zealot-class

[calm salmon]

yeah, but thats mostly because middle is like "here's everything that's stupidly overpowered on vet"

[coarse birch]

suppression makes me very sad

[calm salmon]

though you are, indeed, correct.

[polar nexus]

i was a sustained fire bolter vet user, never a counterfire one

[coarse birch]

shout and grenade regen + improv in the middle tree is already a lot

and iron will

[burnt ivy]

I went down the right on my zealot

[royal vortex]

i dont know if i ever used sustained fire in a match

[polar nexus]

so f = toughness = dmg is ingrained in my brain

[royal vortex]

it was counterfire or tbta

[burnt ivy]

enough points to begin branching. He can boogie

[royal vortex]

tbta bolter in monstrous specials was some shit

[calm salmon]

sustained fire was only really good for like

[polar nexus]

i was just adsing for snipers or faraway targets

[calm salmon]

maelstrom

[light holly]

Which frankly it's insane that at least one of the grenade upgrades isn't on one of the other sides

Both are center

[calm salmon]

with 16 specials on no cooldown on waves

so you needed all 30 kills immediately

[coarse birch]

im a big fan of tbta

if i can afford it

[burnt ivy]

flamer

[calm salmon]

TBTA was good for monster maelstrom though

it was really funny turning a weakened plague ogryn into paste in 15 bullets

[burnt ivy]

flamer should kill most of them at the same time

[royal vortex]

bulwarks become food for the bolter engine

[calm salmon]

or a full health beast of nurgle

[coarse birch]

good

bulwarks deserve it

waste my time ass mob

[burnt ivy]

nurgle ate Skrat x3 in a row

[polar nexus]

i do love when a friendly teamate is dosing me with red stimm just before a boss lol

[light holly]

I looove bolter with exe and focus target on vet like nothing else

[coarse birch]

yeah getting stimmed is nice

although as the psyker im rarely the boss damage

[royal vortex]

i have ppl inject me with conc stims on exe stance vet and its like

wh

this is the worst ult in the game for it besides scriers

i appreciate the help but like

why

[light holly]

They just wanna help

[burnt ivy]

peppered a bullwurk in its but, with hotshot and killed it

[calm salmon]

I distribute strange, and probably used, needles to everyone equally Josho.

You can't stop me.

Ogryn can't read

[polar nexus]

i red stimm quite a lot

[coarse birch]

i would stim people more if it wasnt a pain to do

they gotta stand still for 10 seconds

[royal vortex]

i am almost exclusively hit with stims when a boss shows up

[calm salmon]

red stim is objectively the best stim

without a doubt

then its green stim

yellow and blue are big meh

[royal vortex]

the rando pub player is there to give me the yellow highlights

[coarse birch]

hey i stimmed you after that ogryn stood in the elevator and let the burster kill us

[light holly]

Conc stim is like kinda shit for real

[royal vortex]

conc stim is really good on certain builds

[light holly]

Hmm

[royal vortex]

but some ults just dont care

[calm salmon]

conc stim can be funny on PBB

[light holly]

[calm salmon]

but like

PBB is the best one for it

[royal vortex]

on shout i would take it over a red stim

[calm salmon]

other ults all have super short cooldowns

[light holly]

Like I feel like

[royal vortex]

same with shriek psyker

[calm salmon]

yeah, shout's the other one

you can get uh

3?

shouts

[burnt ivy]

this game is faf

[calm salmon]

per stim

[light holly]

You get like 1 more extra ult on shout

[coarse birch]

i never take conc cause i p much just run scriers

[light holly]

Which feels bad

[royal vortex]

it feels p good when you're able to extend how long you keep shit from getting out of hand

the damage stim is basically just vibes

[burnt ivy]

glad grenades were fixed, but lost my mic

[light holly]

Its like I could get a red stim to just reset the CD on VOC

[calm salmon]

Conc stim on PBB is hilarious though

[light holly]

Way faster

[calm salmon]

172% toughness from IB

172% toughness from IB again due to PBB

172% toughness from IB again due to conc stim

[royal vortex]

but i can tell u that sometimes a yellow stim has saved my life

[light holly]

Oh for sure

I can agree as much

[calm salmon]

IB is inspiring barrage for chat

[burnt ivy]

Do I want high toughness, regen or health for my melee zealot?

[calm salmon]

since you're not ogryns

[royal vortex]

i pop red stims for dumb shit because i can't measure its usefulness beyond "this number is bigger"

[royal vortex]

any combination of toughness/hp works

[coarse birch]

toughness

hp works too

but people generally value toughness

[polar nexus]

does red stimm have value on plasma?

[royal vortex]

probs for falloff damage

since it gives rending

[polar nexus]

i tend to redstim, ogryns, zealots and iag / brauto users

ok

[coarse birch]

red stim + chastise on brauto goes crazy

[polar nexus]

i hardly see any brauto now

a lot of ciag... and since telopots video, more bolters

[coarse birch]

columnus brauto is like my main gun on zealot

[polar nexus]

which is a good thing tbh

[ancient brook]

I'm falling in love with the autopistol

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/7cez68

brauto + tknives is insanity

[sacred jay]

I pretty much prioritize the yellow stimm unless im shroudfield, then i try to get red

[burnt ivy]

hellborne shredder

[royal vortex]

since knives stack ff/ds

[coarse birch]

also @royal vortex i think we need to make a bolter guide because the bolter vets im getting in my lobbies are not it

[royal vortex]

[coarse birch]

guess which one was the bolter

[royal vortex]

karl carried u

i think the problem is

[ancient brook]

hellborne?

Is that a blessing?

[royal vortex]

ppl don't anticipate bolter being finesse heavy

[ancient brook]

I just have Pinning Fire + Blaze Away

[coarse birch]

people do not ADS that thing

they dump into chests

[royal vortex]

u will get a lot of guys who just want to magdump based on vibe

[calm salmon]

me

that is me

I am them

[polar nexus]

that's ok

[calm salmon]

BIG MAG GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

stubber my beloved

😍

[polar nexus]

if you have ammo aura and it's not a horde

[jovial forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/454841425088217099/1206511547057180722/image.png?ex=65dc4670&is=65c9d170&hm=31816f60f987732b4752dc489ee56c623a7b3c3191e2e0a3bfd67b1597166960& thoughts on the overkill damage build?

[royal vortex]

and if you wanna do that you have to have good situational awareness to assess

[ancient brook]

BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM

[royal vortex]

"what is magdump worthy"

[calm salmon]

or just grab an achlys

and have 800 ammo

[royal vortex]

because i have watched people fire 15 bolter rounds in an outline around a handful of dreg gunners i am meleeing

[calm salmon]

[royal vortex]

from like 30 meters away

[burnt ivy]

missed that. was looking at Trackir

[royal vortex]

and its like i know u tried man

[livid siren]

FOR THE GOLDEN THROOOOOOOOONE, TO ARMS! A RAGER, ANOTHER RAGER SENT TO HEL, JUDGEMENT HAS BEEN DELIVERED, A CRYONIC ROD, BEHOLD ANOTHER SLAIN RAGER!

[ancient brook]

Bolter magdump into the back of a BON is peak

[royal vortex]

lmao

[sacred jay]

Magdumping trapper

[calm salmon]

this scoreboard always makes me laugh

13, 6, 1

for ammo picked up

13 x 130

6 x 330

1x 800

[polar nexus]

wait, you can still stagger them a bit

[coarse birch]

whenever i hear cryonic rod i just think of joshos possesed night of cryonic rod

[calm salmon]

for total ammo picked up

[royal vortex]

we dont talk about that

[coarse birch]

i was worried about you

[polar nexus]

you may not kill them but the suppression and the stagger can be enough

[coarse birch]

you went back to normal the next game even

[royal vortex]

the problem is that bolter is super ammo inefficient so spending a bunch of rounds to stagger is something you only do to avoid certain death or get a teammate up

[calm salmon]

4,470 ammo picked up, give or take.

I fucking love ogryn

[royal vortex]

and a lot of the time ppl aren't doing this when they magdump dumb stuff

[polar nexus]

ah yeah ok, i mean if i am a vet i don't care

[ancient brook]

I'm starting to understand the zealot love

But Ogryn is my one true love

[polar nexus]

but i'll propably throw a nade tbh

[royal vortex]

yea

there's a lot of stagger options atm

[ancient brook]

Crusher makes me weep and wish Power Maul was good

[polar nexus]

i do appreciate someone trying

[royal vortex]

it is absolutely insane how long you can spend at 30 rounds on bolter with vet

[lofty shell]

It's like edging but you get 0 satisfaction out of it.

[coarse birch]

josho i lied im not running warp charges

[south folio]

YEAH BOOOOOOOOOI

[royal vortex]

😔

[polar nexus]

meanwhile 30 rounds for a zealot is like 2 charges

[coarse birch]

changed my mind

[polar nexus]

crusher + bolter is my favorite combo rn

it has an answer to everything

[south folio]

(i was completely uninvolved with yoshi's sudden change in mind)

[royal vortex]

i have a lot of fun with hs7 bolter because you can fill a killfeed with every elite type p much

[coarse birch]

Hsword bolter works v well

yeah

with tknives

covers all bases p much

[zealous basin]

guys what do u think

is she excited

[polar nexus]

dclaw bolter is good in crit build

[zealous basin]

if u use dclaw ur a virgin

[royal vortex]

she is going to harvest your organs

[zealous basin]

god i hope so

[coarse birch]

shes either gonna kill you or itll be a memorable night

[polar nexus]

probably both

[royal vortex]

i cant really use the dclaw for long

[coarse birch]

josho are you playing or are you just testing stuff

[royal vortex]

the weapon doesnt feel super good to use to me

[coarse birch]

yeah dclaw is neat

but like

[royal vortex]

im currently letting my headset charge

[coarse birch]

not super interesting

[royal vortex]

i was messing around with some spare bolters i had lying around but they all have maniac locked in

[coarse birch]

mk7 is a bit more interesting

[polar nexus]

p12 bolter be like

[coarse birch]

does letting your headset charge mean youll be on later or does it just mean you are letting the headset charge

i want to atone

[royal vortex]

i will be on later

[coarse birch]

for my gameplay earlier

[zealous basin]

why tf are ug uys playing this game

and not diving into hell 2

[coarse birch]

ill start helldivers 2 soon

[zealous basin]

broke ass bitches lmao

[coarse birch]

i can afford it

meanie

[zealous basin]

[polar nexus]

i prefer the dclaw to the hsword

[coarse birch]

i work 2 jobs

i dont wanna hear it

[burnt ivy]

anybody want to run coherency? Flaming zealot

[zealous basin]

working 2 jobs is the most broke bitch shit ever LMAO

[polar nexus]

i dunno, the feeling is different

[coarse birch]

i hope she harvests your organs

[ripe quest]

Lightning shaped skill tree and you don't even have smite. L.

[coarse birch]

fuck smite

[zealous basin]

honestly

i've already been dealing with a bigger psychic L

[coarse birch]

smite is for broke bitches

[zealous basin]

dont worry about it

its legitimately so cringe im not going to post it here

[polar nexus]

assuming helldivers is gonna last

[silent hull]

which do you recommend on axes headtaker or decimator?

[zealous basin]

i'mm already living my penance

[polar nexus]

headtaker + bm is the safest

[ripe quest]

You have a theme and you fail to fulfill it. Raisin-ass.

[coarse birch]

how is getting your organs harvested a psychic L that seems p physical

[coarse birch]

you dont even wanna play with a smite psyker

[polar nexus]

decimator is more power but you can lose it fast

[coarse birch]

i know you

[zealous basin]

no im saying

[south folio]

you deserve bad internet

[zealous basin]

the psychic L that im currently dealing with

[obsidian prairie]

First one is still going

[zealous basin]

is a way bigger L than having my organs harvested

[coarse birch]

ah i see

wait i could run smite to fuck with arco

hmmm

[south folio]

you motherfucker

[coarse birch]

arco please help me with this poxwalkers OwO

he wouldnt be able to resist

[polar nexus]

with 300 people on steam, no?

[zealous basin]

@south folio fuck

[ripe quest]

Ah but you have a theme. That bypasses all balance and meta. I'd much rather play with a lightning themed Psyker than a smite Psyker.

[south folio]

die

[obsidian prairie]

Better than other, higher production titles I could mention

[coarse birch]

i would love to run a lightning psyker

[zealous basin]

its called a cult classic you stupid zoomer fuck

[coarse birch]

but smite makes me want to die

[zealous basin]

sorry ur generation wouldnt understand the CONCEPR

[coarse birch]

CONCEPR

[obsidian prairie]

Damn calm down

[ripe quest]

Arco I have no quarrels with you, you'd be best to keep it that way.

[zealous basin]

yeah

?

[polar nexus]

dude

i am older than you

[zealous basin]

lick my balls keet is 800 years old

[ripe quest]

[coarse birch]

wait exhil we have no quarrels

[zealous basin]

zoomer is just the ultimate insult

[coarse birch]

yet you are coming in hot

[polar nexus]

i was born before the wall in Berlin fell

[zealous basin]

like

were u not offended

?

[coarse birch]

this is just flip

he is ok

[ripe quest]

You have a theme and you fail to fulfill it, seems self-explanatory.

[zealous basin]

x

[south folio]

i seethe

[coarse birch]

give me lightning sword and maybe i commit

[obsidian prairie]

Oh wait they’re here normally

[ripe quest]

Are you or are you not a bottom

[obsidian prairie]

Damn free pass

[coarse birch]

also its more flames based than lightning based

that is not a question

arco is a bottom

[zealous basin]

[south folio]

no

[zealous basin]

[coarse birch]

if arco was a top he would fall off

[zealous basin]

god damnit

[ripe quest]

And I am not a bottom, I do not speak bottom = warranted comment.

[south folio]

my balance is fine

[ripe quest]

Thank you for the hugs arco

[south folio]

no

[royal vortex]

brutal

[ripe quest]

xoxo

[south folio]

no

no

there were no Os

[ripe quest]

The triangles look like a heart

[south folio]

no

[coarse birch]

proof you wouldnt fall off? didnt think so

[south folio]

no

[coarse birch]

arco has such good friends

🙂

[zealous basin]

arco is cool and gives good head

huh

i mean what

[south folio]

fr*ends

[calm salmon]

uh

good to know I guess?

[zealous basin]

[south folio]

no

[coarse birch]

so you give bad head

[south folio]

no

[calm salmon]

[ripe quest]

We're still friends you just are, from my understanding, a bottom.

[south folio]

wha

what understanding

[zealous basin]

whats our working definition of bottom

[south folio]

from where has this false understanding been obtained

[coarse birch]

hey it doesnt have to be a bad thing

[zealous basin]

just to make sure we're all on the same page

[coarse birch]

some people are into that

[calm salmon]

All I know is that arco plays darktide on a potato from the irish famine

[ripe quest]

All of your fr*ends

[south folio]

the potato is from a very nice farm from a good era of time

[zealous basin]

bottom by proxy

[coarse birch]

arcos laptop is the best potato

[calm salmon]

we love when games look like actual pudding

https://tenor.com/view/big-if-true-gif-26088821

[coarse birch]

arcos graphics have charm

[calm salmon]

arco playing with darktide

[ripe quest]

We love input lag

[calm salmon]

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058146534111334513/1158805091562815671/m.gif

[coarse birch]

i will still recognize arcos game in 20 years

[coarse birch]

cant say that for anyone else

well

exhils too ig

[zealous basin]

jinx

[calm salmon]

do you actually have to play with the game looking like that

or do you just choose to

[south folio]

semi-choose

[calm salmon]

either way, respect

[south folio]

my laptop's not that bad but i do like my frames

[zealous basin]

do u have to go outside looking like that

or do u just choose to

[coarse birch]

i think he would have to to get 60 fps

iirc

[coarse birch]

rude

[south folio]

it still dips during combat 😔

[calm salmon]

yeah I don't have great fps myself

[zealous basin]

if peopel didnt want to be called ugly they wouldnt be ugly

👍

[calm salmon]

but I'm only willing to put up with minimum settings

[ripe quest]

I'm the peak gaming because I don't go below my refresh rate during a Hi5 horde

[coarse birch]

i get fine enough FPS on max settings for me

[calm salmon]

Fatshark's performance updates have done some good stuff for minimum settings though

[south folio]

i appreciate good graphics but the feel of darktide carries it for me so i'm fine with poopoo graphics

[coarse birch]

i have debated turning it down

[calm salmon]

I can get up to 104 fps with no enemies on screen now

[coarse birch]

for more FPS

[calm salmon]

instead of 50

so that's cool

[zealous basin]

if my frames ever drop beneath 120 ever i die irl

[ripe quest]

I get 180 during hordes

[zealous basin]

like i have a device rigged up where i have to put a noose around my neck

when i game

[coarse birch]

looks like your already dead then

[calm salmon]

look at these rich fucks

[zealous basin]

and if my frames drop below 120 BAM

[royal vortex]

i am more at risk of randomly disconnecting if too many enemies appear when my internet is acting up

[calm salmon]

with their 3080tis and whatever

[coarse birch]

i am not rich

[zealous basin]

yes its called a job

[ripe quest]

6 year old computer

[zealous basin]

👍

[ripe quest]

we ball

[coarse birch]

exhils graphics are like arcos

to clarify

[calm salmon]

that makes more sense

[ripe quest]

got my computer at 20% off because the clip that holds the 2080 in it broke in a completely cosmetic way

[zealous basin]

you should get a computer for 18 year olds at least tbh

[coarse birch]

a 3080 TI is probably not getting 180 fps even on lowest settings in this game sadly

[calm salmon]

that is correct

my buddy could only get ~100 on release

with dips to 45

fuckin fatshark

[ripe quest]

Oh dude I was lucky going past 30 back at launch

[calm salmon]

samesies

[coarse birch]

i go from 120-80ish but i also spent too much on my PC

[calm salmon]

I got 30-40

[coarse birch]

idk what i got at release

i had an older card

probs 60

[royal vortex]

i miss when u would crash half the time u opened a yellow box

[calm salmon]

i have a 1080ti and r5 5600x

soon™️ I'll get a 5800x3d

[coarse birch]

1080ti is a great card tbf

that used to be like

THE shit

[calm salmon]

I got it from my buddy

and I'll probably get his 3080ti

we love hand-me-down trains

and my brother will get my 1080ti

[coarse birch]

i recently got a 7900xt so im hopefully not upgrading for years

5800x3d is a very good card

card

cpu

lol

[lofty shell]

My specs are the exact same as the "recommended specs" for 40k spacemarine 2

Which feels bad

[coarse birch]

@south folio whats in your laptop anyway

[calm salmon]

yeah, i see no reason to leave the am4 platform for am5

[coarse birch]

im also on am4

[calm salmon]

when I have the 5800x3d right there for an upgrade path

[south folio]

ryzen 5800u and rtx 3050ti mobile

it's like a 90w laptop

[coarse birch]

yeah i was gonna say

[south folio]

i think 25w max for my cpu?

[coarse birch]

probably

[south folio]

i forget

[coarse birch]

its not very big

iirc

[south folio]

yeah it's an ultrathin

[coarse birch]

well probably easier to carry than my fuckin

30 pound desktop

[coarse birch]

if your upgrading mobo might as well but if your just gonna get top end am4 its fine

i think people make it out to be a bigger deal than it is

i use a ryzen 9 5900x and its fine

have you upgraded to win 11 yet arco

[calm salmon]

the fact that you play darktide on a low-mid end laptop blows my mind

still best psyker this side of the cicatrix maledictum

[south folio]

nah i like my windows 10 ui

[coarse birch]

me too

[royal vortex]

he's a vet main now

[coarse birch]

yeah

i play more psyker than him now

[south folio]

i get to play both sides by saying i'm a vet and psyker main

[coarse birch]

far less total though

[calm salmon]

I am ogryn main

[south folio]

i'm probably going to play psyker more in premades since i get to zoom and still do good damage

[calm salmon]

me love big guy

machine gun go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[coarse birch]

hey thats my job

[calm salmon]

one day rippers will get buffed

[south folio]

and i'm stealing it

[royal vortex]

arco is a floor cleaner at heart

[coarse birch]

this is so fucked up

[royal vortex]

the headset is charged

it is time to wreak havoc on someone's game

[calm salmon]

play PBB ogryn with rumbler

to really wreck their fun

You wanted to attack that thing?

now its halfway across the room

[royal vortex]

i did that before they nerfed the explosion damage on unyielding

and dominate

[coarse birch]

josho shoots dogs im trying to melee half across the map with bolter

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/kbdhue

[coarse birch]

do not give this man rumbler

[royal vortex]

targeted, precision harassment

it's too late yoshi

[coarse birch]

are you destroying some poor pub

[calm salmon]

Its really funny though, I spoiled my friend on ogryn teammates since I always use nuke

She gets super madge when ogryns use box or rock now

[royal vortex]

i have not decided yet

[royal vortex]

none of the rockgryns i get know that u can stagger bosses with rocks

[coarse birch]

if you wanna run pubs thats fine i can play something else or sleep

[royal vortex]

i will let the mission board refresh

it is time for all hi5dogs

[calm salmon]

i just qp into auric

and get mad when i get the same map 5 times in a row

because fatshark decided to release this game with all of 3 maps

[royal vortex]

i have used quickplay all of 5 times

[calm salmon]

i literally only quickplay

1700 hours of it

[royal vortex]

i lived in fear of the death favela

and did not queue desert maps for a long time

[calm salmon]

i just dealt with it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic harbor]

Quick play for life

Unless I’m with friends

[calm salmon]

I really do wish this game had released with more maps though cause holy shit

[tropic harbor]

Gotta get that 10% plasteel

I ain’t gay but plasteel is plasteel

[calm salmon]

its really aggravating getting the same map 4 or 5 times in a row because there's just not that many options

[coarse birch]

it was meant to get like maps added far more often

which didnt happen

obv

[royal vortex]

@coarse birch we ball

[tropic harbor]

DT development is sort of like getting behind in a math class where you’re struggling to keep up because you got behind there chapters ago and are still playing catch-up

[royal vortex]

there is magistrati

i can SNIPE

[coarse birch]

pog

i can try my maybe good maybe bad surge flames build

[loud hearth]

what's the best thunder hammer?

[coarse birch]

both are good

[calm salmon]

this actually happened to me

[coarse birch]

crucis will do more special damage

[calm salmon]

I got Type A Flu when I was in 6th grade

[coarse birch]

ironhelm can manage hordes better

[calm salmon]

out of school for three wooks

Actually fuckin pain

[coarse birch]

both have big single target though

[sinful widget]

Crucis gets special attack blocked by first target

[calm salmon]

the flu didn't even do anything to me

[loud hearth]

does ironhelm still do nicely against single target?

[coarse birch]

yeah

[sinful widget]

Ironhelm cleaves trash and unloads on elites

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/unicouniuni-uni-uni-cat-big-boobs-boobs-gif-27150187

[calm salmon]

but my teachers were not at all willing to cooperate with me - except one

based Ms. Hager

[coarse birch]

its still v good

easier to use too

special wise

[south folio]

allow me to join you guys

[tropic harbor]

Now you know how fatshark feels

[loud hearth]

what blessings for ironhelm? headtaker and thrust?

[royal vortex]

gentrification

[coarse birch]

@royal vortex arco is joining

[calm salmon]

yeah its why I don't get upset about their radio silence

[south folio]

wha

[calm salmon]

I wouldn't wanna talk to this fuckin community either

[royal vortex]

strike team 50?

[coarse birch]

yeah

[south folio]

OwO

[coarse birch]

i do feel bad for FS

like

i get we didnt get waht was promised

but good god

[zealous basin]

yeah idk if i had to deal with a gamer community

i would simply just never interact with them

[coarse birch]

like wait a little bit/play something else idk

[zealous basin]

gamers are such insufferable melodramatic cunts its absolutely insane

[coarse birch]

im just enjoying the game till next update

it comes when it comes

[calm salmon]

me with rogue trader, palworld, quasimorph and escape from tarkov

[zealous basin]

if people irl acted the way that gamers act over the slightest inconvenience in their favorite game

[calm salmon]

Like

[zealous basin]

society would have collapsed millenia ago

[loud hearth]

i think it's fine to start playing rn but if you've been playing for a while you probably gotta play something else

[calm salmon]

just take some time off if the game has gotten boring

[zealous basin]

the absolute thought

[south folio]

when can i legally marry darktide

[zealous basin]

of having to play more than one game

every day forever

[tropic harbor]

The DT discord has convinced me gamers are the stupidest, most pathetic subculture out there

[south folio]

what can't you marry, actually

[zealous basin]

[calm salmon]

some japanese dude married a bridge

I think you're good friend

[south folio]

hell yeah

[zealous basin]

i mar

[coarse birch]

arco get in here before i steal your eyes

[zealous basin]

nvm

[polar nexus]

so the swift certainty guy made a steam guide on momentum zealot

[south folio]

wtf

[calm salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/william-weir-event-horizon-sam-neill-wont-need-eyes-to-see-gif-15977214

[tropic harbor]

Yeah that’s the other thing. There’s more games out there. You’ve got an Xbox or gaming pc… just go nuts

Play some BG3

Or put more hours in Pike and Shot

[calm salmon]

if only SSTE were good

and I can't afford HD2

:(

pain

sste=starship troopers extermination

[ornate bone]

what should i add on curios if im running martydom

besides wounds

[calm salmon]

toughness, gunner resistance, flex

[ornate bone]

like what perks

flex?

[calm salmon]

flex spot is whatever rng gives you

[ornate bone]

oh

gotcha lol

[calm salmon]

since we can only change two perks

[ornate bone]

u read my mind

[calm salmon]

like, you can do sniper resistance or HP

if you get a good roll

[ornate bone]

no toughness regen?

[calm salmon]

but mostly its just gonna be "Whatever rng gives you"

no, its only good on ogryn

[ornate bone]

gotcha

[calm salmon]

toughness regen is shite for everyone else

[ornate bone]

so what tips do yougot for a first time kartydom

[calm salmon]

dont

as in: don't go to 0 hp asap

use it as scaling buffs for taking chip damage through toughness

[ornate bone]

gotcha

let it happen naturally

[calm salmon]

riding one wound of HP as soon as possible is stupid and dangerous and takes extremely high skill to work

[ember yew]

i was thinking of getting it, but my friend been playing nonstop for like 40 hours and now he dropped the game and went to enshrouded

i guess 40 hours is the max he could get from it

[calm salmon]

yeah, sounds like my buddy

He's uh. . . very goal oriented

and experience oriented

once he's experienced the totality of a game, he's done done

[zealous basin]

helldivers goes nuts

[ember yew]

so basically the endgame there is nonexistant (?)

[zealous basin]

bruh

that game's difficulty goes apeshit

there is absolutely no shot your friend is consistently clearing max diff

[calm salmon]

Helldivers is a game where you stick around for the combat

HD1 was much the same

[zealous basin]

the games progression is already grindy enough

i dont need it to be grindier

u play it cuz its a fun ass game with novel rounds

[calm salmon]

^

some people don't work like that though

[ember yew]

Then i can guess why he quit, everyone knows the quality of random/PUG players in any game and getting discord premade everytime gets old later

[calm salmon]

my best friend is one example

[zealous basin]

see

i just have friends

and play with them

[ember yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIiLz_z1_Lo

the friends song

[sacred jay]

[median steeple]

https://medal.tv/games/helldivers-2/clips/1V05x7Vkua9jxs/d1337qwNCNDl?invite=cr-MSxqOUMsMTk0NjM5OTEyLA

[wraith helm]

New weapon for the zealot dropping next update:

[ripe quest]

@south folio ratio

[ivory marlin]

Hows the wifi?

[ripe quest]

Was able to play Darktide earlier.

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

[ripe quest]

However

Ghost hits, never had much of an issue

holy shit is it rough with bad ping

[royal vortex]

now u feel the pain

[south folio]

you bastard

[ripe quest]

Have you ever shot 4 revolver rounds at a shotgunner pack only for all of them to ghost hit, the shotgunner pack splits up, you get shotguned, then 2 of your rounds come back?

I did

[royal vortex]

yes

[coarse birch]

josho challenge run

[ripe quest]

I was told I looked like a bot by a friend

[royal vortex]

i have had elites kill me on bolter when i fire the last round

and get the PING

and then my bullet is refunded

[south folio]

wow josho how do you regenerate ammo as ogryn

[royal vortex]

die

[ripe quest]

Halfway through a reload animation and the game says you never started a reload

[calm salmon]

[ripe quest]

But, important "but" here, I am now walking down the path of Josho and Crab by having horrid internet problems.

If I can get used to this, it'll be some Dragon Ball shit where I drop the weights and all of a sudden I'm goated.

[delicate shadow]

I played verm at 250-350 ping for like 3 years

[ember yew]

not looking forward to that in next update around march 2027

[delicate shadow]

moved to NA and suddenly I had to relearn all my muscle memory lmao

[drowsy steppe]

that one scene legit made me sick to the stomach

[ivory marlin]

Hi mal

[drowsy steppe]

hello gayle

[ivory marlin]

Im actually bi now

The pan jokes were too much

[drowsy steppe]

so its Bayle now

[ivory marlin]

Yeah

[median steeple]

Out of the pan into the fire

[ivory marlin]

:(

Im just gonna stay unlabeled

[median steeple]

I'm sorry it was staring right at me

[ivory marlin]

Its all good lmao

[polar nexus]

@fading vale

[ivory marlin]

That one was good actually

9/10

Unique

[ivory marlin]

Is that my boy vulkan i cannot tell

[calm salmon]

stay winning

[median steeple]

Fuck his ass ferrus

[polar nexus]

https://youtu.be/FyhA7j9LUnE?si=jnuEUBOIcMyHOSoh

[ivory marlin]

Huh

[median steeple]

I refuse to believe peterturbo has a beard

[polar nexus]

that video felt satisfying

especially around 1.27

[median steeple]

God I love vulkan

[ivory marlin]

I wish vulkan was my dad

[royal vortex]

ur about to become a 0.1%er too

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/my-time-has-come-gif-9231594

[calm salmon]

that whole movie is fucked beyond belief

[livid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-rogal-dorn-locket-gif-26807055

[ancient brook]

Ayo guys, got this pretty good revolver

What perk should I swap out?

[polar nexus]

i want to say weakspot dmg

but i think you should take a look with the calculator maybe

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

[coarse birch]

weakspot damage

[calm salmon]

weakspot damage to uh

maniac

[sour oxide]

do you have throwing knives?

[ancient brook]

Typically nah

...I can't quite oneshot a rager on damnation with that I think

Huh

Upsetting

[sour oxide]

naw not with a revolver

with a throwing knife and an uncanny dagger yes

[calm salmon]

that'd be your penetration stat

think it needs to be like ~72% or higher

[south folio]

@sour oxide let's establish a baseline that this is an approximately good distance to spot dodge a crusher
https://streamable.com/uov18o

and in this video swift certainty doesn't do that
https://streamable.com/x28k08

the first few hits are whatevs but it's most evident on the last smash

[lusty turtle]

Im gonna get you account banned, its the right thing to do

[vocal pulsar]

PLEASE

[bitter anvil]

You become Bosnia artillery

[misty mason]

Based skellington

[royal vortex]

lmao

[south folio]

best mod

kick josho out of a game at the end of a mission if it detects that he has a rumbler

[lusty turtle]

Account ban for anyone with time in gunlugger

[south folio]

SO TRUE

[royal vortex]

i told quite a few ppl about bugged fire rounds ripper

[bitter anvil]

I use Gunlugger ability with GG.

[oak ermine]

Does Gunlugger only qualify PBB or any attempt at running a Stubber? Or both? Both at the same time?

[polar nexus]

It's in the code as well. Swift doesn't do shit in terms of dodge talent synergy.

[lusty turtle]

I hated that bug, and i still hate the fire rounds

[royal vortex]

fire rounds are really cool but also like

the entire ult is structured in a degenerate way

[coarse birch]

it sounds really cool but comes out really degen yeah

[lusty turtle]

Why are they "uncapped" stacks 💀

[royal vortex]

2 insane weapon warping options

and then close damage

woohoo

[coarse birch]

ogryns entire tree is kinda tragic

[misty mason]

Account ban for any time in josho

[coarse birch]

how do you want to be degen

the tree

[lusty turtle]

Yes

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/not-sure-hmm-thinking-gif-5730421

@misty mason

[lusty turtle]

Hol up

[coarse birch]

ayo

[ripe quest]

It is a bit funny that the 1 thing that could make bleed absurd is instead given to a superior debuff on a class that already has absurd dps.

[lusty turtle]

What have you been doing with josho

[royal vortex]

i am untouched

[polar nexus]

Do we have to wear his skin

Or just be inside inside

[misty mason]

No bans cause josho is a maiden

Except for josho

[lusty turtle]

Thats the thing us like

Fire isnt even that much better

[misty mason]

Cause of the gun lugger thing

[lusty turtle]

Its just the none linear scalling making oggy fire good

Not the fact its not bleed

[polar nexus]

That's still bugged?

[lusty turtle]

Even with the last buff to the crit burn for accas as an example, max burn stacks is still only 300 dps iirc 💀

[ripe quest]

mmm no fire has better base power and adms. I'm mostly referring to the idea of a 31 stack bleed cap being absurd damage on certain weapons but it's instead something fire can exploit.

[lusty turtle]

Not bugged, intended to be 31 stack cap which is goofy

[polar nexus]

Damn

[lusty turtle]

I just dont understand why anything can overcome the stack cap tbh

[ripe quest]

Because 31 is the stack cap but stuff like 10 and 16 are weapon application caps.

[lusty turtle]

Which is still like a 50% dmg boost for accas

[ripe quest]

The max stacks directly affect the damage scaling

[lusty turtle]

I more mean

Everything has been capped 10-18, why not this

[ripe quest]

Probs forgot to add a cap.

[lusty turtle]

Cap oggy burns

[drowsy steppe]

This isnt gonna look good in front of the Fatshark quality testing HQ bro

[lusty turtle]

Hi mal

Thought u died

[drowsy steppe]

hello Yog

I have risen back

[lusty turtle]

Tragic

[drowsy steppe]

[lusty turtle]

Glad to have u back

[ripe quest]

Just doubled checked, burn has a base of 400 w/ like, 2x better adms compared to bleed for everything other than Carapace.

Bleed is 125 iirc

175 at most

[lusty turtle]

Ye idk the scalling for it too well but neither seem valuable outside of ogryn

Which... honestly could have been interesting to have oggy with a bunch of DoT focused talents

[ripe quest]

Well it's a fun thing to show off with Zealot. If someone wants to use bleed you can just show them that 1-2 kant special shots will outcompete bleed.

[lusty turtle]

Anything out competes bleed

Im pretty sure shovel vet puts out more damage than bleed knife zealot

[ripe quest]

Well, Bleed does more damage per tick against Maniac and Unyielding (ig Cara too) vs. Warpfire.

[bitter anvil]

God decimal numbers

My mind hurt

[ripe quest]

womp womp

It's also a thing to point out for people who use Flechette instead of Man-Stopper.

Bleed knife Zealot gets out-competed by a huge sum of things which is already known.

[drowsy steppe]

but thats not what Tanner told me

[ripe quest]

The only thing that tanner can say that's tech true is that bleed knife is better than the Mk XII Chaxe's horde clear.

I do find it funny that Chainsword is just about 7x better for crowd damage than a Mk III Knife

It's such a huge gap between weapons in a game like this

Though I do also think it's less funny that the Chainsword has way better crowd damage than an Eviscerator.

[royal vortex]

i have a BLEEDINATOR shovel build with uncanny and serrated blade

[ripe quest]

It can have good crowd clear n whatnot but they should really trade sweep lights at the very least. Base Evis borders the worst weapons for horde clear and only makes up for it by being less impacted by hitting a mixed horde.

[royal vortex]

and a flechette lawbringer

[lusty turtle]

Ye okay your account needs to go

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[vocal pulsar]

end him

[royal vortex]

i got like 80k bleed damage out of it w/ frags

[ripe quest]

I was in a few games with Josho while he used it and it's kinda funny.

Point and click erasure tool.

Def ban him though

[vocal pulsar]

The End and The Death (of Josho)

[ripe quest]

Josho 2:13

[bitter anvil]

Josho got ban for being malicious crafting builds?

[royal vortex]

there's 2 versions of the build

there's the normal one that is weapon specialist and u just happen to have a lawby

[vocal pulsar]

he deserves to be banned, yes

[coarse birch]

the BLEEDINATOR cannot be topped

[royal vortex]

there's the one i made to get 70k bleed damage

[vocal pulsar]

also burstering people

[coarse birch]

that is THE VET META

[south folio]

pot calling the kettle black

[vocal pulsar]

and overall being a general nuisance

[vocal pulsar]

go back to whatever fetid hole you crawled out of, slime.

[ripe quest]

Plasma has nothing on the BLEEDINATOR™️!

[royal vortex]

the bleedinator is my only public build on gameslantern iirc

[ripe quest]

Nothing can top it, not even Parry the Platypus.

[vocal pulsar]

make it private

[royal vortex]

no

[vocal pulsar]

no one should see

[bitter anvil]

Perry*

[royal vortex]

this tree is so ugly good lord

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b283518-a332-4e77-b2f8-2b512694aab2/meta-vet-shotgun-build

[ripe quest]

Parry the Platypus is a Dclaw build.

[bitter anvil]

Okay

[ripe quest]

I'm not uncultured.

[ripe quest]

Zoomed out a lot of Vet builds look like those boards insane people make that connect people to an act of misdeeds.

[royal vortex]

oh i have to update my bolter build

fuck it u know what

[royal vortex]

im puttin stam regen on all my curios

[vocal pulsar]

why didnt you have that on before

on that build

dumb

[royal vortex]

i have it on 1

[vocal pulsar]

go all in or go home

[royal vortex]

well its like

u know

i didnt do it

i had stam regen on all my p12 curios

[vocal pulsar]

i got stam regen on all my curios + 1 stam curio + both stam regen delay feats

on my main vet build (bolter)

[hushed agate]

Just ruptured my eardrums. Nice video

[vocal pulsar]

which has no keystones btw

[lusty turtle]

Me trying to convince FS that we need to ban josho, bledd knife zealots and gunluggers for build crimes
https://youtu.be/VyHB28SqsLQ?si=O5nraJA4HLzTQ3cK

[coarse birch]

im debating running more stam on my knife psyker

but i know this is heresy

[royal vortex]

u cant compare me to either of those

when i do dumb shit its at least novel

i have never seen another guy make a fkin vet bleed build

[vocal pulsar]

josho, im not even sure you can read a novel

[royal vortex]

i topscored the one game i played of it

i was SLAYING

[polar nexus]

https://youtu.be/1n6cPMe38Ec?si=orSNkXfHQDpHt3i9 man his videos are sooo cool

[royal vortex]

cashcrop is p solid yeah

he gets some numbers wrong but he's not annoying to listen to

[ripe quest]

Few months ago some poor sap watched that same video and I could tell they got obliterated when they replied with a firm "Thanks!".

[polar nexus]

yeah the form is pretty cool

and the voice is nice

[hushed agate]

Video equivalent of reaching your hand into a lays chip bag

[coarse birch]

content creators for this game also tend to be annoying because they are like

"weakspot good"

"dont run maniac"

and its like ok

now all these new people are just gonna look up DT shit and see that

[royal vortex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b50f775-d716-4a8e-ac1f-71127ad6c781 @coarse birch incase u are interested

because u asked me how the build has been workiong

working

[ripe quest]

"Here's a benchmark list I made in a back alley on a laptop using ingame gameplay"

[coarse birch]

yeah ill probs try that

as a bolter fan

[royal vortex]

u can drop one stam regen node for ET

[coarse birch]

oh you run unyield

[royal vortex]

but with both stam regens you don't lose stamina when sprint sliding

[ripe quest]

Sometimes people like Tanner pop up and make me want to set some YT videos up.

[coarse birch]

yeah tanner is the one i was referring too

[ripe quest]

Never recorded or edited a proper video a day in my life

[coarse birch]

since hes been coming up recently

[royal vortex]

yea

i dont think i want maniac on this

but it is what it is

all my bolters get maniac locked in

[coarse birch]

unyield is fine just wasnt sure if you preferred flak/maniac

or cara even

but idk if id run cara for that build

id need to see the numbers

[lusty turtle]

Mood

[ripe quest]

Usually what happens though is you get a general gamer Youtuber who dabbles in some Darktide videos, good content but will have some bits and pieces of wrong info

[royal vortex]

generally i just cope with the wildly inconsistent cara damage

[coarse birch]

if you literally just post easily accessible good info your better than 99% of DT content creators

[ripe quest]

A specific case I recall was JFJ w/ a basic tips guide and it had some wrong info about how certain blessings interacted with weapon combos

[south folio]

i thought i was safe from him by being in psyker chat until he said you shouldn't take uncanny strike on duelling swords there

[lusty turtle]

Id honestly do it but i hate my own voice and public attention

[royal vortex]

JFJ's guide is awful

stuff like

"maulers are weaker from behind"

[coarse birch]

thats like

a i havent tested anything

take

or even

[ripe quest]

there is no way

[coarse birch]

i dont know what rending does

[ripe quest]

[royal vortex]

he also said you don't get slammed by a mutie the first time it grabs you

[coarse birch]

was he running scourge

when he tested this

[royal vortex]

only on subsequent grabs

he showed footage disproving this

[coarse birch]

does he just

not know about if he grabs you by a wall

[lusty turtle]

From gameplay he badically only played oggy

[coarse birch]

or something

[spare talon]

It was posted on the launcher too at one point

[royal vortex]

he came into here once or twice and found we didn't like the guide

[ripe quest]

I KNOW, that's why I got upset mostly

[royal vortex]

yeah i got super mad watching it

there's a bunch of opinionated bullshit too like marty just being outright terrible

[ripe quest]

I have my reservations about the Ogrynomicon but I got mega Not Happy™️ seeing a YTer guide get posted when the info wasn't super great. It had nice foundational stuff but new players can't sift through it like we can.

[royal vortex]

the ogrynomicon is just too wordy for me

[spare talon]

The only thing I genuinely liked about it was "accuracy by volume, the guns are not a lettered address, but rather 'To whom it may concern'" which is something I am going to say from now on

[obtuse stirrup]

You gotta know how to skim it

[coarse birch]

i mean the info is there its just

you gotta get through like

presentations of the wep

essentially

like they are trying to write a hook

[royal vortex]

also can't ctrl f the fkin thing cuz its all images

[lusty turtle]

ogrynomicon is really good BUT its very much written for people who are into ogryn

if you are just looking for a guide to try the class its just kinda a bit much

[coarse birch]

like i just care what it does and what to put on it

i can figure out the rest

by playing it

[vocal pulsar]

Alot word hurt josho brain, make josho mad

[royal vortex]

very true

[ripe quest]

Yeah no the Ogrynomicon has solid info, good players behind it who are somewhat familiar with the game's hidden stuff. The presentation is what gets me a bit. Mostly a gripe, it honestly doesn't hurt too much.

[obtuse stirrup]

Maybe just the order of presentation

You shouldn't open with a skill tree deep dive

[vocal pulsar]

When's the zealot guide @royal vortex

[obtuse stirrup]

That should be at the bottom

Weapons at the rop

Top

Imo

[royal vortex]

when they add bleed perks for knife

[coarse birch]

whens the darktide guide

josho

[south folio]

yeah i really felt that your crusher guide was missing a comprehensive overview on zealot as a whole

[lusty turtle]

if i ever get the opportunity to rework a weapon again i should throw together a simple guide so people know what to expect

[spare talon]

It's already made
The comprehensive crusher guide is in the pins

[lusty turtle]

[royal vortex]

zealot has a lot of spread out resources that provide decent info

[south folio]

skeleton-pill a weapon

just as weapons were crab-pilled

[ripe quest]

My schedule is far different to what I thought it would be so mine probs won't get handed off to other people.

[coarse birch]

like how am i supposed to run crusher when i dont know what swift certainty does

[royal vortex]

the kuli steam guide has most of the weird talent interactions stuff

[ripe quest]

I was tempted to give the foundation to like, Laz and Josho a bit ago.

[obtuse stirrup]

I feel like Crusher and IIIb clobb share a lot of design philosophy

"What if we make club, but really overpowered "

[royal vortex]

i also don't particularly want to present myself as some kind of ultimate authority on zealot

[obtuse stirrup]

Absolute joys to use, both of them

[vocal pulsar]

Cuz that's me

[royal vortex]

it's true

he's right u know

[coarse birch]

mankar knows best

[lusty turtle]

honestly i think, outside of the stagger stuff, crusher is fine

its just too safe to use

[ripe quest]

Ideally the info isn't presented that way.

[coarse birch]

crusher is fine ye

its probably a little safe but

thats not super uncommon i suppose

which tbf is like a game balance issue

[ripe quest]

Crusher is funny because it's a perfectly balanced weapon with 1-2 cases where it's ball-bustingly broken.

[obtuse stirrup]

I don't think Crusher is a problem mind

[royal vortex]

crusher's activations let you get away with too much in situations where you should be dead

[ripe quest]

And they're not even common cases

[royal vortex]

but also a lot of those situations are prevented by not being an idiot

[obtuse stirrup]

It's just, like, I went back to heavy sword IX after trying it

And then was like

[royal vortex]

and then otherwise u have some dumb stuff like shutting off a ball of crushers/maulers

[coarse birch]

cause theres like crusher safe where you need to at least know how to use it wheras hsword keeps you safe cause everything in front of you is dead

[obtuse stirrup]

"What does this do better than a Crusher? At all?"

[obtuse stirrup]

Except Crusher kills the scunners very efficiently too

Without stopping once you get to elites

[lusty turtle]

not quiet as efficiently

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/330l1p

[lusty turtle]

hsword is very killy safe

[coarse birch]

adding in deathblow yeah

[royal vortex]

crusher unfortunately does not do this

[coarse birch]

like you stop on elites till you kill one

and the next 3 are dead

[lusty turtle]

gonna get deathblow and 3 billion weakspot damage added to crusher next patch to fix this

[coarse birch]

true

[royal vortex]

thank u skeleton

this is what it was missing

[coarse birch]

make H2 kill entire crusher packs

[royal vortex]

im ngl it is infuriating that blunt weapons get deathblow

or bm

or whatever the next name for it will be

[coarse birch]

do blunt weps get deathblow