Please point me in the direction of the head angels
#zealot-class
violet hornet
coarse birch
Fr
hushed knoll
I have an extensive collection, I love reading owo
hushed knoll
Please point me in the direction of the head angels
ripe quest
Lmao just saw a reddit thread saying knife was better at pissblade for crowd clear
coarse birch
Aint no way
coarse birch
Surely its satire
ripe quest
Power sword
hushed knoll
Why is it called pissblade
coarse birch
Get with the program stan
ripe quest
Surely its satire
There were so many people saying it and multiple people had super short fuses for arguing so probs not.
coarse birch
Man
hushed knoll
I blame exhillious
violet hornet
Knife users cannot hear a valid argument over the sound of their furious clicking to attack
ripe quest
Like I saw "Mk VI powersword can 2 shot a crusher sure but it's slow as shit" and "we all know knife is a crutch weapon for players who are bad at the game"
north sedge
hushed knoll
NO WHAT THE FUCK
north sedge
Lol
jolly trail
I‘m a stud. I‘m ballsy. I clear my hordes with a devils claw.
ripe quest
That's what the Dclaw is meant for yeah
coarse birch
I see emily coins didn't stick this time
north sedge
Knife is easily the weapon people are most delusional about, anyway unrelated, glad there's no official scoreboard
north sedge
I see emily coins didn't stick this time
I never went with coins cause he said this immediately after
coarse birch
Ah i missed that
hushed knoll
Can we not talk about knife so Dough doesn't feel tempted to make any more The Shining blood elevator memes
north sedge
Nah they just straight up don't know how bad they're doing most of the time
jolly trail
Its a shame friendly fire isnt a thing. It would totally make matches harder, but it WOULD let me shoot knife users for fun
coarse birch
Regardless of level
north sedge
Dunno
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/on-my-period-time-of-the-month-bloody-gif-13504844
😒
The Shining freaks me out
Like with the bear sex
coarse birch
Well the shining is kinda meant to freak you out
north sedge
Like with the bear sex
hushed knoll
Not that kind of bear sex
peak whale
hushed knoll
Well the shining is kinda meant to freak you out
Says the man named Lemon Inheritance
peak whale
finally got my meme zealot to level 30
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/sweet-sassy-molassy-gif-25074369
I HATE THIS
peak whale
now i just need actual good mallet thunderhammer
coarse birch
Says the man named Lemon Inheritance
What does that have to do with it lol
hushed knoll
What does that have to do with it lol
Don't play coy with me
drifting wolf
jolly trail
Oh god its awful
hushed knoll
Is that a weapon from Starfield or fallout 4
coarse birch
P sure thats fallout
hushed agate
I like fallout guns they look neat
open pollen
Is that a weapon from Starfield or fallout 4
Unfortunatly, starfield guns don't look anywhere near as good.
oak ermine
I like fallout guns they look neat
Assault rifle should be smitten from the Earth
hushed agate
I kinda like that gun too
hushed knoll
Unfortunatly, starfield guns don't look anywhere near as good.
Have you solved any cases recenty
faint vapor
To be fair, I do like the look of the Grenade Machineguns
I wish they added more explosive options like they did in FNV
open pollen
Have you solved any cases recenty
No, I am working on a real tough one at the moment. Someone beheaded a sledgehammer and left the head in some bushes. Still havn't found the body.
hushed knoll
No, I am working on a real tough one at the moment. Someone beheaded a sledgeham...
Are you sure the sledgehammer didn't have it coming? They can be pretty volatile
north sedge
stan just learned what private eye means
hushed knoll
Dough stop doxxing me 
north sedge
doxxed!
ripe quest
Knife is easily the weapon people are most delusional about, anyway unrelated, g...
There not being an official soundboard means I can make my own Darktide-related soundboards and no one will be able to stop me.
also I enjoy that my last couple pings have been wtf pings
3 of which are stan
hushed knoll
Exhillious I missed you
ripe quest
Exhillious I missed you <:PES_Cry:493359762432327691>
stan I'm literally never gone
If you ping me I'm no more than 8 hours away from a response
north sedge
ripe quest
Josho keeps saying you're on clandestine missions
One of these days I might be stan. You just never know.
hushed knoll
Do you prefer saltines or oyster crackers
north sedge
saltines generally
north sedge
both?
hushed knoll
ripe quest
Do you put them in your soup or just eat them
Sometimes I'll eat a box and then be told it's unhealthy for a multitude of reasons
faint vapor
Eat another box
hushed knoll
I'm still unsure of how to eat them
faint vapor
The Emperor protects
hushed knoll
Idk if I put them in the soup or just eat them
ripe quest
After a certain rate of consumption you wouldn't be able to drink enough water to keep up
ripe quest
Idk if I put them in the soup or just eat them
Dip them in the soup and then eat them
faint vapor
After a certain rate of consumption you wouldn't be able to drink enough water t...
That's a problem for weaker, lesser beings
fading vale
DIPPINGS DIPPINGS DIPPINGS
fading vale
Laz what are your thoughts on chicken noddle soup
fading vale
it's chicken noddles
fading vale
idk chicken noodle soup is never something I would go out of my way for
hushed knoll
Do you like soup
fading vale
I don't have any issue with soup just don't really eat a lot of soup
hushed knoll
An interesting theory 
fading vale
chicken noodle boring as hell though
hushed knoll
Panera's autumn butter nut squash soup slaps
My friend just texted my friend group "I'm peeing myself" with no context
north sedge
better than shitting himself i guess
hushed knoll
Oh the context is that an annoying coworker is getting fired
hushed knoll
better than shitting himself i guess
Is it?
fading vale
I'll pee myself when fatshark releases any news
north sedge
spare talon
I'll pee myself when fatshark releases any news
will you send proof?
fading vale
will you send proof?
I will not
hushed knoll
Put police tape around a designsted piss corner ™️
Oh I guess that's your bathroom
Nvm
north sedge
lol
spare talon
i feel so great after helping this guy i met in pubs, seems he got some really shit advice from people he thought knew what they were talking about until he loaded into a mission with me where i was able to explain why those things were bad, and what other options he could consider and why
he was told the infantry MG IV lasguns was the best vet weapon for example, and he told me he was so confused why it wasnt doing what he was told it would do
i dont think this guy knows how accurate this statement is
ivory marlin
Hi cole
exotic portal
ripe quest
I'll pee myself when fatshark releases any news
24 hours until laz pisses himself
obtuse stirrup
i feel so great after helping this guy i met in pubs, seems he got some really s...
Is the IV bad then? I heard it was one of the better ones now, equal with Ia :/
ripe quest
It's fine but far from Vet's best weapon.
obtuse stirrup
Haven't tried either because I'm still scarred by how terrible they used to be
quasi marsh
honestly I struggle to see the appeal of them in general vs the v7 HH
obtuse stirrup
Ah, k
fleet zealot
Is the IV bad then? I heard it was one of the better ones now, equal with Ia :/
Ia is strictly better
obtuse stirrup
honestly I struggle to see the appeal of them in general vs the v7 HH
Fancy Sci fi weapons
fleet zealot
honestly I struggle to see the appeal of them in general vs the v7 HH
same
obtuse stirrup
Ia is strictly better
Good to know.
fleet zealot
the headhunters and IAGs simply slap
and i never liked the aesthetic of las anyways
obtuse stirrup
Compared with Laspistols?
fleet zealot
Compared with Laspistols?
headhunter deadly accurate vs dumdum+whatever
idk how I would quantify it as a non vet main
ripe quest
I still think the XII is the better of the three just simply due to easier BPs and it being able to shit out it's total damage a bit faster.
fleet zealot
but I feel you can pump the top end of a inflas more than you can the las pistol
fleet zealot
but zealot likes las pistol
ripe quest
But the IV vs. the Ia is if you want higher total ammo vs. higher dps
fleet zealot
cause it's great baseline
calm lotus
I dunno why, but the Relic has been my go-to ult ever since I tried it. I even managed to push a Daemonhost off a ledge into the abyss with it.
quasi marsh
12 is literally just "i wish i was v7 HH" tbh
i dont think it really does anything better
obtuse stirrup
I don't like how weak laspistols feel tbh, I don't want to have to triple click a head
ripe quest
on vet at least, 12 doesnt hit any meaningful bp over 1a
You sure? Depending on the armor type it's hitting up to 50% harder.
obtuse stirrup
On Zealot I can't stop using a Zarona, because I love to reload during a etc etc etc
faint vapor
I still think the XII is the better of the three just simply due to easier BPs a...
I think the MG La is better because Hadron hasn't given me a good Mk12 since release 😎
I have unironically spent millions of dockets and over a hundred thousand plasteel
granted this is in totality
quasi marsh
You sure? Depending on the armor type it's hitting up to 50% harder.
neither can oneshot gunner w/o crit
unless you exec
obtuse stirrup
The trouble with execution stance
quasi marsh
its why i say it just wishes it was v7 HH
obtuse stirrup
Is everything about execution stance
ripe quest
12 is literally just "i wish i was v7 HH" tbh
For most armor types they're about similar in terms of damage but Lasguns have worse Flak performance in exchange for better Maniac damage. Also just a completely different type of ammo economy.
obtuse stirrup
Because it is a clunky piece of shit of an ability
That wishes it was half as cool as Scrier's Gaze
open pollen
Are you sure the sledgehammer didn't have it coming? They can be pretty volatile
Motive at the time remains unknown. But it wouldn't surprise me if a wall somewhere got tired of being beaten down and decided to do some "remodeling" of its own.
quasi marsh
For most armor types they're about similar in terms of damage but Lasguns have w...
v7 HH can still oneshot all maniacs besides ragers
ripe quest
unless you exec
Is it a case of one of them hits the BP with exec or do both.
obtuse stirrup
The burden of not having an INCOMPARABLE MIND again.
quasi marsh
since it has surg unlike the infantry las you can actually rely on it too
hushed knoll
Motive at the time remains unknown. But it wouldn't surprise me if a wall somewh...
Do walls usually snap like this
open pollen
Do walls usually snap like this
Walls only break when you hit them hard enough
How hard depends on the wall
hushed knoll
Why don't you arrest all the walls you see just to be sure
quasi marsh
also v7 basically has bottomless ammo as well
u can run non-surv if you dont care about your team and only pick up a few ammo a game
open pollen
That's structural profiling, and it goes against precinct policy.
I already lost my medical license, I don't want to lose my badge too
ripe quest
Both Lasguns and HHs are solid with ammo.
hushed knoll
I already lost my medical license, I don't want to lose my badge too
How did you lose your medical license
open pollen
I paid $100 for the Starfield Deluxe edition
hushed knoll
And that makes you lose your license?
open pollen
Yes. Frankly, I got off lightly. Should have served time for that one.
obtuse stirrup
How did you lose your medical license
When the patient woke up, his skeleton was missing, and the doctor was never heard from again
hushed knoll
Why has Bethesda gone from making some of the greatest games to shitting the bed
ripe quest
Oh actually, one thing that might lean into Lasguns a bit is that they have higher finesse. Not sure how much it skews it but if the damage is already similar you can probs pump it up higher.
north sedge
faint vapor
Yes. Frankly, I got off lightly. Should have served time for that one.
Patient waking up in an ice bath UwU
light holly
Why has Bethesda gone from making some of the greatest games to shitting the bed
Because most of their games were actually pretty mid
hushed knoll
NO
light holly
😌
open pollen
Why has Bethesda gone from making some of the greatest games to shitting the bed
You ever hear of the Ship of Thesus? Same thing happens to developers all the time.
Especially with there being so many "Stress Casualties" in the industry
quasi marsh
Oh actually, one thing that might lean into Lasguns a bit is that they have high...
js
even if you run unarmored/flak
quasi marsh
u literally just cant oneshot gunners with 12
its not even close (without a crit)
so that alone already really hurts it compared to v7
open pollen
Not to mention cyclical hiring. One way to never make a good game again is to fire all your talent every 5 years
quasi marsh
i dont think it kill rager much faster either as long as you can click heads
only problem with v7 is its very feast or famine
all the dmg is in the finesse values
so if ur bodyshotting its kinda trash
obtuse stirrup
Bethesda have never been wholly great
Actually they're quite comparable to Fatshark imo
Elements that are so good you can forgive the jank
But by the Emperor, the jank is real
I think Fatshark tends towards being more fun imo
north sedge
they've historically been very ambitious but alot of jank, which is forgiven because of the ambition, starfield lacked ambition
faint vapor
I think Fatshark tends towards being more fun imo
stares at crafting system
obtuse stirrup
Why worry about ambition when you can re-release the same game for 100 different systems for a decade though
open pollen
they've historically been very ambitious but alot of jank, which is forgiven bec...
counterpoint: starfield had too much ambition. It's a mile wide and an inch deep.
obtuse stirrup
*stares at crafting system*
Yes, that would be the jank
spare talon
i just got ledged from a teammate barrelling me
didnt get rescued because the 3 poswalkers were of more importance
then all of them died within 15 seconds of me being left to die
hushed knoll
counterpoint: starfield had too much ambition. It's a mile wide and an inch deep...
Wait I just realized your hammer has a stethoscope
Do detectives carry Syria
open pollen
I use it to solve crimes
hushed knoll
Stethoscopes
north sedge
the problem from what i gather that most people had was that it very much more of the same and shallower in terms of environment
faint vapor
i just got ledged from a teammate barrelling me
didnt get rescued because the 3 ...
You learn quick that you absolutely cannot die with randos
hushed knoll
I use it to solve crimes
How
open pollen
I hold it up to a suspects chest to see if they're lying to me
spare talon
You learn quick that you absolutely cannot die with randos
i know that, if im down once the mission is already lost
obtuse stirrup
i just got ledged from a teammate barrelling me
didnt get rescued because the 3 ...
Sounds like you were stuck with a bunch of heretical scunners
quasi marsh
ok slight correction
spare talon
i can accept that
hushed knoll
I hold it up to a suspects chest to see if they're lying to me
I don't think that's how it works
ripe quest
i dont think it kill rager much faster either as long as you can click heads
I'll have a look at them later. Currently working through Zealot weapons rn. On paper the XII Lasgun and the VII HH are super similar with certain key differences that still kinda seem to equal them out.
quasi marsh
dreg you can oneshot with +unarmored but you have to be about 15m~
spare talon
but i cannot accept when its solely due to the actions of my team
open pollen
More accurate than a lie detector. I have never had a false positive on a houseplant.
hushed knoll
Houseplants don't have hearts
quasi marsh
much more strict than v7 where you can hipfire it and it still os bp
open pollen
Exactly. They also don't tell lies
faint vapor
but i cannot accept when its solely due to the actions of my team
Randoms are why I wholeheartedly believe bots are better than players
quasi marsh
I'll have a look at them later. Currently working through Zealot weapons rn. On ...
there's one othe rproblem too
v7 has no sway after dodge
mg12 does
makes it annoying to use as well
open pollen
So one failing a lie detector test casts doubt on the machine, not the plant.
ripe quest
much more strict than v7 where you can hipfire it and it still os bp
The XII has a better hipfire profile than the VII HH
quasi marsh
at the ranges you hipfire iether of them, 12 suffers from inverse dmg falloff
ripe quest
The Lasguns are plagued by some handling stuff, hard to use on non-Vet classes without the suppression immunity node.
quasi marsh
so its not much of a benefit
the v7 hipfires fine anyway as long as you're not spamming it
which you really shouldnt be on either anyway
not having surg also hurts the 12 a lot tbh
ripe quest
so its not much of a benefit
You were just arguing that the VII has the upside w/ hipfiring. I'm just keeping it fair.
quasi marsh
i cant rely on it for the critical bps
quasi marsh
You were just arguing that the VII has the upside w/ hipfiring. I'm just keeping...
i was talking in th context of dropping gunners
with OS bp
i dont think you need to spam to hit their heads
its perfectly accurate on the first shot so as long as you let the recoil reset you can still drop a lot in a row
hushed knoll
You were just arguing that the VII has the upside w/ hipfiring. I'm just keeping...
What would you do if you were hiking and suddenly your boots got stuck in sticky tar
light holly
Oblivion???
Pea soup simulator?
I'm kidding I loved oblivion, but damn
faint vapor
What would you do if you were hiking and suddenly your boots got stuck in sticky...
Press F to charge clearly
light holly
The combat was mid
The gamd survived off pure writing
hushed knoll
It was 2006
light holly
And maybe I'm being tough but that's just what Bethesda had
Yeah
I mean I played hundreds of hours
ripe quest
dreg you can oneshot with +unarmored but you have to be about 15m~
You can point blank but it requires a build with it in mind.
Seems easier to just stack crit chance for a general use build.
quasi marsh
You can point blank but it requires a build with it in mind.
fair
ripe quest
I'm also not using +Unarmored or an ult
Though for Scab Gunners you need +Flak
or an active buff up
quasi marsh
how?
im 200 dmg short
unless ur using kill zone
all dmg buffs taken on the tree ofc
or MF keystone stacks*
ripe quest
Point blank, using MF
quasi marsh
i dont count using MF
not that its bad
but relying it for BP sounds scuffed
also means you cant take focus target + stam node to fuel more crits for crit bps
like if u count using MF then i'd say v7 can OS BP both ragers
obtuse solstice
man rashad ruined me, everything else feels so ass now
ripe quest
Without MF you would require an ult.
quasi marsh
yeah
that's what i meant
its just extra hoops to jump through
and in the end neither gun can OS both ragers without help from something conditional
neither gun is good against carapace either (though v7 is a little better actually lol)
there's just not really an edge for 12
ripe quest
and in the end neither gun can OS both ragers without help from something condit...
Yeah it would require a crit.
quasi marsh
cant really rely on 12 for critting on demand either like i said
since eyou're forced to run HH and not Surg
ripe quest
Which is usually gonna be ~80% of the time instead of constant on a lasgun
This actually kinda makes me want to run that MF build I was using but with a Boltgun.
spare talon
hi welcome back to another episode of "how did that grab me and why did 1 grab cause the end of a run"
open pollen
I wonder what FS been working on lately. Hope we get a comms tomorrow.
ember yew
I wonder what FS been working on lately. Hope we get a comms tomorrow.
Vermintide Versus mode
open pollen
nods solemnly
ember yew
I want new maps and balance overhaul in Darktide too
hollow ember
hi welcome back to another episode of "how did that grab me and why did 1 grab c...
yea while practicing against chaos spawn in meat grinder when I dodged to the left it's higher chance of him grabbing me
spare talon
yea while practicing against chaos spawn in meat grinder when I dodged to the le...
i cant dodge to the right when theres a wall directly next to me
open pollen
I know folks joke about DT being VT2 with guns, but I actually wouldn't mind if they copied more over from VT2. Sack rats, for example. Flails, akimbo weapons, perhaps
hollow ember
backward and right side both works from what i tried, but I meant on why u got grabbed. Left side dodge is cursed with chaos spawn
nimble fiber
bread
open pollen
i cant dodge to the right when theres a wall directly next to me
That moment when a stray poxxer body blocks ye.
spare talon
backward and right side both works from what i tried, but I meant on why u got g...
in this case i had no choice
dh right behind me (which the spawn would have pushed me back further into after i did this), wall to the right
open pollen
If they had a talent that stopped enemies from blocking your dodges, I think that'd be a meta pick.
hollow ember
oh rip
nothing makes u more nervous than a monstrosity spawning near a DH haha
"please don't knock me into the DH pleeaaase"
spare talon
my goal was to loop around the chaos spawn and get him inside that room he was coming from
so we would neither be on the bridge nor a DH
but the chaos spawn had other plans
hollow ember
yea i see what u mean
spare talon
which is why it makes more sense why im sprinting directly in the direction of the chaos spawn there
hollow ember
hope he didn't throw u into the DH
spare talon
i dont even know what caused the first stage of alertness either
open pollen
You know, if they ever wanted to bring back platforming challenges, they could always have ye parkour over demonhosts.
spare talon
hope he didn't throw u into the DH
well the ideal would be not getting grabbed from a 120 degree angle but yknow
median steeple
As soon as you think you've figured out how DHs work...
hollow ember
spare talon
but yeah that entire situation was fucked
open pollen
I had a dream I was playing a multiplayer level, and it was really hard till I found an alternate path that skipped all the hard parts and was faster, but I could never convince my teammates to take that path.
I feel like DT might have given me a brand new anxiety.
spare talon
like it seems at first glance that im being really fucking stupid but when you think about it im just hoping to turn it into a better playing field
cuz not doing that would ensure the game goes downhill fast
so it was either try to make it work or just die lmao
fading vale
this is why we need the relic to be a javelin
open pollen
this is why we need the relic to be a javelin
The missile launcher or the sharp stick?
fading vale
Sharp stick
ember yew
I had a dream I was playing a multiplayer level, and it was really hard till I f...
It's still better than getting dreams about red gear, perfect rolls or fear of getting kicked because you rush ahead too much and poor fellas can't follow
open pollen
It's still better than getting dreams about red gear, perfect rolls or fear of g...
In the dream I took the alt path by myself and my teammates bemoaned me for rushing ahead.
open echo
i fel like i regognise this name from here
shy river
I don't think I've ever been vote kicked once and I have a little over 300 hours, generally people just leave you to your fate unless you're being really toxic in chat
fading vale
I had a whole dream of playing a new map in discord with Josho
open echo
i fel like i regognise this name from here
just saw in Morningstar
opaque island
I had a whole dream of playing a new map in discord with Josho
a vision from the emperor!
sooon
open pollen
Only had one DT map dream. Blue map, lots of stairs and bridges.
Thats about all I can recall.
fading vale
I think mine was sewery with lots of stairs tunnels and bridges, also blue
open pollen
Hmmm, visions from the emperor indeed.
fading vale
also in this dream
I was being outdone by another hammer zealot and falling behind on boss damage
so you could say it was a nightmare I guess
opaque island
I was being outdone by another hammer zealot and falling behind on boss damage
it was me
i was that hammer zealot
open pollen
I think I was playing Ogryn. I recall being mad that I was so big and the bridges/tunnels were too small.
fading vale
lol
open pollen
Couldn't dodge without slipping off or getting blocked
fading vale
I sometimes have really life adjacent dreams if I wake up and then fall in and out of sleep, it's weird
open pollen
Oh, those are the worst. Especially the ones where you keep waking up, but its still a dream.
One time, I woke up sleep paralyzed, and I was panicing because I knew if I couldn't get out of bed I'd fall asleep again.
I was like "NO! DON'T SEND ME BACK!"
fading vale
wow you sound like you've experienced exactly the same shit
dim tapir
Just never sleep
fading vale
If I don't wake myself up after dream cycle for long enough I've had sleep paralysis like 3 or 4 times
10/10 do not recommend
open pollen
Pure agony. Thats the kind of stuff that could drive someone insane
fading vale
start hallucinating irl and can't control your body
and it's usually bad things happening for whatever reason
open pollen
I've been having very vivid dreams as of late. And I've been sleeping a lot more. 16 hours a day. Thankfully, they've been good dreams. So far.
fading vale
just sitting there trying to like, scream for minutes and you can't wake up
hushed agate
I've been having very vivid dreams as of late. And I've been sleeping a lot more...
16 hours?
hollow ember
just sitting there trying to like, scream for minutes and you can't wake up
what the hell
fading vale
thankfully that's only happened like a couple times so it's fine
hollow ember
that is terrifying
fading vale
what the hell
sleep paralysis yeah
hollow ember
thankfully never had that
open pollen
16 hours?
Yep. Wake up, go to work, repeat. I take breaks to eat/use the bathroom, but I am just so dang sleepy!
visual stream
Ever try to punch or run in your dreams
hushed agate
Yep. Wake up, go to work, repeat. I take breaks to eat/use the bathroom, but I a...
That... cant be good
open echo
sleep paralysis yeah
got very luck first and only time i had it, was snuggled up to irl friend on a beanbag lol
and was avare was it was
open pollen
That... cant be good
No, probably not, but my Rheumatologist didn't seem concerned.
ripe quest
I don't think I've ever been vote kicked once and I have a little over 300 hours...
1.1k here, never been kicked. I've initiated a vote kick every other game. 
fading vale
got very luck first and only time i had it, was snuggled up to irl friend on a b...
I freaked my ex out but thankfully she woke me up, I was like writhing and making noises or something lol
hollow ember
I freaked my ex out but thankfully she woke me up, I was like writhing and makin...
do u know what causes that?
like not breathing properly or something like that?
coarse birch
I dont think ive ever had sleep paralysis but ive def had dreams so life adjacent it threw me off when i woke up really bad
open echo
do u know what causes that?
i know a cause of it is stress
open pollen
The body paralyzes itself during sleep to prevent sleepwalking.
open echo
but there are others
visual stream
1.1k here, never been kicked. I've initiated a vote kick every other game. <:smi...
Stop reminding people it exists or we're gonna have a L4D2 type community
hollow ember
i know a cause of it is stress
ohh ty
shy river
1.1k here, never been kicked. I've initiated a vote kick every other game. <:smi...
that's mean you're a meanie
open echo
The body paralyzes itself during sleep to prevent sleepwalking.
there are other things that can cause it too
fading vale
do u know what causes that?
Uh, not well versed but I think it's maybe generally related to sleep health and mental health but don't quote me
hollow ember
gotcha, ty
open pollen
there are other things that can cause it too
Aye, but usually the paralysis itself comes from that feature.
ripe quest
I have a friend who got sleep paralysis and thought it was the funniest thing ever. They were saying it was typical sleep paralysis stuff but it was just "why is this funny" and then thought that idea itself was funny.
open pollen
Uh, not well versed but I think it's maybe generally related to sleep health and...
Our suffering is the cost of clairvoyance.
ripe quest
that's mean you're a meanie
They can't call me mean if I just kick them 
open pollen
(inb4 FS never releases the prophetic "blue map")
fading vale
I've had shit where I wake up in my bed and like, a ghost is pulling my families limbs off
why
open pollen
Ah, my sibling has had that one, but with animals.
fading vale
damn
visual stream
(inb4 FS never releases the prophetic "blue map")
Tzeentch is just using you to find a new way to get on Nurgle's nerves
ripe quest
I've yet to get sleep paralysis but for a long period of time I'd get consistent lucid dreams.
open pollen
Tzeentch is just using you to find a new way to get on Nurgle's nerves
Honestly, a blue Tzeentch-themed level would be pretty tight. Like, you're on a normal mission and you get sucked into a bizarro world Tzeentch made just to F with Nurgles followers.
But I am not sure GW would ever permit something so cool within DT.
It would also have to be in multiple missions, perhaps somekind of warp anomaly that appears in an otherwise unremarkable section of tertium. But then the lore would probably require nukin' it. Unless the rejects just kept it to themselves.
ripe quest
mmm, if they could fit it into a reasonable scenario I'm sure it'd be fine. From what I understand the stuff that GW doesn't like equates to "Would it make sense for x to happen here?" and if it's no then it's no.
open pollen
Aye, aye. A skilled writer could always make it make sense, but I feel a lot of good horror comes from the unexplained. Like the Watcher in the Rain.
Converting that story, for example, to a DT level would probably either break lore or else require so much explanation it ruins the vibe.
Anywho, I am rambling. Blue map will be what it is, if it ever is.
fading vale
I think my version of blue map was more like oubliette
open pollen
Ah, surprised we've not got something like that already. We have prison, we have sewers, why not prison sewer?
ripe quest
I do feel like the game could use more horror themes. Warhammer and for sure this setting in particular has solid potential for it. Even some of the lore snippets we've heard touch on it.
open pollen
Aye, but I do not envy the challenge. Its hard to make good horror levels in an otherwise action-centric design. Even the spookiest map would lose its luster when played 100+ times.
north sedge
lights out felt more like that originally in beta and such, but in the end it's an action game and you kinda just get used to it as well
open pollen
But with vent purge and lights out, I think they're trying. Hardest part about horror is how often you need to surprise the player with new stuff. Familiarity kills horror, at least for me.
ripe quest
god I'm testing the Taxes rn and it feels as though you took the horrible chain timings on slower weapons and inversed the problem. I've never had to worry about accidentally chaining into a light from a heavy except on these things
open pollen
I thought the Karnak level was pretty scary the first go through.
open pollen
god I'm testing the Taxes rn and it feels as though you took the horrible chain ...
I know, the US tax system is crazy.
PTW for sure.
open pollen
median steeple
The hunger bar is fomo
safe tusk
open pollen
If you want a preview, just buy a bunch of tin canned food and remove the labels.
open pollen
"Foodies are going to have to get used to not owning their food"
hushed knoll
HI VANESSA
elfin steppe
hushed knoll
elfin steppe
Dude first says he has full hp, then died on fire, and says it was an easy revive. I'm speechless.
calm salmon
"Foodies are going to have to get used to not owning their food"
this is actually the one thing that can't be turned into a license
thank god
You eat food, its gone forever
nothing to revoke afterwards
open pollen
nothing to revoke afterwards
"We're excited to announce new Pinapple Pistacio Pringles, and also sad to announce that we'll be discontinuing Pinapple Pistacio Pringles 3 months from now and sending Pinkertons to repossess any uneaten pringles"
fleet zealot
Idk lights out walking into a silent crusher pack is spooky, so is seeing an idle horde and all the lights in their eyes
fleet zealot
"We're excited to announce new Pinapple Pistacio Pringles, and also sad to annou...
I hate LTOs for food stuff
open pollen
Gives me real FIMO (Food I'm Munching On)
fleet zealot
Best and only panda express food i liked was their almond chicken
Actually had soy savory flavor, then gone
open pollen
I used to eat a lot of Brocoli Beef from there
Love my "meat" and "Meat-flavoured" veggies.
fleet zealot
I hate being a worker
Or well, been a worker
I used to do a lot of the fryer stuff at taco bell and now i can tell the difference in oil quality in fried foods
open pollen
Thankfully, I have a -2 to perception so I can't taste or see or hear or feel or smell the difference with anything.
Fun fact: 90% of candles smell like soap to me.
fleet zealot
I just dont like strong scented stuff
open pollen
I love when graphics/audio nerds do a before and after of a specific effect and my brain's like "These are the same"
elfin steppe
I used to do a lot of the fryer stuff at taco bell and now i can tell the differ...
Can you rank the fast food oil qualities
open pollen
Inquiring minds would like to know.
fleet zealot
Can you rank the fast food oil qualities
I cant rank place by place cause i dont eat out too much
open pollen
Best and worst then?
fleet zealot
It is more I can tell how old the oil is, how dirty it is, and when it was last filtered
Best taco bell when i maintained it myself
Worst, panda express chow mein
Technically not fryer so worst out of fryer places would probably be wendys
Mcdonalds is usually good but they have automatic systems that are pretty strict
elfin steppe
You are really a master
open pollen
Imagine eating at the ultra-deluxe Vtuber Disease Taco Bell
A transcendant experience no doubt, and the customers would never know it was all because of Vtuber Disease
(I would not be surprised if enjoying Taco Bell was a symptom of Vtuber Disease.)
rose flower
It is more I can tell how old the oil is, how dirty it is, and when it was last ...
I worked at a place called Charley’s for my first job. Fry and wing oil was always clean and good. Everyone cleaned that well
hollow ember
My first 550
gz 😄 awesome lookin weapon
violet hornet
Technically not fryer so worst out of fryer places would probably be wendys
Any idea if they changed their fry oil policy at all when introducing the new fry recipe years ago?
fleet zealot
Any idea if they changed their fry oil policy at all when introducing the new fr...
maybe
i just stopped going eventually besides grabbing a 5$ bag meal
their bottom buns would be soaked in grease adn overhauls just didn't taste good
violet hornet
Yeah I stopped going to Wendy's too, they used to be the happy compromise between expense and food quality and now it seems pricey for the quality
open pollen
I worked at a place called Charley’s for my first job. Fry and wing oil was alwa...
And lo, the lord said, "let thine oil be clean", and all rejoiced, because the oil was clean and good.
rose flower
Fries there were the bomb. I miss free food
stable cypress
Wendy's quality nosedived for me on top of prices inflating out of control
elfin steppe
Who is this weeb, and can someone get him some grass
fleet zealot
Who is this weeb, and can someone get him some grass
ember yew
come back when it will become 10 mils
spare dome
Helldivers 2 tomorrowwww
frank night
I give up on trying for PF4
spare dome
Sadly I'll be working for the launch
But I'm still waiting on PC preview.
Ain't bought it yet.
median steeple
I'm not like josho I can resist the temptations of gambling
shy river
I give up on trying for PF4
violet hornet
Helldivers 2 tomorrowwww
Maximum nut
visual stream
Zealot class make sure you talk about Helldivers 2 just as much as you talked about BG3 please and thank you
Wanna know if it's good or soulless
violet hornet
one month of nothing but helldivers 2 spoilers?
violet hornet
|| the bugs die ||
visual stream
There will be a plot to actually follow in the second one?
visual stream
shoot bug, shoot robot
Luv me mankind, luv me friendly fire killstreaks, simple as
visual stream
Glad I have the special ability to memory wipe myself of spoilers if I try hard enough and give it a lil time
Because y'all really did pocket sand me with BG3 spoilers all the time
violet hornet
Because y'all really did pocket sand me with BG3 spoilers all the time
yeah I had to stay out of here until it simmered down / I stopped giving a shit
north sedge
visual stream
Kriegsman fans be like
misty mason
median steeple
https://tenor.com/view/evil-are-we-the-baddies-surprised-gif-19176339
We're human we are incapable of being evil
mental coral
It’s not my fault I’m an asshole
north sedge
We're human we are incapable of being evil
median steeple
north sedge
north sedge
im sorry you failed the alan wake 2 gif off
north sedge
median steeple
Cells undergoing mitosis
north sedge
mental coral
Anyways
Any of you gamers staying up to 4 AM for helldivers 2
Something something muh freedom
sharp zodiac
I got like, a baby to babysit so I cannot
sharp zodiac
I'm taking that as a warning
mossy scarab
Any of you gamers staying up to 4 AM for helldivers 2
I would. But I have a job.
mental coral
Oof
elfin steppe
The knife zealot was on fire
The MK XV's stagger is not just bad, is abysmal, i stagger fewer enemies than a knife user, how is that possible
little thicket
The MK XV's stagger is not just bad, is abysmal, i stagger fewer enemies than a ...
Click faster.
frank night
dog jumps at zealot
sharp zodiac
Auroclicker
frank night
zealot bases dog
indigo quartz
are you running fury of the faithful + the 10% attack speed node?
little thicket
Knife player has more apm
elfin steppe
How is that even possible, when I run Punishment I stagger fewer enemies than a knife.
elfin steppe
are you running fury of the faithful + the 10% attack speed node?
of course
elfin steppe
Is this weapon's stagger stats even working
indigo quartz
mk15 attacks slow
frank night
frechnh
indigo quartz
stagger is also caused by ranged weapons
elfin steppe
Dude was using a revolver
indigo quartz
some ranged weapons stagger a LOT
if they're lining 8+ people shots
thats a lot of stagger
elfin steppe
There is no way he staggers more enemies with range weapons.
elfin steppe
I ran a Kant shot gun, I would stagger even more than a revolver.
With five stacks of Punishment, I can't stagger gunners, and I saw a knife zealot stagger more enemies, I'm beginning to believe this is a bug.
spare dome
i dont use the scoreboard
i assume stagger is just one number for all stagger
so every tiny stab was a stagger
just like one huge sweep is 'one stagger' (per enemy of course)
south folio
or if they're pushing more cuz knife
spare dome
and that too
if there push attack spamming you're gonna 'stagger' a lot
but you arent doing Evis 15 levels of crowd lockdown
where you're holding a wave of bruisers and making four ragers jiggle in place
but it probably all counts the same
elfin steppe
Five stacks of Punishment, they barely moved.
mental coral
The MK XV's stagger is not just bad, is abysmal, i stagger fewer enemies than a ...
You kill not stagger smh
How does og eviscerator compare btw
elfin steppe
It's much stronger for diving flak armour elites.
north sedge
anytime i've played the evisc i've never bothered thinking about stagger
dense field
Yeah, I've had just enough stagger to never feel a need for more
north sedge
if i want that, crusher or hammer
mossy scarab
Zealot doesn't really need more stagger.
You've got a bunch of increased impact talents
elfin steppe
This is why it's so strong, it completely knocks them off and makes it much easier to dive into a big gunner squad.
north sedge
heavies tend to have larger stagger values
elfin steppe
You can tell it's not a big difference.
dense field
I only care about staggering melee elites
ripe quest
It's just kinda a consequence of the XV using lights for crowd damage.
north sedge
which like, makes sense since mk2 is crowd oriented and 15 is single oriented
dense field
Ranged elites are just free food
elfin steppe
The MK II heavy's stagger is 18, and the MK XV's light stagger is 12. With full-stack punishment and rampage, I should definitely be able to stagger gunners, but it's not working.
north sedge
i've never really found it to be an issue
elfin steppe
Even crit does not stagger them.
It's like it has no stagger at all.
You see? Even the knife staggers
elfin steppe
i've never really found it to be an issue
It's a huge issue if you dive any gunners or shotgunners.
misty mason
Do you have SS on it?
spare dome
that evis looks pathetic without extra cleave
misty mason
I think the nuvisc has a really small cleave cap
elfin steppe
I always feel the stagger is weak, I didn't expect this weak.
misty mason
Some people put SS on it just for the increased stagger
elfin steppe
guys, the cleave can't do shit if you can't stagger enemies
misty mason
Well, increased stagger targets
spare dome
put wrath on it
elfin steppe
Why do i need to increase stagger targets, when i can't even stagger one enemey
You literally just saw five stacks of punishment + crit can't stagger one gunner.
spare dome
the problem is they arent attacking
and stagger is determined by what the enemy is doing
are you throwing them to the floor? nah
will you stop them all from attacking? oh yea
and since you're throwing out giant headlevel sweeps its sort of better that they dont get floored and instead just stand there waiting for their turn on the xsword block
ripe quest
I think the nuvisc has a really small cleave cap
It doesn't from what I can tell.
Most weapons just bottom out at a low cleave rather than capping.
spare dome
you can USUALLY pretty safely assume that stagger cleave is 'infinite'
i dont know any weapon that can have their cleave brought to a point where the stagger hits a full 0
ripe quest
L4 on the XV will stagger enemies fine which makes me think it's some multiplier that relentless attacks have, or it's a resistance that most enemies have against relentless attacks.
spare dome
actually i take that back, there probably is a few
if you put two cleave blessings
for some reason
elfin steppe
L4 on the XV will stagger enemies fine which makes me think it's some multiplier...
Is the new chain axe light relentless or vanguard?
north sedge
i just dont think it matters, any time i've played the mk15 evisc i was never bothered by gunners
mossy scarab
Double cleave blessing evi could theoretically hit... 50 targets? or 60?
I mean, it's not worth it at all
spare dome
only if youre fighting a fat mauler wave really
south folio
staggermaxxing
ripe quest
Is the new chain axe light relentless or vanguard?
They're relentless, though they have higher impact.
elfin steppe
They're relentless, though they have higher impact.
much higher. I remember I could knock normal enemies around.
visual blade
what's the best thunder hammer setup?
mossy scarab
Thrust, headtaker/slaughterer, flak, unyielding
mossy scarab
Mobility I believe
visual blade
doesn't have
mossy scarab
Wait no. defences?
visual blade
always -0.2
elfin steppe
TBH, I expected that with five stacks of punishment, it would at least make gunners and shotgunners move. Normally, I wouldn't bother with stagger, but recently, when I was diving into gunners and shotgunners, it became very noticeable. I'm getting hit a lot, which basically never happened when I was using MK II.
mossy scarab
Shit, I forget
visual blade
doesn't have mobility
for the record this is not the hammer i want. 355 is laughable to me
mossy scarab
Defences in that case
north sedge
solid stat spread though
visual blade
it's not bad but i can get better
i'm finally capable of doing damnation consistently
high raven
I need to get around to one of those meat grinder mods
spare dome
those guys arent flak
oh nvm i have now watched the video instead of jsut the thumbnail
elfin steppe
It's the same
ripe quest
This has to be a bug.
If you think it's a bug then make a report.
elfin steppe
Yea, I'm doing it now.
ripe quest
My only assumption is that the first three lights are labelled as sticky attacks, which revs use. Instead of following the normal rules of stagger it'll just make them shake, but in this case only for 1 instance per hit since it isn't a rev attack.
Other attacks will work their way through these stagger states, but sticky attacks only have the sticky stagger state and nothing beyond.
At least, that's what I understand about it. I haven't looked into stagger prior.
spare dome
Stagger is a black box
loud hearth
What's the best devil's claw mk and perk/blessings
elfin steppe
My only assumption is that the first three lights are labelled as sticky attacks...
You are a genius.
But my gamer instinct proved I was correct.
north sedge
🤔
violet hornet
What's the best devil's claw mk and perk/blessings
I like the mk 4 dclaw, I've heard a few other people recommend it as well
loud hearth
TIL Surgical works with throwing knives
So if you've ever wanted to slowly kill a crusher with 2 throwing knives
ripe quest
TIL Surgical works with throwing knives
They inherit most blessings on your active weapon. They also use perks and talents. Anoint will be active while you have a ranged weapon for example.
visual stream
They inherit most blessings on your active weapon. They also use perks and talen...
Do they contribute to blessings as well?
ripe quest
Depends on the weapon but they can yeah.
visual stream
Slaughterer and headtaker I would assume work?
indigo quartz
yes
ripe quest
Like with that clip the reason Scattershot is so nice is because it doesn't check for a throwing knife when you throw it, so it never resets.
ripe quest
And you get the benefit of Scattershot.
indigo quartz
due to having a high finesse modifier
ripe quest
If you have Blazing Piety up and Scattershot at 5 stacks it's a huge amount of crit chance for smth like Manstopper.
iirc can do it with Headhunter as well but it's not as easy to stack.
loud hearth
Also it inherits the rending buff of hand cannon so
495 on crit vs 1865 on hand cannon 4 crit for throwing knives
2 shot crushers
last plover
They inherit most blessings on your active weapon. They also use perks and talen...
how many times ppl will talk about this
but the fun fact in real action you cant do shit like that
because of them
fleet zealot
north sedge
looks like someone's got a new crush
lofty elk
which is the best devils claw version?
fleet zealot
i'm too smexy for htis server
fleet zealot
which is the best devils claw version?
mk4 or mk1
median steeple
Big rodent yawn
ripe quest
but the fun fact in real action you cant do shit like that
It's pretty easy to grab a Scattershot + Man-Stopper Lawby, stack Scattershot, then just go ham with throwing knives. Due to how Scattershot stacks you can get it up at long as any moderate mass of enemies exists.
north sedge
solid if you have thrust handy
last plover
Is this a good melk purchase?
dont use hammer . average players on it bonk bonk ded
gilded lintel
I do iirc
north sedge
would need to change trauma to thrust, weak spot to flak
last plover
last plover
It's pretty easy to grab a Scattershot + Man-Stopper Lawby, stack Scattershot, t...
we gonna talk when they will come like a squad and start focus on you
on a mael mostly i saw a results of it on randoms
visual stream
Is this a good melk purchase?
Good to obtain slaughterer, and it is certainly usable if you put Thrust over the Trauma and replace one of the two perks with elites or unyielding
I would try to roll for better but if you want your usable hammer now then go for it
lofty elk
rampage or wrath(cleave) on devils claw?
visual stream
(Or if you really want that slaught IV)
gilded lintel
Yea I woulnd't invest in rolling a good hammer since I've got other things I got more. But I'll buy it just for use if I wanna try a hammer build sometime
Whats a good thunder hammer build to give it a try with?
Pref not martyrdom
(Unless thats what you're really supposed to run)
sharp zodiac
Time to check on milk
ripe quest
we gonna talk when they will come like a squad and start focus on you
The effectiveness of it gets better if a patrol is involved. There seems to be some misunderstanding here, this is a simple mechanic.
Try it out sometime.
north sedge
Whats a good thunder hammer build to give it a try with?
can switch desperation to holy rev if you prefer
gilded lintel
Why not disdain? The massive cleave on the hammer seems like it'd sync up well with it
north sedge
i mean i literally just posted that build
gilded lintel
Would this work but with martyrdom
iirc momentum buffs dodges
north sedge
disdain is ok, but you'd have to lose a node somewhere for it
you'd have to redo alot for marty since it takes more points
gilded lintel
Why pious over swift? Do you get many backstab kills with hammer?
royal vortex
i run smth like this with ironhelm sometimes
punishment is w/e i sometimes swap it with grievous wounds if im doing dumb stuff to use normals vs ragers
gilded lintel
Bleed for emperor seems like a waste without extra wounds no?
You'd have to take over 50% of your HP in one hit for it to even trigger
royal vortex
there's a lot of setups with wounds where bfte is worthless or not that helpful anyways
it helps with snipers/bursters and sometimes overheads depending on how much toughness u have
north sedge
Why pious over swift? Do you get many backstab kills with hammer?
yea getting behind bulwarks and dodge sweeps will get behind things frequently
gilded lintel
Good point, and 20% is a lot and the 2 charges mean any 'overcap' on the CD bonus is still used
gilded lintel
it helps with snipers/bursters and sometimes overheads depending on how much tou...
It still seems a bit niche? It only triggers if the shot would send you from over half health to under half health. And if its high enough damage (overhead) it'll still kill you. And if you've already lost your wound when you need defensives the most it kinda just wont be there.
royal vortex
im not taking damage from that many sources
there's a handful of things that aren't disablers that will meaningfully hurt me in a match
a good portion of them are stuff that u cant avoid but deal enough damage to trigger bfte like silent bursters or snipers targeting a different player
gilded lintel
I guess. It seems like it'd only help with sniper shots when above half health. 90% of stuff that kills me is being disabled in fire (Or just situations where I"ve lost all toughness/lots of HP to fire)
royal vortex
nothing solves being disabled while being in fire
but bfte in a lot of situations will let u avoid using until death or delay it which keeps u alive for longer if stuff is goin bad
gilded lintel
Oh I know, it just seems like a wasted point when you only have 2 wounds. Overheads I imagine still one hit you through it so I think that means only sniper shots and burster explosions are what its good against? And only if above half health, and only if you have enough toughness it wont kill you anyways.
royal vortex
depends on your curio setup
with 1 hp/2 toughness and full bars i get left with smth like 80 hp from a mauler overhead with bfte
gilded lintel
People run more than 2 wounds on non-martyrdom builds?
ripe quest
1 point to send a middle finger to two of the most annoying enemy bugs in the game is nice.
gilded lintel
Oh you mean HP curios
royal vortex
if u want a decent return on investment for bfte without going marty u can grab the +2 wounds node and do 3 hp curios
gilded lintel
Yea I guess thats fair. Snipers never really felt all that threatening since I run knife but I'm guessing in a hammer build they might suck more to deal with
royal vortex
a lot of ppl are taking faithful frenzy anyways so its only 2 points of dip
it's good in part because of how awful sound cues are rn
gilded lintel
I just noticed this is a hammer build without faithful frenzy
royal vortex
i cannot outskill an enemy that simply does not exist until it turns mid-leap around a corner without making sound until its already .5 seconds from exploding
and if ur grabbing vicious offering for the funny refill toughness from 0 on a horde with an activated ironhelm heavy its 1 point of investment
gilded lintel
punishment is w/e i sometimes swap it with grievous wounds if im doing dumb stuf...
On this what about swapping it with purge the unclean?
Also dammit all these builds don't use throwing knives t.t
royal vortex
u could do that yea
gilded lintel
I rely on those so much nowadays anytime I try to run a build that doesn't run it I press Q when a rager is in my face, pull out grenade and die when I go to block
royal vortex
u can just stagger a rager with hammer
gilded lintel
Can but I've gotten real good at just drive by throwing a knife in their face
royal vortex
if you take grievous wounds (50% stagger on weakspot hit) u can hit em with a light headshot and it knocks them out of the combo
gilded lintel
Same with knifing gunners long distance
royal vortex
for certain bps
coarse birch
Nvm
royal vortex
thrust hits it too
royal vortex
Also dammit all these builds don't use throwing knives t.t
this is my pretty generic tknives build
gilded lintel
Also is Anoint in Blood good? I usually don't grab it since my ranged of choice is a flamer (since I rely on throwing knives). Guessing I'll need to grab a real ranged weapons
fleet zealot
not on flamer iirc
royal vortex
one of the best single point investments out of all 4 talent trees
gilded lintel
yea, doesn't work on burn damage so usually don't grab it
royal vortex
im p sure anoint does it just scales based off your distance
gilded lintel
It doesn't, had a big discussion about it a few days ago iirc. Was trying to decide if I wanted it
it only works on the flat damage t.t
gilded lintel
this is my pretty generic tknives build
No viscious offering will suck but will give this a try first I think. Thanks for the build tips :D
royal vortex
second wind and vicious offering are p comparable ime
ur just trading off the scenarios in which u get stuck with kinda shitty toughness economy
hushed knoll
Hello Josho
royal vortex
It doesn't, had a big discussion about it a few days ago iirc. Was trying to dec...
the kuli steam guide says it does so long as you have the ranged weapon equipped so im inclined to believe it
misty mason
Oh, time for a new Josho name
gilded lintel
3 points to do w/e depending on weapon
With ironhelm on that I'm thinking the three points in Grievous wounds, that damage reduction when dodging, and idk the third. Maybe anoint if it works. Gonna test it real quick in grinder
royal vortex
anoint is probs the best one point investment
hushed knoll
Oh, time for a new Josho name
?
fleet zealot
royal vortex
disdain is nice but on ironhelm i cant find any concrete thing to use it for besides "horde clear number gets higher"
sterile stone
Zealot talks shit and under performs
The mission becomes infinitely easier the moment he dies and leaves
Bruh
royal vortex
yea whoever told u anoint doesnt work on dot is wrong
gilded lintel
Ok yea it works
royal vortex
gilded lintel
point blank one burst goes from 2 damage ticks to 3 dmage ticks vs a reaper
yea and it changes from 2 to 3 depending on how far I'm standing
even while the burn is on them
coarse birch
Just had someone on the subreddit say maniac is a bad perk on melee weapons
minor sage
Does it snapshot for dots
coarse birch
Every day i lose hope
gilded lintel
Does it snapshot for dots
Nope
royal vortex
Just had someone on the subreddit say maniac is a bad perk on melee weapons
that tanner mouthbreather is doing the rounds giving people dogshit perk advice
gilded lintel
I just watched it change damage based on moving back and forth
coarse birch
I mean on like hammer sure
gilded lintel
I shot one little burst of flame, 3 damage ticks
step back, 2 damage ticks
step forward back to 3 damae
coarse birch
that tanner mouthbreather is doing the rounds giving people dogshit perk advice
Actually sabotaging the community
gilded lintel
....does it work on throwing knives if ranged weapon is out?
north sedge
yes
gilded lintel
Actually, does stuff like uncanny strike affect the throwing knife if you're at max stacks?
north sedge
yes
gilded lintel
gilded lintel
lmfao
surgical on the knife
lol
If you charge all your knives crit for a few seconds
coarse birch
Tknives work with a ton of stuff
gilded lintel
Yea, so they used rending on crit headshot and surgical there
north sedge
shame you can't turn em into railgun anymore
coarse birch
Sad
coarse birch
Never got to use that
royal vortex
although i could be wrong i was messing in the psykh and didnt expect that to happen and just clipped it
gilded lintel
Ok so the charge thing is pretty great though
The 'converts carapace to flak' works for the knives when you charge
light badge
a few pixels
sterile stone
a few pixels
Nintendo gameboy graphics
Mans playing on CCTV camera footage quality
coarse birch
Arcos graphics if he didnt know what he was doing
ripe quest
Just had someone on the subreddit say maniac is a bad perk on melee weapons
They took that one from Tanner.
100%
He hates Maniac on melee weapons for some reason.
Not like "Oh some weapons don't need it" it's "Bad on melee weapons"
spare dome
Eh, kinda.
ripe quest
+weakspot
loud hearth
Pretty sure that dude uses crit damage and weakspot lmfao
coarse birch
Oh boy
loud hearth
the worst of the bunch
spare dome
A shitload of weapons already one tap most of the spoopy maniacs and ragers are something youre either already controlling or you aren't and are blowing them up instead
spare dome
You don't actually spend a lot of time hitting Maniac armor in the grand scheme of things.
neat igloo
"+carapace is s tier because you can stack brittleness with onslaught and then devils claw parry"
spare dome
But its all about da breakpointz
loud hearth
Maniac is for mutants and ragers mainly right
spare dome
It's 'sometimes' for lots of things
loud hearth
Yeah but to flat out say "no it's the worst" is stupid
spare dome
But generally only Trappers, Ragers (both don't suffer the 3x melee damage debuff)
And maniacs are like a conveniece thing
ripe quest
You don't actually spend a lot of time hitting Maniac armor in the grand scheme ...
Yeah no this is partially true. It's not at omnipotent as Flak is (which tanner says to run +elites and +weakspot instead for Flak). It's just, there are some melee weapons where it's nice.
loud hearth
But generally only Trappers, Ragers (both don't suffer the 3x melee damage debuf...
the what debuff?
ripe quest
Mutants take 3x melee damage.
coarse birch
Yeah baseline they are weak to melee
loud hearth
Oh cool
coarse birch
Thats why hsword like one shots them
loud hearth
So that is why I deal 4000 damage in a single hit to muties
neat igloo
do maulers have any unarmored part?
ripe quest
no
coarse birch
Flak and cara only
neat igloo
ok, that's what i thought
ripe quest
It's all Flak. Carapace on the head.
neat igloo
he said that they did
royal vortex
the problem with making big overarching statements about perks besides stuff like 10% crit/weakspot being shit is ur just gonna inevitably make urself look stupid in certain contexts
loud hearth
For maulers you just aim at the chest right
royal vortex
and if ur at the point where ur rolling stuff for vibes u just say ur rolling stuff for vibes
coarse birch
Generally yeah just hit them the chest
minor sage
Generally maniac on melee weapons is mainly for mutants and ragers
royal vortex
instead of trying to tell ppl to run 10% weakspot on dclaw
minor sage
If your melee weapon doesnt need to handle it
coarse birch
Duelling swords are the exception
minor sage
You can replace maniac
But most of the time having flak maniac is nice
To handle most situations
coarse birch
Theres more exceptions than DS but i cant think of them rn lol
obtuse solstice
when am I supposed to use the rashad special
coarse birch
Deimos
minor sage
Theres more exceptions than DS but i cant think of them rn lol
Theres a few
PS for example
Knife can also be flexible
coarse birch
Is PS better off on non PA
spare dome
But yea people really super overvalue maniac on their melee. It's like a default slap-on for the vast majority of players despite the fact that it's a much more nuanced perk that's only really for a handful of interactions.
minor sage
I think crusher can also use flexible perks
coarse birch
Not that you shouldnt be doing push attack
royal vortex
any combo of cara/unyielding/flak/maniac is fine on crusher
minor sage
I personally pref cara/flak or cara/unyield on my PS
spare dome
But maniacs have a very outsized effect on ur psyche
royal vortex
unarmored is p dogshit because the h1 will p easily hit bps on unarmored elites if ur chasing that
spare dome
They are scary so ur like, oh ya totes make them die faster
royal vortex
and all that leaves u with is some bruiser damage which isnt really worth it
minor sage
But yea people really super overvalue maniac on their melee. It's like a default...
Its cuz its much more valuable on guns
royal vortex
(because u bring a brauto and refuse to ever melee a scab bruiser because the hitmass is scary)
ripe quest
Is PS better off on non PA
Power Sword only aims for the head on Maulers w/ the powered attacks.
minor sage
Cuz flamers and trappers are prio targets lol
ripe quest
All of the attacks while powered want to hit the head for Maulers.
royal vortex
But maniacs have a very outsized effect on ur psyche
for the longest time the game was super hardcore geared towards throwing specialists relative to other enemy types
and then they buffed elite spawns
spare dome
Even back then though
north sedge
mutants also used to live a bit longer
royal vortex
the relative power creep also brought up weapons significantly while specialist hp has remained stagnant or even decreased in some cases
minor sage
and then they buffed elite spawns
Theres quite a few guns that want unarmored flak now
Due to the elite spam
royal vortex
pre-13 u had a way stronger case for just throwing maniac on everything unless u had something dogshit like most ogryn weapons
minor sage
And breakpoints
spare dome
all about da breakpointz
minor sage
Shotgunner and gunner breakpoints are annoying
royal vortex
shotgunner breakpoints arent real because they arent enemy types
they are like the ambient background of a killfeed
coarse birch
Yeah i was gonna say im very unconcerned with shotgunner bps
spare dome
Shotgunners only exist to buff their friendly Bulwarks into unstaggerable fuck faces
coarse birch
Like flak or elites is enough for me
royal vortex
i would care about unarmored way more for bruisers unless u have something fucking weird like a laspistol
ripe quest
It's funny seeing a cone of bullets whizz past me notifying me I can fill the killfeed
royal vortex
and thats only the kant one if ur putting minimal to no investment into ranged/crit stuff
coarse birch
Unarmored seems interesting to me ive just found very few uses where i wish i had it
Over like elites
ripe quest
god i miss the old stripped down
sharp zodiac
I shouldn't have gone to darktide
spare dome
GIVE IT TO MEEEeee
coarse birch
Whys that
sharp zodiac
I was better off in mhr
north sedge
ready for action/pray
coarse birch
Damn did you stop mhw already lol
fair igloo
royal vortex
the newest telopots video has a bit where crab is discussing blessings (presumably because of the potential blessing rework that may or may not be happening any time soon) and i got depressed when he mentioned if crusher got more blessings u would have to nerf the base strength of the weapon because its designed with the shitty blessing pool in mind
i dont want them to touch my CHILD
it is perfect the way it is (mostly)
spare dome
my friend wants it to get thrust
royal vortex
decapitate him
coarse birch
What if it got cool blessings
royal vortex
the only way that would be acceptable is with a more human friendly crafting system