#zealot-class

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lusty turtle
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which, ye VT had modded difficulties n stuff so it was more cattered towards his style

frank night
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general chat is just digital rabies

rocky marsh
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in a sense, maybe nobody is fuming because lazorr is typing

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🐭

ember yew
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Roguelike mode in VT2 is really amazing though

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its the best patch they ever made for the game

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i stopped played original mode and maps entirely

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a bit long though

fading vale
ember yew
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for one session

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DT2 does not have anything like this yet

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
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imagine the random weapon you get is based off your stash

ember yew
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and that was a free update too (the actual paid DLC Winds of Magic was bad tho, aimed at 4ppl premades and pretty much impossible to pug due to it's structure)

rocky marsh
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so people would start to NOT scrap their shit weapons

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and scrap their high level but shit weapons

fading vale
lusty turtle
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very based

rocky marsh
fading vale
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their builds, weapons, mindset about the game etc

fading vale
ember yew
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i still cant figure out the mindset at what a random person consider rushing

safe tusk
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Not killing every single enemy

frank night
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the usual stuff is someone posts, the regulars see it as an ask for advice and tell them what's more efficient and then the first guy has a meltdown

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if I see the words 'it works for me' I know the mental breakdown is imminent

rocky marsh
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i haven't really met anyone that was totally off based
the worst one i saw was when someone said crit spam > martyr
But i was talking about caxe, he admitted he don't know about caxe thresholds.

But i feel in general he prob got a point, crit spam is prob more reliable than martyr, at least for weapons that scale good with crit

Like theres some logic behind it.

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itsn ot just total stubbornness

fading vale
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and not a single one of them ever goes: I see your point but I find this fun

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they just giga rage

quasi marsh
frank night
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there's a weird amount of ppl who really take it personally when they're told that they have not found the secret best in game ninja jutsu technique

rocky marsh
lusty turtle
quasi marsh
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so they fall back to "well I find it works well enough and its fun to me"

lusty turtle
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but im also old and rusty so thats probably more my fault

frank night
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and also that the game is not hard enough nor the weapons complex enough that 'you just need to learn it' is a thing that suddenly makes something OP

fading vale
rocky marsh
lusty turtle
frank night
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the 'complex' weapons are just when fatshark makes jank ass combos and weird animations

fading vale
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lol has he been playing ogryn

frank night
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racism

frank night
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the crusher was made when the crack rocks got stuck in the developers' nose holes

lusty turtle
rocky marsh
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kinda sad i live in SEA so i would never be able to play with the regulars here

fading vale
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josho on ogryn is a mind numbing experience

rocky marsh
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i tried it once with agent chaos and

lusty turtle
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one match was ogryn josho and assail voidstrike yoshi

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🥹

rocky marsh
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i did not shoot a single void on target

fading vale
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I literally barelled josho off the map so the rest of us could play the game

rocky marsh
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bastard

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were you just waiting for josho to walk

lusty turtle
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oh ye no i'm EU so i also get shit connection to the regulars here

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still fun

rocky marsh
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when i was playing shield gryn

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i gave up and just walked.

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never ran

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the whole team wait for me

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i felt pretty

fading vale
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it was on hab dreyko where you have the 2 levels after the longer staircase and there's a barrel under the following stairs

rocky marsh
fading vale
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followed by the dropdown

rocky marsh
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all these emotions at once

fading vale
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do NOT let josho use a rumbler

rocky marsh
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why

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he spam it into horde

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then no more horde?

fading vale
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spams it the entire game into everything and vacuums all the ammo

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lol

rocky marsh
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but its effective right, peak pub orgyn

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see horde, 2-4 shots of rumbler

fading vale
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it's also incredibly painful WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING GETS KNOCKED AROUND

rocky marsh
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ok gone, no more fun for u ty

fading vale
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I would like to play the game please

rocky marsh
fading vale
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idk

rocky marsh
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i shold join u guys after my semester

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get a rumbler

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and then be the second ogryn

quasi marsh
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ogryn walks through you to block the shot you would have killed the enemy with, then charges into them to knock them behind cover

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the classic

fading vale
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it's more that ogryns are really bad at using the charge

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like it's so strong

quasi marsh
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oh yeah, not saying the charge is bad

fading vale
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but I fucking guarantee you THAT EVERY TIME I PLAY WITH A PUB OGRYN

quasi marsh
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but ogryn is literally the only class i usually just kinda sigh when I see them in pug

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cause i know i have to play around them

fading vale
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they will charge the singular bulwark I'm about to hammer special

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every fucking time

quasi marsh
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and by play around them

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i mean just try to outrun them

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so i can enjoy the game

fading vale
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"making a path" is nightmare stuff to me

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oh thank you for splitting the groaners horde in half

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amazing

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those 15 elites though? too scary

ember yew
fading vale
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like I get that this is a hard game

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but Jesus christ it's not that hard

ember yew
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its definitely much easier than Cataclysm difficulty of VT2 (that's just bad damage/hp values)

fading vale
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I just really don't have context for VT2 difficulty cause everything I read about it is uh.... lul spam lul temp health and win

jagged aspen
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I'd take a bad ogryn over bad anything else

fading vale
jagged aspen
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That's a good zealot

fading vale
ember yew
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that run ahead and die from a dog like a dog

lusty turtle
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so lots of health on high diff

fading vale
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so just kind of annoying scaling?

ember yew
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it also fck up the breakpoints

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and VT2 is really heavy on that

lusty turtle
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ye annoying scalling

ember yew
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unlike DT

lusty turtle
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like, its a cool game, i loved VT back in the day

fading vale
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yeah see there are people asking for a higher difficulty in DT and I'm just like please do not add annoying scaling

lusty turtle
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DT is a direct improvement

fading vale
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literally nobody liked the elite mode they introduced

nimble fiber
lusty turtle
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temp health became tooughness, armour got expanded

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its not perfect but its better

fading vale
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maybe if they spend their time on versus instead DT will improve

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not to downplay how great the combat system and feel is in this game

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well I have effectively killed a couple hours here so maybe it's time to do something else

ember yew
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this thing need a rework

fading vale
visual blade
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always the fanatic zealots that are sub-par at the game for some reason

hushed knoll
lusty turtle
drowsy steppe
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
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Named

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Not naked

drowsy steppe
nimble fiber
hushed knoll
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Hi mankar cPES_PoggersHeart

hushed knoll
vocal pulsar
hushed knoll
visual blade
vocal pulsar
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no

hushed knoll
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Oh I thought you were subtweeting them lol

nimble fiber
vocal pulsar
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no

hushed knoll
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How are you doing on this fine day mankar

nimble fiber
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show me some evidence stan

drowsy steppe
vocal pulsar
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over my 1.8k hours of experience, most female fanatic zealots, bodyguard ogryns, female savant + male seer psykers tend to have the worst players

hushed knoll
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I’ve never seen a stick butt fancr in real life

vocal pulsar
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is what i am saying stan

hushed knoll
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Stick bug

hushed knoll
rocky marsh
vocal pulsar
rocky marsh
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you were supposed to be nice and say "but thats not you"

lusty turtle
rocky marsh
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🐭 Sitgryn

obtuse stirrup
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But I do better on those than on my main Male Loner lol

vocal pulsar
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female loner, female judge, female loose cannon, bully

obtuse stirrup
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I do fine on my F Loose Cannon but it's hard not to on Vet with decent gear tbh

rocky marsh
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how do i check actually

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but either way its a weird way to discrimminate :p

pure token
obtuse stirrup
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Brawler ogryns always tend to be very good

pure token
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is that the average british guy one?

obtuse stirrup
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Yes, sounds a bit like Bardin

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But isn't the same VA

pure token
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I love how he's the one with the brain implant loll

obtuse stirrup
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There are theories that they all have one

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Brawler is the only one who knows he does because his is overheating/defective

pure token
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afaik, one of the others talks about wanting one

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the bodyguard seems to most intelligent to me

obtuse stirrup
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Bodyguard wants one

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But I still think he already has it

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Just nobody told him

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Or he forgot

pure token
pure token
obtuse stirrup
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Bully doesn't want one but again I think he already has it

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Apparently all Ogryn rejects understand what the doors say?

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Think there was some banter in Warren 619

pure token
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im not sure how intelligent a non-implant ogryn is

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are they even able to properly speak?

obtuse stirrup
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I remember reading that most Ogryn are literally dumb as rocks

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All the rejects are freakishly intelligent

pure token
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I love ogryns in the lore, they make me happy C:

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plus having a giant with a shield in your squad must be awesome if you're a guardsman

obtuse stirrup
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I want the Darktide ogryns to be the new canon tbh

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They're so heartwarming

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Like, their existence makes the 40K world all the more horrific

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Because they deserve so much better

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But at least they have fun

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Like orks with big hearts

pure token
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yeah it's really sad, a bunch of the stories I see about ogryns are about their loyalty and how they protect their allies

nimble fiber
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honestly never saw a stick butt fencer ever, now that I think about it

placid fiber
fading vale
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somehow I just zoomed out my whole discord on mobile

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hmm

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including the "window"

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there are so many strange bugs

rough galleon
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Beta testing the next discord mobile layout

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They've taken feedback from the current layout in order to really make it insufferable next time

fading vale
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half the time I reopen discord I can't view media

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cause it blows way up and I can only see half of it

rough galleon
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I love when a simple and easy to use app gets bloated and overdesigned and bloated and overdesigned until it's a mess

fading vale
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I miss third party reddit apps

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not really cause it's a cesspool but still

rough galleon
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I wish reddit wasn't the easiest way to see actual human interaction about a niche topic

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I also wish it didn't exist

fading vale
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there's always Twitter monkaCough

rough galleon
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Oh you're absolutely right, lemme just go have a look at some Twitter opinions

obtuse stirrup
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Is there any platform which isn't just a Bannonite neonazi botfarm these days

rough galleon
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Okay I skim read about fifty comments and there were about two opinions

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"Ban xim" and "stop giving trials the fucking sniper"

mystic ether
obtuse stirrup
mystic ether
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There's also just not letting those types flood your online spaces by actually being about it.

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When your mods don't care either way, makes it way easier for those types to show up. Bigger communities that are open just can naturally create that since it's not like they'd need to put in any effort to click a link. However it's not a zero sum scenario.

rough galleon
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We just need to create a containment community for them that keeps a lot of them busy enough to not bother other communities, I'm sure they won't turn into echo chamber of slowly escalating ideals

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Aw fuck that's just paradox games nvm

mystic ether
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Yeah, resorting to methods that align with some of the worst those kinds of ideas can generate is part of it. It's also very difficult to feel like it's worth doing anything but ostracizing people. It's not something exclusively in the hands of strangers on the internet but people genuinely understanding what they're dealing with and pushing back over time.

Assholes that believe in things like fasc ism can't exist without something to "fight" against. The utility of the ideology is its ability to produce enemies where there are none. They inevitably destroy each other given the opportunity.

Issue is is that that opportunity tends to come after they're more established.

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And you don't actually want that even you or you communities aren't immediately dealing with those consequences

rough galleon
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Bro I just wanted to shit on paradox interactive

mystic ether
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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You're bringing up stuff that includes real stuff. Dunno what to tell you

placid fiber
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Guys I found it

mystic ether
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The one piece?

placid fiber
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Couch kitty! :3

placid fiber
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She's currently looking at me like I'm a crazy person rn lol

mystic ether
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Orange cat activity.

placid fiber
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Lounging around, occassional sprinting back and forth, and eating?

placid fiber
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Indeed, she is really chill for a young cat

mystic ether
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Sometimes the young ones aren't as active.

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I like a chaos ball though.

placid fiber
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That's good for me because I couldn't handle a really active cat, I don't think

mystic ether
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But that's just from experience with handling so many for so long.

placid fiber
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Sometimes I just want to... do nothing

mystic ether
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It's definitely not always fun. At all.

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Like I love cats, they're a neat species overall to me. But goddammit do I understand why some prefer dogs.

placid fiber
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Oh yeah

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I love cats too

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I also love dogs, but, I am more of a cat person

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Probably because I was more or less mauled by our yellow lab when I was 10 >.>

mystic ether
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There are just times when it's like, a cat will do something totally not an issue with me or for their safety or not.

Turn around and the fucking 17 month old kitten just figured out how to a climb a ladder after still being obsessed with their tail.

The amount of crashing...

placid fiber
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Yeah... cats are chaos incarnate sometimes

mystic ether
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Me: please don't do anything that can put you in so much danger your cat self can't get out of it.

Cat: today I will go into the unfinished bathroom and get caught in something.

placid fiber
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I swear my cat is going to try to jump in the toilet one of these times >.>

mystic ether
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Know how it'll happen?

placid fiber
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Sink?

mystic ether
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They'll try to slap some bug or whatever or something to play with and then fuck up their footing because it's too smooth.

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Classic shit.

placid fiber
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True

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We usually keep the bathroom closed since it is the only door in our place, besides the front door

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She's fascinated with the bathroom, tho >.>

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She likes sitting on the floor of our shower

mystic ether
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I remember a cat I knew did something like incredibly dangerous, managed to get out just fine.

I clean it up and look at this fucker while talking.

This is all I got.

placid fiber
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They say cats have 9 lives, right?

mystic ether
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"Why are you looking at me like I'm the one making it fucked up?"

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Cat: mmrph.

placid fiber
mystic ether
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Aight.

placid fiber
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Yeah, they do look at you like that

mystic ether
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Main reason why I prefer street cats

placid fiber
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Cause they got street smarts?

mystic ether
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If they don't like you, you don't need to figure it out, you'll know.

placid fiber
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Oh, that makes more sense

mystic ether
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If they're silly as hell they're silly as hell and it's wide enough for them to not get hurt as much sometimes.

placid fiber
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Except when they try to jump a barbed wire fence >.>'

mystic ether
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SOMETIMES

placid fiber
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Yeah lol

mystic ether
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Also yeah, street cats in my experience have usually been on the more sensible angle. If they're daredevils they're usually successful

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But you don't know where a cat goes when they're roaming around cities and stuff. For all you know they cleaned themselves off from falling through a ceiling or something.

placid fiber
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That and outside cats tend to live shorter lives

sharp zodiac
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Who the fuck sees a box with 6 pizza slices left and throws it away thinking no one wants it

placid fiber
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Monsters

nimble fiber
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u and most other people would

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but there r some specimens that cry when its a day old

fading vale
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you ever see squirrels and chipmunks running around carrying nuts and be like damn animals are cute

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I have so many squirrels and chipmunks on my property

nimble fiber
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hell yeah, for me its birds

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we mostly have families of black birds in our garden

fading vale
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I hear them constantly but I don't see them much

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they are all way up in the trees here

nimble fiber
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dont think I ever saw a chipmunk in rl

fading vale
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dude watching a chipmunk stuff walnuts into its mouth

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is peak

nimble fiber
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I can imagine KEKW_ogryn

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adorable af

solar gorge
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i had a hamste when i was very young that did this

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he was a pain

fading vale
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lol

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I think I had a hamster that "ran away"

solar gorge
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worst pet you could possibly have

nimble fiber
fading vale
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also had a snake that escaped while eating mice and hid in the walls for 2 weeks

nimble fiber
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whar kind of snek?

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corn snake would have been cute

fading vale
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IIRC it was a king snake

nimble fiber
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uh

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they look similar to coral snakes, are they also poisonous?

fading vale
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no

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it could have been a corn snake, pretty sure we one at some point

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also had a bearded dragon that we accidentally killed Sitgryn

nimble fiber
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rip little dragon

fading vale
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went to Disney for a week and left it's big heat lamp on not on a timer or something idk, I was like 7 not my fault

ivory marlin
nimble fiber
fading vale
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never been around Canarys

fading vale
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had a parrot at one point and honestly fuck owning a parrot

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it was so annoying

nimble fiber
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first one died and the other one was so depressed because of it that he died aswell

ivory marlin
fading vale
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when we got back from the trip it smelled kinda burnt and couldn't open it's eyes anymore idk what happened but uh yeah

nimble fiber
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little lizard got burned slowly Sitgryn

ivory marlin
north sedge
north sedge
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and chicken

fading vale
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"parrots can't eat pizza or chicken"

nimble fiber
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lmao

ivory marlin
nimble fiber
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so many animals cant do things in stan's world

ivory marlin
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Guys i dont understand how people lose pets

fading vale
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stick bugs can't dance obviously EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE THING THEY DO

ivory marlin
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This mf is 3

nimble fiber
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hello 3 im asra

ivory marlin
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Real

fading vale
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whats their name

zealous mesa
nimble fiber
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3

ivory marlin
fading vale
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oh yeah you told me before

nimble fiber
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salazar from cod?

ivory marlin
fading vale
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I was thinking it looks like a Jeff

nimble fiber
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how does a jeff look like

fading vale
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I may or may not love giving pets simple people names too much

nimble fiber
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I see little lizard as sven

ivory marlin
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I had another gecko

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But some drama happened and now I’ll probably never see him again

fading vale
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like I had dogs named Sarah, Gabby, and Drew

ivory marlin
nimble fiber
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and sven?

ivory marlin
fading vale
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ok much less Jeff in that picture

nimble fiber
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still sven 4 me

ivory marlin
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I think echo fits her

nimble fiber
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like they upto something

ivory marlin
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For human name “eva” works

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Her middle name anyways

fading vale
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I think it was the staredown that got me in the other picture

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and the derpy look

ivory marlin
nimble fiber
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ok 100% sven

fading vale
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oh you about to die

ivory marlin
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She’d miss

nimble fiber
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no aim?

ivory marlin
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Would not survive in the wild at all

fading vale
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she's not even trying lol

frosty herald
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Comes with detachable right hand

fading vale
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why is that species tail so large

ivory marlin
fading vale
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is it like, nutrient storage for survival

frosty herald
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The beast is slumbering

calm marten
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ooh i have tacs

ivory marlin
fading vale
ivory marlin
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She can hunt, ive seen her hunt actuall

calm marten
fading vale
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your cat seems a bit on the wild side

frosty herald
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She is very silly very stinky very naughty very sleepy but also a very sweet cat

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Wouldnt hurt a fly

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Also wont eat your food

fading vale
ivory marlin
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Her tail is stored nutrients yeah

fading vale
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obligatory faceplant Steve

ivory marlin
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It looks smaller then it actually is idk why

nimble fiber
fading vale
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what kind of region is that species native to

ivory marlin
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No clue

ivory marlin
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You relate?

ivory marlin
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She looks so dorkish

prisma sigil
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Our psykers quit and the vet and I decided to be silly for ten-fifteen minutes

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Wish we had an endless survival mode like L4D

ivory marlin
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Yall wanna see baby photos

fading vale
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I have never approached 1.4m damage in a game I feel like that would just be pain

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but some kind of endless mode could be cool

prisma sigil
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We honestly could have just kept going

ivory marlin
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I hate how small her first tank was

prisma sigil
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We were at the end of Archivum Sychorax and we just cut into the hordes and specials and shit like butter

fading vale
ivory marlin
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Her whole pattern has changed

fading vale
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oh yeah, now that I look more closely

ivory marlin
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Went from sections of color to moldy banana

fading vale
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I don't have any young Steve photos sadge

ivory marlin
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I wish i took more baby photos of her ngl

sharp oyster
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I'm almost LV30 so I can farm my first Transcendent weapons

frosty herald
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If youve spent melk currency before lvl 30

fading vale
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after all golden frieza was the result of 1 month of training

hushed bear
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thoughts on blazing piety vs inex judgement for stealth knife builds?

fading vale
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either one should work

hushed bear
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piety seems stronger, but inex also has that stacking melee dmg % buff on melee hit which seems super strong

fading vale
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crits are obviously very favored on knife

hushed bear
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ye and im running flesh tearer so i feel like thats very nice for synergy

south folio
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i prefer piety on knife unless you want to save points by going into inexorable

fading vale
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I hope you aren't running flesh tearer without uncanny though

hushed bear
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im running it with mercy killer rn because i dont have uncanny yet on my zealot

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but uncanny is the next upgrade once i get it

frosty herald
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Judgement is imo better for knife

fading vale
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uncanny precog is the usual recommendation, but uncanny flesh tearer can work

frosty herald
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You move around alot and dodge alot with knife

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Depends on which knife

south folio
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though piety is nice for more consistent scourge proccing and upkeep

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and if you don't hit weakspots, crits are a significant damage boost from bodyshot -> crit bodyshot

hushed bear
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i loosely followed unc's rat build but change just a couple little things, like picking purge the unclean for boss dmg instead of 25% coherency toughness regen

obtuse stirrup
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I kinda like Piety to get back into stealth faster too

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more crit CDR

fading vale
frosty herald
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Mk6 knife uncanny and executor is good

hushed bear
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i just kinda felt like stealth zealot is already so tanky that why would i pick coherency toughness over 20% boss/infested dmg

frosty herald
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I only use coherency regen on psyker

hushed bear
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especially when youre running loner and straying from your team a lot

fading vale
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nobody would ever willingly take the coherency toughness regen talent on zealot so you are right

ember yew
south folio
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coherency toughness regen in general is pretty poopoo

ember yew
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yeah

fading vale
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fun fact about coherency toughness, if you are within like 3m of an enemy it's disabled

hushed bear
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last thing im trying to decide on is taking invigorating revelation vs taking either sustained assault or righteous warrior

fading vale
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invigorating and righteous are 2 things I don't know off the top of my head, haven't seen anyone use the names

hushed bear
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righteous would give me an insane amount of crit while sustained assault gives u that nice 20% melee dmg that seems like its got very good uptime

south folio
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o damn your build is pretty starved for points

hushed bear
fading vale
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ah

south folio
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i'd personally take sustained assault

hushed bear
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sdustained assault is the passive that gives 4% melee per hit, stackjing 5 times

fading vale
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sustained is always good

frosty herald
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Ewew allows you to regen when close to enemies

fading vale
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idk post your build

hushed bear
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ewew?

south folio
frosty herald
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Its really good

hushed bear
south folio
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ye just showing what it does and where it is on the tree

fading vale
#

Ideally you would go right, but it's tough if you want to not use throwing knives

hushed bear
south folio
#

if you're that starved for points, i'd personally go into inexorable judgement

fading vale
#

yeah fire nades is what I suspected from the point starvation

frosty herald
#

Hollup

south folio
#

missing out on duellist is also quite a shame

frosty herald
#

You dont use thy wrath be swift

fading vale
#

yeah you really want duellist too

obtuse stirrup
dapper topaz
#

even if you don't throw the knives the points there and not starving too important imo

fading vale
#

TWBS >>>> good balance

frosty herald
obtuse stirrup
#

Yeah I wouldn't want to drop it either

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it's like the only time I'd possibly consider it though

hushed bear
#

i started out running a stealth knives build but the fire nades just seem soooo nice haha

frosty herald
#

If i didnt use twbs my max health evis horde playstyle wouldnt work

fading vale
#

the fire nades are really nice

frosty herald
#

Fire nades are hella good

obtuse stirrup
#

I love when you can drop a fire grenade on a pile of bulwarks

frosty herald
#

Straight up area of denial

obtuse stirrup
#

and keep them in it

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It's an honestly crazy amount of damage

south folio
#

i think going with inexorable might be the better option for point efficiency

ember yew
#

oh wait i went 1 point wrong

south folio
#

e.g., doing something like this

ember yew
#

the bleed

south folio
#

moving some points around depending on what you want

fading vale
#

I suffer a similar fate on my hammer build for points using fire nades

frosty herald
#

Arco y no upgrade nodes for shroud

fading vale
#

and yeah I'd grab second wind too

ember yew
#

fire nades fits perfectly on rashad and momentum build, way too perfect

frosty herald
#

The 6 second shroud uptime allows you to get a free revive

south folio
#

yeah you'd prob move a point into there

obtuse stirrup
#

Tbh inexorable judgement is weird as hell to me

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I can feel it's good

south folio
#

though that entails having to give up either second wind/enduring faith/duellist/until death/faithful frenzy

obtuse stirrup
#

but I'm like "I could be doing more furies of the faithful if I had piety"

hushed bear
#

duellist does seem very good and i was wondering why i wasnt seeing it recommended in the build

fading vale
#

it's incredible especially for knife

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it's +100% crit weakspot damage

hushed bear
#

maybe ill just go back to using knives for better point efficiency and elite takedowns

south folio
#

it's pretty nutty and doubly so since it gives +50% crit and weakspot damage separately, meaning that you do +100% crit weakspot damage

frosty herald
#

Blazing piety is insane with knife and its high crit

south folio
#

with the combat knife and tknives, i like to run flamer

frosty herald
#

But judgement just feels nice

obtuse stirrup
frosty herald
#

And its a good passive talent

south folio
#

ye i just mean in comparison to +finesse damage

fading vale
#

100% is the compound result

south folio
#

since +50% weakspot dmg and +50% crit damage is better than +50% finesse damage

obtuse stirrup
#

1.5 x 1.5 = 2.25 I'd have expected

frosty herald
#

Yanna could oneshot plague ogryns before the backstab modifier from shroud was nerfed

fading vale
obtuse stirrup
fading vale
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so you aren't doing 2x more damage

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probably like 30 or 40% more

south folio
fading vale
obtuse stirrup
fading vale
#

yeah so momentum buffs dodges

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max stacks is 10% speed, distance, and 20% cooldown IIRC

obtuse stirrup
#

not bad

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makes it easier to trigger inebriete's I guess

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feedback loop, hooooooooooooo

fading vale
#

if only the toughness node was entirely different

hushed bear
frosty herald
#

The toughness node on blazing piety is the most useless thing to exist

hushed bear
#

Kinda wondering if there's anything I could drop so I can put 1 more point at the end of piety

south folio
#

i might go through Grievous wounds instead of good balance

obtuse stirrup
fading vale
#

but over crit chance yeah

frosty herald
#

Thats true but doesnt tell it

south folio
#

e.g., i might do this to save on points

ripe quest
#

🙂

frosty herald
#

So you just think it only triggers on activation

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And you have 80% uptime on piety

south folio
#

so sad

hushed bear
fading vale
#

do you think fatshark actually said what it does

hushed bear
#

good balance sounds very good to me

ember yew
#

good balance is good

fading vale
#

good balance is good and all but you just don't really need it

south folio
#

good balance is nice but i'm comfortable dropping it on a crit build with enduring faith

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i think i would go down the TWBS path just to afford +melee attack speed and the last piety node

frosty herald
#

For my thammer build i use toughness on heavy attacks

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And evis the toughness on kills node

hushed bear
ember yew
south folio
#

o just saving the other point by dropping good balance

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since i'd favor a little bit of extra offensive oomph rather than some more DR

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just a personal choice though

fading vale
#

man it's so refreshing when a newer player comes in to ask for advice and what not and they don't instantly scream at us

hushed bear
#

🙂

ember yew
#

there's reddit for that

frosty herald
#

Every subreddit hates their own game

south folio
hushed bear
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a lot of this stuff is subjective, so i dont really think there's room for arguing! i like to hear the different opinions in this chat to help form my own

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everyone in here is always super helpful and friendly anyway 🙂

ember yew
#

nvm then, im just using mk6 - lights and pushstabs, heavies in rare case

obtuse stirrup
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Zealot's got a lot of choices and is a tiny bit cryptic imo

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but lots of viable choices

south folio
#

another consideration is maybe dropping invigorating revelation because you've got a goated toughness regen talent in the form of Second Wind (+toughness on dodge)

obtuse stirrup
#

imo, build complexity goes psyker < ogryn < zealot < veteran

south folio
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yeah psyker and ogryn would be the bottom 2 for me

ember yew
obtuse stirrup
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Psyker's the most complex and unstable to play, but building it is extremely intuitive

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Eh, maybe. You want to take more raw stat nodes than you'd expect though

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and there's more trap nodes that don't do anything good

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and an entire trap keystone

ember yew
#

veteran tree could use another rework though

south folio
#

could certainly have a bunch of nodes moved around

ember yew
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or just combined (and nerfed a little)

south folio
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i suppose they wanted to avoid making the tree structured like zealot's

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but currently most of the nodes are just stacked at the bottom

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and then you have the holy trinity in the form of tactical awareness, iron will, and demo team

obtuse stirrup
#

Veteran tree is the anxiety machine for me

frosty herald
#

vet absolutely needs some talents combined

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a very bloated tree atm

median steeple
hushed bear
# south folio another consideration is maybe dropping invigorating revelation because you've g...

so my current struggle, which this suggestion touches on really well, is whether or not its worth overdoing it with survivability on a build that finds itself outside of coherency in solo-dependant situations more often than any other build in the game. if theres ever a build that pulls off a solo clutch and saves the run, it's stealth zealot. so should i really care about min-maxing dps, or should i actually care about these extra little surviveability boosts that may help me save the run?

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so far, ive been fully invested in survivability while still feeling like my dps is decent

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but i havent tried minmaxing dps, so idk

south folio
#

yeah i'm very focused on DPSing while going for survivability stuff that's on the way

#

my mindset, if i were running loner/shroudfield, is that my main benefit is from having loner and not having loner special spawns and being able to roam around looting without being jumpscared by special spawns

stable cypress
#

I think that'll depend on your weapon too

hushed bear
#

im still new and just did my very first successful auric damnation run last night, plus my first damnation maelstrom run, so surviving has been my main focus as i get better

south folio
#

yeah that's fair

hushed bear
#

hey thanks! it was on my psyker though and not zealot 😛 hehe

#

but zealot is a BLAST. its sooo fun

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might make it my new main

vocal pulsar
frosty herald
#

try to do the twins hardmode with no downsKEKW_ogryn

south folio
#

yeah i've jumped from psyker -> vet -> zealot

vocal pulsar
#

its harder for new players to survive on psyker than zealot

zealous basin
#

i love deceive inc...

frosty herald
#

ive gone psyker zealot vet zealot ogryn zealot

hushed bear
#

zealot feels far more forgiving than psyker for sure. i feel like i just get 1-shotted on my psyker if i make any mistakes

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so its refreshing being tanky on zealot

frosty herald
#

psyker is a wet tissue

zealous basin
#

just play ogryn StareClueless

obtuse stirrup
south folio
#

i love until death and holy rev

obtuse stirrup
#

since when you swap to another class

zealous basin
#

twbs...

obtuse stirrup
#

it's like having the training weights removed

south folio
#

it's half the reason why i go down the left branch

hushed bear
#

yeah psyker was my first class and i think it made me care far more about dodging, placement, etc.

south folio
#

it's also nice to jump between psyker and zealot since they have similar dodge stats

#

and then you go into vet and immediately feel the slightly longer cooldown between your dodges

hushed bear
#

psyker is also badass melee dmg with the dueling sword

#

holy cow its so much dmg

vocal pulsar
south folio
#

very depressing when i use the duelling sword and it does roughly the same damage that knife does on a crit weakspot (without duellist up)

hushed bear
dapper topaz
hushed bear
#

plus being able to go into stealth if u need to save yourself, or get a quick free revive on a teammate

#

very nice

#

plus the added offensive benefit of stealth, ofc

dapper topaz
#

all three abilities actually being fairly useful and us being able to make a meaningful choice there feels nice, rip vet

hushed bear
#

zealot is an extremely well designed class for sure

hushed bear
#

i feel like i have way more options than psyker lol

obtuse stirrup
#

E-Stance is good too

#

Just weaker than old volley fire was lol

#

And, uh, I admit I don't know Infiltrate at all

#

but some people swear by it

#

idk

#

feels like Shroudfield At Home to me

hushed bear
#

am i misinterpreting this skill? it seems like i still get hit by projectiles while sprinting

frosty herald
#

run sideways

obtuse stirrup
south folio
#

yeah that description is bad

obtuse stirrup
#

Not sure what the size of the angle has to be

#

but you can't just run straight into a reaper

south folio
#

so, by default, you dodge ranged attacks while sprinting as long as you have stamina and you're not facing a frontal angle to the ranged enemy

#

swift certainty lets you do that at zero stamina

hushed bear
#

but like... running at an angle seems like it would make projectiles miss even if u werent "dodging" haha

#

so whats the fking point of the passive

south folio
#

nah you do get ranged i-frames to ranged attacks while sprinting and not facing a frontal angle to them

hushed bear
#

ah ok, its just not quite as useful as i thought then since there are caveots to it

south folio
#

(the angle being based on where your camera is facing, not where you're moving)

#

ye the most relevant part of swift certainty is p much the +sprint speed

hushed bear
#

the decription makes it sounds absolutely necessary lmao

pure token
#

psyker is probably the hardest class for me

#

unless im using assail lol

hushed bear
#

assail is life 😄

#

although assail feels far less useful the higher the difficulty

south folio
#

assail is still p good with quickswapping

vocal pulsar
#

assail powerful in all difficulties

hushed bear
#

for sure, yes

#

it just doesnt feel as ezmode as earlier difficulties

#

where youre mowing down literally everything

south folio
#

yeah they should implement some difficulty scaling of some sort for blitzes

hushed bear
#

gotta use staff/sword more

frosty herald
#

do not use assail for hardmode twins

#

youll get hard countered by the maulers and crushers

median steeple
#

What psyker blitz is even good for hard mode, psyker is like the one class I haven't even heard someone do something with it

frosty herald
#

i guess smite for stunning the scab horde

hushed bear
#

smite as long as you are using it situationally and not spamming it

frosty herald
#

not even bubble shield is good cause guess what its only melee units

median steeple
#

Yeah that was my guess as well for smite

#

Oh well we're about to get an answer now aren't we

royal vortex
#

the dome provides toughness regen which is fairly helpful for mitigating damage whenever rinda is on you

frosty herald
#

thats true the dome regen is cracked

royal vortex
#

psyker's blitzes dont factor hugely so u take w/e u take. mainly u want trauma staff for handling elites

median steeple
#

Hmmm ok

#

Yeah I would assume shield would be the best out of the fs since psykers are... Eh? At least for me

royal vortex
#

void is probs ok just because how stupid it is for staffs

frosty herald
#

@fair igloo post that clip of your trauma staff

royal vortex
#

assail gives u a decent ability to handle specials (if not killing outright the darts stagger)

hushed bear
#

thoughts on columnus mkv for knife stealth? it feels like a great gun for me personally but i dont see it in a lot of stealth builds it seems

frosty herald
#

the only thing assail is killing is scab ragers

median steeple
#

Gunners and shooters?

royal vortex
#

specials and shooters/shotgunners spawn too you numbskull

frosty herald
#

i have not been paying attention when i played with mal red and brock

royal vortex
#

none of the blitzes are doing anything worthwhile to crushers/maulers, smite is gonna get you killed because you cant stagger bosses with it

median steeple
indigo quartz
#

And it's like

#

5-8 shotgunnera

#

And 10 shooters

#

They hurt bad

sharp oyster
#

What are the dump stats on a Revolver

north sedge
#

mobility

ember yew
#

@south folio i think im gonna swap from mk6 to mk3

south folio
#

😎

#

at least with the mk3 the stabs do a bit more damage and i can't be assed to do BP math

#

and the move tech is very marginally faster

ember yew
#

the light combo is actually faster

#

thanks to that stab attack with almost nonexistant animation and delay

#

so 3 aoe + 1 stab attack is kinda neat

#

plus heavies are better

#

heavies on mk6 are kinda useless to me unless its haymaker

#

push stab is pretty much the same in terms of damage

#

gonna use this till i get a better one

hushed bear
#

does loner only proc coherency toughness regen, or does it cause my team's coherency passives to come into effect at all?

ember yew
north sedge
#

just coherency regen

#

it's pretty shit

hushed bear
#

where are you seeing the expanded description?

ember yew
#

mod

hushed bear
#

mod or is that a website?

#

ah ok

#

i should get that lmao

ember yew
#

yeah

#

its great

#

esp for new players

median steeple
#

its also great because a lot of FS descriptions are bad

ember yew
#

FS should just copypaste it's content and give the author a few bucks

hushed bear
#

hmmm, so for my stealth knife build, ive been going down through loner but i wonder if i should just go down thru benediction since im already grabbing until death and it would cost the same exact amount of stat points to path down thru benediction

#

seems like benediction is the better pathing choice

#

unless some of these nodes above loner are necessary for a stealth build

ember yew
#

if you are going benediction means you are going fury

hushed bear
#

why?

ember yew
#

well points are limited if you are going back and forth

hushed bear
#

its costing me the same to just path over to the right and grab shroud

ember yew
#

between left and right side

ashen pecan
#

go through loner because it stops AI from spawning special hitsquads on you

#

you don't go through it for the regen

hushed bear
#

oh

#

interesting

#

i wish that type of info was more available lol

#

i shouldnt have to be told that by a big brain in the discord chat xD

ashen pecan
#

well it's not exclusive to loner, staying in coherency has teh same effect

hushed bear
#

ye i didnt know that about coherency

ashen pecan
#

but it's not like the game says 'staying in coherency stops you from getting mauled by a trapper flamer combo'

hushed bear
#

xD

#

ok, ill stick with loner then

fading vale
#

yeah just make your team deal with all the specials NODDERS

ripe quest
# ember yew

Aight real quick, what does it show for Duellist, Stalwart under BP, and Judgement?

#

Because that same mod showed clear evidence of not actually datamining any info and being incorrect.

ember yew
frosty herald
#

dragons dogma 2 as the 15th top selling game on steam globally

ember yew
#

@ripe quest

ripe quest
# ember yew

Aight a 2/3 which is way better than what it used to be.

ember yew
#

judgement and duelist pics above

ripe quest
#

I know? I said 2/3 not 1/1.

ember yew
minor sage
#

It used to not work like duelist or momentum

#

And always give you the dr buff when you dodged

ember yew
#

sounds more like it was bugged

sharp oyster
#

Are these bad Eviscerator stats?

minor sage
#

Yeah

#

Damage is important generally

sharp oyster
#

Rip

#

I just reached LV30 so I got all this plasteel saved for a solid transcendent weapon

minor sage
#

Is that you buy white weapons from Brunts until you get one with good stats

#

Then you upgrade with plasteel

sharp oyster
#

I've been doing that with Ogryn over the last month

#

Hmm

#

i should farm dockets again

#

I can't believe out of 300K only gave me 1 weapon above 350

#

and it's DMG dump

left iron
#

Back to the plasteel mines you go

median steeple
#

banished to quickplay

sharp oyster
#

I need dockets

#

marks are useless for me

#

most guns are doo doo Blessings

left iron
#

7k plasteel is like, 2-3 weapons if you also hunt for blessings pepeW

sharp oyster
#

I just got into Zealot so I don't know what's good or not at all on Shouty

#

I didn't run any other weapon aside Rev and Evis II

left iron
#

Roll a crusher first tbh. Its by far the easiest weapon to get a good roll on. You only need one blessing skullcrusher and perks can be pretty much any damage vs enemy type other than infested

#

Theres a crusher guide in the pins as well

rocky marsh
#

n0
roll whatever weapon you wanna play

#

then only stop when you have exactly what you want / need

#

then you won't be in a constant state of "i wish i had this weapon but a better roll"

sharp oyster
#

Are all weapons efficient? or situational vs general purpose?

rocky marsh
#

and u can play the build you want

#

try it in psk

#

download loadout config mod

left iron
#

Almost every weapon is good, tac axes are a bit weak though

rocky marsh
#

i mean

#

by levelling you would try alot of wepaons anyway

#

because you would generally buy the highest power one in store

#

so that would let you try different weapons

nimble fiber
sharp zodiac
#

My brother is being over dramatic about almost losing his pinky in an accident

nimble fiber
#

I mean I would be kinda sad when I would lose my pinkyO_sadcat1

sharp oyster
#

What's a pinky

nimble fiber
#

pinky toe I guess

sharp oyster
#

4

maiden path
sharp zodiac
#

Helping a guy turn on his cross save stuff for this Gauss prime trade

#

Turns out he's new to the game entirely

#

Waitin for him to finish his merge

#

Splendid

sharp zodiac
#

His first ever Warframe will be a Gauss Prime

median steeple
#

hell yeah

frank night
#

I am right you are wrong

median steeple
#

why does your pfp look like frieza

#

I thought it was a squished mini frieza

sharp zodiac
#

It does kinda

sharp zodiac
#

Why did he become black

maiden path
#

he trained too hard............

sharp zodiac
#

Skin must've burnt up from the hard training

maiden path
sharp zodiac
#

NOW I can either buy a hammer shot or buy myself a Zephyr Prime

frank night
#

Francr

#

Francr

#

FeNce

#

France

sharp zodiac
#

You did it

buoyant pecan
median steeple
#

that shitty flash "game" video haunts my mind

sharp zodiac
#

The one where it looks like a naked black guy?

median steeple
#

the what one?

sharp zodiac
#

There was a unreal engine example of flash and he looked like a naked black guy running

royal vortex
median steeple
#

thats the video im talking about but I've never thought he looked like a naked black guy

frank night
#

Rename poowees

#

Powrs

#

Powers

covert sail
#

Dont like how some the penances have to be done in a private game

median steeple
#

it was worst when you were forced to do them with goobers in pubs

royal vortex
#

and no it does not

frank night
#

I am age hfen dippes

royal vortex
#

?

frank night
#

I am have a few sippies

royal vortex
#

i could tell

sharp zodiac
#

Fucking drunk bitch

frank night
#

Silence wine acreatices

#

Creature

sharp zodiac
#

I don't even drink wine anymore

frank night
#

Whay for u dribk

#

What do I drink

#

U

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royal vortex
#

mittins please stop attempting to encroach upon stan's market

maiden path
#

when are we getting a zealot class only minecraft server

south folio
#

i like this version of mittins better

frank night
#

I am not fncirazvojbg on shan u rodeant

#

Bitzghl

royal vortex
#

..?

sharp zodiac
sharp zodiac
frank night
#

I will not inhale the coffee again

frosty herald
#

avada kadabra

frank night
#

Wow well done auto cotter

#

Correct

maiden path
#

chat

#

watch this

frosty herald
maiden path
#

only one person saw it

frosty herald
#

erm

maiden path
#

im fr like a magician

frosty herald
#

bro got them feet saved

frank night
buoyant pecan
maiden path
maiden path
maiden path
#

mods

#

hell cradle

#

this mf

sharp zodiac
royal vortex
sharp zodiac
#

Man I'm so hungry

maiden path
#

i want Q in street fighter 6

fleet zealot
#

i got

#

hot hoeny pizza

#

and hot honey wings

#

9/10

frank night
#

Why

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Abba

#

Abba

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Qbba

#

Abba

sharp zodiac
#

Kadabra

frank night
#

Foul beast

sharp zodiac
maiden path
#

where my little mac fans

#

in smash

frosty herald
#

kazuya solos smash

maiden path
#

his fucking uhh

#

thunder god death fist whatever its called

maiden path
#

set as his a combo

#

does like 30 damage

frosty herald
#

electric wind god fist

maiden path
#

and you can just keep doing it

frosty herald
#

you can also combo demon god fist into electric wind godfist

maiden path
#

yea pal idk how to do that!!

#

i dont own a switch

#

i just bum off of people and beat their ass in smash

covert sail
#

Anyone know an easy way to do the "kill 40 enemies stunned by your grenades, within 10seconds"?

frosty herald
maiden path
frosty herald
maiden path
#

im not buying a switch just for animal crossing and smash

#

i have a 3ds for that

frosty herald
#

buy tekken then smh

maiden path
#

too broke

#

i have tekken 7

covert sail
maiden path
#

im not built for fighting games

#

im built for fromsoft games

maiden path
#

FREAK

#

try something unique...........

fleet zealot
#

(i don't play smash a lot)

frosty herald
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this user cannot perform an taunt jet upper laugh at him

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it is unique it has an uppercut that makes coins

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that is like the best

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mods this man plays bryabn

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i guarantee you king wouldve pissed off smash players even more with gameplay

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deploy an anti air missile straight into his house

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i wish they added heihachi

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as a skin

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i dont wanna play kazuya

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erm i use dragunov because im a real one

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jinpachi was the coolest mishima

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COD GOT A REAL GUARDSMAN SKIN BEFORE DARKTIDE

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STOP THE CAP

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NO LIE

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WAIT IS THIS COD

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yea

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B R U H

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ciods getting warhammer skins