#zealot-class

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spare dome
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you cant really scope it out in advance

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you can try to bait out the gunners on the 2nd floor of the platform

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but they can also just spawn in while you're on the 1st floor

quasi marsh
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that's true

sterile basalt
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The other map that comes to mind is

spare dome
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and then they all start dropping down or running the stairwells

quasi marsh
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drop down seems to trigger more mobs

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or events

spare dome
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and you're suddenly immediately surrounded and fucked

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"ill just rush the gunners on the stairs," thinks the ABSOLUTE FOOL

sterile basalt
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Power matrix middle section before first event

spare dome
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as they trigger a monster spawn

quasi marsh
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but ok fine, i still dont think that's gonna be a + for suppression tho

sterile basalt
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Where u have to get to stairs

quasi marsh
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the whole problem in that situation is they're way too far to shoot

spare dome
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exactly

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suppression doesnt ask for precision

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it has a very generous radius on the enemy

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thats what its for

quasi marsh
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idk

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i have never seen that in practice

sterile basalt
spare dome
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thats cause most people think like you do and always try to kill

quasi marsh
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and 90% of the other times its just annoying

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or slows u down

spare dome
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and thats a bit of a trap

sterile basalt
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Like, if u take a high suppression weapon for that scenario, u can actually stop the shooters

spare dome
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it makes logical sense but it's not always the practical play

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sometimes you do want to just spray and pray

quasi marsh
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also i dont think it means its a good node to take when the number of times its helpful actively outweigh the amount of times its a detriment

sterile basalt
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I’m gonna say smth heretical

spare dome
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like you want to kill gunners because theyre a threat, but they are only a threat when they are firing. suppression stops them from firing and then they have to redeploy

sterile basalt
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Born leader is not bad with gloryhunter plasma

quasi marsh
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lol

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nah

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i actually think its ok too

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but only on that gun

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with that blessing

spare dome
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yea basically

sterile basalt
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Yez

spare dome
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it was fun

quasi marsh
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cause nothing else can take gloryhunter

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or wants to take it (revolver)

spare dome
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revolver

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ye

sterile basalt
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Gloryhunter plasma made it fun

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And that’s incredible

quasi marsh
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plasma fun

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nah i cant agree with that still

sterile basalt
quasi marsh
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medic vet pogryn

sterile basalt
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U take this big gun that one shots things and kill everything

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What is the emperor trying to tell us with this message

calm salmon
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rest in peace shattering impact I guess, but hello GH/PPT whatthefuck_heresy

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but yeah, gloryhunter is an odd blessing. Not on enough guns, and the guns that its on don't want it because just shitting out more damage is always better than a slight defensive buff because they're not as slow or awkward as GG on ogryn

quasi marsh
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let me rephrase, vet weapons that want to take it* KEKW_ogryn

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for the born leader medic vet meme

ember yew
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how taxing is vet talent that gives grenade recharge with ammo box

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possible to run with most builds?

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cuz thats too much gae

quasi marsh
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yes

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possible to run with most builds

fleet fractal
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@sterile basalt number cat is your new name

nimble fiber
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hello fellow leafy person

fleet fractal
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also hello

merry lance
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what should i be looking for on the zarona revolver?

opaque island
subtle kite
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Zarona: Surgical and Hand Cannon

opaque island
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:^)

fleet fractal
merry lance
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lol why, seems decent

subtle kite
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Perks, prolly Maniacs and Flak, or w/e depending on what bps you wanna hit

opaque island
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I just personally dont like revolvers

subtle kite
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Zarona’s just goaded tbh

subtle kite
subtle kite
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So elites are the next target for bps

nimble fiber
subtle kite
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But by that being said, maulers, shotgunners, ragers, gunners you wanna try to hit their bp

merry lance
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fair enough lol also run martyr zealot most of the time so i will have to mess around a bit

subtle kite
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Also if reload speed is too slow for your liking you can put that for one of the perks

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1 bullet at a time is honestly kinda crazy slow

fleet fractal
nimble fiber
fleet fractal
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pap pap pap pap get hydrated get hydrated get hydrated

merry lance
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i have that on currently but i feel like i dont get much use out of it because i played to much VT2 and only pull out my ranged to deal with specials (usually mid hoard) and dont reload until i have a second lol

subtle kite
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I was a VT2 player too

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I was a Krubs hunty with tuskgor spear main

sterile basalt
sterile basalt
nimble fiber
little thicket
# ember yew how taxing is vet talent that gives grenade recharge with ammo box

Highly varies in effectiveness from game to game. Sometimes its an absolute godsend being able to completely clear all corruption and fully heal everyone in the strike team. Other times it doesnt do anything that a normal medkit or ammo crate cant. Due to this its hard to directly rate how well this talent will perform. Generally however its a nice talent to have.

merry lance
subtle kite
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It was hunty that got me through cata FOW

merry lance
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sister makes it really easy as well, granted with the right team comp anything could be easy lol

delicate shadow
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Kruber gang 🤝

opaque island
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loud ass smelly lumberfoots

little thicket
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Witch captain.

little thicket
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Pokey stick go poke poke.

subtle kite
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Can’t do 100k pressing one button all day anymore

distant galleon
merry lance
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and rightfully so lol even after the nerf the the utility she brings the team is insane. free boon of shallya, can CC anything but a boss and gets free temp from the team to continually vent and lift. soooo good and sooo much fun lol

errant mountain
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Hey everyone I have this revolver- what should I do with it?

subtle kite
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Trash it

distant galleon
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shoot heretics

vocal pulsar
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blue

subtle kite
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Sorry not sorry

nimble fiber
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im blue

subtle kite
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Mobility is a dump stat and reload speed should have that 74%

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If it was flipped it would basically be a godroll

errant mountain
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I have sainted gun slinger

subtle kite
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If you want a real answer on improving it if you don’t wanna trash it

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Get Surgical on it instead of speedload

nimble fiber
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always hurts

subtle kite
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Yeeeah

errant mountain
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So cool

subtle kite
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Surgical and HC work so nicely

errant mountain
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I'll try to HC 4 too

errant mountain
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I do have some questions about some of my other weapons

subtle kite
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Sure

errant mountain
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But I'll need to take a few pictures 1st

merry lance
exotic portal
subtle kite
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Do you not have a PrtScrn feature

errant mountain
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xbox

subtle kite
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Xbox can’t screenshot?

lone pecan
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You can take screenshots on Xbox

nimble fiber
errant mountain
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It can- I can't be bothered

subtle kite
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Ah

distant galleon
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nah i'm on PC, i just never bothered screenshotting because i forgot how to do it

distant galleon
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the alt f4 trick won't work on me pal

lone pecan
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This is unlucky, what do I do with it? KEKW_ogryn

exotic portal
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7-8k coin?

quasi marsh
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kinda

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if you're ok with havinga t2 blessing and talent KEKW_ogryn

exotic portal
quasi marsh
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yeah but a flamer isnt a brauto

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maybe they want to play brauto

lone pecan
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I wanted to try brautos yeah, see if they are better than the infantry versions for me on xbox

exotic portal
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1500 missions 30 mins a run, get the flamer bruther.

quasi marsh
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if you want to just try it instead of rolling another, just carapace to maniac and hit&run to deathspitter or something

fleet fractal
quasi marsh
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you lose 10% dmg on flak but the t2 fire frenzy barely matters

fleet fractal
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we have been watching you

quasi marsh
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mostly the flak perk hurts

errant mountain
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Here is another one- Agrip IAG

lone pecan
exotic portal
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Why is the resolution.. sooo, blue?

errant mountain
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Phone pic

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Don't ask

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Pls

errant mountain
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Anyway what blessings should I be aiming for

subtle kite
errant mountain
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Yeah

subtle kite
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The unarmored perk hurts though

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I never run that either my IAGs nor brautos

errant mountain
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I like it for crowds but yeah

exotic portal
errant mountain
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It's livable

errant mountain
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I use IAG as a all rounder

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This shotgun will hurt your eyes tho

exotic portal
errant mountain
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Damn nice roll

errant mountain
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In the future

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Promising?

exotic portal
errant mountain
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It took me too long to get 1 like this

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Pain

exotic portal
errant mountain
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Why the groan/pox tho?

exotic portal
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Not locked.

errant mountain
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Fair

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Las time

exotic portal
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Fun to run thou.

errant mountain
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Honestly Infernus could be good

errant mountain
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I have 2 more change ones and a meme shotgun

exotic portal
errant mountain
nimble fiber
exotic portal
errant mountain
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Is it decent?

exotic portal
errant mountain
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Noice

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Should I get trust 4 or brittle 4?

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Probably thrust

errant mountain
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My Braced

errant mountain
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I'm spilt between Flak or changing speed load

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Thoughts?

zinc talon
exotic portal
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Decent roll.

vocal pulsar
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silly

zinc talon
# errant mountain My Braced

windows key + shift + S will immediately take a photo of your display and then let you drag across what you'd like to snip out and save/send, and ctrl + v here will paste it never even have to see the file

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I know I know, game pass or something

errant mountain
zinc talon
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just lettin ya know flexleftmegachingrynflexright

exotic portal
zinc talon
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then I wash my hands of you you get what you deserve

errant mountain
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Any way thanks for the help- my zealot will be better now

exotic portal
hushed agate
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If you have the xbox app on your phone you can download screenshots

zinc talon
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or like 2 or 3, whenever I could get one

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I am nowhere near the million

zinc talon
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a story in two parts

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SAHJ SED PERTEC

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AINT ERE TA KILL

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ERE TA KEEP YEW LAFFINSTOKS FRUM GETIN KILD

deep imp
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any thought on this build ?

red pollen
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3 million dockets, one good mark 6, ready to have my heart broken by hadron. Instead, a sword that the god emperor would hand down to a thousand generations of heirs was born. 900 hours, my first truly perfect creation

rain steppe
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It may have finally happened I may have stopped being a psyker main and am now a zealot main

hollow mantle
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Welcome to zealous virtue

hollow mantle
drifting moss
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FINALLY I HAVE PERMS

rain steppe
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God it's weird not listening to the voices in my head XD

red pollen
zinc talon
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stop

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buy

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from

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brunt

red pollen
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That being said

zinc talon
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it is a naked scam there are now even voice lines in the new player cutscenes laying out how it gives lower tier gear than you should be betting

hollow mantle
# deep imp https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b0ec445-74d6-45cc-b269-578fe649fc19/ze...

Chocobs pretty good. The Agri shotgun isn't what I'd choose and I'd do maniac over carapace on the crusher unless it's the melee only maelstrom, but the build seems alright. Very defensive and I'm not sure the talent path for extra wounds and damage cdr is really worth it. Could probably get some utility out of spending those points elsewhere. But if you do find you want the wounds then it's a good way of getting them without having to use curio slots on it.

red pollen
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Since hadron finally gave me rampage I might get rid of unarmored

red pollen
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They’re all from brunt lottery

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What else am I gonna do with millions and millions of dockets

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Brunt’s armory is where daily auric people get their god rolls

zinc talon
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login every hour to check every one of your charactrers at the docket vendor

red pollen
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Melk just good for hunting for power cycler

rain steppe
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I don't think I've traveled to the land of auric I finally got to lvl 30 tho

fair igloo
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90% of crafters stop crafting right before they get a godroll

fair igloo
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Keep on gambling crafting! 💞

buoyant pecan
# zinc talon

things ogrysn say to explain how they bodied 19 chaos terminators in a row with no ammo, in the nude.

exotic portal
hollow mantle
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Unfortunately if you want to try a new weapon out on the spot the only recourse the game gives you is to gamble to get it

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Instead of having to just wait and hope the shop gives you a good one

zinc talon
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sure

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I tell every puny I can to buy a grey from brunt every time they unlock a new variant

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as they work up through the ranks

hollow mantle
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Sure

livid oak
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decimator or headtaker ?

rain steppe
hollow mantle
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I mean more a weapon for a build. Something to try out after you are proficient with the game and have figured out what works and doesn't. Then you want to try a specific weapon and blessing combo out with some new set of talents. Now to get that weapon you might have to drop a lot of resources to get, and it's very rare that the shop will give you something that's going to work for it.

Will it happen eventually? Sure. If you want to play it that night? Better have some resources to dump and hope you don't get unlucky

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Yeah

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If you are blessing hunting you just grind blues from greys

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At this point I snatch up anything out of the shop with decent stats

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All the time

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But that still only works if you are constantly playing

exotic portal
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Grind.

zinc talon
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practically generative ai here

exotic portal
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Any closer missions to this ship?

fair igloo
# exotic portal 1k hours.

it's actually insane how much time missions take up
I thought i was finally getting out of the "newer/worse player" stage until i realized i don't even ahve 500 missions done yet

exotic portal
fair igloo
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ooh i didn't think about it like that

exotic portal
fair igloo
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well I meant like thinking about the time it takes to get through the mission and the time it takes to get the resources and farm kills differently

fair igloo
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I think I might have misunderstood something somewhere lol

frank night
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If you just run and hustle through you can probably make it a lot quicker cos the spawns will cap out and everything will just be chasing you

livid oak
red pollen
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Otherwise head taker since decimator doesn’t synergizewith brutal moments since it’s for single targets it will reset on a miss or multiple enemies hit

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Bromentum hard to get value on that axe though I’m sure someone will disagree

north sedge
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The achlys just isn't very good

harsh spruce
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which revolver is better for zealot im new here

red pollen
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ADS variant to snipe specialists or learn throwing knife and open up the possibility to run bolter or flamer

harsh spruce
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k thanks

sour oxide
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yeah the fanning breaks my brain non-ads to shoot accurately

void silo
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how good is brutal momentum on a tatical axe?

sour oxide
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solid

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pre and post change

void silo
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better than headtaker and shred?

sour oxide
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headtaker + brutal momentum is what I ran when I used MK7 tac axe

livid oak
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i get huge value on brutal momentum with the strikedown axe with the push attack

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its aoe

void silo
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guess i'll keep farming for BM then

sour oxide
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you dont really need teh rank 4 tbh

livid oak
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i think achlys is better than tac axe

sour oxide
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rank 3 usually sufficient

void silo
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aint got tier 3 either lol

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got none of the BM on tac axe yet

sour oxide
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aw otay, I honestly think my tacaxe is the best weapon I have just prefer daggers tho

livid oak
sour oxide
livid oak
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damn that looks sick

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except its a tac axe dunno bout that

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i feel like the lower dmg weps dont scale up on charged atks into damnation strong enough

sour oxide
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yeah but my play style I favor movement over everything so the fire axe is just a little too slow

void silo
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nah they scale pretty well

sour oxide
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I have a friend who uses it and man he is devastating with it

void silo
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the speed and mobility really helps

north sedge
zealous halo
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are there any bad weapons in this class? like ones that badly need buffs that fatshark didnt do

livid oak
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i think 85% of the ranged weps suck

sour oxide
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devil claw imo

livid oak
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for ranged boltgun is my fav for moving down armored bois

coarse birch
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I cant think of any weapons that zealot has that need buffs desperately no

sour oxide
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bolt gun is pretty savage but revolver is bae in my world

coarse birch
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Tac axe

livid oak
sour oxide
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bolt gun the deploy and the reload just hurt me

livid oak
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the reload does suck

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but when you killl 4 crushers in one clip its insane

sour oxide
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true I have a tendancy to dump my mag and forget to reload before going to melee so revolver at least lets me singel chamber a round in a pinch

north sedge
livid oak
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yes it is look at my screenshot. theyre both strikedown armor piercing ?

north sedge
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Go swing em around

livid oak
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i did lol

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they feel very similar

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and the tooltip says therye both strikedown

sour oxide
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I think even tho they are strike down the angle of the strike down is different no?

livid oak
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one of them swings like a baseball bat but its still overhead and striking down. i dont think it makes any diff on the angle

ivory marlin
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Hi zealot darktide

north sedge
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Achlys is one of the worst weapons and rashad is the best axe and one of the best all rounders

hard bane
sour oxide
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yeah but mentally to me as a player it does. tac axe mk7 vs mk4 they are both strike down but 7 is move overhead.

south folio
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achlys' attack combos are certainly more vertical besides the h1

livid oak
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the game is telling you its the same - the visual is just a visual

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its same dps in testing in meat grinder too

sour oxide
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yes but my brain is smooth, so they are different even tho they are the same lol

south folio
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yes same damage but different hitboxes

hard bane
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^

livid oak
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how do you even see it ? in swinging they all hit the head coming down

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not sure im buying this

sour oxide
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I could be mistaking lights for heavy, I am a dagger zealot afterall

livid oak
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yeah sorry i meant for heavy atks

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the lights are slightly different agreed

sour oxide
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thats probably where I am getting off the rails then my bad

sour oxide
ivory marlin
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Howdy

south folio
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yeah achlys' h2 and h3 are the same as the other axes

livid oak
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i primarily use push atk for light swings and theyre idential, horizontal swing

south folio
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in general the rashad/antax gets served better by just lightspam for most things

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bust out the heavy for unyielding/carapace but otherwise the lights are preferred primarily because of brutal momentum

livid oak
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yup

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i spam push atk + lights on hordes and absolutely shred

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bolt gun on beefy bois, knife throws on unarmored specials. it feels great

sour oxide
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the uncanny knife throws a are savage af on armored

south folio
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hi mr. toe

hushed knoll
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I am not a toe

south folio
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your honor, i must submit this evidence

hushed knoll
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Overruled

hollow mantle
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yeah with combat axe 90% of what you are doing is spamming lights so I can understand why someone could be confused

north sedge
hollow mantle
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especially when you just show the tool tip and what it says lol

hushed knoll
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Dough go to bedge

south folio
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wha

hushed knoll
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You need to rest for your family gathering

hushed knoll
red pollen
south folio
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i was simply caught off guard by the recommendation of sleep at this time of day

hollow mantle
# livid oak the game is telling you its the same - the visual is just a visual

and the visual means everything in these games. thats what determines the hitbox. if a weapon has a different attack path then that will determine what its hitting. There isn't a hard coded standard for all strikedowns and vanguards and the like. Its what makes the games feel different than others. Where your weapon swings actually matters

north sedge
hushed knoll
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I forgot about that one

hushed knoll
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Divers

south folio
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prob not any time soon

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doesn't look like my type of game

hushed knoll
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Oh right you said

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I Apollo sig

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Apologize

south folio
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can't believe you've done this
i request $7500

hushed knoll
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Why so much

north sedge
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Hell Carter

hushed knoll
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Dough are you having a barbecue

north sedge
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No

delicate shadow
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why not?

hushed knoll
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Are you having a quinceañera

north sedge
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Yes absolutely

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I'm turning 15, i am a woman now

hushed knoll
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That's not what I meant feelsbadman

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I meant like a family member

north sedge
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Not mexican

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
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Oh God I didn't mean to be culturally insensitive

north sedge
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It's ok I've seen you be far more german before

hushed knoll
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NO

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I meant

delicate shadow
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it's fine sometimes I get extremely Australian

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happens

sour oxide
hushed knoll
delicate shadow
hushed knoll
sour oxide
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and barbies

hushed knoll
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Are Australians notable for their alcoholism?

hushed knoll
visual stream
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The amount of things that are just an instant game over in Australia is kinda crazy

sour oxide
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imo only the strong australians make it to adulthood, seems like everything in that country has some type of venom or poison

north sedge
hushed knoll
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NO

visual stream
south folio
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😊

visual stream
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If I lived there I would be an alcoholic too

south folio
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that lil guy seems soo quirky

sour oxide
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outside sounds scary

hushed knoll
south folio
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the stonefish

delicate shadow
hushed knoll
visual stream
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Oh and they also have the only species of crocodile that will actively hunt and pursue humans

visual stream
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Another -1 for the swimmy enjoyers

south folio
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at least the gambling aspect i knew from i did a thing/boy boy

visual stream
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I saw a story of some teenagers who had to hang on for days in a tree because one crocodile was camping the water under it

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It was one of those trees that live in the middle of brackish waters I think

hushed knoll
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Are you having a stroe

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Stroke

delicate shadow
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horror movie shit

hushed knoll
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Oh no I rad that wrong

nimble fiber
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stroe

hushed knoll
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Read

south folio
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hahaha

visual stream
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On nicer note, listen to what baby crocs sound like

hushed knoll
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Star Wars blasters

south folio
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i did a thing/boy boy are two youtubers

sour oxide
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where is the video of the homeless florida guy trying to fight an alligator and it bites his leg

visual stream
hushed knoll
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What

visual stream
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Like THREW him

fair igloo
tropic harbor
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Collecting weapons with bad stats has screwed me over. I wanted to try ironhelm, so I was looking at the ones I had and found one that would have almost perfect perks/blessings with a little plasteel... then the stat

nimble fiber
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florida man a menace

visual stream
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Never visit a Florida 7/11

delicate shadow
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bro actually did the gator a favor by getting him off the road lol

visual stream
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Worst mistake of my life

hushed knoll
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Gay

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Gale

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Jfc

nimble fiber
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xD

delicate shadow
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A disgruntled koala growled at an Australian man who rescued the animal from the side of the road in southern Queensland.

Footage uploaded by Lozz Wright shows her dad sporting heavy duty gloves, picking up the marsupial as it tries to break free from his clutches before he is released to a nearby tree.

Wright told Storyful that they witnessed...

▶ Play video
delicate shadow
visual stream
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Koalas are surprisingly dangerous

north sedge
delicate shadow
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it's supposed to look like me not gale Guarded

visual stream
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Gonorrhea carriers plus they're not scared to throw hands

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Cute tho

delicate shadow
delicate shadow
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but yes very adorbs

hushed knoll
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He does look to msucuaoeot to be gag

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Muscular

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Gale

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Too

visual stream
delicate shadow
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idk everyone in BG3 is just jacked af lmao

tropic harbor
delicate shadow
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only like 4 body types in the game and they're all 250% fit

hushed knoll
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I would let all the bandits in BG3 steal me away blobaww

delicate shadow
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even the goblins?

hushed knoll
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Ofc

delicate shadow
hushed knoll
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Hobgoblins are pretty hot ngl

nimble fiber
north sedge
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Stan also wants halsins smoothie all over him

hushed knoll
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I mean butt ears

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Egg bears

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Bugbears

north sedge
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What

nimble fiber
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xD

hushed knoll
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Bugbears

sour oxide
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arent koalas basically drugged by eucalyptis leaves?

delicate shadow
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eucalyptus leaves have effectively zero nutritional value and the oils are also toxic yeah

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so Koalas evolved specifically to eat them and survive doing so

nimble fiber
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talk about picky eaters huh

sour oxide
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lol peak of evolution kinda like sloths

delicate shadow
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yea lmao

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very similar to sloths

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less chill though

sour oxide
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I feel like sloths probably have that creepy strength where they grab you and you pull away only for it to hold on wayyyy stronger

nimble fiber
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100%

visual stream
sour oxide
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its a slow...creepy....rip with a blank stare

quick gulch
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How important is the damage stat on a braced autogun?

unkempt horizon
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very

quick gulch
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rolled a 380 with 66% damage, meh

minor sage
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380 matters very little

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Usually the stat spread is the important part

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I have 320s and 330s rolled into perfects

quick gulch
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what's the stat spread for the Mk VIII Agripinaa

minor sage
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I think 75-80 dmg, stopping power and 69+ stab and ammo

quick gulch
#

sounds good.

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thanks!

median steeple
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man everytime there is a post in tweets it gets reacted spam

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its 2023 all over again

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so nostalgic

fleet zealot
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2023 wasn't even 6 months ago dweeb

sour oxide
#

on weapons that have first target and other damage specific multiplicative stats high dmg is very important

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80% vs 75%

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just -5% dmg -3% first target and its 60-100dmg

visual stream
static knot
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Hey I’ve got some super new guy questions that I’m just not understanding and need broken down just a little more.

Brain automatically wants to use a weapon that says higher damage but on higher tiered weapon sometimes the damage is lower. What is the thought process in choosing a weapon in that regard? Always choose the higher tier?

Second question is the stat bars. Understanding what the percentages relate to? Is that just a percentage increase. For example the picture Trauma posted above it says “damage 80%” is that an %80 percent damage increase buff of the 56/149 damage stat?

visual stream
# static knot Hey I’ve got some super new guy questions that I’m just not understanding and ne...

The best way to find out how your weapon is affected by the stat bars is by inspecting and hovering over the bar, that'll give you a breakdown of what it does and is helpful for self-determining since there are many cases of weapons being affected differently by the same stat in one way or another. As for the higher tiered thing, tier doesn't mean a ton unless the perks/blessings from the upgrades actually make the weapon better.

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In the pins you can find the community's mostly-agreed optimal blessings and perks, though of course there are deviations that work

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If you give me an example of the weapons you're talking about I could maybe tell you if it's worth?

modest rampart
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You can also ask around on what the important break points on specific weapons are. Im not sure if theres a sheet that has all the important ones available

static knot
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Ah I see the pins I’ll read up on that. And yeah sure it’ll be a picture of my tv screen unfortunately but one sec

tropic harbor
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Is there any real advantage to using the ironhelm hammer?

visual stream
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A super specific case being the flamers dgaf about the damage stat, but 76% burn is the absolute minimum acceptable amount

tropic harbor
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There's some difference I'm feeling ebtween the two but I'm not sure what

dense field
visual stream
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Less activated special damage means you have to work for a couple of breakpoints and you'll do less boss damage, but I find it pretty good

modest rampart
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As long as you got Thrust on it, youre good thumbsup_ogryn

visual stream
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Thrust is a Must(tm)

static knot
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I can’t attach a picture but:

I’m looking at a chain sword rating 349 with attack 204/204 and damage 64%

and a tactical axe rating 401 with attack 112/160 damage 70%

A rookie to the game like me takes one Quick Look and chooses the higher attack power. But that’s a lower rating and damage % so that’s the relationship I’m trying to understand

modest rampart
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If you want to spec for perks on hammers id recommend at least one of them being Unyielding. The other can be whichever you want. I think mine is Flak just cuz thats what Hadron gave me

visual stream
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I personally pass on unyielding to do elite/flak, since reapers and bulwarks get one-shotted regardless and I don't feel like I need to nuke a boss, though been meaning to try it

visual stream
static knot
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60%

visual stream
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That's decent, I'm no pro at tac axes but if the higher tier one has blessings and perks from the pins then it's most likely better

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Penetration is also an important stat for taxe iirc

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Both sound workable though

static knot
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Gotcha thank you

modest rampart
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Also good luck and enjoy!

visual stream
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Rather than optimizing

static knot
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for sure! thanks I haven’t been upgrading anything I’ve just really been trying to figure out what things are

visual stream
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If you have any more questions don't be afraid to ask, this chat usually loves answering them

static knot
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I appreciate it, I downloaded this game early this week and hit 18 on Ogryn then decided to try zealot out on a Reddit recommendation and have already hit 29 but still barely understand the all the ins and outs haha. I’m glad there’s a discord

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Definitely enjoying playing zealot

modest rampart
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Zealot is how i started, welcome to the game!

sour oxide
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more importantly

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play what suits your play style

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I have god roll thunder hammers but I don't understand how to play that slow and I am awful with them

glacial stratus
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@royal vortex Is this any good?

wraith helm
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Vtuber brainrot. Avert thy eyes sinners

oak ermine
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Compare the H3 of Mk6 to H1 of Mk3, the difference will be much smaller

foggy coral
#

Just impulse bought this because of the rating, but what do I even do with it?

fair igloo
modest rampart
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check the pin for the crusher guide

fleet zealot
full nebula
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Is this worth snagging from Melk? Unyielding isnt too good i don't think. Not sure what youre supposed to use blessing wise

rain steppe
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Well played my first auric game as a zealot completely new territory

cerulean moth
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If you have nothing better I don’t see why not

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Upgrade and if bricked take over pressure

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Saves you farming for it

full nebula
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its like doodoo now isnt it tho

coarse birch
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no

cerulean moth
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Depends on the last perk. Right now? Not bad

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Perk/ blessing whatever

coarse birch
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overpressure is bugged rn though i wouldnt use it

full nebula
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nah i mean the flamer in general, is not very good, got nerfed?

coarse birch
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doesnt do anything

full nebula
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i could be wrong

coarse birch
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flamer is fine

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its just not dumb like it used to be

cerulean moth
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Flamer is perfectly fine

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Still hoard clear in a can

full nebula
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i see i see

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not sure what id run it on tbh i dont use a lot of single target stuff for zealot

cerulean moth
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Some people like to run throwing knifes with flamer as it lets them still snipe far away shit

full nebula
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i mostly just play stealth, wouldnt be terrible

median steeple
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you need blaze away on the flamer

cerulean moth
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Beyond that I don’t have many suggestions

full nebula
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yeh knives are like having 12 rounds on the revolver

cerulean moth
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I still suggest getting that thing and upgrading it

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U never know

full nebula
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blaze away is v good on everything ive used basically

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yeah ill see what it rolls on the gold, unfortunately it looks like game time for that lmao

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im the worst about saving material

sharp zodiac
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Oh right, I uninstalled darktide, was gonna check in for the new melk stuff

cerulean moth
full nebula
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time to reinstall, check, be disappointed, uninstall

sharp zodiac
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My clone

cerulean moth
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Download it again

nimble fiber
#

fucken druggo

cerulean moth
#

A second French has infiltrated the chat

full nebula
#

earlier i rolled a plasma gun on my vet and it got the exact same rolls as my existing one

cerulean moth
#

I would be playing v2 versus right now

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But it’s ass

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For now

polar nexus
nimble fiber
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maybe it wont be next time u lookKEKW_ogryn

sharp zodiac
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Game just keeps giving me a headache and overall the experience has been lessened

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Maybe once some content comes I'll reinstall it

full nebula
#

yeah im starting to get burned out

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content pls

nimble fiber
#

play something else

elfin steppe
misty ravine
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Should I take the knifepill?

full nebula
#

easier said than done

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ive played a lot of the usual suspects of good games

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not that ive played everything, but im also not interested in a lot genres like rts and stuff

nimble fiber
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then shi idk, watch something?

full nebula
#

nooo complaining in discord about game content is the move

sharp zodiac
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I bought elphelt and I've been having a blast with her

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Jack-o too but I haven't tried her yet

coarse birch
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she will take a while to learn

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but shes really dumb if you learn her

sharp zodiac
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She'll be last

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Then happy chaos

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/j

coarse birch
#

damn you just learning everyone

sharp zodiac
#

Yep

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Every female

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And Potemkin

polar nexus
fading vale
#

man helldivers makes me wanna do bad things

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like throw a 380mm barrage at the only rando 40m away 30 seconds from extraction

coarse birch
#

your turning into old josho

fading vale
#

but in this game

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it's beautiful

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I may have killed 2 teammates in the process

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including crab

coarse birch
#

rip crab

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he didnt deserve it

coarse birch
sharp zodiac
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I will

full nebula
#

helldivers looks cool but i dont like that you give access to your entire pc to the anti-cheat that will surely never have a data breach

frank night
#

the helldiver exp is someone going 'uhhh just dont be in the middle of the compound' and then a flare lands next to you with the words '500kg bomb' written on it

opaque island
polar nexus
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Do you have melee in Helldivers?

fading vale
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uh, not really

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it's mostly guns explosions and chaos

full nebula
#

Not really, the one Helldivers is using is a lot more invasive on your pc than others, take a look into it

indigo quartz
#

its als ofaulty

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it has weaknesses it exposes your PC to by proxy (:

merry flume
#

unarmored 😔

full nebula
#

so close

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still amazing tho

open pollen
#

Wish helldivers was first person :c

junior vortex
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Knife zealot is fine when your teammates are paying attention

hushed knoll
junior vortex
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Why does everything have to be first person

hushed knoll
open pollen
junior vortex
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Terraria be like

fading vale
#

third person is perfect for helldivers

junior vortex
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Playing battle front 2 the original version

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It was 3rd person.

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3rd person games were popular in the early 2000's

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I mean there was fps games but it was mostly third person for awhile

open pollen
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It might be perfect for the game, but it's not perfect for me. I get motion sick playing with this particular type of camera

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I wonder if they'll ever allow mods. I know DT has a third person mod.

polar nexus
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if i buy helldivers 2 i am afraid it will be another starship troopers

hot jolt
polar nexus
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damn

terse inlet
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I have more

misty mason
#

Anyone else having Steam sync issues?

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Ah cool literally the second I posted that it fixed itself

distant galleon
#

it really do be like that sometimes

polar nexus
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less people in dt means shitty internet experience

#

ffs

ionic light
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Which combat blade do y'all prefer?

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For flesh tearer and riposte setup

visual stream
junior vortex
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Knife zealot is fun

visual stream
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Also yes a lil

junior vortex
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Haymaker is meta?

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Like it's good

ionic light
junior vortex
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MK 6

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My stats are good so uh

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Flak and Crit are what I have in combo with haymaker.

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My firearm is revolver.

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It's exalted right now but haymaker by itself is amazing

violet root
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so what hammer is better for when you want something to be atomized

visual stream
rigid trellis
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crucis does more damage

violet root
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Thank you

visual stream
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Ironhelm if you're a fan of also atomizing the working class

ionic light
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Crucis if you hate yourself and ironhelm if you want to actually have fun and still one hit things

terse inlet
#

One hit what?

ornate bone
vocal pulsar
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crucis does 25% more special attack damage

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over ironhelm

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but ironhelm special heavy 3 is nothing to scoff at

ionic light
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Plus ironhelm isn't a squeaky toy hammer when trying to horde clear

junior vortex
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Catachan Combat Knife is nice

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Bleed isn't useless it makes horde clearing more efficient and fun

north sedge
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🤔

junior vortex
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But if you only rely it sucks

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It's a nice tool to have

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But you aren't supposed to use one thing only in builds

rose flower
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Decided to use knife zealot after trying other stuff for a while.

Got carried away. Was away from group. Died immediately. Embarassed myself

nimble fiber
#

happens

torn yoke
sharp zodiac
#

Can't believe I've crawled back to Warframe

shadow ember
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Cross save

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Any day now

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They said they'd do it

#

I refuse to play without my crap

sharp zodiac
#

I haven't even done new war yet

#

I am extremely behind

#

Game wise and market economy wise

#

Hell last thing I remember was giving up on leveling ember prime

shadow ember
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I used to be a trade fucker

#

There is so much value locked up in that PS4 save but

cerulean moth
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..mf was a warframe sex worker????

still quartz
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You used to fuck trades?

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Damn

shadow ember
#

You say that

cerulean moth
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how you get that good

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damn

shadow ember
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But I just to dress up my frame in Appealing colors and designs to stand out and sell better

cerulean moth
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so like those hostess thingo

shadow ember
#

I basically put on aesthetic lingerie

sharp zodiac
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I just did black and yellow

cerulean moth
#

basic

sharp zodiac
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Then ultraviolet rainbows for my mirage

cerulean moth
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basic ass bitch

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post your frames

shadow ember
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30% more sales of you lean into reflective soft blue metals

sharp zodiac
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I don't even know if their pics exist anymore

shadow ember
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Bronzed chroma too, that fucking sold trade deals

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I did my mirage in skin tones and reds

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To s l u t out my trades

sharp zodiac
#

These were the frames I last remember using

shadow ember
#

It worked is the crazy part

sharp zodiac
#

I think I remember giving up on whatever you do to reset levels

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Involving Ember

shadow ember
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Based gara

sharp zodiac
#

She was my first prime I grinded for

shadow ember
#

Sayrn was the first I traded for

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I wonder if she is still so monstrously op

sharp zodiac
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Saryn and valkyr (she isn't there) were the two I also bought off a guy

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Mirage P and Mesa too

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Man Mesa P was fun

shadow ember
#

Garuda gang

sharp zodiac
#

I always wanted to give her a shot

shadow ember
#

What do you mean " take damage"

#

Darktide, zealot even needs a vampire subclass tree

#

I love drain tanks

sharp zodiac
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That would be cool

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Oh hey I remember this, I used this as khora's stat stick

shadow ember
#

Fucking orokin defense missions

#

Sedna grind

sharp zodiac
#

Ah I remember those

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And now I just remembered I'm gonna have to farm lua for those thingys

#

The one with the loud beepers and suicide guys

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Conduits

shadow ember
#

Ancient mushroom bullshit giving durability buffs I'm going to ignore

rose flower
#

Y’know what. Maybe I will take Loner for once. Fuck it

shadow ember
#

Give zealot Warframe mobility

#

Fuck vetrans

sharp zodiac
#

We're 5% of the way there

#

That isn't a lot but it's consideration

shadow ember
#

Speak for yourself

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I'm at a solid 15 but I can't get a tone to try the build

sharp zodiac
#

Damn

shadow ember
#

" you sacrificed everything but speed" 🤓

#

I know I was there

fair igloo
#

Automatically fully recharge zealot's charge on killing a special so we can just chain charges across the entire map on kill like demoknight

shadow ember
#

I decided those nodes were less important than go fast

rose flower
#

I always have taken toughness damage aura so lowkey trying Loner feels weird

shadow ember
fair igloo
shadow ember
#

Like yeah it's not tactical to run ahead into that mixed horde

#

But you have to understand some of the fights I've come out of in my zealoting caree

shadow ember
#

You know why you HAD that chaff, you didn't have a pissed enough zealot

junior vortex
#

Well the invisible gives you a short break to pick out targets, and regain toughness.

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I have rending on my knife with haymaker and use loner.

#

Not just revive.

shadow ember
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They call it forcing aggro onto the team, I call it parrying the ais targeting so I can kill more

junior vortex
#

Gunners aren't scary anymore

#

I always got gunned down but it's so nice

shadow ember
#

Gunners CAN be scary

#

When they have a gun and not a shovel

#

But that's a. " Can't cross a room in .5 seconds and force a melee " problem

misty mason
#

hope they get a rework

shadow ember
#

I wish you could side grade zombies like orcs

junior vortex
#

Not when you are knife zealot with shroud.

shadow ember
#

Knife shroud zealot can cross the room in .2 secs

junior vortex
#

You're so fast with knife

shadow ember
#

Shroud is just a speed boost with some other miscellaneous effects

junior vortex
#

Makes you invisible and makes it easier to backstab.

#

When you have rending backstab that is

shadow ember
#

Fun fact if you run your knife zealot lean, you can hit every speed node on the tree

junior vortex
#

I'm running haymaker and ruthless backstab

#

On my knife

shadow ember
#

You can go so fast you can block a dude to stagger him and sprint around and backstab him in the animation

junior vortex
#

The +80% rending is crazy

shadow ember
#

Bloodletter and crit capstone to never have cooldowns

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Piety or ehatever

junior vortex
#

Don't need bloodletter if you have the better perk on zealot

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Scourge

fleet zealot
shadow ember
fleet zealot
#

uncanny lets you always have rending no matter what since 5 hits with a knife is nothing, and executor/precog would do more than haymaker ever can with knife, even the mk6 has a pitiful target count

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idk why haymaker exists on knife cause it's a bait

shadow ember
#

Bloodletter let's you fish crits

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And makes it so you don't have to aim, you either headshot or bleed

fleet zealot
#

you mean lacerate?

#

but aiming isn't difficult

shadow ember
#

Perhaps

fleet zealot
#

most enemies will be hit

#

if you just keep your knife level, maybe slightly upward if you picked short

shadow ember
#

I more want it for the bleed

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Bleed leads to crit stacking leads to shroud refund

fleet zealot
#

besdies my thoughts on bleed

#

flesh tearer is better

shadow ember
#

I don't want damage I want shroud resets

fleet zealot
#

knife has a high base crit chance and has no issue maintaining scourge and blazing once you proc it for the first time

#

aka

shadow ember
#

Since shroud is speed

fleet zealot
shadow ember
#

Resets.

fleet zealot
#

autocorrect

#

move on

#

unless you literally want to gimp your build for less damage and less kills and less meaningful bleed count

#

for what amounts to be, 5% more shroud uptime?

shadow ember
#

Hey now

#

I'm gimping my build for.more speed

#

Imagine going slower than you legally have to an entire 5% of the time

#

Might as well play vet

fleet zealot
#

like idk it just icks me I get playing for fun build I have a flesh tearer knife as well, I just don't see the point of playing a meme build but even more sub optimally

shadow ember
#

It works more than. You'd think

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It's also my " I want to win build"

fleet zealot
#

not dying will get you carried through matches

junior vortex
#

Speed is important have you played any game. The damage isn't always good.

fleet zealot
#

as long as you don't low score and also just get downed on repeat

shadow ember
#

I THINK. It's because the higher speed is enough to walk out of melee hits as if you dodged

fleet zealot
junior vortex
#

Health means nothing if you have speed to dodge them.

shadow ember
#

I'm not sure why exactly it works

fleet zealot
#

having some speed is helpful

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
shadow ember
#

🤷 it works

fleet zealot
#

also, you are probably playing safe enough and know the game loop well enough you can do plays

#

I'm just saying you can do your build better

#

there is improvements to be made

junior vortex
#

So you make it sound like a skill issue.

shadow ember
#

Until I sell more people on it I probably won't figure out why

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If you can get me more speed I'm all ears

junior vortex
#

I'm just saying you make it sound like a skill issue more then anything.

blissful tendon
#

what now

fleet zealot
shadow ember
#

I've got enough everything else to work witb

fleet zealot
#

and you got a perfect knife

shadow ember
#

Knife can get haymaker?

fleet zealot
#

you can change unyielding to 25%, or change it to flak, or even carapace, it's an mk3

shadow ember
#

Huh

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Can new knife get it?

fleet zealot
#

quoting myself above, haymaker on mk6 has been tested and it's still subpar

shadow ember
#

You could throughout the dice roll.with the wide swings

fleet zealot
#

just doesn't hit enough targets

#

like the ogryn clubs

#

ogryn clubs use haymaker well

#

cause they can do one wide swing and knock out a whole swath of, well anything

#

knife is a high damage, high one shot weapon already, with low targets

#

it simply can't keep up with executor or a properly maintained precognition

shadow ember
#

I feel like facts and stats and testing get in the way of build crafting

fleet zealot
#

i think it does even a tad worse than riposte and flesh tearer

#

I think people mistake their quirks and fun for objective fact

shadow ember
#

You'll never find the next crazy ass thing if you go off common knowledge

fleet zealot
#

that's how it evolves, I was there when chaxe became good, before it really

shadow ember
#

God

fleet zealot
#

saying how mk4 chaxe after it's first maniac+swing speed buff would be a viable statcheck weapon just cause it has slaught+ht

shadow ember
#

The chaxe is really an example of be careful who you make fun of in highschool

fleet zealot
#

you kinda underestimate how degen this discord is, we do have people testing and trying things as new balance changes ship

shadow ember
#

Well they should

#

Variety is the spice of the imperium

fleet zealot
#

and common knowledge is a great starting point

little thicket
#

Testing is part of the fun of the game

shadow ember
#

Meta should be a cancelable slur

fleet zealot
#

we know rending is BiS regardless of the melee weapon

fleet zealot
#

oh i think i got one in spanish too

shadow ember
#

I BIS Ed one once but I feel dirty saying the abbreviation

fleet zealot
#

meta mis huevos en tu boca

shadow ember
#

Look over at the plasma gun channel

#

Variety is dying there

fleet zealot
#

power>damage>cleave=crit>everything else, outside of special things like brutal momentum

#

in general, depends on the weapon but it's not hard to figure out

#

until fatshark does a massive overhaul of stats that's just kinda gonna be the gist

shadow ember
#

You didn't put speed at the front of that

#

Interesting

#

Just because swift slaying is good doesn't mean you always have to take it

little thicket
#

Mobility on weapons has a fairly low effect on weapons in terms of movement speed.

#

Talents meanwhile have major impacts.

fleet zealot
#

oh yea

#

(melee)attack speed>speed

little thicket
#

Actual reason mobility on weapons is good is due to extra dodges

fleet zealot
#

we don't talk about ranged attack speed

#

that's just a sad stat

fleet zealot
shadow ember
#

Lmao weapon switch vet

fleet zealot
#

like, 50-60 is the breakpoint

#

I used to rely on dodges but I realized I was panicking and overusing dodges

#

now I'm more zen, like a monk

#

I save my dodges only when needed

#

and now I can solo chaos spawns

little thicket
#

I recently actually tried to see how well veteran auras would translate into actual weapon stats.

#

5% actual damage was around 12 points of damage modifer on weapons.

#

While something like 5% movement speed was equal to 55 points of mobility in relation to sprint speed.

#

It mainly shows that actual talents give way more mobility then the modifers on weapons do.