zealot-class

[frosty herald]

Like the krieg set

[ripe quest]

I was cackling the entire time

what is bro doing

[brave cypress]

I wish they used the kill team designs

[royal vortex]

it fucking kills me when he separately calls out the scab and dreg gunners

[brave cypress]

The old krieg concepts just look ugly to me

[wooden river]

They were probably going for the nostalgia factor

But the new Kriegers look better, yeah

[ripe quest]

the fucking intro sets up his character so well

[median steeple]

I really really hope if the scion chest piece comes out it doesn't look like ass

At least they're scions and not inquisitorial stormtroopers

[opaque island]

whats the mod called that lets people say vacuum capsule

[vocal pulsar]

for the vacuum capsule

[frosty herald]

Scions basically the elite of the guard

[median steeple]

no they're separate from the guard

Like commissars

[frank night]

racist

[royal vortex]

what

[median steeple]

The elite would be like karskins or the regiments own elite forces

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/853424105277882388/1116188425096278056/youd.gif

[opaque island]

where is it? Its not on nexus or anywhere i can see when i look it up

[royal vortex]

you have to play darktide on a smart fridge

[spare dome]

it was a samsung exclusivity deal

[opaque island]

[median steeple]

Look at that car

[ripe quest]

It came with my minecraft PE install

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/odl4fp @ripe quest this was cut to make it not as long

[spare dome]

what the hell is minecraft

[royal vortex]

but he also said this

[frank night]

ogryn gameplay racism is back

[royal vortex]

i had to complete my contracts

i will do anything for money

[frank night]

i see

$20 is $20

[royal vortex]

i cant make the joke i want to make here

[ripe quest]

massive enemy presence goes hard

[royal vortex]

Massive Enemy Presence (MEP)

[frank night]

i feel like this guy contributed more to the team by being a perma dead mission announcer voice

the effect on morale

[ripe quest]

Should've hit em with the "dead people can't talk" line

[royal vortex]

he had like 60k damage by the end

but he also joined mid mission

he replaced a psyker who got downed 80 meters behind us

not even GoonLord went back to save him

[frank night]

the jail control center side room

[royal vortex]

it was very descriptive

[ripe quest]

It's not like your teammates are highlighted on a linear level or anything

[royal vortex]

"bazillions of enemies around us" was another fantastic callout

this was right before he just started listening enemies

including

scab gunner (singular)
dreg gunner (multiple)

[ashen pecan]

massive enemy presence

[frank night]

massive enemy presence (rat dad has entered the door curtain)

[royal vortex]

LMFAO

[ripe quest]

Yeah we got some MEP over here guys

[royal vortex]

that guy was fun to listen to at least

[south folio]

wao josho got a motivational speaker during his solo clutch

[ashen pecan]

i hope that guy gets insanely immersed in the game

i almost envy people like that

[frank night]

i would take that guy 1000 times over some guy who was whining about being left to die

[ashen pecan]

dude living out his 40k life in realtime

[royal vortex]

better than the psyker who said "you guys must have perfect 380s to ignore all this plasteel"

[south folio]

true

[royal vortex]

and i had more plasteel picked up than him

[frank night]

put that guy over a 40k trailer

[opaque island]

100%

[frank night]

MASSIVE ENEMY PRESENCE

[royal vortex]

(surrounding us)

[ashen pecan]

(we are in the control room)

[royal vortex]

BESET ON ALL SIDES, THE CAPTURED HEROES FIND THEMSELVES IN THE MIDST OF A MASSIVE ENEMY PRESENCE

[ripe quest]

I would take a larper over any form of steam discussions or reddit player.

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

i love the larpers

except ogryn ones

any other form of larper is cool

[opaque island]

why?

[frank night]

bulwark, scab mauler, scab gunner, multiple dreg gunners

[royal vortex]

because theyre always fkin dead weight

[south folio]

nb4 you join a game in the midst of a knife argument

[ripe quest]

I've yet to find a Psyker larper and they've got like some of the best material available

[royal vortex]

and will actively grief you with eating ammo or blowing up poxbursters

[ripe quest]

Dude this actually happened to me

[south folio]

WHAT

[ashen pecan]

whys anyone argue with knife at this point

ppl gonna knife

[south folio]

i'm so sorry

[royal vortex]

premium intel

[ripe quest]

I was carrying a game and some people were arguing about whether or not the knife had good horde clear

[ashen pecan]

it can horde clear so who cares

[opaque island]

i agree its not the best at it but it can horde clear

[royal vortex]

oh there's also the specific breed of ogryn larper who takes a shield and spams taunt ult/push taunt on horde enemies

[ripe quest]

It'll eventually kill a horde sure but I think it's behind the line of 'good horde clear'.

[royal vortex]

instead of actually killing them

like please brother the weapon gets brutal momentum and can one shot anything up to and including bruisers

[ashen pecan]

i guess my point is that it doesn't matter, unless your team is getting incredibly overwhelmed its horde clear is an irrelevant point anyway

[royal vortex]

[opaque island]

the shield 1H is stupid strong

[south folio]

i would've just said something at the end screen and immediately left afterwards

[copper hawk]

Ohio?

[ashen pecan]

i would have just typed over them

[south folio]

ni hao

[opaque island]

say one thing and leave

chad move

[ripe quest]

My only input was that it was outpaced by laspistols and then I just stopped paying attention

[sharp zodiac]

Ive found a few

Why is there a loud ass fan playing

Oh

That's my music nvm

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/jqvucy oh yeah @south folio this was what happened

i got the luckiest fuckin dodgeslide to avoid the net

[sharp zodiac]

If you had Luna luck you would've never been there

[royal vortex]

i did not see the crushers walking up to the ledge

[south folio]

i would never jump off of a ledge before checking what was under there

is that the same game where i jumped off and immediately got trapped

[royal vortex]

maybe

yes

[ripe quest]

The argument extended prior to when I joined the match but it was a 'in a vacuum' type of deal. It has bad crowd damage vs. it has really good crowd damage. I've personally found it to be annoying against bruisers to mixed hordes enough to warrant at least a Kant to soften them.

At one point I saw chainsword get listed as a middle ground between good and bad crowd damage and I was like "yeah this argument isn't it"

[royal vortex]

ppl will rate weapons entirely on vibes

and i respect it

no numbers, no thoughts

[brazen hollow]

is the mk II or mk IV hammer better?

or is it preference

[ripe quest]

what is it with that room always being nasty if you try to solo it

just the other day I went in, didn't know my team took the long route, and was met with a similar enemy composition

[ashen pecan]

idk why you wouldn't wanna go the button route anyway

all that shit is gonna come out the door either way

[frank night]

massive enemy presence surrounding you

[royal vortex]

my main problem is that ascension riser genuinely has some of the worst room-to-room map geometry in the game

and u get stuck on random shit constantly

[south folio]

it was a single trapper ok

[royal vortex]

that area is actually the only part i like because it's got some cool stuff going on with the hole in the middle

[frank night]

she was very big it's ok to be scared

[royal vortex]

getting stuck in the area by a couple unfortunately placed bombers behind an elite pack can go really bad

because they can kinda just camp the door esp if other stuff is blocking actually getting out

[ashen pecan]

i guess... it's just such a big area

[ripe quest]

I usually just skip it because it's faster and I'm also braindead and will take falldamage each time due to muscle memory

[royal vortex]

yeah and then it becomes super tiny if you aggro an elite patrol with a special wave cuz they can force you into that tiny spot by the dropdown

[ripe quest]

I keep going down the like, broken railing part and eating 15 damage

[royal vortex]

while being able to spawn behind you/shoot through enemies

[ashen pecan]

maybe i just play a bit more patiently idk

[royal vortex]

i go there sometimes to grab plasteel but if u get unlucky its way less safe

it has nothing to do with pacing it's a matter of not getting urself cornered more than anything

because that room is really awful to be in if things go sideways

whereas if ur in the open area when the bad shit begins its just easier to move around and avoid death

[median steeple]

if the director says die there is not much you can do there

[frank night]

josho cannot move sideways he will become possessed and fall off a cliff

many such cases

[ripe quest]

It can be a bit constricting when you're in a corner like that and have a large space right outside of it, specials can be annoying w/ that setup. I don't recall the map but there's a section on top of railways with a tiny side hallway that usually has pickups, I've had some very shit moments when a StG wave pops up while I'm in there.

[median steeple]

the ghost of crabs hijack him?

[ripe quest]

There's also a spawn door in there that will occasionally bomb you with a silent burster but that's not the biggest threat ever

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/x0j4tr

i was MURDERED

[frank night]

the scream clip is still under top secret wraps

[royal vortex]

(i didnt clip it)

[frank night]

i will use it as my 'do i have dementia yet' test memory

[median steeple]

I hope you can find a cure for this condition

see a priest

[ripe quest]

what the

fix your internet wtf josho

[ashen pecan]

lmao

[median steeple]

but like seriously wtf

[royal vortex]

dude this doesnt even compare to some of the shit that happens to crab

[frank night]

it was very surreal to be doing the mission

[royal vortex]

there is a clip of him just spontaneously dying

[ripe quest]

the higher the skill the more that Fatshark will personally throw rocks at you

[frank night]

and then hear a spider man villain being dragged to his death on live comms

[royal vortex]

twice

[median steeple]

LMAO

I do not vibe with this universe

[royal vortex]

u can see me furiously attemping to un-ads the bolter

[median steeple]

problems can be fixed with sleeping them away

its a future me problem

[frank night]

u ever hear

LET ME DODGE

screamed

in absolute terror

[royal vortex]

i had a couple of incidents that match

[median steeple]

plot forced death

no way to stop i t

[royal vortex]

where control was removed from me and put in the hands of a vengeful poltergeist

[fleet zealot]

Josho screams give me life

Call me monsters inc

[median steeple]

you must stop sleeping in graveyards at night

[ripe quest]

I recently developed a personal bug for my client when I was fucking with some lua mod and hud tweaker but sometimes my game will just spam press "w" left click and F24 which is my weapon special button.

I have to alt tab every time it happens

[fleet zealot]

Like the worst i had was watching an entire horde run in the air above me before the game resynced to me getting beat to death

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[royal vortex]

i have had times where my game actually glues my hands to the bolter

[fleet zealot]

Seeing all those filthy nurgle feet made me wanna vom

[royal vortex]

and all i can do is ads as something beats me to death

the ai director is sick of me complaining about difficulty

and has decided to teach me a lesson

[royal vortex]

i am so glad i do not try to fuck with my game

i would make it unplayable very quickly

[median steeple]

you know

there is a recurring theme with these incidents

you using the bolter

[royal vortex]

it happens with a brauto too

well any gun really

its just worse on certain ones

[fleet zealot]

Yea sticky fingers sucks

[median steeple]

cursed weapons were added to the game but only to your account

[royal vortex]

it happens to crab too

im not crazy

[fleet zealot]

Idk if its an animation issue or what but i love swapping to my melee to block only for my gun to magically reappear in my hands

So i can get that closeup view

[royal vortex]

me when i use a revolver and any special activation weapon

and mysteriously begin pistol whipping my enemies

[median steeple]

server issue?

happens to me a bunch

[royal vortex]

there's a lot of server-client desync issues

[ripe quest]

What one must do to achieve peak QoL

[median steeple]

bros being possessed by weapons passed

[royal vortex]

there's a crab clip where the server and client are disagreeing on his stamina usage while in deadshot

so his stamina bar is fkin going up and down at the same time

[ripe quest]

I remember that one

looked like the stamina bar was playing trombone

[royal vortex]

madness

[median steeple]

actual fucking circus

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/covie9 @coarse birch @south folio the ogryn

who ate the ammo

[median steeple]

glutton

[coarse birch]

I was so mad

[royal vortex]

he had a crit bleed ripper

he simply had first priority

[ripe quest]

Oh dude that's another one on my list

[median steeple]

he was an og on a job

[ripe quest]

I really want to try that out

To match the spirit I'll eat all the ammo as well

[royal vortex]

flechette on ripper is 8 per hit

[ripe quest]

mhm

[royal vortex]

instead of 6 on human shotguns

which is strange

[ripe quest]

Not sure why that is, I don't see any logic that would line up with that

[royal vortex]

my assumption is because ogryn has less crit sources

[ripe quest]

Maybe because of worse crit blessings and talents?

[royal vortex]

yea

[fading vale]

it's cause bleed is OP

[royal vortex]

give rippers lacerate

[ripe quest]

lacerate can opener rippers

[spare dome]

give Purgatus lacerate

[polar nexus]

give rippers manstopper and scattershot

[royal vortex]

manstopper ripper would be smth else

[median steeple]

3000 lacerate flesh tearer rippers of og

[ripe quest]

Man-stopper Ripper would be comically stupid

imagine unlimited cleave fire ammo on Glugger

[sharp zodiac]

Currently watching a zel light spam with heavy sword

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

[sharp zodiac]

Also I was the only one who could deal with the ranged threats

(I died)

Oh my gof

They didn't know where the button was in foundry

This is an auric mal

[fleet zealot]

ahahahahaha

[median steeple]

I REFUSE to believe someone in auric doesn't know where a beta map obj is

no one can be that dumb

[fleet zealot]

mk9 strat headtaker rampage style

[median steeple]

god I hope not

[fleet zealot]

prepare to be disappointed

[median steeple]

[fleet zealot]

there is people who don't realize endless horde sections are endless and YOU NEED TO DO THE OBJECTIVE

[sharp zodiac]

We lost btw

[sharp zodiac]

Like bro

[median steeple]

its so over....

[fleet zealot]

and nOT STAND IN A CORNER WHILE YOU SLOWLY GET CHIPPED TO DEATH

[median steeple]

omfg this makes me sick to my stomach

[fleet zealot]

hahaha

i know this type of player

will always have someoen else do the objective for them

[median steeple]

GOD THE IT'S RIGHT THERE PLEASE

[sharp zodiac]

The other one light spammed on mutants and orgyn's with the eviscerator

The ogryn was actually somewhat competent at least

Unfortunately we were both dead

[median steeple]

im gonna

its too much

[south folio]

mald

[sharp zodiac]

One of them had a boltor and didn't even do anything with it besides lose ammo

I was the only one dealing with the snipers and specials

So imagine my suprise seeing them popping chorus JUST to rush down a few snipers

A sniper railed me while I was occupied with 2 trappers and 3 flamers

[royal vortex]

tell the sniper no next time

[sharp zodiac]

He couldnt hear me Josho

I said no many times

[royal vortex]

😔

[ripe quest]

oh dear my game isn't looking normal anymore

[sharp zodiac]

I'm not doing that auric mal again lmao despite it being my favorite map

[ripe quest]

spreadsheet lookin ass

[coarse birch]

rip luna

lost the teammate rng

[sharp zodiac]

I don't want that weight on me again

[coarse birch]

i hope you cease to exist

[median steeple]

I hope one day someone can downgrade their graphics enough to look like ET on Atari

[sharp zodiac]

Before the very first objective

[median steeple]

yeah it was fucking over before it started

was any of them running martyr?

[sharp zodiac]

No

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673

[royal vortex]

it hasnt been for quite a while

[sharp zodiac]

I do't even want to imagine the final part of the mission

[ripe quest]

Sometimes I wonder what a fatshark employee would say if they saw my client

especially like, a texture or model designer

[median steeple]

like those videos where devs react to speedruns

[south folio]

i'm sure that they'd be proud

whoever was responsibile for the lighting would be, at least, i suppose

[ripe quest]

Yeah it would be a bit like "Your entire job has no presence in my game"

[royal vortex]

every time arco plays with bloom he says to me

and i quote

"i dont know how you play with this"

[south folio]

why would fatshark hire people that implement features to lower my fps

smh

[south folio]

you're built different

[royal vortex]

i just turned it on to make hammers look cooler

and it has stuck

[median steeple]

does it actually make them look cooler

I feel like this is bloom propaganda

[royal vortex]

it does

[median steeple]

by big lightbulb

[royal vortex]

they get all shiny

[crimson shale]

Can you open bulwark shields with agripina shotgun?

[royal vortex]

yes

with the slug

[crimson shale]

Cool, it’s what I’ll use with the chain sword then

Can wreck everything but bulwarks kinda suck as a pack

[median steeple]

remember you have grenades

unless you are using knives

[crimson shale]

Yeah on that build I’m trying knives

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-ashh-baby-ia-gif-16729153814109504694

God

[sharp zodiac]

Ashen one when he gives birth

(Ashen baby)

[median steeple]

I dont know how to respond ngl

[drifting wolf]

they should have worn headgear

[median steeple]

this broke me for the rest of the night

[crimson shale]

Guess you use no respite and the blessing for all ammo’s to hit the target?

On agripina ?

[royal vortex]

yeah

[sharp zodiac]

Headwear was not one of the things they had in mind

Especially that ogryn

God why does he look like that

[ripe quest]

It's not quite the same but you can also just shoot through the shield with the fire round on the Kant. It'll hit them through the shield and 2 hits max stacks.

[median steeple]

he needed to show off his auric brand

[crimson shale]

I already got a build with the Kant so I wanted to try something else hehe

Everyone running columnus now, it’s kinda dull

[ripe quest]

Thank god it isn't nearly as bad as the pinning fire days

Columnus is strong but not that strong

[polar nexus]

there's a bit more variety

it's not bolter and shredder anymore, it's rev + plasma + ciag

[ripe quest]

I wouldn't even say those three are the only ones being used. Back in the PF days you'd rarely ever find anything but the Boltgun and SAP. Currently you can run anything save for a few weapon variants that don't hold up.

I've found randoms will lean more into Revolver than others but the diversity is still there.

Like, current Columnus IAG is remarked as being the best but it's a minor number change away from being balanced with the other two variants.

[abstract berry]

off to an okay start?

[ripe quest]

Rev and Plasma are more unique cases at least. Even then Plasma has some downsides to it.

[abstract berry]

or is the mobility too low

[ripe quest]

That's mega solid, roll it

You just want >50% mobility to hit the dodge breakpoint.

[abstract berry]

rolled greent to blue and got sav sweep

[ripe quest]

Get it to orange and see what it has, you have a high chance at a god roll with it

[abstract berry]

rampage/momentum are ideal for martyr?

[ripe quest]

For the XV it's Rampage + anything except bloodletter, rev it up, and perfect strike.

[abstract berry]

word ty!

[polar nexus]

i wish rev it up was 5s

[ripe quest]

I wish rev it up provided something in addition to the movement speed.

If it had like, a 10% attack speed increase on it I'd like it more

But like most utility blessings it's just gonna be drowned out by damage related ones until something changes.

[south folio]

give it the ol' powderburn treatment

lasagna

[jaunty escarp]

you guys think this is worth?

i havent tried the new chainsword yet

[vocal pulsar]

nope

low finesse

[ripe quest]

def not worth it

[jaunty escarp]

fanku

my 2am brain is rattled i didnt even notice the finesse

[royal vortex]

weapon diversity (esp at the "top level") has gone up quite significantly yea

the problem was before u didnt have many alternatives to "the meta" that werent just straight up terrible dogshit with few real upsides

[vivid hawk]

keep as is?

[royal vortex]

yea

[vivid hawk]

should I swap maniac to flak?

just realized it wasn't flak

[royal vortex]

i think (can't remember exactly) maniac gives you a breakpoint for one-shotting dreg ragers with headtaker up

[vivid hawk]

gonna swap it to flak for now

since flak is more common

[rugged rock]

any suggestions on changes to these outside of getting the level 4 blessings?

[vocal pulsar]

Swap momentum to rampage on that eviscerator

Swap unyielding to carapace

[north sedge]

get a new revolver

[rugged rock]

I tried rampage but momentum feels like it has so much more survivability

[wraith helm]

On the revolver, can change the blessings to handcannon and surgical. Honestly the reload speed isnt bad with how much damage you are already doing

[rugged rock]

I like crucian roulette because I always only keep 1 in the chamber to take use of Emperor's Bullet

[vocal pulsar]

It's not at all needed, unless for a very specific use case

In a build that has no toughness generating feats

[vivid hawk]

am I "meta" now?

[wraith helm]

Just a suggestion. You get the crit chance rucian roulette offers in less than half a second of ADSing

and more the longer you aim

[rugged rock]

fair point

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/ss888b

god bless the hs7

[rugged rock]

is there a way to 1 shot on headshot for flamers? They're the only thing that really bothers this build

[north sedge]

get a better revolver

basically

surgical + higher dmg stat would clinch it

[rugged rock]

Yeah... spent the last 20 missions building this eviscerator

[vivid hawk]

@royal vortex what's a good build for HS? Standard momentum?

[royal vortex]

any of the keystones work really

blazing piety is nice because hsword has good enough finesse for it but u cant go wrong with marty or momentum because its a v solid weapon regardless

[vivid hawk]

imagine having build variety

now I have to choose

instead of having the illusion of choice

[royal vortex]

😔

if you go marty the 9 is funny because you can take vicious offering and spam heavy attacks into a horde for infinite toughness

[vivid hawk]

prefer the 6 tbh, mostly because I think it looks the best

[ripe quest]

not even showing off getting a 5k

that's like half the reason deathblow is nutty on the Hswords

[royal vortex]

if i was showing off something hsword specific i would clip when i get a bodyshot on a target and then get a weakspot on 2 subsequent ones and still proc bm

(which is absolutely demented)

[ripe quest]

That's also a fun one. Having built in BM is pretty cool

[vivid hawk]

what are the good melee combos for mk6 HS?

[royal vortex]

u cant go wrong with lightspamming for crowds and heavies for single target

the 2nd heavy is a lil more workable if u wanna try to hit multiple elites in a swing to proc deathblow

so u can do like l1-h2 unless my memory of the moveset is wrong

[vivid hawk]

would the mk6 be better suited to HT and Rampage then?

[royal vortex]

u can do it but i dont generally find much reason to

regardless of swing arc u will proc deathblow on dense elite crowds

https://streamable.com/330l1p

itll also still help with general horde clear on the lights so ur not losing a huge amount

[ripe quest]

It's odd because I feel like the IX would pair best with HT + Rampage but also you get so much value out of Deathblow on the IX

What a meta-warping blessing does to a weapon

[rose flower]

Anyone have a really basic skill tree points thing for a relic zealot build

Not sure how to put points on the skill tree tbh

[fading vale]

pls let me play

[hushed knoll]

I LOVE HIM

[copper hawk]

is this the vi?

the hs

[royal vortex]

the 7

[copper hawk]

mashaallah ?

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/scarab-beetle-flying-go-my-scarab-gif-1372646788661438174

[maiden path]

erm hello chat

[hushed knoll]

GO MY SCARAB

[ivory marlin]

hi stan

hows life

[fleet zealot]

i counter ur scarab with RAID

not to be confused with raid shadow legends

[tame mirage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753683728169041991/1171527622640025620/attachment-4.gif

[ivory marlin]

what

[fleet zealot]

ahh yes

my (L:) key

[ivory marlin]

wtf

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[tame mirage]

I HATE MICROSOFT!

[wraith helm]

I'd like linux more if more of my games worked well on it

[sharp zodiac]

All clean now

[bleak phoenix]

hey shouties, what gun is good on zealot for monstrosity dmg? I am mono psyker I know nothing about guns

[vocal pulsar]

Flamer, bolter

[spare dome]

bolbgun

[fading vale]

vraks 3

[copper hawk]

Meowcrosoft

[sharp zodiac]

Uh, ok then

Average NA run

[south folio]

which coast was this on

[maiden path]

the one tupac lives in

[sharp zodiac]

East

[south folio]

good

that's the level that i expect from east coast

[spare dome]

im east coast, and ive never scored more than 260 with a wiimote in my ass

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/aubrey-eat-summer-tip-memes-eat-all-dough-in-the-house-gif-9475445506285506698

[woeful oyster]

Zealot chat is different, man.

[modern kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-shaqoneal-excited-dance-gif-8818184967646032189

[woeful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-clint-eastwood-coffee-gif-4550317

[modern kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-javi-gutierrez-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-happy-gif-25135496

[abstract berry]

thouhts on salvaging? i've got rampage 3 i can apply

[median steeple]

I mean if you want an evis for a Crit build that's pretty good

[abstract berry]

i play martyrdom

[modern kelp]

Unyirlding, flak, savage sweep, momentum.

[fading vale]

sprint to flak savage to rampage

[abstract berry]

rampage over momentum if im martyrdom?

[median steeple]

Yes

Momentum is the Keystone

Or effect

[modern kelp]

I like momentum for martyrdom

[fading vale]

you don't need more toughness outside the tree unless you need more toughness

which you shouldn't but

if you do you can take it I guess

[median steeple]

So true

[abstract berry]

ty for the advice gang

[hushed knoll]

You should bedge

[fading vale]

You first, you are an hour ahead

[hushed knoll]

WTF

Since when

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-sassy-molassy-gif-25074369

[hushed knoll]

DOUGH NO

GO TO BEDGE

[indigo ridge]

okay it seems the eviscerator swings faster than the heavy sword and that's hilarious to me

[fleet zealot]

do not fall into the temptation of sin kindred

remain faithful to the god emperor

[heavy arch]

just played with a zealot with thunderhelm but he never wanted to fight bosses

just kept on horde clearing......

[fleet zealot]

probably never got/used thrust

[unique elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-knife-running-with-knives-gif-13862209

100% of knife zealot runs

(and it's good and fun)

[fleet zealot]

i'm in your walls

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/spunch-i-am-in-your-walls-mfs-when-gif-26266635

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/arson-ferret-committing-arson-ferret-dance-dancing-gif-27027032

beat you to it

cause i'm always one step ahead

[fair igloo]

When i use the crusher are there specific things i should be doing against large groups of things like ragers and gunners to kill them faster? Or

Cuz I notice the horde comboes do like nothing to them and the only way to kill them relatively quickly is with the singletarget combo 1 at a time

[north sedge]

Generally that, can mix in push attack headshots when you can

[fair igloo]

hmmm okay

[south folio]

you can also mix in the power of gun since they'll be debuffed with skullcrusher and take +80% damage

[fair igloo]

i didn't think about that actually

[south folio]

same

i only thought about it just now

[fleet zealot]

activated l1 to knock em down

overheads to beat them down on the head as they recover

if you need to, use the l1 h2 sweeps to make space or reactivate

and yee, push attack headshot also great precision tool

[ripe quest]

If you want the laziest application of this run a Kant, puff them with the special shot, apply SC w/ the Crusher. If it's flak or carapace you can use Fury to further buff the damage.

[fair igloo]

Well I just specifically meant kill them faster cuz i'd knock them down and then go to kill them 1 at a time and then all my kills are stolen
Which isn't a bad thing cuz i'm still helping clear in that aspect it's just less satisfying for me Lol

[ripe quest]

to note the armor downgrade will stop affecting the fire after 3 seconds or if you land a melee hit

[fleet zealot]

that's kinda just the

thing with crusher

[fair igloo]

yeaaa it makes sense
primarily a CC weapon

[fleet zealot]

it's a combo weapon but each move is distinct and isn't really good at the other thing

no it's a killing weapon

[ripe quest]

w/ the Crusher you're best bet is you stagger and use the ST combo or a ranged weapon. Unfortunately it isn't going to outdamage certain ranged weapons or melee weapons in situations with a clump of elites.

[fleet zealot]

you just kinda have to choose sometimes to slow down your individual single target for safer sweeps and activated attacks

and just practice helps a lot, knowing how much time and space you can make

[ripe quest]

It's great at fodder/bruiser damage and ST damage. With some weapons your best bet it taking one elite out at a time.

[fleet zealot]

like, how long you have after hitting a rager pack with an active does it take for them to get back up, stopping you from doing overheads unless you put them all back down

[hidden verge]

pretty good for a melk weapon?

[fleet zealot]

That first target rip

Thats a heavy blow

[polar nexus]

just rip bm4

[elfin steppe]

I have reason to believe they made the plasma the new boltgun.

[hidden verge]

yeah that's what im going to do

[polar nexus]

with none of the drawbacks

[woeful oyster]

groaners and poxwalkers

[exotic portal]

Locked

[exotic portal]

Got this one too

[polar nexus]

that burn burns

[elfin steppe]

Did they nerf the chainaxe?

[polar nexus]

no?

[hidden verge]

doesn't seem so, I don't see any difference

[woeful oyster]

Try this on for size

[hidden verge]

about flamer, which one is better? the burst or continous?

[woeful oyster]

burst is for stagger

alt fire is for killin heretics

[exotic portal]

You'd run up, slide and burst into full auto

Helps running through matches

[ripe quest]

They've only been buffing it.

[hidden verge]

I see, thanks

[exotic portal]

sliding doesn't slow movement

[exotic portal]

Why not maniac instead for flak?

[ripe quest]

Am I missing something? That's an Evis.

[woeful oyster]

why not carapace? idk man probably because there's more flak on the field.

[exotic portal]

Fair, but tried cara

Tried elites too

Doesn't seem like flames render on armor

[hidden verge]

fan the flame isn't good?

[fair igloo]

I barreled someone off a ledge and then got netted while I was typing an apology 😭 😭

[ripe quest]

Fairly sure it doesn't work rn. There aren't any meaningful changes w/ it.

[exotic portal]

No mercy. -Emporor

[elfin steppe]

I was expecting higher damage.

[exotic portal]

Try with the 4x bloodletter blessing

[ripe quest]

It's already known that the Mk XV Evis is better at Unyielding than the Chaxe.

[fleet zealot]

No not really

Flamer left click has great stagger already, boosting it doesnt give you much

[elfin steppe]

how, the last time I saw you dealt more damage, did I remember it wrong?

[hidden verge]

I made this flamer few days ago but can't decide what kind of perk

[hidden verge]

thanks

[ripe quest]

It's been the same since the weapon came out, Mk XV pulls ahead with Unyielding damage.

[fleet zealot]

And for bigger enemies you are usually better off using chastise and right clicking for big damage

[polar nexus]

unyielding instead of infested

[elfin steppe]

I didn't have T4 thrust back then so I never tried it.

[fleet zealot]

Have they fixed overpressure yet

[polar nexus]

and hmm, carapace could be useful in scab melee, but i would probalbly put flak or elite

[woeful oyster]

For the ammo it's just better to deal as much damage with it than to use it for stagger. That's why we all go with BA/OP

[fleet zealot]

Carapace is hyper niche

[hidden verge]

there we go

[fleet zealot]

Overpressure is bugged rn

[polar nexus]

you bricked your flamer

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/tight-cool-nice-awesome-fogell-gif-17098274

[hidden verge]

wut 😮

[fleet zealot]

So feel free to swap it to whatever

[ripe quest]

Once OP gets fixed that'll be very nice.

[fleet zealot]

Doesnt matter as long as you can swap back

It isnt bricked tho

[woeful oyster]

"Future Proof"

[fleet zealot]

Far from it

Future proofed

[polar nexus]

t3 is as valid as t4 and you missed the chance to change another perk

[hidden verge]

what is the bug with OP

[elfin steppe]

Nah, nobody is gonna use bleed on chainaxe.

[fleet zealot]

Wat

[ripe quest]

It only affects the direct damage, not the burn.

[fleet zealot]

Perks are fine with chastise

[elfin steppe]

You have slaughterer why would you ever consider bloodletter?

[fleet zealot]

In fact great for big ogryn packs and monstros

[ripe quest]

On Zel's flamer the burn is 90-95% of the damage

[woeful oyster]

Boss damage Without having to touch the boss

[polar nexus]

he could have kept op3

[ripe quest]

You get far more boss damage from Headtaker than Bloodletter.

[fleet zealot]

Blaze away caps at t3 and overpressure 4 is future proofed now

[polar nexus]

and switch between flak or carapace depending on the mood, the bp he wants

[fleet zealot]

No because when if overpressure gets fixed

[polar nexus]

who cares?

[fleet zealot]

Plus you can swap it

To a usuable blessing rn

[polar nexus]

the difference between t3 is t4

[fleet zealot]

Ie quickflame or showstopper

[polar nexus]

usuable?

lmao

[fleet zealot]

They arent good

[polar nexus]

more like, not bugged but mostly useless

[fleet zealot]

But they do their job

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/torch-dean-supernatural-torching-everybody-gif-23089093

[woeful oyster]

Hey, I like thrust and BL. tis good to do damage in between chaos spawn agro

[polar nexus]

having the choice in perks is better

[fleet zealot]

Even if its a joke but its bot bricked

Stupid claim

[ripe quest]

You can like it but it does less damage than Headtaker.

[fleet zealot]

Perks are fine, flamer is a crusher melter with chastise

[hidden verge]

well if bad come to worst I can swap the flamer's op4 to something else, then back to op3

[polar nexus]

i said it was valid

[woeful oyster]

blah blah

[polar nexus]

but it's niche

[polar nexus]

carapace is locked

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-meme-gif-27557281

[polar nexus]

and unyielding is very nice

[hidden verge]

can always make another one later down the road I guess

[ripe quest]

+Carapace makes it really easy to kill a Crusher in 1 fury ult.

[fleet zealot]

You missed a s at the end of crushers

[ripe quest]

mhm

[fleet zealot]

Or crusher packs

[polar nexus]

by removing the possibility of changing the perks by going for the t4 of a bugged blessing and keeping the possibility to put..?

[fleet zealot]

Missing a word

[north sedge]

Flamer perks are "nice to haves" anyway, nothing is super necessary

[fleet zealot]

The perks matter even less, the only real alternative is flak and maybeeee maniac. Carapace is fine for flamer

[polar nexus]

maniac?

[hidden verge]

so I just need to trigger fury/chastise, pull out the flamer and burn stuff?

[fleet zealot]

Dreg rager packs yes

[fleet zealot]

Bit wrong order

[ripe quest]

Burn stuff, hit max stacks of burn, then ult.

[woeful oyster]

you stack burn and then trigger fury

[hidden verge]

got it

[fleet zealot]

Start burning stuff, press F when you grt close to max burn stacks

[polar nexus]

elite works on them, and crushers too

[hidden verge]

oh so I need to use fury build for this?

[fleet zealot]

elite is 10%

[polar nexus]

10s ago perks did not mattered

now, we're debating about 10 or 25

[royal vortex]

obviously flamer only kills one crusher a canister 🙄

[ripe quest]

Fury of the Faithful yeah, however the armor downgrade on it is only for Flak and Carapace enemies. Flamer already deletes flak, it's specifically for Crushers.

[fleet zealot]

Basically yes, it isnt impossible to use but fury changes flamer from a chafe burner to a proper war crime in your hands

[ripe quest]

Flamer is potent regardless of what ult you use.

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-balh-blah-balh-bla-bla-shut-up-bro-gif-25742861

[ripe quest]

I like that the Purge staff has Fury of the Faithful built in for Flak enemies.

[fleet zealot]

At this point you are just arguing to keep yourself angry so have a good evening sir madam or enby

[polar nexus]

oO

[hidden verge]

how do I tell max burn stack? never tried flamer before 😊

[ripe quest]

I also enjoy how perfectly balanced™️ flamer is

[ripe quest]

If you don't use mods use your ammo count. A tiny bit over 15 ammo should be enough.

[fleet zealot]

At 76% burn stat, you can get up to 16 stacks

[royal vortex]

this is just because ppl got mad soulblaze was hit with the same damage nerf to flak as flamer was way back in ye olden times when fs hadnt received the great psword mald

[fleet zealot]

^

[ripe quest]

Oh yeah the max stacks will be in the stat card.

[fleet zealot]

I think damage changes burn intensity too

Which is how many stacks per tick

[ripe quest]

No that is in burn as well.

[fleet zealot]

And burn also changes how fast those ticks happen

[hidden verge]

look like mine can do 15 stacks

[ripe quest]

The damage intensity on damage is for direct damage iirc

[fleet zealot]

So is it damage just listed twice

I hate fatshark

[polar nexus]

i am not angry at all, i am past that age on the internet, but hey, if that's your way of ending a discussion, cya

[prime ridge]

Hellooooo

[ripe quest]

My understanding is that burn ticks have an internal tick rate that's the same for all Flamers. The damage stat affects the direct damage and how often it ticks, and the burn stat lists max stacks and the stack application rate.

[prime ridge]

Not every day you find a max roll curio

[fleet zealot]

I just feed melk my 250 coins gavha

And eventually get some

Gavha?

Gacha

[ripe quest]

So the burn and bleed intervals are .5, and warpfire it's .75.

[opal star]

could you imagine if the mutant played more like the charger from l4d2 and just slammed you over and over and over and ov

[potent crescent]

I gotta come clean

Zealot headgear sucks ass

[spare talon]

do i fix this with just a restart or do i gotta verify files

[dim tapir]

I would try a heavy degreasing agent

[ripe quest]

@royal vortex am I crazy or is grenade tinkerer on Kraks only for bosses

[royal vortex]

YES

caps

[ripe quest]

hmm

that's kinda dumb

I was half expecting a hidden radius increase or smth

[royal vortex]

grenade tinkerer is one of those nodes i would redo if given supreme power over dt talents

but vet nades in general are all sorts of fucked up because u basically just get infinite of em

[ripe quest]

Yeah it's a bit odd. I was surprised to see them not make a John Grenade man keystone

[royal vortex]

it should really apply a debuff to enemies

based on the grenade type

smokes should slow kraks should give like 10s of max brittleness or a unique damage debuff

frags uh

idk they dont need a buff

[ripe quest]

They should just make them addons, no?

for the blitzes

[royal vortex]

is not happening

i feel

because what it seems like they wanted to do is only have psyker blitzes cost extra talent points to upgrade

and then vet cheats a lil with these weird blitz nodes

[hidden verge]

🤔

[royal vortex]

but grenade tinkerer should be like "here's a nice lil benefit to your grenade" instead of making frags more oppressive kraks slightly better for throwing all of them at bosses and smokes get to be smokes

u could even have it be so kraks will home to flak as well or smth and it would generally be more useful unless ur doing something absolutely deranged

[ripe quest]

Not sure. I just kinda feel like it's a weird talent to have as just a normal node. In my mind it's a weird in-between of a core talent and a blitz addon.

It's also a bit odd that the buffs it provides are odd too. Kraks being buffed against specifically bosses and smokes just getting something that will literally never have impact and may even make them more annoying if used incorrectly it's just weird in general.

I like the idea of them getting debuffs because you could use that to leverage a smoke buff/rework but it'd still be an off talent.

[royal vortex]

the idea i had is u use the debuffs to encourage the playstyle specific to the "subclass" the grenade belongs to

smokes belong to commando so u want em to close and kill, make em slow enemies so u keep them in The Killzone™️ (if smokes fucking did anything worthwhile)

kraks getting brittleness is a teamwide buff for killin a guy and that's what they want focus target to do (😔)

frags idk they dont need anything

[south folio]

damn smoke nades slowing would be so nice

i need any buff to smoke nade just so that i can justify going down the top right branch to save a single point

[ripe quest]

I still kinda enjoy the smoke + teamwide exe stance highlights but it's such a point sink to make it viable.

[south folio]

i am on the brink of running this

[exotic portal]

Stagger unit

https://tenor.com/view/shoota-boy-warhammer40k-kill-team-ork-wh40k-gif-26410400

[hollow mantle]

Just had to wait for the shop to make a green with 25 maniac. Finally got my perfect sword... Or close enough. 1 point off the dopamine number

[ripe quest]

wait wtf why is this a high payout weekly

[wraith helm]

Dont question it

just be glad its not asking for 6 missions with no player deaths

[ripe quest]

Those are instant rerolled when I get them

[wraith helm]

Someone ALWAYS dies to something

if they dont, then it was an accident

[minor sage]

should i get this

one of a kind

LOL

[median steeple]

For the meme yes

[wraith helm]

the best defence is a good offense. Also don't get hit

[exotic portal]

Why is it you gotta load up the new weekly contracts before they start counting upon to progress?

[wraith helm]

Cause. Fatshark moment

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-shark-song-dance-daddy-shark-gif-12340747

[wraith helm]

There's also a mod for just having all your contracts on the click of your tab key

If you're into that sort of thing

[exotic portal]

Yeah, no 1k hours zero mods

[wraith helm]

1k hrs and a billion mods downloaded

[exotic portal]

CS:GO mods?

https://tenor.com/view/fake-spin-bot-csgo-gif-19703181

[wraith helm]

Yes

Also I don't even have csgo

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-cod-call-of-duty-call-of-du-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-ii-simon-ghost-riley-gif-27104686

[wraith helm]

Mfw devs don't think about easy QoL features other games do

[hidden verge]

reported

[ripe quest]

<@&735928989146939404>

[spare talon]

woah! a whole 50 smackeroos for FREE?

[ember yew]

did i just miss some drama or something

[ember yew]

i call this ||ABSOLUTE OFFENSE||

[zinc talon]

and he was

and he was.

oh, yall

did yall know that this time of evening is officially known as dentists' time

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-1833707996207285481

because, tooth hurty

[ember yew]

about right time to say that when im ordering my burgers

[spare talon]

someone whom ive ended up helping out with his vet build and gameplay just asked "howd my stats look" at the end of the game, since i had mentioned the scoreboard mod and how it can help you know if youre filling your role, or are heavily lagging behind

i dont have the heart to tell him what his stats looked like

[ember yew]

120k damage done, 3k dmg taken?

looks its better than i thought

i mean

[spare talon]

me dodging the low stats
"you hit more heads than me in melee lol"
"you had the second most boss damage, which is pretty good considering im literally here"

[ember yew]

if you want to look at low stats

so that guy

did well

[subtle kite]

how do you get a more detailed scoreboard like that?

[ember yew]

im using default scoreboard mod + ScoreboardDamage mod

[ripe quest]

You can also use ovenproof's scoreboard addon.

[ember yew]

there's many options tl;dr

[spare talon]

im blowing these guys' minds

[dim tapir]

Ovenproof is the best for sure

[spare talon]

im telling them you can block behind you

theyre saying this is a game changer

[ripe quest]

I'm willing to bet any slightly obscure mechanic would surprise them.

[subtle kite]

@ember yew @ripe quest thank you both!

[polar nexus]

you can sprint and crouch!

[ember yew]

and if you do that at the same time - you slide and dodge bullets

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-shit-shocked-doggie-wth-gif-14825895

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-sonicthehedgehog-gif-18670099

can ogryn slide and dodge bullets too?

[polar nexus]

well, i do that by force of habit

but i would not be surprised if it did not work

[junior vortex]

Is the agrip autogun good?

[polar nexus]

yeah

the braced or the infantry?

because infantry is more of a marksman weapon

it likes heads

braced is more rambo style

[ember yew]

good

penetrate up to 3 trash targets

so you can aim at elites

and clear the path at the same time

[south wren]

Sleep sounds ASMR

[junior vortex]

Braced

Auto has been fun with my eviscerator as back up

I mostly focused on stability and damage with ammo count.

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1069272869353312337/1097314792471011399/snapchat.gif

[south wren]

I got auric maelstorm brainrot

Thats the only way i can go to sleep

[spare talon]

wouldnt the sleep asmr be horde, gunner, rager, etc sounds?

those sounds would be the alarm to wake up

[south wren]

Nah, trapper mutant

Demonhost

The good stuff

🥰

[spare talon]

nothing is waking this guy up once he falls asleep

[ripe quest]

The IAG trades a little burst DPS and total damage for higher per shot damage. The Brauto has the highest damage in general, only trumped in dps by the graia's braced fire.

[south wren]

Random ass guy with gun 60% me in 1 volley

[polar nexus]

@ripe quest any ideas how to make shredder good again? I'll take any combination of talents, blessing perks.

People are discovering cavalcade / surgical bolter like it's the new thing. So there's maybe something to abuse.

[fading vale]

it's just a bad brauto at best rn, but still ok for maniacs/specials

[polar nexus]

I don't care if it's not possible I just wanna try something

[fading vale]

cavalcade sucks for it

really not many options

[polar nexus]

That's sad :/

[fading vale]

it has very small crit scaling

[polar nexus]

Because it has a good Crit string :/

[ember yew]

autopistol mk3 simply sucks in damage and it sucks hard, it cant be fixed unless FS buff it directly, it's absolute garbage, i played a lot of matches with mk3
You can use it, but its like gimping yourself and refusing to use any Brauto or Columnus V IAG

it cant be saved

without the help of the gods ( )

[fading vale]

I know dark likes running around with uh, inspiring

but that's dark

[frank night]

this is mittins in the morning

good morning

[vocal pulsar]

Hello mittins in the morning

[royal vortex]

shalom

[frank night]

only one of you should be awake

[royal vortex]

such is life

[frank night]

he watches a man press a button repeatedly

[royal vortex]

he then yells in rage and folds a keyboard in half or adds another hole to the wall

funniest shit ever

[frank night]

excellent steve

[fading vale]

thug Steve

I forgot to post him when you said post Steve yesterday

[open echo]

Getting a grim user killed/letting them die on auric histg when the rest of the team has agreed not to take them is fine right?

[coarse birch]

This is a good steve

[frank night]

noone is gonna prosecute you either way

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/10-gif-25608850

im not taking grimms these days simply cuz im running 2 wounds in all builds

2 grimms = 1 wound permanent

[frank night]

its more that grims are worthless for me

I'm a quickplay gremlin so before I realised I was just like

if I didnt accept ppl picking up grims I shouldnt press quickplay

but now I know it's a straight nerf to the team with barely any benefit

[open echo]

Currently I just pickup grims to destroy them

[frank night]

I just ignore them

if someone picks them up whatever

in 30 minutes time I'll probably never see that guy again

water off a duck

[open echo]

They almost always get picked up

Even auric

[ember yew]

• make grimms rewards better, and people will complain if you won't take it or lose it
• make carrying them easier and they would be just another scripture to carry

FS decision: nah, just ignore them

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-17983065685674933488

[frank night]

the first one was in VT iirc

[ember yew]

i carry grims in VT2, but in VT2 pretty much everyone also run

curse resist

[frank night]

overall tho i just ignore them if they get picked up etc etc

tryna maneuver the grim guy into death means I'll probably fuck something else up

[fading vale]

there's just no damn point to picking them up and I'd rather not lose a wound

[ember yew]

i didnt enjoy running an entire match with 1 wound

[fading vale]

if there was any tangible difference in gifts or something maybe

but gifts are just hot ass

[ember yew]

imagine that if carrying 1/2 grimms give you a 10/20% chance per grimm to receive an item

that allows a #3 modification

[open echo]

I still don’t get why people take them on auric histg

Anyways had fun with barrels

[fading vale]

I'd love to modify 3 things on my 300 rated gift

amazing

[frank night]

cos they don't know what the rewards are or aren't and it pops up on the objectives

or they're VT2 guys who havent learned better yet and think they're still big things to get

[fading vale]

not like we have temp health cheat codes either

[open echo]

But it’s always lvl 60+

[fading vale]

some of the dumbest players I've seen are 500 or even 1000+

somehow

[open echo]

Met the most stupid 1980 psyker two days again

They went down constantly

And then raged in voice chat

[fading vale]

how is it possible to play that much and still be bad

[open echo]

Bc they didn’t jump down a ledge

And got netted

[open echo]

Brain rot

[ember yew]

classic

at least if its the dog, you can throw a grenade

but if its a net

[fading vale]

were they also a surge/smite user

[ember yew]

its gg

[open echo]

They were sniping with assail

[open echo]

Voidstrike and ds4

[ember yew]

insert random veteran here

"i have higher ground" !

[fading vale]

how can you take the most broken loadout

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/nigel-marven-prehistoric-park-net-gun-shoot-gun-gif-26543120

[fading vale]

and do shit like that

[open echo]

Also assail

[fading vale]

yeah

[obtuse stirrup]

People who blame extrinsic factors rather than themselves

Never improve and are the least pleasant players to play with

[fading vale]

every voidstrike scoreboard crab has sent me looks something like this

[open echo]

The ledge on assaination torrent with the mediace is where it was

[open echo]

They got sub 60 on combat

[fading vale]

I was raging and crab was just like ok I'll play with you and follow you around with a void

everything died instantly more or less

[obtuse stirrup]

As much overkill damage as #2's actual damage lol

[open echo]

I managed to out dmg and ranged kill a 400 voidstike psyker with plasma yesterday:D

[fading vale]

I mean plasma is plasma

[open echo]

Sitting in choke points with plasma is funny

[fading vale]

whatever dumbass decided 50-100 cleave was a good idea.....

[open echo]

Or to the side of walls where things jump

[obtuse stirrup]

Plasma is just voidstrike without the travel or charge time

[open echo]

100 cleave Agri revi

[obtuse stirrup]

And without getting stopped by thin walls

[open echo]

One day

[obtuse stirrup]

And it comes with a free 50 overtoughness machine and a power sword

[open echo]

Why did they make plasma go through walls

And ballwarks

[obtuse stirrup]

Because it's fucking hilarious

Less relevant now that nobody runs volley fire

But still

[open echo]

Apart from when you accidentally aggro the dh through a wall

[obtuse stirrup]

That's basically the only thing that can stop a plasma vet

[open echo]

Not if you run knife or dclaw

Hehe

I love having to hold back a dhost for 3 minutes while my team did nothing bc the bolter vet who shot at it left

[fading vale]

I love just 2 shotting every DH

[open echo]

Dhost cannot deal with running around boxes

And being blocked with a tiny knife

[fading vale]

or hear me out

just kill it in 5 seconds

[open echo]

Guh

[fading vale]

if only DH was meaningful

at least give us some ordos for the DH

[open echo]

Laspistol and knife :(

[fading vale]

laspistol should actually do solid dps

[open echo]

If only I could stop having to block and pull it out

[fading vale]

I went through a phase of memeing with just spamming a laspistol and it did surprisingly silly damage to bosses

[open echo]

Raking fire shooting a bon is really good

[fading vale]

If I ran piety I would probably slap unyielding damage on it instead of crit chance

only weapon I have crit chance on I think

[open echo]

I mostly run momentum

I prefer it

[fading vale]

momentum feels nice

the hidden dodge buffs

[open echo]

Piety scorge bleed knife with dash is something else

[obtuse stirrup]

Addicted to Piety atm

If I don't have a Fury charge available at all times

I'm a very sad zealot

[open echo]

2.4k average crits

700k dmg

Very fun

[fading vale]

I refuse to ever use piety mostly because well, hammer, but also crit CDR, and also piety might as well be a flat node with no requirements

one day they will nerf crit CDR and it will be glorious

[open echo]

Is piety viable with hammer?