887

[frozen glen]

curse u and ur astral premonitions

[royal vortex]

it would be cool if penance points were used to purchase cosmetics

[sinful widget]

yes

[royal vortex]

the penance system has been very strangely designed and kind of broke when they did p13 because now theres 3x the "subclasses" per character

[frozen glen]

it would be cool if penance points were used to purchase josho

[royal vortex]

i am not for sale

[frosty herald]

Legit everyone wants the penance cosmetics for subclasses

Theyre even in the files

So hopefully they will come now

[fading vale]

WOO PENANCES AND CRAFTING

LET'S GOOOOO

[frosty herald]

Dont forget weapons missions and new enemies

[frozen glen]

red weapons never 😎

[royal vortex]

finally laz will natively roll thrust on a hammer

[south folio]

where's my 2h force sword

garbage

[fading vale]

they made it sound like the new stuff was a long ways out

[royal vortex]

u know this is because FS cannot keep a timeline

[royal vortex]

Our first update will focus on a comprehensive revamp and expansion of the penance system, including adding many additional rewards and a completely new way to earn them. We will be sharing more information on this update by the end of the month, along with a dev blog so keep your eyes peeled on our Communication channels to learn more.

[ember yew]

here's your red gear, 1% drop chance as mission reward, auric/ms only

[frozen glen]

they have broken many universes due to their inability to maintain causality

[royal vortex]

to be fair the penance stuff will presumably be out relatively soon

im not going to fault them for taking time with the crafting update given the current iteration was slapped together very haphazardly

[frosty herald]

Helldivers 2 gave them a boost

[royal vortex]

i think this is worded in a way specifically to keep their options open

[south folio]

yeah a p high-level deescription of stuff

[fading vale]

well yeah, it's non committal

[south folio]

can't believe they didn't specifically mention a 2h force swrod

[royal vortex]

i will take that over being lied to about the progress of stuff like vt2 versus

[fading vale]

we are thinking about touching every aspect of the game at some point

[frozen glen]

cant believe they didnt mention a 2h axe for zealot yet

trash game im going back to the hit ubisoft game skull and bones

[royal vortex]

quadruple A

[fading vale]

AAAA

[coarse birch]

Review bombing the game

[south folio]

so true

[frozen glen]

i cant believe they nerfed the force activation of force sword from 3 to 1

[lusty turtle]

I already told u i removed it, cmon arab

[south folio]

arab

oh wait

that's my name

FUCK

[royal vortex]

skele how much do i have to pay the dt animators to redo some of the moves for the achlys caxe

[lusty turtle]

Idk i dont use axe

Axe stinky

[royal vortex]

the achlys has potential to be sick

[frosty herald]

I will pay the darktide devs 1 footlong sub for the power greataxe and power greatsword

[coarse birch]

Any BM weapon feels gross

Achyls is the most acceptable

[royal vortex]

achlys needs a comprehensive rework of how moves chain and an animation rework of the push attack

[frozen glen]

achlys needs to have 2 diagonal swings and the 3rd swing being a horizontal

[frosty herald]

The most reasonable solition is removing taxes

[lusty turtle]

Thats cool and all but im busy sobbing as i try and figure out wtf to do with paul

Why are ogryn weapons like this

[royal vortex]

dude ogryns dont deserve weapon reworks

[coarse birch]

Achyls mk4 las psyker 🤔

[frosty herald]

2 handed paul

[coarse birch]

Ogryn deserves a class to replace them

[royal vortex]

i unironically want the achlys push attack to be an inverted rashad/antax l3

because rn it does nothing valuable despite being the only way to chain sweeps with the h1

[frozen glen]

so

the antax and rashad's pa

[royal vortex]

the antax and rashad both have dogshit push attacks for damage

u also hit the bad guys with the non-business end of the axe with the push attack on achlys/rashad

[left iron]

[frozen glen]

do u

i thought that was the special

[royal vortex]

p sure both hit em with the back of it

[south folio]

it's with the side isn't it

[royal vortex]

but like the h1 should be ~4 cleave base so u can push it over the cleave threshold on certain enemies with +power

[coarse birch]

Its the back end

[frozen glen]

me stabbing enemies with the flat end of the antax

[royal vortex]

the push attack should be like 6 cleave

[coarse birch]

But the achyls had like a fire axe design

[royal vortex]

so its like less damage but more safety but it hits significantly harder than the other 2 push attacks

the h2/h3 on achlys also need to not chain into each other so you're forced to use some of the strikedown lights for single target

[coarse birch]

Aren't the lights better/similar anyway

[lusty turtle]

Giving the achlys to ogryn

[royal vortex]

damage profile reworks is a much easier issue to tackle than the moveset straight up being nonfunctional in a lot of ways

[frozen glen]

need sum1 to be the tester and rework achlys

[royal vortex]

if i had any guarantee i wasnt screaming into the void i would write a document for the achlys

[frosty herald]

Me asf

[royal vortex]

because a caxe that requires you to think would be cool

i think a bm caxe has one of the best feels in the game because cutting the head of like 4 guys off at the same time sounds fkin incredible in this game

[frozen glen]

i do have be enjoying using majority of the moveset in weapons nowadays