#zealot-class
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HERETIC
often times you are specialing or hitting 1 thing
more like REASONABLE PERSON
I often take momentum bc if I want to run piety I kinda end up having to grab knifes
Reason is the first step on the road to treachary
Blessed is the mind too small to doubt
If I want good balance and dr on crit
I could maybe take throwing knives if I run a kant
I just don't really like them
they have a good funny factor
Manstopper knifes meme?
well I would need a bad kant for that
Or else I have to drop sustained assault and more
and I don't want to run a bad kant
Why does it have to be t2 :(
no I just mean the performance will be ass vs running actually good blessing for kant
Ah
and also you would want to run piety
What do you normally run?
no respite + fire frenzy for kant
tbh any of the damage/power blessings for the second are fine
but no respite is most important
mineeeeee
infested 
join the "bricked" 550 club
It's not bricked if it's the modifiers that aren't perfect
trip 80s in damage 
Bricked means Hadron fucked it up
bricked means it's not perfect 4/4 with good stats smh
Tbh I’m fine with 3/4 if the base stats are good
Room for improvement, vs doesn't reach breakpoint
If something doesn't reach a breakpoint it's just a miserable pile of disappointment
breakpoints are so fucky to calculate given the number of buffs available now
Fuck me I hate phone keyboards
My veteran has a rashad axe with bromentum which gets stuck on the first target
It makes me fucking angry lol
Mmmmmm my favorite breakpoint that I will totally use, one hit trappers in melee
I wonder why I run revi
Who knows
I love to reload during a battle! There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber
the reload hardly matters
Mmmmm mmmmmm that's right.
Nothing like pounding those rounds into my wanting cylinders.
especially when you 1 shot multiple of everything except maulers and ogryns
and can just reload whenever you want and slide
Shalasaska would be disgusted.
i want the new rev to be better because speedloaders are very cool
it feels pretty bad to use
which is sad
like I could just take a laspistol instead and do waaaaay more dps
If it doesn't penetrate through an entire planet to land a pixel perfect headshot on a Gunner on the other side
It can't compete with Zarona, My Beloved.
I mean zarona only has 6.5 cleave but that's a pretty solid amount of cleave
6.5 is why you can 1 shot 2 maniac ragers
Agri really needs a cleave buff
I was playing around with weapon customization mod and you can slap a 3x scope on the revolver, poor snipers lol 😄
How many can plasma hit?
50
(It needs it)
Charged shot has 100 cleave and theres still no reason to use it
What if you arecertain to die and want to blow yourself to achieve something?
Then you are a psyker
Unfortunate typo there
Just without the voices
You guys dont have voices?
Forgot the up sorry lol
“dO yOu HeAr ThE vOiCeS tOo?”
The only one we don't tolerate is Ron
why's she picking her nose
she's picking her nose
She is not picking her nose it may not even be close to her nose
pretty sure that there is a picking of noses occurring in this image, mon pomme de terre
Why are we discussing this as if the fate of the world is at stake
is this how your fate of the world conversations go
Yeah
I will not be gaslit
vaporises you as you walk into the room
Uncalled for
I enjoy seeing reddit zealots talking about how good lacerate is while telling you that uncanny strike is bad
Im glad someone is on my side around here
i have no hate ( :
Or mirrors
Unfortunately i think i would only talk to you in here
And josho i cant qualify him as a hater yet
He did attempt my murder once
That's something josho would definitely do
stevbe
it's weird how people cant understand the OPness of lacerate
I mean you sacrifice doing damage for a sick ass bleed on body shots
whack
What's the post?
Same 
They wouldnt even budge on old AP
You can see it deeper into the comments
or bolter
I just saw that exact post
2 shit perks and 2 shit blessings amazing
Flesh tearer can be ok if you're doing critmaxxing already
But of course shit if you aren't
And the build my god
flesh tearer is only ok with uncanny
Yeah i was assuming uncanny
It works with onslaught too
Even the nade?
Even the nade
discovering helbore mk3 rn on vet
why are they running extra wounds
seems like a sklillfull plasma gun
Every gun is skillful plasma gun
Plasma gun but worse in every way except ammo use
Helbores fun tho
i mean crusher 2 shot, reaper 1 shot
I liked mk2 i don't think the hp buffs helped it tho
it's p good
This is true, but can it kill 12 shotgunners in one shot
I assumed it was only the burn stacks that were affected
it can kill 2 shotgunners per shot which is acceptable
It's hard to have a bad weapon on vet, it's just more of how OP do you want to be
And it's got the dinky pullout and the bad bayonet
plasam is fun be it's just too op
uninstalling the game is a more skillful gun than plasma gun
Recon 
Autopistol 
yes those are genuinely terrible weapons but
Caxe without brutal 
most other things
so helbur mk3 is the hard hitting vet weapon but without the braindeadness of plasma
caxe is obviously in a dumb spot and BM shouldn't exist
Well. I am glad I have mostly uncanny on my knives then
Caxe is so dumb i dont use it and i run assail
Caxe causes my grades to go down
what if we made your weapon 4x the weapon in 70% of scenarios just for you clicking m1 repeatedly
I like how it just breaks the inherent design of the weapon
Luna i am sorry we are shitting on caxe i know you just picked it up
give it some cleave, delete BM
brutal momentum, power cycler, uncanny strike
BM makes a bunch of ogryn weapons functional so I am going to keep that shit in there with all my might until we can do a more comprehensive rework 
are there any other "required to function" blessings on melee weapons?
Uncanny might be ok but not with how strong rending is
i mean yeah, it's entirely weapon dependent
I would also just build thrust into hammers and make the blessings interesting but that's not going to happen
it's fine on some weapons
Definitely and im just blanking
thrust
Although I dont mind thrust
skullcrusher on crusher kind of
me neither
I don't mind it but
i like thrust so therefore it must not be changed
it's just a default
i wish every weapon had a blessing pool as interesting as shotguns
and required
SC on crusher mostly cause the other options are bad
you are never going to not take thrust on hammer as isn
NR on shotguns generally
there is no choice
But not 100%
I wish the crusher variants would release
having an interesting blessing that doesn't go above tier 2, shotgun moment
If throwing knives could proce BM...
Oh i agree on needing thrust
NR is extremely meta on shotguns, but you can not run it if you're doing something specific and dumb
headtaker on hsword and fake BM
it does but deathblow just cranks the OP up a notch
Yeah
on the mk9 mostly no?
it's considered best on all of them now
can you proc deathblow against anything bigger than a poxwalker with the lights?
iag blessings are "interesting" in the sense that they get to compete at being the worst one
on all of them
deathblow ht
best one for elite ttk is the hs6
the heavies killing several elites is the most important thing, but it helps with trash too of course
best for horde clear is hs9
I have a 550 mk7 with flakniac and ht/deathblow
Puts bruisers in your path with those yeeyee ass perks
The cleave stops here.
Mk7 requires a little camera work
7 is good just more awkward
it has strikedown only heavies though
its the middle child between mk6 and mk9
arent both mk6 heavies strikedown as well?
yes
just the same heavies but in reverse?
No
and yeah no respite on shotguns
both mk6 heavies are strikedown
is massive
Mk6 has a sweep as a heavy im p sure just h1 is a strikedown
naw mk6 has the cool uppercut as its h2
no respite is one of the reasons people pick up grey shotguns, go "this feels terrible" and then never use them again
which is mk7 h1
if you mean strikedown as like an attack pattern, it has a strikedown h1 and a sort of v shaped uppercut as h2
it'll still shit on them
both are strikedown type
every single time someone says this they post a shotgun without no respite and questionable blessings
Yeah i meant pattern i didnt realize h2 was still strikedown
I should really use my hsword and kantrael shotty more I guess lol
I will never recover
and then half of them double down and say no respite is bad for some reason
But I did go back to eviscerator
Then went back to psyker because zel got boring fast
have good rolls for both but been married to evis/crusher w/ iag or brauto for a while
Doesnt proc on first shot
run hsword bolter
no respite is however halfway to being overblown
Or aim bad?
I used to do that a lot
not sure if I still have a good bolter on my zealot
I faintly recall making one... hm
unless youre in a premade and have someone dealing boss dmg and cara/flak killer weapons
you can not go full respite if you're building for Agrippina snipes or manstopper memes
then you can just use whatever the hell you want, hsword does everything anyways
but you're leaving a lot of killing power on the table if you do that
sure but also who wants to use agri on zealot unless you are some sadist or something
Uh
good point
Look man
i'm vet brained
run the kant and snooze
but i kant
vanish
i wish
oh yeah been meaning to ask @fading vale did they fix shattering impact
Become psyker pilled
I ran kant for a good while before i started enjoying columnus brauto/bolter
Psyker is in fact best class
shittering glooppact
theres been like maybe two hotfixes in the past 3 months since the last patch
Bruh they haven't done or said anything in 2 months
awesome
every so often i go "today i will use a headhunter on something that isn't vet : )" and then perish
spiritually
should add also "releases patches in times anywhere from 1 week to 1 year"
Break away from the gun
Embrace the staff
No
precision staff when
run the one with flakiac
shotgun psyker when
Fatshark is a good dev, they just release shit before it's actually ready
anything when
Voidstrike: am I a joke to you
I kinda have to just for being a BiS 550
yes
Total unicorn lol
Fair enough
the best hsword is 80 80 80 first target dmg cleave dmg + any defence cleave targets + maniac elites + deathblow headtaker
since flak or not you still have 2shot breakpoint on ragers, 1shot on scab gunners
tbh more i think about it, maniac + whatever honestly
i have landed myself on a 80 80 79 hsword
good enough for me
It's always like this, they release a major update and forget about the game.
They don't forget about anything, they just don't work very fast
i personally do not get the fascination with player counters
eugh
Next update is in the oven, they'll talk about it and build some hype when it's close to finished, then back to silence
Also VT2 versus has the spotlight now (or was supposed to anyway before they had to delay the CAT for whatever reason)
LETS GO FOR SUB 10K PEAK PLAYERS 🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯
Hello again jerry
That's Tim
God I wish I had a job that lets you release features at this pace, Surly I won't need to worry about getting fired.
This is Jerry
they make for really high karma reddit posts when you post them in a game subreddit
Oh I see
Wait I can't remember now
why is she picking her nose
We're not doing this again
We are not doing this again
Surely
I will not be gaslit by someone who eats their own toenails
I will not be gaslit by someone who gets divebombed by bats or possibly birds
Frog or perhaps a toad
If you don't do B2B, then you can do this.
I'm talking about Maurice
Fatshark isn't dependent on a big client that requires a certain release schedule, they're a videogame developer
I was talking to mittens
Oh
lmao brb gonna walk ino traffic after reading 'survivalist aura is mid if only because people shoot too much for reasons that totally don't relate to survivalist aura'
That said I don't think they're deliberately slow or lazy
What does this even mean
exactly
They just don't have that many people actually working on this game
what DOES that mean
my knowledge of you is that arcotash beats you up in a school bathroom
What
What
What
What
Arco couldnt beat anyone
DOn't u call them washrooms
who is anyway
U stimker
send cica to taiwan
i c i c
They did a great job making it look like a game with 100+ developers until you actually play it.
the release reddit comments have arrived on the discord
Fatshark has 180 employees, including all of the non-development staff, and the remaining number of devs are split across at least 2 games
Probably 3, given that they're hiring for their next game atm
Already?
Vermindark 2: The End Tides
given their dev cycles we will see it come out shortly after 2077
No the next game is Orctide 1
They don't have a live service cash cow (they can't sustain that kind of release schedule) so they mostly live off of initial sales
and kriegers
... mousers?
Beavers
next game
...
and it was, too
40k fpses are really weirdly rare
Bunch of marketing hype leading up to it
I didn't even know it existed tbh
Feels like a missed opportunity.
I wasnt aware of how big a deal it was
I am your mother
they should find god
hol up
Lunas said that to me as well i do not know what it means
is fatshark seriously working on its next game
hol up yam tomato is here
Yam tomato is in fact here
i have returned from my slumber
games get worked on years and years in advance
five to seven
altho some companies like to try and compress that by working like ww2 soviets
insert sob story about game made by solo dev
given that they may also just fuck up
like bioware restarting development of games three times in a 8 year period
or cyberpunk when the 12 year dev time turned out to be 'get into a screaming panic during covid'
dreadwolf is gonna be ass
how can you tell
yamato is a psychic being
I saw it in a dream
That my job
i see
The og bioware team aint here anymore
why do ppl always write these things like the old devs fkn died
Tf happened to bioware i remember hearing about it
Done got ship o' thesus'd
Thesaurus
it's a big book with many chapters
Anthem and andromeda happened
Tyrannosaurus
Honestly I kinda actually liked anthem
Andromeda and anthem were both poorly managed and didn't get received very well and ended support eatly
early
Not as much as my father tho
and it's been a very long time since they released anything from the series that they are better known for
If this is EA or Bioware management's fault is up to you
That was such a big deal when it was ass
but they apparently tried to make all their releases very mass effect-y because it was super popular
and it apparently lead to a lot of wasted dev time and do-overs of work
couple that with allegedly poor directorship of the products
Same thing as ubisoft making every game they have nowadays use a gear score and rpg elements
anthem had content problem, the game was fun for the first 2 days, then it's either a slog or boredoomfestival
there was a bit of a period of time where voiced protagonists were really in vogue for rpgs
If I were managing the game it would've been saved
Trust
which I kinda like because you could get these absolutely vast performances from really good actors

aka cyberpunk
idk why they're so afraid to make more
but it's also weirdly limited also
eating a nice ass sausage rn
Tbf you probably could have managed the game better luna it wouldnt be hard
A what
i assume it's easier for small studios to make a turn based game
rather than trying for a decent fidelity fps
boltgun is pretty good tho
as is the necromunda one (apparently)
Nuh uh, I'm just built different
I agreed with you
ur built out of single pizzas and cheesy fries
Ensiten
i think it's more because they look at what warhammer is : a tabletop game, and they think the audience will only enjoy turn based stuff or rts's
The French knockoff
Ah my bad
which is weird to me
because half the time these devs are crazy warhammer fans themselves
We got boltgun and its one of the best 40k fps gamea we got
It might or might not be canon
the fronch
I do not know how to feel about this gif
this is how they make sorbet
I havent had sorbet in a minute
Sorbet is nice
It is good just been many years since i had it
Likewise
I do suggest everyone play boltgun
Very very fun game
Especialy the heavy bolter
Could be worse
I did, no offense but it was just good almost mid
Could be that caffeinated lemonade
What is the caffeinated lemonade
Panera's Charged Lemonade
It's quite alright
is it lethal with like one can of it
Multiple
Yeah
and then their heart pops like a grenade
You know i wish that didnt check out
Not to sound like an old hingedingedurgin kinda person
But tiktok has been quite the hit on the youth
In a bad way
But also good
Your not wrong
But mostly bad
we managed to set ourselves lethal challenges back when facebook was the dumbass zone not the old people conspiracy zone
like the uhhhh
Even past the attention span jokes people are doing some pretty dumb shit
the internet and it's consequences
Remember the one with people licking toilet seats?
too many
There was that guy that thought a dictionary would stop a point blank desert eagle shot and died cause of it and that was before tiktok
I think
Like
How the hell
Yeah idk
isn't deagle caliber 50bmg
Drink 6 four loco
50 action express
Internet stuff will always be dumb but tiktok is def not helping
.50 BMG won't fit in a pistol that is loaded from a magazine in the grip unless you have the largest hands on earth
Tbf i probably did my fair share of dumb shit in high school based off the internet but i did not die
We had a challenge where you would spray deodorant on your arm continously
well ever since humanity was allowed to be interconnected, it's been a downward spiral
so it will get worse
Surprise surprise a child got second degree burns and it was banned
we had a challenge where you'd put icey hot on your balls
Wait what
there IS a pistol that fires .50 BMG but it's a single shot breech loader afaik
Cinnamon challenge here
I remember a challenge involving putting gorilla glue in your hair
Or some trend rather than challenge
is that just one devised by parents to force their kids to get a haircut
No
it was a joke after some teen did it
I've seen people
I couldn't taste or smell shit for at least 4 hours
i think
Legit put it in their brows
Then there was one about the tank fluid
And the lighter..
And the one involving blinding yourself
Tide pods
That too
I do wonder how much of this is real
You have to be spectacularly dumb to put gorilla glue in your hair
it's a government psyop obviously
real enough for warning labels
And how much is gen Z trolling us
There was one involving breaking a part of your teeth
tooth shaping?
yea
Wow these challenges have really gone downhill
Stupid people are very stupid
Miss me with that tooth damage
There was the benadryl challenge too
Where they took a mass of benadryl
A girl died from it
See this is why i just stick to vidya
Then there was that NyQuil chicken thing
But I think you get the point at this point
700 mg club
Surviving the challenges has become the challenge
Benadryl gave me that paranoia aint touching that again
We geek hard
They gave me an IV dose of it at the ER and honestly it was worse than the reason i went in there first for.
For hours i felt they were gonna lock me up in the hospital and trap me there. Just the worst combination of max drowsy and max anxiety
I forgot about that
Idk if i ever got benadryl at a hospital, i dont think so tho
Maybe when i fractured my skull but tbh i doubt it and i dont remember
I got it when i was throwing up every morning
Ok this might be the best thing ever
Ah yeah that does make sense for it i suppose. Did it stop it or just make you drowsy
It did stop that feeling for a bit but eventually they put me on something else
Ah
And by eventually i just told them never put me on benadryl again
Max dosage would be pretty intense
Right in the IV too
I def didnt get benadryl then cause i had an IV in me for like 3 days but i wasnt drowsy
Although all i could do was sleep anyway lol
is that the same cat as mine
scottish straight
or something
color and patterns are kinda the same
idk she was labeled as domestic shorthair aka standard issue
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first time encountering this bug
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excellent steve
I think these are the first steve pics ive seen where he is awake
guys on the infintry lasguns
how low stability is acceptable?
i got this in store
I find it to not be a huge deal although zealot will get suppressed with them easily fair warning
should be fine I think
though yeah I don't enjoy playing the lasguns on zealot
auto gun
Hey everyone, any build that would make it super easy to get "Abhor the Mutant"? (Kill a mutant with a melee attack while dashing from Chastise the Wicked)
the Heavy Sword Mk 9?
Any of them
okay as long as it's a heavy sword, got it. I will look for a build that works around that. Thanks!
Np
Zealot is so goddamn fun holy shit
I mean I do that like probably 5 times a mission with an eviscerator, so I'd imagine any relatively fast swinging, high damage melee would work
oh mutant
mutant specifically got turned into special generally in my head lol
It's honestly just a matter of timing and playing chicken with it
You could reorganize those ferrets to make it look like they're running out of printer ink.
One could
Indeed. Theoretically.
wait, why has the shouty build channel disappeared?
Ok, thx.
you can access it on PC via the spool of thread icon in the top right of discord, left of hte pin symbol
dunno about mobile
day 2 of me wanting a force greatsword
It's ok, I will wait for the next patch for people to come back to discuss the build.
My build is relatively stable now. I wish they buff Evi's light stagger.
I mean, come on, I can't stagger gunners with five stacks of Punishment.
we're more likely to get a power greatsword. force weapons are over on psyker
Does anyone know how much damage/stagger does the MkVIII combat axe special do?
Oh wait, nevermind. You can see it ingame
I can get the Abhor the Mutant on the easiest difficulty, right? As long as the achievement doesn't say "on x difficulty"
It can be any
How do I get good gear?
pray for god Emperor , hope and grind money for hadron
Yeah but like. How does the shop decide the level of gearscore it's offering?
It also ignores some stagger resistance, you can stagger mutants w/ it.
Is it like a slightly better than my average gear? So I should always buy better? Or?
Which light are you using? Fairly sure you can floor gunners with two of them.
You basically buy greys from brunt till you get a desirable stat roll
And then upgrade it
The hourly shop is totally random and unlikely to get you anything good consistently
It could give a god roll it could give a 20% damage roll sword
There is way too much information in this game for me to even begin to know what I should and shouldn't be upgrading. 😦 weapon type tons of stats and combinations. Fuuug.
based off ur lvl ish
Yeah you are technically more likely to get 380s at level 30 but
Its by no means guaranteed
If you dont know what to upgrade just ask here
once u hit lvl 30 ur getting the best gear u can get, but its just entirely RNG what gear score it will be
I see. And 30 is still the cap? I'm 30 on everything but ogryn
30 is cap
Just haven't played in ages.
You can ask stuff here theres usually at least one knowledgeable person around
So how much did zealot change with the new talents?
alot
I use BA/PF on it. Running Judgement, Anoint, and Fury of the Faithful. The thing still has 1 niche going for it and that's maniac dps. Can also be fun on an exe stance vet build for a few reasons.
Decent bit but same idea behind diving enemies
than grind and buy weapons from brunt grey ones. until best one with a good %
And forcing shooters into melee
And did they ever make the thunder hammer feel better? Know people complained that you would fully charge a hit only to have a grunt walk in and tank the blow for a big guy.
good means 70+%
Thammer will still have that happen
Real players get by with ilvl 300 white gear
That tzeenchian pussy got me acting outside the expected flow of time and space
Part of the skill curve is knowing how to avoid it
Ironhelm will go through stuff tho
Revy pfp 🐐‼️
The psyker shield seems to have put a huge damper on the dangerousness of shooters which is nice.
That's the point of it. It absolutely obliterates whatever it hits. It's just unfortunate if it hits a grunt
Based Revy
You can stack absurd amounts of damage and toughness DR. Probs akin to 3-4x the damage output.
buuut if its too big an issue ironhelm now exists
not as powerful a bonk but has cleave until elite
Is there a meta melee weapon nowadays? Or is it sort of just playstyle dependant?
do i need to try upgrade this ? or meh
crusher meta 
Hsword/caxe are top 2 imo
Rip dagger
Knife pog
Crusher/chain weapons/Crusher/hammer below it
Most things are good now
Devils claw
On Zel you can make every melee weapon work great, but Taxe requires the most effort.
I will die on this hill. Ironhelm does not exist. I have no legitimate reason to hate it so much but I need something to stand against and that's what i've chosen.
shhh
What is Ironhelm exactly?
Nothing. It's not real.
without darcy here to fight you have fallen upon hard times
Well when it stacked bleed infinitely it was def better
Lol
A thammer that acts more as a cleaver
New hammer
Knife can be fine if you cover it's weakness.
where is my lacerate snowball machine
That does less damage than the crucis
Less special damage, but cleaves stuff
Yeah
alternate thunderhammer version, has a different attack set and its special cleaves normal enemies and stops on elites, but doesn't do as much damage as original thammer
Yes. That's the last time I played people arguing bleed build vs combat axe
Most of the regulars here are just too agreeable. There's no DRAMA.
20% less bonk damage on the H1 and H2, 10% less on H3
It's okay, I can say knife has decent horde clear
bleed always had a cap
Not on launch
it had a bug for a week or two
Shit was exponential
I should order a pizza
we need to bring back hard hitting synergies like bleed and haymaker
Yeah
You should
Bleed is something like 20x stronger than it was. Outside of whatever bug you're talking about. But it's still not good for damage.
You need to be locked up
where it could proc itself ye, but i don't think it was infinite just crazy high (31 cap like oggy flame stacks i think?)
We need more ways to instantly kill teammates
I dont like where this is going
Arco you literally died to a barrel recently
this is the future arco wants
I think we should just bring friendly fire back. 100% damage on damnation
barrels himself
surely I am not surrounded by psychopaths with a greater penchant for barrelling than me
I would never
vet plasma gunner instant kills entire party accidentily
wait no worse
I can check in a bit but I distinctly remember seeing a video of a damnation boss getting bled and the last tick of bleed took a little under half their health
rumbler glugger
Im clean
Fyi
that's what they all say
Ive never barreled you have i
the night is young
Mk XV light
Zealot fire nade should break teammate shields
be the change you want to see in the world
wtf
pushing teammates now knocks them back like plague ogryns
oh I know what will be fun
scrap friendly fire
shooting at teammates now staggers them
I mean, the MK II can even one tap scab gunners, surely I was talking about MK XV.
bullet magnetism but only for teamates
Put more uppercuts in the game so i can blast teammates off the map
So are zealots mostly melee nowadays or are bolter / flamer still plenty viable?
yeah
what the murder victim above said
flammer still melts everything, bolter is good but no longer kills entire crusher packs (without some setup)
Sell me Thunderhammers, havent tried em yet at all, whats their purpose besides one-tapping monstrosities?
Versus mode but it's only chaos spawn
most of zealot's talents have always been melee oriented, but the flamer used to be the best range weapon in game at launch. Now it's still great, but you're really only using it on hordes.
One tapping crushers afaik
having a 1 tap breakpoint on p much everything
Crusher one shots are a little annoying on thammer now
wide area horde control, lots of stagger (can stagger ragers)
Actually
Yeah. Flamer was absurd when I played lol
Like the only thing thats an annoying bp to hit
Flamer is still very very strong, but it's fallen out of favor because it doubles down on what the zealot already does super well
"X is only for hordes" is truly one of the top 10 things to say about a weapon and yet is almost always wrong
Alot of people think it's bad, somehow
I don't understand why you linked a video where a bunch of spawned ogryn stand around doing nothing
Showing dps probably
but flamer nerfed now arco it can't kill anything!
yeah, numbers are great in the land of theory
Its flamer killing 20 crushers
real, they never form packs
melee elite deathballs are not a real thing
never seen it
some say he is not real
shut up mittins
Actual application would be to do the same and then backpedal. You have ~21 meters of range to apply 5 seconds worth of fire. You can also throw a stun but it's not required.
mhm
Have you tried pressing spacebar
mankar was the one who got overheaded this time
do you even know what spacebar does
Sprint
orders a coke

plus teammates plus other specials plus other enemies plus terrain
do you think biden took out the diet coke button or has he been slamming that shit daily too
well plus teammates is in favor because they can go occupy the melee elite deathball
they can possibly even shoot at the deathball
arco you getting overhead isn't "occupying" the deathball
...
he does not get overheaded he has already blown himself up with perils
it does occupy there aggro for a brief time
i'm drawing aggro
true, im sorry i take that back
consider that most teammates are goobers who cannot have a single thought, or worse, they're xbox players with the reaction time of the council of ents.
Self detonation is the true psyker made
they don't have to be competent to draw aggro
they only need to be not-dead
teammates having the iq of a bovine with mad cow disease doesnt detract from the flamer tho
So the reason you can't do the same with flamer is because of other people
these are things that haven't changed since flamer was better
and it still worked then
so it still works now
yeah the changes to the flamer haven't really been that much
it was mostly just making it not a absurd weapon
yup
consider that in the original reply, I literally said it was still great, just that it wasn't the single best range weapon in game even without an entire class buffing it like veteran's suite of weapons.
ig you feel the ammo somewhat but
Slap on the wrist at best
the +other specials + other enemies part is usually overridden by the unlimited cleave part of the flamer. By the time you kill the crushers the enemies that were present and the enemies that walked into the fire halfway through are dead. The exception to this would be Bulwarks, which would require external help from a blitz or a teammate.
You said it was horde only which is untrue
i took issue with saying that it was only for the horde

ye the ammo change was prob the better part of the changes
Sh
If it means anything I can run Flamer a bunch today and I'll get a clip of it working.
The adults are talking
yes I did and it is true because if you use it on a single enemy you have brain frequencies equivalent to the shifting of the tectonic plates under the canadian shield.
It’s for horde only because I want to beat the crusher to death manually
tbf theres only for hordes and then killing more than a single enemy at a time
Also it’s not for hordes either
there is a vast spectrum between a horde and a single enemy
Nobody said it was to be used on a single enemy.
it has unlimited cleave that'd be wasteful
i would not consider elite packs to constitute a horde, and yet that would be where you might use the flamer
Flamer should have a special like the grenade gauntlet. Stick it directly into an enemies mouth and pull the trigger
It’s not really cleave, it’s aoe
get rid of the horde and all the non-horde within it 
based
thats an acceptable answer
meleeing crushers is fun
Crusheders
it makes me jump when i wanted to dodge, causing me to eat the crusher overhead
arco moment
this is not an arco moment
yes it is
u havent said bitch in a while r u ok
I enjoy stunlocking crushers with dueling sword
arco simply accepts his death, and attempts to perils faster than the crusher overhead can hit him
YOU CANT KILL ME, ONLY I CAN KILL ME!
i trusted josho to push the crusher in that one clip since he was playing ogryn
and i was let down
imagine having jump bound to a keyboard button
the simple solution is to bind jump to something else and then run into a vaultable part of the map for 10 seconds straight before realizing you have to use the new button
wtf
is it on mouse or some foot pedal
It's on my mouse
exhil plays with one of those omni treadmills
that is insane
SHIT, didnt even think of using my other thumb button to jump
has it bound to jumping irl
my othe other thumb button is for grenades
Spacebar is crouch for me
die
It's the easiest way for my big hands to dodge slide without risk of breaking my thumb
my man Arco
I have my PTT on my mouse. Because I'm not insane and use PTT
wtf is PTT
ppt
pp
I'm so disappointed in the younger generation
also, which glue is the tastiest?
Jump goes on spacebar. This is nonnegotiable
okay boomer
The pink one
how young do you think i am?
actually better question how old are you?
33
even i didnt think of push to talk at first
30
Old people
old bitches
I turn voice chat off in all online games I play and where possible, turn off text chat. It is the only acceptable way to play online, after you become an adult with a full time job.
Now excuse me while I shatter a hip getting up to go to the bathroom

