#zealot-class

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south folio
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and to a ranged enemy at that

royal vortex
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they should make shotgunners and stalkers spawn behind you

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and hunt u down

lusty turtle
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simpler times

lusty turtle
solar gorge
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now all i fear is the barrel next to me and my three teammates behind me

lusty turtle
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like a squad of storm troopers

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that just are hunting ud

royal vortex
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they need to differentiate stalkers from shooters more meaningfully

lusty turtle
south folio
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i'm itching for an enemy type that's more than an elite and less than a boss

royal vortex
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but the only dreg shooter types are stalkers rn which makes it a lil weird

royal vortex
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like ppl knew they existed almost purely because scab stalkers werent highlighted by counterfire for the longest time

solar gorge
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make mutants annoying to take down again

royal vortex
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(nowadays)

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i blow myself up more than my teammates

vocal pulsar
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josho still bursters people

royal vortex
lusty turtle
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gotta time it better and rocket jump the gap

royal vortex
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😔

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next time

vocal pulsar
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i thought you were gonna get helldivers josho

royal vortex
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i am going to

frozen glen
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when

royal vortex
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before the heath death of my house

vocal pulsar
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who is heath

fading vale
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heath death

royal vortex
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heat

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fuck

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GOD

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DAMNIT

lusty turtle
vocal pulsar
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josho has been too close to s tan

royal vortex
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NO

south folio
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s tan

royal vortex
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what

fading vale
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heath bar blizzard kinda slaps tho

earnest cave
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I just had a fuzzy moment with three other zealots, 4 man zealot damnation run, whoever you are, that's right, we don't leave our brethren and sistren behind.

vocal pulsar
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300 in tha s tore

royal vortex
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keep it as a souvenir

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when we do meme games bring that

earnest cave
vocal pulsar
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i like learning new words

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thanks

earnest cave
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🙂

frozen glen
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how did rogue trader have the old windows bug

royal vortex
vocal pulsar
fading vale
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I've never heard it but somebody came in hear saying sistren and apologizing for being cringe

south folio
royal vortex
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SHUT UP

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OH MY GOD

frozen glen
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its the same person

fading vale
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ah

earnest cave
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I googled it and realized..."somebody already trademarked it, damn"

fading vale
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apparently it originates in middle English

frozen glen
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too much warp factor

earnest cave
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Yea it was pretty cool @fading vale

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Realized after my bottle of mead that maybe it was cringe and I was like "dammit that was not the intention."

lusty turtle
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its fucked up my friend fell out of the source skybox in our rogue trader run

fading vale
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after my bottle of mead

earnest cave
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It's been so long

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hehe long

fading vale
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what era are you from

earnest cave
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states. CO

fading vale
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didn't realize Colorado was an era

earnest cave
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Oh

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You said era

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Uhhhh

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Late 80's.

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There ya go.

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The golden age for Metal

earnest cave
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Nah CO has some good meaderies around here and I picked up a bottle. Once you open the bottle though, it goes bad pretty fast.

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Nobody wanted to share so I decided to drink it.

fading vale
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just had a helldivers game with 0 friendly fire damage, what is this madness

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I suppose Colorado would be a location for being like mead is back and cool

earnest cave
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Nah I think it could be good anywhere as long as you've got a decent bee farm.

solar gorge
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isn't mead the thing medieval serfs would drink at ye tavern

earnest cave
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I think there are some here that are made with vegetables though

earnest cave
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I think mead is....traditionally a celtic drink.

fading vale
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what about the mead from kingcobrajfs

earnest cave
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I have no idea who that is.

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But if it's good, I'll drink it.

fading vale
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it's a horrifying YouTube channel with cooking and mead

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makes like, "bacon and chocolate" mead

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and it's atrocious

solar gorge
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seems like the average NA cooking channel to me

fading vale
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I bet stan could make a living off of a cooking channel

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there are 2 criteria for success

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either you can cook really well and make good content or

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your cooking is so terrible and you are overconfident that it's funny

solar gorge
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I know one with a single mom unironically cooking stuff like spaghetti's in coke

obtuse stirrup
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Regular Ordinary Swedish Meal Time was good too

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3rd criterion: be insane

spare dome
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MAYONNAISE

solar gorge
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She's French

fading vale
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I see I see

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Kingcobra has a video on mountain dew eggs I think

obtuse stirrup
lusty turtle
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Mayonnaise is a sin

frosty herald
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Surprised cobra hasnt gotten food poisoning

fading vale
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excess pure unadulterated mayo

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is gross as fuck

solar gorge
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just like Ketchup

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you have to be 10 or under to eat that I'm sorry

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It's just horrible

lusty turtle
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Real

fading vale
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about the only thing I have ketchup with now is fries

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and burgers

fading vale
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well and scrambled eggs depending

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and maybe grilled cheese if I don't have tomato soup

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and then I went to Germany and they just dip shit in mayo

deep imp
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look's like some ppl don't like zealot lol, I was playing with 2 Ogryn and 1 Psyker and this happen:

at one point they told me not to play alone when I'd just tried to break through with a dash to kill the elites/gunners, a few minutes later they told me not to do the objectiv when I'd literally done 80% of the objectives in the solo game, at one point I went to get all the objectives while they were farming

nimble fiber
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wouldn't eat mayo on its own tho

violet hornet
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Out of curiosity I once tried dipping fries in mayo and it was a revelation. Shit made me start buying fancy mayo

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Fries gotta be hot, crunchy, and seasoned to be right tho

nimble fiber
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definitely

violet hornet
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Mayo / Dijon / hot sauce mix on an egg sandwich is nice too

obtuse stirrup
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And that any kind of pace at all is speedrunning

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Because they want to stop and shoot every single Groaner individually with their rumbler before they can leave the room

violet hornet
polar nexus
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Yanna is not on discord anymore?

solar gorge
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I hate mayo

old badger
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germans are quite white

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I mean you can't be that surprised

frosty herald
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Just in other servers

frank night
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so ppl look at a 'speedrunner' (guy pressing w) when they're sat 300 miles behind where they should be in a mission and think they're the problem

royal vortex
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gendry with the hard hitting FACTS.

prisma sigil
frozen glen
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this is just an excuse to flaunt ur 1m damage game

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also shouldnt u be asleep

frank night
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what if u were told that u can kill masses of enemies without taking an entire hour per mission

royal vortex
frozen glen
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prime eepy time

royal vortex
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wrong

frank night
royal vortex
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i downloaded that mod because i was making a dumb shitpost bleed build for vet

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and i was trying to get over 70k bleed damage

frank night
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sentence could have stopped here

royal vortex
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your parents couldve stopped before you were born but here we are

frank night
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u would have fallen to the darkside

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i am ur yoda

frank night
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ur destiny is to fight the dark reflection of urself (sleep deprivation hallucination) in the cursed grotto (grimy alleyway) upon dagobah (South Carolina)

royal vortex
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why a grimy alleyway

frank night
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do you have alleyways that aren't grimy

royal vortex
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plenty

frank night
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why do you have experience of the non-grimy alleyways

royal vortex
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are ur alleyways grimy

frank night
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the shortcut to get to work used to be an alley next to a pub

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le fragrance du piss

royal vortex
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u get what u deserve

frank night
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gainful employment

shy river
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Did a hab dumbo in less than 20 minutes, that was nice with people actually doing the objectives at the end

flint birch
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hey guys whats the ideal flamer setup?

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overpressure/ blazeaway?

wraith helm
solar gorge
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Overpressure is bugged and doesn't affect DOT dmg

placid fiber
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I've been playing a lot of Tom Clancy's The Division 2, lately, and I have 1 thing to say about it: I fucking wish there was a way I could use a melee weapon besides just pimp slapping a nearby enemy... :/

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I want more melee combat, like Darktide... At least I knew that was not part of the game before I got it >.>'

fleet zealot
placid fiber
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The ranged combat is less satisfying than Darktide's, imo, as well... which is kinda sad since it is first a 3rd person shooter game :/

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I do like the fact I can get sniper rifles and stuff, tho... :\

void bison
placid fiber
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I agree, yog. I haven't seen you in ages, Yog, how are you doing?

frozen glen
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holy shit yog is back

void bison
placid fiber
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Finally! We can succeed, since we have Yog here guiding us!

void bison
void bison
placid fiber
void bison
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i may buy division 2 someday

placid fiber
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erm there's a better picture

placid fiber
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So far it is a lot better than I thought it was going to be

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Granted... I haven't gotten to the super extra grindy part of the game, yet... aka the end game >.>'

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Aka: The part of games like mmorpgs that lose me due to my adhd hating grinding things in games... x.x

void bison
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if you have fun all the way through and got it on a deep sale then the endgame isnt that important

stone fern
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what are the dump stats on chainswords?

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the heavy ones

void bison
next trench
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121 combo jazus

nimble fiber
fleet zealot
next trench
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which perks you guys suggest?

royal vortex
fleet zealot
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oh i should probably change my name back now

fleet zealot
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probably change off specialists

next trench
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does bosses count as maniac?

stone fern
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unyielding

next trench
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maniacs should be good right

vocal pulsar
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unecessary

royal vortex
void bison
vocal pulsar
next trench
fleet zealot
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maniac will help with activated light taps vs dreg ragers

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once your power blessing is ramped up

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it is a good omen yog returns, that means the next patch has plague toads

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/j

frozen glen
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darcy will come back next

fleet zealot
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🙏

royal vortex
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somehow

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darcy returned

frozen glen
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josho go to sleep

nimble fiber
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nah too risky sequels are almost always disappointing

royal vortex
placid fiber
frank night
mossy scarab
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Please no. Darcy was a menace

wraith helm
frozen glen
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the beyond one

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yog sothoth

frank night
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the new helldivers exp is the pubs blowing themselves up for all of your reinforcements

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so when stuff actually gets difficult

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you have no reinforcements

north sedge
frank night
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guy walks into a base

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guy calls in eagle on himself

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guy spams 'request reinforce' button

lusty turtle
royal vortex
fleet zealot
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duster

rough galleon
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I believe that everyone should have the opportunity to be a hero, especially people who aren't me, so go stand under the bile titan and hold this 500kg bomb marker

lusty turtle
frosty herald
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Virus bombing the emperor's children warband

spare dome
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the eagle strategems do kick ass

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i wonder how many months im gonna have to wait for most of the G*mers to filter out of their official Discord

frosty herald
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Just say gamers

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Not that scary

nimble fiber
spare dome
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no no

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gamers is a separate category from G*mers

frosty herald
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You mean twitter drivel?

spare dome
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yea pretty well

frosty herald
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People using the term are usualy worse than the "g*mers"

mossy scarab
spare dome
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Gaymers are rarely G*mers but I suppose there could be overlap

nimble fiber
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I am confusion

frosty herald
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El gato

spare dome
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i see many gatos

rose flower
median steeple
rose flower
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So random idea

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Playing Vermintide 2 for the first time recently.

How balanced or good would it be for Zealot to have an ability like Slayer. Where you get two different melee weapons

spare dome
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Ranged is pretty important.

obtuse stirrup
frosty herald
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You would have to rely on your teammates being smart enough to kill ranged units

obtuse stirrup
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funnily enough though, veteran does have that ability

spare dome
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So I'd say balanced in the sense that it wouldn't be unbalanced lol

obtuse stirrup
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since the hellbore I and II are both great melee weapons

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but nobody completely sacrifices their gun

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you can have a versatile melee weapon instead if you like

spare dome
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I never tried to complete the 'fire no bullets in a round' achievement intentionally

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but i did get it after 2500hrs

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So in 2500hrs there was a single occasion where my ranged weapon choice was irrelevant

rose flower
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Tbh. Sometimes I forget I have a gun

obtuse stirrup
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That's the only way I can imagine completely sidelining your gun

rose flower
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Sometimes. I usually run stun grenade

obtuse stirrup
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(not asking it as a perjorative btw, throwing knives are friggin awesome)

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(love them, it's like the revolver if the revolver took any amount of skill)

rose flower
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I like chastise though so

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If I feel remotely threatened at range I usually just close that asap

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But yah I’ve been using knives recently and they’re my “oh shit” button

median steeple
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Holy shit yog is back

median steeple
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I can smell that gif

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I miss owning tree frogs

royal vortex
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i can smell burning toast

median steeple
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Immsorru for your loas

void bison
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josho do you own helldivers 2

royal vortex
royal vortex
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i will soon

void bison
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do u hate me or do you wanna game when you do

royal vortex
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sure

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(to the second one)

median steeple
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Hangover is making typing fast hard

royal vortex
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somehow u are still doing better than stan

median steeple
void bison
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helldivers 2 is the most cinematic multiplayer experience ive had for some time now

median steeple
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It's so fun

frosty herald
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I would maybe get helldivers 2 if it didnt have the intrusive anticheat

lusty turtle
void bison
median steeple
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I need it so bad

void bison
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my fella do be drippin

median steeple
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hd2 while crossfaded is an experience to say

void bison
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i havent tried it yet

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ive been stuck with delta 9 edibles until i got a new cartridge yesterday

median steeple
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I have way to many clips of this game already

daring tree
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LF Help with shocking Stuff penance

rose flower
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Do any weapons in this game at all use Haymaker well?

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Or is it just a “haha funny instalill sometimes” thing

median steeple
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I dont think there is any weapons that can use it well ( i could be wrong )

spare dome
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Mk6 knife

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One of the bully clubs

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Or all of them now perhaps

median steeple
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I dont use bully clubs enough

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I think it got buffed in P13

spare dome
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Whether its meta or some shit. Probably not.

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But they do work.

fleet zealot
rose flower
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How is this then?

spare dome
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teefies

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
spare dome
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probably totally useable knife

fleet zealot
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basically bricked cause you put on flak before fully upgrading

spare dome
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i just think the mk6 suuuuucks

median steeple
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yeah haymaker is good on the MK1, MK2 clubs

royal vortex
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i put haymaker on my eviscerator

median steeple
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evis has haymaker?

royal vortex
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i am lying

spare dome
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if u have faith anything can be true

median steeple
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I wish it did now

royal vortex
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just believe

median steeple
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i might try to get a good Mk1 club

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to try haymaker

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that or a mk2

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i assume the diff is moveset?

nimble fiber
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good luck with that, may the emperor bless u with rng

royal vortex
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the order of heavies is swapped

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the mk2 also gets a special slap followup light but they nerfed it into uselessness for some god awful reason

median steeple
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was that the funny one that stunlocked bosses? or am I thinking of the BBs special

royal vortex
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the club slaps all stunlock bosses atm

median steeple
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wicked

rose flower
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Didn’t the one shovel stunlock a Chaos Spawn at one point?

royal vortex
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it used to do it super consistently

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now u have to do some ult stagger shenanigants with taunt or bullrush to get it set up

deep fossil
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I've been digging helldivers. they're in the middle of fixing their servers after all the strain brok the system, but that's most multiplayer matchmaking games the first few days after release. I like having it and darktide available to me. they're good to bounce back and forth between. I don't get burned out on either

solar gorge
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i'll surely enjoy hd2 when it stops fucking crashing

median steeple
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the nivida conspiracy

royal vortex
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very cool feature

deep fossil
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and to get straight up visceral melee out of my system after a bunch of run and gun on heldivers, I broke the zealot out of deep freeze; trying out lvl 5 difficulty games and need my Zarona tooled out. What's the thoughts on blessings these days? surgical, and... hand cannon? the others seem geared around being most of the way through the mag, which I usually am not doing.

median steeple
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yeah its still surg HC for revolver

median steeple
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sounds like a pat on the head

royal vortex
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skin to skin contact

fading vale
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I've started getting a lot of cat shorts and honestly it's great

median steeple
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ytshorts are the best and worse thing in the world

fading vale
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yeah sometimes I get really weird shit

void bison
median steeple
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I straight up got fed propaganda from billionaires on there

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That was fun

nimble fiber
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true, let the bro give and vibe

royal vortex
median steeple
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Autocorrect sabotaging me afain

royal vortex
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i love that u can stagger a bon with the slap

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its so dumb

median steeple
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Holy shit the animation is hilarious

fading vale
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are you back to kronk hours

royal vortex
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no these are just old clips

royal vortex
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the boss staggering on ogryn got old

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i do it with void now

fading vale
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lol

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why you can permastun monstrosities the world will never know

royal vortex
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surely this means we need to buff their HP again

obtuse stirrup
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think the chaos spawn's more staggerable right?

fading vale
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yes we can solve all problems by changing HP values surely

obtuse stirrup
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so that you can actually stunlock fully now

obtuse stirrup
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second hand information, haven't seen it myself

royal vortex
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if u have an ability that staggers 1 it'll stagger all of them pmuch

median steeple
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God I really want that goofy gunplaugegryn

obtuse stirrup
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cspawns have less building resistance or something?

royal vortex
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void will stun anything on weakspot hits

frosty herald
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thammer charged heavy staggers bosses rite

royal vortex
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no

fading vale
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no

frosty herald
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bruh

royal vortex
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but not for weapons like void or slaps

fading vale
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weapons

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like slaps

royal vortex
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slaps

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yea

fading vale
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lol

frosty herald
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it would make alot more sense for thammer to stagger

royal vortex
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The Hand

fading vale
royal vortex
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TRUE

royal vortex
frosty herald
obtuse stirrup
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it's not the impact of the ogryn slap that causes the stagger

lusty turtle
obtuse stirrup
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it's the disrespect

fading vale
royal vortex
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u should never have options that make an enemy type completely nonexistent

frosty herald
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just make the boss more resistant to being staggered when you hit the breakpoint

shy river
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Nah I'm gonna slap this daemonhost off the cliff cuz it's funny

royal vortex
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this already happens the reset time on it is just short

frosty herald
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too short

fading vale
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they just made a few things do stupid stagger values to them

royal vortex
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u shouldnt be staggering bosses for 0 resource cost ever

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so void and slaps need to be tuned down because staggering a boss with them is free

frosty herald
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say the boss needs 1k stance damage to be staggered and the thammer does 1k

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the next time you want it to stagger its 2k

royal vortex
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darktide already has a stagger system that works idk why u would do that

frosty herald
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and caps out at 3k stance

fading vale
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bosses have an enrage bar

frosty herald
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some attacks 100% look like they need to stagger

lusty turtle
royal vortex
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they nerfed the explosion damage and i think stagger to unyielding enemies

fading vale
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they should let the daemonhost merge with the other monstrosities

royal vortex
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i miss when it did

median steeple
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Megazord monstrosity

royal vortex
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i played gumbler a couple times with laz and he was not happy

fading vale
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god it's so fucking obnoxious

lusty turtle
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i dont blame laz

royal vortex
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i was an ogryn shaped swarm of locusts

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the ammunition was consumed

lusty turtle
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glugger is an abomination

royal vortex
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gunlugger is legitimately the most degenerate intended playstyle i think fs has

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because ogryn has a plethora of guns that are mid unless ur in gunlugger ult

lusty turtle
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i think that goes for skullbreaker aswell

fading vale
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can't see anything half the game, everything getting thrown around, monstrosities get knocked out of my range, all the ammo is instantly vacuumed

obtuse stirrup
lusty turtle
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intended 90% dr and stupid high dmg heavies with bleed

obtuse stirrup
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even without any melee boosts

royal vortex
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but gunlugger will also vacuum ammo up very quickly especially if u dont have good trigger discipline

fading vale
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we could just pull a ***** and blame the playtesters

lusty turtle
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ngl if i had my way thered be a full ogryn rework

obtuse stirrup
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you can have zero melee boosts and you still want to melee the horde

royal vortex
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i love the class

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i hate everything about it

lusty turtle
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buuut its in players hands now and they like it so the best we can do is adjustments

royal vortex
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the vibes are so cool

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but none of it makes any fucking sense and a bunch of the weapons are designed around not actually interacting with key mechanics like

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aiming

lusty turtle
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the vibes are cool but the numbers are unhinged and coop unfriendly

fading vale
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maybe darktide 3.0 in 8 months

royal vortex
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i have never used a stubber and thought i was doing more than an iag/brauto

lusty turtle
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quickpaw said they have somethin cookin for DT

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dunno what

fading vale
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they fucking better

frosty herald
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crack

royal vortex
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ngl i think the biggest thing i want is a big revamp to enemies at this point

fading vale
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haven't said anything in 2 months

frosty herald
wraith helm
lusty turtle
royal vortex
lusty turtle
fading vale
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I vote make crab the balance and combat design lead

royal vortex
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crab suggested giving ogryns the ability to dodge through trash so that u can get rid of some of the insane passive defense they get

lusty turtle
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dude

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lazorr if i could

royal vortex
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that man is a saint

frosty herald
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you mean just dodging sideways and bonking enemies away

lusty turtle
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working with on the crusher rework was so fun

royal vortex
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because u still feel like a big imposing motherfucker but it's not like

fading vale
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yeah I heard he was pretty involved in the new crusher or something

spare dome
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ogryn is having themselves a super mosh while everyone else is playing darktide

royal vortex
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"i sit here and tank an infinite number of sniper shots so long as they are spread out long enough to let me heavy twice"

royal vortex
lusty turtle
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thanks 🙏

obtuse stirrup
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Crusher is actually OP I think

lusty turtle
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always feels good knowing it landed right

spare dome
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i didnt realize for a while that Ogryn still has their old DR passive

obtuse stirrup
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it cuts down hordes like a blade

spare dome
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i thought that got rolled into FNP

obtuse stirrup
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and it kills elites like a hammer

lusty turtle
spare dome
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but he has both and thats just

lusty turtle
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so its less free

spare dome
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hilarious

fading vale
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I do think crusher is a bit OP yeah

obtuse stirrup
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drop the damage a little imo

lusty turtle
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but other then taht its in a good spot

obtuse stirrup
#

It's by far the strongest my zealot has ever felt

royal vortex
#

being able to spam activated attacks on crusher is a lil degenerate

obtuse stirrup
#

and it's not the most OP thing in the game

#

but it's a little overtuned imo

royal vortex
#

it's a tad too far into the "i just shut enemies down" thing but also u have stuff like trauma staff

fading vale
#

it can do everything well plus things that other weapons can't

frosty herald
#

crusher feels like a quarterstaff

fading vale
#

like melee a ton of elites and what not

lusty turtle
#

infact i think originally we wanted it entirely gone from the light

fading vale
#

were you the one that suggested an icd josho

lusty turtle
#

so the light just got cleave n dmg instead of a blast

royal vortex
#

i suggested to crab they should just give the activation a cooldown and he said that was dumb and he wanted to remove the aoe on light and make the heavy staged

#

so you have to charge it to get the full impact

fading vale
lusty turtle
#

ye like i said the stagger needs bonkin

royal vortex
lusty turtle
#

its way too free to heavy attack across a hoard and blast a crusher 5m away

fading vale
#

I understand the reasoning behind icd but

royal vortex
#

which makes the weapon weird

fading vale
#

I think that's too limiting for the player probably

lusty turtle
#

ye, although i do like how the stagger talents interact with the weapon for scalling how many maulers u can stumble n stuff

#

we just gotta fiddle some stuff here n there still tho

royal vortex
fading vale
#

and it would be better as some kind of like, power meter

royal vortex
#

a cooldown was just me throwing ideas at the wall because the base idea is u have to stop ppl from spamming activations

frosty herald
#

Lies of p is peak would use the booster handle for another playthrough

lusty turtle
#

i think if we had our way the special would be moved to a staged heavy instead

#

so you have to charge up the heavy to get the power

fading vale
#

give it a weak baseline activation and then a power meter you can build by smacking things

royal vortex
#

we need staged heavies in dt

#

that would be cool

golden anchor
#

Thats call d thrust talent lol

lusty turtle
#

a charge meter COULD be cool but i can see some complaints about it being another thing to manage

fading vale
#

boo hoo

royal vortex
#

crusher is kinda pushing the complexity limit though yea

golden anchor
#

Thrustlesing! W/e

#

Thrust blessing

#

Fuckin autocorrect

fading vale
#

they can go jerk off to the caxe for all I care

#

plenty of free boring weapons

livid siren
#

yeah but why do you not listen to this while playing

royal vortex
#

i hope when (if) they come out with crusher variants they do equally cool stuff for the moveset/activations

#

i want one with a stab heavy

lusty turtle
royal vortex
#

that if u kill a guy with using an activation it sends him FLYING backwards and staggers the guys he hits

lusty turtle
#

tbh tho prob just do minor touches on crusher to bring it in line for now

fading vale
#

yeah

lusty turtle
#

i wanna fix paul

livid siren
#

pmaul made for breaching voidship bulkheads

#

best i can do is 400 damage

fading vale
#

I don't know how to make ogryn melee more interesting

royal vortex
#

dude paul has moves with minimum cleave damage in the single digits

fading vale
#

every time I have watched josho melee on ogryn it's just the most braindead spam

lusty turtle
#

i have some ideas, we'll see what happens tho

lusty turtle
royal vortex
#

i genuinely wonder what u do with the paul because the moveset is like

#

gross

#

the l1 l2 is nice

lusty turtle
#

plan to approach it like crusher if i can and make each attack do something

obtuse stirrup
#

Ogryn having so many heavy attack synergy talents

#

Is kinda skewing

golden anchor
#

Every weapon in the game is braindead compared to vt2 though

fading vale
livid siren
#

me holding block and pressing m1 as saltz with billhook:

royal vortex
#

yea but paul unfortunately has more moves than that

#

and l3/l4 does pmuch the same thing as the heavies

#

there's also some really degenerate stuff here where doing a heavy into a light gives you a separate light attack that has an identical animation to the l3

#

for some fucking reason

#

same damage breakdown too

livid siren
#

heresy

frosty herald
#

Going through the entire map with bret longsword heavies

fading vale
#

yeah tbh all I heard about VT2 melee is spam weapons

lusty turtle
golden anchor
#

Flail and shield

#

Tbh all tide weapons are spam, people acting otherwise are fooling themselves lol

fading vale
#

crucis gang

royal vortex
lusty turtle
#

the main thing lights wise is def making the l1-2 single target, and if the heavies end up the anti horde thats still more variety than most ogryn weapons KEKW_ogryn

fading vale
#

ok well let's assume BM gets nuked from orbit pepecopium

royal vortex
#

they should make the push attack a jab

#

so you can have like the opposite of an obscurus combo

lusty turtle
#

i wanna give paul finesse

golden anchor
#

Unleash the datamined power surge lol

royal vortex
#

and it's stab -> strikedown -> uppercut vs obscurus strikedown -> uppercut -> stab

golden anchor
#

2 explosions on hit

royal vortex
fleet zealot
#

what will crusher 2 and 3 be like I wonder

royal vortex
#

wait is the nutshot l1 or l2

lusty turtle
#

if its hitbox is too big and makes that easy just make hitbox smoll

royal vortex
#

i cant remember

golden anchor
#

L2

lusty turtle
#

l2

royal vortex
#

damn

golden anchor
#

L1 is overhead

royal vortex
#

this is the bad part about shield having headshot prio is it completely fucks up your mauler damage

#

(especially because my ogryn is max height)

royal vortex
#

lmfao

lusty turtle
#

is it ever hard to miss heads with melee

royal vortex
#

if u have a shitty uppercut like the obscurus does

fading vale
#

I mean sometimes you don't want to hit heads, aka when maulers are present

royal vortex
#

but most of the time no

#

u had to FIGHT to break the man's skull

lusty turtle
#

is that a crab clip or do you just have the same naming sense for clips

royal vortex
#

the latter

#

i have no fucking clue what most of my clips are about until i watch them

#

this is one of the few i remember by name

#

my favorite part about the headshot stuff is that shovel has a stagger BP for thrust 3 + the impact passive and a headshot

#

vs ragers

hidden verge
#

any gud on zealot? 😄

fading vale
lusty turtle
#

truuuuu

royal vortex
#

so you had to actually fucking STRUGGLE with this stuff if u wanted to fight ragers successfully in melee

#

it was cursed

fading vale
royal vortex
fading vale
#

or meme with a crit caxe I guess

frank night
royal vortex
#

unironically one of the most fun ogryn experiences was probs p13 grenade gauntlet

#

because the punches would nuke all those pre elite hp buff enemies

fading vale
#

the punch should be amazing

#

but

#

it's not

verbal marlin
#

Friend's Eviscerator. Pretty fucking great. He plans on kleeping the Unyielding damage. Any recommendations?

royal vortex
#

dude you can grief yourself with the punch

#

because there's no stickiness

#

you can just drag the camera away from the enemy and the epicenter follows

golden anchor
#

Perfect strike into anything else lol

fading vale
safe bear
#

I just got to level 11 and have an eviscerator. I've chosen my entire personality for the remainder of Darktide

golden anchor
#

Perfect strike should just be deleted off evi, the anti synergy it has with mk2 is laughable

golden anchor
#

I dont think theres any weapon that wants perfect strike lol

fading vale
#

perfect strike isn't actually throwing if you go shred and full crit

hidden verge
frosty herald
#

Grenade gauntlet punch is the most fun thing ever

fading vale
#

cause pstrike is actually 0.25x hitmass and ignore carapace stoppage

golden anchor
#

I guess you just run chorus then

fading vale
#

but it's not good obviously

golden anchor
#

Pstrike fucks with revved strikes though

verbal marlin
#

Perfect, ty!!

fading vale
golden anchor
#

Yea, mk2 rev just goes straight through crusher off chastise lol

#

Unless they fixed it

verbal marlin
#

This is their braced autogun. Any suggestions?

fading vale
#

that hasn't been a thing since a long time ago afaik

#

I could be mistaken if it's specifically crushers, but then it would also be maulers

fleet zealot
#

get fire frenzy or death spitter+ flak or maniac

#

carapce sucks but it gives something when chastising crushers down

fading vale
verbal marlin
#

Ok, will let 'em know.

fading vale
#

it's usable with the above suggestion though

#

agri brauto isn't a weapon that requires stuff

golden anchor
#

Just requires the dodge talent that reduces spread

fading vale
#

eh

#

you don't really need it, good regardless

visual stream
#

you know who else isn't a weapon that requires stuff

golden anchor
#

Then again, you could just rely on someone else to kill snipers at distance in a timely fashion

verbal marlin
#

Ty!!

golden anchor
#

ItS a TeAM GaMe

fading vale
#

there aren't that many sniper spawns that are out of range of an agri brauto

#

crouch tap fire is surprisingly reliable

surreal shore
#

@fading vale which one is better?

#

like how importnat even is collateral

#

on this weapon?

fading vale
#

left but really no difference

golden anchor
#

Sort of important since theres a breakpoint to open up bulwarks from stagger

surreal shore
#

required?

golden anchor
#

Not sure what the number is, just check in psykanium

#

But i think its above 60

#

If its too low it takes multiple shots to stagger bulwark

#

If it drops shield in 1 shot ur good

hollow mantle
#

is the L3 on the Taxe VII really unreliable for anyone else? It seems crazy short range or just like it wants to register 50% of the time in my testing

fading vale
#

I think it's around 50

fading vale
#

and 7 is buggy

hollow mantle
#

I just noticed that. It animation cancels

#

if you let it full swing it always hits

#

what fucking trash

fading vale
#

also the range on the diagonal is a bit shorter

#

and the hitbox is pretty specific

#

but yeah don't use the 7

hollow mantle
#

its the L2, I was noting it wrong before. Left to right down up diagonal

fading vale
#

idk if it happens with the 4

hollow mantle
#

you can cancel it if you are just spamming attacks

#

because I cant get any closer to targets and it will just not register if attacking quickly but if I let it just go then it will always hit

#

lame

#

I had a 378 that I upgraded for shits and giggles and it rolled good stuff

#

too bad its on trash

spare dome
#

4 also has unfortunate jank on occasion

#

sometimes you get stuck in a heavy attack pose

#

your arms just broken in the air

hollow mantle
#

ive noticed that with the combat axes too

spare dome
#

and the special attack chain also breaks occasionally and locks you out of other inputs for a fraction of a second

hollow mantle
#

2 and 5

spare dome
#

still, taxes are solid

#

IV and II anyway

royal vortex
#

i think of them more as gasses

spare dome
#

they are clearly a plasma

royal vortex
#

big if true

hollow mantle
#

Is there a breakdown anywhere of how significant an extra percent of dodge distance is?

quiet sun
#

blessings how to open to bless again?

hollow mantle
#

gesundheit

lofty shell
#

Yaknow when I'm blessing farming, is it better to upgrade all the way to legendary for the blessing you need or should I just upgrade to blues

hollow mantle
#

I am pretty sure its better to just upgrade to blues

quiet sun
#

blues

lofty shell
#

legendary I'm sure doesn't affect the chance of getting a tier 4 blessing but really idk

naive star
#

I guess Thunderous isnt necessary for this?

hollow mantle
#

I think its off of base modifier but I am not sure its ever been confirmed

royal vortex
#

perk/blessing rating scales off tier

quiet sun
#

that is, you can get the fourth one from a blue weapon?

royal vortex
#

shitty 200 base mod weapons will very often roll t2s

fleet zealot
lofty shell
#

Glad to have my gut feeling confirmed at least then.

#

Oh I guess not

#

Guess it just got deconfirmed

#

This game hurts my head

royal vortex
#

around the 350+ rating is when you get p good chances of t4

naive star
#

Brutal and Headtaker BiS for Caxe?

quiet sun
hollow mantle
royal vortex
#

but really you can also just say that it scales off level, because your item rating range is based off your level and then the item rating determines your blessing rarity chances

hollow mantle
#

brutal and headtaker is meta

quasi marsh
golden anchor
naive star
lofty shell
#

Well so the fact that your going from purple to legendary has no real affect on the chance for which tier blessing you get?

#

Just the items rating?

hollow mantle
#

yeah swap carapace

#

youve got a beauty

royal vortex
#

i know the item rating does. some fs people have stated that you have a higher chance of t4 at gold but i can't say with any certainty that's true

quiet sun
#

weapons with high stats can only be obtained from the emperor? legendary quality

royal vortex
#

they also probably fuck with the RNG sometimes server side. way back there was a patch that made t4s significantly more common (at least from what ppl were saying)

naive star
#

Done, what kind of build suits Caxe best?

royal vortex
naive star
#

Momentum or Piety/Crit?

quiet sun
golden anchor
#

Momentum or martyrdom

obtuse stirrup
#

Both of brunt's shops, melk, Emperor gifts. Even mystery melk ( but don't bother with that)

hollow mantle
golden anchor
#

Caxe doesnt really synergize that well with crit builds

quasi marsh
obtuse stirrup
#

Usually brunt's main shop is best for curios, greens and greys though

lofty shell
#

Well I'm glad I don't have to roll for a new combat knife anytime soon at least then.

naive star
#

Funnily enough, fell in love with Rashad 1h ago when finished Psyker's melee weekly

lofty shell
#

tryin for revolvers tho ...

quasi marsh
#

i dont have proof but a lot of anecdotal evidence for it at least

naive star
#

Brutal Momentum made it so that you just hit any non-elite mob in the head and 3 of its buddies also lost heads

obtuse stirrup
#

Brunt's blues tend to be polluted with bad blessings

obtuse stirrup
#

Cannot get a rashad to Cleave consistently

#

Because veteran needs perfect stats for it to work on them

hollow mantle
obtuse stirrup
#

Hate new bromentum. Too binary.

naive star
#

Guess ill go martyrdom with this then, never liked martyrdom but this might be reason enough

hollow mantle
#

momentum gets you a crazy amount of mobility though with the unlisted dodge distance and dodge reset buffs

ember yew
naive star
#

How you deal with Crushers with Caxe? Switch to Boltgun?

ember yew
#

hit da head

hollow mantle
#

fury heavy chunks them pretty good

golden anchor
#

Headshot heavies stagger them

hollow mantle
#

and then heavies will finish them off

golden anchor
#

Can juggle heavies on a crowd of 4 reliably to cc them all

naive star
#

So i guess ranged option is just matter of preference then

hollow mantle
#

yeah when you are running caxe for sure

golden anchor
#

Something to kill bulwarks fast is nice

#

Bolter or kantrael

hollow mantle
#

its universal enough that you can take whatever really

golden anchor
#

Only thing annoying to deal with on caxe is mass bulwarks

hollow mantle
#

yeah

#

and only kantreal does real well with those

ember yew
#

im throwing fire nades against that, then just dance till they die

hollow mantle
#

or nades

#

if you arent a throwing knife chad

quiet sun
#

Are saint medic pants hard to get?

#

extraordinary quality

ember yew
#

no

#

its easy

golden anchor
#

Can proc it on a horde, just get hit and start swinging

hollow mantle
#

it used to be 75% right? before they changed it?

quiet sun
jaunty lava
#

That or thammer a boss with a crit at the right moment

golden anchor
#

Was still easy in the past, you restored to full on thunderhammer charged hit lol

#

Full heal revenant was a treat lol

calm salmon
#

while also not hard

#

there were basically two choices: combat axe and heavy sword

#

you could cheese it with thammer on a poxwalker but that's boring

hollow mantle
#

I got mine with flamer

#

back then

#

on a thicccc horde

drifting moss
#

Been whiffing trapper dodges so much it's nice to finally get back to actually not winding up in a net that kills me staregryn

#

(oh my god i am still wrangling with OBS to not crunch the bitrate any time something moves)

hollow mantle
#

Nice!

maiden path
hollow mantle
#

I know sliding on dodges extends the range a bit but does it actually help in avoiding melee hits that much? I noticed recently it actually uses an extra effective dodge when you put a slide onto it

naive star
drifting moss
naive star
#

Id like to get Bleed for Emperor and Second Wind for survivability, but dunno where to cut those talents from

royal vortex
#

no extra toughness talents will probs be a bit of a pain point

#

i would probably drop good balance for EWEW if nothing else but that comes down to personal preference

drifting moss
#

Something I've noticed is that uhhh
Extra toughness doesn't seem to actually do anything for melee

hollow mantle
#

maybe the slide just extends that time where it will break tracking? or it triggers an extra instance of a dodge to do it

naive star
royal vortex
#

me dumb i meant toughness regen

naive star
#

My wound curios are still work in progress, gotta go farm some plaststeel

royal vortex
#

i p much always take vicious offering or second wind depending on weapon

#

vicious offering isnt great on rashad and second wind takes a lot of points on a marty build so its kinda pain

hollow mantle
#

so thats an easy cut

naive star
#

Yeah Disdain was my last placement as didnt know where to put that one

drifting moss
hollow mantle
fleet zealot
#

ytou just

hollow mantle
#

I see people doing slide tech all match long and watching their POV gives me a headache

fleet zealot
#

cancel your slide

#

but yea, idk why you'd do it in melee besides certain monstros

naive star
#

Would Punishment be useful to stagger elites?

hollow mantle
#

you dont hit 3 enemies at a time too often and you are probably staggering them anyway. it will only proc in dense horde. Its a lot easier to have up with a weapon with more natural cleave I think

naive star
#

Or Grievous Wounds?

hollow mantle
#

that needs the impact

#

like heavy sword

naive star
#

Ok makes sense, oh well, ill go test it out and see what id like to change afterwards

drifting moss
naive star
#

I look like an idiot constantly crouching and dodge sliding ever since i set keybinds so that its easy to do, spam it non-stop

drifting moss
hollow mantle
# naive star Ok makes sense, oh well, ill go test it out and see what id like to change after...

you probably like the nades a lot, but if you dropped disdain, good balance, and duelist and went right path while keeping anoint and purge the unclean you could get a lot of good stuff for it on that build. Thats what I do anyway. Duelist is overkill a lot of the time, and with second wind and enduring faith you get a ton of extra survivability. enduring faith wont proc super often, but it will proc when you use fury which allows you to get a lot of mileage out of the situations when you need it the most

drifting moss
#

(hope nobody minds me posting all these clips im desperately trying to work out this bit crunch whilst also being small enough filesize to send over discord)

hollow mantle
#

fury when toughness is broken, get half back and the extra dr

naive star
#

Actually, i havent really played with fire nades

#

Why i wanted to add em in

void bison
drifting moss
#

Does anybody know if bosses have the equivalent of, like, threat for anyone other than ogryn? Trying to find a way to force rinda karnak to focus me so she doesnt naruto run halfway across the arena

vocal pulsar
ember yew
#

or be the first to engage with the boss

#

then you will take aggro first

coarse birch
#

I think rinda might just swap targets a lot, if your a bit closer together itll at least be less annoying to follow

royal vortex
#

is phase 2 rinda when everyone is spread across the room

#

SHE FUCKING PINGPONGS

#

EVERYWHERE

tropic harbor
#

At risk of being an old man, I'm still amazed how the D tier weapons are good now

#

Revolver made knife/revolver zealots 50% better

coarse birch
#

Yeah she kinda just flies all over thr place

royal vortex
#

when i do the lil speech to tell ppl how to win i have to include

#

"when rodin dies u all stick together because otherwise u will have the worst anime bullshit fight in darktide ever"

ember yew
#

at least put them on 20 sec CD or something

fleet zealot
#

she got them toot powered dashes

ember yew
#

not like 4-5 seconds

fleet zealot
#

should be 4-5 seconds on hardmode

coarse birch
#

Damn everyone is back to having a normal name

#

Guess stans been slacking

royal vortex
#

after his last rampage he's been cooling down

coarse birch
#

Yeah he did go a little hard

drifting moss
void bison
vocal pulsar
#

wb yog

frosty herald
#

They are the most fun part of ronda

ember yew
#

to me it felt stupid and a waste of time

#

never going back there again after finishing it

naive star
#

I guess reload speed to Flak?

spare dome
#

negative, switch unyielding to another reload speed

proud kraken
#

i tried :(

fair igloo
frosty herald
#

Sadly not

#

She bolts everywhere

fair igloo
#

Ohh does it not affect her agro?

frosty herald
#

And you wont keep agro cause she changes targets every 10 seconds

fair igloo
#

The taunted effect doesn't stop her from switching agro?

frosty herald
#

Honestly dunno

fleet zealot
#

should i get icecream ordered for the superbowl

fading vale
#

only if it's vanilla

#

the best ice cream flavor

fleet zealot
#

i got them hormones

#

it's gonna be terribly bad

visual stream
sour oxide
#

😄

ripe quest
#

Fuel that builds on kill/elite kill, use the special to toggle fuel consumption and buff the weapon.

visual stream
#

khornate chainsword

#

Could be cool mechanic tho

maiden path
#

beast of unholy nature

visual stream
#

Maybe on the weaker side of horde management with good single target so you don't need to rev attack the squishier elites

visual stream
#

Freakish creature

shy river
#

the beast is demonic in nature

naive star
#

This Martyr Rashad thing is my new jam, only thing i miss from knife is obviously the mobility

void bison
naive star
#

Dropped Stun resistance for the upper right side Second Wind and crits and all

#

Melee Crit rate 10% in last mission, so those arent doing much in this though

ripe quest
visual stream
#

I've been meaning to try it

naive star
#

Does Martyrs Purpose work also on dmg taken to toughness?

fading vale
#

no

naive star
#

Rashad's special attack any useful?

fleet zealot
#

god im stupid today

#

no the rashad special isnt' that useful, the push attack is a better quick stagger option

naive star
#

Ok thanks

fair igloo
#

I just pulled off the most intense clutch of my life but i didn't have obs open and the scoreboard didn't even have impressive results 😭

naive star
#

I like the Geforce Experience's save last 6min thing for those

fair igloo
#

i use obs' replay buffer
but i can't believe i forgot to open it

south folio
#

there's no video evidence so i don't believe you

#

i usually remember to open OBS but i get a bug where it doesn't record audio sometimes

naive star
#

Missing Thy Wrath Be Swift got me couple times staggered by gunners and in big trouble

fair igloo
#

By the time I got to my team I went through 3 hordes and a plogryn and I had 0 stims 0 ammo and 0 grenades with like 20 hp left after proccing the 2nd life 😭

naive star
#

Its kinda too good talent to skip with Zealot

fair igloo
#

and i didn't get a SINGLE clip of it i'm so UGH

obtuse stirrup
#

But yeah, usually 4 points well spent

fair igloo
#

i don't use thy wrath be swift cuz i just rely on either my gun or the charge iframes to get to gunners

#

but my build is also probably really stupid

obtuse stirrup
#

Fury of the Faithful does make it less essential

#

And shroud too probably

#

Especially when you consider how often you can Fury spam

naive star
#

I got no ability recharge cooldowns in this Caxe Martyr build

#

Why i asked about the Martyr talent earlier

obtuse stirrup
#

I think it stops you from getting staggered out of heavies too right?

#

I jump in and out of chat lol, didn't scroll back

#

It definitely made me better once I took it

#

Most important thing on Zealot is that you can't have a break in the violence

spare talon
#

Just saw someone recommend perfect strike on the evis
Can you guess where

obtuse stirrup
#

/r/clownshit?

spare talon
#

Reddit, yes

naive star
#

Tanner Lindberg just said Martyrdom is worst in the game while Momentum amazing 🤷‍♂️

obtuse stirrup
#

Tbf this discord has some crazy takes sometimes