#zealot-class
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Hopefully another mod will rename him lol
Stan joined the fight against super bacteria on the side of super bacteria
Denied
omg
Is that just a derp? I see stuff like that and I'm always afraid somebody's gonna say "actually he has Derpenflurper's syndrome and he's in a lot of pain :( "
it does not surprise me at all that stan is a nurgle vessel of decay
have you seen his food?
Unfortunately yes
I love them
Ferrets just like spinning
They made me feel better after being sick for a week
I want to build them a house and marry them
Movement is how they play

I lowkey want to cook real food for stan
And see if he is just damaged or traumatized or just has terrible taste
no, hes german
its genetic
Anyways this is my new favorite ferret clip, the happy snorting, the donk against the wall out of view, the absolute floofiness
Same gene that makes you crave horse meat and pickled cabbage makes you want to eat pale goop?
It is perfection
I mean, germans have pretzels at least
And uhh
Pork cutlet? Idk what they call it
Shit you right
Stan removed the salt from pretzels
This Ohio?
Ohio?
We don't talk about ohio2
Gotta be specific with your Midwest hellholes

Genetics apparently
Imagine Stan trying to spell schnitzel
Im gonna say a edgy joke and the mods are gonna judge me
But aren’t germans used to labeling others?

I await my fate but it was worth it 🙏 😔
New hotfix dropped today?
I'll cop it
Line has been drawn
Are you using arco graphics to see survivors more easily?
people who play this game on anything but low are psychopaths
yes please fill my screen with thick opaque fog
I am so happy that they buffed hillbilly as soon as I stopped playing Dead By Daylight, my hours of suffering may have meant nothing but his mains always deserved better
I meant officer
Ohio
Also stan im still begging
you mean fat?
Begging for what
😠
Make the pasta assassina
Idk if I like burnt pasta
It sounds like something youd like but actually a real dish
You dont have to burn that is just an italian thing
Golden brown/deep brown is fine
My dishes are real
Show me the historical evidence of your abominations
unfortunately
I've had leftover spaghetti in a frying pan before, shit slaps
Yea they werent cooking that (i hope) in 1700s germany
i cri
Best case scenario not until stan made it
This looks like someone emptied a liposuction bag into a bowl to eat with a spoon
Lol
Mmm goopy
<@&735928989146939404>
that moneys all mine now
😔
god damnit i keep missing the message deletions
I know, look away for three minutes and the drama's already over
i just started playing again after like 3 years off
i love u new hillbilly
also look at that fov 
The engravings curve 😩
Only 3 to go
I like looking at random builds out in the wild
Because what compelled you to believe this set of items and talents are cohesive
I like looking at you through your window
cant live without em
I enjoy your kirchen
D
D
DEAD BY DAYLIGHT??

Man I got excited seeing the ping
Bro I fucking hate arsonist eximus
So tru
I love how they added him to dbd
I found the perfect image to summarize the patch notes
For honor was my guilty pleasure
Enjoy the nothing I have to eat haha 
also overwatch 2 
Oh my god why does baldur need an update AGAIN
more kissing
I better be able to make love to a fucking dragon with this update
Damn that's 3 saryn primes in a row
And a nataruk
I can make that work
Poor guy
Corrupted vor can bite a cactus for all I care
"brothers, did I not tell this day?"
Shut the fuck up
Shove that Janus key up right there
Bro got flung'ded
For Honor lowkey kinda good when you stop giving a shit and just start hitting buttons
Sometimes it works out
When you start getting mad you should stop
And sometimes a poor dude has no idea how to read you because you're not thinking
xd
That way lies brain poison
I only get annoyed at worse
Sometimes they queue me up with tryhard Shinobi mains with like 1200 hours
I don't belong there
But I guess I need my ass humbled every so often
I used to main nobu and orochi
I suddenly gained the motivation to level up my Black Prior and just got them to Rep 9 two nights ago
I am not joking when I say I forgot how to play my Rep 20 Warmonger
Because I keep trying to flip and going "WAIT I'M NOT BLACK PRIOR" before eating a raw Heavy

Skill issue
Like every time I lose a fight it's 200% skill issue
Man plays hard mode, damn
Played as in past tense
A good Peacekeeper does genuinely scare me
Its been a while
Jesus Christ titania, yareli, nyx, ember
I'm gonna have to keep trying to get a void flood to skip this
Ur a jesus christ main?
No
Getting mad at games and games feeling like a job is a good hint to quit
Amen sister
ubisoft desperately not wanting to fuck up for honor cause its one of the few profitable games they have
Prayge
I quit dota 2 cause every game felt like i was babysitting
I only pray to narmer
They kinda have been ngl
Who
For mother she will bite my head off and drink my guts
Till the legs go click click click
I'm only saying that cause "haha Ubisoft hate train"
Ur guts are full of pepperoni
They definitely aren't paying their devs enough xd

no, worse
Fremf
I will force you to wear shoes in bed
Oh no
Ship him to fr*nce
ellis the goat
Me moments before shooting the Boomer my teammate was trying to shove
(he kept taking all the damn Pills )
for honor is so chill bro
It doesn't have anime girls so I can't play unfortunately smh
For honor is great when you have music blaring and no care for the world
me listening to 10 hour ragga jungle drum and bass mix hitting people with a stick
fellas when you mention there will be nobus at the function
it literally does
@sharp zodiac
we have muscle mommy hito and then just nobu in general
maybe because I fight bad ones that just spam heavies and thats boring to fight
It's a pretty good gradient.
for honor 
The platypus?
parry the platypus
the next hero should be a platypus
Doof’s to do list
ironhelm:
damage: 79
crowd control: 80
penetration: 75
defences: 59
first target: 80
+1.5 stam
+20% damage - caraspace
Lv3 thrust
Lv3 headtaker
any recommendations on perks/blessings to maximize this item?
ty
You too
im pretty sure its stam to flak and thrust to thrust 4
Swap Thrust to T4 and +Stamina to +Unyielding or Flak.
I put in overtime
awesome, thanks Exh
Flip got ratio'd lmao
another good year for gaming hell yea
time for the agony that is overwatch
bob time
EW HITO
Another victory for the
If I still had it I'd play with you
Tho I can sacrifice a game for it
lord forgive me the fucked hitboxes have made this game fun
also new comp changes are great but I havent played comp since OW1 💀
Not a fan of the emerald weapons
oh yeah ow2 hitboxes are weird right now
they're jade but they look more like emerald
just big box
they nerfed the mercy hitbox that was going around
I missed that season had some great shit
finally got thrust 4 for hammer so i can bonk better
maximum bonk potential achieved
Ah yeah her pellets being the size of trees
I don't get the hate for mercy players
Congrats
thanks >:)
Stickbugs can’t dance
can i dance

This is a question for the philosophers
Haven’t we had this conversation already
haha stan the man
If a Josho dances in the woods, does he make a sound?

No.
probably and depending on the dance
yes
Nein
doch



grew up in germany yes

CEASE
THIS IS NOT MADRID
Real
Not Madrid
what
what if it was madrid
i wish to be madrid
hello madrid
the stan name has unfortunately wore off
god bless
Cat time
Are you a German citizen or did you just grow up there
You can’t
My diary has been alright so far
Is Shred + Rampage a good combo on the mk. IV Devil's Claw?
I think for crit? ( I COULD BE VERY WRONG )
Ogryn Ultimate Blitz
Got I hope that’s an ash of war or a spell and not just a consumable
big pot
I need big bomba pot
mk3 or mk4 for the knify?
mk3 is better imo, it’s the pure single target knife
for combat shank? the london one?
people say mk3 better but i like the aoe of mk4
mk4 has more horde clear which kinda defeats the point of a knife imo
but to each their own
"more horde clear"
i don't like the heavy stabs of mk3. not enough damage for it to be a "fuck you in particular" attack and not enough of an area of attack to be a wave clear attack
which is why i like the arc of mk4
more is not a lot to be fair
like a miserable amount
which is why I like mk3 more
Run crit build with shroud, and uncanny precog on a knife
Some of the chunkiest chucks zealot can do
Push attack spam is also op on mk3
evis 15 and HAMMER are top tier for me
Tree Sentinel looking different
push attack is fun but the low stamina feels iffy to me
main advantage is the sheer survivability and speed of the knife
And it puts out higher single target dps overall than hammer if you’re aggressive with it
i hope its a weapon
it would be very funny
I’ve seen people already do pot builds in both pvp and pve and they look hilariously fun and surprisingly effective
Would fit right in
just smashing people with the giant pot
they had a soup ladle in ds2 now we need the cauldron for it
I really hope they expand on frenzy builds and weapons in the dlc
honestly forgor because people hardly talk about it
both
new knife is 6
vi
it does slashing heavies
better for general use than old knife, old knife has higher single target if you know the tricks
it’s just in a strange place rn, it’s like psyker obscurus. It’s got half the single target of mk3 and a fraction of the horde clear of other zealot melees, and isn’t really proficient in either
It's got a different ST profile, it can get hits out a touch bit faster, though each hit is slightly worse for damage. The main thing holding the weapon back is that all of the good ST combos have to chain into at least H2 at some point.
The PA is also slightly more friendly for usage, as it's a stab.
Are you human or did you just grow up on Earth
the MK6 is fine but its a knife so like 
they can't be too good at damage or they will be the best option beacuse of their movement
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1023740229074550804/1211463763874553856/80jepqe.mp4?ex=65ee4a8d&is=65dbd58d&hm=f9fc7ec372ac094cd470be0b184d99e85821f14203a003bf9997a32d92c8ea37& guys check out this wicked zealot knife gameplay
tfw ogryn player does the ogryn rumbler bug and can't even fucking deal damage with it
ogryns are normally annoying but good lord
ogryn player moment
nah bro thats just really good RP
legitimately all he did was make it harder to see shit and knocked enemies around
and gave noise pollution
could only hear half of the game
cuz constant explosions
the pub was a similarly smoothbrained ogryn so we couldnt votekick him
Well that's the neat thing, they're really competitive for ST damage, it's just the shit crowd damage that hinders it.
Bleed knife is op though
ye exactly
I think that’s why most shroud knife zealots are complete Garbo, they don’t realize why their kit is extremely good at killing high value targets and being overall an unkillable rat that can rez and do objectives for free
It's cool because we, as Zealot, have 2 wonderful options that make crowds vanish so it just works out w/ a Knife.
We need to get the Shade players back into being knife Zealots so they can be annoying in their trademarked Shade ways and therefore be actually good at using a knife.
is this a look into stans psyche?
god please no
i've had enough of shade knife zealots
shroud knife zealots have main character syndrome when they should be more like the less known secondary character that does all the background work
Apparently it's what Josho will sound like in 20 years.
Which would you rather have? Bleed knife Zealots or Shade knife Zealots?
you've literally just listed the same thing twice
what’s shade knife? Just another word for shroud?
This is a trolley problem you gotta pick one Mr. Bones
ye
Its from vermintide
ah
No it's a Vermintide class
I DON'T BECAUSE EVERY ZEALOT I MEET IS RUNNING BOTH
Shade was the stealth class
I played nothing but grail knight in vt2 so I wouldn’t know lmao
Shade is op in that game
i do see a fair bit of chastise knife zealots on na west
I'm talking about Shade from V2 Mr. Bones you gotta start over
every class is op in VT2
Vt2 balance is nice
i wonder how many people would take shroudfield if not for the until death -> holy rev line on the left side
answer the question or face the wrath of Stan
Ok shade is particulary op
na not even
especially compared to what HM or GK can do
GK 💀
glad we do NOT have an equivilant
I love playing shroudfield knife zealot
wait no we do thats chastise fuck
Thammer
no not that, i mean the "i ignore all armour and kill everything"
its just chastise zealot
Fatshark's most based decision was putting both crit cdr and Duellist on the left side of the tree and then putting Shroudfield on the right side.
Thammer
actually based
even if until death and stuff wasn't on the left side i would still play chastise purely cuz it's the most fun
na thammer is not GK at all
true, i enjoy chastise for that as well
and me not wanting to drop aggro
chastis is also the best zealot ability
grail knight is cool
its got so much bloat
cant wait for bret longsword in darktide
dw zealot is just worse orgyn
(top 10 things i've heard in patch 12 and before)
the bonking is going well, just had over 200k boss bonk damage
i still hear it argo
longsword the best skill based weapon in vt2
i simply block my ears
very upsetting
especially heavy blocking properties
just dont accidentally guardbreak yourself from heavying a horde
I remember queueing into a game as psyker and watched an ogryn player type "Why do people play classes other than ogryn? They just do what ogryn already does but worse"
i've simply rationalized it as ogryn players doing irl rp
awful
i main ogryn and i was like exasperated
i take both
ogryn is bigger so he is better. simple as.
i’ve noticed a trend that most toxic and less smart players tend to be ogryns
bigger man bigger boolet bigger brain
ogryns rps are 50/50 either the best or worst people in the game
real
and the worst people will always go straight toxic
i was in a match with an ogryn who kept telling us scoreboard stats the entire match
this is peak darktide gameplay
rip @fair igloo
psycho jumpscare
scoreboard was the best worst thing to happen to this game
hey don't hate on my character EmotionalSuppogryn like that 😭
awful
i hate people like that
two of the three people who've flamed me in game have been ogryns so far
it was so annoying, then he ended up going down and he was almost screaming to get him up
Like, the only person who has called me slurs via spamming keybind was an ogryn for me taking a small ammo when we were both low
Ty ty
Good thing I managed to kill that reaper before the shotgunner killed me
scoreboard is great for measuring self performance but i'm only gonna use it against someone if they flame me first
the only time i’ve ever gotten annoyed at a team not getting me up was after i cleared like 8 gunners and got sniped and watched 2 teammates die to one gunner and one sniper
thats frustrating lol
I didn't have scoreboard installed until I learned there was an option to turn it off mid mission so that it only appears at the end of the match
i got very very annoyed at someone triggering a host
watching your team lemming in front of the sniper instead of simply the downed person pinging the sniper
i love when i get netted and my teammates think you have to kill the entire lobby before getting you out
oh wow this person went down to a sniper shot, i better go for the rez while the sniper aims at me
Sometimes u just make a small mistake and the world decides you should suffer for it 💔
Kitti
oh my rez got interrupted cause the sniper shot me, what a turn of events who could guess
LOLOLLOL
had an ogryn get mad at the team because he got netted into a flamer and rager pack (and was decently from the team) and it took us time to actually get to him and he ended up dying and he calls us useless trash
ye i had an ogryn actually leave a match for this
i loveee power sword plasma gun vets
that vet has brain damage
its always ogryn players 
i ran n into him the next match and said “i don’t wanna talk about”
who had to stand still to aim at bulwarks with plasma, and still missed
that isn't fair to people like me who have brain damage
let me proceed to attempt the revive again and be surprised when i get sniped again
😠
well ye hes running plasma
Honestly i can't be mad when i run into players like that because i also have those moments
rude
i heard the banana slip sfx in my head
this is just a harmless mistake
there was one time an ogryn player got netted and dragged into the fire, and the rest of us were dealing with a hoarde and everything else, and he was saying in the voice chat to get him up and i was like, no dude you're in the middle of fire and a shit ton of elites and we are dealing with everything else. and he goes "DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO BLOCK?" and i said "do you not know how to stay alive?" and he tried vote kicking me lol
also is that the same va as the fem v from cyberpunk
i didn't even know you COULD fall in that hallway
NO WAY thats your real voice
ive done it once before
and got clowned on by @frozen glen
found it
osha doesn't exist in darktide
kids these days, taking things like "safety railings" for granted
or the imperium for that matter
i slipped on the sniper's blood
fuck osha all my homies die at work
don't call in sick, die at work, be a man
wait maybe perty was the OSHA, he seems like the type of jackass who would be a stickler for that
give your co workers covid
if perty didn't fall to chaos the imperium wouldn't have it's workplace safety issues
Don't call in sick, systematically spread the disease to everyone in the office so everyone misses their project deadline and the company has to deal with the repercussions
I once showed up to my work a bit under the weather
Turned out i had the rona
Cause i did a test at work
i was doing a malice maelstrom cause it was the one that makes weaked monstrosities. I went up to a demon host and one guy starts going "DUDE WHAT ARE YOU DOING" and i one shot bonked it and he goes "well, okay. but still" lol
I want demonhosts to be as scary as witches
They are, u just gotta be unlucky enough to have a team without tank busters 
are you listening to spooky ambience what is that lol
(getting crowned or sniped down a long lane)
sprint slide
It was 4 seconds of the ending to a song in my playlist
i listen to spotify while playing :)
nice
they are
you just crowned witches
i listen to the carnival hoarde music when i play lol
I can’t listen to music I depend so much on audio cues in this game
that's fair but I meant SCARY like the fear factor
can’t dodge a trapper if I don’t hear em
only slightly, only slightly
i think DH are pretty scary
I thought this at first too but the audio cues are so well designed that you can easily make them out even while listening to music
Ya I still shit my pants if a stray bullet makes em wake up, idk bout u
i guess for daemonhosts it's a little hard to tell when it's starting to wake up
maybe their post aggro'ing lines could be louder for the person targetted
whereas some sound cues play for witches and the animation being obvious esp for sitting witches
like it's in your head
once you learn how to kill DH they arent bad at all
I’ve gotten to the point where I can recognize all the specials voices as soon as they spawn in
though l4d2 has a bit more leeway with its sound design since it can use stuff like pianos and violin screeches and whatnot
It’s too drastic of a difference for me tbh
Oh for sure but you wouldn’t rock the DH buster all matches right? 
it's cuz like everyone still has alot of options to fight the demonhost when it wakes up vs like the l4d2 witch where ifyou fail to crown it you basically have to spray and panic
So u still got chances of being helpless to a agroed one
Like if you wake up a demonhost oh nooo dodge it or block it with like a slab shield or kinetic deflection or like shoot it with a plasma gun or just do zealot things
stagger it with bully clubs or something
I mean in left for dead 2 they had the shotgun method
Nah that was my character, tho my voice isn't too far off
i see DH, i bonk
Practically one shots the witches
Nah the where are we going part
I understand that but what if u ain’t rockin the bonk? 
still think there should be a modified pre aggro'd daemonhost as a monstrosity
Ik that's why my msg included "If you failed to crown it" :)
i always bonk >:3
cuz the easiest way to deal with witches is to just not fight them at all
that's what makes them so scary when they DO wake up
Oh never heard of the turn crown before
Term
Assumed it was the literal one
Oh that was a friend watching lol
ohhh Lol
crowning exists
What is crowing
i knowww!! i'm saying witches are scary if you DON'T crown them
cuz like after that u don't really have options vs the 20 bazillion things u can do vs a demonhost
true, and then u find explosive ammo
It's just shooting them in the head with a shotgun
shotgun to the head at pointblank kills except on expert
Oh cool thanks
expert you can crown but you need to double tap (autoshotguns) or have a second person help (semi auto shotguns)
i wish ogryn had a weapon like the crushers have lol
since it stands still and exposes the head it's really easy
should one-shot on expert
hunter was my favorite special to fight ngl, loved dodging them jumps
i thought they nerfed expert crowning
it's realism where it doesn't work because you no longer have the massive damage multiplier for shotguns when you land all pellets
Your friend sounds adorable
confused expert and expert realism
Best part of hunter was wall bouncing until you could get 25hp dmg pounces
l4d2 style vs mode where players can control specials 👀
I remember very early on when this was not capped and you could down a full hp survivor with a well timed rooftop pounce
vt2 style vs mode
i've never played vt2 sooooo
(same)
Unheard of
Is this actually announced for reals this time?
people have been streaming it so far it seems
Is the tactical axe as bad as it seems? And, is the mark IV the worst one, right?
i've been considering selling tf2 items on SCM to get the necromancer DLC for vt2 because I refuse to play it w/o a summoner class and i'm wondering if it's worth it
and i'm also wondering if it'd be possible to get a summoner class in darktide since VT2 has one
Do it
Is fun
Taxes are not great
Handful of lads are like “other careers do crit better” but I’m like
“Bitch I have a army of skeletons ur argument is invalid”
If I wanted to worry bout crit id rock pyromancer
"Idk. There are more people here that agree with me than you so"
skeletons nod in agreement
My tekken 8 ghost is starting to kick my ass
i'm actually completely blind when it comes to VT2 so i'm just mostsly going to assume it's like darktide but w/ more focus on melee combat and fantasy
and rats
It's worth it honestly
Skeletons are really good at redirecting problems from you
That and the 2 flame passives that let u and ur skeletons do more damage to things
As well as lasting longer than usual
I'm actually glad that the necromancer is a REAL summoner class and it's not like a "Oooh you summon a magical beast to come out of the ground and bite your enemies" and it's really just an AOE spell with a "summoning" animation
or games like terraria where summoning is basically a glorified automatic damage over time
I just made my skeles stronger in defence
Always viewed them as meatshields more than anything
what are the diff types of skeletons u can summon?
Oh I ain’t talkin the 30 level talent just the passives u get play the start
I’m with u on that tho shield skeles are fun
Regular, armored and dual wielding
Normal skeletons tanky skeletons amd damage skeletons
now the question is do i buy the cosmetic upgrade or not...
sell your australium medic gun
Makes me look like a discount nazgul
but it's my most progressed strange :(
I actually am not a fan of scythe on necromancer
i can't get rid of my baby 💔
That’s fine the flail is pretty good with necro too
oh wait u actually get diff weapon types?
stronger emphasis on melee combat and i'd argue it's a lot less forgiving when you get hit since you have temp HP instead of shields, and the little fodder rats have a more subtle notification for when you're about to get hit
and bone staff
U get 1 from the necro thingy, flail’s another dlc
doesnt the scythe have built in brainburst
Nuh uh
Temp HP? Like overheal or?
That's bone staff
ohhhh
Scythe has got everything I wanted from a melee in Vermintide 2
Damage, cleave, range and good moveset
need the scythe in darktide somehow
scythe is also just thematically appropriate for a necromancer so
make it a psyker power scythe
And with unchained being unchained
The downside of scythe being slow
Just vanishes
I want a psyker melee weapon that the psyker lifts and swings with their mind. I don't care if it would be effective or practical or what the melee would be
Slaps heretics with my mind
It is decided. I'll be the clutch king with this... Thing

my ghost somehow did an unblockable against me
i am offended by the sheer audacity
i dont think it's worth to go BM on taxe anymore
just double down on the power blessings
it has a base cleave of 3 now anyways
Decimator maybe
BM is good on Taxe, esp on the Mk II and VII.
deserved
mmm chat
wings
rubbin ma belly fr
where my bloodborne fans at
midborne
A hoonter must hoont
erm take it back!
Reminds me of that "you don't wanna see me turn into a chud" guy
A zeeloot must zeel
i wish i could share a screenshot but image sharing on ps sucks
That pfp 
I have to update it, I got a 10% roll the other day 
up to the 0%
Can't wait for the 1% damage ironhelm
Is it possible to roll below 10% on a stat?
Yep
Time to create a low level zealot so I can reach the divinity of 1% damage helm
0% is possible
god's strongest soldier
Lord Commander Hamstaroth
this a good blessing for hsword 9? this particular weapon is a scrap anyway but just wanna know if it's worth it to earn the blessing or to just docket scrap it
This is an amazing IV
no not really
Wrath and Savage Sweep aren't high priorities on the Hsword.
You can steal the blessing since it's not gonna be a lot of ordos
i got rampage 4 on another one and have headtaker on my current one
Headtaker is a must
Deathblow is usually the next preferred, Rampage third place
poor
and bricked
wait i have deathblow 3
i'm guessing the 370 base has better stats?
the perks are horrid tho
i would take rampage
Well you got the two blessings at IV to rip once you get your perfect one
which one to keep for now? the 367 and earn the rampage?
ye
No, first target is really important
Take rampage
Cleave damage is less important I think
HT+Rampage+unyielding+flak looks ok
Does it oneshot Mutants without Maniac?
yes
on weakspot but it's fine generally
you need to stack acc up and crit rate up
Finally decided to try out flamer + thammer zealot!!
Evil
2 guns? how?
Hey guys, uh... what's finess damage? I was gonna post something asking about Fury of the Faithful vs shroudfield for a hammer build, but I think I need to know what finess damage is first.
UMMMM
umm
that's actually my relic
weakpoint damage
Thanks!
and critical too
Okay, that makes sense. Are critical hits still some small amount, like 5%?
I feel bad asking these here but I'm not sure where else to look. I feel like this discord is one of the few places I can trust with good DT advice
It can depend I think
crit builds with blazing piety is a common melee zealot build i thinkkk but i'm a little dumb
finesse is your weakspot and crit damage multipliers, but specifically just that section of damage
so say you have a weapon that does 100 damage, and has 1.0 finesse (100% bonus), it would do 200 on a headshot
if you got 25% bonu weakspot or finesse, it would only apply to the weakspot portion, bringing the total to 225 instead of 250
crit hti for hammer is just the base yes, not really good at all
you don't go blazing piety hammer cause backstab cdr exists and hammer just doesn't scale off crits well
if you want a critting weapon with a single target function i recomnend Evi
Or the forbidden weapon
what forbidden weapon
knife
Crit chance almost always are small incremental values that add up in a crit build to be noticeably impactful
Finesse dmg is how you usually want to increase Crit dmg
knife isn't forbidden besdies the fact everyone wnats to build a shit one
true
"hey guys here is my crit damage crit chance knife with lacerate mercy killer!"
+crit dmg is just literal scam
yee, it takes a high number to make crit chance/finesse damage worth while AND the perks are not it
scourge and blazing peity? good
5% perk? no
duelist talent? good
10% perk? NO
Okay, thanks. I'm not even going to experiment with it. I was thinking it might be worth it just to give me some time to line up a perfect week spot crusher hit. Now I'm not.
The game theory class I took 8 years ago makes me roll my eyes at crit builds. I'd rather just deal more damage 100% of the time.
well thats the thing, crit works in darktide, probably a bit too well since u can crit too much
its just weapon reliant
Don't just think of crits as damage
Think of them as cooldown reduction
crit has too much attached to it
That one node above blazing Piety is genuinely OP as fuck
this kickback bug is just as bad as the surge/smite bug jfc
cause its also armour bypass
Crits can be very good (especially for zealot) but that varies from weapon to weapon
Also, consider that some weapons don't just crit once when they crit
CIAG for example, if it triggers a crit it will crit 6 bullets in a row.
Invocation of death is very strong but not quite “mandatory” pick
worse imo
a rumbler bug abuser completely nullifies most of auric damn
i had to block a guy doing it with rumbler because he was also just being useless
he hardly killed anything it was just super annoying
yeah this is leave the match if i see it worthy
my ogryn at least killed stuff cause kickback
it was just boring
What bug is it
BLO triggers on 0 ammo remaining
see ogryn, leave match
So you can set a macro to LMB every 25 ms
nothing has changed
and braindead your way through a match (more than ogryn already does)
he would legit just fire it at everything including on top of people so my screen would just get filled with smoke but because its rumbler stuff didnt die
All the time?
870k damage without taking out melee
8% per trigger pull
So it comes out in random spurts
Oh nvm I get it
You don't even have to reload it
Ngl that’s hilarious and broken at the same time
Your Rumbler becomes stronger once it is out of ammo
yeah you literally just spam it
so it was like playing with me when i rumblered
no because i could see when playing with you
this fucking smoothbrain was just making it hard to see/hear stuff
you just wished you couldn't
im sick of this ogryn racism its not theyre fault they dont know what zero means and keep shooting their gun even when it's empty
my hatred for ogryn has somehow increased further
can we just
remove ogryn
dont even replace them just get rid of the fucking class
"ogryn has been removed until it can be fixed" hero shooter style
general IQ of DT players would increase tenfold
except they never bring it back
unironically just leaving on the sight of ogryn players at this point they are all infuriating
if i do boot up DT again any time soon yea that'll probably be what i do
All guns should be able to cleave through friendly Ogryns
thankfully HD2 has me rn
"i dont wanna work for anything" ass class
so i can keep skirting this issue
HD2 is fun but IDK, I still love DT. It's a good game.
helldivers is fun with ppl but it is nowhere near as interesting of a game to play beyond some of the cool moments
basically ye
it's got interesting enough mechanics
HD2 feel;s more like it's about the fantasy of being expenable. In DT you feel like a lynch pin for the Inquisitor's warband.
just ditch the bubble shield and the railgun
yeah HD2 is fun but i dont see myself playing it outside of with friends
if u think stuff spawning on top of u is bad in dt
That's my thing too, with friends, awesome
imagine friendly fire
the patrol spawns in this game are pure aids
ogryns die within seconds
BUG TUNNEL DETECTED
im also still having crashing issues
i have bugs where ppl fucking get set on fire and then for some reason i get like sympathy immolated
so i cant play it rn anyway
One plasma veteran would get so many ogryn team kills
xD
there's a flower on one of the planet presets that's like
ye the AMD issue still hasn't been patched yoshi
sad
you will bleed to death with no UI indicator that you are bleeding to death
I need them to add FSR3 to DT soon so I can get better framerate without using a mod
very fun
ps Erebus did nothing wrong!
Ork mode
bleeding to death with no indicator sure does seem similar to early darktide (though you did get blue tick marks at the edges of your screen)
If you convince an ork that a stick is a bazooka, he'll launch rokkits from it
Saw some dude who hacked HD2 and added an unreleased strategem that calls down several AI Helldivers
That was neat
xD
sure old man
its one of those things they can inject into your game
bitch
You can set it to a 2ms delay.
cant believe they finally balanced the plasma gun
i needed to release my anger at ogryn and unfort you were the victim
Balance?
understandable
gonna use this as reasoning why they should nerf kickback
They finally balanced the plasma?
the ogryn bug is the same kind of fucking infuriating bugged EP smite was
thats how balancing works DUH
where it just filled ur screen with FPS destroying fog
Ah 
skele i think there was reason to nerf kickback before this
If I find your name on a change like that I'd personally obliterate you.
Meh, I have a god roll Bolter I use. It's amazing
give the kickback the rumbler ammo pool
Cuz it chews through basically anything if used right xD
yes i know youre stunlocking that crowd of groaners but you are also stunlocking my entire PC please stop oh my FUCK
WHY DID IT GET BUFFED
id like to see kickback also lose some range
ngl
if it wants to decimate shit w/e
It needs a nerf but a nerf that makes lucky bullet spam balanced would make Kickback worse than what it used to be

just as ogryn deserves 😤
TRUE
guys dont be ridiculous
i cant even play ogryn without just feeling fucking brainfogged at this point
like all of the weapons are fucking stupidf
look at bad guy heavy attack or pull trigger bad guy dead
ur so right
nerfs bad
buffing shovel with 4.0 finesse
yeah ogryn has reached the point for me where the class actually fucking bothers me and i dont even play it
I just think ranged weapons should be able to cleave through friendly Ogryns by default
doubling obscuros L2 damage
Unless a weapon is breaking the game in co-op nerfs arent usually a good idea. Something has to be so good there's no other options. At all.
imagine the new people reading what you guys are saying and not knowing that you guys are being ironic
THammers now get brutal momentum
SOOOOOO TRUUUUEEE
whats irony?
It's so goofy that Ogryn is thematically hard to balance because his melee weapons are gonna be fucking overpowered compared to any non-powered weapon and his ranged weapons are 7x larger than human ones
see that depends on the game
if you dont want a challenging game with an intended difficulty, sure
but if you intend for there to be a level of ballance and a challenge then you HAVE to balance things, even if that means nerfs
solution: add an ogryn difficulty where ogryn is comically stronger than the others
imagine, if you would, a class where the ranged weapons are brainbustingly OP but ammo economy management is important and Survivalist doesn't exist.
🙂
But what is nerf worthy right now? I can't think of anything.
It’s also very goofy that combat axe does more dmg than like every single ogryn melee

we would be here all day ngl
it's less difficulty and it's more about contribution. nobody wants to feel like they're being babysat underneath another player. you've felt this before if you ever ran through an ARPG or MMO as a level 1 with your levle 80 friends you just want to 'gear you up'
i'd love a world where survival didn't exist and ammo econ was rebalanced but i dont see it happening
That's nice and opinions are great but without logic it's just personal opinions. So IDK.
same as i don't see ogryn getting hit too hard on nerfs
Columnus mk5
Plasma gun
Zarona revolver
Kickback
yeah surv is very problematic
people are familiar with what they have so they won't change it too much
well the logic is that you can steamroll the game at the highest difficulties
Do any of those thing strivialize the game to the point where it homogenizes builds? If not...IDK.
assail/void/trauma/plasma/uncanny/rending/ogryn everything/revolver/psword/deimos/duelling sword 4/surv
i mean they come pretty close
and i dont think things need to invalidate the game to be nerf worthy
Idk abt u but a pretty significant amount of people just play Columnus mk5 and Zarona revolver
I mean, I think trappers are op and dumb. But I don't really have anything but feels to back it up so like. Eh.
That could just be ease of use as much as balance.
honestly? yes
if you see a psyker they WILL have assail, if you see an ogryn they most likely have kickback, most zealots are running revolver with handcannon
i mean things being that broken and that easy to use its own issue
thats a huge problem with ogryn stuff
it has vastly affected the current build variety we see in game
you should not get plasma reward for pointing and clicking in the general direction of the bad guy
Most sounds suspiciously like hearsay so again IDK.
sure, ease of use plays into it
e.g., revolver bullet magnetism
i say most cause some people (i.e. me and my friends) don't care and play w/e we want
but when you get into a match with someone running assail and rending warp fire you feel it immediatly
Obv ease of use makes things more accessible but that doesn’t take away how strong they are rn and I think they can be tuned down a small amount
and its so common
yeah theres just so much rn
we live in a world where every class has some option that 1-to-3 shots crushers
But you could do any number of things to swap out that revolver for something else, in that case it's just preference. AS a Zealot main I use a bolter and an eviscerator and I play accordingly. It's still very effective, it's just not that backstab vanguard stuff.
yes it still works
everything works
you can yes,
most people don't because the revolver 1 shots all none boss targets
BM, Deathblow (both can just be base weapon mechanics and balanced around that, like cleave instead of x targets). Power Blessings in general, Plasma Gun just a tad, Columnus IAG even smaller of a tad, Rending sources, Chainsword in general, Mk IV Chaxe just a tad, not a nerf but the force swords need rebalancing w/ eachother, Voidstrike, Mk III HH Autogun and/or a IX buff, and Duelling Swords, all imo of course as I'm sure someone would rip me apart for something I've said. This is only for human classes, I don't play Ogryn anymore. Talents would be a list at least 4x larger.
this does not mean things arent op
We’re in a soft meta, that doesn’t take away the fact that some weapons are very visibly outperforming others
And what does that cost the revolver? There's always a drawback to hyper specialized stuff
not really
I can think of 2 right now
thats the issue
OK lol
most stuff is really good with no drawback
ammo, except the ammo economy is broken in this game and you have more than enough shots to kill HVTs
or not enough drawback
also, the revolver has bullet magnetism to offset the probability of missing
revolver isn't even specialized, it deletes everything for free
I'd like to see them nerf power maul. I know it doesn't need to be nerfed, I just wonder if it can be done.
This kinda yeah. I feel like a decent amount of stuff could be easily balanced around ammo but it's just, too easy to bypass that.
void doesnt even need manage ammo and hardly needs to be aimed
oh no i have to press R
Revolver has a crappy reload and lacks any measure of ranged CC. It's good at one thing and one thing only: killing elites.
to quell
vet's weapon spec easily bypassing the weaknesses of the revolver
it has the most ranged suppression per shot of any gun
yeah and good thing you have your melee for anything else



