destiny 2?
#zealot-class
frosty herald
damn
sharp zodiac
This is what I meant about the more Elden gameplay in a way
delicate shadow
the TL;DR is that you play as a void-touched child of an ancient galactic empire that was used as a pilot for super soldiers that had been turned into bio-robots to fight a galactic war against renegade sentient AIs and you were put into cryo-sleep and hidden for however long before awaking to a post-war/post-collapse galaxy
and then it just gets more insane from there as you go
I actually do like a good chunk of the lore tbh
but it's very all over the place
sharp zodiac
It has changed up by a lot
And ever since the change that happened recently the games been improving
frozen glen
who gave the ferrofluid skinwalker some thunder thighs
sharp zodiac
You are the second person to say this and I once again lack an answer
Their kind just simply have that
frozen glen
0 hip ALL thigh
jaunty lava
The arms aren't much better
sharp zodiac
See that one's justifying for the orokin have one long arm
merry spade
Refined and reblessed, how's the crusher looking now?
sharp zodiac
Refined and reblessed, how's the crusher looking now?
Go and..and beat the ugly people up with it
merry spade
I never realized how fast hammerblow scaled up... 2 stacks of it and the things light attacks can knock a crusher to the ground with a light attack to the dome...
visual stream
Crusher crushing crushers
patent patrol
Welp. I'm done with my hammer now. I'll get a better one if I happen to cross it but for now, yeah this is gonna be my hammer
warped dragon
Iβve got such good hammer rolls that it compels me to use em from time to time
Hammer goes hard on monstrosity maelstrom
visual stream
Welp. I'm done with my hammer now. I'll get a better one if I happen to cross it...
Good hammar
polar nexus
https://youtu.be/xEByB2S3XO0?si=cr2CKYIJfNhyq0Fo&t=1026 crab talking about bolter
coarse birch
was kidnapped into the RTS dimension im afraid
π
lusty turtle
i hope your control groups get messed up
okay now im actually requesting you are banned from darktide
south folio
very rude
vocal pulsar
GOOD BYE GOOD BYE
lusty turtle
calling me rude after wishing control group death upon me
banning you from darktide is far too tame compared to what you deserve π€
frozen glen
don't forget to do the assassination missions
south folio
i don't like that image
tepid sorrel
how'd you get them working
they just spawn questionmarks and crash me brotherman
north sedge
ripe quest
how'd you get them working
they just spawn questionmarks and crash me brotherman
You must go down the path that I have (I have learned that it's very easy to ruin this game through others so I don't want to distribute methods).
tepid sorrel
i'm gonna go in your dms so i can put this in perspective
lusty turtle
ye as stated before, if u guys are messing with things u shouldnt on a none darktide game please don't discuss it here
ripe quest
Oh I didn't see any prior warning, I'll be careful with what I say.
lusty turtle
tepid sorrel
love u buddy
lusty turtle
love you too random citizen
south folio
π΄
lusty turtle
jk, its been a while ancient
south folio
ur a nobody
tepid sorrel
ur a nobody
man fuck you arcotash you're the worst to have EVER darktided in ALL of darktide
lusty turtle
ikr
south folio
you're only alive so that you can do darcy rp for me
tropic harbor
And people say zealot chat is toxic
tepid sorrel
yo i hope all your macros stop working
lusty turtle
wtf!
tropic harbor
yo i hope all your macros stop working
Never mind they were right
patent patrol
Good hammar
Thanks.
tropic harbor
Was it because you were being a little bitch again?
coarse birch
can you ban arco twice
lusty turtle
Was it because you were being a little bitch again?
wtf!
lusty turtle
Sand has nothing to do with sleep
old style hour glasses i guess?
visual stream
Oldheads watching hourglasses to go to sleep instead of YouTube
lusty turtle
Oh I didn't see any prior warning, I'll be careful with what I say.
ye np, just restating cause i was assuming that was the case
tropic harbor
Oldheads watching hourglasses to go to sleep instead of YouTube
Look at this old fart
tepid sorrel
i had to INTERROGATE EXHIL with the use of TRUTH SERUM
frozen glen
knowlegg
ripe quest
i had to INTERROGATE EXHIL with the use of TRUTH SERUM
Only had to threaten me with griefing lobbies to gain scraps of knowledge.
tepid sorrel
Only had to threaten me with griefing lobbies to gain scraps of knowledge.
that is absolutely not what i was saying
ripe quest
allegedly 
ripe quest
Wow death threats, ban this guy
tepid sorrel
it's not my fault the barrel exploded exhil
ripe quest
can't believe he's a mod in the modding server
tepid sorrel
it's not my fault you flew off the map.....
frozen glen
ancient became a mod on the dt modding discord to harass vtubers π
tepid sorrel
ancient became a mod on the dt modding discord to harass vtubers π
fake news
delicate shadow
ye as stated before, if u guys are messing with things u shouldnt on a none dark...
I love going into notepad and unlocking the unplayable factions in old total war games
a true rebel
tepid sorrel
I love going into notepad and unlocking the unplayable factions in old total war...
fucking ban this incan guy
actual war criminal
tropic harbor
I love going into notepad and unlocking the unplayable factions in old total war...
shut up man you're gonna get us all banned
delicate shadow
playing as the papal states and getting excommunicated π€
lusty turtle
Wow death threats, ban this guy
im afraid barreling is just considered a work place accident, we can't do anything π
ripe quest
im afraid barreling is just considered a work place accident, we can't do anythi...
wow ok time to exploit this, thank you Mr. Mod man that I look up to
time to barrel people
frosty herald
time to use throwing knife on bursters
lusty turtle
no dw yoshi is going to "accidentily" assail every burster
bitter anvil
BB every burster
coarse birch
no dw yoshi is going to "accidentily" assail every burster
why am i being thrown under the bus i am very careful to not do this
south folio
no dw yoshi is going to "accidentily" assail every burster
so true
coarse birch
fucked up!
south folio
entered my psyker inventory and crashed in 10 seconds
coarse birch
are u playing
south folio
ye
south folio
shush
coarse birch
can i invade
coarse birch
you can delete stuff you know
frozen glen
people dont ask to invade u know
south folio
i've deleted all of the low rating items
frozen glen
can u imagine someone going "can i take ur country plssss"
coarse birch
arcos rubbing off on me
south folio
so i just have a bunch of good-rolled items that i haven't gotten around to consecrating
and i'm just saving
and even those items are numerous enough to be a fucking nuke
frozen glen
i need to make more mission edits of arco
south folio
i'll need to restart my game again
no
no you do not
there is no need
nothing compelling you to do so
south folio
truly peak gaming
having to restart my game every time i enter my psyker inventory
my vet inventory is on the verge of becoming a nuke as well
redverse jumpscare
ripe quest
having to restart my game every time i enter my psyker inventory
1 visit to my inventory or 1 game and a crafting trip if I'm fast
lusty turtle
entered my psyker inventory and crashed in 10 seconds
the arco special
bitter anvil
Drum rupture
sharp zodiac
I fucking hope not
bitter anvil
You got some shockwave blast from invisible silence explosion
Kek but is better get treatment
sharp zodiac
I made an appointment and I'll be visiting either tomorrow or early Sunday
bitter anvil
Yeah try get some cotton balls stuff the ear stop bleeding
zealous basin
rate my weapons
bitter anvil
Whatthe hell is that non-Darktide game
zealous basin
tf is a darktide
zealous basin
??
drifting wolf
rate my weapons
is that a dragonfly turned into a cutlass
frosty herald
rate my weapons
Last of midpoch
zealous basin
get spooned idiot
zealous basin
is that a dragonfly turned into a cutlass
its a bee
they had to extend its wings
just a lil guy
hushed agate
rate my weapons
Whats this?
zealous basin
last midpoch
hushed agate
Am i going insane or wasnt that game outed for being an asset flip
zealous basin
no?
hushed agate
Must be thinking of a different game than
drifting wolf
i've never heard anything about that and it doesn't really scream asset flip to me
hushed agate
There was an mmo that got announced a while back and they got outed for pretty much all there stuff being flipped assets
Alot of those mmo games look the same to me tbh
hushed agate
Really? What is it then?
zealous basin
arpg π
zealous basin
Diablo like game without working online
online has worked forever silly guy
delicate shadow
it's been in early access for a while and just launched recently, it's not shovelware
hushed agate
I like diablo likes. It on xbox?
frosty herald
Guh
drifting wolf
it is pc exclusive unfortunately
zealous basin
im literally stashin with the homies
frosty herald
I thought the online took a dump at launch
hushed agate
it is pc exclusive unfortunately
FCK
zealous basin
it was rough for like 3 days
glass chasm
Best infantry autogun?
drifting wolf
columnus
zealous basin
colombo
delicate shadow
from everything I've seen of Last Epoch it looks good, but I'd just reinstall PoE or play grim dawn if I need an arpg itch to scratch
every game has server issues on launch these days
frosty herald
Im surprised it even got to 1.0
delicate shadow
why wouldn't it have lol
it's pretty solid from everything I've seen, heard and been told by friends playing it
zealous basin
arpg fans when something that isnt poe has a modicum of success 
frosty herald
Its been in development for some time so it was kind of a backburner in my mind
drifting wolf
servers exploded because of unexpected popularity or something
zealous basin
its so funny to me watching people melt down over every single new launch ever
like bro how do yall not learn
drifting wolf
thank god they redesigned the sentinel's character model actually, before launch bro looked like he was on something else
zealous basin
i just try not to look at my characters
gritty compass
the god emperor does not care about your looks, but about your duty
zealous basin
wow its just like diablo 4
glass chasm
Holy Revenant vs restoring faith
frozen glen
they do the same thing
zealous basin
they do the same thing
you
zealous basin
thx
gritty compass
Holy Revenant vs restoring faith
i run both
drifting wolf
the god emperor does not care about your looks, but about your duty
we should be thankful the god emperor knows us so well by gifting us with BDSM attire, knowing we zealots take great enjoyment out of our own suffering
bitter anvil
we should be thankful the god emperor knows us so well by gifting us with BDSM a...
Hey, thatβs sound slaanesh
drifting wolf
nope
bitter anvil
Yes
gritty compass
It is sound slaanesh
nuh uh
gritty compass
You bandwagon π
nuh uh
hushed agate
What are you heretics talking about
bitter anvil
What are you heretics talking about
They talk about holy revenant and faith restore is bdsm
hushed agate
Oh
minor sage
Must be thinking of a different game than
you're thinking of Dark and Darker,
bitter anvil
minor sage
this is Last Epoch
which is a completely different genre
actually you might not even be thinking of DnD
cuz DnD was accused of it by nexon, but iirc they were vindicated
hushed agate
you're thinking of Dark and Darker,
Dark and darker was at least good wasnt it. Also the game i was talking about lied about the assets
gritty compass
actually you might not even be thinking of DnD
dnd mention
drifting wolf
oh yeah i remember that one, and then another game is being released soon that's basically the same thing
dungeonborne
warped dragon
Darker and Darkest
frosty herald
Are you thinking about solasta?
sharp zodiac
Why do I have to gut fish and kill random wild animals for this fatty
drifting wolf
what game
fading vale
I am so sad I didn't clip that, I yeeted an impact nade straight up in the air at dough and it landed on him 40m away 5 seconds later while running
south folio
you people sure have innovative ways of teamkilling
fading vale
it was beautiful ok
royal vortex
dough executed him
fading vale
this is also true
south folio
sick bastards
north sedge
i gave him the ol' jominator
fading vale
the domeinator
south folio
jom
covert sail
When does the ingame cosmetic store update?
drifting wolf
updates every 2 weeks on thursday i believe, don't remember when the last refresh was
might've been last week
hushed knoll
i gave him the ol' jominator
sharp zodiac
what game
Warframe
Fuck this mission
Whoever came up with the "no mods allowed" missions for Grendel parts I hope their dog blows up
No not the dog, the their child
merry spade
So, today i forgot that the beacon ability only made my allies invulnerable/immune to stun, and reflexively popped it the moment i heard the sound of the thing about to shoot (as i usually do when playing veteran).
The funny thing is that despite being instantly downed, i also happened to pop it at just the right time to save our ogryn and veteran from a silent poxburster that snuck up on them.
fair flax
Ive keeper of the scroll. Ya'll can wear your BDSM kink stuff, I've got real armor.
polar nexus
might've been last week
last week
fair flax
keeper of the scroll is literally the only armor I've ever considered worth it in a bundle
hushed agate
Fuck this mission
Oh the grendel missions
Yeah fuck that
Doesnt help that arbis are needed to access them
ivory marlin
Small children suck ngl
sharp zodiac
Doesnt help that arbis are needed to access them
Yeah
And the parts for some reason involve rare fish meat with bait only accessible at a certain rank
Except for the neuropti
Thank fucking god you can just farm thumpers tho for it
Usually it'll give you at least eno
hushed agate
Ughh thumper farming sucks
sharp zodiac
Now I have to kill some birds and rabbits as well
Yeah
It's basically would you rather get lucky with rare fish one at a time or farm thumpers for a chance of a lot, neither being fun
sharp zodiac
Venus fishing is fun, Cetus fishing is Cetus fishing
And Deimos fishing varies
Depending on whether or not you cleared out the wildlife or not
fleet zealot
the heretics shall know no rest
for I am waiting in stealth
to lacerate flesh tearer them
sharp zodiac
It feels wrong working with an animal conservationist and helping him find the animals only to kill them for the parts needed for the frame
fleet zealot
It feels wrong working with an animal conservationist and helping him find the a...
HUH
i feel like im missing something
south folio
no they're just a psychopath
fleet zealot
no they're just a psychopath
i got that grocery list in me
fair igloo
It feels wrong working with an animal conservationist and helping him find the a...
simaris deserves it for being mean
fleet zealot
my mental illness was bought in bulk in costco then i was the 1 millionth customer so i got the extra bonus
craggy python
my mental illness was bought in bulk in costco then i was the 1 millionth custom...
when im standing in line at starbucks and i get told im their 100th customer (i get my insides placed on the outside)
sharp zodiac
simaris deserves it for being mean
No I'm talking about the plains of eidolon animals
Like the birds and weird jackalopeq
fair igloo
ohhh oopsies
sharp zodiac
no they're just a psychopath
Pot calling the kettle black
south folio
i don't know what you're talking about
sharp zodiac
I know what you did in the 80s
There
No more slaughter
Unfortunately I'll have to wait 72 HOURS
For a non PRIME frame
I think this is the part I sleep and then hunt down wyrms tomorrow
fleet zealot
humble wasp
There
Every time some new shiny grind looter shooter comes out I compare it to Warframe. You just can't outdo insane feature creep and peerless diversity of power fantasy flavors in Warframe.
fleet zealot
except warframe got to the point it is basically inaccessible for a new player
bitter anvil
Yup
gray ice
jokes on you it was never accessible 
bitter anvil
Mastery ranks gatekeep contents
sharp zodiac
Every time some new shiny grind looter shooter comes out I compare it to Warfram...
It's definitely my favorite to grind, despite the annoyance
It could always be worse
gray ice
Yea you could've played anthem
sharp zodiac
He's a big looter shooter fan
gray ice
servers are already offline for anthem afaik
fleet zealot
shit was baffling for new players before and still is
if everyone starts at the same point at around the same time "launch" it is less inaccessible just on thea ccount of everyone being new
sharp zodiac
Nowadays his most played games being Diablo 4 and assassin's Creed black flag and odyssey
gray ice
if everyone starts at the same point at around the same time "launch" it is less...
I would agree if the game had some sort of PvP and I don't mean the fake pvp they have
tropic harbor
If I'm in an game with all psychers as teammates and one of them gets me up when I'm downed, will I become a heretic?
gray ice
like destiny 2 pvp becomes more inaccessible in that sense, but I don't think warframe is the same in my own mind
bitter anvil
Just another extraction shooter
Like battle royal trend shift to extraction shooter they died easily
visual stream
If I'm in an game with all psychers as teammates and one of them gets me up when...
The question itself begets heresy
gray ice
one of the only ones I wanna see about is arc raiders
because the closed test was really interesting to me
with the finals in swing I hope they really start it in on it
humble wasp
Perks and blessing good?
I think it's pretty good in general. No idea about breakpoints at high difficulties.
haughty bone
You'll never one shot a crusher
ok
polar nexus
But yeah, that's a very good thammer
coral trellis
fading vale
I would second cara to flak
hard nexus
junior vortex
I'm just rolling games on darktide so sure
I play on console but it's crossplay
My user is the one in my trusted site on my account in all caps
zealous basin
HOLD UP IM GAMING
small yew
Just got a gun with some EXTREME minmaxed stats for my Zealot
covert sail
Just got a gun with some EXTREME minmaxed stats for my Zealot
Shame the mobility and stability aren't flip flopped
small yew
Shame the mobility and stability aren't flip flopped
I've been using it for a few runs and the stability isn't really a big issue for me
Since I usually wait for 3 stacks of Surgical between each shot
quasi marsh
Since I usually wait for 3 stacks of Surgical between each shot
Low stability on v3 is mainly noticeable if you move and shoot
It's really hard to control between bursts in that case
I don't know if 50 is too low
But it's really apparent if you run like a 20 stability v3 on a new char
Standing still shooting = ok
The moment ur toe moves
small yew
Low stability on v3 is mainly noticeable if you move and shoot
Yeah I know but in the cases where I'm using this gun, I'm not really moving
quasi marsh
The burst kicks everywhere
Ya that's fair just letting you know
Tbh headhunter > surgical on v3 but
small yew
I don't know if 50 is too low
And yeah, it kicks like a mule at 50
quasi marsh
Surgical is playable
small yew
Tbh headhunter > surgical on v3 but
Yeah I'll love getting Headhunter with these odds
quasi marsh
The blessing slot machine strikes again
Been trying to farm a bloodletter 4 on chainswords for nearly 2 week now
small yew
Probably the saddest thing I've seen tonight after testing it out
quasi marsh
Thats tragic
small yew
Can't reliably one tap even with a crit
quasi marsh
If only da4 π
small yew
Yeah, pretty crazy (and annoying) how much that 10% means
quasi marsh
headhunters be like that
v7 on vet is like 20 damage short of 1tap crit on flamers if you dont take rending strikes
imagine spending a talent point just for 20 damage, 1% dmg boost
small yew
Yeah, it's pretty tragic
quasi marsh
but worth π
spare talon
Probably the saddest thing I've seen tonight after testing it out
holy shit john yiik
spare talon
"NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR DEAD EMPEROR"
and a detective detective detective pfp
holy based
hushed agate
https://tenor.com/view/alex-alex-yiik-yiik-sped-up-awesome-gif-75104222718069700...
vibrating with motion
gray ice
I would like for the 2h power axe to be added posthaste, plskthx
lusty turtle
Remove power weapons? Got it
gray ice
oak ermine
Remove power weapons? Got it
But that will also remove Crusher from the game π
lusty turtle
A sacrifice i am forced to make π
I shall lay my child to rest, For the good of all
gray ice
No not good very not good
ivory marlin
Holy shit vin
ivory marlin
Hi vin
gray ice
Hello gale
ivory marlin
Hows life
ivory marlin
Good to hear
gray ice
How about you
gray ice
Oh lawd we've lost another good one
I think I heard it just had some big revamp or somethin
fading vale
I wonder if we'll get to argue about the bolter again today
gray ice
I've been gone is it good now or still shite
fading vale
imo just ok on zealot but is definitely pretty good on vet
lusty turtle
I wonder if we'll get to argue about the bolter again today
It happened again????
fading vale
It happened again????
oh there was like a 30 or 45 minute fairly toxic session yesterday lol
lusty turtle
fading vale
about the exact same thing
lusty turtle
If it gets out of hand let us know
gray ice
Wait has this been an on-going issue
fading vale
there's been a lot of the inexperienced confident argument things going on in the past couple weeks
I want to go back to sleep but idk if I should tough it out and wait a few hours hmm
gray ice
I always Advocate for back to sleep if you think you feel tired enough
Weird how that kinda stuff always pops back up tho
fading vale
well I been up since midnight
laid down again but didn't stay asleep so maybe in a bit
fading vale
oh well, I'll just sleep during the day I guess lol
gray ice
More time to deliver democracy across the galaxy
Surprised how big that turned out to be
gray ice
Ayyy that's the spirit
fading vale
I've heard people are showing up in pubs with mechs too
it is by far the most purely fun game to play with friends I have played I think
gray ice
Yea I feel that for sure
I played with 3 friends and we couldn't breathe through the whole match
fading vale
especially with the goon squad - josho dough stan etc
gray ice
The one random was hysterically bad at airstrikes and killed my buddy 9 times
fading vale
lol
fading vale
yeah I'm never really upset about getting teamkilled or dying in a stupid way
cause it's so damn funny
gray ice
I wonder if this is gonna be the type of game that starts a triple A trend for co-op stuff like this again
gray ice
Yea this game blew up in a way they couldn't have accounted for
I don't think any of their other games cracked like 15k
fading vale
they should just remove the anti cheat though
lusty turtle
both
fading vale
bad and viewed as invasive and yeah some issues
lusty turtle
nProtect is not exactly stable
fading vale
I mean you can just straight up modify the game files to get mechs that aren't implemented
and the anti cheat don't care
lusty turtle
it can randomly stop externals working n stuff
gray ice
Ohh
ember yew
It's causing issues?
honestly i thought that Nprotect died 15+ years ago
lusty turtle
and the anti cheat don't care
the anti cheat literally just exists to protect the cosmetic store
ember yew
it does not protect against anything
gray ice
Well thankfully I got it on ps5
ember yew
cheating and botting been a daily occurence in lineage 2
and its the only game i remember with Nprotect anticheat
fading vale
people are gonna cheat if they want to cheat
gray ice
Welp is what it is ig
fading vale
same shit as initial darktide
ember yew
fading vale
I would like DLSS at some point though
ember yew
i'd like to get FSR 3.0
fading vale
I only get like 90-100 fps max
ember yew
they said that they are working on it
fading vale
and it drops sometimes
lusty turtle
i think lazor means helldivers
fading vale
oh I mean helldivers
lusty turtle
cause DT already has DLSS
ember yew
im an amd user, so yeah
lusty turtle
they've been working on versus since 2019
actually versus atleast they announced ages back they stopped putting dev time into it for like 2-3 years
fading vale
why the fuck are they putting dev time into versus
yeah it does have some FSR version
ember yew
actually versus atleast they announced ages back they stopped putting dev time i...
why the hell they went and announced it then
fading vale
but I want DLSS and frame gen
lusty turtle
because people think versus for l4d was a good game mode aparently
(i have yet to see a sane individual say this)
fading vale
nobody is going to play it other than the people still playing VT
lusty turtle
and even then
ember yew
its just too late for that
lusty turtle
most of them are playing it for the pve
fading vale
right
ember yew
and also it will divide an already small VT2 playerbase
lusty turtle
not even a matter of too late, versus isn't a good mode
fading vale
there will be a handful of the player base yeah
ember yew
of 50 people
lusty turtle
had a guy try and tell me L4D is only alive today because of versus
fading vale
lol
ember yew
well l4d is still like 6 times bigger than vt2
ember yew
partly because there's a lot of amazing mods for l4d
fading vale
what does this cool pve game need hmm I wonder
ember yew
that does not give a shet about copyright
fading vale
oh pvp
lusty turtle
well l4d is still like 6 times bigger than vt2
honestly its mostly ease of access
ember yew
lusty turtle
runs on anything, isn't a complex game to play
ember yew
l4d2
violet hornet
Original l4d was built from the start and balanced for PVP
ember yew
yeah that too
violet hornet
I think it was available in the beta
fading vale
didn't they put pvp in space marine or something
violet hornet
I used to play original l4d on a competitive team lol
lusty turtle
didn't they put pvp in space marine or something
ye but it was a more traditional shooter pvp
violet hornet
didn't they put pvp in space marine or something
They did but it was silly
lusty turtle
everyone just played marines and shot eachother
fading vale
there can't have been many people that played the pvp
lusty turtle
it was a pretty big thing back in the day because it was literally just generic 3rd person shooter with nice feeling controls
fading vale
just feels like a lot of pointless dev time for no return and misunderstanding the market
I see
lusty turtle
its the whole reason eternal crusade happened
fading vale
I'm not super familiar with space marine I suppose
ember yew
its the whole reason eternal crusade happened
i remember the first announce of that game and i was thinking that it will be something like World of Warcraft with factions
lusty turtle
its just a 3rd person shooter, think like gears or something
ember yew
back in like 2010
frosty herald
Space marine is hella fun
fading vale
but I was really confused when I first came into darktide after only having played space marine type content
and even more confused about VT
was like wtf is this warhammer with magic and rats lol
violet hornet
its just a 3rd person shooter, think like gears or something
Only with no cover system lol
lusty turtle
just feels like a lot of pointless dev time for no return and misunderstanding t...
with space marine it kinda made sense, they were chasing teh big thing at the time
which was a shooter with a singleplayer story, but then a thriving multiplayer scene you can sell dlc for
cosmetics, map packs, new game modes
the cod formula
fading vale
never ever heard of warhammer fantasy before playing DT
frosty herald
A multitude of chaos marine chapter skins for pvp
lusty turtle
it just didn't land very well due to poor balance, even if it was fun
fading vale
the cod formula
probably why I rolled my eyes at it initially
violet hornet
The single player campaign for space marine was short enough to be completed in a couple days, pvp was the only way to retain any kind of playerbase
fading vale
I absolutely loathe the entire existence of cod
lusty turtle
based
fading vale
it was just like every shooter became cod when I was in prime teenage gaming years....
lusty turtle
ye it sucked!
fading vale
and then everything turned into a console port
lusty turtle
glad i stuck with rts despite it dying out
lusty turtle
yes, i still play it
fading vale
damn
lusty turtle
best rts ever made, the fanbase run a project (FAF) where they are still patching the game
fading vale
I think supcom and bfme are my favorite rts
fading vale
best rts ever made, the fanbase run a project (FAF) where they are *still patchi...
oh really? that's wild
I played so much lotrbfme2rotwk
lusty turtle
i played bfme 1 but need to try 2 at some point
fading vale
the customs were really cool, idk if you can find that kinda stuff now
lusty turtle
big recommend trying sup com again with faf if u still enjoy RTS
its an actual glowup
they improved the lighting engine n all
fading vale
I'm pretty bad at rts games though and no longer have the will to learn or spend the time
I enjoy watching on occasion
lusty turtle
idk, i know gyle does casts for random matches on youtube
ember yew
I'm pretty bad at rts games though and no longer have the will to learn or spend...
i enjoyed Dawn of War 1 series and Company of Heroes 1 and 2 for something like 10000 hours +
good times
sad CoH 3 is shet
lusty turtle
some of its ladder matches, but most of it is just show off matches
hang on lemme grab my fav timestamp
fading vale
idk, i know gyle does casts for random matches on youtube
Prolly good enough for me, I imagine anyone still playing knows how to play pretty well
lusty turtle
uuuh ye some of this shits wild haha
ember yew
oh and Red Alert / C&C series back in the day, gimme Red Alert 2 remastered, cmon EA
fading vale
I think part of my problem with playing rts is I always watch high level play where dudes have 200+ APM and perfect micro/macro
and I'm just like yeaaaaah that ain't me
ember yew
that's for competitive titles like SC2 yeah
frank night
multiplayer tends to be best with buddies
but even then I had a time where a guy who played fairly high up on ladder came in and didn't understand that more people than just him were allowed to have fun
lusty turtle
Prolly good enough for me, I imagine anyone still playing knows how to play pret...
this match finale is bonkers
frank night
so that ended the bro scene starcraft 2 matches
I used to be p big into age of empires and stuff like that but when I went back to it after many many years it turns out that the whole resourcing and base building thing is an actual science
and if u mess it up in multiplayer u will be captured and executed by the milanese
fading vale
https://youtu.be/iGDCmy0IDV4?t=2823
this game is so damn cool but I have absolutely no idea what anything does anymore lol
lusty turtle
i've been watching a lot to learn, gyle tries to explain some stuff, like why he slaps down stealth and aims for where he is but even hes not a player so he misses some stuff
rocky marsh
zealot should get a rocket powered hammur
fading vale
aka build thrust into hammer pls
lusty turtle
and keep thrust as a blessing ontop?
fading vale
no
rocky marsh
i want the god eater rocket hammer
lusty turtle
this game is so damn cool but I have absolutely no idea what anything does anymo...
but ye big recommend, some of its bonkers but you pick it up, especially if you watch from the start of the match instead of an hour in
lusty turtle
i just picked that one since its the craziest shit
fading vale
just make thrust a weapon property
rocky marsh
i thought thrust is the longer you hold down the heavy attack the harder it hits?
fading vale
but ye big recommend, some of its bonkers but you pick it up, especially if you ...
yeah I imagine starting an hour in doesn't help
fading vale
i thought thrust is the longer you hold down the heavy attack the harder it hits...
yeah
which is kinda like rocket powered
rocky marsh
i just want a fast but commital hammer
the normal hammer feel too slow for me
rocky marsh
its so slow, and that time i didn't run stealth (didnt have hte desire) so no 1 tap bosses
lusty turtle
hammer feels great where it is
rocky marsh
until i thought to myself why not just play ogryn
lusty turtle
just don'y run stealth
rocky marsh
sorry pls no trigerred
lusty turtle
stealth hammer is cring
frosty herald
stealth hammer is cring
fading vale
tbh I view current crucis as a good balance baseline, I mean of course I do but I genuinely think it is
lusty turtle
na i agree, its potent but has some weaknesses
frosty herald
hmmmm stealth ironhelm my favourite
rocky marsh
im going off personal views.
because as a player the cruxis hammer really just made me feel like a less tanky oggie
lusty turtle
it can throw ragers around and anything else with heavies, but no one talks about it because you need stacks and the heavies aren't safe to charge
fading vale
I mean ogryn will be nerfed
frozen glen
me when i have an unlimited resource that can one shot 3 crushers at once
fading vale
they are waaaaay too strong and free rn
lusty turtle
it'll get nerfed if i get my way
rocky marsh
i like oggie as it is, good training wheels for the game
fading vale
you just can't let free 75%+ DR exist in this game
frosty herald
fatshark will always balance around malice and the casual playerbase
fading vale
but fatshark is fatshark so idk
lusty turtle
you just can't let free 75%+ DR exist in this game
+90% 
rocky marsh
pretty sure they don't at least not primarily
alot of the weapon breakpoints you can tell were with damn in consideration
cough, the fucking god roll needed weapons like caxe, GG, trauma staff
fading vale
I will say they have nerfed almost everything I have wanted them to nerf after some period of time, but then they follow it with power creep
rocky marsh
i would love them to nerf vet
fading vale
did you say you need a god roll caxe
fading vale
literally slap BM on a rashad, run marty, and gg
lusty turtle
i would love them to nerf vet
any reason why
frozen glen
caxe can live with just bm and headtaker
lusty turtle
i want bm dead
quasi marsh
Vet needs godroll for caxe is probably why they said that
Zel has enough melee bonus to run a meh one
rocky marsh
yeh very sad, am vet main now
fading vale
vet is in a bit of a weird position, I think they can do waaaaay too much damage with several weapons but a lot of players are bad
and just die instead
rocky marsh
any reason why
the psword + pgun + shout combo gave rise to alot of brain rot i witness in pubs
like what lazorr said
lusty turtle
oh ye no way psword and pgun don't get nerfed
rocky marsh
and just die instead
AND JUST GET DOGGED BECAUSE SHOUT ON COODOWN AND THEY CAN"T DODGE
lusty turtle
i think shout on its own is fine, i hope instead they look at CDR as a whole
CDR needs to be killed
quasi marsh
Make exec worth taking on more than like 3 guns and infiltrate pathing not doodoo shit before you nerf shout
lusty turtle
exe is great what
quasi marsh
I promise more ppl would play infil alone if it didn't tax you like 4 pts
fading vale
they kind of fucked the balance against crushers maulers and ragers overall imo
quasi marsh
Exec is meh on a lot of guns that aren't already weaker than others bc they hit their own bps
fading vale
just across every class
frosty herald
kill brutal momentum and people will take sunder instead
quasi marsh
As an example
fading vale
sunder doesn't give you 4 kills
lusty turtle
they kind of fucked the balance against crushers maulers and ragers overall imo
honestly, i think this is a crit chance issue
crit chance is too damn high across the board
fading vale
there's that and also some weapons are just egregious against them
and others are weak
lusty turtle
everyone except ogryn rocking minimum 50% crit is just π
quasi marsh
I say 3 guns for exec bc basically only some lasgun, automatics and bolter run it in any meaningful capacity
rocky marsh
take oggie toughness, but give me rocket fist so every punch launches him forward
i want rocket weapons so bad
lusty turtle
i run exe for agri shotgun
rocky marsh
imagine you can do left hook that strafes you to the right
fading vale
and they adjusted health values and also buffed some weapons/introduced new weapons without really handling the overall balance
fading vale
lusty turtle
16 ragers in the showers
fading vale
don't worry it'll only take 100 hammer heavies to kill them
rocky marsh
it feels like they are changing blob sizes every patch, atm i feel its
rager x3
crusher x6
Bulwark x3
shotgunner x5
gunner x12
mauler x3, x2 if mixed.
i wrote that some tiem ago
quasi marsh
I do think power creep has gone too far
rocky marsh
rager x3 hot patrol, just the spawn in when horde comes
quasi marsh
Earlier I was telling someone what melee can kill crusher fast
I ended up naming every single vet melee except dclaw
Lol
rocky marsh
what about heavy sword
fading vale
psword 6 be like, poke
quasi marsh
Let me know when u can run heavy sword on vet
rocky marsh
shovel special one shot?
quasi marsh
Basicallt every uncanny weapon can spam it to death
rocky marsh
goddam
fading vale
oh yeah the new shovel
rocky marsh
godddam
quasi marsh
But it's not just vet
I can take a fucking taxe and spam a crusher to death on zealot
fading vale
DS4
rocky marsh
does oggie shovel folded one shot the other oggie?
fading vale
ogryn shovel
quasi marsh
They are just paper now
fading vale
does oggie shovel folded one shot the other oggie?
it can one shot 4 at a time with BM
without stacking buffs
rocky marsh
am scrub so still afraid to fight more than 2 crusher with melee
personally still can't do 6
they should get rid of the crusher shove that does half your toughness
i fucking hate that
its so fast too
i dodged the fast OH but never dodged the shove
fading vale
meanwhile my fucking hammer can't one shot crushers without chastise unless you have 2 billion buffs with marty, duelist, max thrust, a few slaughterer stacks, and carapace perk
fading vale
"without chastise"
rocky marsh
0h
quasi marsh
Yeah I don't really like cruxis anymore bc it feels like it didn't keep up with everything else
quasi marsh
Everythkng else has some strikedown move that just deletes armor for free
rocky marsh
charged can one hit crusher with pa/special (can't rmb which one was said)
but hammer can't.
quasi marsh
Or can spam it out to death with uncanny
rocky marsh
that is so sad.
fading vale
I still enjoy hammer but it has been power crept for sure
rocky marsh
lazorr do you use critspam or judgement for hammer
ember yew
meanwhile my fucking hammer can't one shot crushers without chastise unless you ...
yeah, that's stupid, considering the drawbacks it would be nice to oneshot crusher w/o chastice, at least with the hit on the head
fading vale
I would never run crit on hammer, so judgement
rocky marsh
why? the scaling not good?
quasi marsh
I only run ironhelm now tbh
fading vale
why? the scaling not good?
it's not a finesse weapon
quasi marsh
Just since it can actually do more than push around hordes and still mostly fulfills the delete boss niche
lusty turtle
why? the scaling not good?
.3 finesse (crits are only a 30% dmg boost)
rocky marsh
ah, so it benefit so much from chatise because of the armour downgrade?
fading vale
and your attack speed is relatively low
and also you do a lot of single target where you kill things anyways
quasi marsh
But you know
The worst part is
If they buff enemy or nerf everything down
I still will be annoyrd
rocky marsh
psword is there since i came in at p13
how come psword so stronk compared to thammer
fading vale
base crucis with max thrust does around 1800 damage to a crusher which is pain
quasi marsh
Bc all my bps are ruined and all my weapon investments have to be changed
quasi marsh
Like my v7 on vet literally passes some BP by like 10 dmg
quasi marsh
So even a small change will ruin everything
ember yew
im trying to collect every weapon with the best possible perk/quality in case FS pull this stunt
rocky marsh
so vet players ask for it to be OP?
fading vale
do you recall what happened when they nerfed psword the first time
lusty turtle
Bc all my bps are ruined and all my weapon investments have to be changed <:KEKW...
which is prob why they haven't shifted it about ye
quasi marsh
Ya
rocky marsh
i don't think i was there good sir
fading vale
the game got review bombed on steam
ember yew
mobs x20
quasi marsh
Since it doesn't change bps
quasi marsh
Ya if crafting wasn't fucked then it wouldn't be a problem
rocky marsh
the game got review bombed on steam
quasi marsh
But that is a dead horse
rocky marsh
i see that my hate against vet mains is justified
quasi marsh
Have spent 2 weeks trying to find bloodletter iv
rocky marsh
π
fading vale
I think a few of the review bombs were from flamer users too
rocky marsh
lazorr
fading vale
over a literal 0 nerf
rocky marsh
they should make psword charge as long as the bolter draw time
just make it look cool
like goku charging his power
or something like that
fading vale
my motto is don't do things that make the player feel like they lose too much agency over the game
because that's never fun
quasi marsh
Cycler should not even be a thing and it should have 3 swings base and the last block cancel tech buff wasn't necessary
Idk I was perfectly happy using it during p13 when people meme on it
fading vale
like back when hammer animation cancel was removed I malded so hard
fading vale
the nerf I was talking about you could swing the psword like.... 7 times?
ember yew
my motto is don't do things that make the player feel like they lose too much ag...
We are in a decline rn, partly due to "no content" (3 months since last content update) and things like Helldivers 2, Palworld, Enshrouded/etcetc, which takes people away from DT. They can't afford nerfs right now.
rocky marsh
like back when hammer animation cancel was removed I malded so hard
see, i think this game needs more tech.
they should make some nodes specifically to reward tech.
But i don't see anyone in here asking for those. very sad.
everyone just want more content and some stat balances
fading vale
and it also had a bajillion cleave back then
good weapon changes: recent knife stuff, and crusher
even though people still want to mindlessly light spam the knife with lacerate....
quasi marsh
Man
There are some ppl that come to vet chat to push lacerate knife no matter how many ppl tell them It's bad
fading vale
knife has actual tech now and different attacks have different properties
fading vale
bleed knife vet bro wooooo
quasi marsh
At least I could see someone going "bleed synergy + lacerate" on zealot lmao
fading vale
I think it's a simple matter of the word "bleed" and people go wow so cool
quasi marsh
But on vet it's literally
lusty turtle
We are in a decline rn, partly due to "no content" (3 months since last content ...
na they can afford nerfs
rocky marsh
There are some ppl that come to vet chat to push lacerate knife no matter how ma...
everytime i go to vet chat to ask for stuff i have to read things twice and ask myself each time "does this make sense if you think about it"
quasi marsh
"WHy kill in one attack when I can just wait for it to bleed out in 10"
fading vale
people like to shit on zealot chat but you will never get wrong information here unless none of the people are online
lusty turtle
but what if they upset remaining 10 people
good riddence π€
rocky marsh
everytime i go to vet chat to ask for stuff i have to read things twice and ask ...
some guy was pushing survivalist really hard in my build even when one of the pinned guide people was ok with me running the +5% sprint speed
fading vale
I mean survivalist is horrendously overpowered so
rocky marsh
i explained that i needed one of the nodes tat lead up to sprint speed
lusty turtle
some guy was pushing survivalist really hard in my build even when one of the pi...
ignore survivalist
rocky marsh
the +damage on weapon swap
lusty turtle
embrace actual ammo economy
fading vale
unless it's scab melee only then you better fucking bring survivalist
quasi marsh
Scab melee only is the only time I bring surv nowadays
Bc I feel like I'm griefing too hard if I go speed aura lul
rocky marsh
ignore survivalist
yeah they were saying like even if you don't need the ammo, taking survivalist will help your team
quasi marsh
They aren't wrong
fading vale
yeah cause everyone will be 0 ammo like 5 minutes into the game
rocky marsh
but then, who cares about the team
rocky marsh
i care about my own fun more
fading vale
killing 400 elites and 200 specials
ember yew
yeah cause everyone will be 0 ammo like 5 minutes into the game
This is an actual truth
fading vale
field improv is also horrendously overpowered
rocky marsh
even without survivalist if everyone rations ammo somewhat okayish
quasi marsh
They really need to make surv a global passive and balance around it
Like gunners all drop ammo
rocky marsh
no one will run out of ammo more than 1 checkpoint :v
quasi marsh
Or someshit
fading vale
no one will run out of ammo more than 1 checkpoint :v
scab melee only has no ammo pickups
rocky marsh
scab melee only has no ammo pickups
ok other than scab melee bossman
quasi marsh
Damage and speed aura on vet are actually decent but surv is so out of line ur forced to take it for minmax
fading vale
ye
lusty turtle
there is ALWAYS enough ammo
ember yew
the biggest offenders are ogryns though, who are magdumping into everything and 3 minutes later run at 0/800
the hell
fading vale
you don't need survivalist generally other than that mode but so many people love magdumping and not using melee
rocky marsh
Damage and speed aura on vet are actually decent but surv is so out of line ur f...
on this point, i told the guy that was pushing survivalist so hard, that if i wanted to min max i would have run psword + pgun anyway
quasi marsh
Also game can't be balanced around it since ur not guaranteed to have it
So the actual vet running surv just picks up 0 ammo all game and ends with a full stash
It's just dumb
rocky marsh
i love using melee and not touching gun.
But my skills on zealot can't do that so i embraced vet where i can use them equally as much
fading vale
I mean there's just not really an option to ignore using ranged weapons in this game
waaaaay too many high value targets for that
that spawn all over the place
rocky marsh
you guys keep convincing me that all i needed to do was slide and chatise more, but i still can't melee only after taking that advice
fading vale
not to mention the efficacy of killing large groups of elites with ranged
rocky marsh
;-;
fading vale
nobody does melee only
there are people that say it
but they are stupid
you just use ranged when you can mix it in and for big groups and high value targets
rocky marsh
yeh gun too strong, my kant shotgun can 2 shot the rager with no harm to myself
thats why i moved on to vet
stable cypress
if you really want to melee only play vermintide 2
rocky marsh
VT2 sucks (for me, don't get triggered pls)
stable cypress
and enjoy getting blightstormed as slayer/grail knight/priest
ember yew
rocky marsh
i tried it twice, twice it just feels like im playing l4d2 but can only press RMB ( shove )
fading vale
VT2 sucks (for me, don't get triggered pls)
I couldn't play it after playing DT, hadn't played VT before that though
it just doesn't feel right compared to DT
rocky marsh
it just doesn't feel right compared to DT
even the camera in VT2 is weird
like you are a toy in a barbie house
stable cypress
At this point I just hate not being able to run same class/character in official realm
rocky marsh
the relative height and size of everything feels very off
fading vale
also the tuning of the melee combat feel is waaaaay better in DT
I feel like I'm swinging a wet noodle in VT
rocky marsh
i tried it twice, twice it just feels like im playing l4d2 but can only press RM...
@fading vale i see so you feel the same way
itsl ike you do nothing and then the enemies just drop dead after doing enough nothing
fading vale
yup
rocky marsh
which is why i always felt VT2 was overrated, but i think im going to get flamed each time i say this
fading vale
I mean I might have enjoyed it if I didn't play DT first
but it's not like I can go back
rocky marsh
i tried vt2 twice before i came on p13
beta testing dt was disgusting as well but for other reasons
ember yew
which is why i always felt VT2 was overrated, but i think im going to get flamed...
well VT2 is worse than Darktide, but it can't be helped, it was amazing back in the day
rocky marsh
i tried it "back in the day"
ember yew
but time goes on and it's a 6 years old game now
rocky marsh
at that point i told myself i rather play chiv with zombie ai
and there was such a thing.
ember yew
fading vale
I kinda liked the maps in VT though
rocky marsh
i like th emaps but i don't like playing the maps
the size scaling is very weird for me
trim zenith
tried vt2 after dt as well, couldn't understand how it's better when it feels primitive next to this game
frank night
dishonestly
rocky marsh
i can imagine like 5 people lurking that is absolutely fuming but can't type their 200 word reddit essay on why im wrong and vt2 is amazing
fading vale
tbh most people here agree with what we said overall, when comparing the 2 games
so I don't think that would happen
rocky marsh
i tried that once in general and got flamed
lusty turtle
i think the only person i'm aware of that prefers VT is incan, but he plays heavily modded
fading vale
yeah but that's uh, GENERAL CHAT
frank night
ppl in zel chat aint exactly shy about starting fights