zealot-class

[polar nexus]

taxe is good with scourge

does not kill too fast

[ripe quest]

dw once people discover that the Antax is better at light spam compared to the Rashad we'll begin a new era of PA spam

[fading vale]

define better

[polar nexus]

because of block cancel right?

[ripe quest]

hits more times

[bitter anvil]

Thing shifting kinda fast to me

[spare talon]

pa?

[fading vale]

push attack

[bitter anvil]

Push attack

[polar nexus]

pattack

[ripe quest]

If you're relying on finesse increases the Rashad will still be better by a small bit

but if you're just pumping raw damage and want to hit as many things as possible per second the Antax beats the Rashad

also by a small bit tbf

[fading vale]

I doubt it makes a huge functional difference given the way BM works

[ripe quest]

This is an attack speed thing

it'll proc BM more often

[maiden path]

chat

zealot chat

does this look like a white guy

[fading vale]

looks like a cave man

[quaint verge]

Stan without medication

[polar nexus]

is it because of block cancel? because that's the combo you used in your spreadsheet

[lusty turtle]

[violet hornet]

Stan when forced to eat human food

[lusty turtle]

can we maybe not

[maiden path]

this is not related in any way to politcal issues

[maiden path]

i need confirmation on a head-canon

[fading vale]

but it's also a dumb question

[maiden path]

perhaps.

[polar nexus]

that guy is green

[maiden path]

close enough for me

[ripe quest]

Yeah

[fading vale]

literally nobody is going to block cancel like that

[polar nexus]

i do

[fading vale]

the whole point of caxe is to be as braindead as possible

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[ripe quest]

It's not much different than H1 L2 bc on the Mk II Evis

[fading vale]

yeah and you see that everyone uses the 15

[ripe quest]

Well mayhaps my words are intended for the ears of the non-lazy.

[fading vale]

I've just become bitter over the laziness and trying to fight against it

[zenith trout]

there any good blessings for devils claw that involve consecutive hits?

[polar nexus]

if that were true you would be try harding with a taxe

[fading vale]

what

[polar nexus]

wdym?

[fading vale]

taxe is also boring spam

[zenith trout]

like hitting the same enemy multiple times

[fading vale]

nah

[polar nexus]

it's more engaging than caxe

[fading vale]

shred is the only hit single targets thing, but it's any target

[polar nexus]

shred is per hit

[coarse birch]

sorry cant remember that combo in game

too hard

[fading vale]

well there is wrath

[zenith trout]

I have savage sweep on it

[fading vale]

but you could choose either wrath or savage and I wouldn't call either a boon for single target

[polar nexus]

claw is rampage + shred / savage sweep / skullcrusher

[fading vale]

yeah

[polar nexus]

it depends what you're looking for

[zenith trout]

single target being hit multiple times

[fading vale]

you could go shred/savage for CDR

[bitter anvil]

Does dclaw can cleave 3 target from base?

It feel like cleave is 1

[polar nexus]

you mean without a blessing?

[bitter anvil]

Yeah without savage sweep

[ripe quest]

You'd probs just do Wrath + Rampage/Shred if you specifically want that. Normally people opt for Savage Sweep over Wrath though.

[fading vale]

it's heavies have 9.5 cleave, at least on the mk1 that I just checked

[bitter anvil]

How can you proc rampage when my dclaw only land one target?

[fading vale]

it's lights have 5.4 cleave

[bitter anvil]

I try hit 3 target, but it feel hitting 1

[fading vale]

neither of these are 1 target

and you might be misunderstanding how cleave works

[zenith trout]

this is my current devils claw

[fading vale]

it's not n targets

[bitter anvil]

How much mass for poxwalker?

[fading vale]

uh what are they right now, 1.5?

[zenith trout]

I know the premise I use a momentum thammer, what I want is like

[coarse birch]

1.5 i think

[bitter anvil]

Hmmm

[coarse birch]

i can doubly check

[ripe quest]

If you're hitting a 10 hitmass elite then I could see what you mean but against dreg bruisers and fodder you hit enough cleave to proc Rampage.

[bitter anvil]

4.5 on 3 that’s look enough to cleave through 3

[fading vale]

yes or 6 on the heavy

[bitter anvil]

I think landing armor reduce the cleave through

[fading vale]

well it's 4 on a light and 7 on heavy

[bitter anvil]

Flak bruiser*

[ripe quest]

Outside of +fodder that's solid.

[ripe quest]

1.25 for poxies, 1 for groaners

[fading vale]

how much hitmass do bruisers have again

[zenith trout]

gotcha

[ripe quest]

2.5 for dregs and 3.5 for scab

[bitter anvil]

3.75 for 3 pox

Scab is too hard to cleave through so that make sense

[zenith trout]

I constantly felt like the weapon wasn't doing well

[fading vale]

yeah so any of the claw cleave heavies would hit at least 3 of the bruisers

[bitter anvil]

The Mk1

[zenith trout]

too used to a different playstyle ig

[fading vale]

the claws big value comes from lots of parrys

[ripe quest]

The sweep heavies have higher than 7 cleave, meaning they hit 3 scab bruisers.

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[ripe quest]

The Parry hits the cleave BP as well

[bitter anvil]

Free you say?

[ripe quest]

which is nice

[bitter anvil]

Does parry target attacker only?

[zinc talon]

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[coarse birch]

no it can hit other stuff

[fading vale]

you need to aim it

[ripe quest]

No, any hit you receive while the parry startup is up will just auto attack w/ the parry. It's its own attack that functions like every other attack on a weapon.

[bitter anvil]

So it hit through any target

Even clipping enemy

[ripe quest]

It has 8 cleave, so not every target but it'll hit multiple if you can line up 8 hitmass worth of enemies.

[bitter anvil]

Alright

[lusty turtle]

ye the parry is pgud

although maybe could do with a cooldown

so u can't just spam it

[opal sparrow]

Fun goofy game

[coarse birch]

this is the thing i dont like about it

its very spammable for not the tighest parry window in the world

which does let you get past like rager BS but thats not a great solution to a bad enemy

[polar nexus]

you spam it because there's no period of grace

meaning you will parry kill the rager and get rekt by the other mobs around

[zenith trout]

yup

I back dodge, it kinda helps

[zinc talon]

you've played it? apparently this bundle's got a grab bag of standalone VR combat titles, these were just included

[opal sparrow]

Yea I've played it before

[lusty turtle]

ye they can prob just adjust ragers tho hopefully

[zinc talon]

James Workshop does such a grabass job of cross-advertising all these titles they come out with

[lusty turtle]

🙏

[zinc talon]

the only ads I ever see are for some mobile card game

[lusty turtle]

the things i tell myself to believe the game has a bright future

[zinc talon]

not fully built sister of battle / stormcast melee VR

what BS do ragers have? just knock em over

[delicate shadow]

Cooldowns are iffy on melee weaps, tightening the window would make more sense imo

[polar nexus]

the double attack

[zinc talon]

once they stagger their resistance through drops through the floor, and you can just rinkydink em to death

[opal sparrow]

Dual wielding power swords or bolters and doing some goofy moves is what makes it fun for me

[zinc talon]

you had me at bolter

[opal sparrow]

Otherwise the game is just mid

[zinc talon]

so's every other 40k title, so's the HH novels, it's all glorious schlock

they're finally gettin good on the whole though, which is gonna ruin some people hyping up space marine 2 already

it won't be, the one

and folks gonna feel burnt cuz they hoped/hyped so hard

anyway /soapbox sorry lol

[lusty turtle]

i mean, a parry should have a cooldown, not a long one i literally mean like a half second to a second, but something to stop it being instantaneous spam

[elfin steppe]

[zinc talon]

oh, as it happens

@calm salmon helldivers' next update is going to bring mech suits and multicrew vehicles

and the resources are already in-game currently

nexus has mods up for them

[delicate shadow]

Yea like 0.4 seconds would be enough in combo with a tighter window

[elfin steppe]

not enough disablers, should send another 100 mutants.

[umbral kindle]

damn I would've tossed a grenade

[ripe quest]

It doesn't even include the weapons, whoever made those two probs copied it from someone else.

Also something something widespread distribution of that will lead to some horrendous shit happening if it gets found out.

Until they patch it of course.

[polar nexus]

man i am glad i dled the last version on github yesterday

[merry spade]

Brunt is selling this, good weapon or bad?

[polar nexus]

good

wait for hadron to brick it with dmg to groaners and lacerate

[stable cypress]

Hadron is so ready to desecrate it

[merry spade]

lets see

First consecration

Second consecration...

3rd consecration...

annnd 4th consecration...

mercy kiler 4...

[polar nexus]

carapce is good

i would change both blessings and keep sprint eff

not that sprint eff is good but well, you gotta zoom

fuck hadron >_<

[stable cypress]

I'd swap haymaker for uncanny and sprint for w/e floats your boat

[merry spade]

I would lose the mercy killer tier 4 though

[polar nexus]

it's not that good

[merry spade]

its a tier 4 blessing i didnt have in my book

[polar nexus]

you need the target to bleed to proce it

[merry spade]

If i am going to use a knife on zealot i would probably run a bleed build

[stable cypress]

Yeah and zealot can get bleed off crits

So you don't need shit like laceratr or flesh tearer

[ripe quest]

Mercy Killer -> Uncanny and +Sprint to Flak/Unyielding, could do Maniac due to the lack of a damage 2nd blessing.

[polar nexus]

how do you get bleed?

by criting

oh wait, your target is dead so no bleed

[merry spade]

Theres a talent called "Scourge" that applies 6 bleed stacks on crit

[stable cypress]

Yeah its for things that don't get one shotted anyways lol

[merry spade]

The thing is, I don't normally use a knife-zealot playstyle, as my current main weapon is this bonk-bat here that just sends stuff flying

[elfin steppe]

are you sure it applies 6 stacks

[polar nexus]

you need to not kill your target to proce scourge and yeah it's nowhere near 6 stacks iirc

[elfin steppe]

I kind of feel it applies like 2 stacks.

[merry spade]

I dont remember exactly how many stacks, just that it applied stacks

[polar nexus]

flesh tearer 4 is 8, max stacks is 16

no way scourge is in the same ballpark

yeah 2 stacks

[merry spade]

It doesnt help that the talent itself doest say how many stacks it applies

[polar nexus]

let's not talk about tooltip

this is why nobody takes twbs

[elfin steppe]

2-1

but that bleed stack is nothing you should care about. you only want the crit.

[stable cypress]

Yeah scourge is a crit enabler, not for the bleed stacks themselves

[polar nexus]

as long as you proce it

[merry spade]

I mean, in the event you fail to 1-tap something, it would bleed to death shortly after...

[elfin steppe]

for the knife, it's so easy. you proc any time.

[merry spade]

I am told the knife has a higher crit rate... though i don't know if thats true or not

[polar nexus]

it's true

like the taxe

[modern lintel]

Veteran knife>zealot knife

[polar nexus]

you can check the crit rate in the weapon breakdown

[polar nexus]

in my experience, yeah, i prefer knife on vet

[fading vale]

do you know how little damage bleed does without high stacks and rending

[ripe quest]

iirc it's 2 per proc.

[elfin steppe]

huh? where

[maiden path]

byebye 🗣️

[fading vale]

and even with high stacks the bleed damage isn't impressive for the time required

[merry spade]

Full disclosure, I use this knife on my psyker as a stat-stick, And aside from that i have very little knowledge on the knife playstyle other than "Crits and bleed with lots of zooming"

[polar nexus]

fucl i was thinking about crit bonus modifier on taxe

maybe finesse?

[elfin steppe]

does rampage increase bleed damage

[ripe quest]

The first part is right. Knife is a finesse weapon that specializes in single target. It can hit harder than Caxe due to Uncanny and also Precog + Duellist being absurd together. It brings this ST and has an auxiliary utility of having great dodges.

[stable cypress]

bleed on psyker knife is not ideal

[fading vale]

nice of you to put it lightly

[stable cypress]

ty

mercy killer is fine on zealot and vet b/c they got bleed sources that don't use a valuable blessing slot

psyker wants uncanny and precog or ig riposte

(I mean every knife wants uncanny but w/e)

unless you got really beefy anti carapce from other source lolplasma

[polar nexus]

at that point, use a ds4 😦

[stable cypress]

knife has better dodge, is way better anti armor and its fun to go fast

[ripe quest]

That knife in particular is bad. Finesse isn't a dump, Lacerate (also T3), and you need neither of those perks. Riposte is kinda ok with certain talents in mind but the bottom line is that Uncanny is massively vital to a knife being good at single target.

[stable cypress]

oh wait I have Bad Brain I read that as dc not ds OOPS

idk knife still goes fast

duelling sword doesn't have the same energy as running up with your weenie knife and stabbing a nerd in the head

[fading vale]

mercy killer is kind of stupid cause why are you tryna build for multiple hits

in comparison to what you can get all the time

[ripe quest]

MK is kinda situational since on nearly every elite you can 1-2 shot them without Mercy Killer, MK requires a 1st hit setup to get a buffed 2+ hit. The value pops up with Crushers on Vet kinda and bosses. Executor or even Riposte sometimes will come up more often.

[stable cypress]

yeah thats fair, and wrt to the knife we were talking about it was either flushing mercy + haymaker and keeping sprint efficiency or replacing sprint and 1 blessing

[polar nexus]

i would keep sprint eff and go preco + uncanny

it's not like you won't one shot or 2 shot anything flak

or maniac

[simple salmon]

Question regarding a roll, got a Tigrus Eviscerator with perks +20% damage unarmored, +15% sprint efficiency and Rev it up III and IV Bloodletter blessings, and I feel that roll could potentially be saved, however I don't know much regarding what's great/meta and what's not, so I'd like to ask for some guidance/advice what should I roll for/change. Wish I could post that roll, however I can't due to discord rules I guess (or low discord role)

[stable cypress]

probably flush both the blessings even tho perks aren't ideal, or at least swap rev for savage sweep

[elfin steppe]

I just don't understand why they nerfed the shred, it's already very bad for a T4 blessing, needs five hits to reach max stacks, only 20% crit chance, and reset if you missed an attack.

[nimble fiber]

[median steeple]

fucked up looking rat

[misty ravine]

It's not great but if it's base stats are good, you could change blessings to Rampage+Savage Sweep (MkII) or Rampage+Shred (MkXV)

[maiden path]

chat

what do i play

nvm i know

idk its name

chat whats the rollar blading game

[misty ravine]

And just live with the perks till something better comes along

[simple salmon]

damage 80%
penetration 79%
mobility 78%
cleave 67%
shredder 67%

[bitter anvil]

my knife has no lacerate only rolled with uncanny strike

[misty ravine]

What mark

[simple salmon]

MKXV

[spare talon]

just read a comment that said 5% crit chance is substantial to warrant it being a perk on your weapon

reddit of course, where else

[stable cypress]

have you considered not reading reddit

[misty ravine]

Low Shredder isn't ideal but it's usable till you get a better one

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shaking-radlcies-gif-24378563

[minor sage]

it's not bad on like

3 weapons

lol

[spare talon]

but they were describing it as if it was the best choice on most weapons

[minor sage]

this is why you shouldn't read reddit

[maiden path]

read read it

[polar nexus]

achlys stubber, ciag and laspistol amirite?

[misty ravine]

Arguing with redditors gives me the kind of junky energy I need to start my day. Right now I'm arguing with someone who's convinced that Grendyl has tens of thousands of Rejects to dump on each mission

[maiden path]

why wouldnt he

they are all inmates

gimme like 30 inmates I could probably overrun the whitehouse

[merry spade]

To repeat myself, i use that knife Primarily as a Stat-stick on one of my psyker builds. It's job is "Apply bleed to bosses and let my psyker dodge really far to make space for his other weapon (the surge-staff)", and in that regard, it gets the job done.

I said the full disclosure bit to explain that i dont know much about the knife zealot playstyle

[maiden path]

whens darktide gonna get anniversary events

[bitter anvil]

Bleed knife + scourge

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sega-gif-10727238677934403701

[bitter anvil]

Only kind zealot I have

[merry spade]

I was mid mission, hence why it took a while to see and respond

[bitter anvil]

Well the Chorus toughness reduction is overpowered but what about extra damage boost?

[misty ravine]

Because he doesn't actually have 50k penal troops to dump on some 5 or 6 blocks of hive spire?

[maiden path]

who's to say he doesnt

we wouldnt know

we're fuggin inmates

[misty ravine]

Inmates who know about all the galaxy's current events and half the Inquisition's secret squirrel shit?

[maiden path]

when were they ever told about that

[misty ravine]

I don't fucking know, they shouldn't know these things but they reference them constantly

[maiden path]

no one has told them about the great rift

they get like tidbits

psykers would be the only ones who should know

[minor sage]

most people use the damage boost afaik

the damage reduction is a little bit pointless realistically

[fleet zealot]

TDR on chorus is bad, the onyl thing rn is that chorus itself is bugged

and stopping ranged damage at 0 toughness while the buff persists

damage>>> and makes up for that fact you do 0 dps while chorusing

[maiden path]

erm who's ready for the spawn movie

[bitter anvil]

Do you wish the damage should be power instead?

[merry spade]

They are making another spawn movie?

[maiden path]

a reboot

[spiral anvil]

Chorus should be a rhythm game where you press F with the beat for more boosts

[bitter anvil]

The game would turn into turnbase

[misty ravine]

Plus, the Mourningstar is a frigate class ship with a total crew of around 25k, we would certainly know if there were twice or more that number of former inmates running around. Rannick frets about the waste of a single team of 4 operatives on what's probably a trap. Operatives are always sent in just 4 at a time despite a Valkyrie being able to carry (iirc) 10 non-ogryn people. There is such a surplus of gear to bodies (when it's usually the reverse) that anyone who can use a Plasma Gun, Thunder Hammer, or mother fucking Force Weapon can have one with a minimum of fuss.

[bitter anvil]

Rhythmic turnbase

[misty ravine]

We always deal directly with the same high-ranking members of Rannick's retinue instead of the middlemen that would inevitably exist between the Inquisition's overall leader on Atoma and a force numbering in the tens of thousands or more.

[maiden path]

ah hell nah he pulled out da personal list

i aint bout dat

outlored

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-sundae-gif-25035574

i wish I could be heihachi from tekken 7

toes out fr

just kicking shit with electric powers

[proud scroll]

is this good for a crit build?

wanted to switch my weapon up from knife or evis

[minor sage]

caxe isn't really a crit weapon

so no

you want a wep with better crit scaling

[proud scroll]

whys it worse then evis? with the brutal momentum giving infinite cleave wouldnt that make for many crit

dang 😦

[minor sage]

because every weapon has a crit multiplier

that determines how much extra damage a crit does

[proud scroll]

I mainly am critting for CDR

[minor sage]

for example, you have weapons like ciag that do 2x damage, so 100% extra damage on crit

[proud scroll]

ah ok

i didnt know that

[minor sage]

and you have weapons that do 1.14x, so 14% extra damage on crit, like a shredder for example

[fleet zealot]

it's not infiniite cleave

your oneshots to the head on any enemy will not give you damage fall off, up to 4

and since that is breakpoint based, caxe HEAVILY wants power, not crit

[proud scroll]

gotcha, so its better for momentum?

the goal was to just get crits for CDR, like the eveis build

[misty nova]

did not know that the agitator had lines for killing things with eviscerator

[fleet zealot]

headtaker, decimator, even decapitator

rn you can run hjust about anything with crit cdr cause it's a busted set up

[proud scroll]

but what build wuoold be etter for axe

[fleet zealot]

with 55% crit just from talents alone

[north sedge]

momentum or marty

[fleet zealot]

yes, caxe wants martyrdom or momentum

[proud scroll]

okie!!!

[fading vale]

ugh, burnt by 2 hulks a meter from the pelican 😦

[fading vale]

speaking of hulks you just missed out dough

Stan said "what's the hulks real name? Bert?"

[north sedge]

Look at all the bertamaniacs in here

[fading vale]

Bert Banner

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-lou-ferrigno-flex-rage-muscles-gif-5171778

[ripe quest]

That's like, kinda sad but whatever works for you.

[fleet zealot]

old hulk makes me wonder how they sold the idea of the new hulk

cause old hulk does not look good

[north sedge]

i mean, many years and comics and such

he looked like a doofus in the comics too back then

[fleet zealot]

dude looks like a legally distinct low budget orc

"damn GW did orks and tolkien did orcs, how about we make a "Hulk"

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/japan-toei-marvel-spider-man-hero-gif-18985706

[merry spade]

Me being decent enough with psyker that I can get away with using a crappy knife as nothing more than a glorified stat-stick is sad?

[lusty turtle]

crack open a bepis

[misty nova]

that's not 12 though

[elfin steppe]

[north sedge]

why not just have a good melee weapon

[elfin steppe]

it's been two weeks, I have done two investigation missions.

[fading vale]

I have a solution

do 1 more

[ripe quest]

It's a sad display of weapon utilization. "yes mm this great ST weapon shall be my mobility stick that inflicts negligible DoT damage on bosses for me". You can just like, get an actual knife and all of a sudden you have something valuable in your kit that does both of those things + actually does the thing it's good at.

If you're using it as part of a meme loadout that's fine justification.

or even a speedrunner duo/solo or whatever.

[fading vale]

running that knife and a surge staff is about as zdps as you can make a psyker, which is not gonna work in auric damnation+

you could get some wins but someone on your team is gonna be killing everything

[merry spade]

It's on a specific psyker build that I use Primarily to give my team as much breathing room as possible. On that build the melee weapon doesnt really matter.

As for "if i am using it in a meme loadout", it's not so much a meme loadout as the circumstances by which i got the knife, which is a bit of an inside joke between me and my friends.

[merry spade]

If i am going into auric damnation as psyker, i am not bringing that loadout, im bringing my voidstrike

[fading vale]

fair enough

[little thicket]

I dont actually see the point here in complaining over using knife as a mobility, boss killing tool as psyker

[merry spade]

Neither do I, this whole thing started when i posted a decently statted knife from brunt, got it bricked by hadron, then posted the knife i use on psyker to show that i dont really know much about the dedicated knife zealot playstyle

[little thicket]

So long as all bases are covered by abilities, blitzes, staff choice then knife is a great melee weapon for psyker in this exact scenario.

Knife on zealot, psyker are completely different beasts.

[merry spade]

Which is part of what i was trying to convey

[little thicket]

A zealot is aiming to use the knife as their main tool

A knife is merely an utility tool to the psyker

[merry spade]

for context, this is the knife that i got from brunt when it was grey and subsequently got semi-bricked by hadron

I say "Semi-" bricked because i dont actually know if it was bricked or not, they just said it was bricked

[left iron]

Nah bro, if it works for you it works for you

No need to listen to us

[fading vale]

it's not super bricked if you replace both blessings

the perks are pretty meh but cara does something when you have uncanny strike

[lusty turtle]

I wish mercy killer was useable in some not deranged format

[fading vale]

sprint is just bad relatively given the prevalence of sliding constantly

[lusty turtle]

I like it in theory but in practice its an annoyance

[merry spade]

For all the headache the knife talk has caused me today, i am half tempted to just strip the tier 4 blessing off of it... only reason i got it was because i saw 3 stats that were near 80% in brunts shop and thought "hey, i dont know how much mobility matters on a knife, so I'll ask the discord zealot chat if it's base stats are good or not"

then it devolved into a headache

[fading vale]

the base stats are perfect

we've just had a lot of bad experiences with knives..... and it's happened for over a year

[delicate shadow]

base stats are good, the perks and blessings are iffy

you could rig it up to work well enough though if you got nothing better

[merry spade]

I mean, I have this as my current main melee weapon on zealot

Bonk goes brrr

[delicate shadow]

that's smexy

but yea I meant like, if you really wanna knife but don't have a better knife

[lusty turtle]

Id rather use a gray crusher instead of a knife

[ripe quest]

So like, instead of providing breathing room for your allies by making your knife a boss/elite killer (or even just using a different weapon), you're making your melee slot dedicated to mobility for yourself? My problem with your knife lies with you intentionally gimping it under the premise of "the slot doesn't matter".

[ripe quest]

It isn't even a boss tool, have you seen the knife?

[little thicket]

Yes

What are you comparing it to?

[fleet zealot]

the one clip of someone doing the mk3 combo on a monsto (on zealot) somehow poisoned the minds of psykers

psyker has DS4 and deimos

[ripe quest]

I'm comparing it to oh I don't know, a +Unyielding +Whatever w/ Uncanny + Precog/Flesh Tearer if you're looking for specifically bosses. Hell even just a Riposte + Flesh Tearer with +Unyielding would provide way better results than that knife.

Tell me how this looks like a boss killing knife

genuinely

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shy-shy-dog-oops-sorry-doggy-gif-23719967

[little thicket]

It can certainly be optimized

[fleet zealot]

blessings are bricked

[little thicket]

Sprint efficiency is unnesscerary

[fleet zealot]

for true boss killing you;d want like, precog+uncanny

[little thicket]

Psyker with sprint slides wont drain enough stamina to need the sprint efficiency

[fleet zealot]

or precog executioner

[little thicket]

Its already therotically infinite

[fleet zealot]

sliding doesn't drain stamina at all

[merry spade]

If i wanted to use my melee weapon to be a dedicated boss/elite killer, i would use the Diemos, or the DS4, as, on PSYKER those are better for elite killing by a wide margin.

The secondary reason for using the knife in the melee slot (aside from a glorified stat stick), as i said, is because it's part of an inside joke between me and my friends.

[maiden path]

thems is not no damn pepsi cans

get them the fuck outta THERE

[fleet zealot]

it's a pepsi business

[maiden path]

they dont have a permit

[fleet zealot]

snitch

[maiden path]

choose ur next excuse carefully...

[fleet zealot]

bootlicker

scab

[maiden path]

im calling the police

and the irs

get fucked

[fleet zealot]

repeat the above 3

[maiden path]

🖕

no untaxxed revenue I dont care if your a ferret\

[quasi marsh]

Honestly I can understand what you mean but why riposte and not like Haymaker or something then

I don't think riposte is going to make that knife do respectable damage

Might as well go for the instakill memes

[merry spade]

The knife was a mission reward with those blessings already on it, I just changed the perks as part of the inside joke.

[quasi marsh]

Since you're rapidly bodyshotting

O fair I guess

[fading vale]

I know what we need

[ripe quest]

I've already said that if it was a meme loadout, then that'd be fine justification. There's no justification for using that setup on the knife outside of that, which for whatever reason you keep arguing that there is one. That's all there is to it.

[calm salmon]

noice

[coarse birch]

STEVE

[ripe quest]

I've used some prime dumpster weapons myself as a meme, I get the fun behind running that and having a laugh with friends. It's not helping your build in any meaningful way, and can just be like, improved on.

[ripe quest]

Nexus doesn't have all of them up. Happy to show them in non-public channels for rule reasons.

That mod in particular on Nexus was 100% a lazy copy-paste and doesn't have any brainpower behind it.

[quasi marsh]

Haymaker lacerate mk6

Spam heavy bodyshots all day

[sharp zodiac]

Hnnhaymaker

[frozen glen]

shut up

[sharp zodiac]

Wow

[coarse birch]

damn

[sharp zodiac]

So much for the tolerant left

[frozen glen]

even the leftists wont tolerate FRENCH

[fading vale]

wanna see what Steve does if I switch to laying on my side

[left iron]

[coarse birch]

yes

[sharp zodiac]

Absolutely

[frozen glen]

i just wanna see steve period

[coarse birch]

you do not need to ask if we want to see steve

[sharp zodiac]

Time for some hell let loose

[ripe quest]

Willing to bet he'll do something that is totally standard for Steve.

[maiden path]

i love the french!

:french:

[sharp zodiac]

I hope hell isn't let loose

Im quitting I'd rather be a German than a British man

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-papas-pizzeria-papas-freezeria-memes2022funny-gif-25861802

[sharp zodiac]

I can't swap teams fuck

[maiden path]

erm certified juicers in chat?

[merry spade]

The context is a lot more complicated, but to sum it up, it was a mission reward i got from a mission where me and my ogryn friend were forced to carry a pair of loner-stealth-zealots (one of whom just straight up had no clue how to actually play stealth zealot, and the other randomly had a grudge against our ogryn after he picked up a grenade before they could) through a damnation mission.

The knife, hilariously, is a direct upgrade in every stat compared to the knives they used (their knives were in the ballpark of a 310 base stat rating) with the blessings being exactly what the apparent newbie kept saying he was hoping to roll.

[sharp zodiac]

I juiced a goose

Does that count

[coarse birch]

you what

[maiden path]

how do u juice a goose

keep ur hands off its weiner

[sharp zodiac]

NO

Not like that

[maiden path]

keep ur hands where we can see em pal

[fading vale]

on my arm and pillow, hard to see, though

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/micolash-bloodborne-gif-18383569946884513996

[coarse birch]

good steve

[sharp zodiac]

Steve

[frozen glen]

spectacular

[fading vale]

I can pet his belly and he curls harder

[calm salmon]

sbeve

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/acces-denied-no-nope-nah-headshot-gif-10481869666719359459

me when i see steve

[fading vale]

Go drink more

[zealous basin]

:(

im just petting him...

[maiden path]

me fighting off the neighbors doberman while im krunk off 30 miller lite

[zealous basin]

[maiden path]

erm dead chat

[sharp zodiac]

Damn artillery

[maiden path]

roombling roombling

where my aot fans at

https://tenor.com/view/reiner-reiner-braun-aot-attack-on-titan-shingeki-no-kyojin-gif-4212495892073344940

who up getting qbittorrent updates

[bitter anvil]

I have no lacerate blessing 😭

But only uncanny strike and riposte

[merry spade]

My sibling in service of the emperor, at no point did i say it was anywhere near being an optimal weapon. I straight up admitted it was a crappy knife, and that because it was crappy, i didn't use it as a weapon, but a glorified stat-stick.

You then went into a lecture about it being a "sad display of weapon utilization" unless it was part of a meme build. I said it was part of an inside joke as to why i used it, and it was slapped onto a build that doesnt really need it's melee all that much. You then went and all but called me a moron with that "intentionally gimping myself because the weapon slot doesnt matter" bit (my guy, wtf). Now say that I am trying to argue that there's any other reason to use the knife?

There MUST have been a major miscommunication somewhere.

[fleet zealot]

krunk

[bitter anvil]

I try run crits and scourge node knife it went well to spam the Chorus

[ivory marlin]

bazinga

[drowsy steppe]

hello Gale

[ivory marlin]

hi Mal

i realized today i could have had a car if i didnt buy all those mtg cards

and warhammer

but oh well

cant stop me now

[drowsy steppe]

I say you made a good investment

[ivory marlin]

thank you

[drowsy steppe]

Cards don't need to be maintained

[ivory marlin]

true

im glad you are on my side with this

[frozen glen]

cars are great

vroom vroom

[drowsy steppe]

That's me

Your source of validation

❤️

[calm salmon]

real

[ivory marlin]

thank you

[ivory marlin]

i realized that

and im running hella low on money so i am getting new job

my interview is on friday

[frozen glen]

flirt with the interviewer

thatll get you hired immediately

[left iron]

[ivory marlin]

isnt wendys homophobic tho

id have to lie about my sexuality

not the first time i needed to for a job

[zenith trout]

recommended best tact axe?

which mk

[ivory marlin]

isnt tax still ass?

@ripe quest

wake up now you are the only one i know who knows stuff

[zenith trout]

I just spectated someone doing really good with it

[ripe quest]

It requires some effort but the Mk II will be the most consistently potent Taxe.

It's kinda just a worse Caxe rn.

With better finesse scaling.

[drowsy steppe]

Apply for a job at popeyes

[zenith trout]

thinking of switching the devils claw, as good as it is it doesn't feel as effecient or fast as I want

[drowsy steppe]

Not only will you get an employment

[ivory marlin]

none within walking distence

but id love to

[drowsy steppe]

Youre gonna learn some survival skills too

[ivory marlin]

ima just work at wendys till i can get a car

then maybe pick up another job

adulting hard

[ripe quest]

If you're looking for the Dclaw vibe a Mk IV Chainsword hits those notes. Has absurd crowd damage.

[ivory marlin]

i still havent filed my taxes

[drowsy steppe]

I'm not a snitch

[zenith trout]

a big issue I have with it is the attack speed, even with my build it does get fast at low health

[ivory marlin]

dont i need to soon tho

like end of this month soon

[zenith trout]

but it just isn't feeling fast enough, plus I personally dont land my parries often

is there a c axe that's relatively fast?

[inner cargo]

Yo fellas, is this the first time melk gives a good revolver?

I mean

Is it a good revolver

[zealous basin]

bro i cant fuckin read that

ur скорость перезарядки is shit tho

[inner cargo]

It's flak and infested damage along with surgical 3 and Terrifying barrage 4

[inner cargo]

Isn't it one of dump stats tho

[zealous basin]

i dont know what скорость перезарядки is

isnt that reload

only mobility is dump stat

swap infested to maniac and terrifying to hand cannon and its fine

[inner cargo]

Yes it is

[drowsy steppe]

Hard to tell in Russian and without me in game to compare it

😭

[zealous basin]

i can read russian i just dont wanna

[maiden path]

guys

mcdonald started giving out bitcoin for kids gifts

[zealous basin]

i love bitcoin its so fucking funny

[maiden path]

certified coin head

[zealous basin]

have u ever tried to use bitcoin as currency

i know most people havent idk why they would

[maiden path]

no

we're not bitheads

ur the coinhead

[proud remnant]

Can't send a picture, but I wanted to hear someones thoughts about this

I have a evicerator with the following stats:

Damage 74
Penetration 74
Mobility 77
Cleave targets 67
Shredder 64

With the following perks:
+10 Melee critical hit damage (locked)
+25% Damage (Carapace armored enemies)

With these blessings:
Wrath T3
Shred T4 (locked)

I'm thinking of changing carapace to flak and I cant decide if wrath was a good choice on this

[zealous basin]

no bro i just wanted drugs

bitcoin is the worst currency of all time

its so shit

but its hilarious

[modern lintel]

Theirs a fuckin bitcoin atm at some gas station near me bit odd

[maiden path]

clearly ur a ceritifed bithead

[sharp zodiac]

More like

Bitchhead

[delicate shadow]

swap melee crit to flak if you want flak

oh it's locked

nvm

uhhhh

[maiden path]

get that fucking beast off my screen

[sharp zodiac]

What the fuck did that cat do to you

[delicate shadow]

yeah idk man that's a touch bircked lol but yea you can swap carapace and then swap wrath for something else

[maiden path]

dont worry about it

deep lore./.

[delicate shadow]

if you want cleave savage sweep is the better option

[sharp zodiac]

Beb beb lore part
1 out of 2057

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-crying-anime-gif-9027702

[proud remnant]

I had perfect strike last now but I feel like my attacks are a little under powered

[drowsy steppe]

My ruski friend hates it when I try to read Russian

[sharp zodiac]

Do it more

Fill their brim with rage

[delicate shadow]

braging

[sharp zodiac]

Uh oh something just snapped on my headphones

I fear to check

[zealous basin]

ow my tibia

[sharp zodiac]

Oh it just snapped into place

Nvm

Finally

Shits been locked ever since my older brother put his entire body weight on me

[maiden path]

what the child at the zoo see's when I free all my monkey compatriots

[sharp zodiac]

Do not free those monkeys

They need to stay in the zoo otherwise they'll wreak havoc

We don't want a planet of the apes

Except for you

[hushed knoll]

Can cake wear socks

[sharp zodiac]

Stuff individual cake pieces into a sock

[zealous basin]

okay its deceive inc time

for real

whos playing

ill buy it for u

[sharp zodiac]

And then get more socks

[delicate shadow]

it could

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-caesar-andy-serkis-pissed-off-gif-8491139

[sharp zodiac]

Deceive inc?

[zealous basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529800752911351809/1213382803513675796/Deceive_Inc._2024.03.01_-_22.09.39.23.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=65f545cb&is=65e2d0cb&hm=402d1fe4407f847e3a7eb490224451d5857071824817b549a0436b0211726bc5&

deceive inc

[delicate shadow]

lying org.

dishonest ltd

[sharp zodiac]

Oh I see

[zealous basin]

really really good criminally slept on game...

[hushed knoll]

NO WHAT THE FUCK

[sharp zodiac]

I think I remember seeing that game a while back

[zealous basin]

its so good and its only gotten better

[hushed knoll]

YOU’VE RUINED EVERYTHING

[sharp zodiac]

Either my lil bro played it or I saw a guy playing it while talking about some drama

[left iron]

[sharp zodiac]

Regardless it was quite fun

[zealous basin]

they did a free weekend so there are still people playing it

so im gettin my fix in

cuz this game fuckin OWNS

[sharp zodiac]

Nice

[delicate shadow]

you fear the truth

[proud remnant]

What about rampage will that make it any better? hahaha

[delicate shadow]

oh yea rampage is a good idea

defo go rampage lol

[proud remnant]

Aite thanks

[maiden path]

does anyone know if U can port ps save data to pc

with a usb

[delicate shadow]

I somehow totally forgot about that one

[maiden path]

i wanna transfer my sekiro save data to pc

[sharp zodiac]

Hack the game

[delicate shadow]

uhhhh

I sincerely doubt you can but you can try I suppose

[maiden path]

im not homebrewing my fucking ps4

[sharp zodiac]

Become a wizard

[maiden path]

i use it./.......

[sharp zodiac]

I cast fireball

[maiden path]

dodges

[sharp zodiac]

What the fuck

My life is over

[maiden path]

redirects fireball and fucking explodes ur head

[hushed knoll]

😒

[zealous basin]

explosive prostate fragmentation blast

[drowsy steppe]

Hey look bully maguire

[zealous basin]

https://vxtwitter.com/SingNO22/status/1756710586392482300

look at this

[ivory marlin]

holy shit its flip

hi flip

[drowsy steppe]

The cat looks familiar

[ivory marlin]

cat blind

[zealous basin]

i love big boobs so much when i look at this video i cry

[ivory marlin]

💀

[frozen glen]

hell yeah big boobs

or maxwell

[maiden path]

where my joey fans at

[drowsy turtle]

Big honker bonkers

[patent patrol]

Just saw a Veteran using an axe. Had no clue they could do that lmao

[ivory marlin]

guys will the day come where stan ruins my name

i hope its on my birthday

[drowsy turtle]

level 1, rashad mk ii combat axe

[fleet zealot]

yee they always had access to combat axes

[inner cargo]

Two evis with dump mobility stat, which should I take?

[ivory marlin]

guys

big problem

[maiden path]

what

[ivory marlin]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-set/fallout/

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah so the Snapp in my headphones

[ivory marlin]

im gonna have money soon

[sharp zodiac]

That was my headphones about to break off

[ivory marlin]

oh shit

[sharp zodiac]

But I taped it up just before it came apart

Thankfully

Tho this headache I'm not sure came from the stress of not waking anyone up or the headphones

I think it's the latter

[fleet zealot]

they are practically the same

[sharp zodiac]

Anyways wanna see my reunited reptilian

[fleet zealot]

just get both

crafting will brick one anyways

[inner cargo]

Hadron the blessed slot machine

[fleet zealot]

left is marginally better?

by 3 damage

but that isn't meaningful

[inner cargo]

Btw what ranged you'd suggest to use with IH thammer

[fleet zealot]

anything that is good at special/elite/shooter stopping

zarona revolver, mk3 headhunter, IAGs, brautos if you can handle tap firing at longer ranged, las pistol

i'd lean towards a revolver or las pistol just to help with the hammer being usually on the slow side

[maiden path]

caht do i download dis mod

[sharp zodiac]

Yes

[inner cargo]

I've actually got a good revolver

I'll use it

[patent patrol]

I just pulled off a hero moment with Zealot lol. Our Psyker died right before we got to extract since everyone else didn't notice he was down (I did but I was too far and basically having to one man army a horde to get to him so I was getting delayed) so I went back, rescued him and left with him.

Felt good to be the only one to go back and do that

rest of the team waited at extraction

[maiden path]

ok i trust u

[sharp zodiac]

Good

[maiden path]

chat does this guy look trustworthy

[sharp zodiac]

Kinda

I'd say 50/50

[maiden path]

ok what about now

[sharp zodiac]

Santa Clause..

[arctic fiber]

Is one make of the eviscerator preferred?

[ripe quest]

Mk II is better for crowd damage and the Mk XV can hit single targets harder.

It's up to which you'd like in your kit, Mk II being a generalist weapon and the XV being a single target leaning.

[arctic fiber]

Thanks!

[ivory marlin]

guys even worse news

i just found out junji ito did some art for mtg cards

i need to get those too now

[ivory marlin]

so real

[ivory marlin]

how many ferrets do you own dear ferret owner?

[ripe quest]

It's a single weasel but it's really good at cosplaying.

[fleet zealot]

0

[ivory marlin]

ah i see

[fleet zealot]

hate to drop that agian but i have 0 ferrets, my living situation would not be good

[ripe quest]

World shattering knowledge.

Really wanting a pet but knowing that you couldn't provide them a viable home.

[fleet zealot]

i simply borrow ferret pictures i find online through various social medias

yee. and ferrrets are a lot of work

gotta ferret proof everything

and then ferret proof em more when they show you all your design flaws

they need constant socialization when awake so you have to get at least 2 so they can do ferret things with eachother

[ivory marlin]

ah i see

stressful

[stable cypress]

Reporting you to the inquisition for ferret appropriation

[maiden path]

a ferret pushed my mama off a cliff

like 101 dalmations

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/rowan-rowan-sable-sable-gif-23376876

[maiden path]

but i dotn got a coat of their fur cause there like protected by the govermernt

[fleet zealot]

ur mom deserved it (probably)

[maiden path]

no

those ferrets deserved it!

!!!

i gave them 2 the zoo........

[fleet zealot]

blackfooted ferrets are so cool

domestic ferrets are cool and good pets

[maiden path]

blackfooted cause they stepped in doodo

doodoo

nasty ass animals

[fleet zealot]

but it's equal parts heartwarming and depressing

knowing at one point they were extinct until we found a few in some nowhere places

[ivory marlin]

i need more lizards

when im older ima own a herd of armadilo lizards

[fleet zealot]

we successfully cloned a black footed ferret so that's cool but they are still endangered

[maiden path]

orangutangs

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bearded-dragon-gif-26282393

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/alaynakitty-gif-24005497

[ivory marlin]

exactly

[fleet zealot]

amphibians, mammals, and now reptiles

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-dramatic-toy-fall-over-fall-off-gif-17714939

orangutangs can get an iq of 70

smart ass monkey

[fleet zealot]

when we gonna collect the mollusk/shellfish poster

[ivory marlin]

my iq is less then that

[maiden path]

my iq is on average of that

certified orangutang brain

[ivory marlin]

real

[maiden path]

being a child is thinking young guys doing cool shit is cool

grwing up is realising old dudes doing cool guy shit is cool

er

where my sekiro fans at

i love that game

i think more then ds3...

once again i am the sole man playing sekiro..

[ivory marlin]

never touched it

ima be real

[maiden path]

it fun...

but difficult...

once u beat ur first fromsoft game u cant put em down...

[ivory marlin]

i rarely play souls like

i have dark souls 3

[maiden path]

erm now finish it

[ivory marlin]

i got past the tutorial boss i think

so i havent made much progress

[inner cargo]

@fleet zealot remember how you said Hadron will brick the eviscerators?

So uh

Hardon gave me both shred and rampage for free

[fleet zealot]

Huh

Gj

I rolled my first hammer perfectly

Thrust+slaught both 4

[inner cargo]

It's flak/maniac like always ye?

[fleet zealot]

Made some people made

Yeesh

[inner cargo]

Man I got lucky as fuck

[maiden path]

why didnt u keep playing pal..

[fleet zealot]

You can slot in carapace i believe, maybe unyielding i sont rmember

[maiden path]

u a quitter or something

[fleet zealot]

But flakiac is always good

[polar nexus]

iirc correctly evis do a shit ton of dmg to maniacsa

i would go elite (ragers, crushers and other)

[inner cargo]

Either way I can swap perks for any other perk just because I got blessings

[ivory marlin]

hard

[polar nexus]

or unyielding

[ivory marlin]

:(

[maiden path]

not dat hard

[ivory marlin]

im a very small brained gamer

[maiden path]

true

[elfin steppe]

wait, I think I just reached the upper limit of money, you can't get more than 25000000

[median steeple]

trying to get a good Ironhelm

it sucks

[polar nexus]

I could have told you that months ago

500k is not the limit for plasteel tho\

i wonder what is the exact number

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/cerebus-cerebus-dog-greek-mythology-greek-cerebus-gif-15364582

[blissful tendon]

worth grabbing or nah

[left iron]

Yeah, blessings are what you want on it already, stats are good. Just needs the perks changed

[stable cypress]

sure, can just swap perks out

[delicate shadow]

it's not a lacerate knife tho

[blissful tendon]

what do they get changed out for

ol reliable flak maniac or is there another i should be considering

[delicate shadow]

pretty sure flakiac yea

[ember yew]

wasn't it 999.999?

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-man-in-wall-warframe-gif-24269482

me showing up to post big boob gifs and then leave

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1208297456849264692/uni_fnaf.gif

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/minuet-cat-unicouniuni-cat-meme-colon-three-blehhh-gif-11783032276175262475

[ember yew]

bullying

[zenith fog]

hi, does the bolter feel shit in comparison to the revolver, or am i just not using my throwing knifes well enough ^^

i appreciate the "unload this into the 9 crushers in front of you" angle, but muscle memory making me try to quickswap to the revolver for the webber 3meters in front of me, and getting webbed, feels bad

[left iron]

Revolver is very OP right now,and bolter has some clear downsides unlike the revolver

[zenith fog]

that small animation after swapping "grrr"

[left iron]

11am maelstrom moment

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-narcos-sad-alone-gif-13910246

[inner cargo]

What are good perks/blessings on tultolsky 9?

[fading vale]

flak/maniac, headtaker/deathblow

rampage + headtaker is also solid just not as good

[inner cargo]

I see

[zenith fog]

ok serious real no meme question:

when i played pyker i was the goodest "be with the team boy" ever
but when i play zealot, idk if its that im naturally faster, or zealot autism infecting me, but how do you "not" get way ahead of your group if you charge and melee shit constantly

do you just need to periodically take a breather turn around and reload even though you could keep going?

[fading vale]

first question is what difficulty are you playing

[zenith fog]

lvl 4 with extra difficulty mods, zealot is realtively fresh so im not stepping into damnation just yet

[fading vale]

usually zealot is the first one to engage

and I'd say maybe 15-30m ahead of the team at times, but never supposed to be one of those that's rooms ahead and dies alone

[zenith fog]

yeah it just flows very fast from engagement to engagement, you see the next pack of gunners, and instead of giving them the time to start shooting and take cover, i want to press charge and cleave them quickly, do that 2-3 times and im rooms ahead

[fading vale]

at a high level nobody really cares about sticking close to teammates or coherency outside of specific situations, and if people are playing very slowly then that is their issue

every class can go fast

[zenith fog]

maybe its the difficulty too that makes it too easy for me to get ahead too fast. if there are more maulers or shieldboys that naturally slows me down

[fading vale]

if you are genuinely killing everything and your team isn't swarmed by specials and elites then yeah

[zenith fog]

or its the evis/charge combo that makes non carapace targets now slow me enough

[carmine owl]

eh as long as you arent going down or going invis sending hordes on teammates you are doing fine imo

[fading vale]

also regular damnation is pretty much considered easy mode now so

[zenith fog]

it is

[fading vale]

TLDR try not to create issues for your team but it doesn't really matter unless it's auric damnation+

[zenith fog]

i am, but sometimes i fuck up a dog dodge and 3 people in chat 50m behind are mad at me

ok, so basically, my issue isnt an issue once the difficulty becomes high enough

[fading vale]

and what is your team doing at the time

[zenith fog]

sometimes being very slow for no real reason, on those difficulties

[fading vale]

are you also grabbing materials

[zenith fog]

yes

[fading vale]

yeah it's very common for pub players to just be too slow

[zenith fog]

i do run sprint efficiency and +3 stam

[fading vale]

they like to fight poxwalker spawns

oh, can't say I recommend that really but on heresy it doesn't matter so much

[zenith fog]

i like that too, i just do it on the move

[zenith fog]

the Sprint efficiency or +3 stam?

[fading vale]

well they stay in the back and fight the poxwalkers coming from behind which is never the correct choice

[fading vale]

either

[zenith fog]

oh whats recommended?
double toughness one health CDR and damage resists?

sry longtime psyker new to zealot

[quaint verge]

[fading vale]

either 3 toughness or 2 toughness 1 HP with toughness health and gunner resist is the go to default

1 sniper resist is fine

or a corruption resist or two

or ordo dockets

zealot needs no help with stam and you should also be constantly sliding

[carmine owl]

im greedy and run all ordo

[fading vale]

I do too

[carmine owl]

i think general rule of thumb is more hp if new and learning, get toughness as you get better/more comfortable not going down as much

[heady hornet]

Hi guys. Can anyone give me explanation why Riposte is good in any toher class but zealot? I just dont get it .. +20% crit chance for a Crit/ bleed knife seems good to me ...

any other*

[carmine owl]

i just swapped to psyker to learn

and i enjoy psyker crit build with it

[fading vale]

do you mean why isn't riposte preferred?

[heady hornet]

yea

[fading vale]

because you already get 75% crit chance without it

and precog is very good

and you always take uncanny strike

if you aren't running piety then you could argue for riposte

[ember yew]

yeah

momentum build with CDR

and riposte is amazing there

[bitter anvil]

What’s that means 75% come from?

[ember yew]

basically a piety (just 20% instead of 25%)

[ember yew]

base crit chance + piety + scourge

[bitter anvil]

I see

I would double it up

put riposte in it

[fading vale]

I mean it's not bad to take or anything, just not optimal

[bitter anvil]

Maximum CDR

Then I can spam chorus

[fading vale]

but if you were doing max CDR you wouldn't use a knife

[bitter anvil]

I did

Are you saying run devil claw with shred?

[fading vale]

it is the slowest CDR of anything with crit

the best would be a 1h chainsword

[oak ermine]

Chainsword or Eviscerator would probably be the best

[fading vale]

with shred and savage or shred rampage

[bitter anvil]

Sadly I don’t have shred on Eviscerator

[fading vale]

but a claw with shred would work, or evis

[ashen pecan]

shred perfect strike is goated

[bitter anvil]

I already try make enemy bleed with scourge

Like doesn’t do killing but get crits proc constantly

[fading vale]

scourge is not for bleed, it's for 30% crit

[bitter anvil]

That’s what I want

Yeah

Run tier 3 riposte I get 47.5 crits chance

[hallow latch]

I love playing as zealot cutting down heretics left and right!!

[bitter anvil]

Don’t have tier 4

[fading vale]

the knife has a total base crit of like 20% IIRC

with the stat maxed

[heady hornet]

Does bleed scales to the base damage or to the damage given to the mob with the current shot? (ex. does crit grants more bleed damage than non -crit (ex. with Lacerate?)

[bitter anvil]

You sure? I never heard knife had high crits base chance

[fading vale]

yes

[ashen pecan]

it has high base chance

[fading vale]

no

[ashen pecan]

that's a huge factor in so manyp eople running it outside of the timescaling stuff

[fading vale]

bleed does low damage

[bitter anvil]

Which is I don’t have lacerate to get proc of scourge

[oak ermine]

Bleed has its own damage values, irrelevant to the weapon that inflicted it

[bitter anvil]

Does devil claw can do backstab?

[fading vale]

do you mean would you run stealth with a claw?

[bitter anvil]

No

[fading vale]

every weapon can backstab

[bitter anvil]

Neato

[oak ermine]

Any weapon can benefit from backstab damage, if you have allocated the skill for it

[bitter anvil]

I have like 20% damage backstab from talent node

[fading vale]

knife is the only weapon with inherent backstab damage

[bitter anvil]

Well knife did make me go faster by collecting plasteel

I alway wandering off looking plasteel

[carmine owl]

honestly i would just say find what works for you, and tweak it as you go

[bitter anvil]

Hmmm would I switch riposte to recog?

20% base crits chance for knife

[carmine owl]

first off what role in the team are you wanting to fill?

[bitter anvil]

They are pubbies

Ofc I find random roles

[carmine owl]

right..but pick something you want, and become good at it

[bitter anvil]

Not all them do collection plasteel

Well my role on build just spam chorus

Like get ability back when in heat fight

Cdr just too fun

[heady hornet]

Wait so....bleed is not as good as people say it is ? 😮

[ashen pecan]

all stacking dots are good with rending

[carmine owl]

imo i run bleed for fast attacking weapons for horde clear and boss dmg

[fading vale]

bleed is OK if you have uncanny + flesh tearer but outside of that it's bad

it is nowhere near as good as reddit or youtube likes to think

[bitter anvil]

I have uncanny and riposte

[ashen pecan]

bleed is really just a vehicle for scourge

[carmine owl]

so lasagna. you said you are running the dash right?

[bitter anvil]

Is tier 3 😔

[bitter anvil]

Dash for plasteel

And spam for chorus

[ember yew]

uncanny is maxed at tier 3 and riposte only lose 2.5% critchance

[bitter anvil]

Correct

I want tier 4 so I can maximum the crits chance

[ashen pecan]

you still get more damage for higher uncanny, unless they changed it after the rending rework

[carmine owl]

you run dash just for plasteel? to scout ahead?

[bitter anvil]

Yeah

I wandering off sometime

[fading vale]

total rending got capped to 100%

[bitter anvil]

When I see plasteel or diamantine

[carmine owl]

then why not run knife? its faster overall for that sort of thing

[ashen pecan]

in that same announcement they said rending beyond 100% would be transferred to damage increase at a ratio of iirc 4:1

[bitter anvil]

I did say I run knife.

Or Are you telling me play weapon what work for me?