zealot-class

[drowsy steppe]

so true

[placid fiber]

lol I outplayed all 3 of them with a level 3 zealot on a malice mission xD

[drowsy steppe]

gee its almost like youre smurfing in lower levels

[placid fiber]

ikr?

I mean one guy was level 30

[zinc talon]

PERTEC

LIDLWUNS

DEY KENT ELP IT DEYS PUNEY TAYKS US TA TUFFIN EM UP

also going into a run like, two ranks back from what you're used to so like a 4 if you do aurics full time

the power maul and/or grenade gauntlet

chef's kiss

[drowsy steppe]

shes so cute

[nimble fiber]

its way 2 early and I miss my bedge

[south folio]

consult a brick

[drowsy steppe]

its never 2 early

[nimble fiber]

I hope your sleeves roll down when u wash your hands

[south folio]

i wield the power of WIND (a desk fan) that will heal me from such grievous circumstances

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fan-chill-relax-floor-gif-7541329

[polar nexus]

Unarmored is meta. The darkest time line.

[polar nexus]

Karlach is a puppy, Shart is an emo teenager, Azazel is a girlboss

I miss Morrigan

[drowsy steppe]

Morrigan and Shart are bae

[polar nexus]

I did not vibe with Shart but I am 41 so

[novel heath]

Is this game dead?

[polar nexus]

no

[novel heath]

I haven't played since Christmas and it looks like there's been no major updates

[polar nexus]

it's fatshark

[novel heath]

Love it

[south folio]

you can find comfort in the fact that this is just fatshark pace

[drowsy steppe]

This is just reminiscent of past year's drought

[drowsy steppe]

Well canonically sharts in her 40s

[fossil crag]

Guys what the current zealot meta build

[boreal cedar]

my meta is my stupid onetap monstrosities build

[oak ermine]

There is "none", Zealot has at least a couple of good, competitive builds that don't really outweight one another

[drowsy steppe]

Zealots got a good selection of viable weapons

[oak ermine]

I for instance play something like Mk2 Evis and Bolter, and throwing knives, with Inexorable Judgement keystone

[south folio]

i'm currently on the bolter piety chainsword grindset

[drowsy steppe]

Arcowo playing zealot unironically?

[south folio]

ye i have a newfound passion for zealot

[fair igloo]

chastise + anti armor gun + everything else melee is so fun

[south folio]

it started out as playing knife zealot for roomba-ing during premades

then i learned of the FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE about chswords from exhillious so i'm currently at that stage

[drowsy steppe]

You're on the 2nd stage of the zealot pipeline

It's all a non straight line from here

[south folio]

a downward line

zealot also feels pretty comfy for me in pubs for not dying to anything besides to disablers

at least with vet, i occasionally got caught out doing stupid stuff involving maulers and crushers

[drowsy steppe]

I still struggle to play against Ragers in melee

[south folio]

yeah they are very poopoo in melee

at least with the crit chainsword build i'm running, i can spam chastise and have enduring faith for 50% tdr to tank them

i also just sometimes bolter them if i don't have my ult up cuz i'm not risking that

[royal vortex]

i report the ragers for saying racial slurs and get them all banned from the match

[south folio]

or unleash the full fury of my 12 kitchen knives

[drowsy steppe]

Crit cdr 😫

[south folio]

OwO

[drowsy steppe]

😫 😫

I'm reducing my cooldown

[south folio]

!!!

[ivory marlin]

Its 3 am

Just sized up my gauges

We chillin

[fading vale]

[bitter yoke]

just throw knives at em think it's 2 headshots on damnation

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/qta0u9

[fading vale]

it's 1 with maniac on your weapon

[bitter yoke]

it affetcs throwable knives as well? didn't know it

[royal vortex]

ur blessings do too

[boreal cedar]

does that work on ur primary

[fading vale]

held weapon perks and stuff effect it

[boreal cedar]

i mean ur ranged weapon

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/qzijg3

[boreal cedar]

i might put maniac or my bolter if it does

prob gonna do maniac flak

[fading vale]

yes it's your held weapon

[frozen glen]

flak maniac is so underrated

[bitter yoke]

when i dodge backwards he just leaps forward and shits on me with the overhead lock on, how is it not happening here

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/7cez68 this one is really funny fire frenzy and deathspitter work on them

[boreal cedar]

ill probably replace my carapace buff for maniac then

[royal vortex]

you're dodging too early

[fading vale]

timing

[boreal cedar]

you can replace a edited perk without it taking another edit slot right

[bitter yoke]

so it's just timing mistake nothing to do with it locking onto you

[royal vortex]

overheads have super short dodge catches too so you can literally just dodge on the right timing and not care about distance

[fading vale]

anything already edited can be changed indefinitely

[royal vortex]

yup

[fading vale]

one could argue crushers shouldn't do the cha cha slide but they do

[bitter yoke]

you recokon it's doable with around 100 ping?, might just run a couple to try

[royal vortex]

i do it with ~70 consistently

[boreal cedar]

100 ping is good wym

[royal vortex]

but the game's netcode is terrible so you will run into issues where you dodge correctly and the game rolls it back

[fading vale]

ha 100 ping is good....

this games netcode is not so great

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/9faa28

if u watch the dodge counter here it pulls me back into the bursters

cant do nothin about it

[bitter yoke]

so just dodge sideways lol

[boreal cedar]

seen worser

shrimp issue

[boreal cedar]

i just stunlock ragers

[royal vortex]

nah if the game reverts your dodge it doesn't matter what you do

[boreal cedar]

hammer my beloved

[royal vortex]

because it resets your location

also generally easier to dodge backwards

[boreal cedar]

why bother dodging when i can just mash space and heavies

[fading vale]

you have no idea how bad the netcode was like idk 6 months ago

[oak ermine]

That was painful to watch

[fading vale]

but they did some kind of cheat "fixes" for bursters and dogs

[royal vortex]

u can see the ghost hit on the flamer right before too

i shouldve been ready

[fading vale]

and no regs are less common but they still happen all the damn time

[boreal cedar]

what armor types are scab captains btw

unyielding ?

[royal vortex]

flak

[fading vale]

carapace and flak

oh

twins have cara heads

[royal vortex]

the twins have like

3 armor types

[fading vale]

captain is flak

[royal vortex]

iirc

and a bunch of weird damage modifiers on hard mode

[boreal cedar]

i still need to do damnation twin

[drowsy steppe]

so painful to watch I forgot to pause the video and it kept looping 😭

[bitter yoke]

last thing then i'll leave you in peace, what is the % treshold on dmg and stability for a bolter that makes it not worth rolling, is like 78% borderline acceptable? cause i heard below that you don't get you breakpoints to kill bulwarks/crushers

[boreal cedar]

weird thing is that i feel like my build does like no damage against captains

[boreal cedar]

i can deal like 80% of an monstrosity in a single hit but captains barely take like 10%

[royal vortex]

idk its a little bit vibes but anything above 70% for damage is probably fine

stability ur gonna have to mess around with to see what ur willing to put up with

[fading vale]

uh a hammer should be able to do around 30 or 40% damage to a captain on damnation last I checked

[royal vortex]

on vet u have like a shit ton of different stacking damage buffs on zealot generally the bolter is a hipfire magdump tool so you don't care too much

[bitter yoke]

i'm willing to sac a lil just cause it's about speed mag dumping into big shiz

[boreal cedar]

i dunno i dont have much success on my side

[fading vale]

you just need to chastise and headshot them, preferably a backstab

[boreal cedar]

can you stack headshots and backstabs

[fading vale]

also only use lights on their shield

yes

[boreal cedar]

would it be better to do a face headshot or a regular backstab with stealth

[fading vale]

also flak perk helps

[boreal cedar]

been running unyielding damage and crit damage

[fading vale]

with stealth a backstab and ideally a headshot

never ever run crit damage

never

[boreal cedar]

why nor

not

[fading vale]

it's not 10%

the math is really bad

[boreal cedar]

how much is it

[fading vale]

for a hammer you might get 3%

[royal vortex]

it is always lower than what you expect

it's 10% to the additional damage added by a crit rather than total damage when critting

[boreal cedar]

oh thats horrendous

[royal vortex]

so its bonus is relative to your crit modifier but it will never be 10%

[fading vale]

run flak unyielding on hammer

[boreal cedar]

also whats the difference between the club and the hammer

[royal vortex]

which is why all the blessing/talent weakspot/crit damage increases are a minimum of 25-30% besides BM which had the weakspot damage added purely to separate the tiers

do you mean "club" as in the crusher

[fading vale]

everything

[boreal cedar]

can u be more specific

[boreal cedar]

ya

[fading vale]

see pins for crusher guide

[royal vortex]

the crusher is less about the single target damage of the hammer and more of a generalist crowd control weapon

[boreal cedar]

i dont want a guide i just wanna know the difference

[royal vortex]

crusher doesn't do bad into any targets but ur not dealing a shit ton of boss damage unless u get to 1v1 the boss and nobody else hits it

[fading vale]

I mean the guide tells you what the crusher does, it's not that long

[ivory marlin]

Crusher?

I barely know er

[boreal cedar]

i still need to try other melee on zealot

[ivory marlin]

Bleed knife

[boreal cedar]

all that changed about my build is me switching from slug shotgun to revolver to bolter

as soon as i got the hammer i only used that

im still surprised i never knew bolter had a full auto firing mode

i thought it was burst or semi exclusively

[royal vortex]

some of the guns in this game do not explain themselves to new players very well

[frozen glen]

its cuz they cant talk

[boreal cedar]

reminds me the one time i upgraded the wrong revolver

wasted like 800 plasteel

[royal vortex]

untrue

they let them talk in p17

[frozen glen]

wtf

[ivory marlin]

Hi red

[frozen glen]

greetings

[south folio]

ur insane

[ivory marlin]

Arco

Whats your favorite psyker “grenade”

[drifting wolf]

rock

[ivory marlin]

Real

[south folio]

assail

cuz smite is boring, and brainburst is also boring

i can at least use assail in some mechanically interesting way

[royal vortex]

assail pays for my drug money

[coarse birch]

yeah assail is dum but i can use it in an interesting way with melee psyker

[south folio]

and is one of psyker's few things where i don't need to be sitting charging there

0.2s to throw the first shard out and 0.33s for the 2nd shard

[coarse birch]

yeah you can weave it pretty seamlessly into gameplay

which is my fav part

similar to tknives although can be used in more scenarios

[royal vortex]

i want a staff with a more generalist lmb or even one with a specialized role that fits better with melee/assail so u can actually play a proper mage dude without sitting there charging shit

[coarse birch]

yeah that would be nice

[royal vortex]

it does not have to be gun

but staff psyker is genuinely like one of the least input intensive things in the game

its ogryn tier atm

[coarse birch]

yeah staffs are not very complex past traumas initial learning curve with the aiming

surge ill use in one build but its like the least interactive thing

[royal vortex]

voidstrike is a projectile weapon in a game filled with corridors and mostly linear pathing on top of gigantic cleave

[coarse birch]

and its also a large projectile

[royal vortex]

it has the appearance of being hard but most stuff runs in a straight line or stands still

[coarse birch]

yeah i dont really consider void being a projectile even a weakness

you are not aiming in even the same way a gun has to

[boreal cedar]

i tried void once and got bored

[royal vortex]

purg and surge staff are two opposites sides of the boring as hell coin

[coarse birch]

yeah i cant use void anymore

ill just take surge over it

[boreal cedar]

i like purge

[coarse birch]

if i need cara damage

[boreal cedar]

its fun with brain burst

i wish the zealot flamethrower was what purge was

its so bloody slow

[royal vortex]

none of the staffs require enough mechanical interaction or risk for me to really care

peril is incredibly free and none of them are complicated

[coarse birch]

at this point i dont find most psyker builds to really take that many risks

you can shit out so much DPS

i just happen to like their melee/assail more than a lot of stuff in the game so i run it

[royal vortex]

gunpsyker with ds4 at least does not have good crowd control outside of incidental assail shards

but u just outrun stuff anyways

[coarse birch]

yeah i just speed away with DD

and assail comes back fast enough

and idc about like crushers mixed in cause ds4

or deimos in my case

ill run knife every once in a while on psyker so i can feel somewhat not carried

cause i cant just one shot everything/knock it over

[royal vortex]

😔

[fading vale]

peril used to be not free

[coarse birch]

i think thats one of my least favorite things about the balance atm, it feels hard to actually feel like i am getting through the mission due to knowing what i am doing and not X thing just beating the game for me

[fading vale]

and then they made it completely free

[coarse birch]

so then i go down and feel 100x worse

yeah peril is super w/e cause it quells so fast

[fading vale]

this is why I hammer

[coarse birch]

sometimes im dumb and blow myself up cause im not paying attention (once a mission)

[royal vortex]

i trust in the fact that i win games with p much w/e loadout i choose unless it is supreme unbearable dogshit

peril atm is just a dead mechanic

like it doesn't do what its supposed to do

[coarse birch]

i have gotten through histg with taxe 2 and agri revo

ignore i ran assail

[royal vortex]

soulblaze application and peril management should be like

some of the cornerstones of psyker that are unique and cool

but soulblaze application is free and relatively non-conditional and peril management is so easy and hardly restrictive enough to matter unless you're not used to it

[fading vale]

do either of yall want to heckdive, idk if you've slept

[coarse birch]

i did sleep actually

[royal vortex]

i have slept a mighty 6 hours

i can dive

[coarse birch]

just woke up early and couldnt sleep again

[frozen glen]

arc shotgun mhgmhgmghmg

[coarse birch]

i can also heckdive

[fading vale]

gimme 10 minutes and I get on

[royal vortex]

[coarse birch]

i do like stuff like blazing trauma but its do comically dumb that it p much overrides it being cool

[oak ermine]

I think that’s the point though, no? It occurs to me that the devs wanted to move away from VT2s heat mechanics to make a more approachable resource management system

[royal vortex]

trauma is just overpowered out of the box

[coarse birch]

purg is p uninteresting as is shriek/PC

despite being crazy

yeah trauma is dumb on its own

its like crusher where you can just not ever be in danger

[fading vale]

the issue is really the whole infinite scaling thing with how they have tuned the difficulty

[oak ermine]

Sienna was never a really popular class choice, largely because she had the confusing (I don’t believe that!) heat management system tied to her ranged abilities

[royal vortex]

peril is not given enough weight behind it to make it an effective limiter on staffs, so if something is too strong with staffs generally it's off the rails

and if it's bad it's just like, super meh

[coarse birch]

yeah PC being just elite kills is dumb

like that is so much reward for so little work

[fading vale]

the only thing keeping the flamer from being super overpowered is bulwark spam

which is another infinite scaling problem

[royal vortex]

because of their balancing choices regarding peril gen and quell time having a hard-hitting staff that does good aoe means you just completely demolish everything like with void

[coarse birch]

infinite cleave across the board i wouldnt mind seeing gone

[royal vortex]

infinite cleave on melees is significantly less problematic than ranged at least

because ranged weapons arent animation or damage profile limited

[coarse birch]

yeah i mind it a little less on melee although it makes you p safe

even like mk15 evis i feel very safe in melee cause even if im killing 4 things per swing im staggering an extra 7

[fading vale]

I'm not sure how you nerf the trauma cleave though

[oak ermine]

Make a target cap

[coarse birch]

yeah traumas weird, youd have to change the stagger or something

would prob be easier

[fading vale]

a target cap would feel bad

[fresh sentinel]

average scoreboard mod user

[calm salmon]

make psyker's more fragile. . . even more fragile?

[oak ermine]

Epicentre does that somewhat already, but Blazing Spirit is one big elephant in the room

[calm salmon]

ranged enemies are your only threat with trauma staff

make em hurt psyker again

[fading vale]

pubs already melt to 2 bruisers

[royal vortex]

trauma staff should not be aoe stagger everything constantly: The Weapon

[coarse birch]

i moreso hate the stagger/CC on it ye

[fading vale]

yeah I guess you could nerf the stagger or radius but idk

[calm salmon]

i dont

[coarse birch]

its just another instance of pause the game

[royal vortex]

having a more cc oriented staff is fine but the roaching you get away with is absurd

[calm salmon]

it makes me invulnerable to melee enemies

[fading vale]

maybe nerf specifically the stagger radius?

[royal vortex]

it plays the game for you any time you get out of position

[coarse birch]

yeah the stagger radius

or make it so i cant knock back down shit as soon as it gets up

in the case of like crushers

[frozen glen]

bring back patch 1 trauma

[fading vale]

it should still stagger in the epicenter

[calm salmon]

80% peril for one charge

lets not

[tropic terrace]

legalize nuclear bombs

[royal vortex]

even with the old peril gen quelling is significantly freer now

[calm salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-17925654032794413967

[oak ermine]

Modded players nerfed one of the VT2 staves by making it have obscenely high charge costs and lower uptime. It still was one of the more played options

[coarse birch]

peril didnt feel like an issue even before to me honestly but we also had shriek

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[coarse birch]

and BB is not particularly peril heavy

[fading vale]

the peril patch was like 12 months ago or something

[royal vortex]

to be fair with dt any staff is one of the most played staffs cuz we only have FOUR

[frosty herald]

Back to the useless trauma

[boreal cedar]

what is it with ppl talking about a class is the other class channel today

[coarse birch]

yeah its been a minute

[boreal cedar]

had the same happen with zealot in ogryn chat lol

[fading vale]

idk man get used to it

everyone plays everything

and just sticks to their chat mostly

[boreal cedar]

i dont find it annoying i just find it funny

[oak ermine]

Hence also drastically changing any/all of them is a risky balance decision, unless the change doesn’t “seem” to be a nerf per se

[stuck vale]

whys every build has blessed bullet curio? is there some difference behind curio names and appearances or just cosmetics?

[boreal cedar]

its just in servers id be in everyone would be immediatly nuked for it

[boreal cedar]

its cosmetic

[oak ermine]

Surge change was somewhat drastic, from what I remember in regard to forum posts and whatnot

[fading vale]

ah, usually when people say that they start raging but it's pretty lax

[royal vortex]

the moderation team is fairly lax here in that they dont care unless ur being a dipshit

[coarse birch]

talk about DT please

this is a DT server

[boreal cedar]

i noticed

[south folio]

yeah i'd tone down the epicentre of the trauma

[fresh sentinel]

would this happen to be coru because they gave coru a minor nerf in live recently and a lot of people were winging about how it's literally unusable now

[south folio]

and make it so that you have to actually aim it

[royal vortex]

the class chats are more divided by general community rather than being focused on the classes themselves just cuz thats how the server is

[fresh sentinel]

(it's still the best weapon in the entire game)

[oak ermine]

It was Coruscation, yeah

[fresh sentinel]

VT2 sienna situation is weird

[oak ermine]

It was made obscenely powerful in vanilla

[fresh sentinel]

she's the most powerful class undoubtably but no one plays her

and many people even think she's weak

ig OE gives a contender for most busted class now granted

[oak ermine]

That’s because playing around Sienna to her fullest extent is hard - team play is hard 😔

[tropic terrace]

Coruscation has been busted since the day it came out

[fresh sentinel]

she's really not that hard to play tho

[oak ermine]

Oh no, definitely not

[fresh sentinel]

have people really never used heat based weapons in an fps before

i thought a lot of people came in from DRG

[tropic terrace]

I think most just find her main gameplay with staves to be very boring

[oak ermine]

But she has a lot of powerful tools that go beyond the complexity of melee/ranged (or oneshotting a patrol with THT as Bardin, for that matter)

[tropic terrace]

by most I mean like, people with like under 50 hours

not exploring the other characters

[fresh sentinel]

dagger/fireball unchained is my main as far as sienna goes

ik i could run flail and coru but i dont care that shit boring

[tropic terrace]

true as fuck

I was a crowbill enjoyer, even when it had literally 0 cleave

[fresh sentinel]

dagger based it makes me go zoom zoom zoomies

[tropic terrace]

it did so much damage on Unchained builds that cleave didn't matter once you started oneshotting everything before maulers

and any groups were dealt with by beam staff

[fresh sentinel]

tbh i'm not sure how you could really nerf coru to reasonable levels

it feels like the idea of the staff is fundamentally broken

[oak ermine]

With how enemies work, and how one can exploit that, and how enemies tend to not avoid the fire at all? It was bound to be a disaster

Having map knowledge can also help immensely. You know where a horde will spawn - place a pyre there and half the horde is dead

[tropic terrace]

true, the fact that enemies just path through fire, and the time it takes for Vermintide enemies, especially chaos, to get out of any drop down animation so they just linger in fire pools outside their spawns

Coru makes horde clear a joke, fire is infinite stacking in vermintide right?

[fresh sentinel]

i mean there's also the fact that the fire lasts for like 10 years so you can just spam it everywhere like a lunatic and still be about as effective as someone placing them over every enemy spawn

probably why they did a heat nerf in modded

[fresh sentinel]

pretty sure there is a limit

the infinite pierce is a bigger problem

[oak ermine]

Coruscation was unique in that regard, because it applied DoTs on different actions, like: one on initial cast on top of enemies; one from the lingering pyre, which refreshed over time; and one whenever the enemies re-enter the pyre

[fresh sentinel]

fireball was my favorite staff so i was quite surprised to see it's considered meta in this game

[polar nexus]

holy

[frosty herald]

Corusant

[drowsy steppe]

Cyra is trained in the ways of the knife

*runs away in front of everyone

[fresh sentinel]

gotta get that loner value

what do you mean i'm depriving the whole team of toughness regen? i'm using my talents lmao

[nimble fiber]

[ornate bone]

tbh, with how much toughness most players stack and how toughness regen is both a flat value and has a perk competing with the likes of toughness, health and gunner/sniper res, I don't really think one more person is going to make that sluggish regen anything gamechanging

Specially when the main sources of toughness are toughness talents and killing shit

[fading vale]

its not like anyone cares about coherency toughness regen

[ornate bone]

I think I have it on my loner zealot to squeeze regen out of the zooming, but it's the only actual instance in which I used it

[fading vale]

loner does supposedly make your team take more of the special spawns and stuff

[obtuse stirrup]

Tbh I like Loner now. It means instead of going 2/2 when you split you can do 3/1. You just have to not be one of those pricks that doesn't try to work with the team at all

being on the far side of the same room taking out the ranged elites and specials that are already engaged with the rest of the team is good

being four rooms ahead starting the midevent while your team is wading through everything you completely ignored is heretical

[fading vale]

I mean it doesn't really have anything to do with splitting 3 1 or 2 2

nobody needs coherency

[lusty turtle]

the only 2 noticeable coherency auras are corruption heal and ammo regen

[ornate bone]

While loner seems to tweak the specials a bit, I don't think it changes the 2/2 to 3/1

People still generally want someone watching their back and having 2 competent players together does the trick most of the time

[fading vale]

it just exists to save points and gen a small amount of toughness while stealthed

[ornate bone]

Not like loner makes the zealot entirely immune to getting disabled by specials

[obtuse stirrup]

It means you don't get the punishment squads right?

the way the game deliberately throws extra dogs, mutants, trappers and flamers at you if you're isolated or something

[violet root]

mreow

[fading vale]

it means other people get more of them

[obtuse stirrup]

tbf I only heard that here

ok, so the punishment squads are redirected rather than extra?

makes sense

[fading vale]

cause it doesn't count you as being out of coherency

allegedly

[lusty turtle]

those still spawn, but if you have stealthy they aggro swap to the main party of players

this is why i personally think stealth speedrunning needs to die

[royal vortex]

i have never run into a stealth speedrunner who did not just die within 3 minutes

it is a self solving issue

[south folio]

i had a game with an infiltrate stealth vet who just ran ahead and stealthed, resulting in the aggro just heading onto the other three of us

they were truly gaming

[royal vortex]

all of the ones i get have mental defects

[obtuse stirrup]

I've seen some good ones

[drowsy steppe]

we should segregate the good and the bad Ogryn iq players

[obtuse stirrup]

it's actually more miserable than when they're shit

[ornate bone]

A real based stealth vet gamer uses the aggro to get ez backstabs

[south folio]

being in a game with three other stealth players is also quite an experience

[royal vortex]

ive ran into 4

[frosty herald]

mean

i am cry

[obtuse stirrup]

I just always try a votekick if they're being that egregious about it

[lusty turtle]

you ever seen grimalackts vids? they are a great showing of just how detrimental to peoples player experience a good stealth zealot can be

[royal vortex]

one was just trolling and didnt kill anything

one was trying to powerlevel a level 26 psyker so me and mankar left both of them dead after the archivum sycorax mid event until the end event

[south folio]

yeah i noticed that in his video, you could start ammo raid's midevent if you were the only player there

now, all 4 players need to drop before the interrogator prompt shows up

[frosty herald]

i am a respectable stealth knife zealot

[royal vortex]

one joined mid-mercantile, ran 30 meters ahead, got dogged, and left

and another started his personality disorder crusade at a boss spawn on vigil station oblivium and i had some choice words for him

[obtuse stirrup]

you can start the event in the middle of one of the desert maps on your own too, the servitor colony one

[lusty turtle]

ye he was stress testing this stuff and honestly, some of the matches i've played with him

by the time u get to the mid event hes at the end event

[obtuse stirrup]

that guy I managed to kick :)

[royal vortex]

u dont have to be good to do the problematic stuff

[lusty turtle]

oh i know, but this dude is good AND a speedrunner

[royal vortex]

both times i saw people actually get far they were unmitigated dogshit and got all the aggro then died anyways

[lusty turtle]

like genuinly good, was great doin matches with him

[royal vortex]

its a super boring way to play the game too idk why people do it

[south folio]

SPEEDRUNNING and STEALTH

they're pro gamers

[royal vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7rqIw291EU

[obtuse stirrup]

It's fun for the person doing it I guess

it's just miserable for the others

[royal vortex]

i did this once and its like technically u can add more bs modifiers but it is super uninteresting

[obtuse stirrup]

there's solo mods for that shit

[frosty herald]

i love using stealth for objectives and revives

[royal vortex]

kite to the end and then if ur actually trying to clear stuff u flamer or kant flame spam

there's one variation of it that i think is genuinely funny but i gave up because it ends super quickly if you're too slow and thats playing stealth vet and trying to deal 0 damage

[fading vale]

stealth is good for objectives and revives but not for being a solo lord and detriment to team

but it's stealth so people are going to solo lord

[frosty herald]

I would never go away solo

[lusty turtle]

So a big part of it, and this has been the case since VT1 and is why quickplay exists to force you to not select maps, is people looking for the quickest way to farm matts with the highest reward per run

[frosty herald]

Dont mind that i got downed 2 minutes into a game

[fading vale]

I still have nightmares of that melee only mission

[obtuse stirrup]

Except the ones I see don't even pick up plasteel lmao

[lusty turtle]

grim can clear a auric dam monstrous maelstrom in sub 12 mins and get most if not all crafting matts in a map

[lusty turtle]

ye theres also a lot that do it to try and self inflate their ego

[fading vale]

wow not playing the game is so fun

[lusty turtle]

"you can thank me for speed running this map for you"

[fading vale]

like what are you playing for

[lusty turtle]

some people enjoy that, idk why, its why i think stealth should break on interacting with objectives

[royal vortex]

yea but the speedrun numbers i see are like 10-ish minutes and its like if u have a competent premade any mission is ~20 mins

[fading vale]

if they enjoy it they are just wrong

[boreal cedar]

the stealth perk ?

[royal vortex]

this game doesn't have frequent enough content updates to warrant that level of farm

[south folio]

at least i'm fine with it since player power level is overtuned
but once the balance gets sorted out, i will probably start to get pissed at them

[simple smelt]

As a stealth zealot, I roll my eyes HARD every time I matchmake with a random one. I just know what’s coming next

[lusty turtle]

stealth ability, both vet and zealot. i dont think you should be able to complete objectives while invisible

[south folio]

TWBS supremacy

[royal vortex]

an i-ii-v-e-g with not-idiots is 20 mins even if ur relatively uncoordinated

[boreal cedar]

honestly i just use it to onetap things and revive teammates

[lusty turtle]

i also want this to die aswell yes

[drowsy steppe]

'high level gameplay'

[royal vortex]

and thats like 83k ordos before curio buffs

[ornate bone]

I like doing objectives with stealth because it gives a "team" use to an ability many otherwise consider "selfish"

[south folio]

🥺

[boreal cedar]

been having fun with the 3 second stealth that increases damage

its probably mid but eh

[south folio]

you also probably shouldn't get toughness DR while holding the interrogator lamayo

[boreal cedar]

i dont care damage funny

[royal vortex]

then u just enlist a psyker to sit on u and spam pushes

[ornate bone]

It has versatility, which is something I value a lot in abilities

[south folio]

i can just tank a bunch of hits while doing the interrogator because of the stupid amount of DR you get

[lusty turtle]

i will kill this aswell

[obtuse stirrup]

more like 5 minutes

[south folio]

kill you

[obtuse stirrup]

because that's how long it takes me to get wiped out :)

[lusty turtle]

no one will stop me on my warpath of killing cringe 😤

[royal vortex]

the psyker 0.5s stam regen delay is entrenched

[ornate bone]

I will cemetery you

[fading vale]

if you kill TWBS then make stagger a not global thing for every fucking enemy

[south folio]

we do CARDIO

[lusty turtle]

sucks to suck, 1.0 stam delay 😤

[south folio]

kill

[fading vale]

oh wow I got hit by a poxwalker while trying to hammer a crusher fuck me I guess

[frosty herald]

"I will make the game less fun"

[royal vortex]

stagger as a mechanic for both players and enemies needs like

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-lightskin-agreement-gif-25487093

[royal vortex]

quite a bit of looking at

theres been quite a bit of damage tuning but nowhere near enough impact changes for how the game is

[ornate bone]

Deimos h2 preventing me from doing another h2 properly

[lusty turtle]

i think i was talking to someone about it needing to be a build up instead of binary on off, might have been you?

it'd be so much cooler if it was something that you could have resistance too in grades instead of it being something that either happens or it doesnt

[ornate bone]

Agri 7 HH being a burst slug shotgun

[little thicket]

I think refusing to speedrun is why many here even keep enjoying playing zealot.

[ornate bone]

I think stagger already works like that, doesn't it?

You hit shit enough, eventually it folds

[little thicket]

Its literary handicapping the zealot in one of its strongest assets as a class.

[fading vale]

HD2 kind of also has a similar problem but it's not that big of a deal, it's just simply an unfun thing

[ornate bone]

But I think the stagger clears itself after a set amount of time

[royal vortex]

hunters chain-staggering you out of stims even though its already in your neck

is just total bullshit

[fading vale]

player stagger isn't like this afaik

[south folio]

stuff like suppression being a very binary on/off thing

[lusty turtle]

it doesn't for players

for players if you get melee hit you are staggered, same for suppression

[ornate bone]

So you can't just spam knife lights on a crusher until it flops because from the first hit you dealth, there was already a recovery or somethign

[south folio]

and player stagger also interrupting you out of actions besidees your movement

[fading vale]

player suppression needs to be completely deleted

[ornate bone]

Oh, player stagger can get fucked

[south folio]

so if you're trying to swing and you take a ranged shot, boom you are no longer swinging

[royal vortex]

dodging/blocking exists to mitigate damage

but theres nothing for suppression

[ornate bone]

It's understandable for muh realism, but it's really annoying to be interrupted by any enemy in a horde game where your kill count reaches thousands

[fading vale]

oh hey 30 gunners shooting this way uh, cool

guess I can't aim half the weapons

[royal vortex]

the unfortunate world we live in is that gunners must do something

[ornate bone]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1h9tqKQ9lc96gH/d1337oWY3E5c?invite=cr-MSxxWFgsMTkwNTkwNTA4LA

[fading vale]

well the core issue is 30 gunners should not be the difficulty spike

[royal vortex]

yea

[fading vale]

and they should do damage

[royal vortex]

i dont mind gunners having the ability to kind of area deny

[fading vale]

skissue

[ornate bone]

Gunner suppression is interesting because that's kind of the point of the weapon

[royal vortex]

because a lot of maps have ways to get around the guy suppressing you because they have ratling gunner from VT2 ai

and will shoot walls n shit

instead of properly tracking you

[fading vale]

but also suppression just doesn't matter for a ton of the strongest things and it's just annoying for the others

[ornate bone]

But the game's horde nature giving you a shitload of enemies to fight against also needs the devs to analyze how the game works if it spawns too much of something

[royal vortex]

but there's nothing you can do to stop suppression or mitigate it, if you're suppressed you're just unable to hit stuff, etc

[royal vortex]

yea and this needs a lot of looking at

[boreal cedar]

is it really that bad

[ornate bone]

Suppressing enemies is kind of annoying

[royal vortex]

it's both visual sway and increased spread

so yeah

it is

but it's gun specific

[ornate bone]

I want people to not suppress the reaper because then the head is easier to hit

[fading vale]

go aim a bolter or lasgun when anything is shooting at you

[royal vortex]

u CANNOT try to snipe gunners that are actively firing at you with a bolter on zealot

[boreal cedar]

i mean i dont see it being a problematic

[royal vortex]

unless you fire at their feet to stagger/suppress them

and this is a huge ammo waste

[boreal cedar]

i cant phrase it properly

[ornate bone]

I quit the MG12 partially because I can't do any fucking thing when suppressed

[royal vortex]

certain weapons legitimately just get turned off by gunners

[fading vale]

you are also not playing auric damnation+ right

[boreal cedar]

havent tried it yet

i do play damnation exclusively tho

im gonna try it soon tho

[south folio]

i'm fine with the sway but the fact that suppression also adds spread to your ADS makes it so that you can't even counteract the suppression reliably

[ornate bone]

The MG12 getting entirely, 100% shut down by a single gunner is so fucking disgusting

[boreal cedar]

recently got all my classes to lvl 30

and im starting to have smth that looks like an actual build

[fading vale]

if you could counteract suppression then it would be tolerable

just something predictable

and not random bullshit

[south folio]

i have a similar gripe with the agri revolver having spread on the braced
should've been pinpoint accurate and then the inaccuracy moved into its recoil so that it becomes something that you can control

[boreal cedar]

maybe im not used to using proper aim weapons enough so i dont realise it

[fading vale]

people just don't use them cause it feels bad

and they aren't as strong as other options that don't have to deal with it

[boreal cedar]

the only weapons i use that requires proper aiming are the boltgun and the lasgun

[fading vale]

or you play vet and ignore suppression

[boreal cedar]

and i have suppression immunity on my lasgun

and i use knifes a lot

feels more comfy then pulling the slow ass bolter for 2 gunners or smth

[south folio]

the one thing i like about throwing knives is that it don't got any suppression

god bless

i chuck that shit at gunners all the time

[boreal cedar]

i like them cuz its instant

[fading vale]

agri revolver getting suppressed is a crime against humanity

[boreal cedar]

my only wish is that they wouldnt interrupt reloading

[south folio]

AUGH

[boreal cedar]

god id kill someone for that

bolter hammer and knife is such a nice combo of weapons

i love it

its so fun

you just see any kind of specialist ennemies you can just say no fuck off press the g key and instantly kill them

[fading vale]

I find bolter with hammer on aurics to just not cut it with the density

[south folio]

https://streamable.com/bjxrtv

[boreal cedar]

i like bolter since my personal fuck off button

if theres too much stuff i dont understand i pull it out and magdump

[royal vortex]

tknives mostly solves bolter's issue of being incapable of acting as a quick-swap "kill this guy" tool

[south folio]

bolter is my "fuck off bulwarks" weapon

i always run chastise so crushers wouldn't be an issue
but god I hate the game spawning patrols of >5 bulwarks

[boreal cedar]

bolter is really slow ya

[lusty turtle]

every time i watch an arco clip his ui degrades another step

this is awful

[boreal cedar]

i run stealth cuz almost onetapping bosses is fun

[south folio]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[south folio]

you degrade every time i see you

[lusty turtle]

ye cause i'm putting up with your bullshit 😤

[fading vale]

it's not like a bolter is gonna deal with a fuck ton of bulwarks and melee elites when you have a hammer so I have a hard time not taking fire nades

[south folio]

you're going to make a good lasagna

[lusty turtle]

mooooooods

[royal vortex]

i dont take immo nades out of the principle that playing with an infinite cleave kill everything button is actively making the game less enjoyable

[boreal cedar]

knifes are so fun to use tho

[south folio]

i hate the nodes above immo nades so i don't take it

[boreal cedar]

and i love that they replenish on melee kill and ammo

[royal vortex]

i think the biggest buff the bolter needs is a bulwark stagger animation rework

[south folio]

and for some reason the weapons i enjoy on zealot favor crit builds so i always go top-right anyways

[royal vortex]

it is genuinely unacceptable that shooting bulwarks at the wrong angle makes them unable to be hit

[boreal cedar]

i dont like using nades most of the time so i can leave nade boxes to ppl who actually like them

[royal vortex]

because the stagger animation raises the shield to cover their entire side

[fading vale]

I'd consider the first 2 nodes to be universally goated

[south folio]

oh yeah anoint is so nice

[royal vortex]

the infested/unyielding damage is super meh

[fading vale]

like I'm never not taking anoint

[royal vortex]

anoint is mandatory pmuch

[south folio]

to me, second wind alone is worth the 4 point investment

[boreal cedar]

i run it cuz its fun dealing 80% of a boss hp in a single swing

i need to minmax a bit more to reach 100% tho

[fading vale]

second wind is probably a bit too good

relatively

[south folio]

yeah it's 15% and on a 0.5s icd

it reaaalllly should not be 15%

[boreal cedar]

whats second wind again

[royal vortex]

the middle tree needs actual toughness regen options that arent just laughable

[south folio]

+15% toughness on dodge

it's so good for bosses and ranged patrrols

[royal vortex]

i want them to swap voice of terra and vicious offering

[boreal cedar]

i fail to realise how much i dodge tbh

[south folio]

scenarios where you might typically have problems with toughness regen

[boreal cedar]

its hard to tell

[south folio]

second wind fills in that gap and some more

should be killed down to 7.5% or 5%

[royal vortex]

its less good than u would think for ranged enemies a lot of the time because on-dodge stuff mostly doesnt work on gunners

[fading vale]

also if we are talking relative power then uh, duelist

[royal vortex]

since shooters are an endangered species

[boreal cedar]

does dodging via running ranged attacks count

[south folio]

yeah for pure gunners it's useless, though usually other enemies are around and the team is sniping the elites first

[fading vale]

no

dodging is dodging

[south folio]

i forgor
but sliding counts

[royal vortex]

at some point its like u just gotta keep the Fun™️ nodes around

[boreal cedar]

does sliding has a cooldown

like Dodges

[south folio]

as fast as the animation lets you

[royal vortex]

it should be finesse

[south folio]

oh, sliding has no falloff

[royal vortex]

instead of both crit and weakspot damage

[fading vale]

sliding is dodging more or less

[south folio]

only thing that sliding does is stop your stamina regen and prevents your dodge count from refreshing
but your slides will always be the same

[lusty turtle]

tbf, finesse is the same thing

[fading vale]

dodge slides takes 2 dodges

[fading vale]

it's not though

duelist is special

[royal vortex]

duellist is individual crit/weakspot damage

[fading vale]

you get 100% increase on a crit weakspot

[royal vortex]

so its 100% crit/weakspot

[south folio]

just that +50% weakspot and +50% crit means +100% crit weakspot damage
and +50% finesse results in +50% crit weakspot damage

should probably just be +50% weakspot damage though

rather than including crit

[fading vale]

yeah skelly get wrecked by facts and logic

🙂

[royal vortex]

which means u should run duellist deadly accurate headhunter

190% crit/weakspot

[coarse birch]

Balanced

[royal vortex]

does it cap at 90% or 100% for deadly accurate

i do not remember

[south folio]

duellist applying to ranged certainly does lead to interesting things

100%

[coarse birch]

I think its

11

Bruh

100

[south folio]

bruh

smh smh

[fading vale]

I'm kind of concerned we haven't seen stan appear this morning

[coarse birch]

Arco do you want to play in like 15 minutes

Yeah no stan

Odd

Is he ok

[south folio]

nah is too late/early for me

[coarse birch]

Sadge

[lusty turtle]

damn, 11%?

[coarse birch]

Yeah a whole 11%

[lusty turtle]

wild, we should nerf that

[coarse birch]

Yeah kinda op

[drifting wolf]

the microwaved ice cream mutated from the radiation of the microwave and became sentient

[drowsy steppe]

are you throwing knives or are you throwing hitboxes with that Graphics

[south folio]

shlerp

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/rduvk0

[coarse birch]

Shlerp

[royal vortex]

anyways

consider this

[south folio]

mittins being a menace once again

[drowsy steppe]

the sound of defeat coming out of that

[royal vortex]

dude bird said "watch out im clearing the way" and then threw an impact nade next to my mech with 0 wait time

as if i can make it move that quickly

british people fucking HATE me

[lusty turtle]

yes

[south folio]

what a coincidence

[polar nexus]

after trying to make ms bolter work for me i had better results with this

turns out target down is enough to compensate deadshot

[drowsy steppe]

woohoo survivalist

[royal vortex]

its stupid

i got p mad when i figured out its easier to just run focus target for the stam regen because marksman's focus has none

i do this because i principally refuse to run shout

[frosty herald]

josho

imma hit you with an orbital railcannon

[royal vortex]

that would be exceptionally difficult because of how the targeting works

[frosty herald]

it will somehow work

[coarse birch]

im not british

[royal vortex]

wtf

[coarse birch]

:)

[royal vortex]

ur the worst

[coarse birch]

i am sorry josho

i simply saw an opportunity

[polar nexus]

ahahah, yeah pretty much, i was only remembering the gain tg back part... imagine my surprise when i realized it was stam too

[royal vortex]

the rending node on marksman should be like 10%-ish stam gain on headshot

[polar nexus]

stun immunity is right next to it... i could certaintly not take it tbh, most of the time it's for the team not me

[formal umbra]

People who don't run survivalist smell bad

[coarse birch]

ill still run MF just cause i prefer it so much more

but yeah no stam regen is wack

[formal umbra]

Just dodge with that one node

Uhhh

Duck and dive

[lusty turtle]

ye thats what i run

[royal vortex]

duck n dive unfortunately just isnt nearly as consistent

[lusty turtle]

but also ew survivalist

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/2g0yqv

u just have infinite stam

[formal umbra]

STINKY

[stable cypress]

Everybody smells bad its wh40k

[coarse birch]

your gonna be binding your ping to m1 soon

[royal vortex]

i considered binding it to rmb

[frosty herald]

cant let these gunners break my mewing streak

[ember yew]

survivalist abuse

[frosty herald]

i was playing melee flak a couple of months ago

[polar nexus]

that's what i did

and it works really well with focus + deadshot/surgical

[frosty herald]

and someone had the gall to ask me why i didnt run survivalist on vet

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-heresy-that-is-heresy-thats-hairesy-dr-squatch-thats-heresy-dr-squatch-heresy-gif-17639789

vet has only one aura

and that is survivalist

[polar nexus]

it's field improv

😄

[formal umbra]

Yeah I only joke about not running survivalist

[frosty herald]

instructions unclear took damage

[polar nexus]

i wish i could take it all the time

[formal umbra]

Field improv is mandatory and I stand by that

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

[royal vortex]

i tell people im running field improv when im not just to keep them on their toes

[frosty herald]

field improv is goated

[royal vortex]

he has risen.

[hushed knoll]

Hi Josho

Hello poor

Doors

[royal vortex]

poor

lmao

hi stan

[polar nexus]

well it depends on the build, i run it most of the time, but whith the bolter you need to invest a bit

lmao

Hi Stan

[stone fern]

how else am i supposed to do my weeklies in 1 hour?

[frosty herald]

🤫 🧏‍♂️ bye bye!

https://tenor.com/view/giga-gigacat-cat-mewing-mogging-gif-12429734670640119345

[lusty turtle]

blow up

[stone fern]

no deaths 😠

[royal vortex]

i pay an indian man to log on and do my weeklies for me

its called DELEGATION

[hushed knoll]

HI SKELLY

NOTICES YOU

[frosty herald]

real asf

[hushed knoll]

What

[royal vortex]

is something unclear

💅

[lusty turtle]

hang on getting josho account banned

[royal vortex]

wtf...

[stone fern]

but seriously they need a solo mode

[hushed knoll]

You can’t say “is something unclear” and then proceed to paint your nails

[royal vortex]

i just did sweetie

[hushed knoll]

Never call me sweat again

Sweetie

[coarse birch]

that made even me uncomfortable

[safe tusk]

Sweaty Stan

[royal vortex]

i will refrain from calling you sweat in the future

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[hushed knoll]

Hi Vanessa

Hi Schwur socks

Scent

[safe tusk]

Hi Sweat

[coarse birch]

josho calling someone sweetie is simply cursed

[royal vortex]

schwur

[coarse birch]

welp

[frosty herald]

SCHWUR SOCKS???

[coarse birch]

lmfao

[royal vortex]

it is completely natural 🙂

[hushed knoll]

German autocorrect lol

[coarse birch]

stan you can call me yoshi in here still you know

[lusty turtle]

schwur means oath aparently

thats just weird

[hushed knoll]

It does

[coarse birch]

does that mean i have to change my name

or is this acceptable

[north sedge]

oath socks

[royal vortex]

ur stuck as schwur socks

[hushed knoll]

You are lusigo

Lydia

[royal vortex]

oh

my

GO

[coarse birch]

bruh

[hushed knoll]

God dammit

[royal vortex]

D

NO

[hushed knoll]

Luigi

[royal vortex]

STAN

[north sedge]

lusigo lydia

[coarse birch]

ive been fucking

assualted

violated

killed in cold blood

[stone fern]

@cunning mango I HOPE YOU GET A VIRUS

[frozen glen]

skyrim companion

[coarse birch]

welp stan didnt rename for like a month

it was simply time

wait why did socks go away

[lusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-my-time-has-come-gif-8019684

[hushed knoll]

I am having an early salt sucking session

Pretzels

[lusty turtle]

character limit

[coarse birch]

dont you usually do it early

[hushed knoll]

Depends on the fat

Day

Jfc

[lusty turtle]

cause he also called you luigi

[coarse birch]

GUCK

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/lydia-skyrim-lydia-avavago-lydia-now-lydia-ate-dat-gif-26715406

[coarse birch]

luigi is a normal name for me

from stan

[royal vortex]

FAT FAT FAT FAT

GAY

[coarse birch]

i dont count it as a mis name

[hushed knoll]

You can’t just say gay

[royal vortex]

i have the pass

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[south folio]

guck guck guck

[coarse birch]

this is such a good screenshot

[north sedge]

he said guck in vc the other day

[royal vortex]

no he said huck

[coarse birch]

i do remember that

it was a VC typo

[hushed knoll]

Why are you slandering me

[fading vale]

Hi stan

I was worried that you hadn't appeared this morning

[hushed knoll]

HI SIR FRAT

FRY

[coarse birch]

damn

stan on a rampage

[hushed knoll]

Why

[coarse birch]

usually you do

we were worried something happened

[fading vale]

cause you always say something early

[hushed knoll]

I was busy this morning

[coarse birch]

you were

[fading vale]

bussy

[coarse birch]

you were what

[south folio]

he was bussy

[hushed knoll]

B U S Y

[coarse birch]

stan really did find his inner bussy

[south folio]

i think you're missing an S

[coarse birch]

after all this time

[hushed knoll]

Sometimes the people who are the earliest do not find the inner machinations of true celestial peace

How come my phone can type that but not gay

[fading vale]

https://tenor.com/view/wise-gif-20206877

[coarse birch]

cause you hit the keys in the right order

[royal vortex]

odder.

[hushed knoll]

I’ve heard kids pronounce that as con fucky us

[coarse birch]

yeah yeah

[hushed knoll]

Cringe

[royal vortex]

con foo sus

[coarse birch]

con fucky us

[royal vortex]

i love this one

so much

its up there with this is why inches are easier

[north sedge]

lol

[coarse birch]

i used to shit the bed is also up there for me

[fading vale]

wow sporecloak recipe

[coarse birch]

in boys holds a special place in my heart but only because i listened to josho laugh about it for 5 minutes live

[fading vale]

veranda blend

[hushed knoll]

STOP I BEAVER SHIT THE BED

NEVER

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/1x6uij this was pretty great

stop i beaver shit the bed

[hushed knoll]

DOUHI NO

[fading vale]

DOUHI

[hushed knoll]

DIUGJ

DOUGH

[royal vortex]

lmao

[coarse birch]

stan we have families

[fading vale]

hey stan how do you feel about papa John's

[lusty turtle]

not again

[hushed knoll]

Onions is better

Onions

Dominoes

[hushed knoll]

Papa John is racist

[north sedge]

onions is better than papa john's, i agree

[royal vortex]

i think papa johns is fkin awful

[fading vale]

I feel like I get domino's more often but I crave papa John's sometimes

[coarse birch]

i think ive had papa johns once

[hushed knoll]

Daddy John

[coarse birch]

i dont think its around here

[royal vortex]

but i like hate pizza in general

NO

[coarse birch]

tf

[hushed agate]

What

[fading vale]

what

[hushed knoll]

Josho how t frat you study hatte oeizz a

Jesus

[coarse birch]

wow

[hushed knoll]

How the fuck do you hate pizza*

[royal vortex]

my little brother is low functioning autistic and i have had to clean up too many ungodly messes involving pizza

[hushed agate]

Are you okay?

[north sedge]

haha

[drowsy steppe]

hatteo oeizz

[hushed knoll]

Try it with ranch

[royal vortex]

i could go the rest of my lifetime without ever thinking about that food

[north sedge]

what

[fading vale]

STAN

[hushed knoll]

What???

[coarse birch]

do not try it with ranch

[hushed knoll]

Ranch is normal for Paige’s

Pizza

[royal vortex]

so you do realize what i just said is that i have an association with the food that is unrelated to the actual taste

right

[coarse birch]

i do not understand the ranch and pizza thing

[fading vale]

that is not the correct message to reply to

[royal vortex]

you can read what i am saying

[violet hornet]

Ranch is great for cleaning?

[royal vortex]

right?

[south folio]

rizza

[drowsy steppe]

no one does

[royal vortex]

you have eyes?

presumably?

[hushed knoll]

I do

[coarse birch]

itll process in 10 minutes

[royal vortex]

if you said "no" i wouldve believed you

[hushed knoll]

This is racist against Asians wtf

[south folio]

i'm sure ur brother will taste nice with ranch

[hushed knoll]

Wait nvm

[coarse birch]

🤨

[south folio]

wh

[coarse birch]

wait stan

what

[hushed knoll]

Just forget I said anything

[fading vale]

stan you need to take a break from chat

[hushed knoll]

I messed up

[coarse birch]

what did you think he said

[lusty turtle]

stan

think before you type please

for like, atleast a few seconds

[hushed knoll]

Skillset I’m sorry

[north sedge]

no, it's funnier this way

[royal vortex]

skillset

[north sedge]

lol

[south folio]

you can't tell a fish to climb a tree

[coarse birch]

jesus stan

[hushed knoll]

Skelly

[fading vale]

Skillset

[coarse birch]

stan is just obliterating zealot chat

[hushed knoll]

Why not

[coarse birch]

not reading, misnaming everyone, racist comments

[placid fiber]

Huh for some reason I was talking in the Psyker chat and I didn't even know it lol

[hushed knoll]

I DIDN’T MAKE A RAISIN COMMENT JFC

RACIST

Arco was the one that made a comet

Comment

[placid fiber]

I started a new playthrough of Doom 2016, since it has been like... a year or so since I last played it. :3

[hushed agate]

Bro just edit your messages

[fading vale]

what was that movie with raisin characters

[hushed knoll]

Grapes of weary

Wrath

[coarse birch]

that sounds made up

[placid fiber]

No, no... you had it right the first time....