#zealot-class
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simpler times
genuinly, i want a kill team that hunts us down
now all i fear is the barrel next to me and my three teammates behind me
they need to differentiate stalkers from shooters more meaningfully
all 3 teamates are josho
i'm itching for an enemy type that's more than an elite and less than a boss
but the only dreg shooter types are stalkers rn which makes it a lil weird
pre nerf mutant
like ppl knew they existed almost purely because scab stalkers werent highlighted by counterfire for the longest time
make mutants annoying to take down again
i am INNOCENT
(nowadays)
i blow myself up more than my teammates
josho still bursters people
gotta time it better and rocket jump the gap
i thought you were gonna get helldivers josho
i am going to
when
before the heath death of my house
who is heath
heath death
omg hi stan
josho has been too close to s tan
NO
s tan
what
heath bar blizzard kinda slaps tho
I just had a fuzzy moment with three other zealots, 4 man zealot damnation run, whoever you are, that's right, we don't leave our brethren and sistren behind.
300 in tha s tore
sistren
It's totally a word, I didn't think so but it is.
that's cool
i like learning new words
thanks
🙂
how did rogue trader have the old windows bug
warp fuckery is about
phreenology
foolish
I've never heard it but somebody came in hear saying sistren and apologizing for being cringe
you truly are my white savior
its the same person
It was me
ah
I googled it and realized..."somebody already trademarked it, damn"
because its a very interestingly coded game that sometimes still pops up cyrillic in the combat log for no reason
apparently it originates in middle English
too much warp factor
Yea it was pretty cool @fading vale
Realized after my bottle of mead that maybe it was cringe and I was like "dammit that was not the intention."
its fucked up my friend fell out of the source skybox in our rogue trader run
after my bottle of mead
what era are you from
states. CO
didn't realize Colorado was an era
lmao
Nah CO has some good meaderies around here and I picked up a bottle. Once you open the bottle though, it goes bad pretty fast.
Nobody wanted to share so I decided to drink it.
just had a helldivers game with 0 friendly fire damage, what is this madness
I suppose Colorado would be a location for being like mead is back and cool
Nah I think it could be good anywhere as long as you've got a decent bee farm.
isn't mead the thing medieval serfs would drink at ye tavern
I think there are some here that are made with vegetables though
Probably
I think mead is....traditionally a celtic drink.
what about the mead from kingcobrajfs
it's a horrifying YouTube channel with cooking and mead
makes like, "bacon and chocolate" mead
and it's atrocious
seems like the average NA cooking channel to me
I bet stan could make a living off of a cooking channel
there are 2 criteria for success
either you can cook really well and make good content or
your cooking is so terrible and you are overconfident that it's funny
I know one with a single mom unironically cooking stuff like spaghetti's in coke
MAYONNAISE
is this Kay
She's French
It's good for you
Mayonnaise is a sin
Surprised cobra hasnt gotten food poisoning
I agree for the most part, as an ingredient it's fine but like
excess pure unadulterated mayo
is gross as fuck
just like Ketchup
you have to be 10 or under to eat that I'm sorry
It's just horrible
Real
well and scrambled eggs depending
and maybe grilled cheese if I don't have tomato soup
and then I went to Germany and they just dip shit in mayo
look's like some ppl don't like zealot lol, I was playing with 2 Ogryn and 1 Psyker and this happen:
at one point they told me not to play alone when I'd just tried to break through with a dash to kill the elites/gunners, a few minutes later they told me not to do the objectiv when I'd literally done 80% of the objectives in the solo game, at one point I went to get all the objectives while they were farming
It do be like that, u can combine it with sriracha and its actually quite ok
wouldn't eat mayo on its own tho
Out of curiosity I once tried dipping fries in mayo and it was a revelation. Shit made me start buying fancy mayo
Fries gotta be hot, crunchy, and seasoned to be right tho
definitely
Mayo / Dijon / hot sauce mix on an egg sandwich is nice too
Some people think that Zealots are all soloers
And that any kind of pace at all is speedrunning
Because they want to stop and shoot every single Groaner individually with their rumbler before they can leave the room
Ofc they'll need to find every ammo pack on the map if they're doing that too
Yanna is not on discord anymore?
gotta merit the rations sah
I am german
I hate mayo
well
germans are quite white
I mean you can't be that surprised
the game does a really bad job at telling slowpokes that they are griefing their team because they'll end up killing masses of pointless trash while slowing everything down and making it more likely disablers will get a lucky pick on someone
so ppl look at a 'speedrunner' (guy pressing w) when they're sat 300 miles behind where they should be in a mission and think they're the problem
team REFUSED to scan at warren end event
gendry with the hard hitting FACTS.
I like killing masses of enemies
what if u were told that u can kill masses of enemies without taking an entire hour per mission
its 9 am why would i be 🙂
prime eepy time
wrong

i downloaded that mod because i was making a dumb shitpost bleed build for vet
and i was trying to get over 70k bleed damage
sentence could have stopped here
your parents couldve stopped before you were born but here we are
ur destiny is to fight the dark reflection of urself (sleep deprivation hallucination) in the cursed grotto (grimy alleyway) upon dagobah (South Carolina)
why a grimy alleyway
do you have alleyways that aren't grimy
plenty
why do you have experience of the non-grimy alleyways
are ur alleyways grimy
u get what u deserve
Did a hab dumbo in less than 20 minutes, that was nice with people actually doing the objectives at the end
Pretty much, yeah. On a chastise build to get that extra damage
Overpressure is bugged and doesn't affect DOT dmg
I've been playing a lot of Tom Clancy's The Division 2, lately, and I have 1 thing to say about it: I fucking wish there was a way I could use a melee weapon besides just pimp slapping a nearby enemy... :/
I want more melee combat, like Darktide... At least I knew that was not part of the game before I got it >.>'
That’s a heretical sentence
The ranged combat is less satisfying than Darktide's, imo, as well... which is kinda sad since it is first a 3rd person shooter game :/
I do like the fact I can get sniper rifles and stuff, tho... :\


I agree, yog. I haven't seen you in ages, Yog, how are you doing?
holy shit yog is back


i got a job as an intergalactic exterminator
Here, Yog, take this smg. It is much better in your capable hands, than my hapless ones.

i may buy division 2 someday
erm there's a better picture
I only got it because my friend is a massive fan of the game, and I wanted to learn what about this game tickles his fancy
So far it is a lot better than I thought it was going to be
Granted... I haven't gotten to the super extra grindy part of the game, yet... aka the end game >.>'
Aka: The part of games like mmorpgs that lose me due to my adhd hating grinding things in games... x.x
if you have fun all the way through and got it on a deep sale then the endgame isnt that important

pls dont put frog in microwave
HOYL SHIT YOUR BACK
which perks you guys suggest?
mobility. low cleave targets is fine
oh i should probably change my name back now
thunderous to slaught, or headtaker,
probably change off specialists
does bosses count as maniac?
unyielding
maniacs should be good right
unecessary
just like you

malding
well i can only change thunder and specialist
not really but spec isn't good at all
maniac will help with activated light taps vs dreg ragers
once your power blessing is ramped up
it is a good omen yog returns, that means the next patch has plague toads
/j
darcy will come back next
josho go to sleep
nah too risky sequels are almost always disappointing
no
Well... it was only a matter of time before someone said it. >.>'

greetings yog 
Yog?
Yooooooggers
Please no. Darcy was a menace
Conan exiles, yogg?
the new helldivers exp is the pubs blowing themselves up for all of your reinforcements
so when stuff actually gets difficult
you have no reinforcements
guy walks into a base
guy calls in eagle on himself
guy spams 'request reinforce' button
God no id sooner die than let darcy back in
he was trying to be a hero
duster
I believe that everyone should have the opportunity to be a hero, especially people who aren't me, so go stand under the bile titan and hold this 500kg bomb marker
dust the room with him
Virus bombing the emperor's children warband
the eagle strategems do kick ass
i wonder how many months im gonna have to wait for most of the G*mers to filter out of their official Discord
u have a very cute dog
You mean twitter drivel?
yea pretty well
People using the term are usualy worse than the "g*mers"
Gaymers?
Gaymers are rarely G*mers but I suppose there could be overlap
I am confusion
El gato
i see many gatos
What Rodin sees as I use Chastise to dash at him with a chainaxe
So random idea
Playing Vermintide 2 for the first time recently.
How balanced or good would it be for Zealot to have an ability like Slayer. Where you get two different melee weapons
Ranged is pretty important.
This game is way more shooter focused
You would have to rely on your teammates being smart enough to kill ranged units
funnily enough though, veteran does have that ability
So I'd say balanced in the sense that it wouldn't be unbalanced lol
since the hellbore I and II are both great melee weapons
but nobody completely sacrifices their gun
you can have a versatile melee weapon instead if you like
I never tried to complete the 'fire no bullets in a round' achievement intentionally
but i did get it after 2500hrs
So in 2500hrs there was a single occasion where my ranged weapon choice was irrelevant
Tbh. Sometimes I forget I have a gun
do you run throwing knives or something?
That's the only way I can imagine completely sidelining your gun
Sometimes. I usually run stun grenade
(not asking it as a perjorative btw, throwing knives are friggin awesome)
(love them, it's like the revolver if the revolver took any amount of skill)
I like chastise though so
If I feel remotely threatened at range I usually just close that asap
But yah I’ve been using knives recently and they’re my “oh shit” button
Holy shit yog is back
i can smell burning toast
Immsorru for your loas
josho do you own helldivers 2
am i the one having a stroke or you
do u hate me or do you wanna game when you do
Hangover is making typing fast hard
somehow u are still doing better than stan
helldivers 2 is the most cinematic multiplayer experience ive had for some time now
It's so fun
I would maybe get helldivers 2 if it didnt have the intrusive anticheat
the lowest bar
I need it so bad
my fella do be drippin
hd2 while crossfaded is an experience to say
i havent tried it yet
ive been stuck with delta 9 edibles until i got a new cartridge yesterday
I have way to many clips of this game already
LF Help with shocking Stuff penance
Do any weapons in this game at all use Haymaker well?
Or is it just a “haha funny instalill sometimes” thing
I dont think there is any weapons that can use it well ( i could be wrong )
How is this then?
teefies
some of the clubs cause they can hit a wide area
pretty doo doo
probably totally useable knife
basically bricked cause you put on flak before fully upgrading
i just think the mk6 suuuuucks
yeah haymaker is good on the MK1, MK2 clubs
i put haymaker on my eviscerator
evis has haymaker?
i am lying
if u have faith anything can be true
just believe
i might try to get a good Mk1 club
to try haymaker
that or a mk2
i assume the diff is moveset?
good luck with that, may the emperor bless u with rng
the order of heavies is swapped
the mk2 also gets a special slap followup light but they nerfed it into uselessness for some god awful reason
was that the funny one that stunlocked bosses? or am I thinking of the BBs special
the club slaps all stunlock bosses atm
wicked
Didn’t the one shovel stunlock a Chaos Spawn at one point?
it used to do it super consistently
now u have to do some ult stagger shenanigants with taunt or bullrush to get it set up
I've been digging helldivers. they're in the middle of fixing their servers after all the strain brok the system, but that's most multiplayer matchmaking games the first few days after release. I like having it and darktide available to me. they're good to bounce back and forth between. I don't get burned out on either
i'll surely enjoy hd2 when it stops fucking crashing
the nivida conspiracy
and to get straight up visceral melee out of my system after a bunch of run and gun on heldivers, I broke the zealot out of deep freeze; trying out lvl 5 difficulty games and need my Zarona tooled out. What's the thoughts on blessings these days? surgical, and... hand cannon? the others seem geared around being most of the way through the mag, which I usually am not doing.
yeah its still surg HC for revolver
why is the slap noise so soft sounding
sounds like a pat on the head
skin to skin contact
I've started getting a lot of cat shorts and honestly it's great
ytshorts are the best and worse thing in the world
yeah sometimes I get really weird shit

true, let the bro give and vibe
Autocorrect sabotaging me afain
Holy shit the animation is hilarious
are you back to kronk hours
no these are just old clips
heresy
surely this means we need to buff their HP again
think the chaos spawn's more staggerable right?
yes we can solve all problems by changing HP values surely
so that you can actually stunlock fully now
second hand information, haven't seen it myself
if u have an ability that staggers 1 it'll stagger all of them pmuch
God I really want that goofy gunplaugegryn
cspawns have less building resistance or something?
void will stun anything on weakspot hits
thammer charged heavy staggers bosses rite
no
no
bruh
i think so which matters for some stuff like grenades iirc
but not for weapons like void or slaps
lol
it would make alot more sense for thammer to stagger
The Hand

TRUE
chainstunning bosses just needs to go
give bosses a stagger meter
it's not the impact of the ogryn slap that causes the stagger
yup
it's the disrespect
hell if you don't have enough power up it doesn't stagger attacking crushers, that or it was a bug when it happened to me
u should never have options that make an enemy type completely nonexistent
just make the boss more resistant to being staggered when you hit the breakpoint
Nah I'm gonna slap this daemonhost off the cliff cuz it's funny
this already happens the reset time on it is just short
too short
they just made a few things do stupid stagger values to them
u shouldnt be staggering bosses for 0 resource cost ever
so void and slaps need to be tuned down because staggering a boss with them is free
say the boss needs 1k stance damage to be staggered and the thammer does 1k
the next time you want it to stagger its 2k
darktide already has a stagger system that works idk why u would do that
and caps out at 3k stance
bosses have an enrage bar
some attacks 100% look like they need to stagger
does rumbler still perma stun CS
i dont think so anymore
they nerfed the explosion damage and i think stagger to unyielding enemies
they should let the daemonhost merge with the other monstrosities
i miss when it did
Megazord monstrosity
i played gumbler a couple times with laz and he was not happy
god it's so fucking obnoxious
i dont blame laz
glugger is an abomination
gunlugger is legitimately the most degenerate intended playstyle i think fs has
because ogryn has a plethora of guns that are mid unless ur in gunlugger ult
i think that goes for skullbreaker aswell
can't see anything half the game, everything getting thrown around, monstrosities get knocked out of my range, all the ammo is instantly vacuumed
just gotta remember the ogryn shell is always good for melee anyway
intended 90% dr and stupid high dmg heavies with bleed
even without any melee boosts
true
but gunlugger will also vacuum ammo up very quickly especially if u dont have good trigger discipline
see my previous message
we could just pull a ***** and blame the playtesters
ngl if i had my way thered be a full ogryn rework
you can have zero melee boosts and you still want to melee the horde
dude
i love the class
i hate everything about it
buuut its in players hands now and they like it so the best we can do is adjustments
the vibes are so cool
but none of it makes any fucking sense and a bunch of the weapons are designed around not actually interacting with key mechanics like
aiming
the vibes are cool but the numbers are unhinged and coop unfriendly
maybe darktide 3.0 in 8 months
i have never used a stubber and thought i was doing more than an iag/brauto
they fucking better
crack
ngl i think the biggest thing i want is a big revamp to enemies at this point
haven't said anything in 2 months
give us assassin rat equivelants in darktide
inb4 it's just more reskins of outfits we have already
my guess is busy with versus (which is cringe)
i feel like if they made ogryn baseline better-feeling to play u could tune these numbers down w/o any real backlash
cosmetics are unrelated to their dev pipeline
I vote make crab the balance and combat design lead
crab suggested giving ogryns the ability to dodge through trash so that u can get rid of some of the insane passive defense they get
that man is a saint
wait
you mean just dodging sideways and bonking enemies away
working with on the crusher rework was so fun
yea
because u still feel like a big imposing motherfucker but it's not like
yeah I heard he was pretty involved in the new crusher or something
ogryn is having themselves a super mosh while everyone else is playing darktide
"i sit here and tank an infinite number of sniper shots so long as they are spread out long enough to let me heavy twice"
toughness bad tho
i dont think any of the melees in this game feel as good to play as crusher
thanks 🙏
Crusher is actually OP I think
always feels good knowing it landed right
i didnt realize for a while that Ogryn still has their old DR passive
it cuts down hordes like a blade
i thought that got rolled into FNP
and it kills elites like a hammer
oh ye no i think it needs a stagger nerf
but he has both and thats just
so its less free
hilarious
I do think crusher is a bit OP yeah
drop the damage a little imo
but other then taht its in a good spot
It's by far the strongest my zealot has ever felt
being able to spam activated attacks on crusher is a lil degenerate
it's a tad too far into the "i just shut enemies down" thing but also u have stuff like trauma staff
it can do everything well plus things that other weapons can't
crusher feels like a quarterstaff
like melee a ton of elites and what not
ye the AoE could do with a little reduction again
infact i think originally we wanted it entirely gone from the light
were you the one that suggested an icd josho
so the light just got cleave n dmg instead of a blast
i suggested to crab they should just give the activation a cooldown and he said that was dumb and he wanted to remove the aoe on light and make the heavy staged
so you have to charge it to get the full impact
yeah but it's huge(infinite?) cleave and tons of stagger still
ye like i said the stagger needs bonkin
i think part of it is you always take a stagger talent
its way too free to heavy attack across a hoard and blast a crusher 5m away
I understand the reasoning behind icd but
which makes the weapon weird
I think that's too limiting for the player probably
ye, although i do like how the stagger talents interact with the weapon for scalling how many maulers u can stumble n stuff
we just gotta fiddle some stuff here n there still tho
yea they just have to do something
and it would be better as some kind of like, power meter
a cooldown was just me throwing ideas at the wall because the base idea is u have to stop ppl from spamming activations
Lies of p is peak would use the booster handle for another playthrough
i think if we had our way the special would be moved to a staged heavy instead
so you have to charge up the heavy to get the power
give it a weak baseline activation and then a power meter you can build by smacking things
Thats call d thrust talent lol
a charge meter COULD be cool but i can see some complaints about it being another thing to manage
boo hoo
crusher is kinda pushing the complexity limit though yea
This song is originally based on the soundtrack of The Lord Inquisitor - Prologue. Composed by Adam Harvey for the CGI short movie The Lord Inquisitor, set in the universe of Warhammer 40k, created and Directed by Erasmus Brosdau.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZc6cr6G2E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czpve_uNiLM
This is my tribute for a ...
yeah but why do you not listen to this while playing
i hope when (if) they come out with crusher variants they do equally cool stuff for the moveset/activations
i want one with a stab heavy
truuuuu
that if u kill a guy with using an activation it sends him FLYING backwards and staggers the guys he hits
tbh tho prob just do minor touches on crusher to bring it in line for now
yeah
i wanna fix paul
I don't know how to make ogryn melee more interesting
dude paul has moves with minimum cleave damage in the single digits
every time I have watched josho melee on ogryn it's just the most braindead spam
i have some ideas, we'll see what happens tho
ye thats what i wanna avoid
i genuinely wonder what u do with the paul because the moveset is like
gross
the l1 l2 is nice
plan to approach it like crusher if i can and make each attack do something
Every weapon in the game is braindead compared to vt2 though
give the nutshot finesse damage and a combo for chaining the activation into it
yea but paul unfortunately has more moves than that
and l3/l4 does pmuch the same thing as the heavies
there's also some really degenerate stuff here where doing a heavy into a light gives you a separate light attack that has an identical animation to the l3
for some fucking reason
same damage breakdown too
heresy
Going through the entire map with bret longsword heavies
yeah tbh all I heard about VT2 melee is spam weapons
thats like the main thing idk what to do with
Flail and shield
Tbh all tide weapons are spam, people acting otherwise are fooling themselves lol
crucis gang
i want to say you make the heavies more about stagger and l3/l4 for actual horde damage but it's a bm weapon and ogryn just boosts the fuck out of heavy attacks anyways
the main thing lights wise is def making the l1-2 single target, and if the heavies end up the anti horde thats still more variety than most ogryn weapons 
ok well let's assume BM gets nuked from orbit 
true
they should make the push attack a jab
so you can have like the opposite of an obscurus combo
i wanna give paul finesse
Unleash the datamined power surge lol
and it's stab -> strikedown -> uppercut vs obscurus strikedown -> uppercut -> stab
2 explosions on hit
🙏
what will crusher 2 and 3 be like I wonder
wait is the nutshot l1 or l2
if its hitbox is too big and makes that easy just make hitbox smoll
i cant remember
L2
l2
damn
L1 is overhead
ogryn also towers over most enemies so its kinda hard to miss the head a lot of the time
this is the bad part about shield having headshot prio is it completely fucks up your mauler damage
(especially because my ogryn is max height)
pre patch ogryn be like: bet
lmfao
but tbf like
is it ever hard to miss heads with melee
if u have a shitty uppercut like the obscurus does
I mean sometimes you don't want to hit heads, aka when maulers are present
is that a crab clip or do you just have the same naming sense for clips
the latter
i have no fucking clue what most of my clips are about until i watch them
this is one of the few i remember by name
my favorite part about the headshot stuff is that shovel has a stagger BP for thrust 3 + the impact passive and a headshot
vs ragers
any gud on zealot? 😄
ogryn is too boring for crab to have clips
truuuuu
so you had to actually fucking STRUGGLE with this stuff if u wanted to fight ragers successfully in melee
it was cursed
it's decent, not the best rolls overall but you could do BM over shred and flak over crit
a significant portion of them (1) was made because i said i like the grenade gauntlet and he wanted to prove i was WRONG with a rending rumbler
or meme with a crit caxe I guess
dramatisation of trying to make u go to bed at a reasonable time
unironically one of the most fun ogryn experiences was probs p13 grenade gauntlet
because the punches would nuke all those pre elite hp buff enemies
Friend's Eviscerator. Pretty fucking great. He plans on kleeping the Unyielding damage. Any recommendations?
dude you can grief yourself with the punch
because there's no stickiness
you can just drag the camera away from the enemy and the epicenter follows
Perfect strike into anything else lol
perfect strike to rampage and infested to flak
I just got to level 11 and have an eviscerator. I've chosen my entire personality for the remainder of Darktide
Perfect strike should just be deleted off evi, the anti synergy it has with mk2 is laughable
thx 
I dont think theres any weapon that wants perfect strike lol
perfect strike isn't actually throwing if you go shred and full crit
i used to go evis BUT then da emperah drop an awesome chain axe on me, so I switched 😊
Grenade gauntlet punch is the most fun thing ever
cause pstrike is actually 0.25x hitmass and ignore carapace stoppage
I guess you just run chorus then
but it's not good obviously
Pstrike fucks with revved strikes though
Perfect, ty!!
no
Yea, mk2 rev just goes straight through crusher off chastise lol
Unless they fixed it
This is their braced autogun. Any suggestions?
that hasn't been a thing since a long time ago afaik
I could be mistaken if it's specifically crushers, but then it would also be maulers
stripped down and crit chance off imo
get fire frenzy or death spitter+ flak or maniac
carapce sucks but it gives something when chastising crushers down
try to get a new one with flak maniac deathspitter fire frenzy
Ok, will let 'em know.
it's usable with the above suggestion though
agri brauto isn't a weapon that requires stuff
Just requires the dodge talent that reduces spread
you know who else isn't a weapon that requires stuff
Then again, you could just rely on someone else to kill snipers at distance in a timely fashion
Ty!!
ItS a TeAM GaMe
there aren't that many sniper spawns that are out of range of an agri brauto
crouch tap fire is surprisingly reliable
@fading vale which one is better?
like how importnat even is collateral
on this weapon?
left but really no difference
Sort of important since theres a breakpoint to open up bulwarks from stagger
what is the minimum
required?
Not sure what the number is, just check in psykanium
But i think its above 60
If its too low it takes multiple shots to stagger bulwark
If it drops shield in 1 shot ur good
is the L3 on the Taxe VII really unreliable for anyone else? It seems crazy short range or just like it wants to register 50% of the time in my testing
I think it's around 50
if you have too much attack speed this can happen
and 7 is buggy
I just noticed that. It animation cancels
if you let it full swing it always hits
what fucking trash
also the range on the diagonal is a bit shorter
and the hitbox is pretty specific
but yeah don't use the 7
its the L2, I was noting it wrong before. Left to right down up diagonal
idk if it happens with the 4
you can cancel it if you are just spamming attacks
because I cant get any closer to targets and it will just not register if attacking quickly but if I let it just go then it will always hit
lame
I had a 378 that I upgraded for shits and giggles and it rolled good stuff
too bad its on trash
4 also has unfortunate jank on occasion
sometimes you get stuck in a heavy attack pose
your arms just broken in the air
ive noticed that with the combat axes too
and the special attack chain also breaks occasionally and locks you out of other inputs for a fraction of a second
2 and 5
i think of them more as gasses
they are clearly a plasma
big if true
Is there a breakdown anywhere of how significant an extra percent of dodge distance is?
blessings how to open to bless again?
gesundheit
Yaknow when I'm blessing farming, is it better to upgrade all the way to legendary for the blessing you need or should I just upgrade to blues
I am pretty sure its better to just upgrade to blues
blues
legendary I'm sure doesn't affect the chance of getting a tier 4 blessing but really idk
I guess Thunderous isnt necessary for this?
I think its off of base modifier but I am not sure its ever been confirmed
perk/blessing rating scales off tier
that is, you can get the fourth one from a blue weapon?
shitty 200 base mod weapons will very often roll t2s
teef
Glad to have my gut feeling confirmed at least then.
Oh I guess not
Guess it just got deconfirmed
This game hurts my head
around the 350+ rating is when you get p good chances of t4
Brutal and Headtaker BiS for Caxe?

I have tried thunderous a lot with them and its never shown to be impactful really. Headtaker on the otherhand is huge
but really you can also just say that it scales off level, because your item rating range is based off your level and then the item rating determines your blessing rarity chances
brutal and headtaker is meta
headtaker
Thunderous to headtaker and flakiac and its golden
Flak in place of Carapace?
Well so the fact that your going from purple to legendary has no real affect on the chance for which tier blessing you get?
Just the items rating?
i know the item rating does. some fs people have stated that you have a higher chance of t4 at gold but i can't say with any certainty that's true
weapons with high stats can only be obtained from the emperor? legendary quality
they also probably fuck with the RNG sometimes server side. way back there was a patch that made t4s significantly more common (at least from what ppl were saying)
Any source
Done, what kind of build suits Caxe best?
no, very often emperor's gifts will be shit. you're better off checking the docket shops/melk
Momentum or Piety/Crit?
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Momentum or martyrdom
k
Both of brunt's shops, melk, Emperor gifts. Even mystery melk ( but don't bother with that)
I have a gut feeling its true but also I dont think its worth the plasteel to make that your method of blessing hunting. We just dont have hard numbers for it
Caxe doesnt really synergize that well with crit builds
you have a much higher chance to get a T4 blessing on purple-> gold than green->blue
Usually brunt's main shop is best for curios, greens and greys though
Well I'm glad I don't have to roll for a new combat knife anytime soon at least then.
Funnily enough, fell in love with Rashad 1h ago when finished Psyker's melee weekly
tryin for revolvers tho ...
i dont have proof but a lot of anecdotal evidence for it at least
Brutal Momentum made it so that you just hit any non-elite mob in the head and 3 of its buddies also lost heads
Brunt's blues tend to be polluted with bad blessings
welcome to my world

My veteran hates it
Cannot get a rashad to Cleave consistently
Because veteran needs perfect stats for it to work on them
yeah with martyrdom you can hit some stupid breakpoints to one tap almost everything
Hate new bromentum. Too binary.
Guess ill go martyrdom with this then, never liked martyrdom but this might be reason enough
momentum gets you a crazy amount of mobility though with the unlisted dodge distance and dodge reset buffs
judgment even better for rashad
How you deal with Crushers with Caxe? Switch to Boltgun?
heavies
hit da head
fury heavy chunks them pretty good
Headshot heavies stagger them
and then heavies will finish them off
Can juggle heavies on a crowd of 4 reliably to cc them all
So i guess ranged option is just matter of preference then
yeah when you are running caxe for sure
its universal enough that you can take whatever really
Only thing annoying to deal with on caxe is mass bulwarks
im throwing fire nades against that, then just dance till they die
Can proc it on a horde, just get hit and start swinging
it used to be 75% right? before they changed it?
That or thammer a boss with a crit at the right moment
Was still easy in the past, you restored to full on thunderhammer charged hit lol
Full heal revenant was a treat lol
yes
while also not hard
there were basically two choices: combat axe and heavy sword
you could cheese it with thammer on a poxwalker but that's boring
Been whiffing trapper dodges so much it's nice to finally get back to actually not winding up in a net that kills me 
(oh my god i am still wrangling with OBS to not crunch the bitrate any time something moves)
Nice!
yeah but can u do the twist and turn imploder mega blow up move
I know sliding on dodges extends the range a bit but does it actually help in avoiding melee hits that much? I noticed recently it actually uses an extra effective dodge when you put a slide onto it
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b500f36-0f49-40b2-a596-5f89e1a261b0/rashad-martyr Looks workable for my first try with Rashad Martyr?
On normal enemies yes, crushers and maulers can track you really good on their overhead swings so it's better to time it than to just rely on a slide
Id like to get Bleed for Emperor and Second Wind for survivability, but dunno where to cut those talents from
no extra toughness talents will probs be a bit of a pain point
i would probably drop good balance for EWEW if nothing else but that comes down to personal preference
Something I've noticed is that uhhh
Extra toughness doesn't seem to actually do anything for melee
seems like everything has much tighter tracking in darktide. crusher overheads it seems you just have to dodge right at the end and then its really reliable
maybe the slide just extends that time where it will break tracking? or it triggers an extra instance of a dodge to do it
Ill try to sneak in +5% toughness on all 3 curios
me dumb i meant toughness regen
My wound curios are still work in progress, gotta go farm some plaststeel
i p much always take vicious offering or second wind depending on weapon
vicious offering isnt great on rashad and second wind takes a lot of points on a marty build so its kinda pain
if you want to get second wind then probably just need to full commit down that path. Also while it will hit multiple enemies on headshot kill disdain wont be netting you much
so thats an easy cut
Yeah Disdain was my last placement as didnt know where to put that one
Also sometimes slides just aren't great for your positioning, like if you're fighting a boss you can wind up too far away to hit them
kind of seems like it slows you down just a bit too. I have just never worked slides much into my melee. Avoiding ranged attacks they seem key, but otherwise I just notice I am taking chip damage anyway with them. But I am also not super great at their rhythm in melee. Feels like it fucks up my headshots too
that's when muscle memory comes in
ytou just
I see people doing slide tech all match long and watching their POV gives me a headache
Would Punishment be useful to stagger elites?
you dont hit 3 enemies at a time too often and you are probably staggering them anyway. it will only proc in dense horde. Its a lot easier to have up with a weapon with more natural cleave I think
Or Grievous Wounds?
Ok makes sense, oh well, ill go test it out and see what id like to change afterwards
I have terminal 7 slide spam disease because it looks funny 
I look like an idiot constantly crouching and dodge sliding ever since i set keybinds so that its easy to do, spam it non-stop
you probably like the nades a lot, but if you dropped disdain, good balance, and duelist and went right path while keeping anoint and purge the unclean you could get a lot of good stuff for it on that build. Thats what I do anyway. Duelist is overkill a lot of the time, and with second wind and enduring faith you get a ton of extra survivability. enduring faith wont proc super often, but it will proc when you use fury which allows you to get a lot of mileage out of the situations when you need it the most
(hope nobody minds me posting all these clips im desperately trying to work out this bit crunch whilst also being small enough filesize to send over discord)
fury when toughness is broken, get half back and the extra dr

Does anybody know if bosses have the equivalent of, like, threat for anyone other than ogryn? Trying to find a way to force rinda karnak to focus me so she doesnt naruto run halfway across the arena
most of the time, if you want to draw boss aggro, you gotta do big damage to them/damage them frequently
I think rinda might just swap targets a lot, if your a bit closer together itll at least be less annoying to follow
the worst bossfight thing ive seen besides getting thrown out of bounds
is phase 2 rinda when everyone is spread across the room
SHE FUCKING PINGPONGS
EVERYWHERE
At risk of being an old man, I'm still amazed how the D tier weapons are good now
Revolver made knife/revolver zealots 50% better
Yeah she kinda just flies all over thr place
when i do the lil speech to tell ppl how to win i have to include
"when rodin dies u all stick together because otherwise u will have the worst anime bullshit fight in darktide ever"
these dashes are stupid indeed
at least put them on 20 sec CD or something
she got them toot powered dashes
not like 4-5 seconds
should be 4-5 seconds on hardmode
after his last rampage he's been cooling down
Yeah he did go a little hard
on one hand its a massive skill issue to not be in coherence especially when they routinely summon ragers and maulers
wb yog
Do not give the dashes a cooldown
They are the most fun part of ronda
to me it felt stupid and a waste of time
never going back there again after finishing it
I guess reload speed to Flak?
negative, switch unyielding to another reload speed
i tried :(
and then the shieldgryn with attention seeker blocks her once and all of a sudden everyone else is miraculously free to do whatever they want >:D
Ohh does it not affect her agro?
And you wont keep agro cause she changes targets every 10 seconds
The taunted effect doesn't stop her from switching agro?
Honestly dunno
most def not
i got them hormones
it's gonna be terribly bad
I love undertime slopper
I made a momentum zealot guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3135418740
😄
This is unironically something I want for specifically the Chainsword.
Fuel that builds on kill/elite kill, use the special to toggle fuel consumption and buff the weapon.
Maybe on the weaker side of horde management with good single target so you don't need to rev attack the squishier elites
the beast is demonic in nature
This Martyr Rashad thing is my new jam, only thing i miss from knife is obviously the mobility

Dropped Stun resistance for the upper right side Second Wind and crits and all
Melee Crit rate 10% in last mission, so those arent doing much in this though
Well, rn the overhead lights and the H1/2 on the XIIIg ruin small elites anyway. Chainsword currently overperforms and I think the mechanic will give this performance a unique limit + give an excuse for decent vfx and sfx.
That's the newer chord, yes?
I've been meaning to try it
Does Martyrs Purpose work also on dmg taken to toughness?
no
Rashad's special attack any useful?
god im stupid today
no the rashad special isnt' that useful, the push attack is a better quick stagger option
Ok thanks
I just pulled off the most intense clutch of my life but i didn't have obs open and the scoreboard didn't even have impressive results 😭
I like the Geforce Experience's save last 6min thing for those
i use obs' replay buffer
but i can't believe i forgot to open it
there's no video evidence so i don't believe you
i usually remember to open OBS but i get a bug where it doesn't record audio sometimes
Missing Thy Wrath Be Swift got me couple times staggered by gunners and in big trouble
By the time I got to my team I went through 3 hordes and a plogryn and I had 0 stims 0 ammo and 0 grenades with like 20 hp left after proccing the 2nd life 😭
Its kinda too good talent to skip with Zealot
and i didn't get a SINGLE clip of it i'm so UGH
Can be a 4 point dip though
But yeah, usually 4 points well spent
i don't use thy wrath be swift cuz i just rely on either my gun or the charge iframes to get to gunners
but my build is also probably really stupid
Fury of the Faithful does make it less essential
And shroud too probably
Especially when you consider how often you can Fury spam
I got no ability recharge cooldowns in this Caxe Martyr build
Why i asked about the Martyr talent earlier
I think it stops you from getting staggered out of heavies too right?
I jump in and out of chat lol, didn't scroll back
It definitely made me better once I took it
Most important thing on Zealot is that you can't have a break in the violence
Just saw someone recommend perfect strike on the evis
Can you guess where
/r/clownshit?
Reddit, yes
Tanner Lindberg just said Martyrdom is worst in the game while Momentum amazing 🤷♂️
Tbf this discord has some crazy takes sometimes




