then you can leave the health node thats fine
#zealot-class
rain steppe
Cool!
The weapons and curios are still in the works I'm not quite satisfied with them
coarse birch
theres more i can mention if you want but i dont wanna overload you
rain steppe
I'm noting it all down so any help I do appreciate
haughty bone
coarse birch
so for the bolter your best blessings are generally pinning fire/cavaclade or surgical if your doing a more snipery build but i wouldnt reccomend that on zealot
rain steppe
For the Holter I use that normally on big groups of armored enemies to flinch them and kill or open them up to the team helps on bulworks especially
coarse birch
id run flak/cara then
rain steppe
Gotcha!
coarse birch
and for curios since you mentioned them, toughness/HP and gunner resist are generally best
a lot of people run 3x gunner resist 3xHP 3xtoughness but if you want you can also swap one of the toughness nodes for sniper res if you get sniped semi often
and want it to do less than half health
you can also run ordos if you are ordo farming
rain steppe
I have the invincibility if the sniper hits at a bad time so not to important to me
coarse birch
as for main perks 1 HP 2 Toughness or 3x toughness imo, ig 2 HP 1 tough wouldnt be awful but not my recommendation
sour oxide
now do you look like the zealot in the picture tho
rain steppe
now do you look like the zealot in the picture tho
I don't
sour oxide
damn I wanted beard tips
coarse birch
uh thats about all ive got
rain steppe
I appreciate it all!!
coarse birch
id also take off unarmored from the evis but since you need to remove infested/perfect strike its the best of the 3
sour oxide
woah never seen a build like this before lemme digest.
rain steppe
This is also a build I threw together because I wanted to get the stun gernade challenge done but I'm growing quite attached
rain steppe
id also take off unarmored from the evis but since you need to remove infested/p...
Well I want to grind for a better one eventually anyway
coarse birch
yeah i figured it was a stand in
rain steppe
Stats on mine aren't perfect
coarse birch
but i mentioned it for future reference anyway
rain steppe
Noted!
Also side note played the easiest difficulty today and by the emperor it was a cake walk
coarse birch
yeah easiest diff is just second tutorial p much
sour oxide
hmm why did you go to inexorable judgement if you dont mind me asking?
rain steppe
I was doing melee speed and at full stacks that's an additional 20% speed, the 10% from the node, I typically grab the blue stim to boost it even higher and normally I run fury of the faithful so I turn I to just a blender
sour oxide
thats fair, seems like a very defensive/cautious build. not that that is a bad thing by any means.
rain steppe
I could just as easily mody that build to get that 50% attack speed but currently I can do alot of stun and get my combat ability back pretty often
rain steppe
thats fair, seems like a very defensive/cautious build. not that that is a bad ...
It was intended to be just for the stun challenge but it's become quite the utility
sour oxide
I think the point in switch uncertainty might throw a wrench in the gears of taking damage to reduce cool down tho
wicked pollen
I love playing Zealot, lessened each time i see someone in a public lobby speedrunning with stealth build
sour oxide
I would take that point out and move over to the piety tree
would just have to find one more point to salvage
rain steppe
I tend to throw myself head on into damage so it just gives me a little bit extra on that 60 second timer for the combat ability
fleet zealot
I tend to throw myself head on into damage so it just gives me a little bit extr...
no
it's not worth
rain steppe
Oh it's not toughness loss?
sour oxide
well that and they are running swift uncertainty which makes you dodge every attack so you wont be getting hit
rain steppe
I thought it was any damage which is why I took it
fleet zealot
even the tankiest martyrdom+bleed for the emperor+restoring faith+ holy revenant build
sharp zodiac
Wisp is dying
fading vale
well that and they are running swift uncertainty which makes you dodge every att...
that is not how swift works
fleet zealot
that is not how swift works
why do we have so many people here spreading false info
sour oxide
that is not how swift works
@alps pretty sure it is...
fading vale
that
fleet zealot
swift certainity only extends the natural dodge period all classes have when sprinting at an angle away from gunfire
south folio
it doesn't give you anything else besides that
fading vale
it doesn't do anything else except for the listed move speed
fleet zealot
it stops working when one runs out of stam, swift makes it so it doesn't stop working at 0 stam
fading vale
and it doesn't count as dodging
fleet zealot
^
sour oxide
I find that I dodge a ton more just sprinting through a pack and not dodging
rain steppe
I mean either way I enjoy the movement speed bonus
sour oxide
I mean I have been using it for the past 1300 levels
south folio
alright, your experience doesn't change what it does...
I'm sure swift is probably ding utility to you but we're just saying that your description of what it does is wrong
sour oxide
I am saying that it does dodge attacks just by sprinting by
sour oxide
its not. but sprinting by enemies can trigger a dodge with it
fleet zealot
it dodges ranges attacks at an angle, it is not dodging the mechanic when you double tap movement
it doesn't need to be perpindicular but it can't be dead on
rain steppe
The skill node says always counts as dodging while sprinting
fading vale
yeah swift is quite literally just making you avoid ranged when you run at an angle with 0 stam
fleet zealot
The skill node says always counts as dodging while sprinting
yes and fatshark tooltips are stupid
fading vale
the tooltip is just bad
fleet zealot
it is not the same dodge mechanic that precog or duelist uses
sour oxide
doesn't sound correct to me, got a clip?
fleet zealot
it is a separate mechanic everyone has
fading vale
it's correct and has been known since october
sour oxide
I don't worry about ranged shooters anyways you can just power attack slide spam under all their rounds running straight towards them
show me peas
fleet zealot
swift just lets the range avoidance extend past 0 stam
lol
wdym show
we have a clip where you can spin around a reaper
fading vale
here
fleet zealot
fading vale
I don't have clips for everything
fleet zealot
fuckin fresh blood
sour oxide
then how is it known since october?
coarse birch
you can also just go test it
rain steppe
I've been sprinting straight through the bullets tbh
fleet zealot
cause WE TESTED IT
coarse birch
if you arent sure
coarse birch
I've been sprinting straight through the bullets tbh
you also have thy wrath be swift
sour oxide
I am have alevel 2400 zealot I have tested it every day lol
coarse birch
you dont get staggered
fleet zealot
I've been sprinting straight through the bullets tbh
yes, it is possible, the enemies are programmed to miss, and twbs means no stagger
jaunty lava
There's a clip in the pinned...
fading vale
well, there are many high levels that don't know how the game actually works....
fleet zealot
but if you sprint dead on
you are likely to be hit
if you sprint at an angle, you won't be, as long as you have stam or running the swift certainty talent
fleet zealot
There's a clip in the pinned...
IKR
rain steppe
Ah good to know about these skills!
coarse birch
sliding doesnt have anything to do with swift though
they are just mentioning what it does
fleet zealot
you just have to slide and youre fine
yes
south folio
yes you also get ranged I frames on slides
sour oxide
yeah that zealots specifically don't take damage through
coarse birch
sliding is everyones universal answer to pushing ranged
fleet zealot
yeah that zealots specifically don't take damage through
that's just the slide mechanic
that is completely different system
south folio
yeah that zealots specifically don't take damage through
bro every class gets ranged I frames on slides
wraith helm
I take swift for the speed buff when i run relic instead of chastice.
sour oxide
zealots get more
rain steppe
sliding is everyones universal answer to pushing ranged
Besides me apparently
fleet zealot
zealots have sliding 100% DR, vets and psykers 50%, ogryn 0%
south folio
does zealot even have 100% toughness dr on slides anymore
coarse birch
Besides me apparently
yeah sliding grants ranged i frames
south folio
zealots get more
I-frames is different from DR
fading vale
does zealot even have 100% toughness dr on slides anymore
I think it's 50% now
fleet zealot
actually just to be pedantic
rain steppe
I am learning quite alot
fleet zealot
swift certainity does help in those moments between slides
if you are still sprinting
sour oxide
I-frames is different from DR
@Aco yes we know
median steeple
aco
south folio
my bad mr level 2400
jaunty lava
I'm pretty sure they removed the 100% dr zealots had long ago no?
fading vale
it got nerfed to 50% but regardless sliding still avoids most ranged fire
sour oxide
my bad mr level 2400
@aco yup thats me
fleet zealot
2400 levels never bothers to actually look up the mechanics
calm salmon
the only pain with avoiding ranged fire with sliding is if enemies don't shoot at the same time
sour oxide
youre the one telling me october
fleet zealot
enemies can also shoot you between slides
coarse birch
yeah staggered shooters are annoying
sour oxide
and have no proof october meansd anything
calm salmon
yep
coarse birch
like staggering the fire not actual stagger
fleet zealot
IT'S IN THE PINS
calm salmon
It is pain trying to deal with large amounts of shooters.
fading vale
October aka when the patch with all the new talents dropped hmmm
sour oxide
what pins in this channel? in reddit?
coarse birch
esp spread out
jaunty lava
Since october, people have tested how it works. It's been solved since release lol
fleet zealot
what pins in this channel? in reddit?
ok now you are just trolling
coarse birch
no the pins at the top of the channel
sour oxide
see how easy that was.
coarse birch
top right of discord channel
calm salmon
but then fatshark took it away
now you get pushed backwards when sliding by a single dreg stalker on ogryn
sour oxide
christ toxic lil man
fading vale
find a mirror
south folio
I mean you're just being purposefully obtuse at this point
calm salmon
i just blocked them
sharp zodiac
Not even acute
jaunty lava
Obviously we are not talking about reddit on discord
sharp zodiac
I'm sorry I couldn't resist
sour oxide
dear diary puri blocked me
coarse birch
damn i cant think of any other angles
fleet zealot
2400 zealot, never bothers to look up a mechanic
fleet zealot
built different
calm salmon
Yep, that's what got me Amelia
coarse birch
well ok like yeah i can think of the numbers
sour oxide
you said that buddy next one
south folio
iirc he's indeed that level
sharp zodiac
360 no scope
sour oxide
lol someone tell him I am going to cry to my thearapist
south folio
I've seen him on na west
calm salmon
That's actually even more insane
median steeple
fleet zealot
I've seen him on na west
me too
fading vale
2400 zealot, never bothers to look up a mechanic
remember the flamer person that said their loadout was showstopper and fan cause they synergized and has been for 800 levels
coarse birch
remember the flamer person that said their loadout was showstopper and fan cause...
aint no way
fading vale
oh yeah
median steeple
these convos are what I live for
coarse birch
i will never understand why people die on the hills of there loadout
like run what you want
calm salmon
these convos are what I live for
I live for food
fleet zealot
i noticed a lot of 1k+ level people simply play all day
calm salmon
love me a good indian meal
coarse birch
i just dont get beingso certain its better than tried and true loadout
jaunty lava
Best thing just before going to sleep, thanks everyone for the laugh
sour oxide
lol look at them all in the circle jerk
fleet zealot
and never bother to go beyond just, raw playing
fading vale
they ran fan and showstopper for 800 levels and had NO IDEA how either blessing worked and that neither do anything
calm salmon
showstopper actually does do shit
wraith helm
Pinned and doesnt explain it giving 10% speed.
Someone explain the speed boost, this is beyond me
calm salmon
fwiw
coarse birch
nice
calm salmon
like, it works as it says
fleet zealot
lol look at them all in the circle jerk
“Whiney”
Mf you guys are the ones crying about how much certain guns suck according to the excel sheet page 43 paragraph 2 like what, play the fucking game
got a copypasta for u
enjoy
median steeple
I live for food
od im so hungry
calm salmon
10% chance for elites to explode on death
coarse birch
they ran fan and showstopper for 800 levels and had NO IDEA how either blessing ...
hey but flamer bad right worked without blessings
fading vale
showstopper actually does do shit
it does shit yes
sour oxide
huh?
fading vale
they thought fan the flames buffed showstopper
coarse birch
wut
fading vale
and thought showstopper did AOE burn
jaunty lava
wot
coarse birch
this isnt even a FS blessing moment
wraith helm
and thought showstopper did AOE burn
That sounds too useful
fleet zealot
and thought showstopper did AOE burn
lolollol whattt
yea, i've seen the worst builds, time spent playing doesn't equate to skill if you have no idea how to translate experience to skill
jaunty lava
Reality check must have been hard for him when he learned
coarse birch
i wont give people shit for not knowing stuff since 99% of it is not explained in game but thats just wild
sour oxide
@rain steppe anyways I would say that its anti synergyistic with your reduced cooldown for taking damage.
fading vale
and every damn time we tried to say how it worked "I've played with this for 800 hours and you are trying to tell me how it works?"
err 800 levels
fleet zealot
people sometimes make up the stupidest mechanics
like, Surge blessing working on trauma
fleet zealot
that one you should be able to just see
YOU THINK
median steeple
Do you think FS does it on purpose
south folio
psyker L
rain steppe
<@423209885614735376> anyways I would say that its anti synergyistic with your r...
Yeah I have to agree since it's only hp damage and I focus much more on my toughness
fleet zealot
I'm BLIND AND I can see
jaunty lava
What's the interaction between surge and traume? good or bad?
fleet zealot
What's the interaction between surge and traume? good or bad?
none
calm salmon
trauma gamers taking ls
fleet zealot
it just works with left click
south folio
doesn't work at all
fleet zealot
just go rending+ flurry
coarse birch
the damage for cool down node is also just kinda mid
calm salmon
yeah, literally only works on left click
fleet zealot
it's just good
fleet zealot
mid is an understatement
calm salmon
just go rending+ flurry
I use blazing spirit and the critical hit one
fleet zealot
it's 1% per 1 life lost
coarse birch
and your running backstab anyway
fleet zealot
even the most hardcore tank martyrdom players don't take it
calm salmon
i mean
coarse birch
oh transfer peril
calm salmon
psyker staffs are definitely examples of the scrapped system
coarse birch
for my quell cancel M1 trauma build
calm salmon
because half the blessings don't make sense
rain steppe
Just another bad description
fleet zealot
there was a rending blessing for purge staff
calm salmon
at least transfer peril wasn't put on electro staff
fading vale
and all of them have the same blessings except not
fleet zealot
and that aloen would make purge viable comparision to flamer
coarse birch
idk what you mean i love warp flurry/nexus
fleet zealot
but rn flamer is just better purge with a soft ammo limit
coarse birch
at least theres some variety now
fleet zealot
cause fury exists
fading vale
but rn flamer is just better purge with a soft ammo limit
BUT FLAMER HAS NO AMMO
calm salmon
flamer has no ammo if you hold down mouse 1
calm salmon
but it costs 7 ammo to kill infinite poxwalkers in a 23x6 meter cone
fleet zealot
if you have a survivalist vet (most common class in the game) flamer might as well not have ammo
fleet zealot
blaze away+ quickflame
calm salmon
but it costs 7 ammo to kill infinite poxwalkers in a 23x6 meter cone
and most people don't realize this
coarse birch
and this is without overpressure working too
calm salmon
RIP OP
fading vale
it's weird how burn does damage over time
sharp zodiac
https://tenor.com/view/arting-siamese-cat-gigachad-ambatukam-ambasing-gif-262933...
I'm gonna tickle it
fleet zealot
it doesn't even need BA tbh
fleet zealot
just 76% chance and good perks
coarse birch
I'm gonna tickle it
i think you have a tickling problem
sharp zodiac
Not at all
fading vale
we should keep a counter of the number of daily swift incidents
rain steppe
I'm heading to bed now nini and may the God emperor be with you
fleet zealot
a story, in 3 parts
median steeple
rage
coarse birch
we should keep a counter of the number of daily swift incidents
your gonna make football fans real mad with this one after last night
fading vale
was there a tswift incident
fleet zealot
who was the person who made the video on us criticizing their knife
sour oxide
so I tested it, yeah you dodge just by sprinting and running by melee.
coarse birch
was there a tswift incident
taylor is dating a guy on the chiefs and they just won the super bowl, people are beyond tired of seeing/hearing about taylor after this year
sour oxide
so not sure where you getting your info from buts its wrong or changed.
median steeple
the superbowl ads were ass
fleet zealot
so not sure where you getting your info from buts its wrong or changed.
lol
coarse birch
they were
fading vale
whatever your idea of dodging is is wrong
sour oxide
nope
fleet zealot
the avoiding melee attacks is just a speed thing
north sedge
who was the person who made the video on us criticizing their knife
Gone forever 😔
jaunty lava
Oh god not again
coarse birch
i think there is a miscommunication going on here
fleet zealot
you outrun their catch up animation
you don't proc dodge based talents
did you proc duelist
c'mon
show us proof
sour oxide
nope. sorry bud not gonna argue with ya.
fleet zealot
post a video
fleet zealot
nope. sorry bud not gonna argue with ya.
the god emperor is watching and judging
sour oxide
tEsT iT uRsELf
median steeple
Bro really fucking said NUH UH
jaunty lava
Nah nah nah, if you come back 10 minutes later with "proof" you better show it
coarse birch
tbf amelia has tested it
visual stream
taylor is dating a guy on the chiefs and they just won the super bowl, people ar...
Good, Taylor is not a good person 
calm salmon
taylor is dating a guy on the chiefs and they just won the super bowl, people ar...
someone did the math and apparently she's only had like 20 minutes of showtime this season
so its just uh
rage bait
coarse birch
someone did the math and apparently she's only had like 20 minutes of showtime t...
if you add in social media it is a ton more tbf
but yeah people overreact
like i couldn't care less but it doesnt make me actively mad
coarse birch
ty
median steeple
Good, Taylor is not a good person <a:Spinningskull_thefunny:1132021703980101734>
I love celebs telling us to fight for the enviroment just for them to create more carbon than a small town
GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
fleet zealot
i have nothing against taylor swift but I was in highschool playing friday night magic when 1989 came out and Hastings played it all night every night for months
i can't stand it
visual stream
I love celebs telling us to fight for the enviroment just for them to create mor...
Just a small town? 
coarse birch
i somehow missed overplaying of her music
like i def heard it
but it wasnt non stop
calm salmon
i have nothing against taylor swift but I was in highschool playing friday night...
96 baby?
visual stream
But real
fleet zealot
IT WAS literally on loop
calm salmon
I guess yeah
was gonna say
could be later
there is a child amogus
I say, as a 95 baby
fleet zealot
like imagine playing magic 6:30->midnight
visual stream
She's threatening to sue the random Florida college kid who tracks her jet usage
coarse birch
dont let exhil and arco see
drowsy steppe
@frozen glen hi
fleet zealot
that is a good thing to criticize her about
coarse birch
they were calling me old earlier
calm salmon
my local game shops just play the local rock radio station
visual stream
Hope he comes out on top
calm salmon
and did a decade ago
fleet zealot
cause she does abuse her jet
calm salmon
so thank god I didn't have to be inundated with the same fuckin album over and over
fleet zealot
but people just hyperfixate shit I don't care about so i don't want to join in
frozen glen
<@224510871265738762> hi
what do u want
fleet zealot
especially when they get misygonistic
frozen glen
misygonistic
calm salmon
waman bad /s
visual stream
waman bad /s
/srs 
median steeple
steam forums
visual stream
(joke obvi)
coarse birch
no /s smh
median steeple
always serious
visual stream
REAL
coarse birch
mine are 25/75
median steeple
i love men
calm salmon
woman zealot, woman psyker, male veteran, male ogryn
median steeple
so I have man
coarse birch
in favor of men
visual stream
https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307
"why i oughta" ass emoji
median steeple
lmao
coarse birch
my psyker is the only female although my most played class by far
coarse birch
idk why i said 75/25 as if one was an option
fleet zealot
def an ally
calm salmon
bippity boppity here's a meme for chat to steal
while we're on the topic of the why I oughtta gif
median steeple
fleet zealot
HELP THE TRAITORS ARE GREENING ME
median steeple
get slimed
calm salmon
don't ferrets smell weird
fleet zealot
(it's actually cause ferrets can't have normal water and soap baths, it irritates their skin and makes them stinkier)
calm salmon
fleet zealot
don't ferrets smell weird
yes, but most you can get descented the same time you get them castrated as kits
ripe quest
That includes you too Mal, perm-less denizen of zelchat.
fleet zealot
you can bathe a ferret twice a year in a water and oat bath
median steeple
Mal must regrind his way to image perms
calm salmon
yes, but most you can get descented the same time you get them castrated as kits
so kinda like skunks?
coarse birch
mal has image perms now
calm salmon
I know its not a 1-for-1 equate
fleet zealot
so kinda like skunks?
yes, but ferrets can't spray, it's passive for them
visual stream
My veteran is the only woman but she's the embodiment of anger and alcoholism
calm salmon
Neat
native cargo
fleet zealot
also descenting helps with most of the scent but not all, and males are stinkier than females
calm salmon
we love learning aminole facts
median steeple
calm salmon
also descenting helps with most of the scent but not all, and males are stinkier...
oh, so like humans
drowsy steppe
My perms have been reclaimed
fleet zealot
did you know we successfully cloned black footed ferret
calm salmon
My perms have been reclaimed
welcome back nerd
fleet zealot
it's very good cause we hunted them to extinction back when fur trading was the thing, but luckily we found some in the wild
median steeple
oh, so like humans
so called boysmell enjoyers when I send them to hell (smash tourney)
native cargo
did you know we successfully cloned black footed ferret
Yes now they're hundreds of you running through the streets stop this madness
drowsy steppe
Hello puri
fleet zealot
Yes now they're hundreds of you running through the streets stop this madness
actually the black footed ferret (native to america, non domesticated) is still endangered
and they are important to prevent overpopulation of praire dogs
fleet zealot
i think domestic ferrets are doing pretty well besides mills
drowsy steppe
How you doin
median steeple
fleet zealot
puppy mills and cat mills are very bad, but ferret mills are especially bad
median steeple
I love not having rats
fleet zealot
a domestic ferret can normally live 10 years, a milled ferret usually lives no longer than 3
median steeple
reminds me of opossums 
calm salmon
kinda like inbred cats and dogs from mills
a healthy, but domesticated, one will live 17-25 years
fleet zealot
fuckin hate prairie dogs
my hunter's education teacher said when you go praire dog hunting, you use low cal .22, shoot one, and wait for it's friends to come up and try to cannibalize the body, and then shoot them on loop
calm salmon
but an inbred mill cat/dog can have all sorts of insane issues
making their lifespan all over the place
fleet zealot
after a few minutes they'd always come back up
fleet zealot
I love not having rats
yea domestic rats are adorable pocket puppies but they do not live long
fleet zealot
i do like poppy
calm salmon
Not exactly rare.
fleet zealot
calm salmon
Basically just nut and die animals.
the insects who do this blow my mind.
Male fruit flies literally don't have a mouth
and will die in 24-36 hours after being born
so literally just nut and die and it somehow works
median steeple
yea domestic rats are adorable pocket puppies but they do not live long
its illegal for me to own rats
up to 1k fine last I checked
calm salmon
strange.
fleet zealot
yea
i think our city should ban rabbits
cause some keep getting out and making hybrids with the wild cottontail ones
calm salmon
rabbits are cool pets. People have no idea how to take care of them by and large.
fleet zealot
which are cute, but i don't think that is good for the species
jaunty lava
I've seen some snakes and other venomous thing banned but never rats
calm salmon
a buddy of mine in high school had a 7 foot long something snake
can't remember the species
thing always spooked the shit outta me, but he had a whole wall uh
aquarium?
median steeple
just search the rat distribution map
calm salmon
but for snakes
median steeple
and guess
fleet zealot
yee it makes mules
that is why it isn't good
cottontail+domestic make mule babies
they are pretty cute tho
median steeple
jaunty lava
I mean, 1200's elves vs 1600's dwarfs doesn't feel fair
median steeple
God I want a chameleon again bro was the chillest guy ever
fleet zealot
i don't much care for lizards
one of my aunts had bearded dragons and not only are they stupid and no sense of self preservation they weren't even that nice
placid salmon
elves are boring
fleet zealot
whenever i think of frogs, i just think of that one lady where her frogs would get stuck trying to eat her fingers
and she would have to carefully pry them off
I couldn't do that
visual stream
elves are boring
Elves are only cool when they have cool fantasy features other than "long ear and like nature"
ornate bone
yo im making darktide characters in tabs and i wanna make the zealot next cuz i just got done with the veteran
anyone wanna hop in vc and help
visual stream
D&D does them pretty cool, they're Fae descendants and instead of sleeping they go into trances where they lucid dream and can do whatever they want
fleet zealot
i like the warhammer wood elves, very bloody
visual stream
D&D does them pretty cool, they're Fae descendants and instead of sleeping they ...
That is cool
fleet zealot
d&d is rough to say cause... it depends on the DM and setting
visual stream
Warhammer wood elves are cool because of their brutality regarding defending nature, and also the fact that they hang out with actual tree dudes
ornate bone
i like the warhammer wood elves, very bloody
u mean aeldari?
visual stream
d&d is rough to say cause... it depends on the DM and setting
Most people that I bring up the trance thing to had no idea it exists so sadgely yes
median steeple
Exodites are cool since they ride fucking dinosaurs
fleet zealot
I think the Drizzt books did a good show towards the later parts on how elves mentally cope and handle with being the longest lived "civilized humanoid" species
fleet zealot
u mean aeldari?
no, warhammer fantasy
rigid trellis
u mean aeldari?
wood elves don't exist in 40k just fantasy
ornate bone
oh yeah fantasy is a thing
fleet zealot
you could probably homebrew a craftworld that is wood elf themed
rigid trellis
yeah i guess
median steeple
everyone forgets about them
fleet zealot
it has like, some good examples of some elves either choosing to watch over the family of their dead loved ones, or living their life in 50-100 year phases and just changing their persona
median steeple
including GW
visual stream
Wood elves cool, but lizardmen are my absolute favorite race in WHF
calm salmon
I think the Drizzt books did a good show towards the later parts on how elves me...
real and based
I love the Drizzt books
fleet zealot
i had the icewind dale triology but it was really old and my father didn't take good care of it so it fell apart, i miss the phsyical copies
visual stream
I picked up a Drizzt book without knowing what it was and, about ten pages in, got a very strong feeling that this was not supposed to be the first book I read
median steeple
i love immortality being horrific instead of something being nice
visual stream
I find out it is a like 30 year-long series, and it has been on my shelf ever since
calm salmon
i had the icewind dale triology but it was really old and my father didn't take ...
my mom had all of them up to uh
book 10?
something like that
and the Cattibrie quintuplet or whatever it was called
fleet zealot
oh yea, i read past that, past when catti brie and everyone else had died
calm salmon
and the Cattibrie quintuplet or whatever it was called
not cattibrie, but the cleric guy
calm salmon
The Cleric Quintet
I literally read that book in half
along with the first Gaunts Ghosts omnibus
visual stream
i love immortality being horrific instead of something being nice
There is a reason why liches aren't exactly put together up there 
calm salmon
I literally read that book in half
as in, read it so many times the binding in the spine split in half giving me "two" books
median steeple
I love liches
median steeple
Wtf I don't remember that scene lmao
calm salmon
immortality is spooky because inevitable heat death of the universe and whatever
sounds like hell with extra steps
visual stream
https://tenor.com/view/kars-kars-jojo-jojo-weep-woom-weep-woom-bone-zone-gif-230...
Kars by some miracle floats back into Earth, gets evaporated by stand users immediately
visual stream
I love liches
I thought of a funny idea regarding phylacteries
Imagine some freak of nature barbarian with insane con who swallows the phylactery or gets it magically attuned to his stomach or smth
Bro is a necrotic engine now with a permanent regeneration-locked lich in his stomach fuelling him
Good BBEG idea 
median steeple
my fav lich is Daurgothoth
a fucking nerd who only wants to do magic
and who is blessed by mystra
fleet zealot
Is it possible to be a good-aligned lich?
being undead kinda leans you away from good by default
you simply don't experience the emotions you normally quantify by default
but neutral/non evil liches exist
but no one ever becomes a lich for a selfless reason
median steeple
there we go found the description
Archliches were a type of lich that was good and noble, both in life and undeath. They could be of any type of spellcaster—including wizards, bards or clerics—and devoted their existence to whatever noble purpose motivated their transformation into lichdom.[2][1]
How this works?
no idea
visual stream
Ohhh sick
fleet zealot
i kinda get archliches
visual stream
An archlich cleric sounds awesome
fleet zealot
but being undead changes a lot
visual stream
God's best soldier, too angry to die
fleet zealot
and in general, most good aligned gods aren't a fan of breaking the natural order beyond natural death (rezzing a hero is fine, bringing back grandma isn't)
median steeple
they seem fundamentally different to other undead
sour oxide
what if grandma is the hero
median steeple
they dont have mental issues like deteriorating personalities
fleet zealot
true, I am kinda biased seeing through certain lense of settings
fleet zealot
they dont have mental issues like deteriorating personalities
holding up
nah, some liches can indeed be just as crazy as they were in life
median steeple
yea me
fleet zealot
and being undead in most settings dulls your positive emotions
you don't feel any sort of warm happy feelings anymore
median steeple
This is going off of FR so undead may be different
fleet zealot
i just see any archlich for any period of time either sliding to NG at most
if not LN or N
calm salmon
being undead kinda leans you away from good by default
Withers be out here like "No."
Though, spoilers ahead
fleet zealot
Withers be out here like "No."
withers isn't evil
calm salmon
|| He's the old god of death ||
median steeple
I love withers
calm salmon
So like
fleet zealot
i'm not saying liches have to be evil
calm salmon
he's in a weird spot for undead creatures
median steeple
I'
calm salmon
most undead creatures wanna eat your liver
calm salmon
Yeah, Withers is like the ultimate example of "exception that proves the rule"
I gave ketheric like 99 chances to redeem himself
and he still couldn't
fuckin prick
calm salmon
That said, I exhausted every single paladin dialogue with him
so like
I did my roleplay
ketheric failed the vibe check
DIVINE SMITE
Kinda funny because I was an Oath of the Ancients paladin
median steeple
polar nexus
Because I like J.K Simmons and wanted to see more of him
Man, i finally met Ketheric yesterday and i was like Heyyyyy i know that sexy voice
fleet zealot
my ass could not stand being a paladin
calm salmon
I don't get what people hated about the paladin rules though
THEY'RE SO VAGUE
this shit is super fuckin obvious though
don't be a prick
judge fairly
don't lie
like
median steeple
my ass could not stand being a paladin
me oathbreaking everytime I play just to listen to the knight
drowsy steppe
Vengeance has more leeway than the other 2
calm salmon
>don't be a prick
>judge fairly
>don't lie
oh and for OoTA Paladin
Form love
cause you gotta keep your own light too
not just foment light in others
calm salmon
oh and for OoTA Paladin
>Form love
Shadowheart my beloved 😍
calm salmon
Vengeance has more leeway than the other 2
OoTA has the most leeway
You cannot fail your oath so long as you kill evil creations
there's not another interaction in the game that can make you fail it
Auntie Ethel - no deal
etc etc etc
calm salmon
You cannot fail your oath so long as you kill evil creations
you can toy with raphael, but you can't take his deal.
Stuff like that.
Unnatural and evil phenomena gotta go
Other than that, go buck wild kid
fleet zealot
I think Ive played every class except paladin for a considerable amount of time
Oh one time i made a blackguard fallen paladin in 3.5e
fleet zealot
Im getting into multiclassing rn in my current campaign
drowsy steppe
OoTA has the *most* leeway
It's the simplicity of vengeance I like
You see and hear any evil
fleet zealot
My archeologist (college of lore bard) is multiclassin wizard with intent on focusing on necromancy
drowsy steppe
You smite it. No compromises
median steeple
make sure to get the book
drowsy steppe
Makes for interesting roleplay imo
median steeple
Augh I gotta stop multitasking
calm salmon
make sure to get the book
I never did anything with that book in BG3
It just kinda stayed in a box in my camp for the whole campaign
drowsy steppe
Shadowheart my beloved 😍
Based
drowsy steppe
Never bothered with the thay book too lmao
I forgor I think you have to remove curse it
median steeple
The last spell you get from it is gad
calm salmon
Yeah I couldn't figure it out, so it just stayed in camp for the whole campaign
fleet zealot
Is it kill cloud?
ripe quest
womp womp
median steeple
my fav spell will always be disintegrate
misty mason
Danse Macabre
median steeple
shit goes hard
misty mason
It rules because ghouls can paralyse on hit
And if you have a paladin or rogue in your party, big numba go boom
drowsy steppe
Hold monster
polar nexus
Hug monster
median steeple
do not the monster
polar nexus
question
i'm at the moonrise towers
i have to option to free people
if i go to the mausoleum to get the ortho thing to kill thorm and i come back, can i still free them?
or should i do it rn
drowsy steppe
Just don't do the nightsong before you free them and you'll be alright
polar nexus
that's the answer i needed thx
drowsy steppe
Neato
polar nexus
man, i'll probably have to genocide the entire tower to free them ;/
drowsy steppe
You just need to kill the whole moonrise prison and the docks area of enemies
The rest of moonrise won't turn hostile
drowsy steppe
It'll summon more zealots ye
Just have someone with high STR to push the orbs to the chams
Or have someone with GWM or Sharpshooter feat to damage them
polar nexus
silent hull
stamina to carapace and surgical to pinning fire or cavalcade?
calm salmon
stamina to carapace and surgical to pinning fire or cavalcade?
ouch
that is one bricked bolter
Maniac, Elites/Flak, Pinning Fire, Cavalcade
that's what you want on zealot bolter
you can also do Maniac/Carapace or Carapace, Flak/Elites if you run throwing knives
as the throwing knives are gonna do all the work on specials
burnt ivy
hi all
sour oxide
Allor
burnt ivy
been cooking the heretics, recently
I'll take the lower flamer score on my zealot, if I can find coherency
sour oxide
Whatever works best with your play style by all means go for it
royal vortex
@coarse birch i am learning the secrets of the mk7
if you fold then push into a heavy you break your arms
and the folded heavy has enough cleave to go through 1 poxwalker/groaner
coarse birch
i thought you were talking about devils claw for a second
and i was so fucking confused
royal vortex
my folding sword
royal vortex
it cleaves 1
and then it does the stick-in and pull out on the 2nd target
im guessing its so that it doesnt quite feel so awful with the weird heavy anim
coarse birch
ok yeah that makes more sense
hm
that is interesting
wonder if it would be cleaner on mk5
also im finally making a warp charges build
royal vortex
may god have mercy on your soul
ripe quest
<@1117340723692445746> i am learning the secrets of the mk7
H1 PA puts in work on hordes, competes with Caxe.
coarse birch
BM caxe?
ripe quest
mhm
coarse birch
damn
ripe quest
assuming BM on the Taxe
coarse birch
wait taxe
royal vortex
i am speaking of the shovel
royal vortex
folding taxe
royal vortex
how many fucking mk7s are there
ripe quest
Well this is where I also throw in that the Mk VII Taxe outcompetes DClaw for horde clear.
royal vortex
my favorite part about the taxes is that the heavies stagger ragers for some reason
coarse birch
special staggers like everything too
coarse birch
was kinda nice when i needed to fight a crusher for 10 minutes
royal vortex
a fucking ogryn shovel requires thrust and crunch or the impact talent and thrust on a headshot
royal vortex
was kinda nice when i needed to fight a crusher for 10 minutes
how are u fighting a crusher for 10 mins
coarse birch
it was a taxe bad joke
royal vortex
on a vet melee build i can get a taxe2 up to like 900 dps with shred/recip
(vs carapace)
royal vortex
trust no one...
coarse birch
you have not betrayed my trust nor given me a reason to stop trusting you
i was running DD scriers
royal vortex
i want them to make psyker blessings for all the non force weapons
coarse birch
wasnt running cara
royal vortex
unironically put warp nexus on literally everything
calm salmon
trust no one...
why the fuck do you keep changing your name josho
royal vortex
stan
calm salmon
abusing my compact discord like this
coarse birch
stan
calm salmon
coarse birch
if stan messes up a name it is tradition to rename yourself
or he butchers something so badly
you change your name
see dough/laz
royal vortex
dude why does the mk3 shovel have such a bad push attack
coarse birch
is that the overhead
coarse birch
ah
royal vortex
it chains into the overhead heavy
coarse birch
yeah shovel lights have never felt great to me minus the attack speed
polar nexus
that's what you want on zealot bolter
that's just one build, you can still use pinning fire + surgical or shattering
coarse birch
they arent terrible with uncanny up
i probs wouldnt do a surgical build on zealot tbh
like i dont think its bad just not something id run personally
i think he benefits more from the cava bolter
royal vortex
surgical works on vet because u just not interact with suppression
royal vortex
also not taking shattering because you should be chastising vs crushers anyways and at that point the brittleness isn't doing much
polar nexus
well, i disagree
coarse birch
flak ADM is p cracked
calm salmon
at least there's actual perk choices on bolter for zealot I guess
polar nexus
you don't have to chastise all the time
calm salmon
carapace/maniac/elites/flak
but its just PF+Cavalcade
and das it
for "meta choices"
coarse birch
i think josho runs cara actually
polar nexus
and i was adsing with a bolter without supression for the longest time
royal vortex
you should be chastising pretty much always. it's not a rare enough resource to consider swapping out a blessing for a worse one to cover a specific niche scenario
coarse birch
^
calm salmon
I think my gut feeling would be:
Carapace, Elites, PF, Cavalcade for the ideal zeaot bolter
with FotF and throwing knives
polar nexus
i agree with puri
calm salmon
down to whatever keystone you want
polar nexus
you have choice
coarse birch
thats p much what i run
polar nexus
and cavalcade + pinning is probably the most meta
polar nexus
but that's not the only one
coarse birch
surgical can do work on like a MF vet
calm salmon
if yes, elites, if no, maniac
royal vortex
surgical can do work on like a MF vet
surgical deadshot is p much baseline 50% crit chance for how you use it
polar nexus
and i ran with a zealot just outdamaging everyone on bolter with pf + shattering
royal vortex
that means very little
coarse birch
i run shattering cause im stuck with it and it does do fine
but id still run cava over it
like SI is a choice, just not an amazing one
royal vortex
scoreboard numbers aren't super indicative of the optimal choices for weapons
coarse birch
idk how often im really noticing the brittleness, or anyone for that matter
polar nexus
that means very little
it's not evidence,, it's just that your weapon is not bricked if you get shattering + pf
royal vortex
bolter's adms vs non-cara are super high
it's weird and i don't think particularly lore accurate which is a shame
polar nexus
surgical deadshot is p much baseline 50% crit chance for how you use it
i used marksman + deadshot on surgical bolter and revolver... and i prefer revolver 😦
even tho i feel marksman is just making me overkill everything except a crusher
royal vortex
if im playing a ranged backline type build im never taking revolver because i will simply spend too much time mid-fight in downtime
coarse birch
josho does make bolter MF look really good though
calm salmon
it's weird and i don't think particularly lore accurate which is a shame
it'd be kinda unfun to shoot through enemies dealing minimal damage though
royal vortex
calm salmon
needing to actually use the minimum arming distance would be pain
royal vortex
a lot of the time im hitting spread out targets behind or beyond my team that aren't lined up for cleave
polar nexus
it's weird and i don't think particularly lore accurate which is a shame
i mean it's a mini rocket
polar nexus
ah yeah
royal vortex
i think the buff to 1.0 adm from 0.85 was completely unnecessary
polar nexus
crab thinks so
coarse birch
the flak adm is actually so good your better off not chastising maulers unless your consistently headshotting iirc
coarse birch
yeah the DPS likely evens out essentially
royal vortex
https://streamable.com/mxqfr5
it uploaded twice what da hell
coarse birch
it only uploaded once
royal vortex
woe upon my STUPID brain
coarse birch
wym
royal vortex
no the video doubles
coarse birch
oh i see
royal vortex
idk what the hell causes that
royal vortex
josho does make bolter MF look really good though
also unironically a lot of the time you don't even have to hit heads
royal vortex
this thing is really similar to p12 pf bolter but you have to go full in on ranged damage
coarse birch
or you have like anything going
royal vortex
and crits
royal vortex
this is probably (i say this all the time) my favorite vet build
royal vortex
full left side is fun
coarse birch
ive seen you just kinda chill in poxwalkers before i clear them lol
royal vortex
iron will gives you like 1 more swing before death with my measly 163 toughness
royal vortex
ive seen you just kinda chill in poxwalkers before i clear them lol
i will legit just stand there in the horde if i can get away with it
because it takes a single bolter round to stagger and give yourself space
polar nexus
i use this on my rev and bolter
coarse birch
becoming a true vet
royal vortex
and you can dodge-dance a lot of stuff anyways
royal vortex
its like the bell curve meme
polar nexus
crushes are elites
coarse birch
watching you not quite kill those gunners
royal vortex
i think flak/elites with my build gets you a 1 shot bp
on maulers
with all the buffs up
royal vortex
watching you not quite kill those gunners
dreg gunners are pain
coarse birch
unarmored is a perk i never want to run but sometimes i wonder
although elites usually covers it
royal vortex
i use this on my rev and bolter
i really wish i could take out for blood on a marksman build but i literally never have the points
no duck n dive sounds like it hurts
calm salmon
i really wish i could take out for blood on a marksman build but i literally nev...
this is why I hate vet's tree
it just feels like three distinct builds
calm salmon
instead of something that you can flex around with like the other trees
polar nexus
i don't always ads
royal vortex
honestly i like vet having more specific playstyle identities
coarse birch
i do like it feels so distinct
royal vortex
but the number of nodes is too high
coarse birch
its just got bloat
polar nexus
i do hipfire a lot if adsing is too costly
coarse birch
like i love psyker but one of my main issues is it kinda feels like 2 builds
as opposed to like a varied tree
burnt ivy
Had my controller explode on me twice, playing zealot. Thumbsticks popped off
fleet zealot
I think BR is underrated
fleet zealot
But it also just doesnt feel good to use
polar nexus
i use my bolter the same way on zealot and vet tbh
burnt ivy
my vet thinks he's a zealot
fleet zealot
Assail and smite just have more flair to them
burnt ivy
shotgunners
coarse birch
it would feel a bit better in a world where Assail RMB didnt do 90% of BRs job too
burnt ivy
coherency if we can rally
royal vortex
i use my bolter the same way on zealot and vet tbh
my playstyle for it on the classes are the opposite of each other
coarse birch
assail pretty much just comes with BR if your not fighting a crusher
light holly
instead of something that you can flex around with like the other trees
To be fair, like middle tree works for any build
royal vortex
although sometimes i end up having to do dumb shit because i dont take suppression immunity
coarse birch
minus uncanny stuff