zealot-class

[prisma sigil]

I mean the game

[south folio]

yes they can't be perfect

but they can do better

[prisma sigil]

I still have to pay attention in Maelstroms

But the fact is that level is hard for most people

[fading vale]

difficultly 6 makes no sense in the current game design

[fleet zealot]

diff 6 would need a balance overhaul

[prisma sigil]

Why?

[polar nexus]

people will not come back with balancing

[south folio]

the fact that they can't reach perfection is not a reason to do nothing about the current state of balance

[polar nexus]

the game needs content rn

[prisma sigil]

All they'd have to do is increase enemy damage and put you at one down like Payday 2 did

[tropic harbor]

Bro you’re a Primarch of course you’re gonna have an easier time than a bunch of mortal rejects

[fleet zealot]

I want content not

[south folio]

also there are already 5 tiers of difficulty

[fading vale]

literally everything right now is for damnation, and you can't increase enemy density, and you also can't just buff health values

[prisma sigil]

Okay THIS is true

[fleet zealot]

payday was balanced differently and holy fuck i can't imagine stalkers and shotgunners in t6 it makes me wanna die

[south folio]

a sixth one would fragment the playerbase even more and be needless bloat

[prisma sigil]

Nah that's not what I'm saying and not what they'd hav eto do

[south folio]

just balance the 5 difficulties that we currently have instead of adding on a new one

[prisma sigil]

Increase damage, lower wounds to 1 for everyone, you get one down and then you die on your next

They could PROBABLY increase density some too

They literally did it for Vermintide 2 after like 2 years

But Keet IS right, we need more maps and weapons first

[fleet zealot]

better be paranoid for shooters cause if you let one stalker shoot you, your toughness is gone

[delicate shadow]

last big boy maelstrom I played with special monsters n shit was a breeze in 25 mins

[fading vale]

maybe horde density but not elites and specials, hell the engine can hardly handle it as is

[prisma sigil]

Preferably some new enemies too

[south folio]

their servers are practically dying with what we already have

[delicate shadow]

game is so hilariously stupid powercrept

[fleet zealot]

engine can't handle it either

[prisma sigil]

What are your hours though

[tropic harbor]

My idea to keep the game fun: a new game mode with 5x the enemies of high intensity shock damnation. However, they have malice HP

[delicate shadow]

a cheeky 500 which is on the low end from what I've seen a lot of folk in here posting

[lusty turtle]

the audio dying as 16 poxbursters spawn

[south folio]

i don't see why the hours should matter when diff 5 maelstrom should be ideally a ball-buster

[fleet zealot]

yee, they honestly

[south folio]

like recall that this is a game with multiple difficulties

[prisma sigil]

500 is a lot of experience in a match

[polar nexus]

i remember when high int t5 was something

[fleet zealot]

should just tone down players moer

[south folio]

if people want something easier, they can always just step down a difficulty

[fading vale]

me yeeting across the map with a hammer 1 shotting all the weakened monstrosities or 2-3 shotting the others (ignoring everyone else that can do this because a ton of weapons/builds do way too much damage)

[prisma sigil]

and because there's no such thing as an unreachable difficulty

[fleet zealot]

and the game would be better

[cerulean pine]

Solo queueing auric maelstrom is a toss up between a pleasant breeze and a tornado that rips us to shreds in the first 30 seconds

[prisma sigil]

The fact is you CAN hit a ceiling. If you're good, the highest of difficulties will eventually stop challenging you

[south folio]

it doesn't have to be that unreachable, but you have to admit that how easy it is as it currently is is a bit of a problem

[south folio]

yes I know

[tropic harbor]

I’d also like a game mode that how no melee enemies other than specialists. Just a straight up shootout… unless you’re able to brave the gunfire

[fleet zealot]

sudden change of subject

[south folio]

i already said that they can't reach perfection

[fleet zealot]

who unironically likes sour cream

[frosty herald]

make ai smarter

[prisma sigil]

Me and every Mexican in Tucson

[south folio]

i don't see why you keep repeating points that I already agreed with

[prisma sigil]

Sour cream slaps

[fading vale]

the difficulty of auric+ is one of two things: absolute bullshit from the game or you have absolutely braindead teammates that shouldn't be there

[frosty herald]

have crushers delay or speed up their swing to throw you off

[fleet zealot]

like i hate sour cream whenever I go out I ask for no sour cream and there is nothing worse than getting a sour creamshot in my mouth

[tropic harbor]

Also I want a game mode where I have a girlfriends who loves and believes in me.

[fleet zealot]

it ruins my burrito eating experience

[prisma sigil]

Sorry I'm having a hard time paying attention with the text flood

[south folio]

but you still have to see that there are multiple tiers of difficulties anyways

[frosty herald]

trappers wont rush and shoot they will wait

[fleet zealot]

also it just reminds me of soured milk

and makes my brain ick

[polar nexus]

bullshit is in the low int modifiers

[south folio]

like, if people want something easier, then they can always step down a difficulty

[prisma sigil]

I mean that's fine, but I don't feel the need to rebalance any of the current difficulties or the classes

[lusty turtle]

na never do this

[south folio]

if we want something harder, we can't quite step up because that is the ceeling

[prisma sigil]

It wouldn't be that hard to add up a new tier

[frosty herald]

i want people to suffer

[polar nexus]

sometime you do a map with almost not elites and then blam a 10 ragers

[south folio]

but that fragments the playerbase even more

[prisma sigil]

I mean the first move like I repeated before is a one-down mode

[fading vale]

I mostly hate sour cream in burritos etc when it's all in one spot and way too much of it, if it's in moderation and spread well it's ok

[lusty turtle]

bring back launch shotgun

[fleet zealot]

i can't even stand a smear really

[fading vale]

but getting a sour cream bite is gross

[polar nexus]

people doing low int do not know how to deal with that most of the time

[fleet zealot]

but that may be cause I had bad sour milk experience

[prisma sigil]

I mean I don't mind playing with a lot of the same people, I wish it happened more

[fleet zealot]

and it's the same sour taste

[frosty herald]

the difficulty ceiling right now is auric maelstrom

[south folio]

you're just suggesting the same end goal but with a worse implementation

[prisma sigil]

In fact I hate that when I play with someone, I rarely encounter them again because of how many people play matches

[prisma sigil]

So why did it work for VT2?

Cataclysm is ballin

and I never looked back

[delicate shadow]

mael pubs are hilarious, headless chickens simulator

[frosty herald]

its the hardest of the hardest and few people complete it with the the sheir number of bs thrown your way

[prisma sigil]

It's literally what they did when they added Cataclysm difficulty

I believe they did slightly tune down Legend when they released it but Cataclysm was still harder than base Legend

[fading vale]

the difficulty of the game shouldn't just be a bullshit knob when half it doesn't work correctly

[fleet zealot]

vt2 didn't have ranged enemies

(that mattered)

[prisma sigil]

You mean as many

[fleet zealot]

no, archers didn't matter

they still don't

[south folio]

i never said that it wouldn't work
but it's not the best implementation

[prisma sigil]

But Darktide gives us way more tools to deal with ranged enemies, so how did that matter?

[fleet zealot]

here damnation shooters already shred people

[prisma sigil]

Rat gunners and gas throwers were dangerous af though

[fleet zealot]

you can't buff damage enemy does, a crusher overhead still downs most everyone

[fleet zealot]

those were specials

[prisma sigil]

They were ranged specials

[delicate shadow]

archers mattered A LOT on release

it was hell

[prisma sigil]

Hahahahaha

It was bad though

[nimble fiber]

sour cream is nice on chips or crackers

[prisma sigil]

It needed to be fixed

[delicate shadow]

beastmen archers couldn't be blocked and you could get fields of like 40+

so you'd just get peppered lmao

[fading vale]

all I hear about VT2 is just temp health and spam to win without thinking but I've only played like 5 matches

[lusty turtle]

no thats pretty much it

[delicate shadow]

VT2 doesn't get hard until you start doing high tier weaves or modded realm stuff

[fading vale]

lol

[prisma sigil]

I'm just saying, I think it would work for DT. We have more tools for dealing with ranged anyways. A one-down mode would work imo

[nimble fiber]

like in the thing, not to dip it with, when its already in the chip/cracker

[fleet zealot]

there is a difference between range specials and the fucking stalker hordes

it would not, we'd need a balance overhaul and rescaling on ranged enemies especially

[lusty turtle]

if you really get stuck crack out grailknight and drink str pots to ignore gameplay

[frosty herald]

0 wound mode

[fleet zealot]

plus you'd drive all the thunderhammer mains to madness

[prisma sigil]

I'm also totally down for this

We should also get a Maelstrom modifier that enables ranged friendly fire

I want more difficult shit, more challlenges

[fading vale]

god no

[tropic harbor]

I played VT2 at launch and it sucked. Even after a year there was still not enough content

[south folio]

rip ogryns

[fleet zealot]

and make martyrdom players grumpier cause they get their max bonuses reduced

[lusty turtle]

im honestly more for nerfing players

[south folio]

also psykers teamkilling everyone

[fleet zealot]

fuck frinedly fire

[prisma sigil]

Nerfing players is unfun

[delicate shadow]

I wanna nerf players and buff enemies at the same time tbh

[south folio]

but it's the same end goal

[nimble fiber]

frinedly

[prisma sigil]

There's nothing enjoyable about being challenged because you're suddenly weaker

[fading vale]

oh come on

[prisma sigil]

It's different

[south folio]

the relative numbers of buffing enemies/nerfing players is the same

[fading vale]

there's so much shit that needs nerfing

[south folio]

how is it different

[cerulean pine]

It's very different

[delicate shadow]

being too strong as a player is boring

[cerulean pine]

Matter of perception

[south folio]

and also

there are lower difficulties

if you want that experience, just step down

[prisma sigil]

Because you aren't being challenged because the game is difficult, you're being challenged because they arbitrarily lowered your stats / altered your talents

[small heron]

Go in with grey guns and no relics on damnation.

[tropic harbor]

I think we need to nerf power maul

[fading vale]

ermagerd I can't use my immortal autopistol vet anymore HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO HAVE FUN

[prisma sigil]

Make the game harder, not the people weaker

[south folio]

making people weaker will also make the game harder

[prisma sigil]

Raise the skill ceiling, don't lower it

[cerulean pine]

Games are satisfying even when enemies scale with you because you get stronger with them and you notice that

[prisma sigil]

In a negative quality of life, tedious way, yeah

[lusty turtle]

yuuup

[fading vale]

you have to nerf things that are way out of line or you can't balance the game, not that hard to understand

[cerulean pine]

It isn't satisfying if stuff gets harder because you get weaker

That's just dumb

[south folio]

nerfing players also raises the skill ceiling, under your terminology

[prisma sigil]

Exactly what I'm saying

[south folio]

ok but the end goal is just the same

the relative numbers are the same

[cerulean pine]

No, it isn't

[prisma sigil]

The difference is nothing has changed about the enemy

[fleet zealot]

people hate nerfs but they are necessary

[delicate shadow]

the game is reasonably as hard as it can get short of turning enemies into bullet sponges, making everything one hit you or something equally silly

the game can barely handle the number of spawns as is without kicking the bucket

[fading vale]

but number get bigger and I can spam my ult more!

[cerulean pine]

The player perception is part of the end goal and that is different

[south folio]

how would the numbers not be the same

ok but i wasn't talking about player perception

[fleet zealot]

psword, rambo vet, assail release

[prisma sigil]

I still think Maelstroms aren't THAT easy

[cerulean pine]

OK but you have to consider it

[fleet zealot]

all of those objectively needed nerfs

[south folio]

i specifically referred to the relative numbers and you still somehow fucked up reading what i said

[cerulean pine]

You can't just ignore it

[south folio]

yes i'm aware that fatshark can't quite ignore it

[fleet zealot]

you cannot buff everything to the level of the top performers

[lusty turtle]

im going to ignore player input

[prisma sigil]

Maybe if you're only playing with like discord premades and communicating over voice I could see them being easy, but if you play with randoms they are not easy every match

[south folio]

especially with what community this game has

[lusty turtle]

we're nerfing everything

fuck assail psyker, fuck bolter vet

[frosty herald]

maelstrom isnt easy at all

[south folio]

motherfucker why does everyone jump to the "you only play premades" argument

[prisma sigil]

And frankly it's unreasonable to expect the devs to nerf all players just to satisfy the wants of the players at the very top of the skill ceiling

[south folio]

this is the nth time I've seen this

[fading vale]

the entirety of ogryn, crit chains, cooldown on every class, many things on vet, marty and crit zealot

[south folio]

i premade only half the time that i play this game

[delicate shadow]

I do amateur™️ balancing for a vermintide modded tournament and yeah like, you have to consider player input but player input isn't a monolith by any means; just read this chat for proof of that

[frosty herald]

is it wrong tho...

[south folio]

very wrong

[prisma sigil]

that's still 100% more than I do

[delicate shadow]

yes, for me at least

[prisma sigil]

If you want more challenge so badly then stop doing premades

[south folio]

and i'm still well adjusted because i solo queue often

[spare dome]

i premade pretty much never

[lusty turtle]

you would be surprised

[south folio]

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING THOUGH???

[lusty turtle]

pinning fire nerf was needed

[south folio]

am i tainted just because i premade more than you??

[prisma sigil]

You said half your matches are premades

[south folio]

like what

[delicate shadow]

mind you I haven't played since december because I got fuckin' bored

[lusty turtle]

and happened

and the game is healthier for it

[south folio]

yes?

[spare dome]

rest in piss pinning fire

[south folio]

my point is that my solo queue pubs are also easy

[prisma sigil]

Solo queue is objectively harder, so if your concern is the game being too easy, why not stop the premades entirely?

[fading vale]

challenge in pubs just comes from everyone being an idiot and is not fun

[prisma sigil]

Nah thats cap

[south folio]

what cap

[lusty turtle]

solo queue pubs ARE easy, hes not even wrong

[prisma sigil]

Solo queue pubs are regularly filled with the under experienced who are not ready for maelstroms / auric damns

[south folio]

alright, so your arguments so far is just ignoring what i've said and also saying that i'm lying

great

[fading vale]

oh cool the 4th game in a row where I have to solo clutch for 5-10 minutes, WOW SO FUN

[south folio]

ok my teammates are shit

[prisma sigil]

Wrong is not the same as lying

Relax

[spare dome]

yea the amount of power a good player has access to now is pretty insane

[south folio]

but player level is so high that I can just carry the game extremely easily

[prisma sigil]

So because you've reached the top of the skill ceiling, the devs need to nerf everyone who plays the game?

[spare dome]

like the only thing that really ends you are stumbling into a disabler

[south folio]

what do you mean top of the skill ceiling

i play extremely braindead builds

[spare dome]

arco is c-tier at best

[south folio]

you talk like i have a 400 apm playstyle

[fleet zealot]

anyways i haven't posted enough ferrets

[prisma sigil]

OK

[south folio]

bitch i play caxe martyrdom zealot and psword vet

[prisma sigil]

Now I REALLY dont understand

[lusty turtle]

arco is made of explode usually

[left iron]

Arco has difficulties dodging snipers

[fading vale]

"nerf everyone" vs nerf things that need to be nerfed

hmmm

[south folio]

there is exactly 0 brain activity in me

[prisma sigil]

You complain about the game being too easy but you willingly play braindead builds ?

[frosty herald]

solo is easy?

[south folio]

yes?

[prisma sigil]

Why don't you try some different and more engaging builds then LMFAO

[nimble fiber]

very adorable

[small heron]

If you want the game to be harder, self nerf. Don't use orange gear. Use grey gear. Take your relics off. Now jump into damnation with a premade all grey gear no relic run.
Yes, the game is playable that way.

[faint sinew]

absolutely adorable ferret, I love him

[south folio]

i play OP shit so that I can have a good opinion about them and say that they can be nerfed

[spare dome]

lmao, someone is definitely screenshotting this

[south folio]

well, it's a damned if I don't and damned if I do

[prisma sigil]

You play OP shit and then complain that the game is too easy

How do you not see the ridiculous hypocrisy in this

[south folio]

if I don't play those builds, one could argue that "i don't have a good measure on those builds"

[prisma sigil]

You can just NOT play OP builds lol

[lusty turtle]

do you have any a-posing

[south folio]

and if I do play those builds, then you say what you're saying at this moment

[south folio]

yeah and it's not fun if my teammates then decide to play those builds and delete things

[spare dome]

vet needs like a third soft relaunch

that's just where we're at

[south folio]

because this isn't just about me running those builds

it's also about my teammates

[split ibex]

Ogryn needs a third of it's tree soft relaunched lol

[south folio]

because this is a multiplayer game, not a solo one, unfortunately

[fading vale]

I just play hammer with an og zealot build and actually play the game instead of being braindead (and occasionally use the OP revolver)

[faint sinew]

i just like clicking left click and watching my chainsword swing side to side

[south folio]

it truly is engaging when a kickback ogryn joins the match and deletes everything

[lusty turtle]

god kickback 💀

[fading vale]

pls no nerf, that is unfun

[prisma sigil]

Ok

I am actually with you there

[spare dome]

and only because a veteran is feeding them infinite ammo

[prisma sigil]

Kickback is actually busted because you literally never run out of ammo with a survivalist vet and you delete everything lmfao

[median steeple]

the kickback og preparing to blow up every burster in my face

[delicate shadow]

remember when gunlugger burn was a thing and screens just stopped existing

[lusty turtle]

does that even matter anymore now that they have like 60 shells?

[fading vale]

and then you have the joshos that will vacuum all of the ammo

[prisma sigil]

The funny thing is I actually don't see kickback that often

I see a lot more rumbler Ogryns lately

[lusty turtle]

its still a thing 💀

[spare dome]

I mean 60 shells is mathematically less than Infinity shells

[split ibex]

The problem is more that the kickback is the only weapon that can remove anything at range reliably. It is overtuned in all roles it performs and everything else sucks at the most important job

[spare dome]

but im not a mathologist

[fading vale]

at least you don't instantly delete everything with bugged ripper fire

[median steeple]

ah peak p13 gameplay

[lusty turtle]

as a mathmaninja i can say you are wrong 😤

[fleet zealot]

idk i'll check and keep it in mind

[south folio]

proof?

[spare dome]

i need more crayons first

[lusty turtle]

he hungy

[faint sinew]

can you save me the red ones?

[spare dome]

for da brain powah

[prisma sigil]

Also I gotta say, I feel like nerfs instead of new difficulty tiers is just lazy. I'd rather have a new tier to tackle than just struggle more at my current one. Also a higher tier would come with higher mat rewards which people neverendingly complain about

[fading vale]

a new difficulty is lazy

[prisma sigil]

If they nerfed everyone then they should buff the mat rewards across the board

[lusty turtle]

nerfs if anything is less lazy

it means actually considering balance

[south folio]

if they're doing good nerfs, they still have to put in a good amount of work into balancing tweaking

[lusty turtle]

and you know, balancing

[south folio]

having to consider the numbers, doing testing, and tweaking that stuff

[frosty herald]

there is also a thing such as overbalancing a game and you forget to release new content

[delicate shadow]

look at the end of the day balance literally cannot come from only one direction or one approach

[spare dome]

nah we just have a handful of dumbo weapons and abilities presently and they heavily skew gameplay results when present

[split ibex]

New difficulty just pushes everyone to use the OP stuff more

[prisma sigil]

There is literally no game in the entire world that is perfectly balanced without broken or underpowered stuff

[lusty turtle]

this isn't to say the game needs across the board nerfs, its just theres more things at the moment that need nerfs than need buffs

[prisma sigil]

What you want is impossible

[spare dome]

so its easier to trim that handful than elevate everything else

[lusty turtle]

i think theres like, 3 weapons that need a buff right now total

[south folio]

we're not saying it has to be perfect

[prisma sigil]

If they nerf stuff then the complaints will just shift from 'everything is broken' to 'everything sucks'

Overwatch was objectively more fun when it was still new and all the busted shit was still in the game

[lusty turtle]

okay but thats because blizzard are shit devs

[split ibex]

False dichotomy. There are more options than 'perfect balance' and what we have now

[prisma sigil]

Overbalancing shit ruins games

[faint sinew]

this game is more balanced than old street fighters and smash bros games, I'll take that as the bare minimum

[lusty turtle]

overwatch couldn't balance for shit

[fading vale]

there are so many obvious broken singular things I don't really get the argument

[prisma sigil]

What I'm saying is I don't think our balance is THAT bad

There are some things that definitely need to be tuned down, like the kickback as mentioned

[coarse birch]

yeah i dont think nerfing the egregiously broken shit will make the game worse

[split ibex]

It is very bad right now

[coarse birch]

or be overbalancing

[delicate shadow]

I'm now coming to terms with the fact I'm one of the few people here that actually has experience balancing a game

[prisma sigil]

My issue is some people saying all classes need to be nerfed downwards across the board

[delicate shadow]

[spare dome]

when brigitte launched i realized they had completely lost sight of their own game cause that lady was fukken cray

[coarse birch]

i mean

they do

[south folio]

sure, but that stuff is only fun for the first few times

[fading vale]

aspects of every class need nerfs....

[lusty turtle]

its a strange experience

[coarse birch]

every class has egregious stuff

[south folio]

i've already been through a game where the developers initially thought that busted stuff was fun

[split ibex]

Look at Veteran ultimates. VoC is head and shoulders better than the other two

[south folio]

but with time, they realized that this sort of balancing was not good in the long run

[spare dome]

VoC is the best ult in the game

[royal vortex]

so the problem is there's a reason the game will spawn 20 of an elite at once when it didn't do this before

and it's because generally players are strong enough that on the highest difficulty you can dps check your way through fights with the majority of loadouts in the game

the reason end events like hab dreyko and warren have a super strong cahnce to have over half the total elite spawns for a match did not appear out of nowhere

[prisma sigil]

This is true, but the other two are underwhelming. Will nerfing VoC make the other ults better? No. People will still just pick VoC, even if its weaker

[spare dome]

yea i aint even gonna

dignify tha

[lusty turtle]

im actually awake now, josho or yoshi wanna dos ome matches again

[coarse birch]

i can run it for an hour before work 2

[royal vortex]

can't atm 😔

[lusty turtle]

joshi HATES me

[faint sinew]

nerfs need to be met with buffs, otherwise it's a case of it not being nerfed enough and people stick with it, or it gets nerfed to the ground and it never gets touched again

[lusty turtle]

[coarse birch]

joshi

whats that supposed to mean

[nimble fiber]

lol

[delicate shadow]

powercreep be a downward spiral

[nimble fiber]

u hate him apparently

[royal vortex]

with a community as dumb as the tide one i don't think this matters

[nimble fiber]

[spare dome]

so is my life

[fading vale]

also people completely misinterpret nerfs (chainsword, void, etc)

[lusty turtle]

stan possessed me

[royal vortex]

the chainsword had a nerf to the cleave on a single light strikedown and people thought it was ruined

[spare dome]

dont be judgin

[coarse birch]

void wasnt even a nerf

[fading vale]

but they just don't know how the game works at all

[coarse birch]

its the same weapon

[delicate shadow]

void still nukes maps lol

[coarse birch]

essentially

[lusty turtle]

no you don't understand alps, a single light on chainsword got nerfed and now its USELESS

[fading vale]

yeah void is still bonkers

[delicate shadow]

also holy shit you all got fucking ruined by stan

[fading vale]

pretty sure chainsword still has the fastest horde clear time lol

[faint sinew]

chainsword feels really good to me and I'm surprised it used to be better than what it is

[coarse birch]

do you still want to play if we dont have josho yoga

[left iron]

Bro the revolver nerf totally killed the gun bro, its not op anymore

[coarse birch]

me when i kill the entire elite spawn in one shot

[lusty turtle]

stan was on a roll the other day, there were no survivors

[south folio]

i can't believe they had a negative number in the patch notes

[royal vortex]

i would also generally put faith in fatshark mostly having balance trend towards good changes

because before p13/14 there were a lot of weapons with stats that were just

bad

even in a vacuum

[coarse birch]

yeah its much better now

[prisma sigil]

That was how I felt

It felt like a lot of weapons / builds were just trash

[spare dome]

remember when the stats were unlabeled bars

[delicate shadow]

Fatshark balancing is a slow and arduous process with many monkey's paws

[fading vale]

praise god that they buffed hammer stunlock time after removing the cancel

[delicate shadow]

but it has its moments

[royal vortex]

but u had a massive overcorrection between individual balance changes and the talent trees being released

with the amount of changes they made stupid stuff was always gonna get through

[lusty turtle]

up to you, fighting with a blanket atm

[prisma sigil]

I am wondering why kickback is still a thing

It's been like 4 months

[buoyant pecan]

stab it

[coarse birch]

im already in game so i can play

[prisma sigil]

I mean granted it was like

Awful before

[obtuse stirrup]

Which one?

[prisma sigil]

but now it's just insane

[vapid turtle]

just realized the killer in The Collection is literally a knife zealot

[buoyant pecan]

violently shank it

[fading vale]

old I think

[lusty turtle]

🔪

[buoyant pecan]

looks very lacerate flesb tearer

[split ibex]

Sure the other two need some help as well, but the fact is that before you get to the bottom of the vet tree right now there's effectively one good route down the tree. That's not good game design.
Some mix of buffs and nerfs are necessary but VoC is obviously overtuned

[vapid turtle]

XD

[fading vale]

crit CDR has existed since beta so

[prisma sigil]

for sure

VoC is boring good

[dark gulch]

what would we reccomend changing on this one?

[prisma sigil]

I don't play Vet a lot but I go deadshot/infiltrate/columnus when I do because it's fast and I get to move around a lot

[fading vale]

tstrike to hammerblow and groaners to flak

[faint sinew]

needs more stagger

[lusty turtle]

i'd put vs cara vs unyeilding on it but thats me

[fading vale]

cara and unyielding are fine too

but change tstrike and groaners

[dark gulch]

dont have hammerblow to put on it, so ill do cara+unyield

[coarse birch]

ngl arco and skele having the same name on a character is really throwing me off

[fading vale]

no no don't brick it

just change groaners

and wait until you have trauma or hammerblow

[coarse birch]

maniac is fine too

not a bricked perk

[fading vale]

that is what I was trying to get at

keep maniac

[lusty turtle]

damn, yoshi rejected my join request

this is fucked up

[dark gulch]

alright

[coarse birch]

I WAS ALT TABBED INTO DISCORD

[fading vale]

skissue

[royal vortex]

alt tab into salvation

u sinner

[coarse birch]

alt tab into some bitches

[royal vortex]

die

[faint sinew]

perish

[coarse birch]

ok

[left iron]

[faint sinew]

omg i'm red now

[south folio]

now take his happiness away

and make him gray again

[lusty turtle]

on it

[faint sinew]

mods, take his discord away

[south folio]

360 no scoped

[left iron]

The one that doesnt get hit by snipers is Skele

I have faith he dodges snipers

[delicate shadow]

Yoga might be less reliable though

[buoyant pecan]

Yoga isnt very reliable

[left iron]

Arco reliably blows up at least twice each match

[buoyant pecan]

i asked him for 900k USD and he didnt send it

[south folio]

no

[buoyant pecan]

[south folio]

i'm a changed man (i run venting shriek now)

[fading vale]

oh fuck brb there's a swimsuit episode

[buoyant pecan]

for what

tell me

[left iron]

Weak

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/now-dammit-skeletor-gif-13398390

[fading vale]

of course this is when you interject

[nimble fiber]

arco u came back?

[coarse birch]

ayo

queen was here previously

[lusty turtle]

🥹

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-gimme-the-sauce-gif-18547888

[fading vale]

it's just shitty anime don't worry about it

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/great-teacher-onizuka-gif-25044670

[south folio]

to kill you yes

[south folio]

the "don't worry about it" is carrying a lot

[fading vale]

I've been on a quest to find bingeable bad anime that is entertaining enough to watch

[left iron]

[nimble fiber]

im just happy that u with us again sibling

[south folio]

OHHHHHH you mean as psyker

[nimble fiber]

xD

[south folio]

i thought you were referring to like some minute-short interim that i wasn't chatting here

[nimble fiber]

lmao no

[south folio]

yeah i've been playing psyker a bit more

[nimble fiber]

yessir

[royal vortex]

he returns to the low skill class

[nimble fiber]

the side of siblings wasn't the same without u...

[buoyant pecan]

least cinematic HD2 moment

[delicate shadow]

I haven't played DT since december and just been on the Verm grindset again

[buoyant pecan]

i read this as bangable

[south folio]

i'm back to scare teammates with trauma circles under bursters

[left iron]

Arco always was a vet main

[zinc talon]

I did quite a bit of weapons overhaul mods for new vegas and fallout 3

[fading vale]

[zinc talon]

getting it to where joe shmoes rifle wasn't hands down the best in class cuz he wanted you to see it

basically sitting in the meatgrinder like I do now testing my own setups

I couldn't imagine trying to do that to a multi tho

[fading vale]

I still mix up arco and mankar in my head sometimes

[south folio]

wha

[fading vale]

I just see them as those two psykers I guess

[royal vortex]

@vocal pulsar

[nimble fiber]

how could u

rap battle part 2?

[south folio]

mankar doesn't deserve to be called a psyker

[zinc talon]

naw

yall should fight with fists

who can beat up whom

[left iron]

Im still a nobody to everyone

[zinc talon]

yknow, have a beat off

what

[south folio]

you don't exist

[left iron]

Im the cat_stare guy

[south folio]

TRUE

[left iron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bruh-annoyed-gif-21339312

[south folio]

slowice

[zinc talon]

sir and or madam

you missed the absolute comedy gold that is

AND ALSO

IDIOTS

[nimble fiber]

not true u think-15C is comfortable t-shirt weather

[zinc talon]

THERES AN EMPEROR OF HUMANKIND

every single one of you that isn't named that is now a traitor ship

[left iron]

Because it is

[zinc talon]

when you're dead

texas doesn't have winter, it hard ices

and that melts, and sits, and the mosquitoes breed

I got my first bite of the year in january

[left iron]

We're getting 30cm of snow by the end of this week

Or rather, have a chance to get

[nimble fiber]

it has stopped snowing over here, we only get raindrops

[vocal pulsar]

Translate to proper English please (American)

[nimble fiber]

uhm

[vocal pulsar]

He really said that

[left iron]

Sorry im too tired to convert into the rollercoaster units

[north sedge]

Yea...yea he did

On voice too

Can't blame phone

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-sweet-home-alabama-gif-9637175

[royal vortex]

This is why inches is easier

one of my favorite stan quotes ever

[left iron]

What, the rollercoaster?

[royal vortex]

dough post the thing

[south folio]

can't believe his sister is getting 20 centimeters

[nimble fiber]

.

lmao

[left iron]

Cant believe someone would choose not to use cubic meters

[nimble fiber]

wait stan said that???

[fading vale]

(it was snow)

[nimble fiber]

thank u
(I feel way better knowing the context)

[fading vale]

but he did type exactly that of course

[north sedge]

Nah it was voice

He didn't type it

[fading vale]

well whatever

[north sedge]

He just said that without the snow bit

[fading vale]

say type, whats the difference with stan

[fading vale]

his vocal autocorrect doesn't work either

[lusty turtle]

help we have an acca shout vet

[fading vale]

lol

[nimble fiber]

oh no!

team kill him

[left iron]

The rollercoaster propaganda

[split ibex]

(I actually hate Fahrenheit)

It's very dumb

[vocal pulsar]

Rude

[nimble fiber]

true tho

[delicate shadow]

moving to NA was hell in terms of converting shit

[delicate shadow]

imperial makes no fucking sense

[left iron]

Water freezes at 32F

[maiden path]

oops

wrong image

[south folio]

skill issue

[left iron]

Instead of at 0C

[delicate shadow]

C to F is at least pretty simple

[left iron]

True

But its still a hassle

[south folio]

simply remember multiple numbers of how to convert between different magnitudes instead of "10"

[delicate shadow]

inches, yards and miles to metric is fucking annoying

[split ibex]

I honestly do like the foot as a unit. It's very human sized. There needs to be something between cm and m that's regularly used

[delicate shadow]

feet is at least simple enough in that a foot is roughly 30cms

[still quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JDGPnLfH1Io

[visual blade]

for martyrdom, do i just load up on wounds and go ham?

[delicate shadow]

more or less yeah

[faint sinew]

yeah kinda, there's a lot more that'll help but that's the basic

[prisma sigil]

Don't just NOT heal though

[delicate shadow]

you don't need to get your health down to 1, only like down to 2.5 wounds-ish

[visual blade]

i'm not your average zealot

[delicate shadow]

and you can heal whenever needed it's nbd

[prisma sigil]

Unless you're going for the boss one-shots, you can just play and not worry about your wounds, but if you've gone down and have corrupted wounds, you should medicae

Not healing when you have half your wounds purple because of the damage bonus is deranged behavior

[visual blade]

my strat is always to take med station if i can (with more than reasonable etiquette) and to stay low as long as i have revenant

[prisma sigil]

Ye that's the way

[visual blade]

i lose revenant (or use it, whichever), i go heal to full until i have it back

[prisma sigil]

Also good imo

[split ibex]

You could also (and hear me out now) just not use martyrdom (I am very biased)

[visual blade]

i'm a big sword attack speed addict

[prisma sigil]

I only use martyrdom when I'm doing the shroudfield thammer thrust combo

and I want to crown daemonhosts

[split ibex]

I hope you can find the help you need 🙏🏻

[prisma sigil]

But it's super gimmicky so I don't usually run it

[still quartz]

I use Martyrdom when I feel like being a Kreiger

[visual blade]

saw some person literally oneshot a dh on damnation

thought they were cheating

[prisma sigil]

coulda been me

[visual blade]

EU?

[prisma sigil]

nah nvm

NA

[fading vale]

you can oneshot a DH with just stealth and hammer

don't need setup

[prisma sigil]

Yeah it's a gimmick but crowning Daemonhosts is delicious

[prisma sigil]

I don't think you need marty stacks but you do need Thrust

[fading vale]

you can also 2 shot them with chastise

[prisma sigil]

25 vs Unyielding helps too

[visual blade]

it's all coming together

[prisma sigil]

For plague ogryns you need like 4 or 5 stacks of marty

[fading vale]

every hammer is assumed to have thrust and unyielding

[prisma sigil]

for beasts/chaos spawns you only need like 2 or 3

also helps if you run whats-it-called that gives you like +20% bonus when out of stamina

It's not a meta build, it's all for the gimmick of literally one tapping them from 100% health

You could build better and kill them in just a few swings instead to be more adaptable

[frosty herald]

i find the metric system to be alot more easier

[prisma sigil]

but one tapping stuff is fun and activates neurons in the brain

[lusty turtle]

acca 7 shout tag vet 🥹

that was an experience to behold

[fleet zealot]

honsetly, i don't think recons can ever be balanced

[delicate shadow]

well recons are french

[fleet zealot]

they had one period of being good and they instantly became annoying and oppressive

[coarse birch]

dude

[prisma sigil]

Poor lasguns

[coarse birch]

that guy was

he was something

[lusty turtle]

heres the fun part

they were never good

[frosty herald]

AQUILLA

[fleet zealot]

nah the infan and helbore are in nice spots

[prisma sigil]

Another unpopular opinion but

[frosty herald]

WHY

ARE

RECONS

BULLPUP

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[prisma sigil]

I was a big fan of the fire patch

[fleet zealot]

nah that infinite rending patch was stupid

[delicate shadow]

tbf bullpup makes sense on weapons that don't eject shells at all

[frosty herald]

i hate it

[delicate shadow]

assuming barrel length still matters anyway

[lusty turtle]

even at their peak they only put out like 900 dps

[frosty herald]

i hate bullpups they look dumb and stupid and cringe

[prisma sigil]

they look cool 😦

[nimble fiber]

how was the match yoga?

[delicate shadow]

hey augs are smexy

[frosty herald]

the aug gets a pass

[prisma sigil]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NCZ4eXs66vY/maxresdefault.jpg

[delicate shadow]

christmas gun

[prisma sigil]

it has a cool lil carry handle

[coarse birch]

no dude they ruined it

[frosty herald]

legit just make a thompson into an automatic lasgun

[prisma sigil]

Fallout 4 flashbacks

[left iron]

I have been betrayed

[lusty turtle]

fun

although yoshi was running assail and void strike 💀

[frosty herald]

unironically peak aesthetic

[prisma sigil]

wait actually that was a mod

[coarse birch]

damn he skull emojid me

[frosty herald]

i saw a video

[median steeple]

I love the laser RCW

[nimble fiber]

yoshi knows whats fun

[prisma sigil]

ngl

[nimble fiber]

that shrimple

[coarse birch]

i did say before the match i was running my cheating loadout

[frosty herald]

of a dude throwing an orbital strike in the tutorial at the bugs

[coarse birch]

i did in fact cheat

[nimble fiber]

was it fun tho?

[frosty herald]

and the bug bounced the orbital strike back to the dude lmao

[lusty turtle]

cause the elysian drop troops are french

[prisma sigil]

I played Medal of Honor and CoD when I was young so I always preferred the stick mag look

[lusty turtle]

im sorry you found out this way

[prisma sigil]

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-hqfgd419q8/images/stencil/728x728/products/3521/7359/22-1093_LEFT_1K__76370.1580151076.jpg?c=2

[coarse birch]

i did enjoy myself

[prisma sigil]

I never really liked the Drum look

[delicate shadow]

I'ma be real

[royal vortex]

why would u cheat in a co op game

[delicate shadow]

the thompson is a shit gun

[coarse birch]

although i feel a little dirty

[royal vortex]

simply offload the problem onto ur teammates

[nimble fiber]

go take a shower then

[frosty herald]

2 wars BAYBEEE

[prisma sigil]

More than 2

[delicate shadow]

it never saw service in WW1 really lol

[faint sinew]

no, only one for that gun

[prisma sigil]

It was in Vietnam and the Korean War

[delicate shadow]

and it got replaced in WW2 because people hated it

[frosty herald]

only ones i know of are ww2 and nam

[faint sinew]

it got replaced in ww2 cause it cost too damn much

[delicate shadow]

it also wasn't a good gun

compared to the grease gun

[prisma sigil]

They kept it until Nam

[delicate shadow]

like it was more expensive AND worse

and heavier

[frosty herald]

fucking using m16 in a tropical rainforest getting mud and sand and getting it moist

BLEh

[fleet zealot]

i'm eating good tonight

ordered a pulled pork sandwich with brisket fries

[coarse birch]

😔

[prisma sigil]

Honestly idc about its real life efficacy, it's cool, I like the way it looks and sounds in the video games I've used it in

[frosty herald]

stupid americans not realizing that vietnamese were against the khmer rogue bleh

[coarse birch]

hey i did well with taxe 2 and agri revo i earned one cheat game

[prisma sigil]

It went out of service like two generations ago so it's effectiveness doesn't matter

[lusty turtle]

that doesn't really say much tbh considering america still basically uses the m14 despite it being a piece of shit

[frosty herald]

use good platforms dammit

[delicate shadow]

the magic of old war stock and inventory

[royal vortex]

so close melk

[fleet zealot]

cheaters in darktide are weird

[prisma sigil]

still not sure why the m14 has an automatic fire rate option

[faint sinew]

why use new when old is cheap

[frosty herald]

i dont care if they have to put 4 rails on an ak

[prisma sigil]

People cheat on Darktide?

[nimble fiber]

its ok to cheat sometimes

[fleet zealot]

haven't seen more than 1 ingame

[frosty herald]

yes

[fleet zealot]

but it was obvious

[frosty herald]

aimbot

[prisma sigil]

I don't think I've ever actually seen one, at least if I have I wasn't aware

Dam

That's

Sad

How the fuck are you gonna need to cheat on Darktide

[nimble fiber]

no not actually cheat lmao

[fleet zealot]

it was aimbot recon in like, month 3

[frosty herald]

autoclicker isnt banned EXCEPT canceling into repeated first strike in a combo

[prisma sigil]

No real need to ban autoclickers in a PVE game

[fleet zealot]

it was really obvious when he was blasting horde perfectly bouncing head to head, 180'd cause a bruiser was coming behind him, then immediately went back to blasting horde

autoclickers are fine if the don't exploit anything

[median steeple]

holy shit I hate steams cloud system

[frosty herald]

it was crab with an alt

[lusty turtle]

or it was commissar tyr

[faint sinew]

cheating on single player games is fine, cheating in co-op is annoying for us and depressing for them, cheating in pvp should get you sentenced to life on a cambodian oil tanker

[lusty turtle]

ogryn chat will never forgive him for compensating the ripper recoil

[flint birch]

dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee if anyone hasnt tried the perfect strike heavy eviscerator... this thing is insane

[fleet zealot]

i had a relative who was a cheating addict

[frosty herald]

crab has actual insane aiming

[flint birch]

FOTF into a crusher/mauler pack and it doesnt matter...

[fleet zealot]

you ever see those compilations of banned hackers

he was the exact stereotype

[prisma sigil]

It's crazy

[frosty herald]

that lady who blamed her friend lmao

[median steeple]

I love watching speedrun cheater scandals

[lusty turtle]

oh i know i've played with the dude a bunch, but tyr genuinly got accused of cheating ages back because of the way he uses the ripper

[prisma sigil]

We have more resources and investment than our military than anyone else

[nimble fiber]

anyway, what is your favorite fruit?

[prisma sigil]

and yet we can't make guns as robust as our competitors

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[fleet zealot]

well i payed for it it's my game

[coarse birch]

uhh probably rasp/blackberries

or pineapple

[fleet zealot]

everyone else cheats too

just really sad behavior

[frosty herald]

dems using military grade to describe something when military grade means close to dogshit but not yet

[nimble fiber]

noice
mine are oranges, dark cherrys, and strawberries I think

[prisma sigil]

Not a dem thing but a corporation thing honestly

The amount of times I see 'military grade' equipment being advertised or sold somewhere

but yeah military grade means it's cheap and probably fucked

[median steeple]

oh

steam fucking died

[nimble fiber]

rip

[prisma sigil]

Oh it did

[frosty herald]

as cheap as possible and works barely

[spare dome]

my helldive ;_;

[frosty herald]

itl be back in like 30 seconds

[ripe quest]

steam tuesday

[spare dome]

my three SPAMPLES

LOST

[median steeple]

well at least I got that new helmet before the servers died

[nimble fiber]

I wanna eat some fried duck with noodles and peanut sauce ngl

[median steeple]

how does duck even taste

[frosty herald]

peking duck

[lusty turtle]

pgud

[nimble fiber]

like bird

[lusty turtle]

i like eating duck

[spare dome]

tastes fly af

[nimble fiber]

yessir

[frosty herald]

couldnt i legally just kidnap 10 moscobi ducks and eat them

[north sedge]

steam wednesday

[coarse birch]

duck is very good

[ripe quest]

steam tuesday

[nimble fiber]

ducks are sometimes adorable
but I would still eat them

[frosty herald]

WE BALL

[median steeple]

I LOVE CHARGER SPAM

[nimble fiber]

favorite sauce to put on duck?

[north sedge]

hell yea

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-mini-gun-gif-18507819

ripping off the sleeves from my heavy suit of armor and beating the fuck out of these robots

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-2-ahti-janitor-singing-saga-anderson-gif-869062638475049120

[spare dome]

day five on malevelon creek

[median steeple]

the servers live

[frosty herald]

also

[left iron]

Trust no one, not even your own shield generator

[median steeple]

nevermind they died again

[frosty herald]

@ornate bone RIPTIDE IS A GOOD GAME!!!

i will not accept slander of my favourite game i played when i was 15

[median steeple]

oh yeah blue beams are the only strats to track

[ornate bone]

Definitive motion sickness edition

[median steeple]

https://medal.tv/games/helldivers-2/clips/1UZGKhxhHopagM/d1337fgkQw0c?invite=cr-MSxWdGIsMTk0NjM5OTEyLA

[frosty herald]

if i had helldivers 2

the uttter dumb shit i would do

i will explode myself so i can move faster

[elfin steppe]

where is my patch fatshark

[median steeple]

this game is a clip generator

[left iron]

[elfin steppe]

i want my Evi fixed

[median steeple]

that shit is never getting fixed

like with OP

[north sedge]

they're gonna make the stagger worse

just for you

[elfin steppe]

me don't like you people

[lusty turtle]

@royal vortex we just throwin this lmao

[royal vortex]

i was doing so good and then

dog

[lusty turtle]

same

i was doing so good then just

[royal vortex]

i am super not a fan of flamers in general

[lusty turtle]

gun in open

[royal vortex]

getting disabled into fire and just perishing is not fun

[prisma sigil]

out of context this is hilarious

[nimble fiber]

the special flamer combo is so horrible

[coarse birch]

Oh so i leave and yall lose

[prisma sigil]

but i also agree I am not a fan of flamers

They are super cool but unnecessary

[coarse birch]

Flamers are fine on there own just annoying when a mutie grabs you into fire/chaos spawn

But i should also be punished for getting grabbed

[ripe quest]

Honestly now knowing that it does what it does I'm ok w/ it.

It's similar to rippers liking low stagger.

[prisma sigil]

OH you're talking about the enemies?

[coarse birch]

Yeah

[prisma sigil]

Oh

[coarse birch]

Like he got disabled

Into flames

And died

[prisma sigil]

I am dumb

Honestly I wouldn't be too harsh on the flamers for that

[ripe quest]

Flamer, the weapon, is super goated still.

[prisma sigil]

It can also happen with crusher overheads lmfao

[coarse birch]

Nope no ammo

Unusable

[north sedge]

no it's not ok sir! i am demanding a refund for this staggerless abomination

[ripe quest]

It still being able to kill Crushers fast is absurd, only counter is a Bulwark wall and even then the movespeed of most enemies will kill them.

[median steeple]

flamer doesn't do my taxes so its the worse weapon in the game

[ripe quest]

It staggers but it's just locked at a light stagger.

[north sedge]

I know I'm just doing the overreacting bit

For fun

[ripe quest]

An interesting benefit of this is that stagger thresholds are based on the type of stagger, so Mk XV Evis actually has absurd stagger by rev standards.

Since the first three lights are seen as rev attacks n all.

[coarse birch]

Yeah its very safe given its speed

Thanks to that

[ripe quest]

I'm a bit mixed on it because on one hand, not being able to medium or heavy stagger is a dual bladed sword and has some cool benefits but on the other, it is a bug.

[elfin steppe]

I don't want to explain this anymore. It makes you pretty vulnerable if you dive more than three gunners.

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-helldivers-surprised-shocked-scared-gif-14616193401603705407

[spare dome]

yea well the satisfaction i get from locking down a crowd of bruisers and maulers at 5 martyr stacks with the mk15 shant be infringed upon

[ripe quest]

I haven't checked recently, do the three lights stagger a gunner out of firing?

Theoretically it should be able to.

[coarse birch]

Im p sure you can but its been a bit since i used it

Although rampage could affect it

[north sedge]

If there's a large group one or two have time to take like 3 steps back

[elfin steppe]

I don't actually remember, but you are supposed to completely knock them out of balance like the chainaxe, instead of like tickling them.

I posted the videos so many times, I don't think it should be an argument.

[placid fiber]

Hm, well I found an easy way I can test light 3's from the rashad on meat grinder enemies... after the heavy 2 it does a light 3.

That way I can test aiming it specifically at enemy heads, instead of getting body shots

[lusty turtle]

@royal vortex wat the fuck was that lag 💀

i got put back under the crusher smash after dodging

[royal vortex]

dude did you have stuff teleport backwards and then forwards

i was legit like phasing between timelines

[coarse birch]

Apparently steam is down?

Other channels mentioned

[elfin steppe]

It's more like the crusher phasing through you.

[south folio]

shrill issue

[fleet zealot]

zzzeepy

[royal vortex]

it was fine until that horde

[royal vortex]

idk what i died to i saw my healthbar tick to fire but on my screen i was never standin in it

[nimble fiber]

game was once so bugged a hound flew threw the ground, I saw the game from bird perspective and the game crashed lmao

[delicate shadow]

steam is a bit cooked rn

[lusty turtle]

ye think i might take a break from dt for a bit and hope the servers stabilize lmao

[elfin steppe]

I miss space hound

[nimble fiber]

I said game 2 much

[royal vortex]

😔

[elfin steppe]

They shouldn't fix that

[royal vortex]

how could fatshark do this to us

[south folio]

game

[coarse birch]

Game

[nimble fiber]

NOOOOOO

[royal vortex]

i also can't believe how ridiculous scriers laspistol with empathic evasion is vs gunners

[coarse birch]

Yeah

Its quite good

[lusty turtle]

laspistol needs another nerf

6x crit weakspot is not okay

[coarse birch]

Yeah its still a little nuts

Esp with its fire rate

[royal vortex]

yeah it should be 12x at least

its true

[lusty turtle]

[coarse birch]

I need to one tap everything on my no recoil weapon i can reliably hipfjre

[lusty turtle]

accatran players be like

[median steeple]

fuck man

I really wish accatran could be good without being busted

[royal vortex]

attempt number 3 of logging on to my vet to look at melk

[coarse birch]

Dude i watched that recon player we got just shoot a mauler for 10 minutes

What was his melee damage actually

[nimble fiber]

did he win?

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rael-gif-943215023730044045

[royal vortex]

i forgot how fun ds4 is vs mauler swarms

[void bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/224204287985713154/1200517749118619758/descend.gif

[royal vortex]

too much voidstrike brainrot

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/ppkk04-funny-annimals-forg-toad-genius-gif-8013376

[royal vortex]

u just mash spacebar and stab guys

[frosty herald]

WE NEED NEW WEAPONS RAHHHHH

[coarse birch]

Wait he only did 43k ranged

[median steeple]

pleas

[void bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/224204287985713154/1200517414715146282/ascend.gif

[coarse birch]

Bruh

[median steeple]

i need a helgun

[frosty herald]

i need

[median steeple]

beeg

[frosty herald]

a heavy bolter and power greatsword

[coarse birch]

Psyker melee good

[median steeple]

still waiting for the melta

god

[nimble fiber]

no don't go yog

[coarse birch]

Use it

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/juggernaut-mw-modern-warfare-cod-call-of-duty-gif-3214228519352779694

[royal vortex]

um

[coarse birch]

Psyker melee best part of melee

Er

Psyker

[median steeple]

they're summoning a new mission

[nimble fiber]

Er

[frosty herald]

raid boss time

[nimble fiber]

wait what

[royal vortex]

thats a funny ui bug

[lusty turtle]

it can be, very easily

[coarse birch]

Its numbers are just giga sad

[tropic harbor]

With their powers combined the Auric missions are summoning a new maelstrom

[lusty turtle]

uhhh not bad but half his ranged damage, but it was a powersword so 💀

[lusty turtle]

yup

[coarse birch]

Yeah given i never saw him melee

Im shocked at those numbers

Truly a recon moment

[lusty turtle]

my fav bit is acca hasn't been nerfed, as much as people say it has

it was NEVER good

[coarse birch]

Its amazing what literally infinite ammo can do to people

[south folio]

brrrrrrrr

[median steeple]

it was only "good" when you uber stacked rending

[frosty herald]

i had a dude ask me why i didnt run survivalist vet on flak melee

[nimble fiber]

nah but fr tho psyker melee best part of melee og

[zinc talon]

yep, when it snows here in texas the ground isn't the only thing getting three to four inches

[coarse birch]

Arco strikes me as someone who would use infinite ammo recon

[lusty turtle]

they didn't stack cause they were brittleness (other than the 15% raw rending node)

[south folio]

mayhaps

[coarse birch]

Also arco josho is being mean to me i think you were right all along

[buoyant pecan]

@lusty turtle wanna see how shit is going in the Hell Divers 2 Official Discord?

[south folio]

I did use 510% ammo with the recon one game

[vocal pulsar]

arco strikes me as an idiot

[buoyant pecan]

[coarse birch]

Thats a given

[lusty turtle]

AND accatran already has 1.0 into flak so the rending only buffs your cara really

[median steeple]

please fs

[south folio]

join the domestic abuse support group against josho

[nimble fiber]

oof mankar

[median steeple]

i m begging

[coarse birch]

I am signing up

[lusty turtle]

oh god

how bad is it?

[buoyant pecan]

like their discord is an actual toaster fire

[south folio]

I'll strike you

[coarse birch]

Reported

[nimble fiber]

blocked

[buoyant pecan]

I made an edit

[median steeple]

everyone is spamming F last I checked

[south folio]

wtf!!!!

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/philip-steens-gif-18266475

[ionic nymph]

Armory sold me a 21% and 17% at the same time

[coarse birch]

I thought helldivers players were happy 😭

Gamers are some ass

[ionic nymph]

Great shop reset

[buoyant pecan]

thats just the Gen chat

[zinc talon]

eh

[coarse birch]

Except you guys yall are cool

[buoyant pecan]

everyone else is civil

[zinc talon]

the missions can get downright fucking stressful

[coarse birch]

Minus arco

[south folio]

wha