#zealot-class

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calm salmon
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so its not terribly useful

atomic lintel
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most big things I shoot take more than that

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like ogryns and such

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not sure about maulers but probably around 4-5

calm salmon
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that's where Fury of the Faithful/Wrath of the Righteous, Surgical, and Pinning Fire come in.

north sedge
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ideally you'd have calvacade/pinning fire, but surgical works for sniping

calm salmon
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All of them together work to bring bolter breakpoints into a solid and acceptable status.

atomic lintel
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but I can't snipe for shit with these sights though

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skill issue I guess

upbeat imp
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is there a zaelot weapon tier list

calm salmon
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But yeah, the ideal combo is Maniac/Anything/PF/Cavalcade on zealot

upbeat imp
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or something like that

atomic lintel
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I have the same problem for most iron sights to be honest

calm salmon
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that's literally all you need to know

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that's S++++++++++++++++++++++ tier

ember yew
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does weapon mod works on bolter ADS?

calm salmon
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everything else is like lumped together in A tier

ember yew
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if yes, you can use that

upbeat imp
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kay

atomic lintel
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what's that

ember yew
calm salmon
burnt granite
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weapon customization mod allows you to change how weapons look

calm salmon
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including adding holosights to guns

atomic lintel
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oh

calm salmon
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if you're on xbox

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I am sorry

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I truly am

atomic lintel
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that sounds like cheating a lil' bit ๐Ÿค”

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nah I

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'm on PC

calm salmon
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welcome to the club

frosty herald
calm salmon
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its pretty close

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but fuckin whatever

frosty herald
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on my vet i magdump bolter and hit like 3 things

calm salmon
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ironsights are dogshit

frosty herald
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its all about having fun

calm salmon
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that's fatshark's fault

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not ours

atomic lintel
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true I guess

ember yew
ember yew
atomic lintel
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but it wouldn't be fair to every other schmuck suffering with the default sights

ember yew
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better ADS = more fun

north sedge
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they are fine with modding

calm salmon
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at the end of the day it doesn't matter cause fatshark is cool with it

atomic lintel
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I guess I'll put that down as plan B

calm salmon
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they're aware of the mod and mods

frosty herald
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even fatshark devs use the customization mod so dont feel bad about it

calm salmon
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and kill ones that they think are outright cheating

ember yew
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must suffer

calm salmon
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while other mods get to stay up

ember yew
atomic lintel
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fair enough

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wish they'd just make better sights themselves then

frosty herald
upbeat imp
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no idea how they havent implemented weapon modding ingame yet

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like being able to craft your own sights and shit

burnt granite
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fatshark propably arent gonna make weapon customization a thing simply because the mod works just as well

frosty herald
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btw macros arent banned for just basic attacking

calm salmon
atomic lintel
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how

calm salmon
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They're VERY particular about the image of their setting.

frosty herald
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its the reason why the shirtless cosmetic was removed

atomic lintel
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there's no default sight on bolters lol

calm salmon
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So everything needs to go through them first to be okayed.

atomic lintel
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there's like

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fifteen different patterns

calm salmon
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Don't worry Death, there's also a whole ass rulebook to customize your weapons in the Warhammer 40k TTRPG

solar gorge
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yeah but have you ever seen a GW sanctioned Holo sight for a bolter

atomic lintel
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and the actual minis they make bolters are so tiny I'm pretty sure they don't have sights anyway

calm salmon
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But "Its not cod"

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now that's an old callback

solar gorge
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be glad they allowed it for the lasgun

calm salmon
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oh Hedge

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Why u do dat

frosty herald
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i do agree that we need some more weapon patterns for diversity

atomic lintel
frosty herald
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and to get a better feel on how to balance weapons

calm salmon
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Its so detailed it goes into attachment WEIGHT

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attachment WEEEEEEIIIIIIGHT

atomic lintel
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IK

upbeat imp
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what would be the second blessing though headtaker or something else

calm salmon
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But naw, "its not cod"

solar gorge
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p sure dt is based on dark heresy aswell

atomic lintel
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I read the whole DH 2e rulebook once

calm salmon
atomic lintel
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never got anyone to play with

calm salmon
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Flak/Unarmored/Headtaker/Brutal Momentum

atomic lintel
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but I read the book

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๐Ÿฅฒ

calm salmon
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is the ideal rashad

frosty herald
upbeat imp
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good that i already got all of those on rank 4 from my vet lol

frosty herald
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there are a lot of dark heresy designs

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darktide also takes place during the plague wars

solar gorge
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just the archetype and classes

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they're all in dark heresy

fleet zealot
atomic lintel
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how much ranking on base stats should I be looking for on weapons in general?

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like obviously the higher the better but

frosty herald
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between the 320 and 380 range

solar gorge
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should be looking for the dump stat

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it makes it easier to find a good roll

calm salmon
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70-80% in everything that affects damage

ember yew
atomic lintel
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so it's ok to try 330-350 weps if they have good rolls on perks then

calm salmon
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mobility, defences are the go-to dump stats

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defences can be 0% for all it matters

ember yew
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dump stats - mobility (some weps need 50), defense, etc

calm salmon
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and mobility has BPs on everything up to around ~54%

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anything past that doesn't matter except sprint speed

atomic lintel
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nice

calm salmon
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which varies on weapon for how useful it is

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some weapons you can comfortably dump stability

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infantry lasguns

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recon lasguns

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ogryn rippers

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what else

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Someone will fill in others I'm sure

fleet zealot
ember yew
atomic lintel
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alrighty thank you

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it's surprisingly hard to find decent resources for the game

fleet zealot
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and collateral is not a dps boost for ranged weapons, you generally only want collateral around 60% because it is literally just stagger and it makes you miss your shots. you just want enough to stagger bulwarks

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not that anyone said otherwise

calm salmon
fleet zealot
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i'm just dropping it

atomic lintel
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especially since everything older than 3 months(?) seems to be outdated

calm salmon
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and then word of mouth for the other classes

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there's just

fleet zealot
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games lantern, at least the objective factual stuff is usually up to date

calm salmon
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a lot going on with this game

fleet zealot
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the builds however

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suck

calm salmon
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so its really hard to get accurate and useful information for wide sweeping questions

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like "how win gudder"

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or whatever

ember yew
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because 95% of those are utter sht

fleet zealot
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yea this chat eats shit build guides for breakfast it's fun

solar gorge
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no you see

fleet zealot
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you see the darndest things

calm salmon
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Don't ever ask me about zealot tree builds

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everyone will strangle me

solar gorge
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the best zealot weapon is the knife with double bleed blessings

calm salmon
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because of my answer

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(Skip TWBS)

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(TWBS = Thy Wrath Be Swift)

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(Skip it)

atomic lintel
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yeah I'm not falling for those lol

fleet zealot
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unless you are running chain weapons or thunderhammer

calm salmon
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Yes

fleet zealot
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both those IMO need twbs

calm salmon
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I actually only use it on Thunder Hammer

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eviscerator it doesn't really matter at the end of the day

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I'm rarely chainsawing things

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but TH is 100% TWBS no matter what

ember yew
frosty herald
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insane

frosty herald
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i have my 350 health holy revenant twbs build so i can safely use mk15 evis inside of hordes

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im surprisingly tanky

fleet zealot
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may the emperor have mercy on your soul

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like, I could see someone use the mk12 without twbs, but the mk4? that's just self harm

misty nova
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Another trial

calm salmon
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I only light attack with the mk4 chainsword

fast scroll
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Am I cooking with gas or is it ass?

ember yew
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i will continue to do so

calm salmon
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respec +1

ember yew
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but i probably shouldnt charge into 20 gunners

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without twbs

patent patrol
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What curios do y'all run on a crit build? Also is Gunner resistance still basically required? I'm gonna assume so? Considering that's what I was told for my martyrdom stuff?

calm salmon
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no no

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we're zealots

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CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE

sharp oyster
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Salvageable or not

calm salmon
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change point blank to surgical

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change critical hit damage to maniac

solar gorge
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you need to keep the stereotype alive to make redditors mald, charge in, die and blame your teammates

sharp oyster
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I need the blessing first so, perks first I guess

ember yew
sharp oyster
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Maniac you say

calm salmon
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one shot on ragers

maiden path
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who up poking tobi kadachi

calm salmon
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thanks to hand cannon and surgical

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and maniac perk

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more reliable oneshots on trappers and flamers

calm salmon
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mix with throwing knives for maximum "fuck specials" utility kit

fast scroll
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No one saw my revolver post Sitgryn

patent patrol
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got it.

solar gorge
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the problem when i play zealot is that i'm addicted to the crusher so i don't get to play anything else

safe tusk
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Crusher life

formal umbra
placid fiber
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I am playing more Descent in Division 2... and it is a travesty, a crime against humanity... The game completely refuses to feed my Unhinged addiction...

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

placid fiber
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I could have level 5 unhinged by now, but, it barely even gave me level 2 after I struggled to try to get it... x.x

fast scroll
wind pier
zinc talon
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Idk looks fine to me

wind pier
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can we be friends

hushed agate
formal umbra
wind pier
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implying wha

formal umbra
wind pier
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i don't get it

formal umbra
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I misread

wind pier
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๐Ÿ™‚

formal umbra
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but anyways

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how about that crusher

wind pier
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bad

formal umbra
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:(

wind pier
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^^

formal umbra
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yes we can be friends

wind pier
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add me loaf

zinc talon
wind pier
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๐Ÿ™‚

zinc talon
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Okay my turn

wind pier
zinc talon
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So I come in from the jog and go to shower off

formal umbra
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it was just int womens day so hadron didnt brick my curio

zinc talon
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And before I can even get back to my clothes

formal umbra
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LOL

sharp zodiac
solar gorge
placid fiber
zinc talon
placid fiber
zinc talon
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Just laugh at my jokes and tell meimply that I'm handsome

sharp zodiac
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Dan Vs

zinc talon
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I'm yours forever

fast scroll
formal umbra
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okri I appreciate your prescence even if I dont talk as much here as I should

sharp zodiac
# fast scroll stats?

Pen could be higher but over 65 is good enough, perk is good but the blessing is ass

fleet zealot
fast scroll
zinc talon
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I just went through my gif favs to find a thank you and realized practically all of them are making judy faces in some context or another

fair igloo
ember yew
sharp zodiac
# fast scroll whats wrong with the blessing?

Sustained fire is pretty bad, with revolver you're not wanting to rely on the 3rd or 4th shot, you typically want the enemy dead in one or two if possible, so hc and surgi are the way to go for Crit and piercing armour

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%

zinc talon
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nothing needs anything

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the deadliest weapon you can bring to the fight

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is yourself

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you're better than you think you are taykum mayse hiddum fayse

formal umbra
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I skip TWBS on shroudfield but otherwise I take it

fair igloo
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Remember. Your weapons aren't the one to kill people. YOU are >:)

zinc talon
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well not me

sharp zodiac
frosty herald
fair igloo
sharp zodiac
zinc talon
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my skill points in the being damn near impossible to kill tree did not exactly translate to hilldiers

fair igloo
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also this is the zealot build i run and i'm wondering if I should drop something for faithful frenzy

sharp zodiac
fair igloo
sharp zodiac
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Funny face penalty

fair igloo
ember yew
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or fire grenade and get knifes (thus save points)

fair igloo
zinc talon
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another crusher enthusiast

fair igloo
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it's been serving me welkl but i've been wondering if i sohuld drop anything for TWBS and faithful frenzy

zinc talon
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there are tens of tens of us

fair igloo
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Crusher is just sooo good we can't let more ppl know about it

patent patrol
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But I'll go all toughness at some point.

fair igloo
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i just run 2 toughness and 1 hp cuz i'm basic

ember yew
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sadly crit eats a lot of points

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due to duelist and +2 nodes

fair igloo
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do i haaave to take blades of faith tho?

ember yew
fair igloo
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i heard fire grenades apply stuff like hammerblow and skullcrusher so that's mainly why i take them

ember yew
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if it works with them, then yeah, you cant really do anything there

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its either duelist then or 2nd chastice stack and both are kinda meh decision, crusher isnt the fastest wep for cdr farming

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and duelist last 3 secs, which is fine, unlike darn precog (2 secs)

safe tusk
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It's annoying that the crit stuff starts on the right side

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Or perhaps that Piety is on the left side instead of the right side

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It feels like it should be swapped with momentum

zinc talon
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Any fire will

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I'm having a lot of fun relearning flamer as a puff puff suppression charge tool more than opened up for the whole tank of fuel

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It just shuts down everything and just one puff on one thing will keep your buffs up as long as it's alive

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It staggers everything without metal on its face too

fast scroll
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also is this fixable?

fading vale
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you don't want any of those perks or blessings

fast scroll
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I thought the armor was fine?

zinc talon
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I dont use revolvers myself

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So as the resident expert,

fading vale
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perks are flak maniac, carapace is semi acceptable I suppose but eh

fast scroll
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So crit chance and the blessings are bad?

fading vale
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yeah

zinc talon
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Yknow what yeah its unsaveable sell it and use that money to get a flamer

fading vale
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all you really want on zarona is surgical and hand cannon

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they are far and away better than anything else you could put on it

royal vortex
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but laz, have u considered the surgical speedload agri revolver build

fading vale
fast scroll
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What does handcannon do?

zinc talon
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since you yes you asked, are some tips and tricks in the next couple scrolls to help you, yes you, get lernt

maiden path
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mhw fans

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lance or hamer

zinc talon
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use your words

frosty herald
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and trust me

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try out powered up hammer tier 2 charge back to back

maiden path
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hmm

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but lance

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block...

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hmmmmm

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ok boss

stone fern
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pls dont say the f word around me

fading vale
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and surgical means you get crit on demand

placid fiber
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What do you think, Lazorr... am I going to bit a ditz and walk into the zap floor, like I sometimes do? x.x

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Sometimes it's kind of hard to see where the eletric wires are... and sometimes they have them placed a bit sneakily :/

maiden path
placid fiber
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Like look at how easy it is to step from the safe area straight to the get omega zapped area, in this stupid area of the arena... @fading vale

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the yellow boxed areas are safe, but, the red gets you zapped and you lose all of your armor, and are a sitting duck for the enemies to blast you

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Usually then the sniper guys decide to aim and shoot at you, when you get zapped x.x

patent patrol
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So this is like a crit build thing right?

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I'm gonna replace wrath with rampage soon

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just don't have lots of blessings for this specific weapon

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I just put Wrath on cause it is pretty good just overall. At least until I GET rampage to slap on it

hard moon
fast scroll
polar nexus
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You want pinning fire instead of cavalcade

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Crits DMG on the AP is not meaningful

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And flak instead of Crit chance

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@hard moon

polar nexus
median steeple
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finally

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darktide on an SSD

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im free

zinc talon
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well guys

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salvagable, or

fading vale
zinc talon
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how does one even minmax one of these, I haven't used a knife since idk

hard moon
frosty herald
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My og build was crit hammer with lots of defense

gray ice
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Best way to minmax knife is by holding x on it in inventory

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It's a secret consecrate method

gray ice
# zinc talon

In all honesty could roll it to blue and see what blessing you get

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And base rolling further off that

zinc talon
gray ice
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Hobo genderbent Heihachi

maiden path
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cant trust u

zinc talon
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can anybody really trust anybody

frosty herald
zinc talon
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can anybody really trust

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can anybody

lusty turtle
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you can tell its fake because it has crit chance on it

fresh sentinel
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okay i have to ask what is the crazy knife i see a lot of people using on zealot

polar nexus
fast scroll
zinc talon
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pure as the driven snow

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untouched by hadron

zinc talon
mint imp
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hey max health

mint imp
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the rest is free

gray ice
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๐Ÿ‡ซ

zinc talon
gray ice
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He may never financially recover from this

zinc talon
burnt bobcat
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What are the main zealot playstyles right now?

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And what they do

zinc talon
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well there's certainly the crusher afficionado

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and sadly everything else

burnt bobcat
steep hound
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I haven't used Heavy Sword yet, what do y'all think?

mint imp
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theres unga, bunga, and gabagool

zinc talon
frosty herald
maiden path
frosty herald
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trust me youll like it

zinc talon
frosty herald
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lance is just dreadfully boring (full offence)

maiden path
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i want its block

polar nexus
maiden path
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i am not good at dodging monsters and I do not enjoy taking half my health from one attack

burnt bobcat
hard moon
zinc talon
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you can be three hits from killing anything, most in 2, smols in 1

polar nexus
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Go flak maniac

frosty herald
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Just get evade extender 2

maiden path
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dont have any armor so far

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that gives that

steep hound
burnt bobcat
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so what im getting is theres only one true way to play zealot

maiden path
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and I dont wanna drop defense iv charm

polar nexus
frosty herald
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Melding time

polar nexus
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It's that much better at the Crit game

frosty herald
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Or gem farming time

polar nexus
frosty herald
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Just farm tempered lavasioth event quest

maiden path
burnt bobcat
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okay tell you what,
what loadouts are yall using? and talents

maiden path
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feeling confident about it

steep hound
frosty herald
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Your in MR right?

maiden path
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going for stun power for the little hits I get in

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yuh!

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not finshed

frosty herald
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Cause thats a very low ammount of skills

maiden path
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i just beat explosive guy

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what!!

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i have no decorations

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on

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gimme a second pal..........

frosty herald
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I suggest getting only beta sets cause they have more slots

maiden path
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i need da slugger on alpha sets.......

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on diablos set atleast

frosty herald
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Just get 2 skill decorations

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Like slugger divine blessing

maiden path
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ive got plently of level 4 decoration slots

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ill b fine

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wait wtf

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what does purple mean

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on lvl 4 and 5

frosty herald
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You unlocked the skill cap because of the set bonus

burnt bobcat
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What primary team roles are there to be filled?

maiden path
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oh

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wtf

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this decoration stuff hurts my head

maiden path
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WAOH

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I ONLY HAVE LEVEL 1 DEFENSE CHARM

zinc talon
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so I'm really enjoying the crusher and the flamer as a puff puff suppression and stagger hall and bridge clearer

frosty herald
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I use a speed eating charm

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Speed eating will save you

maiden path
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wait so my slugger is level 5

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if I add a ko jewel it doesnt go up?

frosty herald
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Nope

maiden path
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ok so i need defense boost then

frosty herald
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It added 2 levels because the diablo bonus is slugger secret

maiden path
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i have a recovery jewel 4

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for speed eating

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wait no

burnt bobcat
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So thats crusher

maiden path
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whats affinity

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i forgot

frosty herald
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Crit chance

maiden path
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i have an expert jewel+4 should I add that

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just for the sake of it

junior vortex
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Chastise with Eviscerator is beautiful

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I like running past mutants and cutting them in two with it.

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It's so satisfying

junior vortex
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Eviscerator is still my baby

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I love that weapon

fair igloo
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I was actually going to try out the eviscerator before i got recommended crusher! I still want to try it and heavy sword out

junior vortex
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Eviscerator is what I use in auric and tier 5

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And it holds up so well

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Boltgun and Eviscerator

fair igloo
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I use revo and crusher! super fun and encourages using mainly ur melee cuz of how fast revo's switch speed is

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so i just run around and hit things and if something i need to kill NOW spawns i can just pull it out in like half a second and it's dead

zinc talon
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bolter still is the highschool sweetheart, it's great for armor leet delete mag dumps and ranged specialist delete

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prolly only thing I'd take to a sniper gauntlet

fair igloo
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I've wanted to try out bolter too! but revo is just really satisfying and i like the wep switch speed even if it has a suuuuper slow reload

zinc talon
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it's a revolver that's laser beam accurate at any range with three times the ammo capacity and three times the reload

maiden path
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@frosty herald ok what about now

junior vortex
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Just use chastise and boltgun goes crazy

frosty herald
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i should beat your ass for using crit draw on hammer

maiden path
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its not on my decorations!!!

frosty herald
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replace it with crit boost

maiden path
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its from diablos set

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or something

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i checked why tf its there too

frosty herald
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but yeah this is a nice early MR set

maiden path
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grahhh

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im fucking invinsible!!!

fleet zealot
maiden path
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once i get real decorations

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and real armor

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ill be good

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dis will tide me over

frosty herald
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i basically always have speed eating and health boost on

maiden path
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the only times ive ever tried to make a build and both times its been for hammer

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i dont have a single speed eating decoration

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or a defense 4

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i only have a single defense 1 charm

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WTF I CAN CHANGE MY HAIR FOR FREE

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I THOUGHT I HAD TO USE ONE OF THOSE CHARACTER TOKENS

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no more griffith hair

frosty herald
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you can also have the no helmet option on in the menu

maiden path
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i do not have the space dandy pompador

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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nvm i do

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fuck yea

fair igloo
maiden path
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ho

frosty herald
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20%

maiden path
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how do i check

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oh

frosty herald
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its under your attack stat

maiden path
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yea

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attack is 1280

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affinity 20

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no elemnt

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i need a new hammer

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gonna get deviljho one

frosty herald
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did you know you can get negative crits

fair igloo
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NO weakness exploit ๐Ÿ’”

frosty herald
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that deal less damage

maiden path
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devils crush

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wtf

maiden path
frosty herald
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yup

maiden path
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is devils crush good to use

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looks cool

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and does fine damag

frosty herald
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if you have - affinity on a weapon it will give you less damage when you crit

fair igloo
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that's funny

elfin steppe
stone fern
burnt bobcat
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I want to provide buffs and do big single target damage, how should I build with talents and weapons?

stone fern
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auric right?

frosty herald
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royal cross mace and pandemonium unleashed my beloved

elfin steppe
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shotgunners are much easier to deal with.

stone fern
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didnt they say they removed the push

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why the hell am i still getting pushed

burnt bobcat
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not looking to min max crushers but what stats should i be most concerned about?

elfin steppe
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for gunners yes, but not shotgunners.

frosty herald
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they reduced it for gunners but not shotgunners i believe

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you shouldve experienced shotgunners at launch

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they were a menace

stone fern
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i got the tail end of death flamers

elfin steppe
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Gunners are so broken in this game, look at this stupid spawn

stone fern
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my main issue with gunners is that they have sniper accuracy

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my brother in nergle we both have braced guns how are you sniping me across the map?

wind pier
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his gun is just better

elfin steppe
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they have gatling laser gun

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and can stun lock you 50 meters away

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KEKW_ogryn melee class in this game living the worst life

stone fern
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Ah yes the suppression effects of laser weaponry

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well known across the galaxy

wind pier
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yeeeah when it's like this I just accept I have to use gun if I'm not using twbs

elfin steppe
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I mean, if I were playing a psyker or vet, I probably wouldn't even lose any health against those gunners.

median steeple
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oh god the talk about suppression is giving me ICO vibes

burnt bobcat
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# burnt bobcat I want to provide buffs and do big single target damage, how should I build with...

Crucis thunder hammer is the most single target oriented weapon in zealot's kit, and ironhelm thunder hammer is as well but sacrifices a bit of that single target in return for being able to cleave through trash with your activated attack. Both are very good. As for buffs, not a ton you can provide your team as zealot other than by chorus and anti-corruption aura, which are both still pretty helpful.

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Knife is also big single target but not as cool as thammers so

elfin steppe
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I put the psychic shield and just kill them off with brain burst or shards.

fresh sentinel
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gonna ask again but i saw a zealot in maelstrom with a crazy knife and he almost solo clutched a really really bad situation with it

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im wondering what that is and how to build it, it looked very funny

wind pier
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I use knife as well really good for anything

burnt bobcat
stone fern
burnt bobcat
stone fern
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impact isnt as good in darktide

south folio
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gunners in that spot are pretty deadly but that's also one of the few spots where they're a proper threat because of them dropping down and surrounding you, and you can just run forward without needing to fight then

maiden path
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wtf deviljho does no damage to me

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this is crazy

elfin steppe
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I thought about just running, but I'm too far away from my teammates' revive location, and I will end up aggro too many enemies.

elfin steppe
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and when I finally reached them

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a chaos spawn came out of the wall

south folio
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i usually deal with it if that situation comes to it, but i don't usually have to kite downwards unless there's a boss spawn or a melee patrol jumpscare where i just run back up the stairway from where you come from and the gunners will run into a chokepoint anyways

frosty herald
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Tanner is the most ass guide ever and will probably insult you 20 times

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Take advice from me

fleet zealot
# elfin steppe a chaos spawn came out of the wall

one time a chaos spawn threw me through the map boundaries, but I managed to walk back into bounds a further bit along the map but I guess I tripped another progress twitter cause a 2nd chaos spawn immediately spawned next to me and hit me off a cliff

fleet zealot
frosty herald
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Who hasnt played the game in 2 monthsHeresy

stone fern
fleet zealot
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he's constantly mad at the real elitists for not agreeing with him

south folio
fleet zealot
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he is mechanically skilled but often spouts wrong information and doesn't take corrections,

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a very big user of the Speak Loudly, insult people who disagree with you, and have confidence

elfin steppe
stone fern
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its an okay starting point

fleet zealot
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and it tricks people with no critical thinking to believe that he is the 2nd coming of christ

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lets see, anti rending blessings, lacerate on knife over flesh tearer, weakspot/crit damage for "muh consistency" did I miss any other bad takes tanner had

elfin steppe
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the power of stamina

fleet zealot
frosty herald
fleet zealot
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he is anti martyrdom after the talent tree update which is just, universally stupid

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it isn't everyone's cup of tea but it's completely viable and is high risk high reward playstyle

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like, before patch 13 it was the opposite building around martyrdom was trolling cause it only gave like 10% attack speed and the damage boost, no durability

stone fern
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yeah wounds are the most stupidly cheat curios to build most of the time they come in the store with great t4 perks

north sedge
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oh shit we talking tanner shitberg again

stone fern
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also go down get back up with almost max hp KEKW_ogryn

elfin steppe
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who is this famous guy

fair igloo
fleet zealot
stone fern
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a guy who got banned from here and made his own circle jerk discord

fleet zealot
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it's attack speed

fair igloo
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iirc i was told that the difference between 60% and 80% attack speed is actually extremely minimal

fleet zealot
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oh ok, then I retract the statement

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tanner does not support lacerate to my knowledge

ripe quest
fleet zealot
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especially since i run martyrdom that animation speed goes crazy at sub 3 wounds

fair igloo
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ikk obv defenses is the main dump stat but if u have one w/ a CC dump it's not the end of the world

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difference between an 80% and 57% crusher

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I think stat prio on the crusher goes damage/pen > power output > CC > defenses but i'm not exactly the smartest

fading vale
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yeah a small dump on CC is fine

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I run a 51% CC crucis cause it has triple damage stats

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triple 80

fair igloo
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Also what would a good chaxe look like?

fading vale
#

I was one of the "victims" of the knife revenge video

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so sad

elfin steppe
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wdym

fair igloo
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What woulddd be the best perks on a chaxe? Cara/Unyielding with Bloodletter/Something else?

fading vale
# elfin steppe wdym

someone came in, posted a bad knife with bleed crit chance and crit damage and we were like it's bad

fading vale
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and then they posted a video screenshotting 4 people's profiles

fair igloo
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I got this from melk's.. not saveable? ๐Ÿ’”

fading vale
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and calling everyone toxic

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and got banned for witch hunting lol

elfin steppe
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...

coarse dagger
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incredible

simple smelt
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lol

ripe quest
fair igloo
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nooooo another bricked godroll cursed to sit forever in my inven

fading vale
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you could probably get away with replacing both blessings

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weakspot is obviously terrible but

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not sure how reliant chaxe is on perks

frosty herald
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Bro uploads daily and finds a new way to be perpetualy salty and insult everyone

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Ive never seen that mf happy

fleet zealot
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it's not

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you can make it, bearable if it's your only option

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but mk4 chain axe wants headtaker slaughterer, and flak, maniac, unyielding, carapace are all the good perks

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mk12 chain axe can go thrust instead of one of the above blessings, and apparently gets bruiser breakpoints with unarmored

burnt bobcat
#

paired with flamer + crucis, thoughts?

fleet zealot
#

and why are you going chorus

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thammer is a burst weapon as is, you don't want to be lowering your normal crucis non activated dps to channel it

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and you take 0 cdr

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which is terrible for flamer

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i can adjust it, but are you deadset on taking chorus hammer?

burnt bobcat
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i want to be very supporty too

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but with single target

fleet zealot
#

thammer isn't a support weapon tbh

burnt bobcat
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i know i want single target too

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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with crit build, since crit is the premier "support' enabler right now

maiden path
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i fucking hate deviljho

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fucker keeps moving!!

burnt bobcat
maiden path
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i did like 80% of its health in one move and it just went rage and ran away after rage was done

fleet zealot
# fleet zealot

@burnt bobcat this is my best adjustment I can make to it, backstab cdr so you can maintain uptime on your "support". 10% attack speed, toughness DR on dodge

median steeple
fleet zealot
burnt bobcat
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i mean im open to bigger changes but i really just want single target + support

fleet zealot
# median steeple drugs have ruined king Julian

NOTICE: No real lemurs were depressed during the making of this animation.

Wanted to animate this ever since I came across the original video.

โ–ถ Play video
fleet zealot
median steeple
burnt bobcat
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like ill start going for the weapons once i have a build plan

fleet zealot
#

you can swap the melee attack speed point to somehwere else if you want

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for weapon you want something like rampage perfect strike. It's what I use since you get +55% crit from tree when ramped up anyways, and perfect strike is usually a bad blesisng but because of how mk15 light attacks work, it actually is good in this one specific case

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otherwise go shred rampage

polar nexus
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shiiiiit

fleet zealot
#

and for perks take 25% on flak, maniac, unyielding, carapace, all good options

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crit chance is, bad simply because 5% crit is less overall compared to the big 25% damage perks, or even 10% elites

burnt bobcat
#

Alright, thank you!

fading vale
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I have a hard time recommending hammer without chastise

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it just opens up so many options

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this is what I run except with backstab CDR over swift rn

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you could mod it for chorus

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I'd also say the only decent way to use throwing knives with hammer is to run flamer

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but I would take HR if you don't take restoring faith

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could also maybe use a kant shotgun

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the worst breakpoint from not running chastise is you will never 1 shot crushers

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fading vale
#

which is just.... not an ideal thing for pubs

safe tusk
#

And at that point there's better melee weapons for that style

elfin steppe
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MK XV Evi has too many bugs right now, I'm not even sure if FS will fix them.

visual stream
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Guaranteed crit for CDR feelsbad to go without as well

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elfin steppe
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the stagger, the desync, and the special attack can be interrupted

fading vale
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I hate to say it but chaxe/evis are better for that outside of monstrosities

safe tusk
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Knife, babyy.

fading vale
#

especially with the cooldown for relic since it's so long

elfin steppe
#

why do you even use relic with hammer

safe tusk
#

Why do you even use relic*

fading vale
#

voc vets be like

safe tusk
#

Imagine using the inferior shout

elfin steppe
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relic is not a good ability that's for sure.

safe tusk
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It's a great ability

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If you don't like playing the game

fading vale
#

its sad that it's never worth taking a relic upgrade talent

coarse dagger
#

It's funny

safe tusk
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I don't know why they didn't give it a damage upgrade

visual stream
#

Is there a new consensus that chorus has magically become bad or something

safe tusk
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Chorus is kind of a "crutch" thing.

fading vale
#

it's just mid

visual stream
#

VoC def better but still

safe tusk
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99% of the times I have it

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I just don't use it

safe tusk
#

Because it's better to kill the things

fleet zealot
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or well, overrated

elfin steppe
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unless they let you attack during the chorus it's just a very mid ability.

fleet zealot
#

it kills your dps and the damage boost doesn't make up for it in a setting with random teammates

fair igloo
#

i always thought it was cuz chorus is basically a smite that buffs ur team on a cooldown

fleet zealot
#

tbh, they should make it an activatable aura, that ticks slower and weaker, but still lets you use your weapon

royal vortex
#

i think chorus would be cool if one of the nodes made it into a beacon you could drop

fleet zealot
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smite does damage, albiet how little, and helps synergize with other psyker tools

safe tusk
#

Smite can actually be made to do stuff

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And has no CD

fleet zealot
#

zealot doesn't have venting shriek and spreading soulblaze for free,

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you press chorus and you are basically coinflipping if your team will even use it to it's full potential

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It staggers everything but monstrosities around you for many seconds, which is literally smite centered on yourself and gives overtoughness. If you're playing with non-bricked teammates, that's pretty good. Of course almost any team-oriented ability will be bad with bad teammates KEKW_ogryn

fleet zealot
#

i'm going to say the same thing I said about Old pre rework surge staff, it helps mid teams clear better and that's it

visual stream
#

Kind of like saying that healing people in MMOs is bad because they might suck dog ass at video games

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Kind of a meh argument

fleet zealot
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a truly bad team you are just stalling when you should be carrying with damage

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and with a truly good team, you are basically just polishing an already won run

fleet zealot
elfin steppe
#

why it only has one upgrade option lol

safe tusk
#

Smite used to be terrible but you can actually make it horde clear now so

burnt bobcat
#

best horde clear melee? crusher?

maiden path
#

@frosty herald hammer build fucks ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fading vale
#

eh, DT fails at being a team game so it's just not really worth it to dedicate yourself to using team stuff and sacrifice your own ability

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maiden path
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its too swag ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fleet zealot
#

darktide is specifically designed to be an aggressive, fast paced horde shooter, with teams usually working the best when it's 4 individuals with well rounded builds covering eachother

maiden path
#

im not getting oneshot anymore ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fleet zealot
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going too hard on support in the name of "omg look at me i'm helping my team sooo much" is no different from playing veteran and begging that zealot and ogryn should "tank" for you

polar nexus
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yes bolter

fading vale
#

on the surface DT looks like a team game but it's really just not

safe tusk
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You're four one-man armies

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Trying not to die

fleet zealot
royal vortex
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im a team game

elfin steppe
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your teammates' only value is to kill things fast.

north sedge
fleet zealot
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where they had a support, and add a tank, then suddenly a healer is always needed but if you have 4 healers you are screwed and omg it's just so weird

safe tusk
fleet zealot
#

well we better add an assassin, bruiser fight mage warlock death knight

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fading vale
#

it's more that you just make sure your teammates can keep killing things and help when shit goes south

fleet zealot
#

๐Ÿคข

elfin steppe
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they make it look like four classes but as you can see, even the Ogryn doing pretty well if they go full-range build.

visual stream
#

I know I can huntershruggy

burnt bobcat
#

which revolver better? agri?

polar nexus
#

zarona

burnt bobcat
#

kk

fading vale
fleet zealot
elfin steppe
#

and if there are two good vet players with plasma gun, you probably only need to follow them and pick some plasteel.

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ez game

burnt bobcat
#

crusher good for horde?

fading vale
#

crusher is good at everything

safe tusk
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Crusher is the most A tier at everything weapon ever

burnt bobcat
#

kk, indignatus is the crusher then?

royal vortex
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the fun part of playing with plasma vets is doing ur best to killsteal them constantly

fleet zealot
#

and not every "support" player is gonna be self sufficient especially for new player

fleet zealot
#

right now it's the only variant

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see ironhelm vs crucis, agri vs zarona etc etc

humble dome
#

Crusher is fun and pretty easy to get those blessings on . Also my fav on zealot

fleet zealot
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also yea, crusher is probably the best start weapon right now and is good at everything

elfin steppe
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fading vale
elfin steppe
#

you can occasionally see some backstab hammer build, but the hammer user decreased significantly.

royal vortex
visual stream
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We can agree to disagree and that is fine with me

fleet zealot
safe tusk
fleet zealot
royal vortex
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i think we had a conversation months back about how hard it is to properly fight 4 crushers in the psykh w/o chastise

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before p13

royal vortex
#

and its just like now u have to deal with that and significantly worse with like 20x ragers n shit

fleet zealot
#

hammers mostly show up in mosnter maelstroms or it's some dedicated hammer main

fading vale
#

yeah, I mean hammer is the highest skill ceiling weapon in the game but even then no matter what you ain't fighting a billion ragers maulers or crushers

royal vortex
#

yea

safe tusk
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At least crusher combos for single target is fun.

royal vortex
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which isnt bad because u shouldnt really be able to do that effectively solo

fleet zealot
#

like i've seen the chorus effect just like i've seen the old surge staff effect

royal vortex
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but u kinda have to be with spawns rn tldr powercreep

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burnt bobcat
#

revolver crusher support build?

polar nexus
#

finally, i can meme now

elfin steppe
#

maulers and crushers are probably ok, you can still kite them with hammer, ragers though

safe tusk
fading vale
burnt bobcat
visual stream
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I have a god roll crusher, waiting to try it out one of these days

safe tusk
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What's a support build

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Are you talking about using chorus?

fleet zealot
#

where you have this psyker spamming his 6 unit stun staff over and over again, only to get overwhelmed when the peril runs out and since nothing actually died

polar nexus
fleet zealot
#

you can go momentum+ backstab cdr

burnt bobcat
#

yes chorus and general toughness

royal vortex
safe tusk
fleet zealot
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but i don't recommend, crusher really likes fury of the faithful for a stat boost

humble dome
#

Chorus revolver and crusher is what i play also xd

fleet zealot
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but you do you

royal vortex
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i think i conceptually disagree with the idea of designated boss killer weapons so i'd like stuff to not just shit out unyielding damage but eet eez what eet eez

fleet zealot
#

darktide is just a game where you can solve 99% of issues by simply killing more, faster

burnt bobcat
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chorus is kinda the main focus, crusher and revolver are to fill roles that my team struggle with

visual stream
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Synonyms, then

fleet zealot
#

and I don't exactly want fatshark listening to the people who want them to add "healers" so they can support harder

polar nexus
visual stream
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Healers def not fit for the balance of DT

humble dome
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I like to throw in my vet or zealot build those support skills .

fleet zealot
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cause crusher is op

fading vale
#

you can run crusher with anything

fleet zealot
#

there is a crit crusher person here

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somewhere, hiding in the shadows

median steeple
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Like a ghoul

polar nexus
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I do Crit crusher too... But I prefer claw or chword

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Feels better

fleet zealot
#

And like, I'll do the voc comparision, VOC doesn't force you to channel, so you can keep shooting and killing, and it picks up allies automatically, which saves more time where you can, be killing

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chorus, and it's damage boost that is basically mandatory, doesn't really make up for the dps loss you get from holding it out

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fleet zealot
#

i can chain vocs together on vet

humble dome
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Do ppl when using voc is taking the second part? "Only in death does duty ends" . I personally don't take it

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But sounds cool as hell

polar nexus
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Radius of both the toughness bonus and stagger is lowered, and it's usually a pretty free revive when you use it any scenario

fleet zealot
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it's absolutely clutch value and extremely efficient in high diffs where specials grow from the fungus and rot

fleet zealot
#

as for radius

fleet zealot
#

it's just somethign to live with, 9m-6m is a fair trade off

humble dome
#

That increased cd idk what to feel about it . I like it cause i can spam that ab. So often๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

humble dome
#

Yeah i have that also but still

fleet zealot
#

30-45 is 2 more special kills and waiting a 3 seconds

humble dome
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Maybe i should give it a try

fleet zealot
#

a lot of it is oppurtunity/time cost

humble dome
#

I had a teammate last games

fleet zealot
#

basically removes any risk and loss dps from reviving,

humble dome
#

Died 14 times on heresy idk what was wrong with him but Zek if you see this i lov u man

visual stream
#

I used to be a revive node coper but I found that when I took it off that I lost pretty much no value, and in many cases gained more

slender sigil
#

have they fixed the blessing "executor"? (% damage on repeated weakspot hit)

visual stream
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Def viable but not my preference and not optimal imo

fleet zealot
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it no longer drops on bleed ticks

slender sigil
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missing a weakspot hit won't reset the stacks

fleet zealot
#

only drops on misses

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so noo....

slender sigil
#

sadge

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im not consistent

royal vortex
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it drops on first target bodyshot hit and thats it

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u can miss u just cant hit the first guy u touch in the chest

slender sigil
#

worth in your opinion?

fleet zealot
#

yes, I believe precog has a higher damage cap

royal vortex
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its decent on knife, the 6 moreso than the 3

fleet zealot
#

but executor is easy and consistent

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since you already go uncanny strike as your main blessing

north sedge
slender sigil
#

i have two knives option, can you help me on which is better?

fleet zealot
royal vortex
#

left for sure

fleet zealot
#

bleed is bad and double bleed is badder cause stacks stop at 16 and give nothing afterwards

royal vortex
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double bleed is pointless. you hit the same cap regardless and uncanny globally boosts your bleed damage

fleet zealot
slender sigil
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ohh i had no idea about the cap, thanks for the info

royal vortex
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the rending works on the bleed too

fleet zealot
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yee, I think they should give it like

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some use? not enough to make it viable option

royal vortex
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so it massively buffs ur damage into like cara, brings bleed damage from 75% to over 100% on unyielding, etc

fleet zealot
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but like, if you overcap with bleed, and apply bleed stacks, they just instantly take some bleed damage

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but that would be so hard to balance lol

elfin steppe
opal sparrow
visual stream
#

You can get the last word in if you like if it's that important to you, just say that ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

fleet zealot
#

just tried to end the convo

zealous basin
#

nice ferret

fleet zealot
#

then you immediately run back in

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to talk to me

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if i'm so unpleasant to talk to, don't talk to me

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it's that shrimple

sharp zodiac
maiden path
#

mods kick dis mf in the nuts

sharp zodiac
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Mods drench them in oil

coarse birch
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what are we drenching them in oil for

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this is an odd punishment

maiden path
#

mods

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tar and feather him

opal sparrow
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I can get behind this

sharp zodiac
#

Grab his feet(๐Ÿคค) and scrape his toes on concrete consecutively

visual stream
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What if I like dat tho

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I'm a working man, I got some callouses need fixin

sharp zodiac
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I'm going on a whim that you do not

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I have no backup plan

fleet zealot
#

that went beyond zealot chat level

coarse birch
#

lunas obsession with feet grows worse by the day

fleet zealot
#

right there

maiden path
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feet mentioned in chat

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gif deployed

sharp zodiac
#

Don't fucking send that

maiden path
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its like a nuclear bomb

coarse birch
#

luna how do you deal with someone wearing like sandals in public

maiden path
#

the two neurons in my brain connect and i post juri feet gif

coarse birch
#

do you just explode

sharp zodiac
#

Depends on if they have socks on or not

coarse birch
#

i am assuming no socks

sharp zodiac
#

So long as I have a glimpse

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It works

coarse birch
#

as socks with sandals is generally frowned upon

sharp zodiac
#

Honestly I forgot sandals existed

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Only ever seen em worn by hairy dads tbh

fleet zealot
zinc talon
#

What did I just walk into

fleet zealot
#

but i got people in my life that do

fading vale
#

all I've worn recently is socks and flip flops undead

fleet zealot
#

and i can't judge

maiden path
#

sigh revealed

#

fake feet heads in chat

coarse birch
#

in your case

zinc talon
#

Oh yall like feet huh

sharp zodiac
#

If it makes it any better

coarse birch
#

i do not like feet

sharp zodiac
#

I don't like dirty ones

zinc talon
#

Its been unseasonably cold here

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And I've been goblin mode this weekend