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ivory marlin
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nah

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im glad you caught the last name tho

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people usually think harry potter

frozen glen
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holy shit evangelion

ivory marlin
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not a reference to the anime

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i just thought it was a pretty name

nimble fiber
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it issassyyes

ivory marlin
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ty ty

coarse birch
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i dislike this image so much its unreal

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ive seen it 10 times

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it never gets better

coarse birch
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the mashed potatoes that somehow look like applesauce consistency

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mm

ornate bone
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Guys I got a problem

fair igloo
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WHAT???? OH MY GOD LOL

sterile stone
# fading vale

I'm telling the authorities of this heinous act of terorism

ivory marlin
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NO

ivory marlin
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argus

sterile stone
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Jole

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STALKER 2 releases soon

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The time to venture back into the zone is upon us.

coarse birch
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if i ever need to diet im just looking at stan food pics

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i wont eat for a week

ivory marlin
frozen glen
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stalker 2

sterile stone
# ivory marlin tf is that

Check out the latest gameplay look at S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 Heart of Chornobyl in this Bolts and Bullets Trailer.

Take a look around! Looks like the same old Zone, at a first glance… Freezed at the time and always transforming, primed to struck at the unforeseeable moment. But don’t let her trick you: She has changed from the last time you were here...

▶ Play video
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It comes out the day before Space Marines 2 drops

frozen glen
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its a game about someone stalking u and u have to get a restraining order

ivory marlin
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oh cool

median steeple
ivory marlin
sterile stone
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I saw someone playing with Mechs

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I'm waiting to get my hands on it to see if they're good.

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But from the small clip I've seen

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They turn instantly

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So that's kinda nuts

ivory marlin
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Vehicles are gonna be so dope

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Im so excited

median steeple
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S2 wont be good unless we have clear sky levels of gunplay

fair igloo
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wait did they already add mechs?

ivory marlin
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Not yet

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Soon

sterile stone
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I'm sure play testers

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Guy was recording it with what I can guess to be a phone

median steeple
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the guy said he loaded into a game where a guy had new strats and guns

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so it was either a dev goofing off or a hacker

sterile stone
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Betting money on the latter

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More of them have been popping up

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Saw one on my 2nd day in the game

ivory marlin
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Remember when you were running from bugs and i accidentally no scoped you

sterile stone
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Remember when I blew you up with a rocket pod strike

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🙂

misty mason
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Wait Space Marine 2 has a release date?

scenic moth
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Do most people use heavy attacks a lot on the heavy sword IX? I've taken a liking to it's ability to hit weak spots, and cleave through many at a time. I was told the sword was for light attacks.

misty mason
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Oh yeah look at that sep 9

ripe quest
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At the very least 2 mechs are confirmed.

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Or well, have been seen ig.

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One in the trailer and the other through gameplay.

misty mason
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Exh, tell me there's a patch coming

ripe quest
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I 'unno, does the community seem worthy of one yet?

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My best guess is we'll get news next week on Friday.

misty mason
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No 😢

scenic moth
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Gotta buy more cosmetics 😛

misty mason
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How could we be worthy when Stan

maiden path
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af

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*me af

median steeple
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Augh fucking finally

median steeple
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I though it was the OG

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wait I think my brain is broken

sterile stone
median steeple
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I did this right after I got out of the shower funnily enough

junior vortex
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I need this.

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Dead Island out of all games had this concept this expect chainswords.

rain steppe
# junior vortex

What if this but heavy bolter then it'd have a reason for such slow draw

junior vortex
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I was thinking chainsword on shotgun.

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A shotgun that can saw through your enemies with melee.

rain steppe
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I mean don't throw costodes have spears with gins in them wouldn't be hard to do something similar

median steeple
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guardian spears are way more than just guns on spears

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tho have a melee gun combo would go hard

sterile stone
rain steppe
minor sage
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forget the spear

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i want a javelin

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from vt2

fading vale
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My idea was to make chorus a javelin

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so it has some damage utility albeit minor but more importantly you can place it in a location

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and still attack

coarse birch
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i do want to be able to place chorus yeah

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let me drop it or w/e

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you can even remove the stun if you want and just make it a buff you can drop when fighting an elite pack

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then i can still partake in the battle

sterile roost
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me with thunder hammer: ⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️⬇️

fading vale
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Man I have an image for this but it's not appropriate to post here lol

royal vortex
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lmfao

fading vale
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LIBERTY

sterile stone
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Get air burst nerd

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➡️ ➡️ ➡️

fair igloo
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Is that a teammate I see in the middle of a chaff horde :O
⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ➡️

pine tartan
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Best thundehammer?

dense field
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Yes

median steeple
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h,mmm bonk

frozen glen
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the best thunderhammer is the one u like using

fair igloo
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the one that makes u smile the most >:)

royal vortex
fading vale
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does not realize how heavy he is

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kneading my stomach

ivory marlin
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Eat him

fading vale
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but I'm gonna eat a baconator

sterile stone
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He has succum to American eatery

fleet zealot
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World of warcraft ass bug knowing how to parry,

fading vale
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why aren't you sleeping

frozen glen
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he is too busy scouring instagram for memes

quaint verge
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so i was taking ashower and ate

fading vale
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I mean you could sleep for 2 hours

quaint verge
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cant risk it

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last time i did that i slept for 7h straight

fading vale
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is the class even worth attending

quaint verge
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it is

fading vale
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rip

quaint verge
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one of them is gonna have a 7h exam, and the other is project stuff

frozen glen
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7h exam wat da hell

fading vale
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tf is a 7h exam

frozen glen
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all my uni exams never took more than 2h

visual stream
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TIL trappers don't actually have to reload to shoot again

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mfw something that seems very important to the gameplay was actually just flavor animation

quaint verge
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electrical authorization that last 7h

fading vale
quasi marsh
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Cuts the animation short and they just shoot again lol

visual stream
quasi marsh
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Ya

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If you're gonna pick someone up

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You usually ignore trapper and pick them up

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Since if you tap them you gotta commit to finishing the job

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Or it gets you too KEKW_ogryn

quaint verge
visual stream
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Yeah it was moreso one tried to get me in the middle of a mixed horde and I figured I would stun lock it until it died KEKW_ogryn

quaint verge
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and there is usually 3 assignments with like 3 sub-assignments with 5 question on them PePeW

frozen glen
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what the fuck is that

left iron
south folio
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seems like some analog circuit dark arts

frozen glen
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remember your pemdas/bodmas kids

south folio
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i've never seen the angle symbol in a formula in my life

quaint verge
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a electrical board check to see if the cable can handle a short circuit PePeW

frozen glen
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we had that in geometry class bro

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pay attention arco u stupid

south folio
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shut up rivers

quaint verge
frozen glen
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i can grasp that image better

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now that it shows the substitutions

fair flax
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God I love my build

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It be like, ads, np. bosses? perfect. Monstrosities? ez mode

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Just gotta dodge

sharp zodiac
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Welp that's 10 games, none of them I enjoyed

delicate shadow
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wowee

frozen glen
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someone teach luna the concept of not doing something u dont enjoy

north sedge
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have you tried playing good ones?

ivory marlin
ripe quest
sharp zodiac
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Black and red

frozen glen
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what does that mean

ripe quest
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Wouldn't you like to know, weather boy.

sharp zodiac
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Just couldn't stick the landing for me besides 2

ripe quest
drowsy steppe
sharp zodiac
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Wouldn't know

north sedge
sharp zodiac
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Haven't played it in months

frozen glen
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ok i get it

sharp zodiac
frozen glen
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luna has an obsession with texas

sharp zodiac
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Yes

frozen glen
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also one of the most generic options

sharp zodiac
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Hate the colour scheme

left iron
visual stream
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I think it's funny when you can tell the director is trying to kill you as the last person standing

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It gets a sudden burst of money to spend on throwing 80 things at you

sharp zodiac
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It's me actually

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I'm the AI director

ivory marlin
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I bought 1 key

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And just made 20$

sharp zodiac
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Rich

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Proud of you

drowsy steppe
ivory marlin
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I wanted to open more keys but i legit only have enough for 1

drowsy steppe
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those 20$ aint gonna spend itself

left iron
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9am Dorktide be like:

calm salmon
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bots show up on the scoreboard

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where bots

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until bot proof, bait

left iron
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I have a old version of the scoreboard, lemme check if i still got the end on clip

left iron
calm salmon
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okay, so not just a true solo run

left iron
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Nah, i didnt wanna do a true solo :L

calm salmon
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it IS maelstrom though

left iron
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But it just

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Devolved into one

calm salmon
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so no real surprise that nobody showed up

left iron
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The bots were alive for like 5 minutes total

calm salmon
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maelstrom is already the least populated game mode in darktide, and the player count has dipped pretty significantly over the last few months

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yeah its not lookin good boss

left iron
calm salmon
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I can't say I'm really surprised by it though.

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Fatshark has made the new player experience pretty fuckin awful because the gear system sucks

and it doesn't cater to long time players because the gear system sucks

left iron
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I'd be playing Helldivers but i have no one to play with this early, and im at cap for everything pepeW

ember yew
calm salmon
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im like 25 purple away from max everything

ember yew
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cant be helped

calm salmon
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and I guess medals

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but I got all the weapons from both free and premium warbonds

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so nothing else really interests me

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oooo a new armor I'm not gonna wear

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and stuff like that

left iron
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Yah same, i dont care too much for the fluff in there

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I got the armor, weapons and addons

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And grenades

calm salmon
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I do hope arrowhead does a weapon balance pass

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Hopefully by not just dumpstering the sg225 and railgun into the ground(though both need hefty nerfs)

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I'd like to, well, actually be able to use my primary weapons against bots.

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But the stupid fucking devastator/hulk/tank spam is literally out of control and makes everything dogshit to use.

quaint verge
left iron
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Im not holding my breath tbf, HD1 had a bad case of some very good weapons which made every other weapon obsolete unless you were styling with the single shot rifle, for example

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Justice, breaker and whatever the burst poison assault rifle was were the only ones i saw at 9+ for the last few years i played

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Justice and poison rifle for bugs and cyborgs, breaker and justice for illuminate

ivory marlin
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Guys 70-80% cocoa chocolates are the best

sharp zodiac
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Cocoa chocolate?

ivory marlin
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Dark chocolate

ripe quest
ivory marlin
ripe quest
sharp zodiac
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Oh

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You lost me at dark chocolate I'll be honest

ivory marlin
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Milk chocolate is too sweet

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I feel sick after 1 bite

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But dark chocolate is soooo good

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I love the bitterness

ripe quest
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My local grocery store sells a brand that has a couple extra flavors and then dark chocolate past 90% at 1% increments up to 98%

sharp zodiac
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You and I are exact opposites in terms of chocolate

ripe quest
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They have an orange zest one and it's pretty good

sharp zodiac
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But white is my favorite

ivory marlin
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Lucky fuck

left iron
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Dark chocolate > all other chocolate NODDERS

ivory marlin
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Gotta send me the brand

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REAL

sharp zodiac
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Dark is just way too bleh for me

ivory marlin
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I’ve never met more likeminded based people

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I love dark chocolate

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Milk is too sweet

sharp zodiac
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That's why it's my favorite

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The sweetness just hits

ivory marlin
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I have some 60% Peruvian chocolate

sharp zodiac
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Whats that

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Peruvian

ivory marlin
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Im worried its gonna be too sweet

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Did my autocorrect choose the wrong word

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Chocolate from peru

sharp zodiac
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I hope so

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Oh god Peru

ivory marlin
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Huh?

sharp zodiac
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Peru and I have beef

ivory marlin
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I got this box of 60-70% chocolates from all over the world

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Like the whole country

sharp zodiac
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Yes

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I hate the country

ivory marlin
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Damn

ivory marlin
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Good luck with that ig

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Exhil want to split some chocolate i have from peru

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Its 60%

calm salmon
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the incendiary liberator is. . . sad.

ripe quest
calm salmon
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spray and pray being basically unuseable

ripe quest
calm salmon
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sorry, yeah.

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Explosive.

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Its not like. . . bad bad.

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But its definitely not fun to use.

ivory marlin
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I already ate all the 70%s

ripe quest
# calm salmon Its not like. . . bad bad.

It's pretty solid for terminids. It's got weird multi's for fleshy parts like on Chargers and wounded armored enemies. Opposite w/ the Liberator Penetrator w/ it's 4x weakspot mod and it being nutty for Automatons.

calm salmon
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I shot a devastor in the face with two mags

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and it kept bullying me

ripe quest
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w/ which one?

calm salmon
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(Lib Pen)

ripe quest
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You were missing.

calm salmon
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Yeah I did figure out that its scope is blatantly wrong

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along with literally every scope in the game

ripe quest
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You can like 5-6 shot a base devastator last time I used it

calm salmon
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they ALL shoot below center of scope

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every single one

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only the red dot sights are correctly aligned

ripe quest
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Just gotta hit the head.

calm salmon
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yeah

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tall order when there's literally 30 of them

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which is why I fucking hate the bots

ripe quest
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Well there's bullet drop, not sure how much that plays into it. Crouching accuracy is really solid on most guns.

calm salmon
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its all of the worst ideas of difficulty wrapped into one

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bullet sponges, ranged spam, stagger spam

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its literally everything wrong with ranged combat wrapped up into a nice little shit package

ripe quest
calm salmon
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Oh

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Cool

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look at that

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MY STRATAGEMS ARE FUCKING RANDOMIZED

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WHICH MAKES THE ISSUE EVEN WORSE

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I dunno, fuck bots.

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Shitass design

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there's a reason they have 1/5th the player base

ivory marlin
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Man chose a scrambler mission

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Rip

calm salmon
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If I can get an iota of breathing room, its a giant snooze fest.

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Which is also problematic. Run up to a base, drop two eagle strikes, move to the next one.

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If its a jammer or AA tower, manual labor is required

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but I'm in the base, so there's tons of hard cover to run around

ripe quest
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I think it's more so that they're just harder in general than Terminids. W/ the bugs you're just running and kiting all the time but with the bots you gotta like, think about whether or not you can keep up with spawns and patrols and needing an entirely different set of weapons to fight them.

calm salmon
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at least the bugs are like "Here's 250 enemies on screen, have fun with ammo management" which I find more engaging.

ripe quest
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The civilian evacuation missions are difficult as shit if you play it like a terminid mission but if you do the stealth strat it's a cake walk for example

calm salmon
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also

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funee

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not quite ping pong

calm salmon
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Like, the only "legitimate" problem with bugs is that your weapon stratagem choices are railgun, railgun, railgun, or railgun.

ripe quest
calm salmon
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sorta kinda

ripe quest
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People have been joking about the bots in Malevalon giving them PTSD lol

calm salmon
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but the GL and AC guy HAVE to stick with railgun users

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That's the one good thing about bot design.

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Medium pen is relevant, even if its really ass to use because bots will rip you a new asshole for showing your face for 2 seconds

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bugs its "Light Pen>Heavy Pen" with zero in between because the medium armor bugs are completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things

ripe quest
clear knot
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i find bots easier to manage as a whole over bugs

calm salmon
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bugs let you run away

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even hunters

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like, even a hunter swarm can be managed with just some terrain

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walk around a rock and now its a trickle feed and you can camp your happy ass off as they come around the corner 1x1

ripe quest
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Bugs are number spam and kite heavy and bots are ranged fighters and armor heavy.

calm salmon
calm salmon
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Just don't get caught with your pants down. As long as you can kill the little aliens, the chargers and bts are basically non-issues

ripe quest
calm salmon
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and I made a joke about how hd2 is just aimlabs lmao

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but like, its a good showcase of "Just hit your shots" and hunter packs won't overwhelm you

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and you can keep shooting and aiming while dodging if you absolutely have to

ripe quest
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You're using a 1h primary, hunter packs overwhelming you is a huge skill issue to begin with.

calm salmon
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i dunno what the 1h primary thing has to do with it

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you can do that clip with anything but like

ripe quest
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You can shoot behind you while moving

calm salmon
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You can also shoot behind you because of dodges

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regardless of 1h or 2h weapons

ripe quest
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Redeemer is really fun with it since you can kite and burst DPS stuff

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and both SMGs have it too

calm salmon
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there's. . . a second smg?

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do you mean the machine pistol?

ripe quest
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The Knight

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It's a primary, 1380 RPM

calm salmon
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the what

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is that some sort of preorder bonus or something

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or does it come from the super citizen dlc

ripe quest
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Yee it's the deluxe or whatever

calm salmon
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Jonathon was right

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that thing looks kinda weird

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Johnathon?

median steeple
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its great but has shit recoil

calm salmon
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No idea how he spells its name

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literally just mouse pull down

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holy shit

ripe quest
calm salmon
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people complaining about recoil boggle my mind

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"wah my gun moves when I shoot it"

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just fuckin move your god damn mouse down

ripe quest
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It has like no recoil

median steeple
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I must be thinking of the other smg

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but one of them has crazy vert

calm salmon
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the only legitimate complaints about recoil are relegated to Tarkov pre patch 13 or whatever they're on now

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the machine pistol has some bad recoil in third person

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but that's it

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the defender smg has a fire rate of 300 rounds per minute, like the grease gun

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and thus has no recoil

ripe quest
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It's ~500 iirc

calm salmon
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close enough for horse shoes and hand grenades

ripe quest
calm salmon
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Yeah, still definitely super slow

median steeple
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yeah ok a patch fixed it because this thing was not a laser last week

calm salmon
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but yeah, the biggest problem with primaries is that the sg225 breaker exists KEKW_ogryn

true kindle
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any of you helldiving gamers know which graphics settings affect the explosions?

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I wanna keep everything low except the fidelity for the big booms

calm salmon
ripe quest
calm salmon
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well, bloom affects the actual explosion brightness I suppose

true kindle
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no no I want to try maxing them out while maintining fps lol

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and no I mean the actual quality of the explosion particles/sprite/whatever

calm salmon
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but I don't think anything specifically controls explosion graphics quality.

true kindle
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with everything on low they look hella pixelated

calm salmon
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why are you playing on low?

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oh right, no geforce now for it or whatever right

true kindle
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mhm

calm salmon
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yeah I dunno bossman

median steeple
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particles prob

calm salmon
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sahz

median steeple
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thats how it is in other games

true kindle
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but they did a good job with the optimization, I get playable frames with everything on low and the upscaling set to balanced

calm salmon
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balanced is just your default resolution

true kindle
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KEKW_ogryn naw dog

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that's native

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balanced is very strong upscaling

calm salmon
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I dunno. My mistake if so

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I haven't looked at the settings since I got the game lmao - outside of fucking around with SSGI

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which, turns out, is gigabugged

true kindle
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whatever they're using seems to be similar to FSR1 which means that balanced scales up from 59% native resolution

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game put it on ultra quality by default, which is 77%

true kindle
ivory marlin
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Hi hank

median steeple
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its really hard to tell from high to med for me

calm salmon
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Yeah, if I had to guess it'd be particle quality and draw distance

true kindle
calm salmon
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draw distance will be a double edged sword though

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since now greeblies are spawning in further away which is resource intensive

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rocks, vegetation, blood, limbs - stuff like that.

median steeple
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actually the enemies dont spawn that far from you

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like the director will spawn them within like min rendering distance

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they're never far enough away for DD to be a problem

calm salmon
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yeah I straight up don't see a difference between ultra and medium lmao

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What I do notice is 25 lost frames lmao

median steeple
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lol

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I have most things at medium except textures

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and terrain

calm salmon
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soon™️

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only I think 11 more purples to go to hit max

median steeple
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hopefully a new ship section pops up for mechs but probably not

calm salmon
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And the super credits are a lie. I've bought zero. Thank god for farming locations on maps.

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Based arrowhead letting me earn premium currency for free

median steeple
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I bet they're gonna go into the turret section

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I almost have 1k free SCs

calm salmon
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I've gotten uh

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lets see

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300 from the premium warbond

650 from the free warbond

and about another 1000 from missions

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because despite my level 50, I've not ground out bot extermination missions. All raw baby

ripe quest
median steeple
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that or we get weapon upgrading from HD1

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because we need something for these samps

ripe quest
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Well that's practically kinda confirmed

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w/ the weapon attachments system they're talking about

calm salmon
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can

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can I put different scopes on guns

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arrowhead please

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I'm begging you

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please let me put an actual scope on my railgun and dominator

median steeple
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yes I would love to give the railgun zoom

ripe quest
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CEO said suppressors and different ammo type so maybe? They already have the zoom stuff in the reload menu.

calm salmon
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also, you can two shot bile titans with the railgun

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just saying

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the head is a triangle

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shoot the fat base of the triangle

median steeple
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I mean AP rounds were in HD1

calm salmon
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near the neck

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guaranteed two shot

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don't even need to run it on unsafe

median steeple
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I love killing spore towers from the otherside of the map with the rail

calm salmon
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EAT, RR, Railgun, AC

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iz all satisfying

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for this particular job anyway

ripe quest
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I like doing it with the Dominator

calm salmon
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there's nothing fun or engaging about using the Eat, RR, or AC in actual matches

median steeple
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I want them to buff the AC, dont make pen armor but make it strip it or something

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I love AC for bots but for bugs it's not that good

calm salmon
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yeah, that shit should be stripping armor left and right

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take a row of ammo from it for tradesies

median steeple
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also buff the flamethrower

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please

calm salmon
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god the flamethrower makes me sad

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10 meter range

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who the fuck thought that'd be fun

ripe quest
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It's super fun

median steeple
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the fire overtime damage is so low

ripe quest
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one of my favorite weapons rn

median steeple
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the flamethrower is really fun

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but man

calm salmon
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I eventually just gave up on the fire achievement and did a tier 3 mission solo with only the flame thrower

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to get 100 kills

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its literally impossible to race people for kills with it

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because literally everything is better than it

median steeple
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yeah because you need to get kills with the overtime damage instead of the "impact"

#

its dumb

#

napalm really helped getting that

ripe quest
#

It's def bug leaning. It'll kill anything that isn't a charger or a bile titan pretty fast and without a whole lot of ammo. Sticky flames too, I can enact my DRG Driller muscle memory.

calm salmon
#

kills a charger in one magazine

#

not that that's super useful in a team fight

#

because you'll shoot through the charger

#

and into your teammate

#

much like the arc thrower

median steeple
#

man fuck them teammates

#

but also I've been and have sniped people with the arc thrower

#

its range is crazy

calm salmon
#

arc thrower is good, but its just super tedious to use.

#

Considering that's the only complaint I have for it

ripe quest
#

You can be super ammo efficient by playing into the sticky flames and hitting the underside but it's not really time efficient. I usually offer to backpack someone's AC or RR while running Flamer.

calm salmon
#

its doing way better than most other stuff right now lmao

#

you don't need to hit the underside of anything exhi

#

flamer ignores armor

#

outright

#

just like the arc thrower

median steeple
#

yeah its great

#

but they need to buff the damage for it to be useful

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

oh

#

the flames on the ground are literally useless

#

they don't even kill scavengers

#

lmao

#

let alone a charger with 9000x the hp

median steeple
#

I mean they do but its really inconsistent

ripe quest
#

Something clearly doesn't add up because you can def kill stuff really fast with the sticky flames.

calm salmon
#

FWIW: The 500kg bomb has damage registration issues

median steeple
#

they need to buff the penetrator

#

give it more ammo or damage

calm salmon
#

so I wouldn't be surprised if literally everything does

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

the reliance on weakspots is a dogshit mechanic though

#

we've already explored this in darktide

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its awful

#

especially with the absolute lack of stagger resistance in HD2

#

here's 55 ranged enemies

You get staggered every 0.5 seconds

ripe quest
#

Puri you're not about to tell me you go for body shots in Darktide rn

calm salmon
#

not on revolver or plasma gun

#

but with literally anything else

#

yes

median steeple
#

I have only found success with liberator pen on bot missions

ripe quest
#

oml

calm salmon
#

Right, but revovler and plasma gun have projectiles the size of africa

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

if they didn't

#

I'd also just be shooting bodies

median steeple
#

I love the normal liberator

#

its my main weapon since I got tired of the breaker

ripe quest
#

but regardless WS hits on specifically bots are easy to hit and rewarding w/ certain weapons with how aggressive the scaling is.

median steeple
#

just buff its ammo

calm salmon
#

I mean that's my point - its WHY they're the only two guns where I actively aim for headshots

#

same deal with the scorcher in hd2

#

it has a projectile effect the size of africa

#

as long as you're in the zipcode of the head, its a headshot

ripe quest
#

Puri sometimes I worry about you

median steeple
#

I gotta try the scorcher

#

I assume its better than its HD1 version?

calm salmon
#

I'm not a pro

#

nor do I slave away on aimlabs, or other training tools

#

that said, apparently people have trouble hitting charger legs with the railgun

#

so like

ripe quest
#

Dude puri like everything in DT has a weakspot priority rn you can just aim slightly up at them and you'll be fine

calm salmon
#

I am still debating on charger heads myself though

ripe quest
#

w/ HD2 it's less forgiving because if you're moving WS hits are not a great yield.

calm salmon
#

95% Charge Railgun is 3 shots to head

#

while its two to the leg on safe and a mag-ish from the breaker

#

fps mode required for unsafe mode though

ripe quest
#

iirc explosive weapons are great for the Charger legs thing

calm salmon
#

any kind of horizontal aiming and you can't see the charge indicator anymore in 3rd person

ripe quest
#

gets a big damage bump

calm salmon
#

uh

#

charger legs are just bugged right now

#

well, okay

#

its hard to say if its a bug or intended mechanic

#

but when the charger ends a charge, EVERY weapon can penetrate its legs

#

from the stock pistol to the railgun

median steeple
#

like ones with big shoulders

#

its dumb but yea

calm salmon
#

happens with this one too

#

they just need to add a UI element to the crosshair

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

median steeple
#

I use the armor set thats last in the store rotation

calm salmon
#

also this cape is tight with this armor

median steeple
#

the one that gives more nades and I've had no problems with it

#

hooded goes hard

calm salmon
#

I just like this armor because its the fastest move speed and stamina recovery in the game

#

and has the scout perk

#

which is giga OP

#

I'm literally undetectable if enemies aren't looking at me

#

and the detection range is about 10 meters if they are

median steeple
#

yeah crouching around with that is crazy

calm salmon
#

you don't even need to crouch

median steeple
#

I think its the helmet that gives the speed boost?

calm salmon
#

like

#

SPRINTING

#

sprinting and you're completely undetectable

#

the scout perk is giga busted

median steeple
#

nah im talking while crouching you become even more invisible

calm salmon
#

there definitely seems to be a loudness mechanic with armors though - considering the not looking at you thing

#

I can't walk up on people with the medium or heavy armor

#

but I can with light - scout just makes enemies outright not react to you

#

but with light armor you can get weirdly close to them

median steeple
#

I only use medium armor for drip at this point since armor values are bugged

#

and med and heavy aren't giving more than they should

calm salmon
#

even if they fix armor values, I don't think armor is going to matter

#

you already die to a sneeze

#

a buff on "death by sneeze" is upped to "stiff breeze"

median steeple
#

I think heavy will negate some of that but for it to be useful certain enemy types need to be toned down

#

like hunters

#

fuck them

calm salmon
#

not particularly worthwhile when you're moving at 3mph during sprint

#

granted

#

GRANTED

#

GRAAAAAANTED

#

vehicles

median steeple
#

god please give us the tank

calm salmon
#

they're 100% coming. Mechs are just the start.

#

But we should be getting an APC and shit

median steeple
#

im gonna be a mech slave

calm salmon
#

which'll make the movespeed of heavy armor functionally irrelevant, depending on how squishy vics are

median steeple
#

stuck to that mf at all times

#

there is 3 mechs, an APC, a heavy assault vehicle, a motorcycle, and a tank

ripe quest
median steeple
#

thats the helldivers 1 list of shit

ripe quest
#

It's one of two that have stat changes

median steeple
#

hopefully we get those and more

median steeple
ripe quest
median steeple
#

which I wonder what other helmets are giving hidden buffs

#

well armors a given

ripe quest
#

obv yeah

#

that part isn't the highlight

#

there was another that did the inverse

median steeple
#

make the one with the eye piece be able to see samples from far away

ripe quest
#

w/ +armor and reduced speed

median steeple
#

I really excited for the future of the game since they seem to have mostly fixed the server issues

#

and we can get to balancing and new content

calm salmon
spare talon
#

honestly i hope it involves buffing other things and not nerfing the current ones
may just be me but i feel like railgun/shield gen isnt better than everything else, everything else just isnt as good as that, if that makes sense

ripe quest
#

I have 5 w/ the max speed setup

calm salmon
#

oh, then they're ALL premium

#

so, for the sake of most players

#

the green/brown is the fastest cause its in the free warbond

ripe quest
#

Puri the armor pieces are like 150 max

spare talon
#

you can find them in missions

calm salmon
#

Have you. . . played with pubs?

ripe quest
#

I haven't spent a dime and I've played far less than you

calm salmon
#

Getting them to chase down POIs is a chore

#

granted, I do it anyway

#

and its easier on low diffs cause people don't feel pressure

#

so they're happier to follow you literally everywhere, instead of just rushing objectives then home

median steeple
calm salmon
#

I use rover guard dog in helldive bugs Sitgryn

#

the ammo economy buff cannot be understated

median steeple
#

I love the dog

calm salmon
#

but I also use b-1 supply pack too

#

so /shrug

ripe quest
spare talon
#

if you dont have a teammate who can coordinate with you on the fly, youre fucked

calm salmon
#

wait, yes it is.

#

Autocannon to the slit to kills them

median steeple
#

I dont find hulks as much as a problem as rocket devastators

calm salmon
#

medium armor pen

#

so an MG-43 will also kill a hulk

#

or AMR

ripe quest
median steeple
#

yes AC and unsafe rails will rock hulks

calm salmon
#

hulks with the flame thrower are piss easy, if annoying

#

hulks with anything ranged is cancer

spare talon
median steeple
ripe quest
#

I've gotten weakspot hitmarkers against hulks w/ the Lib Pen on a Hulk

calm salmon
#

as for the scorcher, dominator and uh

#

slugger?

median steeple
#

if I see the rocket ones first its piss easy

calm salmon
#

I dunno if they can actually damage hulks

spare talon
#

but still, you said med armor pen, which some primaries have

calm salmon
#

despite having "medium armor pen"

spare talon
#

and they jsut

#

dont work

median steeple
#

but in the middle of fight the rockets stunlock my ass to death

#

so skill issue on my part right there

calm salmon
#

outside of just light/med/heavy

ripe quest
median steeple
#

It seems angle matters at least on the AC

ripe quest
#

to the head specifically

calm salmon
#

but the MG-43, HMG Emplacement, Autocannon can all kill hulks - the eye socket, to be specific

#

I've done it with all of em

median steeple
#

Idk it's weird

#

AC is so useful for bots but rail just does it better sadly

calm salmon
#

rail is objectively the best weapon stratagem in the game

ripe quest
#

I'd rather have an AC for non-Hulks

median steeple
#

except for like killing tanks

spare talon
#

i honestly find anything that isnt the railgun inconsistent against armor tbh

calm salmon
#

so like. . . no surprise there

#

the "horde duty" stratagems, like the MG-43 and GL can't really hold a candle to the SG-225 breaker, let alone the stalwart

#

for anti armor the railgun shits on everything

#

either due to being bad - spear

or just overall clunky - recoilless/eat

or requiring downtime to actually aim - Autocannon

#

EAT should have a completely separate slot, though.

#

Press 6 to equip it

#

that way people with backpacks or other stratagems can actually pick the second one up

spare talon
median steeple
#

the turret is fun but it handles like an aquaplaning school bus

calm salmon
#

and is literally useless against high level bugs lmao

#

and dies instantly to bots

#

its such a bad call-in

median steeple
spare talon
median steeple
#

I hate that modifer with every ounce of my existence

calm salmon
#

Yeah.

median steeple
calm salmon
#

The manned turret is only good for like. . . dif 7

#

if that

#

it crumples to a single charger or bile titan

spare talon
# median steeple yea

ive seen it put in some serious fucking work against bots when placed on high ground

calm salmon
#

if the bots don't shoot at it, its amazing.

spare talon
#

like i was not expecting it to handle hulks but i know what i saw

calm salmon
#

As soon as they look at you, its joever

median steeple
#

yeah the only time I use it is on bot defense

calm salmon
#

one rocket and you're deadzo

#

it has some interesting interactions with the bubble call-in

#

but unlike psyker's bubble, its nowhere near close to "on demand"

#

so basically just relegated to backpack bubble

median steeple
#

I really really hope they change hunters

calm salmon
#

which is to say, bubble backpack 2 gud

median steeple
#

one day

#

if they get changed to be less annoying I will stop using shield

#

and embrace full dog

calm salmon
#

I would love for arrowhead to make the dog hover one more foot above us

#

two

#

two more feet above us

#

do that and its perfect

#

but, while I use it a lot, its always an aggravating tool at best

#

constantly trying to stay on completely flat ground so it doesn't kill me

#

not to mention the MG rover is a literal oneshot kill on you KEKW_ogryn

#

since its at head height

#

on top of all of its other issues

median steeple
#

I think the rovers have better versions of the actual weapons

#

like the AC turret being way better than the normal one

calm salmon
#

the las-5 scythe rover outright has zero rules

#

as far as I can tell

median steeple
#

yeah its 1000% better than the one we can use

calm salmon
#

99% of the time it just never goes back into my backpack

#

regardless of how often its firing

#

every now and again I can see it overheat

#

but its clearly bugged to hell and back

median steeple
#

yeah it has crazy uptime that the Lib rover cant really compete with

calm salmon
#

On the topic of primaries though

#

Las-5 Scythe, Spray and Pray Breaker, Explosive Liberator

#

DMR Counter Sniper

#

those are the outright dogshit ones

median steeple
calm salmon
#

so far as I can tell

spare talon
median steeple
#

the spray and pray is the bot tickler

calm salmon
#

i mean, that's fine

#

the breaker SHOULD be too

#

but its clearly not

#

something about the breaker is bugged

#

or uh

#

I dunno, something about the stock breaker is just off

median steeple
#

pretty sure the breaker does 300dmg

calm salmon
#

in a bad way, to be clear.

#

Yeah, its 330.

#

Does nearly 3000dps

#

which isn't gamebreaking at all KEKW_ogryn

median steeple
#

yeah is that per pellet or?

calm salmon
#

330 damage/however many pellets

median steeple
#

thats crazy

spare talon
#

they havent commented on it tho iirc

calm salmon
#

No

#

Pilestatd has

median steeple
#

yeah I got tired of that really fast so I went back to the normal liberator

calm salmon
#

he HATES the sg225 breaker

spare talon
#

may just not have seen it then

calm salmon
#

(The ceo of arrowhead)

median steeple
#

If they're gonna nerf anything its gonna be the breaker

calm salmon
#

wants to lower the ammo count per magazine and overall magazines

#

but, no, the shotguns function like darktide

#

say 330/8

#

or however many pellets there are

#

and that's how much each pellet does

spare talon
#

if im gonna be real i dont even treat it like a shotgun, with pellets in mind
i treat it like a slug

median steeple
#

yeah it might as well be

calm salmon
#

yeah, the breaker is, for all intents and purposes, a slug gun out to ~40 meters

#

past 40 meters you can start to feel the shot spread and damage drop off

spare talon
#

even if they nerf its damage i prolly will still use it cuz i just like the gun itself

frozen glen
#

no u wont

calm salmon
#

I dunno, I fuck around with everything

#

but always find myself going back to the breaker

#

1 second

median steeple
#

I want more assault rifles

calm salmon
median steeple
#

we have so many shotguns

calm salmon
#

they broke the career tab again

#

but of my 38k kills, something like 35k are bugs lmao

#

I've cleared helldive on both bugs and bots

#

but holy shit do I find bots absolutely unengaging bullshit

median steeple
#

I do not like fighting bots on anything higher than 7

#

I love being stunlocked

spare talon
#

like its not just the damage that makes it good
its how reliable it is to land your shots, its incredibly accurate and stable, even in a game like helldivers where your crosshair is going to fucking alpha centauri

calm salmon
#

one guy gets a flare off

#

here comes three dropships

#

with 10 devastators each

#

fucking stupid game design

median steeple
#

which happens on bugs but at least they need to get close for that to happen

calm salmon
#

I'd literally rather see 6 hulks

#

or 3 tanks

#

than the stupid ass devastator spam

#

jesus christ I hate devastators

spare talon
frozen glen
#

you are crazy

calm salmon
#

naw bugs are way easier

median steeple
#

helldiver boils down to just woe bile upon ye

calm salmon
#

without a doubt

calm salmon
median steeple
#

I hope they limit the spawn of specials but make them stronger

#

give more variants of specials

#

like HD1

calm salmon
#

can we not with the spewers though

#

please

#

make them a two shot

#

not a one shot

spare talon
#

it is possible that its just cuz quickplay has said "ok cool sending you to vietnam now" more times than not, so ive gotten more familiar with how to fight high level bots than bugs

spare talon
median steeple
#

impacts fuck spewers

calm salmon
#

you always quickplay onto that planet

#

at that difficulty

spare talon
calm salmon
#

I miss Fenrir III

#

best planet by far

#

my moon Sitgryn

spare talon
#

quickplay has just been a BITCH

calm salmon
#

I like qping into dif 6/7 bugs

#

and hard carrying randos

#

who have NO idea what they're doing

median steeple
#

I love the volcanic planets when they have that gloomy storm look

calm salmon
#

level 15 timmies just running around with lib penetrators against bugs

#

screaming into the mic about how hard it is to kill anything KEKW_ogryn

#

I roll up with the SG-225 breaker and completely clear the wave

spare talon
calm salmon
#

Uh

#

that's just down to the lib penetrator

#

that thing is fucking DOGSHIT against bugs

median steeple
#

its also criminal how hard the defender fucks btw

#

like nothing stands in its way

calm salmon
#

its like. . . okay against bots

#

if you can actually snipe with it

spare talon
calm salmon
#

but if you get pulled into a brawl it turns into dogshit again

median steeple
#

the machinepistol

spare talon
#

oh yeah

#

i never remember its name

median steeple
#

it fucks berserkers

calm salmon
#

no this is the defender

median steeple
#

oh shit

sturdy owl
#

the redeemer is the machinepistol

calm salmon
#

this is the redeemer

median steeple
#

yeah there it is

spare talon
median steeple
#

fuck im tired

calm salmon
spare talon
#

i think you are insane

calm salmon
#

Dominator/Redeemer/B-1 Supply Pack/Railgun/Eagle 500/Eagle Airstrike

spare talon
#

yeah it fucks them right up
but that ammo economy

calm salmon
#

I use the redeemer mostly

spare talon
#

hurts my soul

median steeple
#

I love my railcannon

calm salmon
#

the dominator on brood commanders, warriors, and default bugs(The green guys that look like commanders)

#

while the redeemer is used on scavengers and hunters

spare talon
median steeple
#

Yes

spare talon
#

ive never used it

calm salmon
#

railgun on chargers and bile titans

#

its big iffy

#

its a oneshot if hits the head on BTs and chargers

#

more of a bot tool

spare talon
#

i cant get behind a single enemy orbital strike with a 3 fucking minute cooldown

calm salmon
#

where it just outright oneshots tanks and hulks

#

regardless of angle

wind dagger
#

slugger is better for medium bugs or honestly if you're running supply pack just use the railgun to kill them

spare talon
calm salmon
#

I hate the slugger

#

pump action poopy

#

give me full auto slugger

#

arrowhead please

#

or fuck, just burst fire

#

I don't really care

#

but it has absolutely terrible breakpoints on enemies

#

making the single fire tedious

median steeple
#

The railcannon is just useful to get rid of something in the middle of a team or something that needs to die now

calm salmon
#

*Bug specific. Its alright against bots. Like everything else with medium pen, 1-2 shots bots on a weakspot hit

wind dagger
median steeple
#

Maybe it's just me but i never have problems with medium armor enemies the only one that has given me trouble due to their armor is the terminid guard

calm salmon
#

you can two shot a bile titan with railgun

#

you can two shot a bile titan with railgun

#

spams the above 6 or 7 more times

wind dagger
#

its a bug

#

and it will be fixed

calm salmon
#

Now, I'm gonna need proof of that

#

Because as it stands, its a very specific spot on the BT head

#

that unlocks the two shot

#

otherwise its 7 on safe, 5 on unsafe if you're just shooting the helmet/mouth

#

but the outer edges of the BT head are a two shot

#

near the eyes

median steeple
#

Also is it just me or do the bile titans look like the aliens from that tom cruise movie

#

Like their heads

calm salmon
#

give or take.

#

shoot the BT there with the railgun and its a two shot

spare talon
calm salmon
#

orbital laser gets stuck on big targets

#

which is super fuckin annoying

#

I really don't need the laser attacking a charger when there's 200 hunters

#

I almost wish they'd give it the exact opposite rules of the railcannon orbital

wind dagger
#

ive tried to duplicate this multiple times and it only works if im not the host and even then only sometimes

calm salmon
#

"Starts with the smallest targets first, working its way up to big targets"

wind dagger
#

either it's a bug with hosting or netcode fuckery w armor detection

#

either way something is fucked

calm salmon
#

apparently you can oneshot it while its puking

#

but I've never been able to replicate that one

#

but the two shot is super repeatable

wind dagger
#

you can't; that's old info from an old patch

calm salmon
#

I dunno, even if its a bug

#

it should be kept - but unbugged

#

ie: Ironed out

#

make it a reliable weakspot on a weakspot

#

so that RR one-shots it there, spear keeps the 1sbp on headshot altogether

#

eat oneshots it there

#

so on and so forth

spare talon
calm salmon
#

you can oneshot chargers with eagle airstrike

#

which is neat

#

but its RNG :(

median steeple
#

110s tracking is bugged or something

calm salmon
#

depends on which way the eagle is coming in

#

they just don't for me

#

like

#

at all

#

They go where the orb is

#

fullstop

wind dagger
#

railgun is already unfairly strong and doesn't need to be a magic wand for killing bile titans too tbqh

calm salmon
#

boom, even if its a magic wand

#

its an expensive one

median steeple
#

Also 500kgs dmg radius needs to be buffed it's criminally small compared to the visual explosion

wind dagger
#

that'd be fine too

#

honestly

#

for how much of a pain to use i don't think autocannon should have a backpack

hot jolt
#

I’m

#

What

#

There are other games on steam? Other than darktide and vermintide?

wind dagger
calm salmon
#

While I take the 500bomb pretty much every single mission

#

I do not like how clunky it is

#

I just learned to deal with it

#

that said, its basically a no-go if you have complex stratagem calculation on a planet

#

much like the EAT-17

#

going from 4 seconds to impact to 8 is backbreaking

#

the enemy AI is just too random for that amount of time, and how small the kill radius is

wind dagger
#

i like running ems orbital + gas + supply + gl against bugs provided other people are playing railgun

#

i solo every breach