#zealot-class

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lusty turtle
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shotguns are good tho

ember yew
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@lusty turtlei gave Agri Mk1 another shot and it still feels that it could use at least a max ammo buff. Technically, Columnus V IAG can do all that and much better (even sniping). To me it feels the same as swapping from MK2 to the slower MK10 Laspistol (usable, but why use it when there's basically a better version).
All AG1 IAG got against Columnus V is a small penetration bonus.

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Stability shouldn't be an issue.

lusty turtle
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well the reason to use it is cause running columnus every match is boring

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and its not like agri is bad

ember yew
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well i never called it bad, the only one weapon that is terrible is Lux Autopistol, they really need to buff it

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even it's high stagger is more of a hindrance than a bonus

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poor gun does not have anything to stand out

polar nexus
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how the mighty have fallen

lusty turtle
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but ye the main thing is the 3x headshot dmg means all 3 IAGs are bonkers, the agri just has an easier time tappin heads at range and actually doing damage

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columnus IS the best atm, but i think thats mostly down to it being too controllable. it needs to be less accurate at range and work more like an smg

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it already has harsher ranged fall off on the adm end iirc

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buuut it doesn't matter much with its none existent recoil, especially on vet

ember yew
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and it's not like sniper or gunners got a lot of HP

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unless you are "sniping" an ogryn

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i like the idea of kinda-sniper-rifle though (AG1 ref)

lusty turtle
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vraks 7 is better for it, but agri 1 ain't bad

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that 3x on heads is genuinly a blessing for it, easily 3 shot heavy gunners

ember yew
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i used vraks 3 a lot, but it's bug affecting it's burst fire got me, i think they fixed it in december

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but i already sold my vraks by mistake 🤡

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tbh dont remember which vraks it was

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also i sold AG9 Headhunter by mistake too

lusty turtle
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rest in piss

ember yew
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got distracted by phone call

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after that i started using mods

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sorting overclogged inventory is still annoying as hell though, do that usually once a week

blissful falcon
ivory marlin
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Guys i just realized jale is my ship name

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Jelly+Gale

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It all makes sense

ivory marlin
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Hi mal

dry sierra
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what's the "best" build to use, when trying to complete "its just a flesh wound"
i would assume stealth? no idea on weapons, if they matter at all

south folio
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yeah you could just stealth run through a level like magistrati with a friend or something

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you should complete it handily under 20 minutes on magistrati regardless of the sprint speed of the weapon

ivory marlin
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Damn helldivers starting to make me think 20 minutes is a hell of a long time

dense field
ivory marlin
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For everyone but me it seems

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I get on the second i open the game but it took my friends hours to hop on

dense field
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You're so lucky

ivory marlin
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I’ve been hearing that alot lately

dry sierra
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anyone up for doing a penance run?
speedrun specifically

ripe quest
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Every time I've played it's been a .3 second queue time

fading vale
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I've always gotten in fast except for the other night when black screen was happening to everyone, but I was the first in of us after it got fixed

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idk if it's server proximity or something

solar gorge
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I think it's easier to get in if you're EU, idunno

fading vale
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I'm not EU but I am fairly close to Atlanta so idk

drowsy steppe
ripe quest
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The primal urge to shotgun a bright and sunny level 12 who wandered into high tier with a GL and keeps point blanking shit next to me

drowsy steppe
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Give in to the dark urge

inner vigil
ripe quest
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Talking about Helldivers

inner vigil
ripe quest
frozen glen
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mid

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use orbital laser

ripe quest
# frozen glen use orbital laser

They can walk away from an orbital laser quite easy, a 500kg drops in within a few seconds and if you can see the labels on it, it's probably gonna hit you.

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Gives them that classical fear of god.

frozen glen
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all u have to do is go prone

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0 dmg

ripe quest
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I'm doubtful a level 15 or whatever is gonna do that.

stone fern
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69% first target

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uhhhh

ember yew
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go brick

hushed knoll
nimble fiber
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omg its william da friend

drowsy steppe
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He's Bill the enemy

drifting wolf
fading vale
nimble fiber
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wp

royal vortex
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i am curious

fading vale
# royal vortex elaborate

I threw it on the opposite side and I guess it killed everything and zoomed back to the side I was fighting on

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right over me

royal vortex
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lmao

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f

frank night
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same as how the turrets dont cease firing while swapping targets

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many chaingun-related bisections

drifting wolf
royal vortex
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very funny

frank night
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the autocannon is well behaved in my exp

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its not the mortar sentry where someone panic places it with the enemy at sniffing distance

fading vale
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I have definitely been killed by my own autocannon turret

royal vortex
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the autocannon is well behaved until it flicks and fires a single shell into your skull before resuming its regular duties

frank night
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are you sure that wasnt a teammate

royal vortex
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mr soiling fail, i am certain

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iceslow is the only guy ive played with iirc who even brought an autocannon

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and that was for 1 round

drifting wolf
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ems mortar is a real one

frank night
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I might start bringing an autocannon again

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being able to drop an objective from sniper distance is good

royal vortex
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please do not attempt to kill me with it i am more than capable of doing it on my own

frank night
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what do you mean 'attempt'

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I have caused your demise without trying multiple times

royal vortex
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every time u have killed me so far has been an accident

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which is not deliberate

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and not an attempt

calm salmon
frank night
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semantic simon

royal vortex
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soiling fail

calm salmon
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is very solid for a two man

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the other person can take whatever.

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Drop AC Turret, Drop Rocket Turret, Drop Orbital Gas

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afk while the AI do the work for you

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even chargers and bile titans turn into meat paste.

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Turrets seem like dogshit against robots though. They just kill them immediately.

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Mortars seem like the better choice there.

royal vortex
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the mortar is p cool until there's a robot in some weird corner next to a terminal you want to use and the mortar will not stop its aggravated attempts at removing the robot

calm salmon
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Yeah. . .

drifting wolf
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i've heard mortars perform better against automatons because the majority of the bots prefer to shoot from a distance rather than glue themselves to you like the bugs

calm salmon
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Ehhh

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No

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Even the trash mobs bum rush you, its just at a walking pace

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Which is really weird. The bots don't actually act like ranged enemies, they're more like terminators where they continually walk forward no matter what, even though they're carting guns.

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A good facsimile is Scab Stalkers.

frank night
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I always bring that basic eagle airstrike

royal vortex
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the eagle airstrike has consistently done something

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a lot of the other options im just sitting there like wow they advertised this as killing enemies

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(it didn't)

frank night
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you bring orbital barrages

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low intelligence specimen

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the purpose of the 380mm is to accidentally teamwipe yourself

royal vortex
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i thought it would be cool

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neither orbital barrage feels particularly useful and this is SAD

frank night
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I feel like the 180mm and 380mm are programmed to try and have at least one shell land on a friendly

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because I have been arbitrarily vaporised by it while miles away from the beacon

south folio
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good

royal vortex
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the sad thing is it seems really good at just avoiding enemies

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and hitting teammates

frank night
south folio
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die

royal vortex
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although the 500kg bomb is p cool

frank night
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my beef with the 500kg is that it fucks with the other eagle stuff

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cos your big kahuna is not rearming while eagle 1 is still on station with other weapons

royal vortex
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😔

frank night
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altho the eagle weapons seem to be

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basic airstrike

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500kg

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rocket pods if you're a fancy bean

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not much else

royal vortex
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the clusterbombs are nice

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but they are limited to annihilating a bunch of stuff that isn't particularly threatening

frank night
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I file the clusterbombs under things more likely to make the situation worse

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or maybe ppl dont throw them far enough

royal vortex
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i feel like u have to have something catastrophically stupid happen for it to make a situation worse

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bird threw two in a row at me because of the scrambler and i survived both

frank night
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roach like behaviour

royal vortex
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our natural stupidity cancels each others out

frank night
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i wonder if scrambler will stay because there's like

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50000 ppl reporting it as a bug

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when they turn their own team into jam on spawn

royal vortex
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my problem with the scrambler is that it sometimes takes me 20 fucking tries

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to get the thing i want

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and at this point its legitimately just super irritating

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it should at most cycle through ur available stratagems

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so u eventually get it instead of resorting to just throwing all the shit u dont want because it will literally just not give u it

frank night
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i see the hd2 discord is still coping well with the tech issues

royal vortex
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You’ll NEVER experiences womans touch, literally a big an ur tryna gaslight me

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first thing i see

frank night
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weirdly the discord is the one that's not coping well

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usually I see the discord being the supporter base

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and reddit going insane

left iron
frank night
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iceslow appears for the sole purpose of calling josho dumb

left iron
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Yes

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The EMS mortar can also kill you

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But you need to really try

frank night
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I'm not massively a fan of the 'hits largest target' thing

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with turrets

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cos any time a dropship shows up my AC turret slowly spins away from actual incoming enemies

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to blow six shots on something it wont kill before it flies away

sharp zodiac
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What the flipnarp

zealous basin
drowsy steppe
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what da frick

desert bough
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Ulgo think inquisitor pal should be here

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Pal name is Victor Saltzpyre

frosty herald
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Cant you edit turret behavior

steel agate
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no the only thing u can edit is where u place it stratagem wise

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the turret will automatically do its thing after being deployed

zealous basin
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i think ill queue for randoms today and bring arc gun

steel agate
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if i was going for team kills i'd go telsa coil instead, then they'll at least know where the chain lightning thats killing them is coming from lul

zealous basin
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more satisfying when i do it with my own hands

steel agate
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it is ur own hands imo, u did use one to yeet the stratagem

nimble fiber
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bread

north sedge
royal vortex
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i'll make sure to also deploy a clusterbomb on my friends after being assaulted

north sedge
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You dared me to punch you that one time

royal vortex
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that time i killed myself

still quartz
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Need to make an isekai series except the only place the protagonist got transported to is the hospital

hushed knoll
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I am legit going to throw blue paint on my walls today

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I want to douse myself in thick magenta primer

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IT'S A BOY

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Oh my God coffee is hitting me

drowsy steppe
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its a boy

drowsy steppe
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dear god whats the lore behind this one

frank night
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coffee is not supposed to hit a fully grown adult male like that

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are you sure that's coffee

royal vortex
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he just did a line of coke

nimble fiber
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probably coffee

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but also something else

frank night
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things said by helldivers during the 4th stim trip

sharp zodiac
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Sir this is the scariest moment of my life

drowsy steppe
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whys he has big thighs

sharp zodiac
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I don't know

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Nor want to

native cargo
sharp zodiac
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Oh FUCK off

nimble fiber
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I bet he just wants friends
(he probably wants to kill u)

still quartz
frank night
ornate bone
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am i getting something wrong or stealth zaelot is pretty sucky sucky?

ornate bone
coarse birch
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its worse than chastise for sure

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chastise is kinda just cracked

fading vale
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it's definitely worse than chastise

coarse birch
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but steath zealot can be good still

fading vale
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but stealth is solid for clutches/revives

coarse birch
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ive never used stealth on not knife though

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(even then chastise is better)

frozen glen
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stealth is great for speedrunning and popping it when u aggro the 50 enemy patrols

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so ur team can handle them

coarse birch
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true

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this is the real use

fading vale
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in terms of general performance stealth as is will never compete and as mentioned above people misuse it

coarse birch
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i love not interacting with my action video game

fading vale
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but for something like twins it can be pretty good

royal vortex
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the big annoyance i have is the nodes nodes above the auras being weighted super hard to benediction and therefore chastise

fading vale
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yeah that is annoying too

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stealth has some never take stuff

coarse birch
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yeah

frozen glen
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yeah i dont like the nodes nodes selection

coarse birch
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too many nodes

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bloated

royal vortex
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i have seen 1 use for ambuscade that does anything and its twins

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grievous wounds likewise is just kinda a meme because u can just grab punishment

fading vale
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I once again ask that at least nades be a choice outside of the tree

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nades and auras would be chefs kiss but I can accept nades

coarse birch
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what do you want them replaced with

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just like more options

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well

frozen glen
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me barely scraping by just to get second wind and immo nades

coarse birch
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obv

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yeah second wind + TWBS is really hard to grab

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if you arent taking tknives

fading vale
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just a tree you can choose from without required pathing for x blitz or aura

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if the auras were compelling and related to the tree then maybe they could be part of it but

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as is....

coarse birch
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i actually had that issue with psyker tree cause i wanted shriek and crit aura and realized i couldnt get it

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yeah auras could use some work

royal vortex
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the auras are p much just pathing nodes but large

coarse birch
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as could coherency in turn

royal vortex
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outside of survivalist

coarse birch
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like i kind of notice them

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sometimes

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but not when it really matters

royal vortex
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sometimes i go "damn im the only guy alive loner wouldve been cool" but the price u pay for loner

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is taking at least 1 completely useless talent node

coarse birch
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yeah

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and even then its just nice

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when your solo

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not a huge deal

fading vale
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this branching pains me but it's not like I can change anything if I want immo

coarse birch
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it doesnt help i just never use the middle tree

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cause i dont want anything on it

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ever

fading vale
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yeah, that's one thing that kind of makes relic annoying

royal vortex
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20% infested/unyielding is nice for vibes

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or like hammer

coarse birch
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oh i meant like

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middle middle

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SOC and stuiff

royal vortex
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oh yeah no that tree is unmitigated dogshit

fading vale
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yeah middle middle is horrible

coarse birch
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i like purge

royal vortex
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shield of contempt is super degenerate

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shouldnt be in the game

fading vale
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yeah I don't want to use soc

royal vortex
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but then ur left with a bunch of nodes that do p much nothing

coarse birch
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TWBS is the cheat node ill take on zealot

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SOC is just

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bleh

fading vale
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I can't really not use TWBS given I only use crucis

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which is an annoying requirement

coarse birch
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i could get away with not using it but tbh gunner stagger is really cringe

fading vale
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yeah player stagger needs a rework

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not every enemy should constantly stagger

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should be designated attacks or enemies

royal vortex
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they need to make the general stagger/supression baseline less oppressive than it is rn but having total immunity to everything like twbs zealot does is probs too far

little thicket
coarse birch
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i died the other day cause my teammate didnt push a burster and then a gunner started shooting me and i couldnt move into an overhead

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and i was like

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cool

fading vale
royal vortex
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the problem being u have stagger or u dont

little thicket
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Are you still sane?

coarse birch
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tbf i think laz is like a solo hammer main

coarse birch
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like i just want to be able to move

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or advance down a hallway a single reaper is occupying

fading vale
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hammer is the only weapon that really interests me, maybe crusher, but I like being incentivized to aim and use more complex mouse movement etc on the weapon to do well with it

coarse birch
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but getting full stuck just feels like dogshit

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because one of 45 heavy gunners on the map are shooting me

fleet zealot
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in the bedded room. straight up "sobbin it". and by "it", haha, well. let's just say. My eyes out

fading vale
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I would rather die than use a caxe at least on zealot, I rarely play other classes to fuck around with nonsense

coarse birch
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id even be fine with higher damage

jagged geyser
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I feel like I’m not doing enough with my zealot

coarse birch
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caxe is p gross

jagged geyser
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Im using that one no stealth meta build on the lantern site

coarse birch
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i have used it recently but not with BM

jagged geyser
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No clue what weapons to run

royal vortex
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there are ideas behind the achlys that seem cool but i dont think its worth much atm

fading vale
fleet zealot
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anyone can put meta this meta that but even upvotes are meaningless

jagged geyser
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Ruh roh

coarse birch
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Yeah i wouldnt use games lantern

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There is some good stuff on there but you really gotta sift through it

jagged geyser
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I’ll preface that I don’t play much so I don’t get to tweak builds a whole lot

fading vale
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the only reliable source of info is this channel really, reddit youtube and gameslantern just uh.... yeah

jagged geyser
coarse birch
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But achlys is still a little awkward

fading vale
fleet zealot
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all it is, is dumb people being mislead by someone who managed to articulate an essay about their build and they don't bother fact checking anything

fleet zealot
fading vale
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what melee weapon are you using or do you want to use

jagged geyser
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Pain

jagged geyser
timber ether
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i try not to use TWBS thinking i can only get better without the crutch, but it's so good.

fleet zealot
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you arent dumb

fading vale
timber ether
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but the stagger system from guns currently in the game should go in the bin

fleet zealot
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the people who upvote and swear by it

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are dumb

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you at least had the brains to realize something was off

jagged geyser
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I was bottom fragging in damn and I was like I don’t do this on my vet

fading vale
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yeah DT is needlessly complex to understand well and really the only way is nerding out in discord

coarse birch
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Its very complex and not explained

jagged geyser
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If someone wants to walk me through this/show build I’ll be grateful

coarse birch
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And most of the community just says random shit including the popular content creators

fading vale
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zealot is a different beast, you have to ready to use all your tools to engage into melee range and dive enemies

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and shut down packs of things, especially ranged

coarse birch
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Yeah its a very aggressive melee class

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With good survivability to help run into stuff

fading vale
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and the best way to survive is getting into the thick of things

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almost all of the weapons we have can do the job, but some require specific blessings and what not of course

fading vale
coarse birch
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There are some hopefully less time consuming ones like crusher or hsword

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Crafting wise

jagged geyser
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Yeah I think I’ll stick with my heavy sword on this

fading vale
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post your hsword if you can

jagged geyser
sharp zodiac
fading vale
# jagged geyser

it's very good but I would recommend headtaker deathblow over headtaker rampage

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but that one should still slap pretty hard

jagged geyser
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Gotcha. What does deathblow do?

fading vale
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ideally higher first target

fading vale
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if you know what that does

jagged geyser
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gotcha

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also have this lmao

fading vale
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also do you know what swift certainty actually does

jagged geyser
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we're ignoring the damage stat

fleet zealot
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haymaker is garbo

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on knifes, esp the mk3

fading vale
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haymaker to precog and crit to probably flak

jagged geyser
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gotcha

fading vale
jagged geyser
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zealot guide, found it

fleet zealot
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precog, executor

fading vale
jagged geyser
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gotcha

fading vale
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and of course the top right tree

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for the crit talents

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and momentum toughness node is garbo cause it's max once every 8 seconds and procs when you start fights and procs regardless of your current toughness

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so it's entirely unreliable

jagged geyser
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to know

fading vale
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the only synergy it could possibly have is if you stealth with low toughness and use it to get toughness when you hit out of stealth

jagged geyser
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oh and the swift certainty thing, useful?

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the running ciunting as dodging

fading vale
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it's basically 10% movement speed

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it is not dodging

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it simply makes it so you maintain the ability to dodge ranged by running sideways when you are at 0 stam

quasi marsh
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The dodging thing refers to the dodge state vs ranged

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This

fading vale
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which is not a "dodge"

jagged geyser
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ahhhhh

quasi marsh
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It's better to think of it as bullet immunity

fading vale
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yeah

fleet zealot
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i asked catshark if they could change the name to Evasion or something like that

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instead of using dodge, which was already a keyword

south folio
jagged geyser
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i have been using it for ranged tbf

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i wish i was smarter

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thanks guys

south folio
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as long as you're not facing a frontal angle, you get ranged i-frames

fading vale
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this game doesn't explain things, we just spent way too much time figuring out what things actually do

molten magnet
quasi marsh
jagged geyser
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for a heavy melee build, what grenade do y'all take?

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I've been using stuns/knives

quasi marsh
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I only use knife

jagged geyser
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depedning on build

molten magnet
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Stunnn

fading vale
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by now everyone is using mostly fire or knives

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not to say stuns are bad

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they are good just less convenient for most builds

molten magnet
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Tru

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I just like stunning things :3

south folio
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my choice is p much decided by pathing, so i always take throwing knives since i like the top-right nodes

molten magnet
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OH speaking of cool things

jagged geyser
molten magnet
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Powerwash sim is collabing with darktide

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:3

fading vale
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I run second with with fire nades so I'm pretty limited down the line but it works out

fading vale
jagged geyser
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bet

fading vale
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dodge toughness is just..... goated

south folio
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extremely free toughness without an on-kill condition

jagged geyser
south folio
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it's a very nice generalist toughness talent that also provides a lot of toughness, and it's very nice against ranged enemies

fading vale
quasi marsh
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Just don't look at them and they're harmless!

jagged geyser
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if you cant see them they cant see you

fading vale
visual stream
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Gunners when they pull up to the function and there's four chastise zealots

jagged geyser
fading vale
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you can get by without TWBS on hsword but with it the game is 1000x more fun

jagged geyser
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Got it

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now furry of the faithful, x2 charges

fading vale
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yup

jagged geyser
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and youre a big blazing piety guy yeah?

fading vale
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nope

jagged geyser
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oh shit

fading vale
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only on appropriate weapons which are limited and still I'm not a fan of the design of the node

fleet zealot
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furry of the faithful

fading vale
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hsword best bet is either marty or momentum but for that build I would say momentum

jagged geyser
quasi marsh
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There are canon furries in 40k

jagged geyser
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which modifier at the bottom?

quasi marsh
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I don't see what the discrepancy is

fading vale
fleet zealot
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martyrdom is great

south folio
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the on dodge modifier lets you rack up momentum stacks while you're in combat instead of you having to run around to generate stacks

fading vale
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I would just prefer to have bfte if I was going marty, but you could certainly do it with that build too

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don't need to go full degen I guess lol

jagged geyser
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im too spastic to run around with low health

fading vale
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well the point is more that it's harder to lose health

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and you get stronger when you do

south folio
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at least zealot has until death and holy rev to counterbalance that risk

quasi marsh
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If you take the right nodes you can even tank sniper shots pretty easily with marty

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But you don't get hit on purpose no

fading vale
#

some people shout about low health marty but just ignore them

jagged geyser
#

does anyone use the autopistol or we revolvin round these parts

quasi marsh
#

I have an old one from the pinning fire days

#

It sucks

#

Use something else

south folio
#

nah, it got left behind in patch 13

fading vale
#

shotguns, brautos, zarona revolver, flamer, IAGs

quasi marsh
#

I suggest ciag

#

If you want a shredder autopistol

#

That doesn't suck

fading vale
#

I suggest kant shotty

jagged geyser
#

i have the grippy from a while ago

#

also this is so fun for no reason

ripe quest
void bison
jagged geyser
#

i'm liking this

#

also if any of you wants to play at some point i'm always down when i'm not at work or gym or staring at the wall

#

and thanks again for all the help, you guys are super cool

maiden path
#

what would u guys if hadron could play bass guitar

fleet zealot
coarse birch
royal vortex
#

woe

maiden path
coarse birch
#

woe

sharp zodiac
#

Why do I have to actually solve questions

#

I wasn't even paying attention to the lesson and I got em all right

coarse birch
#

damn

#

built different

solar gorge
#

this mf playing who wants to be a millionaire

coarse birch
#

warframe got that built in now ig

solar gorge
#

isn't that the game for people sexually attracted to robots

coarse birch
#

i do not know

#

i know its grindy

#

and i know luna likes it

#

those are the only 2 things i know

#

well and that is has robots

royal vortex
#

implode

coarse birch
#

wtf

royal vortex
coarse birch
#

wow

royal vortex
#

this is so bizarre i almost dont know who dragged what

coarse birch
#

hits me with the implode into murder clip

royal vortex
#

i think i dragged it left with me

#

and u dodged the same way

coarse birch
#

you must have

#

yeah i think it was just

#

unfort timing

royal vortex
#

it was not intentional murder

coarse birch
#

also when you record stuff does it record everything and then you just cut it down/delete uneventful games

#

or do you just set your clips to set a really long period of time

royal vortex
#

shadowplay has the default clip time set to 5 mins

coarse birch
#

ah ok

royal vortex
#

i hit my clip hotkey way more than i should and i normally just skip to the end to figure out what i wanted to clip

#

most of them are deleted

#

without me figuring out why i hit the button

coarse birch
#

AMD has a similar thing but it records the games, however this obv takes up space quickly

frank night
coarse birch
#

so i was trying to think of how to clip like 10 minutes

#

and then i remembered i can just change the clip length

royal vortex
#

yea

#

the 5 min clip length is p nice for solo clutches at least

coarse birch
#

yeah i brought it up because you posted arcos clutch

#

that was like 7 mins

royal vortex
#

that is 2 separate clips stringed together

coarse birch
#

ah

royal vortex
#

although i dont think ive ever seen anything more impressive from a disgusting knife user

#

(i would never)

coarse birch
#

that might have been the most impressive thing ive seen like ever

#

live

#

at least in DT

#

dude was gaming

royal vortex
#

ive had some pretty insane moments in solo scenarios but ive p much never even been in a position to 1v1 a boss like that

coarse birch
#

having knife actually helped there

royal vortex
#

the wisdom of crab was flowing through him

coarse birch
#

by some miracle

north sedge
#

the most impressive knife user i saw was the guy who would not stop shit talking the vet for taking vraks (pre13) while doing less than half his dmg. at one point he saw me on psyker, surrounded by maulers, zoomed in and gave each one a lil stabberino for bleed then zoomed off, leaving me alone with the very alive maulers. beautiful soul

royal vortex
#

the classic

sharp zodiac
#

Thanks stalker

coarse birch
#

truly the best teammate

sharp zodiac
#

Been in this campaign so far for 2 hours

royal vortex
#

second wind is borderline competitive with current ogryn toughness regen and old vet confirmed kill (w/o unwavering)

sharp zodiac
#

Now I'm back in school

obtuse stirrup
#

See when I go knife pervert I'm already feeling embarrassed that I'm playing a bad teamplay build so I try to be as helpful to my team as possible to make up for it lol

coarse birch
#

yeah second wind is pretty crazy

#
  • blood redemption while your killing stuff
royal vortex
#

15% on dodge with 0.5s cooldown is fkin CRACKED

obtuse stirrup
#

If a teammate goes down i see it as a personal failure to not have removed the threat that downed them

coarse birch
#

in a game whewre you are never not dodging

obtuse stirrup
#

Can't imagine just letting a bunch of ragers go nuts on somebody lol

solar gorge
#

it's called a tactical distraction

royal vortex
#

the only time i use knife is on bolter vet because u can sprint infinitely

#

(and u dont have other weapons with similar mobility)

coarse birch
#

not melee at least

royal vortex
#

yea

solar gorge
#

i'll play bolter vet when they release bolt pistol

royal vortex
#

(never)

sharp zodiac
#

Time to Hunt the furry

#

Next the Scalie

solar gorge
#

based

coarse birch
#

let mankar know

calm salmon
#

kinda hard to tell with the amount of enemies in auric damnation

#

and with second wind on. ABD - always be dodging

frank night
solar gorge
#

befriending your stalker is a faster solution

royal vortex
sharp zodiac
#

Bad dog BAD DOG

fading vale
#

it's kind of fun you need to account for angle with airstrikes

coarse birch
#

did you get the QTE

solar gorge
#

too busy screenshotting

north sedge
fading vale
#

lol

#

airstrike aka my fist

coarse birch
#

superman punch

fading vale
#

the number of damn chargers and bile titans on 9

sharp zodiac
#

Furry down

#

Scalie next

delicate shadow
ripe quest
north sedge
#

i prefer 626 + HP myself

light holly
#

The creeping barrage drop is the stuff of nightmares for me

ripe quest
#

Dude imagine if HD2 had diagonal inputs

#

the orbital laser is just a full circle

#

That'd be kinda fun to input honestly

coarse birch
#

people gonna be playing HD2 on a hitbox lol

calm salmon
#

it did for awhile

#

dunno if it needs to be an actual dodge now

#

wait, I might have that backwards with second wind? I dunno

north sedge
lusty turtle
#

Do the bugs get reversals?

coarse birch
#

wake up DP

north sedge
#

Chargers just armor through it

coarse birch
#

what if they have bar/meter

lusty turtle
#

thats fucked up

north sedge
#

Parry

coarse birch
#

tbf he was using knife i should have known

lusty turtle
#

also why is josho a Caribbean island now

coarse birch
#

stan said fuck haiti

#

and he meant josho

north sedge
#

He got colonized

lusty turtle
#

rip

sharp zodiac
#

Yes

coarse birch
#

yes

median steeple
solar gorge
#

he knows

solar gorge
#

good gif

coarse birch
#

great gif

frosty herald
#

I have a feeling ill finally kill malenia and elden beast in this playthrough

coarse birch
#

wait

#

did you not kill elden beast on your first playthrough

#

i do recommend fighting malenia though great boss

#

(if you know how to dodge waterfowl)

frosty herald
#

Never managed to beat malenia or elden beast

#

I know that you can use freezing pots for waterfowl

coarse birch
#

ive never done that actually

#

but yeah you can proc bleed or frost and knock her out

frosty herald
#

Its one of my unfinished things in elden ring

#

I never could beat them but with the build i have i might actualy do it

coarse birch
#

malenia took me 10 hours my first playthrough so

#

i do get it

#

shes very fun once you really learn her

#

for me at least

#

plenty of people dont like her

#

the way her stagger works can be a little annoying though as she tends to eat poise breaks

north sedge
#

shes a jerk but the feeling you get when beating her is pretty great

coarse birch
#

despite being a top like 5 ER boss for me she does have some bad design

frosty herald
#

Putting lady tomoe in elden ring was not a good idea

coarse birch
#

like waterfowl is not very well designed move

#

not very intuitive

#

as it changes based on where you are when she does it, and even if you get the ideal range its still a weird dodge

#

not something you would easily find on your own

frosty herald
#

Also replaying elden ring before the dlc drops

coarse birch
#

im excited to learn the new bosses

#

and see how they are

frosty herald
#

Im speculating it will get the sotfs treatement like ds2

ripe quest
#

@fading vale I recall you saying you could speed up the wait time when the servers are full by joining someone, whenever my friend does it their game freezes w/ the audio still playing and nothing seems to happen. Any insight?

fading vale
#

nope, seems to work for the most part with people I play with, well I guess it worked better when joining through steam without the game open

north sedge
#

if you wait a bit it can resolve itself

royal vortex
#

it worked for me the first time i did it

#

and then i had the black screen freeze w/ audio

glacial stratus
#

@josho_ I Tried the helldivers...its fun but the weapons they start me with SUCK. How long does it take to unlock good weapons?

#

@royal vortex

royal vortex
#

the breaker is the meta gun by far and is in one of the first pages on the battlepass

glacial stratus
#

its pg 3 I think

#

or 4

royal vortex
#

autocannon is cracked, so is railgun but thats a bit later on

glacial stratus
#

I am on pg 2

royal vortex
#

it didnt take me that long to get breaker but i played with ppl who threw me into dif 7 immediately lmao

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

the basic assault rifle is decent, digilence is ok vs bots

drifting wolf
#

enjoy using the breaker shotgun and nothing else forever

glacial stratus
#

@royal vortex also, there are no audio cues when the bugs attack? No opportunity to dodge?

royal vortex
#

yea its a lil weird

#

i like fighting the robots a lot more

buoyant pecan
frank night
#

he fears his natural predator

north sedge
#

i dont use breaker

buoyant pecan
#

I hear the slug shotty has damage fall off in HD2. wondering how many other weapons do as well

vocal pulsar
#

my fav weapon is the big machine gun

north sedge
#

the game has volumetric modeling of all ballistics

glacial stratus
ripe quest
north sedge
#

procjectile shape/drag etc matter

buoyant pecan
zealous basin
#

yawndivers 2

north sedge
#

tldr (yes falloff is a thing, so is angle, type of ballistic)

fading vale
#

I really enjoy the DMR

#

which is pretty early on

sharp zodiac
#

And that's done

buoyant pecan
zealous basin
#

r u a girl

tropic harbor
#

Show us your ankles

maiden path
#

mgs2 first game to let u get pissed on

#

revolutionary

zealous basin
coarse birch
#

How often is there people waiting outside a single person bathroom for you

zealous basin
#

pretty often im kind of a big deal

sharp zodiac
#

Finally no more ugly child face

#

Why is she cross eyed

#

Wtf

coarse birch
#

Yeah why does she look so derpy

zealous basin
#

.o

sharp zodiac
#

Now she looks normal but in the worst way

coarse birch
#

Your very gold

maiden path
#

lotus aint give them glasses 😭

zealous basin
#

lotus gimme milky

median steeple
#

calm down there pragerU

buoyant pecan
#

love that i wasnt the only one who saw them as cross eyed

zealous basin
#

erm

sharp zodiac
spare talon
sharp zodiac
#

WHAT IS IT

spare talon
#

zariman

sharp zodiac
#

Oh

spare talon
#

in fact everything that came from that update is actually goated not just the tileset

sharp zodiac
#

I'm doing that after veilbreaker for archon

#

Hunting

spare talon
wicked pollen
#

I come into zealot chat and see wf operator fashion, figures

median steeple
#

wait you did new war before veilbreaker?

spare talon
spare talon
median steeple
#

oh wait Im having a stroke

#

I mixed archons with kuvas

spare talon
#

you meant war within

#

?

median steeple
#

yeah Im having a brain moment

#

I forgor VB is with the #1 homie

sharp zodiac
#

Just gonna complete this sortie then take a break

ripe quest
median steeple
#

I hope you have fun with whisper in the walls my fav quest

spare talon
# sharp zodiac I'm doing that after veilbreaker for archon

but yeah some notable things you can get from the zariman
molt augmented (warframe arcane that gives strength on kill, +60% total at the cap of 250 kills with a maxed arcane)
molt efficiency (warframe arcane that gives duration for each second you have shields, +36% at the cap of 6 seconds with a maxed arcane)
cascadia flare (secondary arcane that gives damage for each heat status you inflict, up to like +400% at 40 stacks or something)
eternal eradicate (operator amp arcane that gives damage for just using an operator ability)
eternal onslaught (operator amp arcane that gives a huge amount of crit chance when depleting operators void energy)
amp arcane adapter (amps already come with 1 arcane slot, which means adding one more allows both the mentioned amp arcanes to be equipped at the same time, amp damage go brrr)

plus all the arcanes from this area have a servicable chance to drop from special enemies here, making it even more rewarding since theyre really good

sharp zodiac
spare talon
#

i literally just bought the game

#

ive been here for 30 min so far

sterile stone
#

And the only thing he says

#

"It's not delivery, it's Digornio"

#

Then fades back into the void

sharp zodiac
#

Well now I want some digiorno

solar gorge
#

rip

solar gorge
#

NA peak hour is unplayable

median steeple
#

oh god I want it so bad

spare talon
#

i saw a comic recently where someone was delivering pizza and the person recieving it says "but thats digiorno" and the pizza delivery guy says thank you and fades away

spare talon
sharp zodiac
spare talon
#

i may have been able to play some if i wasnt literally 100%ing persona 3 reload up until now during this month

sterile stone
#

That freezer taste never really goes away

spare talon
#

and now that ive done that im now able to join

#

right fucking here

#

i dont even know what to do in the meantime

#

i could play darktide but helldivers being on a loading screen is somehow taking up the processing power of an entire game

sterile stone
#

I'ma tell you rn

#

There is no log in que

#

You literally have to keep opening and closing the game til it lets you in

spare talon
#

dude what the fuck

sterile stone
#

And hope to god a spot is open

ripe quest
#

just press buttons

spare talon
#

the fucking loading screen is making my gpu hotter than auric missions

sterile stone
solar gorge
#

the anticheat is bricking his pc

ripe quest
#

I have a macro that just spams all of my buttons and I get in within 5 minutes.

#

Sometimes it takes like 3 attempts

solar gorge
#

what's the best power sword variant btw

#

i forgot

spare talon
#

i think the 6 is the one people like now

ripe quest
#

VI has the poke on the push attack and the III is all sweeps

#

Well

#

the VI is all sweeps too but it's got a poke

#

It also has some mechanic where you can activate while blocking or smth

solar gorge
#

uh

#

that's really it

#

nothing more meaningfull

ripe quest
#

I wouldn't know, haven't looked into the Pissblades in a while.

solar gorge
#

i'm trying to make one because it's the one kind of melee i haven't used

ripe quest
#

The poke on the VI does a touch bit more than the III's PA

spare talon
#

no........

#

they didnt.......

lusty turtle
#

Vgud foe single target

ripe quest
spare talon
#

i shit you not

#

its in the files

#

AppData\Roaming\Arrowhead\Helldivers2

#

user_settings

lusty turtle
#

wat that do

solar gorge
#

what's the youtube vid

ripe quest
#

It's a rick roll

lusty turtle
#

oh GatorSleep

spare talon
#

they actually put a rickroll in the game files

#

i think i just got in

#

now i just gotta wait till i can open graphics settings so its not at 13 fps anymore

lusty turtle
#

gonna get the devs to crash you to desktop

spare talon
#

so im still geting 20 fps and ive already progressed to the lowest graphics settings

#

my rx 7600 is capping out on usage

north sedge
#

should have sprung for a good video card like a 3dfx voodoo2

calm salmon
#

which is insane, but you know, I applaud devs when they think everyone has a 4090

spare talon
# calm salmon for some reason the game defaults to 200% render resolution

i did finally find that though, which its anyones guess why it wasnt in the graphics tab
but it still only gives me 30-40 fps with everything else on the lowest settings when i drop it to balanced, and about 60 when i drop it to the lowest possible setting, while looking like im attempting to run it on a mac book air

sterile stone
spare talon
#

this is actually really frustrating honestly

#

i dont know why its being like this

calm salmon
#

I have a 1080ti and r5 5600x

#

What hardware are you running?

#

With a mix of settings I can get around 80fps

spare talon
calm salmon
spare talon
#

awesome
trying another thing caused the game to close
now i have to wait until i get back into the game to continue to try and get it to run well

lusty turtle
#

just gotta wait

spare talon
#

ive read multiple comments about what the preformance was like on those cards though, and fps was never mentioned as an issue, it was always 80+ fps on medium to high

sterile stone
#

You're gonna have to wait bruv

#

They're trying to get with providers n shit to upgrade servers

spare talon
#

crashes were mentioned on those cards, but there also was a drivers update within the last 3 days that stats that it fixed that for helldivers specifically, which is the issues that ive been reading about the 7000 cards

sterile stone
#

Cross your fingers I guess

median steeple
#

90% of helldivers quit before getting in

coarse birch
#

Yeah its unfort

#

Im just waiting for that reason

median steeple
#

Twofort

coarse birch
#

Once they fix the 7000 series card issues ill try it

spare dome
#

i really empathize with the devs

#

i am 'the computer guy' in my social circle

#

i told people to buy this game

#

now im their fucking troubleshooter

sterile stone
#

It's wild how alot of this stems from

#

These guys just not anticipating their game would be popular

spare dome
#

i didnt either

#

i knew the game would kick ass

#

because hd1 also kicked ass

sterile stone
#

HD1 wasn't a big success like this tho

spare dome
#

but that game never moved copies like this, even in relative 2015 terms

sterile stone
#

Yeah

spare dome
#

this is now the biggest coop success since L4D

#

which like

sterile stone
#

Like imagine peaking at 6.6k in one game

spare dome
#

ok damn

sterile stone
#

Then shooting to over 700k

#

And still hitting new peaks

spare dome
#

we're probably looking at 1.5mil

sterile stone
#

I dunno man

spare dome
#

for cumulative peak connection attempts and concurrents

sterile stone
#

You think HD 2 will overtake Palworld?

spare dome
#

but sony never publishes their numbers

#

well, hopefully not if the servers are like this lol

sterile stone
spare dome
#

im happy i bought it at launch and got a good number of days in

spare dome
#

yea fr

fading vale
#

the tech is have a friend in the game

sterile stone
#

After reading all the negative reviews

fading vale
#

usually 1 of us can get in

#

and the others can join

spare dome
#

it gets me 'good results'

#

Meaning 10mins lmao

fading vale
#

works after a couple tries for me if not the first

spare dome
#

Instead of hours

sterile stone
#

People are dead ass selling spots to get into the helldivers 2 que

#

$25,000

tropic harbor
#

10mins for one game? So it’s the same wait time as overwatch but for the opposite reason

spare dome
#

i applaud any opportunity to harmlessly grift morons

#

well the thing is

tropic harbor
#

Elon musk would buy it

spare dome
#

the game fucking rocks and the servers are pretty functional once youre in

spare dome
#

otherwise nobody would even try to queue

maiden path
#

erm buy me helldivers

sterile stone
#

They're gonna end up getting another issue once they add vehicles

#

That's gonna cause another spike

drifting wolf
#

mechs lol

sterile stone
#

For real

#

Everyone and their mother is frothing at the mouth for mechs

visual stream
#

The four-man armored trucks with turrets on the sides psyker_chaos

fading vale
#

I mean hell there were like 8 of us that sat in queue for 1-2 hours the other night and we still played

visual stream
#

Miss that thing

spare dome
sterile stone
#

I'm just wating til there's more stratagems. I got everything else just about

#

Max level

fading vale
sterile stone
#

At like 9 am

#

And by the time you've closed it

#

10 hours passed

spare dome
#

we shouldve been getting new content this week lul

#

that was their original intent

sterile stone
#

And it only felt lik you played 2 missions

spare dome
#

ikr

sterile stone
#

The game is like crack

#

Once you pick it up

#

It's hard to put down

spare dome
#

"Fuck me that was quite the fight, better see how much mission time we have left."
38:30 remains
"The fuck?"

fading vale
#

diff 9 automatons snowballs so fast if you let them call in dropships

#

man

stone fern
#

guess threat level

fading vale
#

heresy

light holly
stone fern
#

T2

light holly
fading vale
#

....

light holly
#

Yeah, I'm not suprised

stone fern
#

3 people got barreled

light holly
fading vale
#

lol

sterile stone
#

But ancient also taught me something

#

The longer you drag a mission on

light holly
sterile stone
#

The harder it gets

fading vale
light holly
#

At least the auto cannon deals with hulks

drifting wolf
#

yeah

sterile stone
spare dome
#

Fuck those laser towers also

fading vale
#

I see

sterile stone
#

The game rewards you for getting in and getting out

fading vale
#

ha ha ha

spare dome
#

And yes there is a timed threat system

#

It do go up

fading vale
#

damn

sterile stone
spare dome
#

The rewards for speed are pretty shit tho

sterile stone
#

The best way to maximize loot and obj

fading vale
#

I just autocannon the turrets down

sterile stone
#

Is to split teams

fading vale
#

I could use a railgun but that's not cool

sterile stone
#

Rail gun nullifies most threats

spare dome
sterile stone
#

Turn your brain off type of gun

fading vale
#

yeah railgun is too relatively good and less interesting to use imo

sterile stone
#

Plasma gun shreds automatons

spare talon
coarse birch
#

crashes

#

cant speak on the FPS issues

fading vale
#

haven't seen anyone complain about fps really

drifting wolf
#

i don't like railgun because i think its levels of swag are too low in comparison to all the shoulder-mounted heavy weapon shit. i won't deny that it's arguably the best weapon stratagem in the game, but it's not very interesting.

spare talon
# coarse birch crashes

3 days ago a driver update dropped that supposedly GREATLY helps with that, look up amd adrenaline helldivers 2

coarse birch
#

i can see if i can get in although i dont own the game atm

sterile stone
#

The spear is anti automaton

#

It blows up tanks

#

Buildings

#

And mechs

spare talon
#

ive personally been dealing with 30ish fps on the lowest settings on a 7600x, which i seem to be the only one dealing with that

sterile stone
#

I can destroy a outpost

#

From miles away

maiden path
coarse birch
#

i would imagine a 7600xt would run the game

drifting wolf
#

i haven't used spear much, it's kind of finicky to use but when it gets a proper hit, it hits hard

maiden path
#

erm where my dbd fans at

sterile stone
#

Bro said dbd

maiden path
#

yes

sterile stone
#

I'm sick

drifting wolf
#

my condolences

spare talon
maiden path
#

i do enjoy a little bit of killer gameplay every once in awhile

#

im fr like him

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expect for da killing ppl

coarse birch
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very strange

spare talon
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however i do think ive fixed it, now that i managed to get back in
i launched it with dx11 instead of dx12

sterile stone
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Let me check your freezer buddy

maiden path
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i do not kill people

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it is illegal