#zealot-class
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god where are my god damn force weapons
(that ideally have some semblance of balance)
this is like THE weakest aspect of psyker
give veteran a grenade launcher primary
Wheres the new staves at
my 7 god damn force weapons
well i was counting swords
thank god i love deimos and illisi
even if they are overtuned
I want a force revolver that has a special attack of letting us ricochet bullets off of enemies or walls into other enemies
I want my magic cowboy power fantasy
let me be interested in Psyker and go on anti-psyker rants again
i quake
the world rumbles
surely arco wouldnt rant about me
never
that would imply u are a real psyker
you've made the good decision of not being in na west coast
stop listening to arco
west coast best coast
he is unable to spit anything other than falsehoods
Mini-rumbler causes indirect survivalist aura buff 
well given arco plays with me i would imagine im at least tolerable but maybe its just pity
when did stan name you rivers
possibly
I'm actually really surprised vet doesn't have a grenade launcher or some kind of explosive primary... ik it's probably cuz he already has grenades and all the grenade perks but still!!
I'm less close minded before so there's that
4 days ago
what kind of insane self depreciative logic is "this man is playing videogames with me out of pity"

look man
you would know josho
i was mostly joking in my defense
lol Xbox users are begging for helldivers
I was FORCED to play with yoshi
Hmm rotary grenade launcher for vet
held at gunpoint
who is forcing u arco
so true
If u don't play with them u'll ruin their night and make them cry
the gobbahment
i put the intel sticker on my microwave
how many cores does it have now
why
why not
it allows for overclocking on the microwave
You don't wanna dodge roll into your living room table?
Gets command grabbed once entire floor covered in vomit
imagine how fun it would be trying to play darktide in vr
but what about skyrim with VR and a treadmill
you hear a trapper and you instinctively jump to the side into a table and die
this sounds more entertaining to me honestly
You hit the side of your ribcage on the corner of the table
top 10 ways to die
The guy who made an ER VR mod changed dodging into sidestepping so it's more bearable
I can feel the pain just reading this ๐ญ
at least you died playing darktide
ok but imagine dying because you were hitting a crazy solo clutch
Lets get a England Sim VR game
would that not be epic
your loved ones will know that you were a real gamer
it's okay i still have another wound someone just needs to walk into the room and pick me up
But boss fights still sound horrible
op
so true
My neck would hurt from trying to hit plogryns in the head
i would still not want to fight like morgott where i need to dodge 5 times in a row
simply be taller
IMAGINE SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE 7 FT PLAYING DARKTIDE IN VR AND HE'S THE SAME HEIGHT AS A PLOGRYN
i always flex my solo clutches on zealot to women at parties
does it work
Godzilla height
no
It's because you mentioned it was on zealot, duhhh
L
i mention my crusher guide to all potential suitors
if i was arcos wingman i would show them that knife solo clutch
every filipino woman u see
surely this would work
absolutely NOT
absolutely
you should advertise your ability to screech at babies too
my ability was challenged
Biches love it when i brag about my totally legit twins hardmode kill solo
If i went to a blind date and he told me he played knife zealot i'd call the cops
i could not back down
why are you like this
joshos type is Filipino women? damn
dont worry josho ive tried spreading your crusher guide to as many as i could
are they into screeching by chance
we all know you are more of a LIBERTY kind of guy
what if it was a fleshtearer lacerate knife
this is absolutely not true and i hate redverse
with + crit dmg
It depends on if he runs it with blades of faith/shroud/revolver or not
you truly do deserve the worst
so you hate Filipino women? racist
immediately stab them with my steak knife
do they have to be mutually exclusive
i wont lie i defaulted to racist
my steak knife that has suspiciously rounded edges and serrated edges that seem more suited for cutting softer foods
i would hope im not both
use a bread knife
putting all my effort into cutting an onion is natural
josho is also a cishet (derogatory)
a dull bread knife, to cut everything

@south folio can u shut the fuck up pls
not from here
stop typing
For some reason whenever someone picks it up they stab it into the middle of the steak claiming it does more damage
i HATE arco
it's from the cool kids place
shlerp hnghnnhngngngg

i figured
CEASE
josho told me not to enter
they have healthcare enabled irl
:D
did they need to roll all their dockets
god imagine having healthcare enabled irl
Calling my knife can opener the way it cracks open armor
cringe
I think we could permit you to enter
thi s is so funny to me for some reason oh my god
u would be fine to enter
oh i mean like
u would just need to be prepared
you warned me against entering
for full stan
it's like cyberpunk where the ambulance refuses to rescue ppl because they don't have healthcare enabled
i didnt know what i was joining when laz invited me to play darktide
lol
arcos this weird contrast between the nicest to me in game and the meanest to me in chat
ok if I switch to my side will Steve move to under my arm
The embodiment of the bully ogryn voice
it's all a part of my plans
hes just a qt lil tsundere uwu
i think i am prepared (hopefully)
i do expect arco to just full murder me one day
i did try to barrel him once
i dont think he noticed cause he killed himself
Gonna barrel josho next update
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he will subject you to either
A. Lasagna
B. Jar
You won't be able to because he's going to die to poxbursters before u can
I do not recall this but I will hold this against you in the future
id rather be a lasagna ngl
OwO
I have bad memories of lasagna from valentines day
Tbh hes probably getting netted by the first trapper
it was on oubuliette
thats not how you spell it
you get the idea
oobleck
do i want to know
hmmmm
its so sad that arco only has 3 months left to live until the incident
uh, just left it in the oven after her and I passed out from being in a toxic alcoholic relationship and what not
and then I'll haunt you
it was fucked but somehow the oven got turned off
perhaps
sorry to hear about that :(
top was pretty crispy lol
I spent like $60 on it and a lot of time and made like, real lasagna
only to ruin it
better than having frozen lasagna microwave food like the only thing arco can make
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do they make microwave lasagna
i thought you at least had to put it in the oven
idk arco said he has some
gotta use the residual laptop heat somehow
but on the bright side I got a gift from God in that relationship
so hes threatening to turn us into lasagna but cant make it
steve is truly the greatest gift
good catto
there any good knife builds for a zealot
honestly no clue, not sure if I ever had one that wasn't something default
fair
@south folio has one on hand i think
i would post mine but i dont have it atm
for the most part though take any crit/finesse talents
so like scourge/duellist/piety
stuff like that
The disease spreads ๐
ah so its most a crit thing got ya along with talents
yeah knife is one of the weapons where you'd go all into crits
this is what i typically run
though i run flamer to cover my lack of CC
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or you can play judgement and be a mosquito around bosses
knife W outdistancing bosses and having to walk closer so that you can hit them
i still hate knife 
yeah i like judgement
i like knife now that i realize that you can release the heavies earlier
however i would recommend piety over it still
and that it's basically zealot's duelling sword because of the absurd crit chance that you can rack up
It's so strange to me how zealot's 2 most popular playstyles are either tf2's spy or demoknight
high mobility knives make me sad whenever i have to dodge
me having to wait before attacking a plogryn after dodging because otherwise i'm just too far away
i kinda have a thing against knife zealots cuz the ones i remember meeting were really toxic and like did nottt help the team
so true
Arcotash as well
wtf
Goddamn toxic little shits
The one I remember the most was where they'd run like 2 tiles ahead and leave the 3 of us behind, and the other 2 players were really new so they'd both go down and i'd go to save them and then i'd eventually get trappered or something after rezzing and they'd just die again
And once they were the last person alive they would "clutch hordes" by running them around in a circle for 5 mminutes until shroud came off cooldown so they could kill 1 bulwark
you bastard

yeah at least with knife zealots it's easy to see if they're being lil shits
arco actually falls behind with knife cause he uses it to roomba lol
i had this knife infiltrate vet who would just run ahead and stealth and the aggro would come onto us
u can see arco being a lil shit whenever he breathes
and he'd just be sitting in airlocks
Forcibly injecting executor and uncanny into knife users
your audacity is too much
What if arco's story is just him telling what he did while playing zealot >:o
the plot twist is that it was me all along
redverses ability to avoid the jar this long is truly impressive
his time will come
WHAT
when is arco going to start his ogryn arc
I thought arco was an AI that only sent msges in zealot and psyker chat
will eliminate arco
so false
Knife ogryn
don't worry i am never playing ogryn ever in the foreseeable future
hey ogryn is fun okay
ogryn's weapon swapping makes me want to die and there are a few other things that make me not like ogryn
whats wrong with the weapon swapping
but but but ๐
switching to your melee has a noticeable delay compared to the human classes
if u mean like how slow it is I think that only applies to kickback and rumbler
mankar was struggling through ogryn to try and get him to level 30 cause he saw you did
LMAO
L
he killed me
I think that might be cuz of the gun u were using
the weapon switch speed should be normal unless ur using kickback/rumbler
ya
i have been rumbled
u have to wait for the animation to finish on the gun before u can switch to melee with those 2 specifically
possibly even kicked back
ogryn is slower overall
it's why every other class can like spam switch weapons with mousewheel but ogryn with that gun can't
but idk about wep swap
hey hey hey don't underestimate bull rush spam ogryn builds with bullyclubs
they're basically bigger chastise zealots
yeah it's strong but i just hate the sluggish feeling
i fear my braincells rotting in its entirety if i play ogryn in fullness
arco uses knife/DS4
hi puri
ogryn is the fastest moving character though, if using cleaver
He's only beaten out by knife

Not too fond of bullrush ogryns pushing every enemy down
he is fast
i absolutely loveee playing ogryn cuz i just like pretending to be a giant tank man that hits ppl with a giant metal rectangle while taking 0 damage
im surprised you like mk6 psword
haha ogryn block bullet
people calling ogryn slow and lumbering cause they only use shield and clubs 
amirite
at least pswords have push-attacks to occupy myself with
But it applies tons of bleed stacks and instant max skullcrusher stacks for 30% more damage ๐ฅบ
since that is the one part of pswords that is just genuinely amazing
tbf pre wep update clubs were like the only thing to really use aside from BB
more bleeding enemies means more crits for zealotssss think about itt...
for melee
Yeah but my perfectly lined up eviscerator chain
Mah kills
Mah perfectly planned plays
and at least on vet there's the risk of actually dying
should have been faster >:D
mua ha ha
you having flashbacks luna
luna was born like 8 months ago
lunas a 2000 year old dragon wym
Luna is -2 years old
stay away
arco do you have a fear of people in masks
no
are you just saying that so i wont use it against you
no
does the lack of bold make it less aggressive
i invoke my "i'm a vet main" defense
arco go to sleep
10 am
arco does not play psyker anymore
cringe
you will be beaten over the head with a crt tv
ok arco you cannot pickup a crt tv like that sorry
thats actually illegal so
i will break my back to annihilate redverse
no
stealing this thanks
came to zealot chat to thank you people for helping me carry two brain damaged amoebas through auric damnation
idk how you do it
we become numb to the pain
the emperors will
everyone needs a zealot in their squad, makes the fun times even more amazing
Why is that kiwi green
I'm going to beat you to death with a crusher
Why would you beat someone to death with a crusher
It kills so fast, wheres the fun in that
special spam to ragdoll them to death
Fate worse than death, truly
you can't, god gave me immortality to further my suffering
did someone say ragdoll
I think someone did
You have been cursed to play only single shot standard lasgun vet - so you truly suffer
me fr fr
i'll beat god to death with a crusher D:<
Also like 6 unreleased items got shown off
I cannot spoiler stuff on mobile so I won't post the pics, ||but they're arc shotgun, boltgun rifle that explodes properly, crossbow, plasma shotgun, TP backpack that saves your life, and a bigger supply backpack||
now add the control reversal enemies
Oh hey I remember like 2 of those
One used to be a perk and the other fucking sucked
Yeah hell let loose is actually quite fun
It's even got mg spots on the back
ARE THESE OUT YET??
No
Honestly it's probs not gonna be super limited
But displacement field actually reappearing is neat
Moving it to backpack is probably a good idea
It's gonna give people who struggle with hunters and stalkers a whole new playing field
Thats what it did in the first game as well
I know
First it checked if theres a friendly shooting at things
If no, then it checked for the closest landmine
If yes on either, it teleported you directly into it so you get killed anyways
Late night Dorktiding:
actually I wonder how vehicles are going to be affected by landmines and traps
I wonder if with the implementation of them they'll also be implementing anti vehicle traps?
i never played helldivers 1 sadly so i wouldn't know
Honestly a really funny way to give the backpack a % failure rate since you're dodging a fatal blow anyway
Finally that missing illuminate tech we somehow donโt have though
Vehicles in hd1 were allergic to just about everything
Including friendly fire
Helldiver small arms would fuck them up if you missed consistently
wowww helldiver weapons mmust either be rlllly strong or they just had NO budget leftover for vehicles lolll
Time to give this game a run ofa time
why are there transmissions lmao
dont tell me i gotta ddr the gear shifting
APC is defenitely built lighter than last time though
bet its to keep it from high centering on the 3-d terrain
imagine playing video games
Cringe really
I think the helldiver bayonet also damaged it so probably the latter
No, really good knoife 
HAV and Bastion were the only vehicles immune to small arms fire Maybe APC was as well? Cant remember, no one used it over HAV
sometimes I will just leave a match and clsoe the game if I feel like my team is gonna be super annoying
I was about to say one and then realized I was objectively the good one there
So instead I find teammates' aerial blasted animations way too satisfying
And also sometimes use red barrels as transportation
Sometimes when I play shieldgryn I stand in front of enemies i'm about to kill to block my teammates shots so they don't steal the kill from me
sometimes
This ainโt a slab sin confession. Ration Club is two channels down
(Joking)
bots tend to be nicer than most players at this hour anyway
Derogatory creatures
I think it's funny they gave the bots ogryn passive for revives
At least for in fire
Is this a sin?
5 Praise the Emperor and you are forgiven
I will crush them will all of my might
Why does everyone wanna hurt me
Im just a little creature
Sometimes, when I see someone use a Helbore or a Mk III HH, I'll stand infront of their shots and if they hit me I barrel them later in the mission.
Okay that is just malicious
Self Flagellation for one month
I'm single handedly preparing the community for the worst case scenario.
If friendly fire turns on im gonna uninstall
Reinstall 3 days later cause im addicted
But bring a bolter only for use against teammates who shoot me in the back too much
Find the ranged weapon that does the most annoying chip damage ever (cough recon cough Flamer) and just spam it into people.
I have holy revenant bitch asses if you proc my death save im using you for the HP restore with 0 mercy
I let a fellow pilgrim die when they refused to drop the grimoir and started cursing over mic when we asked him to drop them (it was an a high intensity shock-troop gauntlet on damnation).
That isnโt even a sin
Grim reward has sucked for a long time now and it is a dick move to take them unless the team agrees
You did the emperorโs will
But i literally stood there and watched as a dog tore into him, and a pushed an oncoming poxburster in his general direction
The Emperor works in mysterious ways
Rest easy kindred
Is there a setting or a mod that makes Weapon Special on already revved chainswords not turn it off but reset the duration instead
I dont think so?
The button acts like a toggle while it is on
I highly doubt there is a way to skip that and just refresh
Id just animation cancel the best i can
Hll and Gotham knights were quite fun
That's too bad. I'm using a memey eviscerator build where I spam special attacks like it's a force sword, and if the thing I'm swinging at gets killed before I connect, the button turns it off and not hitting the button might allow the duration to run out
Mk2?
ActivateH1QQ-> activateH1QQ
Or any similar animation cancel will do save time
MkXV, spamming rev lights with Bloodthirsty for constant crits against hordes (also seems to bypass the 4 target limit) or chaining rev heavies on elites
Idk sounds cringe to me and def not something i do
Bloodthirsty is a waste of crit chance if you are going a crit build since all your other crit sources are worthless past 100%
Hope you find someone to help you
I use it with Momentum most of the time, gotta go fast
In any case it's annoying when I rev attack something, hit the button again to rev attack the next thing, but the first swing missed (or someone else killed it first) and the second button press just turned it off
BT momentum is def a meme alright
I just go rampage perfect strike on mk15
Barely ever use the activated lights
But mk15 is meme so i guess it doesnt matter
Space executioner sword
QQ also never worked for me either, even tried using macros for it in VT2. Maybe it's because my potato PC can't maintain framerate but QQ macros that worked perfectly in the keep would shit the bed in actual games
Momentum the talent, not the weapon blessing. I use Rampage+Bloodthirsty. It actually works pretty well IME
Double tapping
Because double tapping doesn't work either
Tide games have eaten my inputs regularly since VT1
the amount of art made about that video is insane and all of them are really great
Definitely!! it's iconic
10/10 clip
Thank you
My time on cerb is so bad
REAL
I used to have a decent time on 1-4 before i quit the gameee
this isn't my pb for 1-4 but the other one has annoying background audio
Jesus
i useddd to have wr but then drama and stuff happened w/ the friend group i was in and then it made me quit the game xD
Oh damn
i have alot of funny clips tho :D
I love that
i haven't really played alot of destiny so idk much about it xD
amazing text lollll
Thank you
i think besides ultrakill and darktide i really only have tf2 clipsss i don't play alot of games
Most of my clips are fortnite wins
I have auto clipping and never bothered to fix it
that's why i use obs replay buffer >:D
as long as u remember to turn it on at least loll
I just use steel series clipping cuz it came free with my keyboard and mouse
i've never heard of it beforeee i assumed u just used shadowplay or something
Nah Iโve been using steelseries keyboard mouse and headset for the past 6 years
Need a new mouse and keyboard soon tho
as long as my pc parts are usable i'm fine w/ them lolll
i really feel like helldivers is just darktide but made more for younger gen
helldivers is darktide but the devs have sentience
dont do this to yourself
please
''freedom and democracy'' dude just stfu
yeah but that was also 2015
yeah back when bungie had at least 15% of a soul left lol
great times
D2 is full of content you can never ever experience again if you didn't buy the $40 expansion pack to the $60 game before the other $40 expansion pack removed it
Bungo moment
The destiny experience as someone who isn't into it yet is "bro that armor is sick how did you get it" "oh yeah from cool x event that ran in 2019 and is permanently over, and all the content was removed so you cant get it via random drop."
repeat for like what 5 years and you have D2
rest in peace wrath of the machine
I became a destiny 2 player and a rainbow 6 player in the span of a week
Gotta be put down at this point
I got every expansion for under 20$
We chillin
Got wishender a bit ago
Beautiful bow
This is a clip from earlier cuz i did lightfall before witch queen
Warlock jump go brrr
Expansions drop full price, I could get all of them now for much less, but I have no interest.
Fair
At first i really wanted to keep my spending to 0 on destiny
But when i saw i could get every expansion for 20$ i said fuck it
I wanted strand warlock
Nerrrrrrrrrd
Argus
Yeah?
Lol
just matched with someone on hinge who i have absolutely 0 intention of talking to so that i could answer "baldur's gate 3" to her profile prompt of "guess my favorite video game"
tangent, but I love having a zealot in my team
between hitler and me who would u say is the worse guy
Hi flip
!
Strange times friend.
Depends
Weather was blazing hot 2 days ago, then ice cold weather, now ice cold rain
Its almost 1 am
Iโve been playing destiny 2 and rainbow all day
Weather director is bugged, hot fix should come out in 2050

Damn
Live footage of me on chasm terminus getting blown over the stairwell by the 57th poxwalker to spawn in the last 5 minutes
insert a poxbuster
hmm it's cold and raining
Perfect weather
the annoying dolphin girl
I dont like her fanbase
lol
testament
Bro was on a cut period for too long with that stomach
faust my goat
How was the food coma?
it was aight, got like 6 hours of sleep and probably sleep round 2 in a couple hours lol
remember when the chain weapons were the worst weapons hands down
and here i am, enjoying MK4 Chaxe now
12 seems just worse to me (tho it was the one i used to clear twins hm 2 months ago)
they were only bad for a year
Could anybody critique my Crucis build?
Its awful, terrible, uninstall (i havent looked)

hmm, I think it's fine for a stealth build but also never run momentum toughness
Weapons loadout
maniac on hammer is rip but otherwise the weapons look good
I just want to get some meme boss damage
Yeah, couldn't help that :/
I rolled so many dogshit hammers
I don't like throwing knives on hammer, but you probably need the points
Knives are good if u wanna nab a flamer tho
I could swap to a flamer
this is what I run except backstab CDR over swift
You would run Fury over Shroudfield then?
well if you want meme boss damage, you go shroudfield, but it's not practical
I would certainly recommend fury over shroud for hammer
gives you waaaaay more freedom and utility
Ha all of my builds I actually play are Fury
but if you are enjoying the memes with shroud that's fine
Was gonna do this for the sake of variety but I do wanna use what's most effective for the hammer
then its fury
Honestly I tried it once and it was too fiddly for me to get the hang of
I'll keep it for when I mess around with knife builds
yeah fury is gonna let you 1 shot crushers too
cause hammer doesn't 1 shot them anymore without a billion buffs
Even without carapace perk?
also, I guess with your build since you don't run throwing knives, it'd make more sense to get kantrael or something else?
Not sure how to complement your one best with ranged
I mean I got a killer Zarona
Ye its unfort but zealot stealth is entirely useless
but idk how hammer does with hordes now
I use any of: kant, lawbringer, zarona, brautos, ciag, laspistol, flamer
its pretty ok, not the best, but works
hammer is fine on hordes now
Well, its always done well but dont expect it to kill fast
With good positioning hammer can handle almost any density of horde
But its more control than kill
It's just to stay productive while waiting for the next bonk target to show up right?
also definitely get duelist
also make sure you use lights, they are pretty solid now
Na honestly hammer is pog for horde management
Chain weapons or other stuff will kill a horde faster but with good movement and positioning you can keep a horde off friendlies
seems like a lot of folks get trapped into just spamming heavies
And how do I make desperation work for me?
Ye, if its like 3 or 4 bruisers you can light em
I have restoring faith so I said to hell with HR
do I spam push attacks or deliberately sprint my stam away?
desperation I proc at the beginning of fights or purposefully on monstrosities via blocking
so like, running in with 0 stam and press F
or waiting for a boss to do a hit that depletes stamina
Groovy
Any specific techs for thunder hammer to know about?
like the order is activate -> charge and hold LMB -> release on head right?
you are gonna have to do far more camera manipulation than any other weapon to hit what you want
also jump special is very useful
to hit things in hordes
Is thunder hammer/ Support / wounds build still viable? I tried it and it was super weak IMO
not sure what you mean by support/wounds, chorus and marty?
Crudely yes, but remember the hitbox starts on the right side of your screen so you'll be doing some twists or jumps to avoid mooks
Support / wounds --> add wounds to get bonus for resistance and damage per every missing wound
Its still viable ye, what were you expecring it to do?
you can run marty on hammer but I don't prefer it over momentum
I tried to do Twin with that build and was obliterated ๐
but i am not a very skilled player yet so thats that
Oh ye na TH sucks into twins because of the health gating
Its a very manic fight, so unless yr experienced with TH it struggles, especially if you draw boss aggro
If that is what u wanna run for twins tho grab a columnus braced autogun to shred their shields first
oh also you should learn special light breakpoints relative to your current buffs, for example with a couple buffs a special light 1 taps a bulwark
actually the hammer does good damage to twins shields with special unlike assassination boss
like 50% in 1 hit
Psure unless they changed it the shields are capped at 20%
Alllthough i might be thinkin hard mode
the twins are different for whatever reason idk, but I was on normal
Oh i know theyre different, did the testin for em, i just forgor which modes have what now
I like rinda, shes a huge improvement over the standard assassin targets
Rodin tho just kinda sucks
the fight does seem more suited to weapons you can spam
entirely yes, they didn't want them getting one shot i think is the big things
but player power is just so insane they went with capping
I took way too much damage on hammer meanwhile josho with caxe was carrying lol
I never have a good experience doing OO with randoms
I've got the regular damnation done but eh
Do it premade
well went to try thunder hammer out
see 3 people in group with bosskiller loadouts
back to crusher for me for now lol
Bosskiller loadouts arent good for the fight
ye its a very high pressure fight
With the sheer amount of flak ragers and maulers you dont have the crowd control or kill speed to thin them out
doesn't work well for low mobility
hope future ones maybe lean the other way
so you have a mix of bosses calling for different kits

Knife zealot twins easy
it's annoying cuz rinda counters ranged builds and rodin counters melee builds
:(
bring a ranged or melee build that can dodge
ez fix
(i did it with columnus IAG/Brauto, laspistols, chain swords)
and then rinda pushes you into 6 mines and u die
just dodge 
or have high enough sprint speed running through the mines doesn't damage you
Fun tip
Rinda's shield is very weak to ranged
i actually didn't know that i assumed it was like all the other shields
but it makes sense
and rodin takes more from melee iirc
i guess that makes sense
Kill rodin asap to stop the mines and stealth is very useful for the fight
Allows you to get hits in against the bosses without needing to watch out for the scab horde
And save your grenades for the final part of the fight
honestly the mines are easy if u have 1 person with a knife or laspistol
Rodin has a X2 mele multiplier
So the best for him is to smack him hard
shield included
so i cleared rinda first cause i don't trust people to survive her enraged state (people can't dodge)
best to request a 4 stack down in vox chats
Enraged rinda is easy
Rodin is a lot more dangeroud cause the mines can nuke your health
especially if you dont know what a landmine is
ye they're dangerous, if you are josho
if you have anything with movement speed tho u can sprint through them and they don't go off till you are out of the AoE
which means as zealot you can sprint in circles around rodin and he can't damage you at all 
Yeah my zealot is fast enough to ignore mines
yeah, i was running on mines last time i did it, just pop them up as they appear, in that fight you are running in circles anyway, especially when chasing 256 dashes melee boss
lmao
I am interested in knife build but not stealth. Is bleed a good option?
If you want to use the crowd control knife get uncanny strike and executor
If you want anything knife get uncanny strike
If we're still talking twins Haymaker MkVI could be silly on the mauler packs if you're lucky
Use taxe on the wins
on hard mode twins its crusher packs and shotgunners
bleed knife with scourge and invocation on death for talent is really good
let you almost spam ultimate
for HM twins, simply bring four ogryns. one skullbreaker with charge, one bullgryn with taunt, and two gunluggers with stubbers. skullbreaker clears gas mines with charge and curbstomps the maulers and crushers. bullgryn taunts shotgunner packs and general mobs to keep them off the gunluggers. and the gluggers just dump all of their ammo into the void shields and then pop ult to stack burn on rodin.
so does a non-bleed knife too
ez clap
So turns out yall were right my heavy evis doesn't hold up now that I'm playing harder difficulties
What blessing do you run with it ?
It's a good weapon in my opinion
I have the extra cleave upon hitting 3 enemies and the hit 3 enemies and get 14% toughness
It worked for me for the most part but seems to be lacking boss damage
SKELLY 
For boss damage I revved heavy swing then chastise
I usually do like a third of the twins' shields with it
MK 2 or MK XV?
Tigris mark 15 I think
ready for what stan?
honestly i prefer the 2, they both stand up to damnation, but the 2 has slightly better performance since it has a heavy sweep (or thats how it feels to me anyway) Boss damage is going to come the overhead heavies on both models. Revving can help but keeping it locked to the head of a moving boss can be... challenging
Yeah, malice is quite reasonably winnable on level 1s
Heresy probably like 10s
Pi liked the 15 since the lights are wide sweeps made for nice feel of hoard clearing
But the weight of numbers makes builds start to be a little stricter
thats fine, i just prefer move sets that mix between the different parts
I think the II has uncapped cleave? More awkward but higher ceiling I heard?
also the XV having a stab push attack feels funny
Wait am I thinking of the wrong weapon? The block attack is a sweep?
The mk15 pushstab is my favourite part of the weapon
is the first heavy a horizontal sweep or an overhead?
for what?
no 
I can't rember but I have some videos of me using the weapon in question
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ face the corn hauer
I also think I need to work on my dodging I think I spam it way to often
Consequences
no
might be
just something you'll learn
Looking at my own gameplay I think I just use alot of wasted energy on swing at things
What do u use on your curios ?
I have been running 3 toughness since as long as I'm in the Frey surrounded by enemies I can keep it up
I think you should try running on of each stamina/toughness/life
With some block effectiveness and stamina regen for perks
And you will be able to avoid a lot of damage by blocking when you can't dodge
I have somenof those I just don't use them much I kinda figured I didn't need health if I had enough toughness
There is a mechanic called toughness bleed trough that make damage going to your health even a 80% toughness
Always, ALWAYS run a +3 Stamina on all builds, I can't overstate how powerful it is
Explain please
especially if you're using a 2 block weapon
+3 stamina can get hard to get tho
It's very simple, if you have 100% toughness, you take 0 health damage from a melee hit.
80% toughness, you take 20% of the damage to health
40% toughness you take 60% of the attack's damage to health
and so forth
so, toughness gives you damage mitigation against melee attacks, equal to the percentage of toughness you have left
the first hit you take you have 100% toughness so it mitigates 100% of the damage, the 2nd hit if you are at 80% toughness will stop 80% going through and you will take 20% on your health
How have I never noticed this
zealot has a lot of toughness regen available
so you might be ping ponging around 100%
yeah me neither took me a while to figure
And if an attack blasts all the way through, you'll always take 100% of the damage straight to health even if some of it gets blocked
I send you a video of a guys explaining it if you need more detail
I tend to keep quite close to max toughness most of the time
asssuming braced autoguns are good on zealot, what would be the autogun of choice?
THAT EXPLAINS MY VET ISSUE
this isn't to say lots of toughness is bad mind, a lot of people take pure toughness
but it means you are hyper reliant on that toughness regenerating
Like when you have toughness destroying attacks (snipers, crusher/mauler overheads)
i have a decent 7 but i like it because it has the best accuracy out of all brautos
My build has it so I regen toughness weither I'm surrounded and alone or with my team
my prefered of the braced autoguns is the columnus, it has the best sustained fire due to its mag size and fire rate. Makes it very good for group clear and suppression
I like the Columnus Infantry Autogun, but it's well known to be borderline OP right now
are you running martyrdom aswell? (the middle keystone)
Not normally I've been running a mix between using the right keystone and the left keystone
martyrdom is really bad
there we go. godroll
compared to the other
(idc about ammo, i scrounge what others donj't need or use melee anyway)
blazing piety is so much better
I like my attack speed so I run the right one quite often
arguably, martyrdom is safer on higher difficulties because you get more wounds to fuck up on
but i ran piety once and understand it to be biles better
and it's less selfish
yeah but the more wound you have the less you heal from med stim
depends on the weapon, not all weapons are good with crits and not everyone wants to run the crit CDR
Leaning on wounds is a fallacy because you'll be foisting all the safety onto your teammates
also making a build that need to take damage is rarely a good idea
And it makes stims suck, yeah
better take something to not die in the first place
Thatโs not the point though
Martyrdom is pgud for giving extra toughness DR when you are on low health, the left keystone if you take the left upgrades has a hidden buff to toughness regen on kill, and the right keystone has a hidden buff to dodges so they all help your defences differently
Alot of players will also wait till elevators to throw down the medi packs so your forced to heal
blazing piety is good on any weapon
its not good on thunderhammer
or braced autoguns
or anything else with low finesse
So for what I run and play I should use the left keys one with left upgrades?
The point of the build is to take enough damage to get the most of damage bonus, and then not take damage, if you can afford it, which is sustainable, because the damage boost allows you to kill everything more effectively, without taking damage
thunderhammer is whach with it indeed
@lusty turtle @slate owl what is the setup for columnus brauto? flak maniac with what blessings?
Itโs a risk/reward playstyle that currently may actually have little risk, and a very high reward 
wich ult would you like to run with it ?
I'm a mix between the charge and the chorous
it WOULD offer more toughness gen when you are at the max piety stacks just gonna check if its the righ sub upgrades. It also affects ranged attacks if you have the ranged attacks gives toughness as well
personally though i take the right keystone for the improved dodges and attackspeed
chorus is a worse psyker smite or ogryn aggro take imo
but it gave gold toughness
chorus is line of sight 360 degrees
wich make him better
I use all of those...
AND gives golden toughness
thank you
chorus is amazing
No maniac, take crit change or something instead
Fire Frenzy, probably Stripped Down? Speedload?
The blessings are kind of wack compared to IAG
indeed
gonna check mine now but its sorta one of those guns that just "works" i run maniac/flak on it atleast
sounds like crit, flak and anything goes
Oh right, yeah that's for IAG
so crits are only 30% bonus damage
God there's so much I don't know about this game
Where crits let it mow down crushers
I think I've found an enjoyment for the iron hammer as well
haha dw you'll get there, if you are ever unsure just ask questions or try ideas in the psykanium
yeah it's quitte hard to learn all the mechanics
ironhelm? ye its great
look up the chain of the video i sent you you will learn everything about the game
I just wish the psykanium had enemies that attack back
you can with mods
forgor just how good the perks and blessings on my columnus are

mods name is creature spawner
I guess maniac is ok but it's an auto weapon so it's a waste on anything except that which you'd want to melee already
You sent me a video?
indeed
I didn't see it
das a nice columbus
ye i think its something a lot of people wish was about, maybe one day
I enjoy the charge of the iron hammer since it doesn't burst until 8t hits a target it can't go through
82.5% bonus dmg for 3.5 seconds on that columnus 
thing just scythes through elite blobs
you can also push, and then heavy and it jumps to heavy 3
so you can get the overhead heavy
for the big smash
If I get better with it I may switch it for my evis
it can be a super fun weapon
my personal fav is the crusher
but i am EXCESSIVLEY biased on that 
I just want a weapon that is satisfying to clear through enemies
there plenty
Heavy Sword 
try the devil claws sword
recommend trying the crusher if you haven't yet
very fun easy to learn weapon, but has a lot of potential in combos
crusher is really fun too
theres a guide for how to use the crusher in pins
I didn't try crusher until yesterday and it honestly slaps
Enemies just flying around, bonking maulers, it's good
One day the ogryn power maul will get the same love ๐
if i get invited back for testing again thats what i wanna do
Convince the devs from buffing power maul to -25% damage just like recon ๐

