but thats what youre doing as the killer in dbd
#zealot-class
drifting wolf
sterile stone
Sounds liek something a killer would say
maiden path
in a video game!
maiden path
i do not own a freezer
sterile stone
i do not own a freezer
sterile stone
You chose archer boots?
sterile stone
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
maiden path
i also use dis dredge skin
drifting wolf
the fog crawler
sterile stone
THOSE ARE 100% ARCHER BOOTS
sterile stone
i also use dis dredge skin
This ruined my sandwich
maiden path
this is it ingame
dredge and trapper are my favorit killers
the person with the ttv name wasnt fucking streaming
pissed me off
sterile stone
You're upset they weren't streaming?
maiden path
YES
i like to see waht people have to say about my killer gamepl;ay
it doesnt make sense unless u've played dbd
the last time i ran into people streaming it was 3 v-tubers
drifting wolf
what compelled the dbd devs to have a postgame chat added
sterile stone
the last time i ran into people streaming it was 3 v-tubers
From what I've seen of some dbd streamers
The community itself is a cesspit
maiden path
its not great
ive been told to kms like 3 times
on ps4 messager
which is like 10x harder to send a message on than posgame chat
drifting wolf
very well adjusted community
sterile stone
Don't have to deal with toxic players in Kenshi
maiden path
this is my favorite imagef
the act of getting hatemail at the same time as reading another is great
maiden path
WAIT
ripe quest
I'd be ok with it being really strong if other weapons in the same weapon genre actually competed.
maiden path
https://tenor.com/view/only-game-heff-be-mad-gif-5038541
I SNE THTAT TO A FRIEND
AND HE SENT THE EXCAT SAME THING
sterile stone
I'd be ok with it being really strong if other weapons in the same weapon genre ...
Some of the primaries need a buff
Like the breaker and plasma shouldn't be the only viable guns
ripe quest
Yeah that too
drifting wolf
what does the plasma do
sterile stone
Plasma is basically
ripe quest
The side arms need to be looked at in general.
sterile stone
Hey I shot you right
Well the shot gets deflected
The explosions from the shot when it makes contact tho?
Punches through your armor
So I can basically kill you via explosion splash dmg
Even tho the shot itself deflected off your armor
light holly
Like the breaker and plasma shouldn't be the only viable guns
I wiill say
The DMR that you get first isn't bad
Easily delete devestators
sterile stone
I will say this tho
The helldivers discord has made me realize
Alot of gamers have never actually used or fired a gun before.
fleet zealot
Alot of gamers have never actually used or fired a gun before.
this
sterile stone
Like mfs really said the shotgun has too much range
drifting wolf
the gamer grip just simply isn't strong enough to wield a shotgun
sterile stone
Like bruh
drifting wolf
LOL
sterile stone
Shotguns are OP IRL
fleet zealot
i cant say i've fired many guns and im def no gun nerd, but people get misled so much
shotgun is aim assist irl
vocal pulsar
if my job let me have a shotgun in my truck i'd bring it everyday
lusty turtle
Like mfs really said the shotgun has too much range
We used to get this a lot for DT aswell
Which is... funny given shotguns launch state
vocal pulsar
they still can
vocal pulsar
agri slug doesnt do as much damage as it should
sterile stone
Did they buff bolter?
light holly
agri slug doesnt do as much damage as it should
I think it's alright, snap headshots baboom
vocal pulsar
and the slug doesnt cleave at all, which it should
lusty turtle
Did they buff bolter?
No, its just never been bad
vocal pulsar
I think it's alright, snap headshots baboom
it's decent on vet
sterile stone
No, its just never been bad
light holly
and the slug doesnt cleave at all, which it should
now to be fair that's debatable
vocal pulsar
but if we are talking from a shotgun realism perspective, the slug should do more
sterile stone
I loved it, and I am in the camp that guns shouldn't be dependant on blessings
vocal pulsar
now to be fair that's debatable
im not asking it to cleave through 50 guys
i would like to see it cleave thru a poxwalker or two
to hit a trappere or something
sterile stone
But you can tell the hard difference between the stumble power dmg vs the change
royal vortex
bolter had a brief stint as being not that good in p13 before the buff
vocal pulsar
isntead of getting stuck o nthe first poxwalker
light holly
yeah that's fair
north sedge
the finesse got buffed on the bolter like patch 14ish
royal vortex
and then they buffed it in p14
lusty turtle
https://imgur.com/Ry76Owt
Genuinly ask josho, hes been bolter gaming (to the immense detriment to his mental health)
sterile stone
Does the bolter have more stumble now?
royal vortex
generally they just made the gun better and now u have stuff like marksman's focus
vocal pulsar
i want to see new weapon classes over more variants atm
lusty turtle
Crit bolter is the future crab wanted
coarse birch
yeah if you build for bolter its pretty cracked
spare dome
https://youtu.be/8e6UNbnkv8E?si=KlUzV4Q4-JrWQkso
whats not to like
light holly
I just love mag dumping bosses
coarse birch
josho does very well with it at least
sterile stone
i want to see new weapon classes over more variants atm
This too.
vocal pulsar
more than anyone, psyker needs new staves
lusty turtle
josho does very well with it at least
Ye as long as theres no pox walkers
fleet zealot
https://youtu.be/8e6UNbnkv8E?si=KlUzV4Q4-JrWQkso
whats not to like
yea but now i can't effortlessly kill 8+ crushers a mag with zealot
vocal pulsar
i hope that's top priority at fatshark
sterile stone
more than anyone, psyker needs new staves
Like what would they do tho?
coarse birch
yeah it is a no melee build
royal vortex
the funny part about bolter is the majority of your BPs are bodyshot
sterile stone
So the bolter is a crit weapon?
royal vortex
yes
vocal pulsar
Like what would they do tho?
for starters, they could port sienna's staves from vermintide. her staves are unique/different from all the staves currently in darktide atm iirc
royal vortex
surgical is 0.2s per stack at t4
so ur not wasting a huge amount of time with any setup stuff
sterile stone
Wasn't the bolter shit for crits prior to it's change?
royal vortex
it had some absolutely deranged crit adm values vs stuff like flak but crab got them to fix that
spare dome
it used to have bad finnesse period
royal vortex
and it has 1.0 finesse now
vocal pulsar
a shotgun and machine gun type staves would be cool
spare talon
hey peetah
royal vortex
instead of 0.5
sterile stone
for starters, they could port sienna's staves from vermintide. her staves are un...
I'm half expecting Psyker to get a summoner class like Sienna.
north sedge
hey peetah
Mine is the Comptroller of Family Values
sterile stone
I feel like necromancer was a test phase to see if it'd work in DT.
royal vortex
i am the elected representative of family values
fleet zealot
you can't necromancer things out of the ground/walls like sienna in vt2
sterile stone
But also, with Danktide being a live service game, I'm curious how they're gonna handle classes in the future.
spare dome
i was like shit aite
sterile stone
Cause the whole point of LS games is keeping it going as long as possible.
royal vortex
vocal pulsar
when a new class drops, i expect it to be a unique unit. not another variant of psyker. like skitarii or something
sterile stone
when a new class drops, i expect it to be a unique unit. not another variant of ...
I forgot the youtubers
royal vortex
if u really push it and aim like crab does itll do better than this
but i am not worthy
light holly
you can't necromancer things out of the ground/walls like sienna in vt2
This is why I can only think we're getting like, tech adept, summon servo skulls out of your ass
fleet zealot
ill eat a shoe if they release skitarii and not a tech adept
sterile stone
But I've seen several people predict the next class is gonna be a tech acolyte. This kinda falls in line with the unreleased portraits
light holly
ill eat a shoe if they release skitarii and not a tech adept
Ooh, tasty shoe I'll get some too
sterile stone
Releated to progression in the mechanicum
royal vortex
nobody has a good idea of what fatshark's next plan is
light holly
come on come ooonnn
royal vortex
we simply have to wait for Next Week™️
light holly
We're just gambling atm
sterile stone
Wait we're getting updaterino next week?
royal vortex
no idea
north sedge
but i am not worthy
Oh i dunno i feel like you could match this https://medal.tv/games/helldivers-2/clips/1VyysBtxDx07s_
royal vortex
Oh i dunno i feel like you could match this https://medal.tv/games/helldivers-2/...
now this
i can do
light holly
ow
lusty turtle
https://streamable.com/w0oesb
My brain was OFF in this clip, i saw you shooting and decided to the only way to keep the ragers in place was to throw my healthbar at them
drifting wolf
Oh i dunno i feel like you could match this https://medal.tv/games/helldivers-2/...
punch bugs into oblivion
royal vortex
My brain was OFF in this clip, i saw you shooting and decided to the only way to...
a supporter of the scoreboard chasing
ur sacrifice was not in vain
lusty turtle
ur sacrifice was not in vain
royal vortex
what happens when i have 1000 scoreboards in the list and i cant open it
fleet zealot
polar nexus
nobody has a good idea of what fatshark's next plan is
Vacation
ripe quest
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/281
This one is very goated. Any bit of info you could get you can grab with this.
The only cost is a like, 90% frame drop when you autosave.
polar nexus
When does it autosave?
sterile stone
Where's the anime ferret huh?
ripe quest
When does it autosave?
You can set it to whatever, 60 seconds by default
polar nexus
You can set it to whatever, 60 seconds by default
god but that will just destroy my framerate
sterile stone
What did I just watch
fleet zealot
What did I just watch
it's time to drink water
sterile stone
I have my bottle of volcano water rn
fleet zealot
I have my bottle of volcano water rn
I actually have no idea what they mean either
but they feel important
sterile stone
What even is that
fleet zealot
it's a plushed animal, looks like a slug to me
sterile stone
hmmm
drifting wolf
pou
fleet zealot
median steeple
Pouh
ripe quest
300 ping avg with Darktide is so not it
ripe quest
the little goth ferret
drowsy steppe
A what
ripe quest
@royal vortex It was like this the entire game bro
Actually unplayable
At least I can play ig 
median steeple
ripe quest
Crushers were an instant death kinda thing because I cannot dodge attacks if they're locked onto me
royal vortex
lmao f u get the shit i do ~2x a match but constantly
buoyant pecan
<@445566734255259648> It was like this the entire game bro
why does it.look like thos
buoyant pecan
why does it look like tomb raider on nintendo 64
junior vortex
Crushers what are those I play psyker.
junior vortex
Or use eviscerator
ripe quest
I was leveling friends on Heresy though, so I just brought a DClaw Revolver setup.
junior vortex
Revolver destroys them.
What do you mean you died against a crusher using a revolver.
coarse birch
<@445566734255259648> It was like this the entire game bro
F
junior vortex
I destroy crushers with that gun.
ripe quest
What do you mean you died against a crusher using a revolver.
It's kinda fucking hard to kill a Crusher with a gun that ghost hits every shot.
junior vortex
Try using the agripinaa and you won't have those problems
ripe quest
Bro thinks he's Darcy LMAO
coarse birch
queen is already close enough to darcy 😭
junior vortex
Because I fan the hammer and I kill them usually.
fading vale
agri revolver wow great suggestion, one of the worst guns
junior vortex
It's not though
junior vortex
You are using it incorrectly
coarse birch
far worse than zarona still
junior vortex
And?
fading vale
it's got a better funny factor but it's damage output is terrible
junior vortex
That makes it bad.
coarse birch
i did not say its bad
junior vortex
The damage output is fine.
When I use it destroys things just fine. The worst gun is the Las pistol
coarse birch
las pistol is very good wym
junior vortex
Barely does enough of anything
fading vale
what
ripe quest
Because I fan the hammer and I kill them usually.
Ok you're just ignoring the part where my issues don't lie at all with my build. I have like 300 avg ping nothing hits, I even have two videos right up there showing that. I'm not struggling to kill Crushers on HiStG let alone base Heresy lol, assuming I have decent internet.
fading vale
laspistol is at least twice an agri revolver
north sedge
idk works for me
coarse birch
Ok you're just ignoring the part where my issues don't lie at *all* with my buil...
have you tried bolter
junior vortex
Yeah sure agripinaa is good have you used the secondary fire.
fading vale
yeah it's pretty meh but it's funny
ripe quest
have you tried bolter
I'm probs just gonna use Flamer for it but my ults are delayed by a few minutes.
junior vortex
Maybe because the zarona is overtuned.
coarse birch
yeah flamer is actually your best bet prob
junior vortex
For a revolver.
I don't know about you but in damnation Agripinaa does fine. The semi-auto makes it good.
royal vortex
las pistol is probably overtuned even
the mk10 has fkin sideways mostly-visual recoil which is just deranged
ripe quest
You can make anything work fine in just base damn
royal vortex
the mk10's secret is that the way its recoil works makes a lot of ppl hate it
fading vale
it shouldn't get suppressed, it should have ads, blessings don't really fit that well as is, it's spread is annoying, kill 2 things with all 5 shots, miss too often at range, no cleave on it is annoying
coarse birch
mk10 can still put out funny damage
junior vortex
I demolish bosses with that revolver.
fading vale
requires piety to be even viable
coarse birch
most people just dislike the suppression/sway on it
fading vale
insert josho clip of giving up on that gun and just using throwing knives instead cause it can't kill ragers
junior vortex
It can though
I have killed ragers with it countless times and won missions using it and carried just fine.
royal vortex
insert josho clip of giving up on that gun and just using throwing knives instea...
tbf most guns are not clearing ragers like tknives will
junior vortex
I'm not gonna lie sounds like a skill issue not to be that person. And I barely kill ragers with them knives.
coarse birch
https://streamable.com/qta0u9
damn you really have played more zealot lately
junior vortex
They're fun but the revolver is more consistent killing them.
fading vale
you are like 1 of, actually maybe the only person, that likes that gun
vocal pulsar
I'm not gonna lie sounds like a skill issue not to be that person. And I barely ...
if you are referring to josho having a skill issue, you're absolutely wrong
josho is really good at the game
junior vortex
It's personal preference and I impressed people using my revolver.
fading vale
outside of the concept of fan
royal vortex
fading vale
which I agree the concept is fun
but it's performance is not up to par with nearly anything else
junior vortex
To use most guns you need a build around them.
fading vale
and it can't kill enough in hardest modes and is not multi faceted
royal vortex
the big problem here is that squeezing as much value as possible out of the agri revolver requires playing it in a way where you're basically just using a worse zarona
junior vortex
That's kinda the point.
fleet zealot
it would be nice if it could do somethign with trickshooter
coarse birch
agri revo at minimum will take more effort to get good reward out of which will make most people disregard it p much right away
royal vortex
what kind of point is "a different gun but worse"
coarse birch
it would be nice if it could do somethign with trickshooter
it can technically in 1/100 scenarios
royal vortex
agri revo at minimum will take more effort to get good reward out of which will ...
the kind of effort you have to put in is also genuinely not satisfying, at least in my experience, because i am fighting stupid mechanics to get it to do what i want
junior vortex
I mean not all weapons are supposed to be easy to get value out of.
fading vale
the blessings are clearly zarona blessings for the most part
you can be as good as you want on agri and it's value will never be better than mediocre
coarse birch
the kind of effort you have to put in is also genuinely not satisfying, at least...
i tried to again recently and didnt hate it but sometimes you do just get sway/suppression memed
and suddenly do not have a gun
royal vortex
i am all for stuff that is hard to use but rewarding if the difficulty is fair but then the agri has stupid shit like spread/sway you can't account for outside of exe stance deadshot veteran
junior vortex
I mean it's a side arm for a reason.
ripe quest
the kind of effort you have to put in is also genuinely not satisfying, at least...
I think the lack of an accurate shot is debilitating to the feel of the weapon.
coarse birch
yeah if it just didnt have the sway
junior vortex
If anything the Zarona does too much for a lousy pistol.
ripe quest
You can fix it w/ DoD or Vet but it's just kinda annoying otherwise.
royal vortex
I think the lack of an accurate shot is debilitating to the feel of the weapon.
i don't really care about the pen or damage it's just the fact that the gun feels like it should be better for horizontally spread out targets
and then it isn't
fading vale
by that standard laspistol also needs a notable nerf (which it probably does tbh)
royal vortex
because you can't really do the rdr2 deadeye thing where u drop like 4 guys in half a second
junior vortex
No it doesn't
fleet zealot
they should honestly if they want the stats to be worse they should just give the fan the hammer aimbot
coarse birch
yeah mk2 laspistol is overtuned
fleet zealot
like rdr2 or cassidy
fading vale
laspistol is insanely cracked idk what you have been using
junior vortex
The shotgun needs a buff.
fading vale
what
junior vortex
It's terrible
fleet zealot
which one lmao?
vocal pulsar
It's terrible
what
fading vale
shotguns are very good
fleet zealot
and no they aren't, that's the joke
coarse birch
shotguns are p good
nimble fiber
coarse birch
agri maybe could use some help
junior vortex
For the name Combat shotgun It's undertuned.
vocal pulsar
all the shotguns are really good
junior vortex
Kantrael
coarse birch
but it kills everything
fading vale
ok so far: agri revi is very good, shotguns and laspistol are bad.....
delicate shadow
kanty is literally the best shotty
north sedge
should have followed how Hunt handles it and makes hipfire the fanning and ads is normal aim
vocal pulsar
kantrael is arguably the best of the bunch, especially on zealot
coarse birch
id say fs kant is the best
junior vortex
The best out of worst guns range is important in darktide.
fading vale
kant is one of zealots best all around weapons
delicate shadow
tbh range is rarely important, there's not that many crazy sightlines and the only time you'll feel kneecapped on reach is if you're running a flamer or smth
shotguns all operate just fine for range
coarse birch
kant range only falls off it the target is comedically far
fading vale
even then shotguns have infinite effective range
coarse birch
damage wise
royal vortex
tbh range is rarely important, there's not that many crazy sightlines and the on...
there's actually a ton of sightlines you can use but the problem is nobody gives a fuck and you don't have to give a fuck most of the time
junior vortex
The ammo is terrible to even keep note of them, and the reload speed.
royal vortex
because ur so far out of the aggro range u can walk significantly closer
fading vale
the ammo is terrible?
junior vortex
It runs out of ammo way too fast.
coarse birch
theres a few maps where you have like actual ranged sight lines
fading vale
can't say I ever come close to running out of ammo on a shotgun
junior vortex
Even when used efficiently.
coarse birch
shotgun ammo isnt bad yeah
ig if you are using it alot
but given it like 2 shots most stuff
fleet zealot
Even when used efficiently.
you use it only when needed on zealot
coarse birch
the reload speed is slow but that is the trade off and you can cancel it at any point
fleet zealot
and it doesn't have an ammo problem on vet either
winged whale
fading vale
I use the kant all the damn time and just reload a bullet here and there constantly
no ammo issues
spiral anvil
Kant fire shotty infinite cleave is nothing to scoff at
fleet zealot
kant lawby great on zealot
fading vale
yeah not to mention the special is bonkers
vocal pulsar
The ammo is terrible to even keep note of them, and the reload speed.
what blessings are you running
fleet zealot
agri is okay but revolver fits zealot better
spiral anvil
Also their ammo reserve got buffed in the latest patch, so it's reasonable now
junior vortex
You need blessings to effectively use the revolver apparently meaning it kinda sucks.
At least that's what I took from that.
fading vale
what
vocal pulsar
what
coarse birch
yeah what
fading vale
many things require blessings
spiral anvil
At least that's what I took from that.
Not really, it just means if you have the correct blessings it becomes a monster
fading vale
shotguns being one of them
coarse birch
yeah its very common for blessings to make a huge diff
think of like caxe
totally different weapons with one blessing
fading vale
agri revolver doesn't really have any blessings that make a big difference
fading vale
like sure you can slap crucian and hand cannon on
and get a pretty low return overall
coarse birch
most people arent talking about how good a weapon is if its grey
or running nothing blessings
north sedge
i only talk about them as greys you get at the time you unlock them 😔
fading vale
as far as ranged without blessings what, laspistol, agri brauto, probably IAGs
well that don't need blessings
coarse birch
BA is the big one
fading vale
don't really even need BA but it's nice for big enemies and huge packs
coarse birch
yeah its nice when your holding it down for 1000 things
otherwise its prob not proccing cause your just applying burn
and then stopping
fleet zealot
You need blessings to effectively use the revolver apparently meaning it kinda s...
is your info old asf?
like, these are things that would all be true months ago
well, besides kanty, kanty was always god tier
fading vale
pinning go brr
fading vale
shotguns at least if you aren't crit memeing require no respite
coarse birch
yeah
fading vale
but if crit then you require scattershot cause it's 60% crit for some reason now lol
started at what.... 4%?
coarse birch
Yeah it was p sad
fading vale
I'm not sure how to feel about the gun crit blessings cause they mostly seem to be either terrible or just make you crit all the time
like headhunter on a vraks 3
or surgical
or scattershot
coarse birch
Id be more ok with it if crit strings werent the way they were/how strong crit shit is in the trees
fading vale
and then you have deadly accurate on top of headhunter and it's like wow cool I just do a billion more damage now
coarse birch
And finesse giving you jt
Not just crit damage
So you get the bolter stuff josho mentioned
Yeah HHs could probably use some reworking
At least they are headshot weps
Less mindless than like ap and shit
coarse birch
Oh i yeah i meant reworking so you can put not DA/HH on it
As a requirement to make them good
fading vale
day 400 of asking for thrust to be built in to hammer
(and making sna useful and deleting impact blessings)
unless they have a future impact rework that does something more
ripe quest
day 400 of asking for thrust to be built in to hammer
Day 23 of asking for BM to be reworked into a base mechanic for certain weapon families.
coarse birch
Yeah we really could use more than +power and impact
fading vale
Day 23 of asking for BM to be reworked into a base mechanic for certain weapon f...
see hsword
ripe quest
If you can get a weakspot 1 shot you tap into the 2nd cleave value and be goated
fading vale
well it's a trivialized version of BM built into hsword but still
coarse birch
But it just invalidates weapon weaknesses and destroys weapon identity
fading vale
Its like almost cool
but it can never be balanced as a generic blessing
fading vale
the previous iteration was just as bad in a different way
delicate shadow
tbh if it just gave a flat cleave bonus on weakspot kill for like 1.5 seconds you could actually balance it
instead of fucking ignoring hit mass entirely
idk who thought that was a good idea but it's cooked af
fading vale
kind of but also just random non interactive +cleave blessings are so boring
ripe quest
+100% cleave on kill, stacks 5 times and lasts 2 seconds.
junior vortex
I use surgical and speedloader on my agripinaa revolver.
Probably why it's actually good to use.
fading vale
what
junior vortex
Surgical makes it actually useful.
spare dome
i miss the old speedload
fading vale
surgical on fan is effectively useless if you are shooting more than 1 shot
and then you are literally just using zarona but gimped
junior vortex
Well the fan is pretty good at breaking apart enemies, and speedloader on that revolver makes it amazing.
ripe quest
wait wait wait you're telling me you said this under the assumption of using a Surgical + Speedloader Agri
fading vale
lol
junior vortex
I mean the shotgun is the same way useless without good blessings or perks.
fading vale
I was assuming something like piety build with crucian hand cannon which would actually kill a crusher
junior vortex
I do it fine on pskyer.
polar nexus
No
junior vortex
I have the tools to make it good.
coarse birch
yeah we are assuming you are running the best blessings when we talk about how good or bad a weapon is
junior vortex
I mean it works fine without those prior.
fading vale
3 mags into a crusher later
junior vortex
Better then bolter by a lot.
calm salmon
I mean the shotgun is the same way useless without good blessings or perks.
its honestly just no respite doing all the work on shotguns.
perks/second blessing are an afterthought
coarse birch
it is not better than bolter
fading vale
a single bolter mag can kill like 4 crushers
calm salmon
all you need is no respite to have a competitive shotgun.
ripe quest
what in the
junior vortex
Yes it is. Do you understand how long it takes to kill enemies magdumping compared to agripinaa
coarse birch
yeah less time
fading vale
what
coarse birch
bolter can also be used in more ways than magdumping it
ripe quest
You can like, 2-3 shot Crushers with a Boltgun and that's not even when you're squeezing for damage.
junior vortex
Headshot with boltgun in a life or death situation yeah right.
fading vale
I want to try your version of the game
coarse birch
bolter can also get away with not headshots if you are critting often
cause it has good finesse
spiral anvil
Just crit more owo
spare dome
rng better DUMMY
fading vale
piety unironically being a bolter node
spiral anvil
I actually have a piety cavalcade meme build
ripe quest
If you really min max the Boltgun damage you can get like 11 crushers a mag with a magdump but that's using SC.
spiral anvil
It's decent actually lol
Except you have no ammo, so you better bring throwing knives
fading vale
does cavalcade work on bolter ads decently
spiral anvil
does cavalcade work on bolter ads decently
I don't it counts....? But I wasn't big brain enough to try
calm salmon
rng better DUMMY
considering that surgical exists, you can even remove rng from the equation
coarse birch
its kind of a magdump blessing
junior vortex
Maybe don't use all your ammo and have good ammo conservation
fading vale
I don't it counts....? But I wasn't big brain enough to try
assuming close range and semi rapid fire
calm salmon
but that mostly just works for veteran due to suppression immunity
fading vale
I know it's for magdump just a curiousity
spiral anvil
We were talking about magdumping 4 crushers
ripe quest
I faintly recall it resetting when you ads cancel a shot but I don't recall if it stays between ads shots normally
coarse birch
although if your waiting that long might as well run surgical
junior vortex
Speedloader and Surgical makes all these impossible things you say possible.
ripe quest
Speedloader and Surgical makes all these impossible things you say possible.
So you're telling me you drop 3x damage against Carapace on a crit for, speedloader? In an argument regarding Crushers?
fading vale
it is objective that they are two of the worst blessings
junior vortex
Yes, yes I do.
rigid trellis
you don't need speedload on the agri and surgical is more for the zarona
junior vortex
It makes it faster though.
rigid trellis
no shit
coarse birch
its reload speed by default is fine
rigid trellis
but it isn't needed
junior vortex
Faster reload doesn't hurt to have.
spiral anvil
If I only ate at gas stations I would think they have the best food too
ripe quest
3x damage against Crushers vs. a slightly faster fast reload
fading vale
conditionally
junior vortex
The pistol isn't bad it's just preference.
Like how shotgun by my preference is bad.
north sedge
I run terrifying barrage and idk works for me, myself
spiral anvil
Wow we actually forgot about the worse blessing
fading vale
you can't just ignore how good or bad things actually are and be like well hey I run this!
ripe quest
I'd genuinely rather have TB over Speedloader on an Agri.
junior vortex
Because if it works for that person and not other this is a videogame. Metas just ignore blatant skill of a player and are just stupid and overrated.
coarse birch
no?
fading vale
coarse birch
you can use what you want
but some things are better than others
thats just how the game works
junior vortex
Better based on your preference and what works for you.
spiral anvil
I think it's just a difference in playstyle
junior vortex
My play style makes this works.
spiral anvil
Some people eat crushers for breakfast with their gun, others run away in fear and that's all well and good
polar nexus
actually speedloader is fun on the agri if you don't go crusher hunting
fading vale
I think it's just a difference in playstyle
brb magdumping my revolver as fast as possible the entire game
junior vortex
Well I usually have veterans with grenades too.
So I normally don't have the chance.
But when I do it works fine.
Maybe because they're normally usually not swarming you.
ripe quest
Because if it works for that person and not other this is a videogame. Metas jus...
There can def be objective differences between blessings and weapons. You can say that one weapon isn't to your preference or that another is, but saying something like a Speedloader + Surgical Agri is good for Crushers over other options is objectively wrong. Like, personally I avoid the meta unless I'm being braindead and sometimes I do run an Agri Rev since I like the weapon. But I'd be tripping balls if I were to come out and claim I'm handling Crushers better than a Boltgun for instance.
Run whatever you want, go ahead. But this is a comparison argument, we're comparing facts between weapons to find what's the best for, in this case, Crushers.
You dropping Hand-Cannon of all things is an immediate loss, again 3x damage against Carapace on a crit.
rigid trellis
dunno if this is a hot take but I feel like hand cannon blessing would make more sense on the boltgun n not the revolver
visual stream
I wish
coarse birch
well bolter already as p good cara ADMs to be fair
not sure about revo
even though rendings whole thing is making ADMs not matter
shy river
make a blessing for boltgun where it has a bit more rending but also hits on carapace/unyielding have like quad stagger radius
emphasize hittin da big boyz
ripe quest
It's also a case of rending scaling differently for each weapon. The 3x damage that Rev gets on crit goes to 2.5x on Boltgun for instance.
It directly alters the intended balance of a weapon so it can scale a touch bit weird.
coarse birch
oh i didnt realize that actually
ripe quest
Hence why it's nuts w/ Uncanny
hitting that cap makes the weapon that's not really intended for armor damage be more than base damage
spiral anvil
I remember one of my guns doing less damage to dreg gunner head than body shot lmao
coarse birch
yeah if your unarmored vs flak ADMS are wack enough
fading vale
laspistol be like
spiral anvil
Ah might be
fading vale
yeah chastise reduces your damage to flak on laspistol
coarse birch
laspistol also has funny unyielding damage
plain dragon
Brothers, what's the perks best fit for the Mk IV hammer?
jaunty lava
Sometimes i have brunt more than hadron
coarse birch
bolter/hsword is p braindead
yeah its my go to load out
kinda dumb
mostly cause lol hsword
ivory marlin
royal vortex
someone else was streaming and laz was bitching about me filling killfeeds lol
fading vale
of course
ivory marlin
median steeple
coarse birch
thats a really dumb question
fading vale
I just see a billion ragers killed instantly and it's like, oh hsword....
coarse birch
yeah funny hsword
coarse birch
i see how it is
median steeple
I just see a billion ragers killed instantly and it's like, oh hsword....
ah yes Excalibur
slender sigil
what should I replace reload spead with to deal more damage to maniacs and crushers?
spare talon
first it took about 30 minutes to get into the game
then i had to troubleshoot why i was always getting under 30 fps regardless of settings
then i had to wait another hour once i rebooted it after fixing what was causing the frame issues
played 3 missions
then my pc hard shut off and my pc wasnt detecting my gpu anymore so i had to open it up and uninstall and reinstall that
now when i open up the game its just the black screen before i can even get a chance to enter servers
coarse birch
can also do elites if you want more general damage but dont mind losing out some vs crushers
slender sigil
can also do elites if you want more general damage but dont mind losing out some...
elite counts for both crusher and maniacs? that would be perfect
coarse birch
no its crushers + p much everything not maniac
so if you want just crusher damage to carapace
you already have the maniac damage perk
spare talon
elite counts for both crusher and maniacs? that would be perfect
elites are any pingable enemy that is not a specialist
ie gunners, ragers, maulers, bulwarks
not trappers, snipers, mutants, dogs
slender sigil
ah I see, thanks
coarse birch
yeah
guys who dont make a spawn sound
are elites
uh minus ragers
wait are ragers elites
i forget
rigid trellis
ragers don't have a spawn sound
ripe quest
Crushers, Bulwarks, Reapers, Ragers, Gunners, Shotgunners, and Maulers.
coarse birch
ok thats what i thought
spare talon
elites is probably the most reliable damage perk behind flak, because of how many there are in higher difficulties
slender sigil
and I guess gloryhunter blessing I should probably swap to the handcannon blessing
coarse birch
guess ragers are an exception
coarse birch
and I guess gloryhunter blessing I should probably swap to the handcannon blessi...
yes
spare talon
wdym ragers are an exception
slender sigil
thanks
ripe quest
None of those mentioned elites make noise.
ripe quest
Snipers also don't make a spawn noise.
spare talon
Snipers also don't make a spawn noise.
not true
fading vale
i didnt see laz list ragers
what are we talking about
rigid trellis
snipers only make spawn sounds in waves of snipers maelstroms
coarse birch
i didnt mean to list you lol
i was being dumb and couldnt remember if ragers were elites
i figured they were cause no spawn noise
but i was second guessing myself
fading vale
definitely a brainfart moment
north sedge
Laz has a spawn noise, its a pic of steve
fading vale
At least you didn't confuse Michael J Fox and Django
coarse birch
id like to think im capable of not being stan
spare talon
Snipers also don't make a spawn noise.
yknow the spawn noise for sniper squads? there is a much quieter laser sound that plays when a sniper spawns
it is very quiet tho so its only really noticeable when not much is going on
fading vale
visual stream
Despite the odds stacked against me, I am a mayo chicken believer
coarse birch
although if you didnt eat the drippings out of the pan with a spoon after
your still ahead
visual stream
Reminds me of pasta water
fading vale
drippings drippings DRIPPINGS
visual stream
Would be wasted if not used
coarse birch
actually its drippings
north sedge
It's probably similar to coating a chicken in butter but the drippings pic is funny
coarse birch
i cant imagine cooked mayo tho
visual stream
I mean it looks like funny white gravy
fading vale
it's clearly an absolutely unnecessary amount of mayo that was on the chicken which is funny
visual stream
Would
coarse birch
but yeah
royal vortex
ugh not the fkin drippings again
coarse birch
he also put a comedic amount on
ripe quest
yknow the spawn noise for sniper squads? there is a much quieter laser sound tha...
Last I checked they don't have one in the files, it's only the modifier group spawn noise.
fading vale
ugh not the fkin drippings again
spare talon
Last I checked they don't have one in the files, it's only the modifier group sp...
i swear im not making shit up, ive been able to identify it numerous times and then see the sniper laser show up not too long after from the direction i heard the sound
light holly
https://tenor.com/view/drip-squad-saltigue-jurrassic420-landfall-games-landfall-...
chiilll
ionic nymph
theres a easier solution
ionic nymph
they have a mod that notifies you when stuff like monsters specials and elties spawn
coarse birch
you sure you typed in drippings
spare talon
and im not talking about the sound they make when theyre walking, im talking an actual spawn sound
ionic nymph
much easier
royal vortex
the last time someone sent me that gif they had WAY different intentions
fading vale
you sure you typed in drippings
visual stream
I just posted the first gif from searching drippings ok
Wait until you search up like literally any game as "hop on <game name>"
ionic nymph
it just notifies you with a popup anytime anything elite or up spawns
coarse birch
alright you get away this time laz
spare talon
the last time someone sent me that gif they had WAY different intentions
youre not beating the bottom allegations right now
delicate shadow
the last time someone sent me that gif they had WAY different intentions
of course someone would do that to you
good lord
ripe quest
i swear im not making shit up, ive been able to identify it numerous times and t...
I mean you're arguing against code rn. Haven't heard one, haven't seen one, afaik it doesn't exist. The Trapper noise is similar-ish to the squad spawn noise.
royal vortex
of course someone would do that to you
lmfao
coarse birch
i dont think josho ever was beating the bottom allegations
better chance than arco though
visual stream
I mean you're arguing against code rn. Haven't heard one, haven't seen one, afai...
Bro with the spidey sense
royal vortex
"allegations"
coarse birch
what do you want me to call them
fading vale
the sniper spawn sound is occasionally a character saying - hey there's a sniper!
visual stream
the sniper spawn sound is occasionally a character saying - hey there's a sniper...
Funny that you don't even need to be looking at the direction of the sniper for this
coarse birch
sniper simply needs to exist
ivory marlin
first it took about 30 minutes to get into the game
then i had to troubleshoot w...
Helldivers 2 is having some issues
ripe quest
There's that one yeah, but comes up way after they spawn
fading vale
yeah
visual stream
impossible to hear during a mission
Sedition gamers 🔛🔝
coarse birch
snipers being quiet im ok with
glad cave
Why does the eyepatch show unlocked, but locked in cosmetics screen?
coarse birch
provided the laser shows up properly
ripe quest
Why does the eyepatch show unlocked, but locked in cosmetics screen?
I've heard a bit about that, seems like a bug going around.
glad cave
k ty
ripe quest
Some people get it fixed automatically later, might have to wait for a hotfix for it though.
fading vale
I know relogging used to resolve some cosmetic issues
hot jolt
fading vale
but those were penance related afaik
coarse birch
yeah penance stuff had that issue
idk about now
i dont really have many cosmetics left to unlock through penances
just ogryn ones i think
rigid trellis
snipers being quiet im ok with
running through a sniper laser and getting shot with a silent bullet isn't very fun
fading vale
me and my level 13 vet
coarse birch
well yeah provided they make the firing sound
wait you dont play vet laz
i was unaware
fading vale
fuck no
fading vale
I'd prolly be more open to playing them now
coarse birch
which is less than zealot and way less than psyker still
yeah they are less dumb now
at least like
fading vale
but pre patch 13? never would consider it
coarse birch
in the same way
pre patch 13 vet i liked although i didnt run bolter/ap
i ran like mk12/helbore/plasma
i will admit i was a filthy rashaad/psword user though
please forgive me
fading vale
I'd probably play it solely to screw around with OP stuff for a few days but that's about it
royal vortex
post-13 vet is way more fun
coarse birch
yeah
we can meme about lol shout
but he does have some neat stuff
even if i dont play him much
fading vale
the best aura that's not an aura
coarse birch
yeah surv should die
fading vale
no no
fading vale
field improv
spare talon
i just realized that pfp is aigis
coarse birch
field improv goated
coarse birch
i just realized that pfp is aigis
yes
rigid trellis
until someone grabs a grimoire
fading vale
field improv goated
why is it the best aura
rigid trellis
then that medipack is goneskies
coarse birch
great question laz
fading vale
for a single node
little thicket
Loner is the best aura
drifting wolf
curse of ra
coarse birch
that bait is getting a bit stale at this point
i still wonder if we all just got baited like 2 hours ago with the agri thing
fading vale
why wouldn't you run it outside of principle, it's insane
south folio
throwing knife zealots in shambles
coarse birch
tknife is simply goated
south folio
me throwing my cutlery at a bulwark shield
little thicket
it has to do with vets wanting to keep points for th ened
south folio
all 48 of it
little thicket
many of their best talents are abit before the keystones.
violet hornet
all 48 of it
got that costco 48 piece knife set
fading vale
all the clutches I end up in that matter have bulwarks and yeah.... knives
little thicket
all the clutches I end up in that matter have bulwarks and yeah.... knives
dats because your a filthy zealot
Simply explode bulwark with mind?
fading vale
I instead drop a fire nade and kill the entire bulwark pack and all the surrounding ragers
coarse birch
and it is tied to a resource
yeah gotta kite them around
sucks if they just leave
fading vale
I can see it being less meaningful depending on your melee
but with hammer and not being able to kill a bajillion elites in 2 seconds
coarse birch
yeah it would be good for elites
since i mostly run like dclaw/crusher/evis/hsword on zealot i dont need them
and bolter is a common gun for me to take
i do take them for hammer
esp since fighting ragers with hammer is sadge
fading vale
I just wish hammer did maniac damage on normals
coarse birch
yeah you just like
cant fight them
ironhelm can like kinda combo them
but even then
a mass of them isnt great
fading vale
with 0 buffs, it takes like.... 13 lights to kill a rager I think
coarse birch
the heavies are also very mid
fading vale
4 or 5 to kill a trapper
delicate shadow
crushermaxxing and tknifepilled
fading vale
I'm fine with the attacks on everything but maniac as far as normals go
coarse birch
yeah it should probably have like not crazy unactivated damage
but its really sad vs maniac
hot jolt
keep or scrap?
coarse birch
keep
hot jolt
ill never use it
fading vale
I mean it's a perfect standard chord
I keep things I don't use with the idea that maybe one day
coarse birch
carapace has always felt mid to me on them
yeah i do have some stuff thats like
if they change these blessings
its very good
fading vale
oh, yeah perfect outside of cara probably but still
coarse birch
caras not dead at least
i think i finally have a good/perfect roll of every weapon psyker can use
which im happy about
but also kinda sad
like damn
i was doing that forever
fading vale
I beg you as a 2483 to post a screenshot of your knife
hot jolt
ive a few
coarse birch
well thats encouraging at least
fading vale
your favorite
hot jolt
speed knife and then damage knife.
fading vale
well neither are great, left is dead, and right is decent
but at least you have uncanny on the right one
median steeple
fading vale
I don't know what I expected but I think that was the reaction I expected
delicate shadow
hey that's dough's meme
fading vale
also can't really suggest crit chance perk particularly if you have piety
delicate shadow
that's rough man
north sedge
fading vale
and mercy killer never works on the first hit which by default makes it worse than other options
south folio
high levels doesn't exclude people from bad takes
there was another 2.4k level zealot who misunderstood what swift certainty did and doubled down on it
fading vale
literally every person in this channel would tell you to change your knives
coarse birch
yeah level only means so much
fading vale
every single person
hot jolt
ggs
coarse birch
like run what you want but he isnt wrong by default for being lower level
fading vale
there was another 2.4k level zealot who misunderstood what swift certainty did a...
don't forget Mr 800 hours of flamer
that had no idea what the blessings he ran did
delicate shadow
I'm in the game credits so you should all listen to me for I am very smart
delicate shadow
that is some uncanny valley shit
buoyant pecan
I'm in the game credits so you should all listen to me for I am very smart
Aquinoa the Bunny
north sedge
buoyant pecan
fading vale
https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-helldivers-surprised-shocked-scared-gif-1461...
don't we have an emote for this now
delicate shadow
I heard the HD2 discord has some uhhhh
buoyant pecan
median steeple
delicate shadow
power trippy mods
median steeple
@/everyone please do not spam F
fading vale
sounds like a dark place
delicate shadow
yea that lol
imagine if we banned people for next weeking, server would be decimated
fading vale
@/everyone please do not spam F
we are disabling the discord for a few hours cause F spam
median steeple
buoyant pecan
the mod got trigger3d, then baited.
ripe quest
of the HD2 discord
I'm willing to bet the whole "We didn't expect this many people" thing extends to the discord and the like 4 staff they had prepped got 20 staff worth of intake
coarse birch
imagine if we banned people for next weeking, server would be decimated
i would be ok with banning these people
at least nowadays
median steeple
Ban everyone in #general-chat
coarse birch
I'm willing to bet the whole "We didn't expect this many people" thing extends t...
yeah probs
ripe quest
Delete general chat
buoyant pecan
they tagged everybody in a 200k+ discord
ripe quest
for 1 day
buoyant pecan
drifting wolf
havent been in that one for a while, what happened to it
ripe quest
The Noita server and helvetti 
fading vale
I give helldivers issues a pass solely because the game is good and realizing how impossible it would be to prepare for that many players
delicate shadow
moderation of the DRG disc is pretty bleh
they get upset at the most minor shit
I once got muted for making a suggestion that had already been made once before like
that's just dumb
coarse birch
damn
median steeple
we found them
coarse birch
wouldnt expect that in DRG of all places
median steeple
the stereotypical discord mod
delicate shadow
nah it makes sense tbh
coarse birch
although i dont actually know that games community well
dusty hull
don't forget Mr 800 hours of flamer
I mean I still have that issue 150 hours in where I only know around 1/6 of the blessings
delicate shadow
a lot of the wholesome 💯 ™️ shit with DRG is like, not real
median steeple
unironically the DRG reddit is better but thats because the sub is moderated by the devs and they're chill
fading vale
they get upset at the most minor shit
imagine how much less engaging this discord would be if yall were like that, I mean it has been or was too lax regarding certain things but damn
coarse birch
stan would be in fucking shambles
delicate shadow
yeah this server would be dead if we were ultra-draconian
median steeple
ripe quest
This server was shaped by the femboy posting.
buoyant pecan
a lot of the wholesome 💯 ™️ shit with DRG is like, not real
DRG ingame is wholesome
fading vale
This server was *shaped* by the femboy posting.
ripe quest
It was forged in iron
median steeple
I do miss the history chats of vet chat
dusty hull
yeah this server would be dead if we were ultra-draconian
"Yes but Chaos is worse. Therefore the Imperium is justified"
coarse birch
This alone would have killed stan and he would have died 1000 times before that
drifting wolf
i've maybe only had 2-3 bad experiences in 500 hours of deep rock, i think the ingame community is alright
coarse birch
Although id be gone too lol
delicate shadow
"Yes but Chaos is worse. Therefore the Imperium is justified"
god those people are tiresome
fading vale
deep rock is similar to helldivers in that it's more of a just pure fun mess around kind of game
median steeple
dusty hull
I got really bored of DRG after 40ish hours
delicate shadow
I had fun in DRG for the time I spent with it but it didn't grab me like tide
coarse birch
it did not grab me like tide