wooo we love internet desyncing!!
#zealot-class
fair igloo
frozen glen
josho be snacking on batteries
frozen glen
i bet u eat the off brand crayons
vocal pulsar
Window licker
royal vortex
i bet u eat the off brand crayons
only the finest of purple crayola will suffice
ripe quest
My 3 are
Please please I just want the last tick of rev damage
Disabler that I thought I could stagger in time (spoiler, I did not)
1 (one) poxwalker
royal vortex
My 3 are
Please please I just want the last tick of rev damage
Disabler that I ...
using chain weapons
lmfao
south folio
My 3 are
Please please I just want the last tick of rev damage
Disabler that I ...
i get disabled so damn much on zealot
fair igloo
https://streamable.com/l56a5j
oh my god u spectated a trapper run up and net u like u were in a freecam 😭
south folio
why would chastise do this to me (my extremely wrong estimates on whether i can chastise a trapper before it shoots)
royal vortex
out of body experience
fair igloo
Oh there's this too i guess
south folio
Oh there's this too i guess
wha
fair igloo
The game could not handle my power
It had to be contained
slender sparrow
They are indeed not dragging you back there
ripe quest
I get disabled on zealot a lot because I get cocky while flowing and I'm like "oh I can just push/kill them instead of dodging"
south folio
desperation-pilled until you needed that stamina for stagger
royal vortex
if u are dying because of desperation misuse u deserve it
its like 5 seconds on the timer
(i have never been guardbroken 6 times in a row by flamer kicks)
south folio
why would desperation do this to me
royal vortex
(why would i let that happen to me?)
south folio
(i believe you)
ripe quest
Flamer kicks are one of the funniest sources of damage
royal vortex
it didnt even damage me
it was stoppable force vs movable object tier shit
i wanted to do a crusher push attack
i was stubborn.
fair igloo
I get disabled on zealot a lot because I get cocky while flowing and I'm like "o...
Me when I charge into a group of melee enemies and then immediately hear an electric noise 💔
ripe quest
Just like, a 1/5th of your health sometimes because you thought it didn't matter
V cool
ripe quest
Should make it a 1 shot if you get melee'd by a ranged special
royal vortex
assassinated by the stealth flamer
south folio
so true
south folio
all melee attacks from ranged enemies are now block bypass attacks
royal vortex
make shooters deal mauler overhead damage
south folio
and have spillover
ripe quest
1:1 damage profile to an overhead
south folio
but with the dodge catch of a rager combo
you fucking die if you dare to step within 1m of them
vocal pulsar
i didnt even have the special condition border
vocal pulsar
we've had like 5 people do that
royal vortex
they never have the most
vocal pulsar
what's a good shotty look like hehe
no respite is a must on all of them
agri is probably the 'worst' shotgun on zealot
brave sundial
yea okay
brave sundial
so we looking for more DPS
vocal pulsar
flak/maniac perks
brave sundial
kk
vocal pulsar
no respite + fullbore/fire frenzy/deathspitter/scattershot
the second blessing is up to you
kantrael has wider spread, so it benefits less from fullbore
lawbringer is probably my favorite shotgun, atleast on zealot
higher ammo pool, a little bit less damage than kantrael, but it has higher rate of fire
ripe quest
On Zealot you can get both Lawby and Agri to perform really well with Scattershot + Man-Stopper. Scattershot stacks weird but in our favor, allowing for high stacks as long as there is enemy density. With Lawby you get a lawnmower and with Agri you get a shotgun/revolver hybrid.
To clarify, as a sidegrade to standard NR + Damage setups. This fills a different role.
fair igloo
remember how i said earlier my 3rd most common death condition is me slipping off the ledge because i'm incompetent
royal vortex
f
ripe quest
Oh dude I've fallen so much there using a knife or chainsword
coarse birch
i have found some gaps in this game that make me question my existence
ripe quest
I lean way too much into orbiting dodges instead of backdodges and it stings on platforms like that
fair igloo
i should have just charged and H1d but i wanted to get the electric effect 😭
ik it wouldn't have really done anything but it makes it more satisfying
royal vortex
https://streamable.com/pc9skp @coarse birch look at how fked up this weapon is
they demolished it
voidstrike is unplayable
coarse birch
truly
tf am i supposed to do with it
it took me 10 hours in the psyk to figure out how to make it usable
royal vortex
😔
royal vortex
watching the pub psyker just leave the match prior was funny
because he also had void
hushed knoll
Lemon Inheritance
coarse birch
everytime i kill the entire room with one surge void i ask what trauma led me to this
hushed knoll
Drippings
coarse birch
i should enjoy it
hushed knoll
Caramel corn
hushed knoll
What do these things have in common
coarse birch
they are both something you personally would eat
royal vortex
everytime i kill the entire room with one surge void i ask what trauma led me to...
i love that ragers go from living to vaporized instantly with a surge proc
its so good
hushed knoll
They all have the letter i in them
royal vortex
i kill 4 ragers in one biden blast
hushed knoll
Oh nvm caramel corn doesn't
hushed knoll
Why are you saying I would eat you 
coarse birch
did you not think of the answer before asking me????
royal vortex
LMFAO
royal vortex
stan is a bridgekeeper who gives riddles
but he's genuinely trying to figure them out
and just happens to be obstructing the path
coarse birch
"is this the right answer"
"maybe"
"ok ill keep thinking"
"no like i literally dont know"
royal vortex
lmfao
coarse birch
stans exams must be rough
royal vortex
the kids have to grade themselves
coarse birch
actually
south folio
prepare the ballistas
south folio
hi stan
coarse birch
you asked me a question you didnt know the answer to
foggy arch
what would be the dump stats for the Mk XV eviscerator? Mobility and cleave?
hushed knoll
It was a spur of the moment
coarse birch
what did you expect
coarse birch
what would be the dump stats for the Mk XV eviscerator? Mobility and cleave?
mobility
foggy arch
Thanks
coarse birch
well how low are we considering low
coarse birch
oh damn
royal vortex
but if u have like rampage the difference isnt huge because it boosts cleaves too
the scaling on it is p small
coarse birch
i wasnt sure if 50% would make melee feel noticeably worse
royal vortex
nah its like a few points of difference
coarse birch
then what was the answer
hushed knoll
That's like asking for two interpretations of a museum painting
coarse birch
not if theres supposed to be one answer???
hushed knoll
But how do we know
vocal pulsar
But how do we know
because i am a god
coarse birch
A RIDDLE IS BASED OFF HAVING A SINGLE ANSWER
hushed knoll
We know dark matter probably exists and yet we don't know how to prove it
coarse birch
THATS HOW THEY WORK
hushed knoll
It's the same thing here
royal vortex
mankar is part irish (dog) so i dont think he would like british games
royal vortex
bord
vocal pulsar
omniscient. omnipotent. immutable. sovereign. mankar camoran.
royal vortex
omniscient. omnipotent. immutable. sovereign. mankar camoran.
this is one of those "spot the word that doesnt match" puzzles
we all know the answer.
hushed knoll
omniscient. omnipotent. immutable. sovereign. mankar camoran.
Mankar Camoran was a delusional sycophant of a Daedric Prince
hushed knoll
Why not
royal vortex
i just explained it
vocal pulsar
the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon
hushed knoll
EXHILLIOUS IS ALIVE
royal vortex
literally in the message below
hushed knoll
WOOOO
ripe quest
Exhillious would have known the answer <:feelsbadman:527914764794593290>
I would've laughed at you directly instead of just irl.
vocal pulsar
my vision shall be realized
royal vortex
GO MY SCARAB
vocal pulsar
weakness will be purged from the world
hushed knoll
my vision shall be realized
It was realized for like 10 seconds
vocal pulsar
and mortal and immortal alike purified in the refiner's fire
hushed knoll
Damn bro you got those lines down pat
vocal pulsar
favorite game of all time
ripe quest
Stan is gonna have a panic attack when I leave fr in the next 30 minutes to 5 months
ripe quest
It'd be really funny
royal vortex
where were you when exhillious is kill
hushed knoll
Don't leave me here with these people
hushed knoll
Ur not excused
royal vortex
i am a frog
hushed knoll
No
south folio
Don't leave me here with these people
wtf!!!!
ripe quest
Yoggers
hushed knoll
Frogs don't go to school and don't play the saxophone
royal vortex
Ur not excused
may your children never be able to grow old
royal vortex
Frogs don't go to school and don't play the saxophone
i dont do either
hushed knoll
i dont do either
Which proves my point
hushed knoll
DOUGH
royal vortex
Which proves my point
?
coarse birch
stan he would be leaving us here with you
ripe quest
Not even "who I'm talking about", just straight to "what I'm talking about". Stan really hit you guys with a "people" callout.
royal vortex
stan cant handle me
hushed knoll
You are too young to understand my motives
royal vortex
truly a shame
ripe quest
The little gremlin people in my phone
hushed knoll
stan cant handle me
I know classical music, I can Handel anything
hushed knoll
The little gremlin people in my phone
That's just Arco
south folio
u cant say "no u" to that
coarse birch
Also here exhil in case you missed new stan quote
coarse birch
damn
royal vortex
yeah arco u fkin zoomer
coarse birch
thats fucked up
ripe quest
Also here exhil in case you missed new stan quote
stan
vocal pulsar
go drink some prime and put a zynnie up in your upper decky @south folio
like the other little rascals your age
hushed knoll
go drink some prime and put a zynnie up in your upper decky <@297182781346152448...
EW DUDE WHAT
south folio
i can't believe you're already thinking of integrating me into a pizza
south folio
go drink some prime and put a zynnie up in your upper decky <@297182781346152448...
what in the world is this slang
blissful tendon
whats the use case for lawbringer special ammo
hushed knoll
You literally want to put me in lag nasal p
blissful tendon
i have a habit of preloading for no reason
hushed knoll
Lasagna
blissful tendon
but that quite obviously isnt going too well
vocal pulsar
what in the world is this slang
zyn is some nicotine pouch zoomers put in their lip area
hushed knoll
Ok goodnight everyone
south folio
gnite
north sedge
Stan came so hard in helldivers earlier
south folio
zyn is some nicotine pouch zoomers put in their lip area
OwO a new thing to be addicted to
vocal pulsar
MANKAR stop the cringe
you are the kremlin king of cringe
ripe quest
whats the use case for lawbringer special ammo
Extra stagger and a wider, flat shot. It gets a bit more identity w/ man-stopper. Good for an intro shot into small elites or a crowd otherwise.
vocal pulsar
OwO a new thing to be addicted to
upper decky/decker refers to putting the pouch/dip in between upper teeth and lips
hushed knoll
you are the kremlin king of cringe
Ew I’m not a commie
blissful tendon
neat
ripe quest
Ew I’m not a commie
I am no longer a stan of Stan.
hushed knoll
What
coarse birch
this seemed pretty straightforward ngl
vocal pulsar
this seemed pretty straightforward ngl
ty for your honesty and not lying
coarse birch
your welcome mankar
ripe quest
If you knew my timezone you'd underStan ex-stanned Stan
vocal pulsar
your welcome mankar
you're*
hushed knoll
Goodnight
vocal pulsar
farewell
south folio
upper decky/decker refers to putting the pouch/dip in between upper teeth and li...
thank u for translating your gibberish
vocal pulsar
thank u for translating your gibberish
my gibberish?
vocal pulsar
its your generation
blissful tendon
what now
ripe quest
Ooh very nice
vocal pulsar
carapace to flak
blissful tendon
aight
south folio
you're only like 6 years older than me aren't you
fair igloo
south folio
you'd be a gen Z like me
coarse birch
tbf arco im your age and i knew what zyn was
ripe quest
you're only like 6 years older than me aren't you
See you at bingo.
south folio
i'm being attacked on multiple fronts
south folio
it took my entire brain to visually decode what that emoji actually is
south folio
tbf arco im your age and i knew what zyn was
i wish i could argue back but somehow i think even my housemates would know what zyn is
ripe quest
To add a new layer to it that is an anime rendition of a irl gun.
south folio
I am completely divorced from social media besides youtube, steam, or discord
south folio
prolly with youtube shorts
coarse birch
yeah that would be it
elfin steppe
I am completely divorced from social media besides youtube, steam, or discord
that's actually...good
coarse birch
i think the only social media i use that arco doesnt is reddit
unless like twitch counts
south folio
i used to be on reddit but i haven't gone onto it in like a year besides some one-off times
coarse birch
occasionally snapchat cause its what some of my friends are on
south folio
i don't do twitch either yeah
i have a favorite twitch streamer but he has a dedicated fanbase who makes compilations on youtube which i watch on there
coarse birch
i havent used twitter in a minute
fair igloo
sometimes friends ik just start using slang they 100% know is gibberish and i don't even know what platform of social media or like factory it was made in
royal vortex
I am completely divorced from social media besides youtube, steam, or discord
so based
fair igloo
i only use youtube/steam/discord cuz i forget every other platform exists 🙏
south folio
SO TRUE
coarse birch
i def have a very sane discord/steam daily use time
vocal pulsar
my fav thing is
when i have short downtime while working, like when im waiting for a customer to open the safe
i go on discord, check out darktide server
i see arco posted something
i barely read it
and just rate it the usual
🤡 🤓
coarse birch
thank you mankar
vocal pulsar
yw
south folio
and just rate it the usual
u little shit
south folio
ill read arocs messages and then think about giving him shit
u little shit
coarse birch
arco if it makes you feel better i think your cool
i just enjoy giving you shit
you also threaten to eat me so i think its fair
zealous basin
guys
coarse birch
hi flip
zealous basin
hi
south folio
you also threaten to eat me so i think its fair
OwO
coarse birch
OwO indeed
simple crane
hey is this chainsword any good?
elfin steppe
Sad, a perfect Evi ruined by shredder
blissful tendon
shouldnt that question have been asked like
before it got maxed
doesnt look like youre swimming in plasteel either
coarse birch
everything but shredder is good
simple crane
doesnt look like youre swimming in plasteel either
I upgraded a few other weapons beforehand for my other builds
coarse birch
you can rip rampage off though
elfin steppe
At least he got the T4 rampage.
ripe quest
hey is this chainsword any good?
You could also just use that until you get a better candidate. It's a lame dump stat but that'll still work.
delicate shadow
just never rev and you'll never notice 
simple crane
Sad, a perfect Evi ruined by shredder
I haven't played a lot of this game what is bad about shredder?
coarse birch
it affects your special damage
simple crane
ah I see
vocal pulsar
I haven't played a lot of this game what is bad about shredder?
just in case its not clear, he is referring to your shredder damage stat, which is low
which isnt great
simple crane
yeah suck that it's so low, is there any way to increase it?
vocal pulsar
roll another eviscerator
buy another grey one from brunt, the weapon store guy
weapon stats (the yellow bars) are fixed, and cannot be changed
weapon perks and blessings can be changed, but you can only change 2 of them
you can either change both perks, or both blessings, or one perk and one blessing
coarse birch
was he bort
royal vortex
he was javornicus
bort got netted, then un-netted, and ignored the trapper that had netted him
and got netted again
royal vortex
supahot joined late
coarse birch
if that was easy
royal vortex
if that was easy
coarse birch
lmao
i love shotgunners
that was a good knife on the dog though i would tried to swap and push
royal vortex
u can just bash
too
although tknives mostly let u get away with shit like that on disablers so long as u dont choke hard
coarse birch
yeah bash is just so far out of my muscle memory
royal vortex
i think with a bm weapon and incredibly specific setup you can make a brauto bash kill 4 groaners a swing
elfin steppe
I finally got carried
royal vortex
yeah bash is just so far out of my muscle memory
with how fucked up inputs are atm its more viable
simply because sometimes the game says that swap button u pressed is fictional
dusky mountain
what blessings and perks to use on the mk 4 thunder hammer
royal vortex
flak/unyielding
royal vortex
u want smth like this
with full slaught/sustained assault stacks it one shots maulers to the body
coarse birch
simply because sometimes the game says that swap button u pressed is fictional
i was playing with BB psyker today and i tried to swap and push fucking 15 times and it just kept trying to BB it
BB is the only thing i frequently have swapping issues withg
royal vortex
and with an activated attack you kill stuff on the way to the target so in mixed hordes you don't really need fancy setup stuff
royal vortex
i was playing with BB psyker today and i tried to swap and push fucking 15 times...
me playing an activation weapon with revolver
spontaneously pistol whipping poxwalkers
i also have issues where voidstrike will not FUCKING CAST
and it will get me beaten up because i am relying on the stagger to survive
coarse birch
i have issues with void not casting when i try to cast is and swap off at the same time
royal vortex
oh thats not like a server issue
there's a small period where u can swap after casting and not actually shoot the ball even at 100 peril
vocal pulsar
u want smth like this
Slaughterer 3 lmaoooooooloooooo
royal vortex
you have the maturity of a premature baby
vocal pulsar
Slaughterer 3
royal vortex
child.
hushed agate
Agghh
Just had the nastiest clutch of my life go down the dumpster
Why do people under level 30 insist on playing damnation
I dont know how people play this class without marty
little thicket
Im confused how people struggle on damn
little thicket
Nah but id expect them to be bad.
little thicket
I get bored on anything that isnt high int damn.
Not enough enemies to last for everyone usally.
hushed agate
Yeah
If im not cleaving through hundreds of poxwalkers a horde then im not having fun
ember yew
brunt is challenging me again
https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-amelia-shepherd-okay-ill-play-ill-play-i-will-play-gif-24818955
hushed agate
Maniac is good pray to god for a good blessing or perk
spare talon
Its horrible
It's honestly hard to notice for me, i only ever do when I get caught by the occasional trapper or dog and actually have a moment to stop and see what they're doing (mainly not helping me up)
hushed agate
Everyone in my party went down like 6 times each and died multiple times. I only ever went down right when we lost
Hard not for me to notice
spare talon
I wonder if it's because I'm solving problems faster than they can get hit with them, or if I'm just consistently getting teammates that are capable of not much else but self sustaining
royal vortex
south folio
boowomp
royal vortex
we've met him. john ogryn.
steep flame
when're we getting the loyalist moebian 6th cosmetics?
spare talon
A bulwark and the knife zealot that's endlessly swinging attacks at the shield
royal vortex
A bulwark and the knife zealot that's endlessly swinging attacks at the shield
me with the crusher
hushed agate
A bulwark and the knife zealot that's endlessly swinging attacks at the shield
Thats stupid stomping on his head would probably be worse
Silly animal
spare talon
me with the crusher
Knife zealot will get mad and tell you in chat they had it handled then will leave the match
hushed agate
After they wake a dh
steep flame
i didnt know the impirium actually had rocket launchers
hushed agate
Id assume they would
hushed agate
i didnt know the impirium actually had rocket launchers
steep flame
i assume thats mounted to something
steep flame
i assume thats mounted to something
sorta like a konkurs y'know?
delicate shadow
modernized to 1990
median steeple
I love Russia "modernizing" their tanks by throwing more ERA on them
fervent basin
ladies and gentlemen
mate how, I be getting none of that
lusty turtle
sorta like a konkurs y'know?
ye theres hunter killers that are mounted in an array of different setups
either rail launched, konkurs setup or like bradley tows
ember yew
mate how, I be getting none of that
just check the shop from time to time
sometimes something procs
fervent basin
just check the shop from time to time
gotcha
hollow mantle
thats how I got my current heavy sword
just
showed up in the shop with 25 maniac on it
ember yew
im buying some sht there like this one too
overall this weapon is garbage
its fun to use, but its weak and extremely low on ammo
hollow mantle
might as well have it in case they buff it though
hollow mantle
I spent so much time and plasteel trying to get the perfect heavy sword
and then
this just popped into the shop
ember yew
i know how my favorite dev Fartshart operates
hollow mantle
yeeeee
half of the shit in my inventory I keep just in case
they will buff stuff eventually
right
...
blissful tendon
mission drop sigh
zealous basin
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
royal vortex
i think the worst part about warren is that teammates can make the map feel infinitely worse
this is my 2nd lobby today where at least 2 players are just dragging their fucking feet to do anything on this map
had an ogryn who didnt leave the first floor of the end event until i was at the end
acoustic dune
does anyone know if tier 4 blaze away works or not
acoustic dune
well it does in a different way
zealous basin
acoustic dune
Cant do anything about fatshark balancing skills, sry
fuck balancing i wanna feel like god
lusty turtle
Cant do anything about fatshark balancing skills, sry
just click heads smh
royal vortex
does anyone know if tier 4 blaze away works or not
it's great at being nonexistent
hollow mantle
the monsterous specials maelstroms have been wack tonight
almost got a 2nd 1mil damage game
but we died before could get there
lots of smite only psykers showing up to purple lightning the bosses 😂
delicate shadow
The tickle torture method
royal vortex
lots of smite only psykers showing up to purple lightning the bosses 😂
smite psykers need to learn about voidstrike
the power is right there
stable cypress
As if typical smite psykers ever gonna learn anything
royal vortex
i believe in them
frosty herald
Since when does voidstrike stagger bosses
fading vale
void bad
royal vortex
much easier with surge
royal vortex
dude they gave it a relatively irrelevant cara adm nerf
stable cypress
All they know is hold poxwalkers in place and die
royal vortex
but u can still one shot crushers
(with somewhat ideal conditions)
and ppl were just like NO MORE
back to surge staff
fading vale
and there is some psyker talent for crits on headshots right
royal vortex
yup
fading vale
that makes you crit all the time
royal vortex
5 headshots = guaranteed ranged crit
fading vale
that's silly
royal vortex
yeah lmao
esp with ciag where it has a crit string of 4
and u can juice crit chance on any psyker staff with warp nexus + crit chance nodes/aura
stable cypress
Yeah people finally realized true aim is kinda busted
royal vortex
54% ranged crit rate dont look at weakspot percentage idk what happened here
1 million (actually 900k but it looks cooler) damage with void
fading vale
when are you getting heckdivers josho
fading vale
very funny game
royal vortex
i have heard good things
fading vale
most of my deaths have been team kills so far and it doesn't feel bad lol
royal vortex
hell yeah
long sluice
Helldivers 2 feeling good? I no longer buy games within the first 3 months ofaunch out of principle. Wait to see how they really are.
fading vale
it's a good game
does have an occasional crash and you probably want friends
but is fun
frosty herald
Get skull and bones
coarse birch
josho shouldnt you be sleeping
royal vortex
yea
frozen glen
helldivers 2
bitter anvil
Starship Troopers extermination
calm salmon
SST:E was such a massive dissapointment
lusty turtle
and ppl were just like NO MORE
that IS the usualy psyker chat reaction to any changes
calm salmon
basically just classic OWI
lusty turtle
they will claim buffs are nerfs
calm salmon
bad performance, really weird design choices
literally no way to communicate with the team without a mic on release
bugs just feel like hp pinatas
SSTE makes me saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
violet lichen
i want one thunder hammer but i keep getting godly rolls on the other one 
bitter anvil
literally no way to communicate with the team without a mic on release
They making revamp class
They post blog diary each class revamp class
lusty turtle
soon
if u have an AMD card (idk if u do) wait a bit, its on stingray so its got about as many launch issues as darktide did 💀
lusty turtle
in that case u just have to deal with the connection issues and other crashes
royal vortex
i got through dt i can withstand anything
lusty turtle
damn josho gonna play payday 3
royal vortex
alright "anything" has some exceptions
bitter anvil
I prefer wait payday 3 cook
bitter anvil
I heard the game crash sometime or frequently on review?
calm salmon
They post blog diary each class revamp class
guess I'm waiting for that then
I still don't have a ton of hope or anything though.
bitter anvil
guess I'm waiting for that then
Just let the game cook
calm salmon
OWI abandoning squad's gameplay loop was a really bad decision in my opinion.
There absolutely should have been a commander role
bitter anvil
Arma 3 
calm salmon
Ammunition drops, building material drops, combat ordinance
and a bunch more stuff that Squad already has but OWI said "naw dog, this game really doesn't need any of that"
which is insane to me
bitter anvil
You love squad?
calm salmon
love is a stretch
violet lichen
hell let loose has the best squad/commander setup imo
calm salmon
Its too reliant on competent teammates
violet lichen
in tht genre
calm salmon
But the actual commander role is fine for a pick-up-on-the-weekends deal
its not too hard to understand, easy to learn, offers enough to make mastering it feel rewarding
bitter anvil
Holdfast nation at war is comedy commander and squad
calm salmon
and firebombing bugs in the morning is a starship troopers pastime
and is distinctly missing in SSTE
bitter anvil
Oh you want commander class in sste?
calm salmon
Not. . . class per se
like it'd have to be yeah
probably just a pistol
and a different outfit
But something that allows players to use the sky part of SSTE
human logistics and shit
We have planes that can drop bombs in the SST universe
but OWI is like. . . naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
calm salmon
I've been bastion since the game released
bitter anvil
Same
bitter anvil
I love bastions
bitter anvil
Oh you know it…
calm salmon
the SAW is incredibly bad. Like infuriatingly bad. The best form of crowd control is killing the crowd. And the SAW is outright incapable of that, and the "stun" mechanic of SSTE is so poorly implemented that its just an outright bad weapon because it can't even reliably stun bugs
lavish flame
I liked the saw tbh
bitter anvil
Lol
bitter anvil
Is that carbine?
calm salmon
Mk1 Morita
bitter anvil
Aye
calm salmon
chambered in 7.62x51 NATO
but yeah, that specific gif has been relevant to like. . . four conversations I've had so far
and I had to always google it instead of discord gif search bar
bitter anvil
I use carbine in the game since they are not that high recoil for me
bitter anvil
So the saw has less recoil?
calm salmon
yeah, finally.
bitter anvil
Good
lavish flame
Mhm
calm salmon
I'm not burnt out per se
but I just wasn't super happy with the product as it released
calm salmon
the performance on release was the biggest killer for me
bitter anvil
True
calm salmon
30fps if I was lucky
bitter anvil
Their road map said they gonna work on performance In later quarter iirc
bitter anvil
That’s bad?
calm salmon
Just like everyone else these days.
No, DLSS and FSR are fine for what they do.
But devs just use it to fix performance instead of optimizing under the hood
by forcing players to play at false screen resolutions
calm salmon
Its supposed to be a way to go from like 100-144 fps to a solid 144fps
but devs use it to go from 25-35fps to ~50-60fps
Screen downscaling and then re-upscaling
bitter anvil
Hmmm
calm salmon
So say you have a 4k monitor
it'll downscale frames to 1080p
then rescale them back to 4k
for pretty decent performance gains, but devs use it to deal with unplayable frame rates instead of getting people at high frames to higher ones
like I outright cannot play darktide without FSR on for example because I get 25-30fps without it, and 50-60fps with it on
for a game that outright doesn't look good enough or is complex enough for that kind of bad performance
I'd expect that from a Crysis game
bitter anvil
Hmmm
calm salmon
as that's their whole schtick. Push the absolute boundaries of performance on modern hardware
bitter anvil
So it require resource of hardware?
calm salmon
I'd expect that from a Crysis game
Crysis 3 still looks amazing, though Crysis 1 remaster is uh. . . well don't turn on physics
bitter anvil
Right
fading vale
basically it's either a model that is trained to upscale game images or it's a more advanced method of older image upscaling that usually uses dedicated hardware on the GPU
frosty herald
Dont optimize a game but use hardware tools to make it run ok enough
steep flame
steep flame
Sorry
calm salmon
lmao its all good
fading vale
crysis 2 and 3 don't exist
calm salmon
hey I had a lot of fun with Crysis 2 and 3
fading vale
NOT MY CRYSIS
frosty herald
Stuff like amd fsr and nvidia dlss were meant to give a boost to performance not to be mandatory to run the game at a playable framerate
steep flame
Crysis 2 is a banger
fading vale
fucking turned crysis into cod console bullshit
steep flame
Crysis 3 kinda sucks though
calm salmon
But yeah, FSR/DLSS should be for the smoothing of frame rates at 100+
or say you get like 70 fps but drops to 50
FSR/DLSS should be bumping you to a solid 70
but its used to go from sub 30 to 45-60
and devs just call it a day there
bitter anvil
I think I need research DLSS more understanding
fading vale
But yeah, FSR/DLSS *should* be for the smoothing of frame rates at 100+
this is how I configure my settings usually, and have to on a 4090....
unless it's like cyberpunk with max settings and RTX stuff
then I get like 100 max with DLSS
but that looks good enough and has enough shiny knobs turned on that I don't mind
calm salmon
I can give games like Palworld a pass for not being able to push higher than 60fps on my 1080ti because fuckin early access from a dev team that's barely made anything before
its just pain when "triple A" games like Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk run like literal dogshit without a bunch of shit like fsr/dlss tacked on - though Witcher 3 did the actual optimization route because it came out before FSR/DLSS existed
frosty herald
Cyberpunk also has some path tracing and better performance mods
Witcher 3 complete edition sucks ass
calm salmon
and CDPR did finally get cyberpunk to an acceptable performance baseline
fading vale
I mean I would say cyberpunk runs fine at this point in time
frosty herald
That edition is so goddamn broken
calm salmon
I mean I would say cyberpunk runs fine at this point in time
yeah, just took them two years
kudos and props or whatever
but damn cdpr
calm salmon
much like darktide
Pretty much been my opinion. "This game released two years too early"
fading vale
at least darktide more or less nailed the combat and overall game feel
even in a fucked state
ember yew
at least darktide more or less nailed the combat and overall game feel
i like it more than VT2 due to constant switch/mix between melee and ranged
fading vale
helldivers has been quite fun
royal vortex
dt scratches a brain itch no other game really does
calm salmon
gun does damage for once?
nerf the shit out of it
fading vale
and it runs fairly well
calm salmon
Fatshark is a lot more uh. . . scalpely
fading vale
even without DLSS
calm salmon
give or take
royal vortex
Fatshark is a lot more uh. . . scalpely
they ruined the game when they nerfed psword. you know it's true SMH
calm salmon
Darktide 2.0 or whatever we're calling the oct 4 skill tree overhaul is a different beast but like
they touched literally everything
but a few weapons
so I can give them a pass for the current state of the game
royal vortex
p13/14 put quite a bit of life into the game
ember yew
but it is now back to pre-p13
fading vale
man they haven't announced anything in like 2 months now
celest oasis
I wouldn't have done this if the combat weren't *so fucking good*
People can say what they want about Fatshark and their questionable decisions but they are genuinely fucking good at what they do.
Not other game can match Vt2 or Darktide in terms of gameplay. Not B4B, Drg or L4D.
royal vortex
those numbers are significantly better than most of pre-13 dt
and this is kinda how tide games go for the most part so im not like super worried or anything
fading vale
if I had discovered VT2 before DT I might have liked it
calm salmon
yeah, pre-13 had drops to less than 3000 players on weeknights
royal vortex
the numbers were closer to 2k im p sure
calm salmon
so while the numbers are better now, they're still not stellar
but they line up nearly perfectly with VT2's playercount
fading vale
but trying it after playing DT it just feels like baby DT
royal vortex
i know that vt2 is cool and fairly technical at the higher levels
calm salmon
VT2's player count has pretty much always been what it is
which is to say
darktide's
royal vortex
in ways that dt isn't
royal vortex
but i legitimately just cannot get into it
ember yew
yeah
calm salmon
you're slow in VT2
royal vortex
the weapons all feel and sound off from what i want
ember yew
vt2 is stable at 3-5k average
royal vortex
i dont even think the speed is the main thing that gets me
fading vale
it just doesnt make the brain feel nice in the same way
calm salmon
The movement of VT2 is just objectively worse.
And that's hard to adjust to coming from DT
fading vale
every mechanic in DT just feels better
calm salmon
Its still a very, very fun game.
royal vortex
i actually kind of like that dodges are less forgiving in vt2 purely because you get away with some absolutely absurd roach shit in dt
frosty herald
Vt2 and darktide are 2 fundamentaly different games in terms of combat
calm salmon
But yeah, the evolution from VT2 to DT makes VT2 hard to revisit
Which is why I just focused on getting everyone to 30 but sienna in VT2
and then stuck with IBB Bardin
royal vortex
but then again u also have other weird issues with movement like playing without twbs vs reapers
calm salmon
because you can just ignore the game mechanics
And people are actually happy to see me on IB Bardin now
fading vale
but then again u also have other weird issues with movement like playing without...
player stagger and suppression can get fucked, it is known
calm salmon
thanks Fatshark for buffing Outcast Engineer through the roof
royal vortex
every mechanic in DT just *feels* better
i recognize that for at least me part of this is none of my characters are properly geared out
and most arent levelled
calm salmon
Now people auto-kick you for playing OE because he's too good
royal vortex
so im stuck playing the Shitty™️ part of tide games
fading vale
i recognize that for at least me part of this is none of my characters are prope...
well, a lot of it for me is the combat feedback I guess, not nearly as good
calm salmon
but then again u also have other weird issues with movement like playing without...
I still maintain that TWBS is just a massive crutch
ember yew
but then again u also have other weird issues with movement like playing without...
these days i just incorporate TWBS in every build, even tho the temptation to go yolo damage is high
royal vortex
well, a lot of it for me is the combat feedback I guess, not nearly as good
yea the weapons don't feel as visceral
fading vale
still a massive crutch
ok mr caxe hsword bullshit weapon user
calm salmon
ok mr caxe hsword bullshit weapon user
i use mk15 eviscerator on zealot now
exclusively
update your insults please and thanks
fading vale
ok mr braindead weapon user
ember yew
calm salmon
I do use throwing knives at least
so I can always clip shit that'll make josho's dopamine go up
calm salmon
but yeah, I'm an eviscerator main now because mk15 is just fun
though I use momentum on it
and it makes people's blood boil
calm salmon
rampage/momentum my beloved
ember yew
though I use momentum on it
i never been able to get rampage/shred
so i used that one too
fading vale
momentum is goated
ember yew
infinite toughness
royal vortex
i had someone try to tell me perfect strike was the ideal mk15 blessing
calm salmon
while the old guard is like "makes sense"
ember yew
its cleaves way too easy
and since it does NOT oneshot
you regen insane amount of toughness
fading vale
new players just want to not play the game and run crit CDR and spam ability and act like they learned how to play the game
royal vortex
i genuinely wonder what kind of scenarios u are getting into
where u need to cleave like 6 crushers for 30 damage
royal vortex
new players just want to not play the game and run crit CDR and spam ability and...
back in my day u ran crit cdr almost exclusively on all the shitty weapons
calm salmon
new players just want to not play the game and run crit CDR and spam ability and...
This is the one upside to ogryn being the least played class
the people who play him regularly are actually good at the game
even if his whole kit right now is "I do everything"
ember yew
casual people want your default pewpew call of duty veteran
calm salmon
I just tell them to use HP curios
it'll help randos out more
because they're awful at managing toughness
fading vale
royal vortex
u are the reason my shout vets arent bringing field improv SMH
fading vale
field improv, the best aura in the game
calm salmon
I use it on ALL of my vet builds
ember yew
royal vortex
i dont run it in pubs anymore tbf
royal vortex
because i dont use vet nades all that much unless i bring kraks with 2 weapons that do not deal with bulwarks well
calm salmon
and that makes my dopamine go up
calm salmon
ember yew
bullying
calm salmon
I always feel bad playing ogryn
not because I'm bad at it
but because I take all of the ammo on the map
Like, actively hurting vets with no trigger control taking all of the ammo on the map
helps they're not looting at least
ember yew
watch the clip
javor saves the day
royal vortex
https://streamable.com/sy3y0g
lmfao
bitter anvil
I remember there’s ogryn call out teammate with r slur
royal vortex
this is one of my worst fuckups EVER
fading vale
somehow I fucked about for 7 minutes and lived
royal vortex
i only actually died because i ate an overhead in stealth trying to revive the psyker
ember yew
looking at HP bars, today i went in with usual judgment build, but purity aura and SoC instead
probably gonna use that for awhile
randoms seems to die less, tho im gonna miss until death
royal vortex
i will regularly out ranged-damage columnus iag pubs using the columnus brauto
so like
take all the ammo u need big guy
these ppl dont know what the hell theyre doing anyways
bitter anvil
>700 ammo picked up
Gunlugger hungry with ammo
calm salmon
Gunlugger hungry with ammo
actually not this time
that was ripper mk2
on my bullrush build
calm salmon
rippers are really bad now, but they're THE MOST FUN gun to shoot in the game
ember yew
i will regularly out ranged-damage columnus iag pubs using the columnus brauto
i dont understand why people use columnus V over II
calm salmon
so like
ember yew
2 can kill like 80% more elites per clip
calm salmon
I'm stuck in between a rock and a hard place as a player who likes visceral feedback in games
which is why I'm a machine gun main in every game
loud noise make dopamine go up
royal vortex
ciag gets fucking BOOSTED finesse
calm salmon
loud noise going on forever really make dopamine go up
royal vortex
so on a crit build or if u hit any amount of headshots it just shits out damage
but i bring a brauto because i can kill anything from bruisers to maulers with decent efficiency in 1 mag and its nice for just kinda blasting
calm salmon
M1919 Browning, MG34, MG42, Space AKs with large magazines, RPK with 95 round drum mags, RPD with 100 round magazine, M240, M249, PKP w/ 100 round box mag, PKM with 100 round box magazine
for real life stuff in video games
and then ogryn stubbers/rippers for darktide specifics
give me the hilariously loud guns with large magazines or beeg damage
ember yew
but i bring a brauto because i can kill anything from bruisers to maulers with d...
pretty much this
calm salmon
but i bring a brauto because i can kill anything from bruisers to maulers with d...
i treat brautos like I do the gorgo stubber
I usually run out of ammo way too quickly
royal vortex
honestly u can get away with some brauto hordeclear
ember yew
yeah, especially on 2
bitter anvil
which is why I'm a machine gun main in every game
You are Dakka shoota?
calm salmon
I just forget sometimes. The whole "whoooo shoot shoot shoot" is too fun for me
bitter anvil
I am also dakka shoota on vet too
royal vortex
for bruisers in particular its nice because u kinda just ignore their gigantic hitmass relative to other trash enemies
calm salmon
I like the agrip brauto. its a solid gun.
ember yew
out of 3 Brautos Graia felt the most "meh" to me, but maybe il do some tests with it later
calm salmon
I just need to work on my trigger control.
Graia is bad.
Its DPS buff was nice.
But its still dps, not alpha.
frank night
Do not listen to this man
bitter anvil
Graia is bad.
: ( oh
calm salmon
So you run into problems with no stagger
frosty herald
I love magdumping the graia
calm salmon
and enemies just running away from you
fading vale
I mean I used an agri brauto and memed holding m1 80% of the game with a survivalist vet and never ran out of ammo
bitter anvil
Graia is my space m249 gun
royal vortex
Do not listen to this man
what
calm salmon
which is the biggest problem of the recon lasguns, for another example.
low damage guns should have the highest stagger
and you can't change my mind
ember yew
should do some lasguns for memes
calm salmon
so they can actually use their DPS
watching enemies run away from you and not dying because they got into cover is infuriating
frosty herald
When you use graia brauto alongside judgement it has the fastest firing speed in the game
Actual bullet hose
fading vale
crabs take on recons: delete them