#zealot-class

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ember yew
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what is flat toughnes

dense field
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That was just 🤌

ember yew
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is it like

royal vortex
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are u fkin kidding me

ember yew
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flat earth

south folio
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WHA

dense field
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flat amount

south folio
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WHAT

ember yew
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and 460 people pressed like button

ember yew
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i hope he also promote flesh tearer lacerate

hushed knoll
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HELLO ARCO

solar gorge
south folio
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hi stan

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gmorning

hushed knoll
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You should capitalize the first letter of each of your sentences

south folio
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no

hushed knoll
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You failed the assignment

ember yew
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I hope in my dream Fire Grenade also will deal with Crushers

hushed knoll
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Also good morning

frank night
ember yew
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like it does for this guy

south folio
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because of you, i won't use oxford commas anymore

drifting wolf
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he thought it was his solemn duty to make a video over one of the comments posted in a previous video of his

hushed knoll
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Oxford

royal vortex
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the rare ohio comma

dense field
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Ohio commas are the worst

frank night
royal vortex
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when i regained my sense of self

ember yew
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@dense field"The tree above Loner is literally FFFin terrible"

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does this guy even play Zealot

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looks like Twitter content

dense field
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He's a vet player

ember yew
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oh

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so he's Call of Duty player

dense field
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ACTUALLY THAT EXPLAINS A LOT

hushed knoll
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I e

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I’ve

ember yew
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i dont call them vet players

hushed knoll
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Commas

ember yew
royal vortex
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i e i've commas

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stan if you fuck up more than one word in the sentence just rewrite it im not playing fucking text jenga to figure out what you mean

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it's obvious this time but most of the time it is not

frozen glen
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what is text jenga

solar gorge
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is that tanner guy in the disc

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i think you should ping him it would be funny

bitter anvil
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I wondering where is he

frozen glen
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mr tinberg

bitter anvil
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That his name?

dense field
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I believe he has his own server

solar gorge
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needs the bubble

frozen glen
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his name in this disc is tanner lindberg

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idk if he left or not

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some people in psyker chat like him

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like arco

solar gorge
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can't find it searching

bitter anvil
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He’s not exist

hushed knoll
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Rebders

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Rebders

south folio
hushed knoll
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šŸ˜’

south folio
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he's gone from the discord it seems

royal vortex
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three strikes you're out

hushed knoll
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Red why is you name so hard to say

frozen glen
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šŸ˜’

hushed knoll
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My phones typing scent scharfes your name to rebders

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Changed

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Changes

frozen glen
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rebers

bitter anvil
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Yeah seem tanner sprew something attention he left the server immediately

frozen glen
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i bet hes off to chase attention in hd2

royal vortex
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i ran out of stratagems to buy

hushed knoll
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Omg that was Terri me

royal vortex
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this is so sad

hushed knoll
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Terrible

bitter anvil
hushed knoll
frank night
royal vortex
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include binch

frank night
spare dome
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He probably isn't good enough to maintain momentum in two different titles. I know I'm not.

drifting wolf
spare dome
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It's only been two weeks and I feel like 50% of what I know about DarkTide has fallen out of my head.

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Also I would agree that there isn't enough going on in HD2 to really dedicate any kind of lasting content to.

spare dome
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for sooper earf

hot jolt
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hadron u dumbich

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y

safe tusk
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I am not convinced this isn't just rage bait

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I am so close to actually making a video just debunking literally everything in this video

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And so many vague statements

oak ermine
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do it

spare dome
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I would not waste my time.

frosty herald
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Ok

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Uhh

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I was about to get hit with a back attack

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But it straight up didnt hit

lusty turtle
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@royal vortex are you coconut crab viable?

coarse birch
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i voted no

south folio
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i voted no

safe tusk
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"+25% Coherency Toughness Regen is pretty decent"

frosty herald
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My skills havent gone away

spare dome
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The truth is that DarkTide is genuinely not that hard to figure out outside of some very niche and unstated interactions/tooltips. People aren't dumb because they listen to Tanner, they're dumb because they were already not putting in any work to learn.

frosty herald
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But i feel like hitboxes are MUCH tighter now

royal vortex
coarse birch
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wym they

south folio
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us?

royal vortex
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you and arco

frosty herald
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Also @royal vortex l1 mk6 powersword into activate into heavy is an unique attack

south folio
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this is skele's own question

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give the schizo the credit he deserves

royal vortex
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no it's not

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you just answered for him

coarse birch
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it is

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we had a vote

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but he came up with it

royal vortex
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what does that even mean???

south folio
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he posed a hypothetical, and we answered it

lusty turtle
royal vortex
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balance is not a factor for i would never harm a fellow crustacean

south folio
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how many coconut crabs could you engage in battle with at a time

royal vortex
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i mean uh

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a crustacean

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no fellow

safe tusk
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Scourge is best node in the game guys

south folio
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lads, we've found him

spare dome
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crab battle

lusty turtle
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crab alt

obtuse stirrup
frosty herald
lusty turtle
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basically josho

oak ermine
south folio
south folio
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i forgot that the mk6 didn't have a left-to-right diagonal overhead

safe tusk
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Another top tier one is:
Martyrdom is garbage

royal vortex
frosty herald
lusty turtle
lusty turtle
frosty herald
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so be wary that the hitbox is now a low sweep if you do it

coarse birch
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ok i did not say you had no skills

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i said i think i can name arcos skills

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and i wasnt sure what your skills would be

south folio
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thank u yoshi for killing josho in that hypothetical situation

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and preserving my life i guess

royal vortex
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have u seen what arco does when he's unsupervised

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u can't trust him

south folio
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me?

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what do you mean

frosty herald
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this activation attack will have hordeclear capability but you need to slightly angle it above

coarse birch
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arco can scavenge

south folio
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i am a model citizen

coarse birch
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hes very efficient at it

vast basin
south folio
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no it's not

coarse birch
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well arco wouldnt be unsupervised im there

royal vortex
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this is fucked up

south folio
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i'm pleasant to deal with

royal vortex
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why are u shooting either of us

south folio
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shoot josho and the problem's solved

frozen glen
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eat arcos remains

royal vortex
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on an island

coarse birch
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i had to shoot one of you

frosty herald
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Also

frozen glen
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and once you have consumed arcos corpse consume josho next

south folio
frosty herald
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I instantly loaded into the psykarium

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No loading times or anything

south folio
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yeah psykhanium loading was pretty fast

frosty herald
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They def did some work under the hood

coarse birch
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i would prefer to not shoot either

royal vortex
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who is forcing you

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?????

south folio
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his desire to eliminate problems in this world

lusty turtle
coarse birch
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its a hypothetical situation??? what fun would it be if i said neither

royal vortex
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just shoot skeleton lmao

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ez

spare dome
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id shoot josho as well

frosty herald
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Also is it just me

lusty turtle
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im not on the island AmeliaSMHHD

frosty herald
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But the game runs smoother also

frozen glen
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where are the excise vault damnations

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where are they

spare dome
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im sure arco knows enough math to create a raft out of a single bullet casing and joshos corpse

frozen glen
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someone ate all of them

frosty herald
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The only change was that they removed a wall

coarse birch
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it was arco

south folio
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that's true

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i could craft such a raft

frozen glen
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@south folio why have u eaten all of the excise vaults

south folio
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i am very useful in such situations

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give me josho's corpse and i'll show you right here and now

coarse birch
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can you craft a raft that can fit 2 people

spare dome
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lmao

coarse birch
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or am i dead

dense field
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*crickets*

south folio
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hmmm

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the dimensions of the raft are yet to be known until his corpse is brought here

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get on with it

frosty herald
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idunno what they did to the game but it feels so much better to play

royal vortex
frozen glen
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u took a break from the dt burnout

spare dome
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assume standard twink

frozen glen
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thats what happened

ripe quest
frosty herald
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i didnt really have a burnout

lusty turtle
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okay but josho theres an easy way to survive

frozen glen
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yea u did

frosty herald
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i just stopped after the twins dropped

lusty turtle
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convince yoshi you have island skills

royal vortex
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if i have to convince someone not to shoot me in cold blood they are not worth saving from the eternal damnation of hell

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im playing the long game

coarse birch
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no your not

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your dead

frozen glen
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his dead

south folio
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it's just that easy

coarse birch
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josho i dont want to shoot you but you simply arent making a good case atm

ripe quest
frozen glen
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is that harry radcliffe

north sedge
north sedge
royal vortex
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i cannot make a case at the same time

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i am coconut crab viable

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end of story

safe tusk
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Skissue.

coarse birch
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ok so you cant multi task

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bad start

frank night
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ski issue

royal vortex
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go fuck urself

south folio
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oh so this is how the discussion started
skele asked if i should get the medstation and i said it was 10m too far
and then he declared that i should be killed, but then pondered on the other great enemy (josho) and whether he should be killed instead

coarse birch
frozen glen
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did u guys know coconut crabs ate amelia earhart

drifting wolf
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they eat each other

south folio
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mittins stop smoking

lusty turtle
drifting wolf
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they also eat tinier crabs

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very cool animal

south folio
frosty herald
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well well well

south folio
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@ripe quest yoshi just said that he would shoot you

coarse birch
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this is so fucked up

south folio
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because he thinks you would hatch a plot to kill him

coarse birch
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i am being fucking slandered

lusty turtle
south folio
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skele, back me up

coarse birch
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nvm im shooting all of you then myself

frozen glen
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u only have 1 bullet

ripe quest
coarse birch
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see exhil gets it

obtuse stirrup
frozen glen
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all ace people eat humans

south folio
frozen glen
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that is how they make more ace people

south folio
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yoshi doesn't deserve the zarona

coarse birch
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you dont deserve rights

south folio
obtuse stirrup
south folio
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you are encased in 1 inch thick iron armour with no gaps that prevents you from doing so

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you must kill one of the other people

frozen glen
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the agri revolver has surgical and handcannon

south folio
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2 inch thick armour

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nice embed kid

lusty turtle
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sad

obtuse stirrup
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I shoot myself again for putting Surgical on an Agri

north sedge
south folio
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yoshi said he would shoot everyone in zealot chat
I propose we kill him and all get a piece of his body

frozen glen
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how u gonna speedload a gun that only has 1 bullet dough

ripe quest
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hmm

south folio
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nice skele rp

coarse birch
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arco are you trying to slander my good name

ripe quest
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It's like Excalibur

frozen glen
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skele rp: 🐊

ripe quest
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Who will embed the clip

lusty turtle
south folio
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true

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exhillious can you hit us with the amelia vtuber emojis

frozen glen
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watson vtuber emotes

ripe quest
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Also that surgical speedloader altercation was funny because multiple people clowned on surgical and my goto Agri setup is Surgical + Hand-Cannon to get it as close to the Zarona's performance as possible lol

ripe quest
coarse birch
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i mind surg less than speedloader

obtuse stirrup
ripe quest
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I only got GF2 emojies

south folio
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shame

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you're already an inferior person to me now

frozen glen
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i dont think anyone can be inferior to someone like u

ripe quest
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They can both run the same setup, Zarona will put out better numbers for it.

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I just like the speedloader, there's only so much Zarona reloading that I can go through before my brain implodes.

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Plus the performance is about the same for Crushers with that setup which is usually a main thing I bring a Revolver for.

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Lack of pen and lower damage for smaller elites though is annoying.

north sedge
lusty turtle
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@royal vortex yoshi has changed his mind and is now killing arco

ripe quest
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That was extremely funny yeah

frozen glen
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so imagine u guys were stuck on an island

ripe quest
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It was a convo about Crushers, you have Surgical, you're running a Revolver, and instead of Hand-Cannon you slap Speedloader on

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what

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on gods green earth

lusty turtle
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okay tbh

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i like speedloader

frozen glen
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no u dont

red pollen
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The true greatest joy of Darktide is when your entire team dies and you have to overcome impossible circumstances to clutch the mission while they all watch you assuming it’s over and when you pull it off someone just says ā€œsickā€ā€¦ auric maelstrom hi intensity sniper gauntlet ventilation purge.

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Just discovered the crusher yesterday when the skin dropped. Holy fuck that weapon is insane if you’ve learned how to compensate for weaknesses with your ranged weapon

ripe quest
# lusty turtle i like speedloader

You'd need to see the context, he came in swinging that a Revolver would solve my Crusher problems (my internet was obliterating my performance with ghost hits) and argued for it being great for them, then pulls out the Surgical Speedloader Agri

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I'm sure you can find a situation w/ a speedloader Revolver where it shines or smth but I don't think Crushers is that situation

red pollen
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Revolver is a solution for one crusher

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It’s a nice weapon for noobs to finally feel impactful solving a few problems they never could effectively solve before imo, picking specialists out of a crowd and dealing with one scary crusher

frosty herald
red pollen
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Abandoned it hundreds of hours ago

red pollen
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Got two clutches from that game

frosty herald
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what difficulty?

red pollen
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Auric maelstrom

frosty herald
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hmmm

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def out of his element

red pollen
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Second clutch I made sure to open the mission info to show the difficulty and modifiers

ripe quest
red pollen
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Sad thing is I can clutch auric maelstrom but I haven’t beaten hard mode Karnak twins. I’m on Xbox been playing since mid October and am at 987 wins

grizzled yacht
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What’s the best build for a toughness regen zealot

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Cause just discovered you regen toughness through melee

obtuse stirrup
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We got latecomer issues

ripe quest
hard nexus
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thats like

south folio
hard nexus
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the most basic thing LMAO

ripe quest
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Vicious Offering is also pretty potent but it depends on the weapon. Fury and Chorus are toughness heavy too.

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It's kinda free to come by unless you actively avoid it.

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DR and TDR sources will boost your effective toughness, and effective toughness regen as well.

ripe quest
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If you want to max that out for whatever reason you could probs just grab Martyr, a bunch of TDR and DR, and Second Wind.

frosty herald
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id reccomend just asking a few people here if they wanna play with yoou

ripe quest
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Run +Toughness curios for Tank Martyr.

south folio
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yeah second wind is an absolute primo talent

coarse birch
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@royal vortex arco was mean and laughed at me for getting memed by a cspawn in DT your safe now

south folio
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brb getting a clip of you being thrown off

coarse birch
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how did i know you had it

oak ermine
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Sometimes I do wonder if Zealot chat is almost always like this

north sedge
lusty turtle
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speaking of though experiments and stan

frosty herald
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were a very special but tight knit bunch

royal vortex
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the rhino

lusty turtle
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we decided stan was probably the most dangerous to have on the island and fed him to exhilious

south folio
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(skele gets cliffed after this clip)

bitter anvil
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I just fucking watched 54 minute video: half video is sound reasonable explain and the rest he make fun you being real Asian robot. Half video descent then rest idk what to say. Block efficiency and stamina curio with regen is his favorite.

lusty turtle
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actually fucked up

south folio
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the fear of seeing red exclamation marks next to everyone

bitter anvil
north sedge
frozen glen
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stan can spawn microwaved icecream on a deserted island

north sedge
lusty turtle
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this is why we killed him

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it was the only way

frozen glen
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holy shot an excise vault maelstrom

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i can finally check out the mid event

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u are better than this

frosty herald
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since when

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does force sword have uncanny

red pollen
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Been best in slot blessing since I started in October so at least since then

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Uncanny great on the V but absolutely insane on the mk IV

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Bully crushers without even powering up the sword ever

north sedge
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it always had uncanny, power blessings were just king, dunno what the state is currently

oak ermine
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Power blessings are still good on it, and Uncanny is just universally good damage against anything that isn’t Unarmoured/Infested

visual stream
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Psyker who uses a staff moaning about not being picked up instead of someone else, when we're already next to a respawn point

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Brah you lose nothing except for being able to move for like 20 seconds

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Bro had 4 wounds too but used the only medicae charge when others were on last down

coarse birch
south folio
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big L skill issue

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i've gotten trolled by that ledge multiple times

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but third time's the charm and i no longer am rumbled by it

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i wish it was like l4d2 where you could hold space to avoid holding onto a ledge

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so if you wanted to die, you could just run off of a cliff and hold space instead of ledging onto it

lusty turtle
south folio
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shush

civic basin
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can someone make an "average bolter fan" vs "laspistol enjoyer" soyjack meme?

hot jolt
south folio
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since the start i think

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i remember playing around them with psyker's staff bolt LMB

hot jolt
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its a candle u put out on first attack

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im literally a cat

coarse birch
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At least it ledged me otherwise it would have been your mutie clip again

south folio
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you bastard

dense field
ripe quest
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dude I just did a helldive run and my ass got 200 total enemies, 1 bile titan the entire time.

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wtf

dense field
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A sound reasonable explain that 2+2=5

ripe quest
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It just left everyone behind

south folio
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so sad

frozen glen
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this guy uses breaker

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point and laugh

ripe quest
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I use Dominator sometimes

frozen glen
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legally distinct bolter

ripe quest
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yessir

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I'm just waiting to get the Plasma Gun.

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I also want them to balance the secondaries because wtf are they doing over there

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Revolver has no reason to suck that bad

frozen glen
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its good against the automatons

dense field
frosty herald
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Also rip payday 3

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Somehow got an even worse playercount than darktide after launch

pliant palm
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They are hyping up the next update

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The hyped feature is a unready button

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I wish I was joking

oak ermine
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Darktide at least had and has an enjoyable gameplay loop

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I stick around precisely because it’s fun. There’s nothing exciting in grinding challenges in PD3

obtuse stirrup
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Long live Payday 2 I guess

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The superior heist bullshit shooter/awkward stealth hybrid

frosty herald
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It dropped down to 0 players this week

pliant palm
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Why did it take this long?
They were really proud of the challenge system

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Unironically they stood their ground on it and now it's being changed

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Funny stuff

frosty herald
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Being extemely stubborn and thinking the community doesnt know better

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Until now

oak ermine
pliant palm
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Exectly

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Words mean nothing now

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Actions do

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And they have yet to do smt

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Only talk

frosty herald
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One of the multitude of financial fuck ups starbreeze has done

ripe quest
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My friends and I played it, stayed for the movement tech, they patched the movement tech, my friends and I no longer play it.

pliant palm
frosty herald
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But payday 3 flopping this spectacularly does make the future of starbreeze uncertain

pliant palm
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They are also currently working on a 4 player coop game in the DnD IP

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So pd3 has a skeleton crew type of deal

oak ermine
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People definitely want the game to be good, but if it doesn’t meet even the most basic of expectations in terms of gameplay variety when compared to the previous title, that’s an issue

frosty herald
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The gameplay itself is good

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But the stuff surrounding it

sharp zodiac
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Who's asshole child is this

drifting wolf
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sentenced to the treadmill

pliant palm
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Anyway,
Zealot, fun class

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They should give zealot a baseball bat,
40k has those right?

sharp zodiac
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That's just the steel path circuit

frosty herald
pliant palm
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That works too

drifting wolf
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servoball using crushers as bats and servoskulls as the ball

hot jolt
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weapons mod should give us baseball bats instead of crusher

visual stream
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Payday 3 would've been really, really fun if the abilities were cooler than... "Health bags have 4 charges now", "Pick locks 20% faster"...

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There are like a few things that are actually distinct abilities and then that was the brink of their inspiration for abilities, so they just made stat filler instead

obtuse stirrup
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Opened up a whole set of new builds

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Speedy crime

frosty herald
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Im going to be honest

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Payday 3 isnt going to be saved

visual stream
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Unless they pour lots and lots and lots of money into it

frosty herald
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The game has bombed so hard and they waited so long to update it properly

visual stream
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Would be hard to see a return on such a huge investment

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The idea of acing things for more effects is cool

obtuse stirrup
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Fucking pity though

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I loved 2

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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But toning down the crazy was the wrong approach

visual stream
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I probably would've played for longer than a few hours if the medic build wasn't fucking useless beyond invincibility on revive

bitter anvil
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Nerfing is wrong in pd3?

obtuse stirrup
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Idk never actually played 3 but everything I heard sounded like a massive step back

ripe quest
visual stream
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Considering armor takes 10,000% more damage AND regens lost portions

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Like WHAT

obtuse stirrup
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Also wtf is all this inability to communicate if you want to go stealth or loud

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They're two totally different experiences but you just have to hope the 4 random people all have the same intent with it

visual stream
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Every time I played with randoms they kept restarting through stealth over and over instead of rolling with loud when we had decent progress

ripe quest
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Ironically there's a Roblox Payday clone that I'd consider better than 3. Pretty fleshed out when I played it a couple years ago.

drifting wolf
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i remember playing that one, went under a bunch of different names for some reason

ripe quest
drifting wolf
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think it's just called "Heist" now

ripe quest
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Like please god I just want to play a full mission

frosty herald
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You dont even have preplanning

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And everyone has 1 medkit ammo kit they can put into the map

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Instead of letting an experienced player put everything down

minor sage
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oh man

minor sage
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i dont think payday3 is saveable tbh

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isnt the player count at like 300 concurrent now

obtuse stirrup
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But I also wouldn't public stealth ever

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Awful idea lmao

oak ermine
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Steam probably indisputably makes up the majority of the player base

frosty herald
minor sage
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Yeah they basically removed all the aspects that ppl liked

oak ermine
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If SB won’t make PD3 like, free or almost free for several thousands of users on release of the Medic Bag thing, I don’t think people will be greatly interested in giving it another spin

frosty herald
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People are comparing payday 3's update cycle to HD2

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8 patches in 2 weeks

oak ermine
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Unless they genuinely rebuild the trash systems from ground-up, or at least halfway until the top.

frosty herald
#

Vs nothing for a month straight

minor sage
#

Yeah but pd3 is at its core a bad game

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I think that's the important part

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Whether at the core the game is fun or not

oak ermine
#

I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s a bad game, but the devs clearly haven’t learned from what made PD2 good

frozen glen
#

payday 3 walked so helldivers 2 could run

frosty herald
#

Very very true

oak ermine
#

How do you make the skill system more streamlined and less interesting than that of PD2 is beyond me whatthefuck_heresy

#

Darktide also did that, but FS basically taped that old skill system as a band-aid solution, possibly carried over from VT2, and it took them almost a year to implement what they truly wanted

minor sage
#

oo

#

suicide squad numbers

frosty herald
#

Darktide is actualy fun to play

minor sage
#

have dropped down

frosty herald
#

Post em

minor sage
#

pretty low LOL

#

ye i think in this market

#

games cannot survive without being good

frosty herald
#

Post the numbers of suicide squad smh

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I wanna chuckle

minor sage
#

it's at like 600~ now

oak ermine
# minor sage ye but the core game is good.

The gunplay is genuinely brilliant. It’s fairly generic, but it has enough complexity to be at least a sidegrade to what PDTH or PD2 offered

(unless you have meant the DT’s core game šŸ’€)

obtuse stirrup
solar gorge
#

so close yet so far

obtuse stirrup
#

FIFA could shit out the same game every year with more predatory microtransaction bullshit

#

As they do

frosty herald
#

British teens play fifa

minor sage
#

i'm not completely sure about that tbh

obtuse stirrup
#

And people would line up to inject that shit straight into their veins

minor sage
#

i had casual gamer friends

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who played fifa and nba games

solar gorge
minor sage
#

and they forced me to play with them occasionally

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and the actually game was decent

#

like how it played and stuff

fading vale
#

what if games were just fun like helldivers

solar gorge
#

impossible

minor sage
#

helldivers starting to wear on me though sadly

obtuse stirrup
frosty herald
#

I already know im going to have the time of my life playing dragons dogma 2

#

Even if its just exploring and walking around

minor sage
#

the game itself is a bit too casual and the gameplay loops are repetitive

fading vale
#

I mean I would expect helldivers to wear a bit especially if you don't have friends to play with

minor sage
#

so hoping they expand on those in future updates

solar gorge
#

DD2 will wait a year

fading vale
#

but they are supposedly adding a lot of new content

solar gorge
#

this year shall belong to the elden ring dlc

frosty herald
#

Mechs and vehicles

#

Lambda my brother

drifting wolf
obtuse stirrup
#

I mean I'm getting Dawntrail and tbh Endwalker's been the weakest expansion for me so far

drifting wolf
#

just haven't been playing much

fading vale
#

and we should get another faction or two over time I think

obtuse stirrup
#

Might be down to me though

frosty herald
#

Dd2 comes out 2 months before shadow of the erdtree

solar gorge
#

don't care

minor sage
#

the core gameplay loop is just starting to slightly get boring

solar gorge
#

i'm already playing shadow of the erdtree in my head rn

minor sage
#

i think they'll need to add more modifiers and more ways to ramp up difficulty and add variety

fading vale
#

we just been fucking around in 4s with a group of folks including stan and josho and it doesn't seem to lose the charm of it

minor sage
#

ye

fading vale
#

on diff 7-9 of course not 4

minor sage
#

that's what I'm saying

#

it's a very casual game

solar gorge
#

ain't nothing wrong with that

frosty herald
#

Dd2 will be the rpg of the year

solar gorge
#

the lion people scare me

north sedge
#

not every game has to be super complicated

minor sage
#

i'm not asking for it to be super complicated lol

frosty herald
#

Agreed

minor sage
#

just saying that the gameplay loop at the high ends

frosty herald
#

We should add tekken inputs at terminals

minor sage
#

doesn't have a whole lot to it

frosty herald
#

To extract you have to perfectly execute brian's 10 hit combo string

solar gorge
#

osu levels on max difficulty to send 1 stratagem should fix that

fading vale
#

yeah I mean if you are just playing like - avoid all the enemies and efficiently run etc then it could get boring so fuck that tbh

#

folks were medal farming exterminates and I was just like

#

naw

solar gorge
#

you either shoot everything on sight or you ain't free

fading vale
#

oh I need to play more deep rock survivors

frosty herald
#

Those planets wont liberate themselves

solar gorge
#

time to kill 80 scientists to rescue 40

ripe quest
fading vale
#

I don't like that the optimal way to fight automatons is to just... avoid

#

I mean bugs too tbh

#

but whatever I make them go boom

median steeple
#

Extreme is the best difficulty to have fun it but suicide and impossible are easy enough to do for medals

north sedge
#

i simply try to save john connor so that he may lead the resistance in the future

median steeple
#

Helldive is not worth the trouble

ripe quest
#

If you have enough kill power you can just obliterate them regardless

#

Helldive isn't really much harder than T8 imo

fading vale
#

until stan agros half the maps automatons

ripe quest
#

and you get that +250% bonus

north sedge
#

the correct difficulty to play on is where you have fun

ripe quest
#

mhm

minor sage
#

250% bonus is insane

#

and you get more pink mats

frozen glen
#

u get 6

fading vale
#

I just need common samples

north sedge
#

(i am also lvl 50 and have all the unlocks outside a few medal cosmetics, lol)

ripe quest
#

Yeah you just get like 1-2 more pink

minor sage
#

but ye main bottleneck is green

north sedge
#

but i did not play to farm or anything, just the fun of it

fading vale
#

some of the gun and armor mechanics in this game

#

are way more complex than you would think

#

pretty interesting

median steeple
#

Help my rare samples are 234 again and I only have 20 common

#

What is this

ripe quest
#

Plasteel and Diamantine all over again.

fading vale
#

plasteel gaming

north sedge
#

i have hit the common samples cap

red pollen
#

checks zealot tide an hour later to see if they’re done talking about hell divers
Ah, now payday

fading vale
#

I can't wait til more weapons are viable too

#

like the laser cannon is so sad

median steeple
#

I almost have all ship upgrades and man the bridge isn't worth it

fading vale
#

and the laser rifle

north sedge
#

i hope you can still accidentally step on teammates in the mech

frozen glen
#

u definitely can

obtuse stirrup
fading vale
#

I will chase stan across the map

median steeple
#

I really hope the liberator pen gets buffed

minor sage
#

so gl

red pollen
#

Petition to make a other games channel in the Darktide discord

minor sage
#

lololol

north sedge
#

no

visual stream
#

no

ripe quest
#

Well, I think the main bottleneck of the Laser Cannon is the lack of a high pen small arm. It'll do really nice light and medium armor damage, but you're stratagem reliant on bigger enemies.

fading vale
#

no

frozen glen
#

laser cannon is sad

visual stream
#

Killing the discord community speedrun if they enforce that

fading vale
#

where's the laser turret

minor sage
frozen glen
#

with the automatons

minor sage
#

lolol

red pollen
#

Can anyone point me in the direction of the Darktide discord

visual stream
#

Right here

spare dome
median steeple
#

medium armor pen sounds cool on paper but not a whole lot of enemies have it and weapons that do have that pen have lower dmg

ripe quest
visual stream
#

Literally say whatever you want about Darktide and people will still respond

fading vale
#

you can talk DT and ask questions and people will respond with good information

#

what more do you want

frozen glen
#

exhil that was not a follow up

#

i do not type that slowly

median steeple
north sedge
#

if you have questions, ask them. otherwise this chat will naturally flow to other topics, because that's how conversation works

ripe quest
frozen glen
#

exhil

#

it wasnt a follow up

north sedge
#

we do not exist to fill your dt talk needs

ripe quest
median steeple
#

aight time to finish my current ER build for the DLC

frozen glen
#

im shooting u first on the island

spare dome
#

and yea i just roll diff7 all day

#

HD1 was the same, difficulty doesn't really scale up all that well when your answer is a mass destruction event

#

enemy numbers sort of become irrelevant

north sedge
fading vale
#

7s seem like a solid difficulty

median steeple
#

so

spare dome
#

i assume they have other enemies to introduce still because there's plenty left from HD1 that hasn't been brought over

median steeple
#

Ironhelm is the best weapon in the game

spare dome
#

(but if the automatons get dogs again i will CRY)

south folio
#

why don't get we back to the good stuff like hypotheticals involving being stranded on an island

red pollen
south folio
#

get this helldiver shit out of here

north sedge
fading vale
#

ironhelm is fake hammer

spare dome
#

look we all want to shoot josho but we have to get to that conversation more elegantly

fading vale
#

crucis is the real hammer

median steeple
#

I am doing a darkmoon greatsword build

south folio
visual stream
#

Have fun squeaky toying the hordes all you like

ripe quest
# minor sage it's also just shit

If you look at the extreme notes that some of the other support weapons can hit I can see what you mean but it's performance is pretty good for what it does. Probs could do with like, high pen on its own because if you take one you're not doing shit to Chargers, Bile Titans, and Vehicles.

spare dome
#

yea the las weapons are like

#

fine

red pollen
#

Piety, crucis, bleed talent. Bye hordes, infinite fury of the faithful spam, infinite toughness, still two shot monstrosities and one shot crushers

spare dome
#

they do need a bit extra tho

median steeple
#

at this point I'm waiting for shit to get buffed before doing more helldives

#

since railgun/shield is so boring

fading vale
spare dome
#

ammo is not so scarce that the benefit of a potentially bottomless weapon needs to be kept in line

ripe quest
#

I personally like the Scythe since it's a laser weapon that doesn't lock that high pen stuff out of your loadout.

red pollen
#

Ironhelm, sacrifice range and moveset to compensate for a skill issue in checks notes kill chaff

ripe quest
#

But it feels like a long range focused weapon

visual stream
#

Not calling it chastise, opinion discarded

minor sage
spare dome
#

my only issue with scythe is that it has pretty average handling so i am stuck using the autopistol more than i'd like at times

minor sage
#

afaik there are like 3 total rn?

#

scramble, cd and

spare dome
#

and also no hitmarkers???

median steeple
#

soires

spare dome
#

pls give it hitmarkers

median steeple
#

spores

north sedge
#

weather effects

red pollen
fading vale
#

also crucis doesn't really one shot crushers anymore without chastise

visual stream
spare dome
red pollen
#

Piety for hordes, hammer doesn’t need help with anything else

spare dome
#

shit idk i think that is it

visual stream
#

The only BP that helm has to try more than crucis to hit is maulers atp

fading vale
#

piety does nothing for hordes

#

besides cooldown

median steeple
#

there is complex plotting, atmospheric spores, Anti Air, scramble,

#

and another I cant remember

#

the one that makes your shit miss

red pollen
#

Then you get near permanent 50% toughness damage reduction, the hordes all bleed when they fall on the ground and cooldown chastise in a single swing because you can hit everything on the screen

spare dome
#

oh yea the spores

red pollen
#

They die on the ground

spare dome
#

which only actually affects you when you select your first drop in lol

#

at mission select

fading vale
#

you do realize that 1 stack of bleed is like 0 damage right

ripe quest
north sedge
#

weather affects sight and in some cases weapons too

ripe quest
#

Heat nerfing laser weapons makes me so sad

fading vale
#

and crit is not going to increase your cleave damage

spare dome
#

well we wouldnt want lasers to be too strong now would we

#

... 😦

ripe quest
#

lmao

fading vale
#

also momentum buffs dodges which hammer loves

spare dome
#

everything loves buffed dodges

#

unless you unbound your dodge key or somethin

#

i am the first face tanking hardcore darktide player

fading vale
#

I mean it's more beneficial for hammer relative to other weapons but yeah

median steeple
#

Huh that ironhelm shit really did get the chat back on topic

#

Wbat

ripe quest
#

To go back to it I think Laser Cannon and Scythe are pretty close to being fine. It doesn't take much to hit the balance of unlimited ammo and damage.

red pollen
#

Didn’t say crit increases cleave damage but with piety you automatically take the uninterruptible talent, a heavy swing hits everything from one side of the screen to the other, and even if it can’t damage all of those enemies they still get bleed stacks, you still hit 20 enemies in a swing, got a completely free refund on chastise

median steeple
#

I really want some weapons to get dmg buffs

spare dome
#

i am of the strong opinion that they would be made immediately more accessible just for adding hitmarkers to it

#

i am always frustrated when i fire into a mass of bugs and im not really sure if im slightly off target or not

#

or if im slightly off a weakspot

fading vale
#

I do not tend to sit there and fight large hordes all the time on hammer, I be bonking everything

spare dome
#

there's just no feedback and there's some dumb spinny crosshair obstructing all my fucking vision

ripe quest
#

Also make certain weapons have enemy highlights in the sight

#

Would make my life so much easier if I could tell what's alive and what's not

spare dome
#

fucken freal

red pollen
#

Piety crucis has made monstrous specials auric maelstrom a cakewalk that I log in throughout the day just to see if it’s up, and do 300-400k boss damage per game while having absolutely zero issue making hordes cease to exist or ever even get close enough to touch me

frosty herald
#

If you hit a weakspot the crossair is orange

fading vale
#

you are definitely exaggerating or maybe playing slowly, but sure if it works for you

red pollen
#

Why do you think I’m definitely exaggerating

ripe quest
#

Am I insane or is 300-400k a bit low for an auric monstrous specials w/ a thammer

fading vale
#

I don't mean that number

#

I just mean in general

red pollen
#

The duality of the zealot class page

spare dome
#

i dont think any number is really 'low'

#

unless you're like

fading vale
#

and cause I've played the hammer for over 800 hours

spare dome
#

sub 200k after a full round

obtuse stirrup
#

Isn't Inexorable Judgement or Martyrdom the way to go with Crucis?

fading vale
#

momentum is best imo

spare dome
#

its super hard to get a read of where your damage was needed by just looking at an incomplete scorecard

fading vale
#

Marty works too

ripe quest
#

Buffed dodges is really nice w/ Judgement

north sedge
#

Crit is the worst pick for hammer easily

spare dome
#

wdym dont u wanna maximize that x1.2 finesse crit mod

ripe quest
#

I commented on the damage because I've seen scoreboards hit 900k boss damage w/ monstrous specials

red pollen
#

When I make a build and test it I ask myself what was the one weakness and what was overly strong for the build

fading vale
#

it's funny to press F and get your full cooldown back but that's about it

north sedge
#

Anyway back to helldivers 2 chat...

red pollen
#

Hammer needs zero help with elites or monsters, needed help with hordes

minor sage
#

the other issue is that laser weapons dont stun

spare dome
#

^^^

minor sage
#

so you're missing half your weakspots

spare dome
#

shit i forgot about that

minor sage
#

as you try to track

spare dome
#

cant interrupt the enemy while they call in either

#

now THAT will fuck you

fading vale
#

damage increase >>> crit for hordes

red pollen
#

Bleed and instant cooldown of chastise solved the one problem

fading vale
#

bleed does no damage that's irrelevant

fleet zealot
#

Bleed doesnt help with hordes

#

Especially half of them

ripe quest
#

90% sure an Ironhelm on it's own will outpace a Crucis with a crit build for fodder and bruisers.

spare dome
#

you're applying one stack of bleed on a weapon that takes over a second to swing its heavy at default lul

fleet zealot
#

With it’s low crit rate and low asf infested damage and low asf damage at 2 stacks

red pollen
#

Bleed gives you crit % which gives you crits which give you damage but more important it gives you back chastise lmao

obtuse stirrup
#

Surely Inexorable giving the attack speed along with the damage is the way

fleet zealot
fading vale
#

why are you sitting there smacking poxwalkers so much

spare dome
#

and da dodge

#

why focus on poxwalkers at all

#

they're trash

fleet zealot
#

And you go thrust+slaught or headtaker

red pollen
#

The only point is that when everything on screen is bleeding you get 30% crit from them, 50% damage reduction, which is beyond what martyrdom can offer, and your ult is always 100% available again and again and again and again and again

fleet zealot
#

Which your secondary blessing gives all the horde clear a crucis needs

#

Just spam heavies

spare dome
#

i mean spamming F is super cute and valid or whatever

#

but like legit

fleet zealot
#

With bleed for the emperor

spare dome
#

you only need to F every 10s generally

#

if you're actually taking persistent hits that you need that toughness back constantly

fleet zealot
#

Backstab cdr

spare dome
#

you have a different problem

ripe quest
fleet zealot
#

From momentum

fading vale
#

you also can't F spam versus the thing crucis wants to do most, bonk

fleet zealot
#

Is just better than crit on hammer

fading vale
#

the attack speed is super nice too

fleet zealot
#

You can hit trash from behind on a follow up hit/push attack

#

And get 20% cdr right there

#

That too, attack speed is one of the most important hammer stats

#

And crit build gives none

spare dome
#

hell if i really wanted to do crit hammer

#

i would take martyrdom

fading vale
#

attack speed also buffs the special

fleet zealot
#

If you want to run crit hammer just run a crit eviscerator instead

spare dome
#

higher persistent AS so you can actually start stacking that bleed without just ult spamming

#

better reliability

#

but god it still wouldnt be peak hammer lol

fleet zealot
#

Lower single target but can go rampage shred

red pollen
#

At one wound remaining that’s 30%

frosty herald
#

Hmm crit hammer

fleet zealot
frosty herald
#

I have a very good ironhelm laying around

fading vale
#

also they are eventually going to nerf crit CDR

fleet zealot
#

Hey guys crit must be good cause crits are cool so here is my crit chaxe build

spare dome
#

just like they'll eventually get rid of survivalist šŸ™ƒ

fleet zealot
#

I will not be accepting criticism and will argue and deny any evidence that maybe crit chaxe isnt that good

red pollen
#

Cute

fleet zealot
#

Anywyays

ripe quest
# red pollen How

You're spamming 25% damage and 20% attack speed, with crits. Martyr hits enough damage and attack speed to eclipse the buffed crit damage and attack speed, in addition to you still being able to grab crit CDR and spam ults. Latter principle also allows you to use Judgement and get higher damage.

fleet zealot
#

Hamme is a weapon that loves flat consistent bonuses

spare dome
#

you really only care to juice the special as much as possible

fading vale
#

damage buffs on lights are NODDERS

fleet zealot
#

I still think backstab cdr is better for hammer

spare dome
#

everything else you hit for BP's are a bonus

ripe quest
fading vale
#

backstab CDR does go hard on hammer

fleet zealot
#

It is very easy to get backstab hits when you are heavy spamming in a horde

fading vale
#

especially given you are now incentivized to backstab things like maulers or even ragers

spare dome
#

booty spank that pogryn to get refreshed

fleet zealot
#

Cause it is literally any kill from the back 180* of the enemy

red pollen
#

I said: I’ve run martyrdom hammer, momentum hammer, and then evaluated what was over strong in the build and what was lacking, and crit with the bleed on crit talent solved the problem

red pollen
#

And since doing that

ripe quest
#

If you wanted to max this theoretical build out you'd run an Ironhelm Thammer w/ crit CDR and Martyr and obliterate crowds, w/ Martyr you'd hit good BPs on bigger enemies.

fleet zealot
#

You simply see the red bleed effect

red pollen
#

I’ve trivialized auric maelstrom with the build

fleet zealot
#

And think it is helping

fading vale
#

oh there's the self report sentence, sigh

red pollen
#

I don’t take the bleed for the damage I take it for the crit chance to allow spamming chastise into crowds

fleet zealot
#

Unless you have some series of scoreboards and video evidence

frozen glen
#

hammer is garbage and u suck for using it use crit knife like a real man

visual stream
#

Critclaw like a man yesgryn

ripe quest
fleet zealot
#

Hammer is such a high damage weapon too lol

#

Bleed is counter intuitive

fading vale
#

idk about you but I'm not just sitting there smacking poxwalkers and trash constantly and taking 50 minutes per game

umbral kindle
#

Real man use bolter gun bash

fleet zealot
#

You are solving a problem that was already solved when you put headtaker/slaught as your secondary blessing

ripe quest
fleet zealot
#

And please say you dont tske crit chance perk

visual stream
fleet zealot
#

Or any related crit/weakspot perk

red pollen
sonic totem
#

Help me out boss, left hammer or right?

frozen glen
#

right

ripe quest
fading vale
#

crit IS DOING NOTHING FOR HORDE DAMAGE

fleet zealot
#

I actually practiced gun bashing poxbursters it was a good time

fleet zealot
fading vale
#

to 1 enemy

frozen glen
#

skullcrusher rampage dclaw is funny

fading vale
#

and then the curve falls off

ripe quest
fleet zealot
#

That you would get if you went the other side of the tree

fading vale
#

to basically 0 buff

ripe quest
#

it's like 15 and then scales to 8

frosty herald
red pollen
visual stream
#

The locked specialist makes the left one a bit meh though

red pollen
#

I said it’s giving cooldown and toughness damage reduction

frozen glen
#

do not listen to yam he does not play darktide

fading vale
#

your whole argument is crit shores up horde performance

frosty herald
#

Thats actualy true

fleet zealot
#

Okay i dont even see your hammer

nimble fiber
#

trur

frosty herald
#

You do your own thing and they dont like it

fleet zealot
#

You can get toughness DR from dodging that is more reliable

obtuse stirrup
#

Is Shroudfield Inexorable Crucis a good boss killer?

frosty herald
#

Yes

frozen glen
#

its the meme build

obtuse stirrup
#

Wanna try it

fleet zealot
frozen glen
#

for boss one shots

visual stream
open pollen
#

Oh no.

#

Someone should warn Luna

fading vale
#

specialist is dead though

fleet zealot
#

Specialist doenst help hammer

#

So right is >

fading vale
#

but left has larger bonks

visual stream
open pollen
fleet zealot
ripe quest
fleet zealot
#

Like exhillious might have the videos saved

ripe quest
#

which ones

fleet zealot
#

Of easy crucis combos to farm backstabs

frosty herald
#

Crit ironhelm does sound fun

fleet zealot
#

Vs trash

frozen glen
#

do not listen to exhil either he runs speedloader

ripe quest
fleet zealot
visual stream
fleet zealot
#

It would be you

south folio
#

crits and scourge don't do quite as well as you'd expect on hordes, and scourge is +2 bleed stacks on crit (and bleed decaying after 1.5 seconds)

fading vale
#

I mean hordes are hardly even a problem on hammer anymore either by default

fleet zealot
south folio
#

yeah and it's not like i'm itching for toughness and whatnot with a horde around

north sedge
fleet zealot
#

You get toughness on heavy attack kill

#

Which gives all the durability you need imo

fading vale
#

I take second wind

fleet zealot
#

Or second wind

#

Or anything else

red pollen
#

This is from January when I first ran the crit hammer build and didn’t even have a good hammer. I’ve been playing since October. I didn’t have that mod so I asked them how my stats are. From that day on I started hunting for monstrous special missions and refining the build now it’s 300-400k damage to bosses per game and no I’m not going slow I’m in the front non stop lol

north sedge
#

We've been playing since a year before October

frosty herald
#

Mans cant even enjoy playing with his crit hammer build

#

Kinda fucked up

fleet zealot
#

You cant reliably proc crit tdr

red pollen
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Yes and stuck in your old ways

south folio
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shame, i've only played since november

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what old ways

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we didn't have the skill tree back then

red pollen
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The ways before the skill tree

visual stream
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Zealot-class, this man has a different build, kill him

fleet zealot
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Crit toughness tdr is useless if you are eating bullets

red pollen
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So I’ve had the skill tree since the day it dropped and that’s the environment I’ve learned the game in

south folio
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the fundamentals of what are good have not been changed

visual stream
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If it works for you, cool, but there are indeed stat-wise better options

north sedge
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Lol

ripe quest
fading vale
south folio
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are you really using the fact that we've been playing longer as something against us

red pollen
north sedge
south folio
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yeah i'd hope you have that much with a thammer

fading vale
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hammer kills bosses, yes, we know

fleet zealot
red pollen
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And it was my first game with the crit hammer now hundreds of games later i

fleet zealot
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My krak vet and chaxe martyrdom

visual stream
fleet zealot
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Would both beat 300k

south folio
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have you considered that it's primarily the hammer and not the crit hammer

red pollen
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I’m at 992 wins now

north sedge
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Who cares about wins

fading vale
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congratulations

south folio
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is your argument just throwing out numbers randomly

signal prism
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Rookie numbers

visual stream
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Mods, pin this man's build and have him publicly flogged until vet tree is changed again

fleet zealot
red pollen
fleet zealot
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Your hammer is doing all the work crit is not helping

fading vale
fleet zealot
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Omg do you not use thrust?

red pollen
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Can someone explain why zealot Amelia is taking everything I say about my build personal

fleet zealot
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Post your hammer please

fleet zealot
red pollen
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K hold on.