catfish said theyre working on the next update which fills me with alot more promise than just a patch
#zealot-class
frosty herald
fading vale
and it's kind of hard to make a bad build, but just make one and ask for advice here
buoyant pecan
catfish said theyre working on the next update which fills me with alot more pro...
last time they said some shit like this. it was the fucking release of the OG Crusher
coarse birch
and it's kind of hard to make a bad build, but just make one and ask for advice ...
Gameslantern moment
buoyant pecan
steady void
Cool thx. I'm trying this momentum build atm, pretty fun. Might try the crit one too
fading vale
special L1 wooooooo
buoyant pecan
frosty herald
Can bandai namco make a dark version of their intro screen
coarse birch
I loved CC stick
molten magnet
north sedge
coarse birch
Old duelling sword too
sharp zodiac
Time to face off the woman with face cancer
coarse birch
Lmk if you win
steady void
I've been rocking Lasgun since I can just tap on baddies heads, Bolter feels so fun too
vocal pulsar
i dont reccomend las gun on zealot
coarse birch
Become one with the suppression
fading vale
the typical way people start the game is thinking that primarily shooting ranged is the correct option
but over time you will learn all your options and effectively engaging them in melee (zealots best role)
vocal pulsar
las rifle incentivises hanging back, ADSing (aiming down sights) and being non-aggressive, which is the opposite of what you should be doing as zealot
if you just really like the feel of las rifle on zealot, use las pistol instead
much better for zealot playstyle of running and gunning
ripe quest
Well, you can be aggressive with the Lasguns but the issues arise when suppression is involved.
lusty turtle
just hipfire the lasgun
coarse birch
Based
fading vale
also inherently lasguns are slower and don't really do more damage than something like a laspistol anyways
ripe quest
just hipfire the lasgun
lusty turtle
can't suffer suppresion if you don't aim down sights
lusty turtle
also inherently lasguns are slower and don't really do more damage than somethin...
which i'm hoping the pistols get nerfed one day 🙏
south folio
and laspistols doing stuff on bodyshots cuz of crits
steady void
Yeah Ive been hipfire, and use it to pick off snipers and such, otherwise im running around with the chainsword
fading vale
just don't get caught in the sit back and shoot trap
ripe quest
also inherently lasguns are slower and don't really do more damage than somethin...
The Lasguns will be better for Maniac, otherwise it's in Laspistol's favor without any finesse increases.
fading vale
yeah maniac ragers are really the only downside of laspistol
coarse birch
I would say melee them but that's actually sketch
fading vale
I never shoot mutants unless I have an auto weapon that goes brrrr
ripe quest
The Ia will get rid of Mutants fairly fast, only a bit under Brauto speed.
fading vale
not to say you can't shoot ragers with a laspistol, just gonna take several shots
coarse birch
Has the mobility to keep distance at least
fading vale
the maniac balancing knob is a weird one in this game
coarse birch
Yeah
Mutants and ragers are in a weird spot
Mutants arent really that scary unless they bring you into fire and are very fragile
Ragers dont even reach you unless theres 30
faint vapor
I like mutants they feel about right for a disabler
in that they don't do shit unless combo'd with another
ripe quest
btw we're at 9 hours of not being able to play Helldivers
faint vapor
same
I tried to restart my game because I didn't get two full missions worth of rewards
so many super credit caches wasted...
north sedge
nah i was playing till around 4 hours ago, then i made the grave mistake of doing anything else
ripe quest
When I saw "we" I mean myself. I've been staring at the "server limit reached" thing for 9 hours
north sedge
the royal we
ripe quest
faint vapor
no NSFW please. We're a Bionicles community here
spare dome
yey i just got in
ivory marlin
I love legos
spare dome
my cape flutters for democracy
ivory marlin
Real
fleet zealot
no NSFW please. We're a Bionicles community here
I wanted to bionocle too
But just lego
minor sage
When I saw "we" I mean myself. I've been staring at the "server limit reached" t...
If you're stuck in that screen
Just keep spamming keys
Until you get in
Takes 5-10 min usually
ripe quest
I'm gonna break my computer
ripe quest
If you're stuck in that screen
Ain't no fucking way that worked
I was like, "I got no time I may as well try the bait" and it worked
calm salmon
I wanted to bionocle too
based. bionicle were amazing
vocal pulsar
He dead??????
ripe quest
He dead??????
vocal pulsar
no how id he died ?? ?? how flat?? kill
ripe quest
no how id he died ?? ?? how flat?? kill
vocal pulsar
lusty turtle
soosig
coarse birch
Soosig
livid siren
soosig
spare dome
man bots solo is ugh
spare dome
i need four more liberty powered arms
fleet zealot
i need to find a way to get 40$
to play hd2 before the fad drops
otherwise it's next pay in march
spare dome
march huh
fuck the hype also
it'll still play awesome in two weeks or a month or whatever
cept the servers wont be exploding
minor sage
Ain't no fucking way that worked
Lmao did u think i was trolling you
ripe quest
Yes
minor sage
😹
ripe quest
Dude that's some CoD Zombies bullshit of course I'd think you're trolling
"Oh dude if you spam buttons you'll load faster"
That's textbook
spare dome
hit alt f4 on the splash screen to skip the queue
minor sage
Lmao
hushed knoll
"Oh dude if you spam buttons you'll load faster"
Hi Exhillious 
fleet zealot
ripe quest
Hi Exhillious <:blobwaver:542837222387482663>
Stan you've said hi to me like 3 times already
ripe quest
Half-convinced he has a crush or smth
coarse birch
Very possible
Thats why he doesnt respond immediately
Hes nervous
Exhil did you see stans messages that nearly killed josho
ripe quest
I haven't no
north sedge
sterile stone
shuold i start crack shipping zealot chat?
ripe quest
He has to have been arrested for this
lusty turtle
I think it was yesterday
and to think we almost killed him again today
coarse birch
median steeple
A cock accent
coarse birch
and to think we almost killed him again today
We did burn his eyes
median steeple
What was he trying to say
lusty turtle
he wanted a cock accent
royal vortex
and to think we almost killed him again today
evil
royal vortex
i cannot help it
royal vortex
the first time this happened to me was like 4 years ago when a former friend posted an image of a wire stock romanian AK
and captioned it with
"perfect for cqb abortions"
and i just fucking LOST it
royal vortex
i dont remember
median steeple
kind sapphire
Do the volley fire penances work with executioners stance?
coarse birch
Josho starts laughing for no reason
We all question it
Then rip ears
Josho laughs for 5 minutes
kind sapphire
whoops wrong classes channel
median steeple
Do the volley fire penances work with executioners stance?
Yes they do
Execution stance is just the upgraded version
And don't worry about it this channel is prob where you're gonna get the best info
For most things
kind sapphire
Yes they do
ty
coarse birch
Yeah volley fire is just the old name for exe stance
proven thicket
lyric ingot
is this usable?
ripe quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiSQanQ8k5E
calm salmon
is this usable?
change terrifying barrage to pinning fire
change sprint efficiency to flak
ripe quest
is this usable?
Depends on standards, it isn't great. Do what Puri said to get the most out of it.
calm salmon
with raking fire it won't be too bad
more of a vet weapon cause zealot's stealth is kinda dooki outside of repositioning immediately or gigabonking a boss asap
does the trick though
it'll get you use out of raking fire, which will help your ammo economy
fleet zealot
fair igloo
Just keep spamming keys
does htis work
north sedge
if you have a friend playing and they have room, joining from friends list before launching the game helps
little thicket
The zealot brought nosh
mint imp
irl photo of a doomseeker 5 zealot
ripe quest
does htis work
It's worked 4 times now yeah
fair igloo
i tried it and it didnt work :(
ripe quest
How long did you try it?
north sedge
Gotta go at least 10 hours
fair igloo
How long did you try it?
for around 10 mins
zealous basin
ionic nymph
I like raking on my las pistol on my knife zel
I got raking 4
It's fun
It's fun to use
shy river
The 60% on back shots does sound juicy but... like usually you're already close enough to go stab happy if you're behind them, and I want my ranged for shooters
fleet zealot
human i want to stash string and plastic please help
mint imp
ur making me want ferrets
fleet zealot
ur making me want ferrets
i wouldn't recomnend it unless you have spare cash and time
tropic terrace
fleet zealot
they are great pets but they are more work than a cat or dog, you need to ferret proof the house which means no escapes, no way for them to get too high/into things they shouldn't
tropic terrace
crusher below it is the exact same except penetration is swapped with damage
mint imp
yeah, i heard they can get into everything
fleet zealot
you need to line the floor with soft things around beds/couches/any area cause they don't have a concept of fall damage
or well, some don't, some ferrets have more braincells than others
ivory marlin
fleet zealot
but i've seen one ferret yeet from the top of a bed to the hard floor without a care and while it might be okay a few times, they can hurt themselves
minor sage
i tried it and it didnt work :(
Tldr the way their servers work is that they set a max limit on players, so each time you press a key you "attempt to connect" and eventually you'll get someone's spot who just left @ripe quest
That's why you can keep trying
fleet zealot
2ndly, you can't just get one ferret, they were bred extremely hard into socializing and they need at least one fellow ferret to keep up with their energy, you might be okay with 1 if you work from home and can focus on it all day, but even then, there is ferret things a human can't do
zealous basin
does waiting for the opening cinematic to finish not work anymore
minor sage
And thats why sometimes it takes like 10 min
zealous basin
that used to get me in every time consistently
mint imp
ill just stick to watching ferret videos on instagram then
fleet zealot
3rdly,t hey just require more stimulation and watchful eye, they love stashing and playing with objects which is good when it's the toys you give them, but terrible if it's your wallet/keys, or food
plastic tubes for them to run through, boxes of macaroni, rice, packing peanuts
minor sage
Ferrets also smell real bad iirc
zealous basin
also u have to get a big ol mallet
minor sage
So if you want to have any other ppl in your house
zealous basin
to thwap them upside the head with
fleet zealot
Ferrets also smell real bad iirc
this usually isn't an issue in modern day
most ferrets get descented the same time they get castrated
they will have that animal owner smell, but it's more on level of a dog/cat than a true ferret
fleet zealot
also u have to get a big ol mallet
big ole inflatable mallet right
RIGHT
anyways, one last warning, ferrets, like dogs and cats, are victims of a horrible pet milling industry, and their lifespans are hit extremely hard, even compared to the others. A normal ferret will live 5 to 10 years, a milled ferret is likely to die around 2-3
zealous basin
anyways, one last warning, ferrets, like dogs and cats, are victims of a horribl...
nah animals have strong heads
theyre built for it
fleet zealot
Please research and support safe and ethical sources
fleet zealot
nah animals have strong heads
ur an animal
zealous basin
fleet zealot
zealous basin
^me when i see big boobs
fleet zealot
^me when i see big boobs
fleet zealot
ugh pet mills is one of the things I hate so much i get angry over
makes me wanna kick someone profitting off it inbetween the legs
fair igloo
Please fatshark i am BEGGING u to fix the ranged unit knockback
north sedge
🤔
south folio
rip no TWBS
vocal pulsar
Please fatshark i am BEGGING u to fix the ranged unit knockback
gunner knockback is meh. but reaper knockback is cancer
south folio
the knockback makes it pretty annoying to almost impossible to fight groups of reapers
vocal pulsar
Please fatshark i am BEGGING u to fix the ranged unit knockback
but yeah running thammer without TWBS is asking for pain
south folio
i have died three games in a row trying to melee reapers as vet
fair igloo
the amount of times i've been knocked into overheads or sniper shots by ranged units is getting annoying
fair igloo
but yeah running thammer without TWBS is asking for pain
it's a crusher :)
little thicket
I hate that both stuns, suppresion exist on the same enemy
fair igloo
i just make it look like a thammer
south folio
I hate that both stuns, suppresion exist on the same enemy
melee and ranged combat being extremely annoying without TWBS/Determined
south folio
and the tankiest ranged enemy also being the most annoying to deal with
and also potentially spawning in numbers of 5+
truly, this is the interactive gameplay i seek by being blown by a 100mph wind tunnel as the ground beneath me turns into ice and i slide
little thicket
Chaos spawn, trappers, gunners, crushers/maulers, poxbursters are usually the enemies that lead to frustrating deaths
Crushers, maulers is just their vertical hitbox being complete wack
Slam hammer 5m over head, get downed???
vocal pulsar
Once I had 2 reapers, on either side of me and there was just nothing I could do
Just stuck inbetween
I was kept in stasis until dead
north sedge
🫦
fleet zealot
meme
The nerf gun
Sadly no complete trash
Damage scales your base damage value which is what all your bonuses calculate off of
Super soaker tier
red pollen
Why does everyone assume it’s a bug that eviscerators get half the bleed stacks from blood letter
When it’s the only chain weapon whose special cleaves everything but elites and specials
Hit 8 enemies get 46 bleed stacks
That’s why it has 6 stacks at level 4
48 stacks *
fleet zealot
Why does everyone assume it’s a bug that eviscerators get half the bleed stacks ...
It’s not a bug yea it is intentional
Who is saying it is a bug lol
red pollen
All over the forum and Reddit
fleet zealot
I think it doesnt truly matter cause bleed is a meme and you give up your cleave/crit blessing (you aint dropping rampage for it)
Reddit is the dumbest place and the forums are not much better
red pollen
Not a single comment about it says anything other than “remove blood letter from eviscerstor it’s bugged and only gives half the stacks of other chain weapons”
fleet zealot
Lol yea
People cant read
I know it is legit i just dont think it matters and it could be 16 stacks and it would still have to compete with savage sweep/shred/bloodthirsty
red pollen
I was thinking it could be nice for spamming ability cooldown on piety tree
fleet zealot
Rampage gives power (this it the real bug)
red pollen
But everything that can be cleaved dies in one hit
fleet zealot
I was thinking it could be nice for spamming ability cooldown on piety tree
Shred is just better for that purpose
red pollen
That’s what I’m thinking just for fun if nothing else
fleet zealot
Its an mk2 so atlesst you get some bleed value into bruisers
red pollen
Have so many amazing weapons at this point
fleet zealot
25% damage perks are busted
red pollen
Go maniac or flak
fleet zealot
They just overshadow every other perk besides 10% elites
Honestly i think flak, maybe cara?
But im def leaning flak
Flak enemies like bruisers you will clesve and leave bleed stacks
red pollen
Still running Bolter but dropping knife for this child so might need to change my gun and use the sword to handle carapace
fleet zealot
The perks on your held weapon give bleed stats
red pollen
Dropping knife for this build*
fleet zealot
But cara doesnt bleed really
red pollen
True
I think 25% would hit the breakpoint for one fury shred to kill this
With just a couple stacks of martyrdom then definitely
Martyrdom is trash so I’m trying to run it for fun and to change things up as I come up on my 1000th win
north sedge
🤔
fleet zealot
Martyrdom isnt trash i just dont think evi uses it as well as the other 2
Martyrdom requires a certain mindset but it is ridic tanky and scales ridic hard
fair igloo
Which revolver would be better to use? Planning to put handcannon 4 on the new one eventually probably
fleet zealot
Which revolver would be better to use? Planning to put handcannon 4 on the new o...
Honestly
Unless you find a hyperspecific breakpoint in psykanium
There is no functional difference
fleet zealot
2 damage, 0.05 second surgical difference,
fair igloo
Are numbers just numbers
fleet zealot
does the +8% crit bonus and -5% manic damage affect anything at all or
It does but
It is very tiny
Id just go around the psykanium
Mostly on the maniacs
fair igloo
why can't i just dual wield them 💔
hidden verge
does this look useful? 🤔
steep flame
Porsche just won the bathurst 2024 repco 12 hour race
fast ember
anyone with a chainsword bleed crit build?
long sluice
does this look useful? 🤔
Change both blessings and it's useable
hidden verge
thanks
sterile basalt
Which revolver would be better to use? Planning to put handcannon 4 on the new o...
2nd is very slightly better because higher crit bonus (unless 5% maniac makes a breakpoint difference)
red mesa
any news at all for upcoming content?
dense field
Nope
median steeple
Varangian guard needs you
zealous basin
vagina guard 😒
spare talon
I’ve been helldiving all day
How is it btw
I've been persona 3ing since the start of the month due to the release of reload
And I may look into helldivers when I'm done
ivory marlin
And I may look into helldivers when I'm done
The game has literally been hitting server caps
400,000 gamers
No one was expecting the game to be doing as good as its doing
Its such an amazing game
Its gonna win some awards for sure
A few bugs here and there but like the servers weren’t expecting the number of gamers
10/10 overall
Goty
hybrid path
if you want a change of pace this little guy fckn slaps. Definitely surprised me.
true kindle
any news at all for upcoming content?
No announcements but catfish and quickpaw have both confirmed that they have a lot of plans for Darktide and they are, and have been for a while now, working on the next update. They're just not ready to talk about anything yet
frank night
stan has gotten everyone
lusty turtle
no one is safe
frosty herald
I own a nutsack now
lusty turtle
make sure u keep good care of its skin
frosty herald
Told my dad explicitly to lotion the cat
My dad has papers on how to take care of its skin from the owner
nimble fiber
cute nutsack u have there
frosty herald
fading vale
I own a nutsack now
what's its name
fading vale
lol, nice
solar gorge
helldivers 2 players when the devs don't release 10 patches per hour on a weekend
hushed knoll
Are the servers still hard to get into
royal vortex
no they're flaccid now
coarse birch
@south folio 🙂
obtuse stirrup
<@297182781346152448> 🙂
No bromentum
coarse birch
BM is for the weak
south folio
<@297182781346152448> 🙂
you psychopath
coarse birch
fleet zealot
Why would nurgle followers be in the shower
coarse birch
ask josho
coarse birch
learning from my caxe already
i did actually get the idea from you
i wanted to make a single target caxe but thrust felt weird and i forgot decap existed
tbf there is probably better options than decap but i got stuck with it
frozen glen
use decimator
nimble fiber
lusty turtle
BM is for the weak
shy river
I do rashad headtaker/all or nothing plus the more DMG on no stamina talent cuz I'm a freak who wants the big number
calm salmon
A few bugs here and there but like the servers weren’t expecting the number of g...
soeajubg if bugs
speaking*
Bugs climb through terrain now if you're camping on plateaus
They straight up tunnel through the ground to kill you. I don't know if this was a secret patch, or just a new introduced bug with the server issues, but its a change that I like. Camping on plats for defensive actions still works fine, but now you have to worry about whats below you.
sonic totem
That zussy got me acting up
red mesa
No announcements but catfish and quickpaw have both confirmed that they have a l...
good to hear! took a break for a bit but def excited to play with new stuff again
acoustic dune
tf did i miss
acoustic dune
No announcements but catfish and quickpaw have both confirmed that they have a l...
they adding neko in darktide
by god
fleet zealot
hidden verge
what gun should I bring along with hamme?
fleet zealot
what gun should I bring along with hamme?
las pistol, auto pistol
infantry autogun, mk3 headhunter
hidden verge
thanks guys 
maybe i'll try those pistol, just for something new
just tried revolver, have to rely on someone else to handle maulers and ragers in mael
visual stream
No announcements but catfish and quickpaw have both confirmed that they have a l...
me patiently waiting for content because the game is plenty fun
gray ice
I can wait no longer
I've started setting fire to orphanages and small animals in preparation for new content
coarse birch
true
no other games exist i must be told about the upcoming content so i can tell FS how its bad and they should feel bad
frosty herald
Im just playing other stuff
ripe quest
Tldr the way their servers work is that they set a max limit on players, so each...
That's about what I figured when it worked.
ripe quest
No announcements but catfish and quickpaw have both confirmed that they have a l...
Fatshark about to hit us with a 2nd relaunch.
gray ice
no other games exist i must be told about the upcoming content so i can tell FS ...
How Dare they not entertain me 24/7
frosty herald
Also not crutching on soreseals or scarseal cause i like to habe defense
gray ice
Didn't they know that's the job
coarse birch
i mostly use seals in level 1 runs
gray ice
Another elden ring playthru sounds kinda good actually
coarse birch
so i can wield stuff
ripe quest
no other games exist i must be told about the upcoming content so i can tell FS ...
How DARE Fatshark run out of CONTENT! THIS IS A LIVE SERVICE GAME!!!!!! I have 1.2k hours and I should be CATERED TO, I SPENT $70 I SHOULD BE GETTING 7 YEARS OF CONTENT!!!!!
frosty herald
never used that AOW
With a magic infused lvl 21 knight greatsword and 41 int i do 1200 damage with the first 2 hits
gray ice
Ur crazy for no seals tho
coarse birch
id rather use like ritual sword + charge attack talisman
gray ice
I start every run with 80k souls and radagons soreseal
coarse birch
etc
gray ice
The free stats too good starting out
coarse birch
if i dont have 4 good talismans over it
ill use it
you can also get radagons seal easily in fort faroth i will admit
that helps
i think i used it it in my rl1 +0 run
frosty herald
I have radagon charm the turtle regen charm and spelldrake +2
gray ice
I get rid of it by like end of liurnia, but early game it stacks with godricks rune
coarse birch
turtle charm is p goated
gray ice
10 in every stat for existing is just
gray ice
Chefs kiss
coarse birch
there was a reason i rushed godrick in p much any challenge run
frosty herald
I dont use the seals anymore since the defense debuff is too big
coarse birch
free +5 in everything for the whole run
ripe quest
They straight up tunnel through the ground to kill you. I don't know if this was...
I'm 90% sure they've been adding new behaviors or at the very least increasing the chance of said behaviors with each update. They're like, laughing at you when you die now to an explosion it's so goofy.
frosty herald
I dont use runes
coarse birch
i used morgotts in my rando all bosses deathless run for anti cheese
like a dragon in a cave boss arena
its p crazy health increase
gray ice
I dont use runes
But y
frosty herald
Rune arcs are rare items so i dont use it syndrome
coarse birch
too bad all my runs ended to gravity anyway 😭
yeah i wish you got rune arcs for like beating bosses or something
not all of them cause you dont need 165
or killing a main boss applied rune arc
there def could be more rune arcs
frosty herald
Rune arcs need a better place to be farmed than just rats
gray ice
I Coop a lot so I usually have too many
coarse birch
i should co op ER
gray ice
Like 4 characters with 99 stacks in inventory
It's super fun
I had a twink character I ran through most of the game to get stuff and then just helped people with Margit and golden sentinel
frosty herald
Twinking with the dark hand in ds3 and ds1
coarse birch
and if its first playthrough that might not be fun
i need to learn DS3 as well
once im satisfied with the ER challenge runs ive done
and then play the other games
although 1/2 feel so slow to me
being used to ER/DS3
gray ice
I still play through bloodborne pretty much annually
coarse birch
yeah i gotta finish that
gray ice
It's so bad it's become a joke to my friends
coarse birch
my friend gives me shit for playing ER so much
coarse birch
despite my hatred of 90% of its bosses
frosty herald
Ps4 emulator via dark magic
gray ice
A real one
lusty turtle
nvm dumb joke lost 😔
coarse birch
sorry skele
ive been whooshed
you may have stopped me from ranting about ER bosses though
which is good
zealot chat would never recover
royal vortex
first game with mittins in helldivers he calls an airstrike on me at the end, blows me up
coarse birch
deserved
lusty turtle
based
royal vortex
bird then detonates me when im trying to get my stuff back
my only 2 deaths were teamkills from british men
north sedge
Omg you guys never talk about zealot, what about my needs?!
royal vortex
im going to go full a10 on them
lusty turtle
who are you
north sedge
(My needs are watching josho get airstriked twice)
lusty turtle
im going to go full a10 on them
be useless and expensive?
coarse birch
Omg you guys never talk about zealot, what about my needs?!
lacerate flesh tearer
frosty herald
Imagine if they add a spaceship ac-130 to HD2
north sedge
lacerate flesh tearer
Elden ring bosses
royal vortex
be useless and expensive?
that too
rain steppe
Hi fellow zealots!
coarse birch
Elden ring bosses
id rather use that than fight most of the bosses
ignore my
800 hours
in which i make fighting the bosses as hard and stressful as possible
rain steppe
So I got a new weapon (purple) played a match and it felt horrible was there something wrong with the weapon or was I just used to using a worse weapon?
lusty turtle
who was astel again
coarse birch
astel is
fine
i dont hate him
astel was the guy you fought for rannis quest
skeleton head
pincers
teleports around and then grabs you
gray ice
who was astel again
Giant space creature with skeleton face
coarse birch
theres also one in snowfields
coarse birch
hes like
gray ice
gray ice
The reveal and how I encountered it was memorable as fuck
And the design is amazing to me
gray ice
Yea it's not the most engaging fight
lusty turtle
but that goes for all the large creature bosses in ER
gray ice
From has always been better at mid size to human sized fights
Nameless King was fantabulous
gray ice
Yhorm not so much
coarse birch
NPCs are either input reading and obnoxious or free
or fucking
gideon
which is like a means of torture
gray ice
So I got a new weapon (purple) played a match and it felt horrible was there som...
They would probably feel fairly similar
coarse birch
(assuming you actually need to fight him)
gray ice
Neither of them have any blessings that help particularly with what you use evisc for
Savage sweep 1 is fine, you'd probably want to get rampage on that if you wanna keep it
lusty turtle
So I got a new weapon (purple) played a match and it felt horrible was there som...
it'll probably be savage sweep making the difference, it gives you a lot of cleave and you will feel that on the denser hordes
the normal cleave isn't bad, but 140% extra is always better
frosty herald
When i first played elden ring i cheesed nokstella with bloody slash
gray ice
You and everyone else bud
frosty herald
Shush
lusty turtle
i never used bloody slash in ER
gray ice
Bloody slash was hilariously busted, I couldn't go anywhere without seeing it used
rain steppe
it'll probably be savage sweep making the difference, it gives you a lot of clea...
That could explain it the hordes felt thicker then they did before
gray ice
I was using faith stuff so I never used it either
lusty turtle
i enjoyed bullying invaders that used it
frosty herald
Rivers of blood the most abused weapon in the game
coarse birch
i just used radahns swords and called it a day
lusty turtle
i was int strength using great swords with spellcasting offhand
gray ice
Str faith was my first
frosty herald
The current strongest weapon is mohg's great spear
gray ice
I saw dragon spells and was like yea okay incantations
lusty turtle
i really liked the uhhh
frosty herald
Nah mohg's spear is busted with the weapon art
lusty turtle
i can't remember if it was a spell or a weapon thing, but it was a temp buff to the next hit with a weapon?
coarse birch
star fists/stormhawk dont let most things even play
frosty herald
A GIANT aoe that deals a shitton of damage and inflicts bleed
gray ice
i can't remember if it was a spell or a weapon thing, but it was a temp buff to ...
Was it int specifically?
lusty turtle
i honestly dont remember and don't have the screenshots anymore
coarse birch
that could be RKR
lusty turtle
gray ice
That sounds like the spells like bloodflame blade or the black fire one
The super temporary but strong weapon buffs
frosty herald
If you want to cheese the entire game rush to mohg via varre and use the unloading glitch to kill him then powerlevel with mohg's runes to meet the greatspear requirements
coarse birch
bloodflame lasts for more than one hit tho
frosty herald
Endure
gray ice
I just mean short
coarse birch
ah
gray ice
I can't think of any that lasted for only one hit
gray ice
Wyea maybe that, I was thinking of spells/incants only
frosty herald
I might be stupid then
coarse birch
the melee guy in fias champs spams it lol
gray ice
Now shut up before I kick you in the ankle
lusty turtle
Was it int specifically?
found it, was determination
coarse birch
ah
gray ice
Ahh
gray ice
It's the same
lusty turtle
i ran determination on a random ass normal greatsword i took purely for aesthetic
gray ice
Royal Knights resolve is stronger determination is all
lusty turtle
think it was the lordsword greatsword?
coarse birch
yeah thats prob why i forgot about it
frosty herald
Probably lordsword
coarse birch
everyone just runs RKR
gray ice
think it was the lordsword greatsword?
The one in the wagon chest on the road in limgrave
frosty herald
Fuck why didnt they give the lordsword the mireah greatsword moveset
gray ice
?
lusty turtle
yep
gray ice
Yuhh
frosty herald
One of the reasons banished and knight greatswords are the best
calm salmon
I'm 90% sure they've been adding new behaviors or at the very least increasing t...
Apparently the devs have director access to live matches too.
That's what people have been saying anyway.
coarse birch
i like most of the greatsword movesets
lusty turtle
used that for the entire game with frost damage on it
coarse birch
dark moons is good although you just spam R2 on that
calm salmon
So they can sit there and monitor your match live and change bug spawning behaviors.
calm salmon
So they can sit there and monitor your match live and change bug spawning behavi...
That seems like a mega hyper big brain IQ conspiracy theory though
lusty turtle
ye theres literally no way thats the case
thats just a joke people say about every coop game ever
lusty turtle
no, i only place those bursters behind josho
coarse birch
doing gods work
misty raven
ye theres literally no way thats the case
calm salmon
ye theres literally no way thats the case
I do like the patrol spawning behaviors though.
Got into a pickle last night at 0% brainpower cause it was the last one of the night.
Literally 15 patrols onto our objective in a row, in a non-stop paintrain
lusty turtle
https://www.psu.com/news/helldivers-2-devs-will-be-watching-while-you-play-and-e...
surely they have enough devs for all their lobbies and are manually spawning things 
calm salmon
brood warriors, bile titans, chargers, spitter bombers. You name it, it kept interrupting our objective
lusty turtle
theres no way this is marketing hyperbole
misty raven
I mean they never said they were watching everyone's games
calm salmon
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they had some kind of director level access to games, if they so choose to use it.
But it'd be like 1% of 1% of 1% of the population getting dev controlled matches.
misty raven
Like they could just see a random game and go...hmm. chargers
lusty turtle
surely
fleet zealot
But it'd be like 1% of 1% of 1% of the population getting dev controlled matches...
probably streamers most likely
median steeple
yeah for most people its prob an AI director
frosty herald
https://www.psu.com/news/helldivers-2-devs-will-be-watching-while-you-play-and-e...
That sounds really cool
Imagine a dev just spawns 2 bile titans in a civie extraction
median steeple
well considering 3 tanks spawned while I did I can see that
fleet zealot
ell has been captured by the heretics and needs your help to escape and purge in the god emperor's name
fleet zealot
all they need is your credit card number, the 3 digits on the back, and the expiration date and year, but you better hurry
frosty herald
fleet zealot
before an obese fish forcibly changes the shops and Ell cannot get their crusher
fleet zealot
i find happiness in the misery of others
median steeple
frosty herald
My ass with skyrim locations when i was 17
ripe quest
surely they have enough devs for all their lobbies and are manually spawning thi...
They were talking about this feature before the floodgates threw millions of players at them tbf. There have been a select few examples where devs have a backdoor type of thing where they can alter what would happen in a game.
I imagine it's something where a specific team can hop in and GM a couple games while on downtime.
median steeple
gray ice
Yea honestly wasn't expecting helldivers 2 to get this kind of traction
frosty herald
It straight up just blew up
gray ice
It looked good for sure but the 1st one was not well known
frosty herald
Not even because of streamers
gray ice
I thought for sure that would hold it back to a degree
ripe quest
It was a big stars align moment with this game
Willing to bet it'll spark another wave of coop stuff
We haven't had a huge one in a while.
misty raven
Different kinds of fun. Everyone has their tastes. High collateral dmg and being a grunt for a over the top starship troopers like setting is fun and great
Primarily 3rd person shooter having more immersive 1st person animations than other AAA fps games
gray ice
I mean can it spark another co-op wave we're already in one
livid oak
the movement felt really bad. was just constantly running and reloading then clip dumping
also didnt like the calling down from the mothership stupid minigame
gray ice
Enshrouded just came out and Nightingale is coming out in a week
misty raven
The movement is great
livid oak
never heard of nightingale. looks insane
gray ice
There still a good amount of co-op stuff coming out
misty raven
Finally a game with some weight
median steeple
Holy shit bro described playing og
gray ice
Nightingale looks like it could be pretty cool
I dunno how many more open world survival crafting games I have in me
tropic terrace
meanwhile Payday 3 on death support advertising the unready button as a QoL focus
gray ice
If only those devs weren't idiots
livid oak
Holy shit bro described playing og
what is og
gray ice
They released competition with themselves 6 years prior and lost
tropic terrace
ik its crazy, i had 1.5k hours on payday 2, did all DSOD heists with a mate, got my mask in celebration of the game being announced
I got suckered hard
fading vale
PD2 got super boring and the combat felt so vanilla and uninteresting to me
and I hate stealth stuff
gray ice
Ah hey laz
tropic terrace
different strokes, I really loved it
NEVER with randoms though
fading vale
sure for like 50 hours it was somewhat fun but
coarse birch
hello laz
fading vale
hello
gray ice
If you held me at gunpoint I'd still struggle to recall too much about it
tropic terrace
it definitely like, burnt out towards the end of its lifespan, i was never interested in all the stuff that came out like post 2019
median steeple
Payday 2 is enjoyable if you create the most batshit build imaginable
tropic terrace
but I played PDTH and I had the PD2 Beta, I was a long time fan already
fading vale
helldivers is just jump in and have a blast with friends and blow shit up and do dumb stuff and it's atmosphere is pretty much perfect
livid oak
helldivers is just jump in and have a blast with friends and blow shit up and do...
thats why i didnt like it. im missing the friends part
tropic terrace
I've been hearing about HD2 a lot but I still need convincing, its world looks so boring from an outside perspective
coarse birch
it seems like its just a dumb fun with friends thing
fading vale
I'm in a discord with like 15 buddies playing it
tropic terrace
I don't wanna pick up a game you see VanossGaming making a sponsored video for lol
coarse birch
cause 7000 series card
gray ice
I mean it gets more serious at high difficulties
It seems like you can have fun casually killing shit
fading vale
I wouldn't call it a stroll at high difficulties at all yeah
gray ice
Or actually trying your nuts off cuz high diff can be intense apparently
fading vale
especially on some of the missions
lusty turtle
maybe theres a serious side to it though
na even on the highest diff its a push over tbh
coarse birch
damn im getting conflicting messages now lol
tropic terrace
like I certainly have my gripes with Fatshark and the tide games being very barren past 2 week updates n shit but there's no other co-op game for me that scratches this specific itch, I LOVE Warhammer's setting so much, both of them
fading vale
skelly is one of the couple people that say this here
lusty turtle
i got dragged into the highest diff from lvl 1 and was still almost top fragging
before the crashes got worse anyway 💀
fading vale
I think I've had 1 crash
coarse birch
hes on AMD
lusty turtle
i'm on an AMD card
fading vale
oh
coarse birch
which makes it worse ive heard
fading vale
skill issue
lusty turtle
im lucky i even got matches
coarse birch
thats the reason im holding off
median steeple
a NIVIDA conspiracy
coarse birch
he is built diff
lusty turtle
its honestly not too bad, the only annoying part is there WILL be bile titans so you spend a lot of time on the move cause the moment one dies another spawns pmuch
for the bug side anyway
i got lucky in the bot side and think i saw 1 tank over the 2 matches
lots of hulks tho
north sedge
tropic terrace
fleet zealot
<:hmmgryn:1022192304154484767>
infernus to deadly accurate
and then you can change unarmored to maniac or whatever you want really
prisma sigil
I've been hearing about HD2 a lot but I still need convincing, its world looks s...
It's great
When it actually works
They've been struggling to keep the game functional with the tide of players
fading vale
how could they not design it to handle 500k players flooding in constantly
ripe quest
Currently I think the biggest issues stem from just not being able to play the game properly but there are workarounds. The complete lack of earning rewards is gone afaik, it's at worst just delayed. The server capacity thing is being worked on n whatnot. There's a good bit of balance they could work on after but they seem to know what they're doing.
fading vale
yeah I have no qualms with the game really
ripe quest
Imagine all the OG Darktide cope saying "It'll be fixed in a few months" but like actually this time
solar gorge
I don't wanna pick up a game you see VanossGaming making a sponsored video for l...
yeah that's hard
fading vale
sometimes the automatons go way too hard
fading vale
like when 5 dropships come every 10 seconds
and you are fighting 10 tanks
and jammed
solar gorge
stop letting the commissars shoot their flares
fading vale
yeah well I'm sorry they are in every direction across terrain and I'm jammed
and being blasted by a mortar turret 100m+ away
solar gorge
can't you differentiate between two identical looking ennemies but one has a pistol and a sword instead of a rifle/2 swords ?????
fading vale
let me look through my explosion filtering goggles
tropic harbor
I've been Only 500k players and dropships in every direction? They still can't handle it?
Sounds like a skill issue to me
ripe quest
Me seeing a red flare shoot up from the bushes (I was just ordering my support weapon)
solar gorge
commissars are the strongest automatons
tropic harbor
They should be able to make it 5 million players, dropships and airborne troops parachuting down, AAA graphics, and it should all be able to run smoothly on a ten year old phone.
fading vale
now do that while escorting civies
solar gorge
They should be able to make it 5 million players, dropships and airborne troops ...
I've heard that this is the actual discourse that was ongoing when the servers were unavailable on the helldivers subreddit
royal vortex
get blown up by airstrike
ripe quest
I'm surprised it looks so good and I get good frames, it's even on the Tide game engine.
royal vortex
mittins says "why did you do this"
deep fossil
Alright, calling the psychotic lunatics in the chat; what's the build and playe style corner stones for knife zealot. I've gotta get it figured out, and see if it something I enjoy. toyed with it on my own once or twice, and I've gotta be missing something important. lol
buoyant pecan
Me seeing a red flare shoot up from the bushes (I was just ordering my support w...
break contact
ripe quest
I do kinda want to port over the arco config to Helldivers since it's so easy
fading vale
Alright, calling the psychotic lunatics in the chat; what's the build and playe ...
I mean you can kind of run anything as long as you have the crit talents top right, stealth or chastise, any of the keystones work but usually piety is the choice
and you want uncanny on your knife
also duelist talent
tropic harbor
Alright, calling the psychotic lunatics in the chat; what's the build and playe ...
Okay, here's what I've seen watching knife users:
- Deal no damage.
- Never use your ranged weapon (see rule 1)
- Share your knife build here and get mad when people give you suggestions on how to improve it.
buoyant pecan
Helldiver will play on a strategm scrambler map and cry when their shit gets scrambled instead of looking at the ball to see if its the right shit
inner vigil
Man, I really hate the fact we are unable to edit our characters' names after creating them...
For example, I had to delete my lvl 15 zealot just to make a new one, because my old one was technically made before skill trees patch and thus was named DiscountOgryn when my newly-created one has two blind eyes and is named JusticeIsBlind...
solar gorge
i thought everyone just named their character dickot
tropic harbor
I'd like to change my zealots name from Corot to Carot or Veteran
tropic harbor
I'm very proud that I have a psycher named Ogyrn and an ogyrn named Psycher. Sadly I suck at DT so the names stop being funny pretty fast
inner vigil
i thought everyone just named their character dickot
not me, I wanted to make some kind of funny name that pokes fun at something related to the class's concept (as an example, my Veteran's name is ItchyTriggerfinger)...
solar gorge
uh
ripe quest
Alright, calling the psychotic lunatics in the chat; what's the build and playe ...
Generally you're looking for an Uncanny + Precog/Executor/Riposte knife. On the VI you can get Haymaker to work. With talents grab Duellist mostly, on-dodge stuff is potent. You can run whatever for ults and keystones, Martyr and Judgement offer nice benefits. I recommend a horde softener ranged weapon like a Kant Shotgun or a Flamer, since it covers the knife's weakness the best.
For playstyle just DPS check elites and bosses, if you don't want to get super into combos push attack spam will be really nice. You can w m1 most enemies, be careful around clumps of Ragers. Your dodges are huge and paired with any survivability talents you can live for little effort. If you can get into the flow state w/ it it's brainless.
tropic harbor
The best part of playing with Ogyrn is I once got a team with 5 ogyrns. Myself, the three other players, and Ogyrn's beloved.
tropic harbor
Generally you're looking for an Uncanny + Precog/Executor/Riposte knife. On the ...
As much as I shit on knife players this is what the good ones do. It's very effective but has something of a skill curve.
royal vortex
arco had the fkin NASTIEST knife clutch ive ever seen earlier
because i was an idiot who stood in fire
tropic harbor
because i was an idiot who stood in fire
But isn't that what fire is for?
royal vortex
i thought i was fine because i wanted to tunnel vision with the bolter
it was wishful thinking
ripe quest
I'm still pissed that the only times this game has properly kicked my shit in for running a meme build have been while I'm playing with Argus.
calm salmon
because i was an idiot who stood in fire
summit1g moment
calm salmon
As much as I shit on knife players this is what the good ones do. It's very effe...
My biggest problem with knife is that combat axes exist.
And going down the list you have:
Chainaxe, Chainsword, Dueling Sword, Force Swords
uh. . . Heavy Sword even.
Basically, everything that combat knife offers to players is its insane mobility which just. . . isn't that important when everything else is "good enough" and offers way better killing power on basically everything.
ripe quest
Knives will scale better if you can lean into the finesse at all
minor sage
Run fast or run slow
calm salmon
I'd much rather just kill multiple things per swing with a decent attack reach.
minor sage
Mobility matters a lot
calm salmon
While sacrificing some mobility.
ripe quest
or a ttk of .2 seconds
Dude tf are you on you just said "My biggest problem with knife is that combat axes exist." If you think the TTKs are the same why are you saying that.
calm salmon
Dude tf are you on you just said "My biggest problem with knife is that combat a...
That is. . . my point? Combat Axes offer the same exact killing power on single targets, while getting to obliterate hordes, and only have somewhat worse mobility.
With chainswords following pretty closely behind.
Use knife, whatever. But I'd, personally speaking, rather use literally anything else.
solar gorge
chainswords better than both tho
better than a plain ass axe or knife
boring ah weapons
royal vortex
knife on vet with both stamina regen delay nodes is p funny
calm salmon
Like, if melee vet can do fine with power sword's mobility issues.
royal vortex
psyker tier infinite sprinting
calm salmon
I don't think the mobility buffs from knife are at all relevant to winning matches.
Unless you're trying to do sub 10 minute runs
north sedge
the best mobility option is josho autocannon jumping accidentally
calm salmon
who needs a jetpack when you can shoot your feet with an autocannon
royal vortex
the best mobility option is josho autocannon jumping accidentally
lmfao
i suicided 3 times
solar gorge
wait can you rocket jump in holedrivers ?
royal vortex
one of them i was flicking to hit the back of a marauder or w/e its called and i over-shot and put the round into a wall next to me
instantly killing me
tropic terrace
Man, I really hate the fact we are unable to edit our characters' names after cr...
haha my 5th operative was made to replace my vet cause i didnt like his name and by the time i reached level 30, i liked the old name better and just went back
north sedge
wait can you rocket jump in holedrivers ?
if you dont mind arriving at different times based on the mass of the chunk
royal vortex
lmao
solar gorge
i need to test this
north sedge
you will absolutely die
solar gorge
i think aslong as the bit with the cape arrives where you wanted it to go it's a win
royal vortex
maybe when heavy armor works properly
solar gorge
armor will matter one day
north sedge
armor does matter (fashion)
north sedge
no the cape is necessary
especially when its fucking tatters because you've just been through the shit
solar gorge
you wanna die like Syndrome but instead of getting it stuck in a jet engine it's in the exhaust of a hulk
north sedge
yes
in fact they should make that a thing
just have a hulk with a huge turbine in it's chest
maiden path
median steeple
just have a hulk with a huge turbine in it's chest
holy shit its sturm from RE8
visual stream
https://tenor.com/view/devastator-inhale-transformers-eat-gif-16069314
me as a child, left unattended in the sandy part of my backyard
median steeple
why do kids want to eat everything
visual stream
Curiosity probably
That's what I remember the reasoning being for me at least
Dog food was another curiosity thing, only one kibble tho
lusty turtle
why do kids want to eat everything
sand tasty
median steeple
median steeple
holy fuck I thought that was a manatee
lusty turtle
lavish phoenix
which weapon do u like to use with combat knife?
buoyant pecan
holy fuck I thought that was a manatee
how
wraith helm
which weapon do u like to use with combat knife?
Something with range preferably.
Columns mk 5 or even a kantael shotgun
lavish phoenix
shotgun has range?
ember yew
Special attack/ammo snipe
lavish phoenix
oh i though its more like flamethrower or something thats more for close range
median steeple
the flame special has infinite cleave
so you can shoot through everything and pretty far as well
hushed knoll
<a:HEFSAmeliaEatSand:768187611163787325>
Why are you eating sand 
coarse birch
He just said its tasty
royal vortex
yum
median steeple
stan you have eaten worse
delicate shadow
Why are you eating sand <:acid_do_mathematics:684519255798185991>
good minerals innit
fleet zealot
what acutie
median steeple
bro just woke up and doesn't know what year it is
royal vortex
https://streamable.com/xr7kc0 @south folio
vocal pulsar
https://streamable.com/xr7kc0 <@297182781346152448>
he did a great job
but still an awful player
coarse birch
might be the best clutch ive witnessed in person
median steeple
holy shit what a video
frosty herald
arco's graphics finally look presentable
royal vortex
im almost 100% sure i saved him from death by hyperdensity by telling him to run into the daemonhost
vocal pulsar
JOSHO TAKING CREDIT AGAIN
coarse birch
yeah he could have gone around
but
he prob would have been swarmed by whatever
was far past the grace period being solo gives you
royal vortex
it is fated whenever you enter that hallway on the left with an elite pack you will die horribly
median steeple
calm down doctor fate
maiden path
frosty herald
wtf converted to knife
dim mortar
Hey uhh, so what's the difference between the XII and IV chainaxe and which is better at killing the toughbois
median steeple
we're gonna have to kill this guy pilgrim
vocal pulsar
Hey uhh, so what's the difference between the XII and IV chainaxe and which is b...
mk12 better at killing thoughbois
royal vortex
i had some absolutely ludicrous knife clutch attempts with 0 toughness on vet but because i have no reasonable toughness gen on the vet knife build i suffer
and die
vocal pulsar
mk12 has strike down heavies that do big damage to solo targets, and light spam will take care of hordes. the mk4 chaxe is the opposite. light attacks are for solo dudes, heavies are for hordes. like i said, the mk12 has better single target damage
royal vortex
one of the only times the bolter's downsides are genuinely preventing me from winning games
tropic terrace
https://streamable.com/xr7kc0 <@297182781346152448>
all this for 600 plasteel
god-emperor bless our zealots
vocal pulsar
in fact, the mk12 chaxe can one shot crushers without chastise @dim mortar
@dim mortar this is the best setup for mk12 chaxe
headtaker can be swapped for slaughterer, if hordes are a problem for you
dim mortar
Gotchu. Thanks
north sedge
Mk4 can do it too
dim mortar
Sorry not parsing the acronym
fading vale
https://streamable.com/xr7kc0 <@297182781346152448>
flamer bad
median steeple
if the weapon doesn't do your chores and taxes it's not good
fading vale
that clutch would have been way easier if you light spammed with flesh tearer lacerate smh
vocal pulsar
@north sedge L I A R
royal vortex
flamer bad
sometimes i see arco fill a killfeed with ragers or crushers and i remember you have to be larping on malice to think its good
tropic harbor
https://streamable.com/xr7kc0 <@297182781346152448>
New theory: knife is the best defensive weapon for zealot
north sedge
Try more harder
vocal pulsar
New theory: knife is the best defensive weapon for zealot
crusher
violet hornet
https://streamable.com/xr7kc0 <@297182781346152448>
killing the chaos spawn with a flamer after doing 99% with a knife was hilarious
tropic terrace
this is the build for it
what kind of ranged weapon compliments this
violet hornet
Why did the dh disappear though?