#zealot-class
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if you change either to thrust and weakspot to unyielding its not awful
good stats at least
Will do 🙂 im just starting damnation and was looking for a good "starter weapon"
Still trying to define my role. Horde clear is alright, elite killing as well but vs ranged its a pain even with strafing and charge.
We need the holy hand grenade
Of Antioche
hmm, the toughness DR during dodges seems to be varying
plogryn's stomp gets reduced to 75% damage
his other attacks get reduced to 50%
bomber's grenade fire gets reduced to ~87.5%
oh wiat i guess those attacks just have >1x toughness multipliers
arco are you testing DR on dodge at fucking 2 am
yeah plogryn's stomp has a 2x modifier so it makes sense that -50% toughness dr turns it into 1.5x, and 1.5/2.0 = 75%
what better time is there
can't believe that toughness dr and multipliers are additive instead of multiplicative
wha
u stupid bith
can't believe ren is guilty of premeditated murder now
😔
also, very rude to wish that fate upon me
it is inevitable
only because i wishlist anything that seems remotely interesting
in case my 70 year old self wants to buy it
wow
i was gonna make a joke about nerd shit but i understand this
u know what i dont understand
why ppl keep saying unstable power is 20% at t4 when its CLEARLY 5%
SMH.
the memories are flowing back
WORTHLESS BLESSING
also throw back to warp nexus being harnessing the warp for like a week
the random undocumented blessing changes into random undocumented name reverts
@fading vale i have a second monitor you hoe
what are you talking about
you BASTARDS are not gASLIGHTING ME
so you keep zealot chat open to check on me?
OwO
mankar
mittins
exhillious
lazorr (who did not do it on mankar's request but rather because he is a person of bad character)
you're not deserving of OwOing
you binch
how could I be a bad person when you are like this
this looks inappropriate in an esoteric way
also I don't see a second monitor in that picture
really revealed that laptop's personal plights
you ever stick your finger into the fan

u know it
shame that these fans come exposed
almost like they're supposed to be put into an enclosure that would serve as guards against the fan blades
you need a fan case for your case fans
this makes it worse somehow
interrupting its private time
ur not a laptop fan so you can't speak for it
i think they are put into an enclosure more so for airflow rather than keeping your fingers safe given you dont work on a pc while the fans are running because its off
you sound so sure of your assumption
i'm sure god will guide the airflow onto where my laptop needs it
ye it's blowing air into
although ig since your sitting in front of it that makes sense
the laptop sucks air from below and vents it out top
stupid bith
stick your head in the fan
wh
dont wh me
you always say some rude shit and then i retaliate and you act all innocent
wh
this is not happening
What?!!!!
josho is just harkening back to somebody who was adamant that unstable power was only up to 5% and supposedly did testing that confirmed this
reminds me of the 11111 guy
best skill set up
God
facts are determined by the politeness of the guy informing me
So uncouth.
why are you trying to eat them
have you not seen the madman trying to turn everyone who slightly inconveniences him into lasagna
I've only heard rumors upon the code
nowhere near as harmful as the evil wizard who transforms people on a whim
scan.......
for the love of god replace your thermal paste
the creature was already suffering


i cannot see messages
yoshi hates me
,
josho may be in bedge
Why would you hate him
i should also probably go to bedge as it is 7 am
however i can play
let me finish this getting a perfect on this ff7 mini game tho
good luck
i woke up at like 7 pm yesterday life is good
i woke up at 10 am
did anyone else wake up at 4 am
life is slightly less good
nah woke up at 1 pm
wish I could do that again
go bedge
skele attempts to summon the crew for darktide and becomes horrified when he checks the clock
skele becomes the rabbit from alice in wonderland
im used to u guys waking up at weird times and being awake for my timezone 
not my fault yoshi woke up at a normal time yesterday!
oof
loing
loing
i just played a rhythm minigame for an hour straight and had to restart twice because i got "good" intead of perfect on the last note give me a break
play Solitaire
i was going to say "i have autism and i would not bother with something so stupid for that long" and then i remembered the struggle to no-hit S rank metal gear rising
i have to finish that
FUCK
Solitaire is perfect because it's a sorting game with rules
of COURSE
thats so f relatable tbh
dude revengeance is easier than VH
cap
would have done the same
cap
my autism demands sorting games can we switch
U RESTART ON TAKING DAMAGE ANYWAYS
its easier with the parries until they just throw 6 of the grabby guys in a room where the camera cant fucking follow them
I just got attacked by a spiderweb
ur first example should be ANY of the enemies with guns
did you win
im not counting no hit
because u take random chip damage for like 6 frames of downtime
and u have to instantly restart
armstrong in particular still felt ez
like sundowner
ye but it was close
armstrong's first 2 sections suck fkin ass
brave soul, you were lucky to survive
sundowners neat cause i like the cutting of his shields but you can also just giga combo him
with a launcher
the best bossfight will always be sam
and it is no longer a boss fight
because u just fight boss
yeah sam is probably the best
and dont deal with like
im biased for armstrong cause i like his song
the fact that the game is a setup for bossfights with relatively annoying fights otherwise
and stupid fkin hidden rooms you have to clear to get s-rank
its a good thing crushing peoples spines does not get less satisfying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H__qQq1m9LE anyways since im talking about my half-finished s-rank revengeance run
A man literally goes nuts playing a game, while im playing Bloons TD 6
i have to post this
which was my friend recording me losing my fucking mind
and editing it down
ill not hit elden ring or ds3 but mgr just sounds miserable
that game is not designed to be no hit
thats very cool josho7788
the checkpoints are super badly designed
for certain fights
@lusty turtle did you still want to play
u will have to restart armstrong like a million fkin times because u will get hit into a checkpoint that u cant go back and the whole level is ruined
the other bosses are relatively fine about this iirc
monsoon is pretty terrible in a lot of ways for it
revengance and ninja gaiden are the only hack and slash/action games ive bothered with the stupid difficulties on
not because attack combo hard
but because his fucking EMP GRENADE deals like 5% damage
yeah that thing is annoying
comon willy pete W
i couldnt parry that move either till i realized tapping forward and attack a bunch auto parries the entire game
i want them to make vet smokes WW2 WP smoke nades
at some point ur not parrying monsoon moves ur mashing the fkin keys until u know he stops
i can probably run a few missions before i totally face plant
my friend was appalled i played the game on keyboard and so i learned it out of spite
i have not used a controller in years
i play the arkham games and revengance on keyboard for action games and everything else on controller
joinin aswell josho?
sure
i feel like ive done an equally stupid challenge
well
maybe not actually
ive come close but not that insane
most games i impose challenges for myself on it was somewhat designed for it or like a final fantasy where i can grind and shit
steroid josho before he moved onto crack cocaine
when i was young and hopeful
when he used actual words instead of randomised screeching
before josho evolved into a dinosaur
Imagine if josho had a parrot
imagine if josho had multiple
man I haven't really gone to sleep yet and I think I regret this
granted I slept like half of yesterday after noon but
nooooo
30 hours awake gang 
thats how u die, at some point I think
I'm on more of an awake for 6-8 hours sleep for 3 or 4 kind of schedule
I used to do that a lot, I think hitting my 30s made it impossible now though lol
At least I can sleep easier now though
ay as long as u stay hydrated 
drinking that Gatorade zero atm
Ice wtf 
Are you hydrated
@royal vortex
you have once again been chosen
Not my fault
help
oh i thought you were gonna do the whole thing tbh
hash is the only standout spelling mistake
HI ILY
Hello Mr scent socks
hello stan
Josho should be corncobs
Hello zealots. Is mobility important on flamer?
no
51% as usual
mostly just cloud radius/burn, high ammo is nice if u can get it but the range isn't huge
Mobility is the dump stat for any weapon that has it. Though +50 is nice if possible
thank you for the answers
Would anyone like to form an all zealot damnation team later.... 😏
4 knife or 4 wound
reminds me of the time we did 4 crucis and I noticed nobody had a flamer and suggested someone take it and then everyone but me did and I had to kill every single distant special
lmao yeah 3 flamers is overkill
I don't remember what the 3rd was but it wasn't something for killing the ridiculous amount of snipers
not to mention the other 2 didn't really play hammer

Possibly 
drink water or be resigned to the same fate as a raisin
@south folio
u play one game of rashad
and suddenly u have to DDR ur way out of 5 fucking snipers surrounding u while everyone else has perished horribly
simply throw a stun grenade and walk there
after all thats how you're meant to use them forget clutches just stun one sniper
i was STRUGGLIN
Ok that was your second rashad game
unimportant details
I'd be up but tomorrow :/ Gotta test perfected strikes on my Eviscerator MKXV I think it's so slept on
it isnt, because cleaving 10 enemies for 30 damage wont do much
even savage sweep is more reliable to use, but considering that MK15 already got great cleave, you are fine with rampage for the most part
evisc 15 is pretty easy to use too
just averaged a 64% crit chance with my revolver last game, very cool 
You not taking in account going through flak/carapace and hitting all of the horde with the slash instead of sticking on the armor,I don't take it for the damage I take it for the ability to ignore armor mass, pair it with the light attack that always hits horizontally I think it's busted, first couple runs on auric went pretty well
The only thing you get is a stagger on trash mobs, better kill them for good (elites mixed in horde that can get your sword stuck) instead of tickling the entire horde. You probably also get a CD reset if running on crit builds, but it's not like there's a problem with that. It's a good thing for memes, but in terms of effectiveness it's not something that actually useful.
Yea I run it with a crit momentum build with toughness curios, I tend to tear hordes just as I did with savage sweeper IV
And sword won't block on elites, it goes right through them on crit obviously but it tends to crit nearly always
Stan has offended mittens
Perfect Strike only ignores the Carapace armor bounce and Bulwark shields. Also, use it on the Mk II with a crit build and Shred, not the Mk XV. The horde clear combo on the XV doesn't really take advantage of PS.
I'll try, have an mk2 I can change to make same exact build and try it out, tho I don't like the mk2 attack pattern, I find mkXV just so much more reliable with the light attack pattern and easy heavy attack headshots on big stuff
And then to you the XV is damaging 4 enemies per swing max. Not 10 for 30, only the II does that on the H1.
yeah pstrikes value has very little to do with ignoring carapace
it has a 0.25x hitmass modifier
It's def the 4x cleave
yee
but there is some value to being able to horde clear through Crushers and more specifically Bulwark Shields.
super funny when it happens
don't take any of this games tooltips at face value more or less
supposedly armor mass was an older mechanic that doesn't really exist anymore and now it's just you ignore carapace stopping your swing pretty much
not true this tool tip is very useful
something something useless Blessing
idk why they make Tiers when once you reach 30 you don't need them anymore
Well I wouldn't say just, I find it huge to be able to hit through them
But as I said only tried it a couple runs, I gotta test it more to know if I like it better with ps
light spamming crushers is certainly a thing you can do
chain axe differences?
heavy and light attacks swapped

i prefer mk4, as it's heavy attacks are for the horde clear and light attacks with insane attack speed (let's say with +50%) are strong against bosses and elites, tho heavy attacks also can clear most of the normal elites
Right!!??
mk12 is simpler and easier to use
Yeah, swing pattern on the 12 is a lot easier to use.
decided to peruse reddit again
someone tell him that things spawn
Dear Lord the reddit provides great comedy
they don't realize that they are in fact the worst type of player
sitting in the back killing trash
900 upvotes of course
average pug player: report dis rusher zilot
i prefer the mk4, even with it's weird quirks, it becomes an absolute beast, stacking 2x power blessings
ok i will say
some people do genuinely rush and it's frustrating
that basically ignore combat, using stealth or movement abilities even, while their team is pinned down by elite/horde/special
moving forwards is good but I've noticed a rise of people who just go to the airlock then spam ping while I'm filling the kill feed
They're like elephant shrews with only a couple hours to live left
they did mention that the "rushers" were killing all of the elites and specials
it doesn't help that my vet build is on the slower end
yee, the poster is a clown
if you can't handle trash mobs you need to go back to the crafting table
well call me out of time
cause i'm broke

I just like having nuance so people don't instantly assume the slowest person is a snail and maybe they just got caught in a bad spot by a mauler and rager pack
tbh its pretty easy to differentiate between person caught by maulers/crushers/zerks and random idiot who's staying behind and farming that "door" for whatever reason
they will literally keep spawning because you are standing all the way back there
oh god esp the archive elevator

and also a pure horde doesn't need a full team handling it
my brother in the emperor you will come back with less health making the trip to the medstation
a pure horde jsut needs one person in a good spot 
if i see teammates fighting it, then i'm booking it ahead cuz you've volunteered yourself for staying back
Hello arcowo chan
hi spider toe stanowo
teammates killing all the real threats is so triggering smh
you have to change your name cause you don't have a spider toe pfp anymore
What 
Yes I do
oh did you change it back
remember the vets who claimed ogryns and zealots should "tank and peel" for them
instead of simply pressing Q and killing the poxwalker themselves
it's a zealots job to kill the 3 poxwalkers attacking me
they will kill poxwalker with their plasma gun when he's near your zealot

scoreboard chasing
Schrodinger's scoreboard, it either does or doesn't count towards performance
then you look at lesser enemies killed and you also have just as many or more than everyone else
TOXIC BEHAVIOR

^ this is how I imagine Josho tbh
Or this

cant help
you imagine josho with a mustache???????
they are standing in my way of rushing
Hmm hashbrowns
Why does he do this to me
who in their right mind would imagine Josho with a mustache
@royal vortex
but the most toxic behavior is when you actually outdamage columnus V and Plasma gun veteran with ranged as zealot, while also doing like +300-400k melee damage
people are so lazy these days
he's definitely a 5 foot tall twink

I should probably not reference 12 month old zealot chat
What
I know you wouldn't remember it's ok
What is good axe build
Combat Axe
Gonna run it in auric maelstrom and leave wanting to kill myself
that squad must've been through hell
there were only two deaths since i got into the game
some poor soul was having a bad day
like i only saw two people get rezzed
is knife zealot gud? i'm thinking about using fury with it 😄
momentum or martyrdom, fury of the faithful
it's mid
just go uncanny strike+ executor or precog, make sure you grab duelist
zealot knife is great assuming you are "that guy"
who O_o
Him
is uncanny a must
just made this
Or ruthless backstab, either
Uncanny is more for direct engagement, ruthless for stealth
there was this one fucker called mujahid or something with a white mask
uncanny I guess. stealth is for the hammer XD
the guy played the entire mission pulling his weight and more on stealth knife
and did not take a single point of hp damage on damnation
what a pro 
Knife zealot can be very good if u play it in a way that’s beneficial to ur team
make emperor proud
yeah the issue is the second you go stealth your team has to deal with 25% more aggro the challenge is you have to make it so thats not an issue
some people can I however am not that guy
wounds evsci for me
also loner makes your team take more aggro
saw friend being effective with knife, so I want to try that too
if you build a good knife and don't play super selfish it can be good
i'm the embodiment of teamwork 
everyone just has terrible memories and experiences with "those" knife players
so far im at a net zero ive seen great and ive seen bad
good ones are more recent since the overhaul since the tree and buffs
had one team on auric dam of three knifers amazing mechanically
we went to the last stage without a single person getting 1 wound
gonna make emperor proud
WHEN HADRON STOP SCREWING UP MY 370+ KNIFES 
but no one helped the person carrying the cooling rods and we lost right there
the repair one?
rarely see a random team coordinate to throw up the rods, so always have to walk up
idk the one where you have to get 3 cooling barrels up the stairs
yeah
you can just throw them up top which I guess people still can't coordinate
and a knife should excel at that given the speed
for the catachan MK VI knife, should I go uncanny and executor or uncanny and fleshtearer?
Uncanny + Executor will yield better results.
yes
Executioner stance says buh-bye
Best ways to use chorus? What should I know about it?
what's the console button combo to push block?
i barely see xbox people do it so I assume it's unyeildly
the console button is to throw it in the trash and play on PC

last time i played with a console player, they were on ogryn and only used their ranged weapon
didn't go too well for them
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Runs flawlessly at or close to 165 with all settings at Maxx Dicc
They just debuted pilotable mech exosuits a day or two ago
meanwhile me with a 12900k and a 4090 getting like 80-100 with some settings turned down 
So now I can fight as an orbital drop pod inserting heavy armor wearing explosive ammunition using supersoldier
Inside of a mech chassis
Do titan fall
Few things will ever match this josho clip https://streamable.com/thlcf3
I can't wait for the other [redacted] to be added.
So many cool [redacted], lots of them seem balanced and pretty fun except for the [redacted]
yknow until they issue something on the use of mods like [redacted] I'm gonna steer clear
I went whole hog on darktide cuz this is the second game fatshark's had a clear stance on what's kosher and what's haram
(I would totally still use third person camera)
the booms is good booms tho
totally worth the cost of admission
unless they've jacked up their rates after the game went viral and blew up
in which case still buy it, but frowning the whole time
I would use the mech if the rocket bug was fixed
Anngak
Luna
Creature of steel

what is the rocket bug
but the mech is perfect for rocketing bugs
Ok so
The rocket has a hitbox when you fire it
Meaning that when you rotate the rocket is technically still in the tube and it collides with the inside of the mech instantly blowing it up
dont turn right and missile
@zinc talon have you encounter any toxicity in hd2?
Do you like my lunch 😍
What is happening here
light year sandwich
Microwaved veggie burgers and chick fil a sauce
That is a sad meal
Can we get a restaurant style description of what this is
Oh I just completely missed it
My brain is wrong
Stan imma be real that probably slaps
Microwaved-seared succulent soy protein burgers with an artful dab of tangy sauce
I regret checking this chat
Surprisingly, just my own
You'd think tho wouldn't you, but if it's out there I've never seen it
Heh I'm not even sure what the mechanics are for friendly fore and griefing, I've never run up against it
most I've heard about is kicking at the end of mission
Shudder to think its just a free for all, they've got some anti cheat program that loads before the client even does so I'd assume they ha e somehting
Havent seen any toxicity except a telling off because i reinforced someone near enemies
If u want toxicity just run mortar turrets because teammates will run into every bomb even after warning them about it and pinging the sentries and then they'll kill u after :)
It's like playing HLL but minus the evil bugs and the fact you can't hear anyone mad at you due to prox chat
Artillery wise
Mortar turrets is throwing with terminids
I was going to say something when I came in here but I was so shocked by stans latest creation I can't remember it anymore
I think we've missed an opportunity to call hemorrhoids assteroids
no
i wonder who the ppl who decide what to name diseases and conditions are
When you're getting robbed you can save yourself by asking the robber if they like caramel corn
It will distract them enough
To go for their weapon
like whoever named the fear for long words is sadistic
They did that on purpose lmao
They KNEW what they were doing when they named it that
Doktors
Are you fucking serious
no he's a dog
fleshtearer will allow you to easily kill bulwark patrols and others stuff with strong hemorrhoids debuff and it's a nice damage boost against bosses and crushers, maulers, basically you can drop target at around 30% HP, it will die from bleed
give her a treat 🥺
what if instead you did 30% more damage
She will get one
In a few hours
Along with the FISH
EVIL FUCKING FISH
Replace skullcrusher and infested and it’s not half bad
What would I replace em with? Could use it for a crit build. Ya think?
Cause I got shred 4
Flak + rampage is best prob
Oh mb, maniac then
not 25 but.
I can’t read lmao
eh close enough.
Dammit I don't have Rampage for this weapon.
could put on Devastating Strike for now
cause it benefits from crits.
not a bad idea, can always switch it later
Skull crusher is a bit weird to have on that weapon wanyways
Anyways*
Gonna have to make toughness stuff since I won't be running martyrdom if I run a crit build lol.
devastating strike is weak, do you have wrath?
2 stacks of Wrath = Devastating Strike
I have literally nothing. I don't use this weapon.
yeah wrath is preferable but devastating isn’t a horrible option till you get something better
rampage overall is just a lot more damage on whatever you put it on, it’s a little op
Yeah.
I'll run Devastating for now.
then go from there
speaking of which
how does the devil claw sword do on bosses? With a crit build mostly
I do have an alternative if that won't cut it anymore but
or hell, how does it do against like... maulers n crushers n shit
you just have to parry to do damage to carapace
flak damage on normals isn't amazing, but again parry helps
Just use fury of the faithful and you'll get through anything lol
Can melt crushers with an autogun or a lasgun if you use that
I run it.
I'm running a braced autogun.
Columnus
Yeah, hit F and then unload into them :D
columnus is good
Columnus Infantry is godly
the braced is good
No idea about the Braced tbh, just remember hearing bad things compared to Agri and Graia braced
I'd say not as good as agri but it's good
high ammo, goes brr, high move speed, solid damage
its spread on hipfire is slightly annoying at times
It's basically the 'doesn't excel at anything, just good at everything' type gun.
from what I heard
So it's weaker but more consistent overall against everything
Sometimes that can be good (1a infantry lasgun) and sometimes bad (krourk stubber)
its technically best braced
Columnus 2 -> Agri 8 -> Graia IV
OK lmao, what happened to it then?
I was told it's the worst? What?
I have like hundreds runs with braced guns, lets go a short way:
Agri8 - highest damage and penetration, lowest max ammo/ammo clip
Columnus 2 - mid penetration and damage, maxed ammo clip and average max
ammo
Graia IV - lowest penetration and damage, highest rate of fire, maxed ammo clip, maxed ammo overall
agri has the best range
and pen/cleave
columnus is just good all around with lots of ammo
graia has the highest close range dps when braced
oh also the columnus mobility is super high
same as autopistol
Anyone got a fun but effective build for zealot? Something a btit different. Been playing axe and stub/flamer forever
majority of melee weapons in the game: "oh no three ragers, what am I going to do"
Crusher:
the main reason i use columnus2 over Agri8 is because it has the highest kill rate per ammo clip
So get a big club!
columnus2 - 74 ammo and agri 45
the only problem with the crusher is that it's so fun hitting everything with it that it always makes me run headfirst into every situation before thinking because i just go "I'm using crusher I can take this"
I use agrippa VIII because I just hold left click with it and slower fire rate gives me a longer grace period as I swing the mouse around
Fun fact - you actually can lol
This is the zealot way though right?!
most of us assume crusher safety will be nerfed at some point but yeah
"Oh hey an entire mixed horde and my team is halfway across the map I can totally take this"
And then i get KBd into a mauler overhead and live anyways because zealot skill tree
I'm enjoying my favorite F tier weapon getting the buff it deserved 💪 for as long as I can at least
(I don't always play like that the clip is just when i was first trying out the crusher build so i got a little... overzealous)
yeah can't forget good positioning
I hope the power maul gets the crusher treatment one day
any other weapons fun for finesse build other than knife
yeppp, all my other builds for my other classes are more defensive and I was just having TOO much fun with zealot's mobile berserker playstyle
it was such a breath of fresh air when zealot finally clicked with me
i def wanna give it the crusher treatment 
we'll see what happens nxt time we get to do testing
my other favorite thing about crusher is how seamless the combo chains for it are
either full on overhead bonanza or crowd control horizontals at any point I require
nothing's more fun in the game than landing oneshot bonks in quick succession
Mobile chastise zealot is just IMO the most fun way you can play this game and I appreciate that crusher is a good enough generalist weapon that u can use it fighting any enemy except for those outside ur melee range
It reminds me of ANOTHER really fun mobile melee playstyle in another game
very cool zealot gameplay
imagine ult refund on elite/specialist kill
especially that triple chastise
EXACTLYY!! Especially with its shove attack, since the shove attack is good for both singletarget AND hordes and it can be chained into the overhead OR horizontal heavy it's sooo fun to play with
Chastise is the original and most zealoty build
That's why I run a piety CDR build with chastise like everyone else cuz it gives me that demoknight type of feel where u can just chain charges together
and it opens up ragers and bulwarks
wait for bulwark to swing, push attack "parry" it, then immediately combo into light attack into heavy attack
as for ragers, either push attack or horizontal heavy stop their chains
Uhmmm this is absolutely not true
Its the 111111 build
you reading all this king, pick crusher

Zealot was literally my least played class until I tried out the chastise/crusher build
Now I might even be playing it more than my ogryn
ESPECIALLY with how well the ult lines are delivered it just gives you adrenaline
glad people enjoy new crusher
I wonder how bad the backlash will be when crit CDR gets yeeted
i absolutely adore it and it's the sole reason i enjoy playing zealot
ye but its a dramatic transformation and i've seen one or 2 complaints about it 
i've posted this clip a few times before but THIS is what solidified zealot as tied for my favorite/most fun to play
like no other class gives me that rush
there have been people that somehow miss the old crusher
yes
average melee combat enjoyer
i wonder if tactical axes will get a crusher treatment, they are just either weird or feel weak
How bad was the old crusher? Like Paul level or?
all attacks were useless except for the special spam
old crusher was identical to current paul
bad breakpoints, slow attack speed
no good qualities other than special spam
Paul was better than old crusher in terms of damage
you couldn't oneshot headshot any infantry with a heavy overhead
WHAT
but yeah it was just special L1 repeat
Wow i'm glad it got reworked then
It was so bad
honestly for that to happen i think BM needs to be gutted then axes n shovels re-assessed
like old crusher, a heavy with chastise didn't 1 shot a sniper
paul still has the old crusher radius
I used it because I loved that it had an overhead heavy, it was the closest thing to my 2h mace from Vermintide 2
but now it's better than the 2h mace from Vermintide 2
i was checking paul the other week to get a feel for it and ye still a 13m suppression blast 
yeah it's dps is just sooooo ass in the current version of the game
any amount of utility from it is not worth
what I think I enjoy the most about chastise crusher zealot is I feel like it rewards higher APM the most cuz of the combos and how mobile u can be so u can literally play as fast as u want and u really FEEL it
zipping around everywhere with the charge to instantly help your team when they need it
if i get my way it'll lose most of its blast and get some combos like crusher
but its just finding the combos and deciding why l3/4 exist vs the heavies
Give it all radius but no dmg i say
blow up
ogryn weapons can't have combos smh

Paul should just get power cycler 4 integrated into its base kit duhhh totally
Crusher is actually crazy good
Idk what its weakness even is
Does it at least have a Cleave cap or something?
it doesn't really have a weakness
you might fall asleep while using it
Still praying for power greatsword with bret longsword moveset on vet
I would totally run stamina block effeciency on my qurios
it doesn't have a weakness but it doesn't have a strong point
or atleast thats the intent, for now its too safe with the special L1 cleave
It's too fun and satisfying for that though lol
Crowd control without sacrificing damage?
But I guess the special l1 is a big part of that
Got a question. If I'm running a crit build can I still run one wounds thing or?
it's basically the only weapon you can take into a horde of ragers and maulers
its impact values are super scuffed and need a sanity check, but if they make it not stun infinite crushers it'll still be good without being too safe
don't run wounds or at least make it your goal not to
Ok but hear me out, what if it stunned everything but did nothing
don't you only get 2 wounds on damnation or whatever then?
Yea
yep
if you die more than once per medicae you are generally doing something wrong, and yeah you are squishier
Got it thanks, will build ASAP
You can also go full 350 health and holy revenant
for blessings, uhh, pick stuff like hammerblow and skullcrusher
for properties, I think you need flak armor to hit a oneshot heavy attack breakpoint on all scab infantry units, test it out in the meat grinder
then spec into max stamina everywhere in your curios so you have as much stamina as possible for push attacking
so in other words ONLY run all wounds on Martyrdom
yep
cool cause that's my main build
did you just recommend stamina on all curios
why are you trolling people
Appreciated, game just crashed on me so a plan for tomorrow!
tbf
there's a good crusher guide in the pins
all stam is based
sprint efficiency and stamina regen on all
more push attacks


what does that guide say
I don't think josho would ever recommend anything stam related
maybe 1 stam curio max for crusher
regardless, the guide has great content other than curio related stuff
well I like to sprint around the map everywhere, so I run it on all characters I have
I mean you do you, it's just not something anyone runs
1 stam on vet or psyker is about as far as the "accepted" meta goes
the guide in the pins has no section on curios?
oh did he not include those in the overall builds
Would be toughness generally
perhaps he didn't want to deal with curio questions
Unless marty ofc
and everyone's a crackhead that slides constantly so people also don't usually run anything sprint related
but I guess crusher is maybe safe enough to get away with some things idk
indeed it is
but it also works on my veteran builds so who knows
especially on my smoke grenade build
its weakness are enemies that aren't in ur melee range, duh!
not if you can run up to them
hint hint +9 stamina
"I don't care if you're a sniper with an extremely powerful las-sniper i'm going to charge at you and tank the shot with my iframes"
I've always been plenty fast even with a 2 dodge hammer in large part cause chastise exists
what is chastise, I don't remember
the zealot charge
upgraded version calls itself fury of the wicked
everyone still calls it chastise
it does mention chastise in the description and also there is an overlap of fury
I mostly run the fortitude trinket thingy, so I don't have two dashes at my disposal yeah
with piety
The relic is amazing but nothing will ever replace just how much pure fun chastise is
idk why they renamed chastise
Well, I just clutched up. I love being Zealot sometimes
All the original skills got renames
does anyone actually use the new names
FotF, Indomitable, Venting Shriek, Executioners Stance
maybe they do outside of discord
For vet and psyker people do
Zealot and ogryn you see the old name more
People tend to call brain rupture BB more
Chastice hasnt been renamed
Its the base ult for zealot now
Fury is the upgraded one
well the ability you select has a new name
i just use the more common name because that's the only one i remember
like bull rush and voice of command
venting shriek
idek if those names are the base or upgraded ones
WAIT Lol vet's is exec stance
update on this. I got wrath 2. I'mma temporarily replace Skullcrusher with that until I can get rampage or whatever. Just for bonus cleave off something. 3 hits to surpass devastating so eh.
I don't really remember what shriek used to be lol
shriek
ah....
One of the best games of all time 🙏
i remember my first attempt at furious rajang
This is my TEMPORARY Devil Claw. I'mma replace wrath with rampage once I unlock it.
I just don't have many blessings for this weapon
is it bad I assumed fuego was a stan name
is lars lars give give xylophone a stan name
yes
amazing
ill never forgive mhw for making one shots normal
shits harder then sekiro
not used to other mods coming in here
IKR the difficulty spikes can be insane
fuck u mean the giant ape that can clear the distance in sub 50 milliseconds cna one shot
Think I should upgrade this to blue just to see if I get the blessing I want? Pretty sure it's worse then the other one anyway. Lower cleave damage (albeit by 1%), below average overall damage but 5% higher cleave targets so. Also lower mobility
I was forced to come along to AT velkh before i'd even beaten alatreon
u can guess how it went
im not cool enough to craft mid combat like that, good shit 
Your dumbass doesnt run defense up
i just bring the max of the regular stacks but i always forget to grab spare materials to make more
Bruh
Ty!! It's the smoothest zinogre hunt i've ever gotten in a clip, really proud about it :D
i use hbg which doesnt help either
i really appreciate how much MHW rewards taking your time thinking outside the box and preparing yourself
np i havent played since june of last year so im glad that people are still wrecking house in that game
was and still is a HH main
its kinda funny that world is much more popular than rise
HH for life!!!
being a 6 year old game, but not a Playstation 2 port
i NEED my crimson kadachi 3 hbg
im sorry Nintendo Switch*
then I will make a real build
cant differentiate
I have NEVER used any other weapon in mhw other than HH and i am proud to have that on display on my guilld card
I've always wanted to try rise!! I heard HH got some major changes in it tho so ik it would probably be nothing similar
The second stage uppercut combos infinitely into itself
i want to have an obscenely large fur cape
You will skip animation frames if you use it back to back
The pain of looking like you hit random on a character cust screen until late MR whenever u follow build guides 💔
it is a sin that im not allowed to dress like this 24/7
That outfit is AMAZING
as expected of a hammer player
wait no yamamoto was the hammer player im an idiot
still cool either way
Hammer in world is cracked
ya is mad funny that whipbug central isnt getting as much attention as the game who walked so rise could run 
as a lad who only owns world im happy about this fact
whenever I hunt with a hammer player it always makes me feel like i'm doing something illegal
Rise doesnt have the same oomph as world
World has very pretty locales and endemic life
Rise is more of an arcade experience
Also the brutal anomaly grind
THIS. This was one of my favorite parts of mhw
It felt like a real world with real habitats and ecosystems
so much time spent just exploring and like watching/catching the animals
ya i feel that, hell sometimes i'd go on expeditions with no monster in mind just enjoying the scenery
did that a few times when i 1st unlocked elder's egress
i think that's its name? i forget but ya the massive crystal-y place
My favourite area in rise has to be the tower battlements with the beautiful moon in the background
the sceneries and areas are just sooo great. If I ever try rise I hope it has as much detail in its ecosystems as world does
(It doesnt)
is crimson kadachi 2 still the best pierce hbg
I will always have a special place in my heart reserved for hating bageljuice and banbodyguard tho
because of hardware limitations
switch is basically a better ps3
and pc port only improved textures
core problems wont go away
I hate the fact that medals have a cap of 250
imma be real if this is in the credit shop i will cry
Its to prevent people from clearing every new warbond the day of release
once a month is a long time for no lifers
the arbitrary limit has a reason
Hey folks
theres even a jin-roh helmet coming for HD2
Can I ask for some advice about guns and shit here
yes I know but still
i've reached this point too
except i'm already maxxed on sc for the next content drop
i got fucked
aight guess not
hacker gave me max samples
I gotta wait for devs to sort me out
some servers get pretty snippy about asking questions in the wrong channel so y'know
trying to avoid unpleasantness
nobody really gives a shit here.
Game's a year old and the community treats every channel as #general-chat now
dw the channel is made to ask stuff related to dt in general
we talking about helldivers in zealot chat
I got a bolter with seemingly pretty good stats but idk if it's worth using or even how to use it
blessings?
how are you not able to post the image
just use windows screen snip
just press print scr and paste
you need to get a role probably
I seem to have like 5 already
me asf
yeah blessings have droprates
try to get blessings on the grenade gauntlet and you will almost always get gloryhunter
@frosty heraldat least Monster Hunter Wilds is MHW2
I assume it is but
no garbage hardware like Switch involved
absolutely
is this on veteran or zealot
I don't have that but I guess I can shop around for it
Yeah, just buy a bunch of bolters
spam them to gold
until you get PF tier 4
or tier 3
is shattering impact not good tho
I thought if I was gonna change anything it would be Surgical
It takes 4 shots to get max stacks applied.
cause aiming with the bolter is ass
bolter crits do big dmg
the only things that take more than 4 shots are bosses




