dump stat is always mobility/def
#zealot-class
north sedge
otherwise you're generally better off crafting from white unless you get really lucky, or need to find blessings in melks
past tartan
was thinking or getting needed blessing from melk and vendors whenever a good weapon appeared from the extension, meanwhile ill lvl other classes while checking every hour
sharp zodiac
Wonder what to play
steel agate
seems u already found it
grizzled tusk
how do you build Bolter on zealot? what breakpoint can be achieved and which are not practical to aim for?
obtuse stirrup
how do you build Bolter on zealot? what breakpoint can be achieved and which are...
Take throwing knives
cinder roost
man that 3rd heavy on the iron helm is something else if you can pull it off with the special active and 3 stacks of thrust
grizzled tusk
Take throwing knives
that's very helpful, I didn't realize knives boost bolter's dmg
obtuse stirrup
that's very helpful, I didn't realize knives boost bolter's dmg
They make it faster to draw your weapon out
Swap > throw knife
sharp zodiac
seems u already found it
I have indeed
obtuse stirrup
Skips the bolt slide from the animation
grizzled tusk
Swap > throw knife
oh! I see; they really do!!
I'm sorry, I thought you were disregarding my question in favor of another choice
obtuse stirrup
oh! I see; they really do!!
I'm sorry, I thought you were disregarding my questi...
Nope, genuine advice lol. I don't know much more to help though :/
grizzled tusk
that's interesting interaction
obtuse stirrup
Works well with flamer too
north sedge
man that 3rd heavy on the iron helm is something else if you can pull it off wit...
almost as strong as a crucis heavy
grizzled tusk
and it seems like... bolter has reverse damage falloff?!
with +25% unarmored and guaranteed crit from surgical I managed to get 1342 damage upclose... that goes up to 1400 (1-hs-kill) at around 25 meters | Edit: yes, it's even outlined in the stats, lol
cinder roost
almost as strong as a crucis heavy
I one shotted a weakened monstrocity with it by accident lol
though I have been able to do that with an iron helm sweeping heavy from time to time
grizzled tusk
meh, with 79% dmg, 78% collateral, 10% elites, 25% unarmored I can reliably kill dreg gunners with hs, but I only deal 1195 (out of 1200 hp) to scab gunner which is fucking awful - I wonder if that 3% missing from perfect dmg rolls would be enough to make a difference here
cinder roost
meh, with 79% dmg, 78% collateral, 10% elites, 25% unarmored I can reliably kill...
find out
cinder roost
grizzled tusk
1198 with max rolls so the answer is not possible to 1 hs kill them with such setup
cinder roost
its accurate
also there is a mod for pc that allows you to make whatever weapon with whatever stats you want for single player(another mod)/psykhanium
so you could test it in game if you wanted
polar nexus
loadout manager
red pollen
Is this talent completely pointless if you’re deliberately at your last wound on martyrdom
glacial stratus
what is the helldivers discord channel?
grizzled tusk
heretic!
polar nexus
what is the helldivers discord channel?
zealot chat
hushed knoll
almost as strong as a crucis heavy
polar nexus
Is this talent completely pointless if you’re deliberately at your last wound on...
that's a good question, and i tend to keep 2 wounds
polar nexus
and it seems like... bolter has reverse damage falloff?!
bolter rounds are mini rockets
ripe quest
@gray ice
gray ice
He's russian spy
cinder roost
He's russian spy
ripe quest
damn exhil getting downvoted too
The post itself has a high upvote rating or smth
I got 150 for saying I was emulating my game on a PS Vita
coarse birch
lol
coarse birch
that is so sad
ripe quest
Now the trolling commences
elfin steppe
What did FS do? this is the second game I've played today that couldn't find another player
hushed knoll
Now the trolling commences
Exhillious why did you ping me and delete it
cinder roost
What did FS do? this is the second game I've played today that couldn't find ano...
somethings up with that, keeps happening to me
tropic terrace
I got 150 for saying I was emulating my game on a PS Vita
Your post reminded me of how my Vermintide used to look
ripe quest
Exhillious why did you ping me and delete it
Those are a lot of words for a liar Stan.
hushed knoll
Those are a lot of words for a liar Stan.
ripe quest
Ah yeah I do my graphics so that I can just get 150 frames and no input lag during histg auric hordes
hushed knoll
You're gaslighting me
ripe quest
I have a computer that can run this game just fine but sometimes it's annoying so I nuked the annoying parts
delicate shadow
Hi stan
tropic terrace
my upgraded pc died recently and i've had to return to the old shit one in the meantime
if this one tried to run darktide it'd fry inside out
ripe quest
You're gaslighting me
Clearly not, I haven't directly pinged you since the 14th.
royal vortex
14th of what
drifting wolf
century
north sedge
royal vortex
go back to counting ur psyker inventory
coarse birch
ill count my inventory you open a bag of granola we will see who finishes first
royal vortex
wtf
coarse birch
wym wtf you came at me
polar nexus
good fucking lord
coarse birch
reddit moment
polar nexus
that famous carapace bp
frosty herald
good fucking lord
Unsalvagable
polar nexus
no hope
sharp zodiac
Fun frame
hushed knoll
Should I microwave this more
frosty herald
People should just run slaught and thrust with maniac and unyielding
Scab stuff youll kill with the charged hesvy
elfin steppe
Should I microwave this more
Are you eating Nnurgle soup
hushed knoll
It’s ice cream
elfin steppe
nurgle ice cream
royal vortex
Should I microwave this more
no
gray ice
Stan truly gives me hope that one day humanity will see the error of its ways
and hit the nuclear factory reset
visual stream
People should just run slaught and thrust with maniac and unyielding
Maniac not really as helpful as it was pre-tree patch tbh
frosty herald
On ironhelm it reaches breakpoints better
visual stream
Both ragers can be killed with a lil bit of thrust and a headshot, more thrust if no headshot, but with any slaught/headtaker stacks you can rapid dispatch them
Once you get the ball rolling or if it already was then you don't need thrust anymore to BP ragers
Difference if opinion though, it's still valid to want to reach breakpoints faster as a baseline
visual stream
I'm currently trying to roll a hammer for both elite and flak so I can all in the mauler breakpoint to see what helm's limit is on that 
visual stream
And cold pizza
I can not defend cold pizza
Mayo chicken and maybe melted ice cream but not cold pizza
north sedge
Cold pizza is fine as a thing, the deranged part is preferring it cold
visual stream
I can barely tolerate it cold but will in a pinch, but nah that's crazy
drifting wolf
Should I microwave this more
not again
cinder roost
Should I microwave this more
red pollen
I think they goofed hard on the latest patch
A few patches ago they made it so knife zealot, rock ogryn, and Psyker will always show white grenades
Now it has reverted so even Psyker low on assail charges has yellow or red grenades
Same with knife and rock
Near impossible to find teammates this weekend
Silent monstrous specials spawn behind you
Got a clip of 100 poxwalkers spawning on a staircase
coarse birch
@royal vortex holy shit bolter MF vet is so fun
ripe quest
They did disturb a lot with the patch, some of the stuff hasn't been touched since it was first added. Wouldn't doubt some bugs being numerous. Though the poxwalker and monstrous specials thing isn't particularly new.
coarse birch
this is my first game so still stuff to work on
royal vortex
<@445566734255259648> holy shit bolter MF vet is so fun
u simply blast
royal vortex
it's v tight bps on literally everything and u get 15 shots of just carnage
unyielding/flak
maniac is ok too mostly for consistency on stuff
royal vortex
flak gets u a mauler bodyshot BP at full marksman stacks
royal vortex
it's an incredibly powerful build that ppl kinda just sleep on a lil bit
coarse birch
Its not even super hard to run since MF just lets you body shot
royal vortex
you have such insane versatility in what u can shoot at and very few enemies are ever problematic for the gun
yea
coarse birch
Im not even running deadshot
royal vortex
but ppl run shout because something something shooting with poxwalkers in ur face is hard
royal vortex
Im not even running deadshot
u must staminamax
the big funny is getting shot at <50 stam gives you stamina back so duck n dive isn't even super needed if you have CK up and just face tank gunners
taxe2 is unironically nice for it if you're running just like reciprocity for the crit BM bps on bruisers
hushed knoll
I am gucci
royal vortex
hell yeah
hushed knoll
I am listening to Bulgarian folk music
royal vortex
is it any good
hushed knoll
Im not even running deadshot
Oh hi I didn't recognize you
hushed knoll
is it any good
Have you ever heard it
north sedge
do they wear bell bottoms
royal vortex
how the hell did you end up here
north sedge
i feel like ive heard something like this
nimble fiber
seems familiar
hushed knoll
They use bulgarian choir music in it
royal vortex
I have a very eclectic taste it in
fair enough
hushed knoll
I used to be a composer you know
hushed knoll
Academia killed my passion for it
nimble fiber
maybe you will find that passion again someday
hushed knoll
visual stream
I used to play the tuba
royal vortex
did u type that emote in
visual stream
7 years of being smaller than the thing I played
nimble fiber
I had a guitar class and even bought a expensive ass guitar for it, lessons were over and stopped playing 
visual stream
I had a guitar class and even bought a expensive ass guitar for it, lessons were...
On* the bright side, you own the guitar and you may make use of it yet from the internet 
hushed knoll
did u type that emote in
Yes
royal vortex
Yes
have u thought about how its naming scheme is the same as mine
shruggo
froggo
visual stream
Sadly for me, tubas are multiple thousands of dollars, and that was pre-pandemic that I last checked
visual stream
I'm cooked
hushed knoll
What
royal vortex
consider it
hushed knoll
I don't think there is anything to think about
royal vortex
but have u thought about it enough to come to that conclusion
fleet zealot
hushed knoll
but have u thought about it enough to come to that conclusion
Have you found your path? Look within and develop yourself. The biosphere is calling to you via electromagnetic forces. Can you hear it?
royal vortex
hushed knoll
We must fulfill ourselves and strengthen others. Eons from now, we mystics will believe like never before as we are re-energized by the quantum cycle. It is time to take insight to the next level.
frosty herald
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-shadows-of-the-erdtree-elden-ring-shadows-of-t...
Non-locality requires exploration. This life is nothing short of a redefining unifying of ever-present self-actualization.
frosty herald
Reads nietze once or something
royal vortex
shit stan. u right
frosty herald
frosty herald
Forgivr
cinder roost
forgivrn
north sedge
lusty turtle
which word was what
coarse birch
Oh hi I didn't recognize you
hi
lusty turtle
Yoshi why are you literally 1982
hushed knoll
This ice cream I ate is powering my leg motors
royal vortex
how
drifting wolf
sugar rush
hushed knoll
I just feel like I'm wriggling around on my bed
drifting wolf
your metamorphosis is beginning, soon you will weave yourself into a cocoon to grow into something beautiful
lusty turtle
Stan 2 
coarse birch
uh oh
nimble fiber
a big spider with wings
royal vortex
the new psyker drip is not bad
i hate like 90% of the stuff they release for psyker
for some reason i am not inclined to stick a fucking toilet bowl on my head
nimble fiber
im not too sure about the lair beneath the golden pattern
otherwise it looks quite good
royal vortex
i like it for the vibe of desperately trying to appear more sophisticated than he actually is
nimble fiber
also 95% off psykers headpieces look goofy
royal vortex
yea
lusty turtle
also 95% off psykers headpieces look goofy
Psykers ARE goofy
nimble fiber
true
lusty turtle
Just look at arco
nimble fiber
arco is trapped in a cartoon
buoyant pecan
arco's graphics genuinely reflect how the seer sees the world
canonically accurate pysker gameplay
royal vortex
u understand...
lusty turtle
Bolter bad tho
royal vortex
aggressively mid
coarse birch
whats your skill tree
lusty turtle
Just like assail
coarse birch
out of curiosity
zinc talon
coarse birch
thats mostly mine actually except i took TBTA and no duck and dive
but im also not running deadshot
coarse birch
Bolter bad tho
zinc talon
coarse birch
ik the grenade killed a chunk but still
royal vortex
the pack of 30-50 feral ragers realizing they have chosen a long hallway to engage the strike team in
coarse birch
also this is my tree, i should prob swap in the highlight ogryns if im running TBTA
royal vortex
yea i mean i take the ogryn highlight always on bolter because one of the cool things is u get to eat bulwarks n reapers for breakfast
also this is just the sickest rev animation ever
hushed knoll
whats your skill tree
You are not cent socks
coarse birch
you just light ye
royal vortex
this is so lame
ripe quest
i think the lights are just higher dps
The light spam is better than the Mk IV's light spam due to being all sweeps. It's also a Chainsword so that shit is baller for no reason.
polar nexus
ripe quest
for what?
royal vortex
p much every armor type it looks like
ripe quest
Are you comparing Mk IV and XIIIg or are you comparing combos in general on the XIIIg
royal vortex
comparing the combos
this could use some work
i like the idea of the h1 l2 and l1 h2 loops but they have the same rewards which is weird
sorry l1 h2 does not loop on itself it does weird stuff
ripe quest
why would you loop H1 L2 or L1 H2 instead of just H1 H2 bc
the first two heavies will hit better BPs
royal vortex
faster on a lot of targets
hushed knoll
Exhillious hi
coarse birch
You are not cent socks
thats what you named me
hushed knoll
thats what you named me
You are not
royal vortex
why would you loop H1 L2 or L1 H2 instead of just H1 H2 bc
also some of these animations correspond very heavily to a certain combo which gives me the impression they're designed so that you at least have a reason to do them but the numbers aren't tuned super welll atm
the l2 at least gets some boosted finesse but it's an almost inconsequential damage bump
ripe quest
The L2 is also just worse for ST than the L1
royal vortex
yea because it's a lame as fuck sweep profile
ripe quest
the L1 and L2 have the same sweep profile
sharp zodiac
Oh the shards do exist
ripe quest
it's just the L2 has lower first target
ripe quest
they have the same profiles, just the L2 has lower first target and yeah the higher cleave. Then the L3 and L4 continue to have the same sweep profiles but the first target is even lower than the L2
which is goofy because the H1 and H2 have 0 cleave
royal vortex
the l2 should be converted to have an identical profile to the l1 with a higher finesse because uppercut if they want it to be like the single target chainsword
ripe quest
so you're forced to at least L3 before using H3
royal vortex
i like the idea of competing single target combos but i think that becomes a headache to make work
ripe quest
The ideal ST combos on the thing should just be H1 H2 L3 imo
royal vortex
nah
they gave it an uppercut
the uppercut needs to be worthwhile to not just be a wasted move
ripe quest
it's for the horde clear combo idk man
sharp zodiac
And so it begins again
ripe quest
Maybe they move the uppercut? They shouldn't gimp the H1 H2.
If you remove the main defining feature of the base combos you ruin the weapon so I think it'd be better to play with the H1 H2 for ST.
royal vortex
nothing i said gimps it i just want them to make the damage profile on the light more sensible
the 13g should be more awkward for horde clear than the 4 otherwise the distinction just becomes kinda pointless
ripe quest
nothing i said gimps it i just want them to make the damage profile on the light...
Then the ideal ST combo should be H1 H2 leading, moving the overhead to the L3 would work w/ it. Could also make the uppercut a PA so it's H1 H2 PA or L1 PA for ST combos.
royal vortex
no i would much rather them make the moveset they have do interesting stuff depending on what combo u choose
like u could give the l2 a cara adm bump like the crusher push attack
this weapon feels almost cool from a thematic point but there's a bunch of stuff here u can do that's totally pointless
ripe quest
ok so do you want to gimp the H1 H2 or do you not? I don't understand your perspective regarding them.
royal vortex
the push attack being an enabler for sweep combos is also a lot more interesting to me because a ton of weapons in this game have single target pusha ttacks
royal vortex
ok so do you want to gimp the H1 H2 or do you not? I don't understand your persp...
i want them to make l2 a similar strikedown to the l1 so its a bit more awkward to horde clear than just mash lights
the big problem i have is with the l2
rn the ideal single target combo is just mash button
coarse birch
ayo fuck voidstrike
royal vortex
it would be nice if this thing had somewhat different "ideal" combos depending on adm
coarse birch
it would be nice if this thing had somewhat different "ideal" combos depending o...
yeah its really spammy
it does its job very nicely though
which is why i take it
mostly just crowd control is really good on it, and it can one shot muties and stuff
royal vortex
it's a cool weapon for shred at least because u get decent crit damage out of it
coarse birch
yeah im running shred wrath
ripe quest
god that's just reminds me of the Reginald video
apparently that data suggests that shred + wrath on the chainswords is ideal for a fodder test when that's just wrong
fleet zealot
i'd imagine for fodder it is better
but like
fodder doesn't matter for 99% of weapons
it's like heavysword
rampage is better vs fodder, but deathblow lets you one shot 4 elites in one swing
which one is more valuable?
ripe quest
No that's not what I mean, it was a dedicated fodder test and Shred Wrath was supposedly the best for that test.
polar nexus
apparently that data suggests that shred + wrath on the chainswords is ideal for...
It's better for chastise spamming?
Maybe if you spam chastise every 3s...
ripe quest
I'm fairly sure that fury spam wasn't being used for that test.
There was a dedicated section for stuff like that iirc
minor sage
shred is actually pretty good lol
esp now that stacks are super easy to maintain
it also keeps parity with wrath
since iirc rampage won't activate until your 3rd hit on chsword
due to needing to stack up wrath
ripe quest
how many times do I need to say it was a fodder test
oml
on both Chainswords you proc Rampage on the 2nd light, on the Mk IV the first heavy which is the main crowd clear combo for it.
The benefits of Shred aren't outpacing +36% power against fodder, esp in a test where you're clearing a large group of them.
I've never argued against Shred as a blessing, it's perfectly fine for usage due to the weapon being nice for crit builds + the armor crit mod on it but against fodder that isn't coming up.
which leads to why I'm frustrated with that particular part of the data set, because something is wrong with it. The numbers and other benchmarks do not line up with it.
Like, in the bruiser test, I'm sure Shred could compete w/ Rampage just due to Flak being present.
ripe quest
and to add that part of the data set led to the conclusion that the XIIIg Chainsword and the XV Evis are outright better than the Mk IV Chainsword and Mk II Evis in every way, which isn't at all how that lines up.
minor sage
iirc there was one type of enemy
ripe quest
Against bruisers no
ripe quest
you'd need Wrath or SS
Mk IV still procs Rampage and SS against Bruisers w/ a Heavy
but for lights 4.5 cleave isn't cutting it
steep hound
What're the meta perks/blessings for zealot revolver
Flak, maniac, hand cannon, crucian/surgical?
coarse birch
apparently that data suggests that shred + wrath on the chainswords is ideal for...
yeah i just got stuck with shred
works alright at least
little thicket
What're the meta perks/blessings for zealot revolver
Id say maniac, unarmored/carapace/crit chance. With blessings being surgical, handcannon
Unarmored is mainly for the dreg gunner bp
Carapace helps with crusher bps
Crit chance helps keep overall weapon bps.
steep hound
Id say maniac, unarmored/carapace/crit chance. With blessings being surgical, ha...
Nice ty
little thicket
Hmm actually i wonder if the unarmored statement is true
coarse birch
ok yeah @royal vortex you have single handedly made me like vet again damn
little thicket
Could you give me the weapons damage profile?
coarse birch
i did always like Mf
steep hound
Could you give me the weapons damage profile?
I have a bunch of possible rolls, so my question is more general purpose. Here's my current one tho
coarse birch
but i couldnt get it to feel quite right with vraks 7 and mk12 las
sharp zodiac
Hee hee hee haw
little thicket
Damage profile is in inspect weapon > attack breakdowns
Specifically the one that is interesting is the unarmored weak-spot.
steep hound
Damage profile is in inspect weapon > attack breakdowns
Oh I thought you meant weapon stats.
little thicket
Ye it narrowly misses the breakpoint with 25% perk
fading vale
I would do flak maniac ideally
flak helps maulers, ragers, some bodyshots, and makes it raw one shot some stuff without crit IIRC
little thicket
Meh ill go back to actually giving perks on veteran
I dont have enough resources yet to actually properly help zealots.
fading vale
I'd imagine vet doesn't benefit much from zarona perks
cause it already does so much damage
little thicket
It likely does.
fading vale
should kill pretty much anything in 1 shot, might be able to get away with cara/unyielding
little thicket
Im looking to eventually table everything
Its atleast better then the breakpoint calculator since it can actually factor in talents.
little thicket
which language
ripe quest
English.
little thicket
programming language
ripe quest
It's just in a spreadsheet
little thicket
ah
Yeah i wanted to do that initially for veteran
then i did some math on how many combinations they had in terms of damage numbers
And i said fuck that.
I belive it was 400 something combinations?
hard nexus
u guys are being smart
ripe quest
Oh I'm just running a set of checks to see what talents are active and if someone is ulting n whatnot, it runs the math and applies that to the damage.
hard nexus
and im confused
grizzled tusk
Spreadsheet can handle calculation - VT2 breakpoint calculator was quite complex. Of course programming it normally is easier, but consider reach.
Most people would have reservations about running fairly unknown program, but would use spreadsheet without second thought.
sharp zodiac
Some math nerd shit
grizzled tusk
Unless you are coding it as webapp and hosting somewhere.
little thicket
I dont need it beyond its initial use anyways.
hard nexus
Spreadsheet can handle calculation - VT2 breakpoint calculator was quite complex...
i love running unknown programs
its my favorite pasttime actually
i also like to inject various needles i find in new york alleyways
little thicket
Im just looking to compile the best perks for each weapon.
Once thats done the program has done its task, can be retired.
Plus in this case it wont have any human errors.
drowsy steppe
Send it to the retirement home
hard nexus
send it to the great computer in the sky
little thicket
Send it to the retirement home
BACK IN MY DAY I USED TO DO THE BREAKPOINTS FOR EVERY WEAPON.
grizzled tusk
Ok, I thought it was maybe something developed with sharing in mind
little thicket
AH THOSE WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS
polar nexus
ok yeah <@445566734255259648> you have single handedly made me like vet again da...
what did he do?
grizzled tusk
Tbf you could also throw it on the hub as open source, that would alleviate a lot of concerns. Theoretically. I wonder how many people actually check the code though...
polar nexus
care to share?
coarse birch
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b50f775-d716-4a8e-ac1f-71127ad6c781/jo...
^
i dont run this exact one
but same idea
hard nexus
thug coal is josho?!??!?!
i didnt think he was still in the server
he changes his damn name so often lmao
tropic harbor
Bro Josho died
coarse birch
most people in zealot chat get name changes from stan
fleet zealot
I need a new stan name still
royal vortex
im so sad they made take a swing do nothing
royal vortex
they broke it
coarse birch
most recent patch?
royal vortex
yes
coarse birch
skele was just talking about how much he likes it lol
ah
ok that makes sense
that is sad
royal vortex
mk7 shovel has the same single target combo as a mk4 chainsword
push attack light light
royal vortex
2 sweeps into 2 strikedowns
the 7 is cool i think the 3 is too monodimensional atm
the selling point on the 3 is the significantly faster pullout animation on the fold attacks and the overhead heavy
so it really leans into stapling dudes but the moveset could use some work
since the push attack on it is just the lame sweep light profile
coarse birch
the shovels are neat but they fall into such a specific category that i rarely feel like i need to bring them
royal vortex
its a specific brand of weirdness
the fold is p cool
the 7 i think has a p cool moveset but thats mostly because u can do some push attack single target stuff
coarse birch
the fold is neat i just get sad when mixed groups of shit pull up
royal vortex
since the longer pullout time on the heavies makes u get creative
i find its a nice emergency mutant deletion button
obvs u cant really use it on ragers
coarse birch
yeah
like one
even if you can fold light them for the really quick release its not enough cause ragers are just not really able to be interacted with in groups like that
unless you shout first or something
royal vortex
if only ragers were an enemy designed to be engaged in melee
coarse birch
big fan of the melee enemy designed to not be interacted with in melee 99% of the time
and if you can its like
spiral anvil
They are if you use a crusher (lol)
coarse birch
oh i just stagger them all to death lol
royal vortex
tbf crusher engages with melee enemies by literally just shutting them off
coarse birch
and they dont play the game
yeah the weapons that can interact with ragers in melee can only do it cause ragers cant fight you
spiral anvil
Yea, in my head they should have timed blocks or something in this game that stagger ragers out of their combos or smth
royal vortex
ive put myself in some mind-numbingly awful situations and gotten out because i was in a small corridor and could spam activated attacks on the 20 ragers trying to murder me
coarse birch
yeah the only thing about crusher that should prob be tuned down is the special
coarse birch
infinite stagger and cleave with that attack speed is a little nuts
royal vortex
god the bit when mankar was like "how can someone so intelligent exist within someone so stupid" killed me
spiral anvil
That's bringing a gun to a zealot knife fight
royal vortex
that shit was so funny
coarse birch
he was right
you understand this game on a very impressive level but at the same time playing with you is this half the time
https://streamable.com/dy8c5g
or cryonic ROD
or
ogryn hur durr i kill rager hehe
and then you top damage
royal vortex
mankar's reaction gets me every time
coarse birch
it was a pretty valid reaction
royal vortex
endgame dt is getting to the point where you mostly autopilot the game and just do stupid shit
north sedge
like the dipshit true duo
royal vortex
we went base jumping
coarse birch
yeah i do be autopiloting
royal vortex
it was very important
north sedge
me and arco had to duo cause they decided to base jump inside hab dreyko
ripe quest
endgame dt is getting to the point where you mostly autopilot the game and just ...
Darktide is nap time
royal vortex
we did come back (and mankar plugged in his controller)
north sedge
hd2 is hardcore, in that it's a 50/50 as to whether josho will think im a robot and dick cheney me
royal vortex
lmao
sometimes u just get caught up in the heat of the moment (i had already killed all the enemies on my screen)
north sedge
and i had been with you like, the whole time
royal vortex
i never know when you're gonna turn on me
coarse birch
wait how do you think someone is a robot
they have a name tag and dont look like a robot
royal vortex
i am
fucking stupid
i mistook someone for an npc in ready or not and shot them in the back
called it out
they said
"i've been killed"
and i did not register for about 10 seconds that the guy i just shot was in fact a human
coarse birch
ok tbf ive def shot teammates in ready or not
royal vortex
its how it be
dough is the unfortunate victim of my stupidity in helldivers very often
coarse birch
does dough deserve it
royal vortex
no
coarse birch
i feel like i havent heard stories of dough burstering and barelling you like i have mankar and arco
north sedge
the one time i burstered josho i got fucking taken out by a paid actor in the form of a sniper being in a nonsense place
and the funny thing about josho killing me in hd2 is its never strategems
always shot
royal vortex
coarse birch
wow that is unfort
coarse birch
that sniper was probably just moving and you happened to show up in front of it
royal vortex
the level of fucking skull trauma you would need to think bleed knife is anywhere near voidstrike
oh man
this dude's brain has been hydraulic pressed
north sedge
maybe they haven't played since week 1 of launch
bitter anvil
Smooth brain?
ripe quest
also I'm noticing that every reply that mentions aurics gets downvoted
north sedge
that sniper was probably just moving and you happened to show up in front of it
clearly a paid actor
waiting
bitter anvil
How
ripe quest
reddit is very touchy about auric
they can touch deez nuts
coarse birch
do you want reddit to touch deez
bitter anvil
Are they sensitive to high intensity modifier gameplay?
coarse birch
i mean given the opinions on there and general refusal to admit anything ever needs a nerf they are either hardstuck malice or bottom damage in auric
royal vortex
idk some ppl are in there complaining that reg damnation matches can be harder than auric because the game will spawn 15 gunners
ah yes
the run wipers
bitter anvil
i mean given the opinions on there and general refusal to admit anything ever ne...
That sound discord being elite high rank player
ripe quest
so the real question is do I start a thread about bleed knife with this guy or do I just downvote him
bitter anvil
Reddit with bunch casual
coarse birch
so the real question is do I start a thread about bleed knife with this guy or d...
its not worth
north sedge
ripe quest
or better, "bleed knife kekw"
north sedge
so the real question is do I start a thread about bleed knife with this guy or d...
i demand entertainment
ripe quest
I'm majorly tired and this looks like it'll die down when I wake up so I'll pass for now
coarse birch
a 2 year old with brain damage could walk through an auric by headbutting the keyboard with 2000ms input delay without a single thought going through their empty fucking head without taking damage
bleed knife on a good day does like 200k damage
north sedge
a 2 year old with brain damage could walk through an auric by headbutting the ke...
well yea that's how bleed knife makes it through
royal vortex
i watched a drunk guy with uncanny/exe and half the truelevel of a bleed knifer deal like double the bleed knifer's damage
it was so sad
ripe quest
yeah my Uncanny Executor VI has put out damage numbers that my Dough Special Mk III bleed knife couldn't even dream about
north sedge
i saw a pre13 vet more than double a bleed knife with vraks 7, and the bleed knife was shitting on the vet the entire time for bringing a bad weapon
tropic harbor
idk some ppl are in there complaining that reg damnation matches can be harder t...
Regular damnation can be harder because your teammates are more likely to suck.
north sedge
i saw a pre13 vet more than double a bleed knife with vraks 7, and the bleed kni...
anyway scoreboard would be too toxic
coarse birch
true
bleed knife players would realize they arent doing anything
except for 1% of the time
tropic harbor
i saw a pre13 vet more than double a bleed knife with vraks 7, and the bleed kni...
Typical bleed knife user
north sedge
at the end of the match i finally just told him the numbers and to shut it
coarse birch
lmao
rain wing
bleed knife players would realize they arent doing anything
what you mean. how else are we getting auric+
ripe quest
bleed knifers asking for auric+ because they see how absurdly well their teammates are doing in normal aurics and go "we need them to do more work"
coarse birch
surely if we get auric+ it will be hard enough bleed knifers get filtered out and realize bleed knife sucks right
surely
coarse birch
tbh i dont even care if people run bleed knife
rain wing
idk works for me
bleed knife moment
coarse birch
its just all of them think they are like the top 1%
ripe quest
surely if we get auric+ it will be hard enough bleed knifers get filtered out an...
Not even Fatshark could tell them directly that bleed knife is bad
coarse birch
and refuse to hear that uncanny is better
ripe quest
or even that uncanny buffs their bleed numbers by a shitload
coarse birch
yeah more bleed = more damage
royal vortex
TRUE
north sedge
this is the sound josho will make when his vocal chords finally give out
ripe quest
this is the sound josho will make when his vocal chords finally give out
Just the sound of dust getting scraped out of his throat
coarse birch
maybe if they make the lights on the knife slow af people will stop using it to spam bleed
royal vortex
delete knife lights besides the l3 on the mk3
north sedge
maybe if they make the lights on the knife slow af people will stop using it to ...
nothing will stop them
ripe quest
the lights are so shit dude they could actually just make the lights fucking punches
coarse birch
yeah the lights do like actually nothing
royal vortex
give the lights 16.5 cleave and make them able to stagger ragers
polar nexus
grive wrath to knife
ripe quest
unironically make the lights a bash w/ the bottom of the handle
polar nexus
let's enjoy lacerate wrath
coarse birch
that sounds oddly fun
ripe quest
at least 1 bash
obsidian prairie
Knife lights become punches but you toss the knife in the air at the beginning of the combo
ripe quest
I want a combo that's just bash bash punch bash or smth
obsidian prairie
and grab it as part of the heavy windup animation if you chain in from a light
coarse birch
yeah let me beat the shit out of a rager (i didnt stagger it and got staggered by the combo and died)
also josho i got one void psyker using MF bolter and my hate has increased by 500% for void
royal vortex
lmao
coarse birch
i still did fine it was just
actually so mindnumbing to watch them kill all the dudes i was trying to kill with one void ball
royal vortex
😔
coarse birch
i hereby retire from void until it is made into a weapon a brick couldnt use
polar nexus
imagine being a plasma user with 2 voids in the team: they do not need to reloadT_T
royal vortex
void is just funny. entire rooms disappear in seconds
fading vale
what if instead it took 11 hammer normal heavies to kill a rager
coarse birch
yeah it probably just shouldnt have a blast radius
it doesnt even matter now
cause its not exploding mid horde super often now
its cleave isnt 6 (depending on server lag)
fading vale
according to the calc it's cleave is 10
but also surge exists so you double fire a lot
coarse birch
yeah i was gonna say surge probably impacts my perception
north sedge
The only cleave that impacts my perception is when josho cleaves my skull in twain with a shotgun
coarse birch
maybe i wont play helldivers with josho damn
coarse birch
it sounds like there has been a concerning amount
royal vortex
two
north sedge
It will not affect your place in the republican party for sure
What's funny about them is both times there was just nothing going on
And i was shot not blown up
south folio
"accidents"
royal vortex
one of them was intended for mittins
coarse birch
well josho is special
royal vortex
wh
coarse birch
gotta cut him a little slack
coarse birch
need i reference the granola
im never announcing that im opening a bag around you guys now its asking for trouble
royal vortex
mankar is a fucking prick
coarse birch
i will admit him putting it in 2 chats was fucked up
royal vortex
i didnt understand how the bag works ok its not my fault
south folio
credibility in both zealot and psyker chat lost
royal vortex
let he who has not struggled with a bag cast the first stone
polar nexus
i didnt understand how the bag works ok its not my fault
there's a secret tech?
i always rip and tear
visual stream
Did they undo that huge burster shove range buff from a bit back?
Also did you know if a mutant drags you into a medicae station, a burster will not do damage while you're grabbed in the station
polar nexus
He was already jumping from what I can see
polar nexus
Also did you know if a mutant drags you into a medicae station, a burster will n...
Lol wut?
rocky marsh
mr josho
visual stream
You can shove them and they'll go backwards no matter how far in leap they are, it's just a matter of doing it for that backwards fall to make a difference in time
rocky marsh
are you ever going to upload full clip of your crusher round
visual stream
That just didn't shove at all
fading vale
there wasn't even a hitmarker
rocky marsh
hope mr josho reply 
fading vale
just chalk it up to some kind of bug
visual stream
Lol wut?
Pictured in the same clip, my first time that a mutant didn't have an audio cue
fading vale
is that post patch
fading vale
sadge
rigid trellis
silent bursters are still a thing too just not very common
polar nexus
You should try being bursted in a medicae to see if there's some kind of invulnerability
I had 2 yesterday
visual stream
I've been stuck in a medicae station a couple of months ago and I was immune to bursters then too
light holly
Did they undo that huge burster shove range buff from a bit back?
That was a buff?
I thought it was a bug
fading vale
nah that was part of how they "fixed" dogs and bursters
visual stream
I forgot if they did anything with bulwarks this patch and I don't think so but I'm going to use this opportunity to bitch about bulwarks anyway
rigid trellis
they nerfed bulwarks shield hitbox while they're staggered
visual stream
Peep how the hit after that hits his shield and it kills too
Gives blue marker and all
fading vale
tbf in the first hit he resets his shield and you are within the force field angle
light holly
nah that was part of how they "fixed" dogs and bursters
Well it's okay
visual stream
tbf in the first hit he resets his shield and you are within the force field ang...
I could understand that if his animation was a bit closer to being finished and if his shield wasn't a full 45 degrees to his left while I'm on his stark right
fading vale
I agree it's dumb but it's literally like a magical 180 degree forcefield
fair igloo
obv the bulwark was a psyker and started using kinetic deflection after his stamina ran out
visual stream
Shieldrat coding = copy-pasted 😎
fading vale
I got so upset when I tried VT2 and learned I couldn't poke their heads
visual stream
I got so upset when I tried VT2 and learned I couldn't poke their heads
This
fading vale
I was like oh its a bulwark.... sigh
visual stream
Even with a ranged weapon, especially a ranged weapon made me sad
So this man frame-perfect predicts the moment an actual firearm will hit him and parries it
light holly
I got so upset when I tried VT2 and learned I couldn't poke their heads
ahh, it's fair enouugh
visual stream
These rats are cracked ig
light holly
shields would be soooo useless in vt2
Because Storm vermin shields are preettyyy small
Gotta headcanon that they're like moving their shield to block it
fading vale
well I don't really know much about the general balance but regardless it feels bad
light holly
That's fair
fair igloo
u should just be considering urself lucky they aren't dark souls parry/riposteing u 🙏
visual stream
The alternative they settled on is having to bash them twice while the same guys behind him walk in front of him or hit you before you can get him
fading vale
when the things you think should happen visually don't line up with what happens it's just not the best design
visual stream
u should just be considering urself lucky they aren't dark souls parry/ripostein...
Caestus into that one knife from DS3 that was an instakill
rigid trellis
chaos dagger
visual stream
They hired one of the End Times writers to come code shield rats specifically and give them that sweet writer's plot armor
light holly
They hired one of the End Times writers to come code shield rats specifically an...
White fur magic
visual stream
Fuck yo frogs (slam dunks the crack moon)
still quartz
I got so upset when I tried VT2 and learned I couldn't poke their heads
Hit em with the Queen special
Push Push Light
Push Push Light
But yeah it's very annoying
Especially since they fuck with your cleaving in a horde
buoyant pecan
Hit em with the Queen special
Push Push Light
Push Push Light
excuse me
thats patented
you will hear from my lawyers
fair igloo
Does thy wrath be swift stop you from getting stunned when blocking an attack while out of stam?
zealous basin
guys
i feel bad playing this killer
this clip isnt nasty or anything im just legally obligated to always post a clip
south folio
Does thy wrath be swift stop you from getting stunned when blocking an attack wh...
nay
coarse birch
Does thy wrath be swift stop you from getting stunned when blocking an attack wh...
nah seperate mechanic
wintry osprey
man the shocking stuff penance is a bit grim, whenever theres a psyker in my lobby it just makes me feel like a dickhead having to lug round a flame thrower knowing ill hardly get to use it or even try my penance 💀
tulip valve
same
ripe quest
@royal vortex
lusty turtle
theres a comic about that
lusty turtle
you understand this game on a very impressive level but at the same time playing...
an insidious creature
inner cargo
I wanna know why people run Ius on Zealot
inner cargo
Ius autopistol yes
ember yew
People don't run it usually, it's one of the most weakest weapons right now.
There's some fake guides that state this as META weapon
so they got baited
ember yew
If you want a generalist weapon, however, Chastice of Wicked (Dash) makes almost any ranged weapon viable
true kindle
I wanna know why people run Ius on Zealot
used to be meta so maybe players who dont read patch notes lol
ember yew
Any Braced Autogun (Columnus 2, Graia 4, Agri 8), Columnus 5 Infantry Autogun, Laspistol MK2
true kindle
hasn't been good since october though
inner cargo
Oh yeah I run dash with tultosky mk 12(?)
ember yew
are all solid weapons
There's some other good ranged weapons, but they fall in certain niche
inner cargo
Any Braced Autogun (Columnus 2, Graia 4, Agri 8), Columnus 5 Infantry Autogun, L...
I should give Agri8 a chance again
The AK did get me through early game as vet
ember yew
i changed braced agri8 for columnus 2, its weaker in penetration in damage but
74 ammo mag vs 45
do wonders
i run like 200 games with agri8 though
inner cargo
I do wanna say agri8 might fit me more
inner cargo
I don't think I ever gonna use it outside of "pull out in a situation gun is actually a better idea"
inner cargo
Any words about tultosky 12?
ember yew
this can be sometimes really strong
inner cargo
I think it's 9
inner cargo
I could possibly rework my tultosky build
Since I basically picked it up with almost no game knowledge
But yeah heavy strikes go HARD
ember yew
nets me from 500 to 1mil+ damage depending how long the game is
for bosses and crushers if you are forced to use melee
you chain special attack + heavy nonstop if i remember correctly
havent run it in a month or so
inner cargo
you chain special attack + heavy nonstop if i remember correctly
Oh yeah I figured that out
My brain was like
ember yew
but in general for crushers you can just chastice + shoot them in the head if you want to
inner cargo
"Blocking to cancel the combos is kinda frustrating wait holy shit"
That's when I discovered heavy into special
zinc talon
ember yew
well early game in darktide is garbage tbh
i never leveled another character
if i could pass some weapons
inner cargo
I do have 5 characters
ember yew
would be nice, but otherwise nah
inner cargo
2 of which are psykers
ember yew
i bet sooner or later they will also allow cross-class weapon usage
but i don't expect it in like 2 years
inner cargo
If only they also made crafting system vermintide-like
ember yew
i mean rolling two(three) of the same weapons to use both on zealot and veteran
sometimes psyker (if we talk ranged for example)
is just kinda stupid
inner cargo
If only we could sell weapons to hadron for plasteel
umbral kindle
Kids these days and their damn screens
zinc talon
I run an orphanage for disabled and developmentally delayed weaponry
the Warphanage
we take in lost souls like this one here
but it's expensive to house and generally tolerate them
ember yew
at least the one above is a truly moving experience
zinc talon
send your tax deductible donation into Stabitat for Humanity today and help the universe be a little less intolerant, to abominations like these
inner cargo
I wanna know more about the eviscerators
I didn't like the first variant since it was kinda unsatisfiying to use
zinc talon
the new one auto revs on push attack
which'll stun through a heavy overhead attack after
lights are horizontal horde clear, heavies are overhead auto-revs
revving the new evis and light swinging will cleave horde
ripe quest
So the picks are still revolver and bolter ye?
Laspistol, Columnus/Agri IAG, Agri/Graia Brauto, Zarona Revolver, Boltgun, Flamer, and Shotgun.
zinc talon
and stick on any heavies that might be in the crowd
revving then heavy overhead'ing into a crowd can be real easy to miss, and you lose the time cost of setting up
but a rev light swing will cleave horde and sink into a special
the H1 overhead is the fastest swing from standstill, there're two others that take more time depending on which attack you're coming from
push attack auto-stab and block cancel bring it back to h1, with the least charge time to swing
inner cargo
lights are horizontal horde clear, heavies are overhead auto-revs
So it's closest to compare a executioner sword from vermintide?
ripe quest
Yeah that's what people say about the XV.
zinc talon
yeah, now that you mention it
haven't had an executioner in my hands in ages but rings the same bells
perking it for flak and carapace make it shine against maulers, crushers, and the twins fight
zinc talon
TUFFIST
gotta love it when you see those auric maels paying like, 84k if you pull it off
and just sinking into a group that aces it
oh hell wrong channel
well yall get it anyway
zinc talon
I dc'd there in the middle
fading vale
ah
zinc talon
fresh ink
if maybe that's a bit too small to read
not to worry
I got a matching design
rough galleon
The love we shit?
hushed knoll
Yeah that's what people say about the XV.
Exhillious hi
zinc talon
The love we shit?
yknow it's really hard to get a camera angle to confirm but pretty sure it's 'share'
which would explain why I have tats saying that above my belt line, front and back
yknow spelling all this out makes me want to go remove them right now
and take a shower afterwards
who modelled and textured this, and slipped it on through hee hee hee
fleet zealot
yknow it's really hard to get a camera angle to confirm but pretty sure it's 'sh...
It is, it is a repeated saying on Tattoos for this game
fading vale
Hi Laz <:blobwaver:542837222387482663>
ohio
zinc talon
on every single early and commissary pair of pants, it's entirelyalmost hidden
you'd almost never know it was there
thankfully fatshark just sold me this metal bikini
the TANKini
north sedge
Someone tried to spell kawaii and really just a swing and a miss
zinc talon
I was TRYNA say we're outta KY
fleet zealot
Bite
zinc talon
hushed knoll
Hi cent socks
lusty turtle
you talking to me or @coarse birch
steep flame
haughty bone
tropic harbor
I reached a milestone
It has been at least 1 week without being downed trying to charge multiple gunners actively shooting at me
visual stream
Did you stop or get better at it
hushed knoll
you talking to me or <@1117340723692445746>
You 😠😠😠😠😠😠
tropic harbor
Did you stop or get better at it
I’m not sure honestly because I have killed groups of five gunners. I think I mostly stopped
visual stream
I’m not sure honestly because I have killed groups of five gunners. I think I mo...
No... you must keep going 
true kindle
Hi zelchat
visual stream
true kindle
No. I'm not doing that.
violet hornet
My phone is just stupid
Didn't you get a new phone? Wasn't that supposed to fix something?
violet hornet
signal prism
Damn.
hushed knoll
Morrow is super hot
violet hornet
Well now I feel better about the face comment lol
violet hornet
