zealot-class

[frank night]

i lost it all

presses the button again

[coarse birch]

dont think so

[royal vortex]

some new maps/weapons

[coarse birch]

when was twins

and weps

oh that was december

wasnt it

[austere furnace]

yeah i stopped when the clown map came out

[coarse birch]

yeah new weapons

and new boss fight thing

where you fight the twins as its own boss fight

[austere furnace]

what twins?

[royal vortex]

oh my god i am throwing money into the shredder

[coarse birch]

remember when a human boss would randomly show up mid mission for a little

[royal vortex]

t3 skullcrusher

[coarse birch]

either a sword one or a range one

if you didnt play during that time then you didnt see it

[austere furnace]

yeah i dont think i know what ur talking about

sounds cool tho

[coarse birch]

its neat

and then new weapons like new shovels

new evis and chainsword/chainaxe

some stuff got buffed

and new map

[sterile stone]

The hell are you doing now?

[coarse birch]

i do have t4 SC

on hammer

do i need to test something

[austere furnace]

sounds cool thanks for the help

[royal vortex]

skullcrusher does seem to stack with no respite

[coarse birch]

oh pog

[royal vortex]

3k crit headshot unyielding damage with a kant

[south folio]

nice stickerbook boy

[royal vortex]

[coarse birch]

yeah i was a little surprised

at that stickerbook

[royal vortex]

crucis was one of the first weapons i grinded for properly

i just sold all the non meta stuff ig

[ripe quest]

Totally not at all a bit nuts with shotguns having a fast pullout and all

[median steeple]

such a weird interaction

[royal vortex]

i just spent 3k plasteel

for a fucking blesisng

I ALREADY AHDAHAHCBIUJSZDAFGHBLSDFJBHDFGHB

@frank night i am NOT juiced

[median steeple]

the addiction is coming back

hope you find peace one day

[royal vortex]

alright

i have to grind an ironhelm i can put skullcrusher on

[ripe quest]

I'll be so peeved if you get a good roll on an SC ironhelm

[royal vortex]

please

satanic

[coarse birch]

We love darktide

[median steeple]

hadron taketh and hadron giveth

[royal vortex]

she is going to drive me to drink

40 hammers bought

4 usable

[coarse birch]

You were saying

[royal vortex]

aaaaaaAAAAAAA

[vocal pulsar]

what are you going for now

[royal vortex]

a hammer i can put skullcrusher on

[median steeple]

Omg please

This is damaging

[vocal pulsar]

he's falling for the meme

[royal vortex]

i am going to exterminate all ogryns if brunt fucks me again

[visual stream]

Me getting god rolls on weapons I have but a fleeting interest in

[median steeple]

I have a HS godroll and I do not like it

Thanks emps

[acoustic dune]

you should fuck brunt personally

[royal vortex]

maddening

one more round

[visual stream]

Why don't you listen to parasites

They'll get under your skin

[median steeple]

KEEP GOING

[karmic sparrow]

How cucked is this hammer?

[sterile stone]

Whats with the stars?

[coarse birch]

I think its to favorite

[sterile stone]

Hmmmm

[coarse birch]

So you dont sell on accident

Like it disables selling it

If i remember the mod correctly

[visual stream]

Switch out momentum for thrust and specialist damage for elite and it's not optimal but usable

[royal vortex]

i have lost

[royal vortex]

i will not spend more

[vocal pulsar]

The Fall of Josho

[coarse birch]

you are better than i

i would have spent all my mats

and gotten upset

[royal vortex]

all of my hammers have thrust rolled onto it

[sterile stone]

This looks like one of them plastic guns a parent bought for their kid at walmart

[median steeple]

Fallout 4 ahh gun

[sterile stone]

And the kid broke it

[visual stream]

Bethesda?

[visual stream]

IKR

[royal vortex]

1.2 million ordos and 10k plasteel spent for nothing god bless the thunderhammer blessing pool

[zinc talon]

whatchyall think

excellent stats, but

lawbringer

[sterile stone]

Waiting on the day they buff the slug shotty

[median steeple]

Possible greatness

[zinc talon]

boy.

where to begin

[acoustic dune]

i would say the chamber but

where is it

[median steeple]

Don't need it

Rare psychic ogryn

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/angel-dust-cute-hazbin-hotel-gif-21486530

[median steeple]

Goob

Love him

[zinc talon]

Behold

the Knifle

[median steeple]

Please

What the fuck is this abomination

[zinc talon]

it would seem shotguns are still a work in progress

last one

(for now)

[acoustic dune]

can you make it more compact

like smaller

[zinc talon]

there's a real danger of it imploding in on itself if we make it any denser

[sterile stone]

Shotgun pistols would be a cool idea tho

Tho that isn't a shotgun pistol

It's like...

A fever dream

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-doctor-octopus-the-power-of-the-sun-in-the-palm-of-my-hand-sun-gif-23770857

[zinc talon]

heh that RNG was actually almost exactly the smallest dimentions you could get

ha!

this thing resets so quickly on opening salvo you can get it to trigger even at full auto

[merry lance]

maybe im weird but i think lawbringer is the best shotty, special shot is a wide spread and if you want a slug just ADS and its basically a slug

[zinc talon]

the ripper 6 braced fire is the same horizontal spread pattern as the lawbringer

and I use it almost exclusively

[merry lance]

wut?

[zinc talon]

the lawbringer fires special ammo in a horizontal line

no up/down spread

so does the ripper 6

[merry lance]

i didnt say it did?

yea but does it turn into a slug when you aim down sights?

because the lawbringer does

[zinc talon]

?

[frank night]

kick a hole in ur door

[zinc talon]

the agrippina is the one that fires a slug

[merry lance]

go try it

just take the lawbringer and aim at a wall and shoot while hip fire, then ads at a different spot and you will see the spread tighten up to almost a slug

[merry lance]

i guess im not seeing what your doing in that clip

[ripe quest]

Yeah I see a miscommunication here.

[zinc talon]

oh I misread, my fault

[ripe quest]

Mr. Catting here is saying you get an accurate ADS along with a wideshot special.

[merry lance]

yes

[zinc talon]

oh dang, you're right

I thought you meant its special shot

[north sedge]

he keeps calling it slug

[zinc talon]

welp

we're off to see the wizard then

[merry lance]

because it takes the spread and makes it not spread, just like a slug lol

[north sedge]

ok but it's not a slug

a slug is a single projectile

[merry lance]

this is my setup as well which prob helps and i usually run martyr zealot

[zinc talon]

which of these is the next on the chopping block do yall think

yep I bet full bore is a monster with that ads shot pattern

does no respite apply on the first hit?

[royal vortex]

bolter/hsword is p aight

[royal vortex]

no

[zinc talon]

still, full bore / no respite sounds pretty nasty either way

[spare dome]

oh?

[zinc talon]

pop em with the ADS round then follow up while they're on the floor wondering how it all ended like this

[spare dome]

nah that didnt work out

[coarse birch]

hey thats my loadout

[merry lance]

you sure? i could see it not working but when i rolled it i was told i basically got perfect blessings on it

[royal vortex]

the enemy has to already be staggered for no respite to apply damage

[rose flower]

whiffs Daemonhost backstab with THammer

watches it wake up as team is half way across map

20 seconds later

Karik (me) has killed Daemonhost

Barely alive but wow

[zinc talon]

ballsy

[rose flower]

I almost biffed it

[royal vortex]

so for shotguns in most cases ur getting no respite on the second shot and beyond

[zinc talon]

but I appreciate the chutzpuh

[royal vortex]

i have come back around to bolter because it feels like i have to be deliberate in how i use it on zealot

lest i end up with 0 ammo and no killfeeds to show for it

[coarse birch]

yeah its fun to play around

and hsword so readily covers everything else

[sterile stone]

Anyone got an idea on if fire nades are effected by Vet's Mark ability?

[royal vortex]

i wish ur camera wasnt locked when u chastised

cuz i would be scooping so hard

[coarse birch]

true

[coarse birch]

give me max deathblow kills everytime

[zinc talon]

seems like cleave isn't the most important stat

even at a mid/low range it's still rounding to 12/8

[royal vortex]

all damage dealt should be

[sterile stone]

Even shit like barrels?

[royal vortex]

presumably

its an enemy debuff

[sterile stone]

Hmmmm

Next time I get on then, might have to run mark with vet

[median steeple]

It's fun

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculator-kid-gif-25353969

[sterile stone]

Vet shoulda got a rotary nade launcher

[rose flower]

Only if it makes the MW2 noobtube sound

thonk thonk thonk

[polar nexus]

I wish you couldn't chastise out of the map

[polar nexus]

Man you must really hate those ragers lol. You get the one shot BP?

[polar nexus]

Try a shout + close DMG + bleed nade + onslaught + red stimm + focus on a boss. Fun time.

[ripe quest]

0.15x sens modifier my beloved

[polar nexus]

How does that affect chastise?

And what is your mouse DPI btw?

[ripe quest]

When you use Fury it lowers your sensitivity. I think it caps how much you move as well. I run 1400 dpi and .3 sens ingame.

[zinc talon]

I haven't tested it enough yet

when rage and the admage blessing ramp up it might as well be a oneshot

cuz the first staggers em and they're dead before they recover

[ripe quest]

@polar nexus

[ripe quest]

if you max your sens you can do 180s during a charge lmao

[spare dome]

headshot a crusher with a bolter doing that

[sharp zodiac]

For a first axe I'll take it

[spare dome]

might be time to actually set up my DPI switch lol

[sharp zodiac]

I think decimator will work along with the obvious blessing needed

[polar nexus]

I struggle below 2000...

[royal vortex]

wtf

[polar nexus]

Mostly because of melee with slower weapon

[coarse birch]

i play 400 dpi default sensitivity for this game

[sharp zodiac]

I play max sens

[coarse birch]

havent ever felt the need to go lower

arent you also xbox

[polar nexus]

400 or 4000?

[coarse birch]

400

[rugged rock]

is Wrath, Savage Sweep, or Perfect strike better for the Eviscerator? Or are all 3 not worth using

[coarse birch]

if i played on 4000 dpi i would explode

[polar nexus]

What mark?

[sharp zodiac]

Precisely

[rugged rock]

MKXV. I like the light attacks more

[coarse birch]

you can prob change stick sensitivity though

[polar nexus]

Are you using one of those big mouse mat?

[sharp zodiac]

I can

[coarse birch]

yeah i have a full desk one

although i dont use all of it

[polar nexus]

Yeah but that must help

[coarse birch]

cause my keyboard and monitor stand take up some

so i use like

1/4th of it for the mouse

or so

ive gotten very used to aiming with my arm and not my wrist lol

[polar nexus]

Aiming with the arm and not the wrist is really a skill

[coarse birch]

i did it because i used to play siege a lot

and i played on stupid low sens

and i just got used to it

[rugged rock]

Haven't fully decided which one I like more, leaning towards MKXV though

[ripe quest]

I have way too many hours coming from shooters so I have a very typical Valorant and CS sens setup

[polar nexus]

Mkxv has a target DMG cap at 4

So added cleave will just be for stagger

[rugged rock]

Does that include during critical hits?

[polar nexus]

Anyway, the consensus here is wrath is better on 15 and SS on 2

[rugged rock]

what about PS

[vocal pulsar]

unarmored is sad

but that is still fairly solid

[polar nexus]

But tbh, rampage is power so cleave as well

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/wmolq5

[rugged rock]

rampage is only damage

[polar nexus]

No

Power

So DMG, cleave and stagger

[rugged rock]

at lvl 3 it's hit at least 3 enemies with an attack, increases damage by 32% for 2 secs

3 secs*

[polar nexus]

Tooltip wrong

[rugged rock]

Oh

[south folio]

the tooltip is wrong

[polar nexus]

Deathspitter stacks like fire Frenzy. But the tooltip doesn't say so

[rugged rock]

So rampage over more crits then?

[south folio]

such is the life of fatshark descriptions

[rugged rock]

can't remember what that blessing is called, I don't havbe one with it

[polar nexus]

Rampage + shred is very very good on a xv

With blazing piety build you're just spamming chastise every few seconds

[rugged rock]

What about for martyr?

I prefer that for the attack speed

[polar nexus]

You can go martyr and keep the cool down CDR

Chastise is also attack speed for 10s

[vocal pulsar]

thrust and slaughterer/headtaker for blessings. unyielding and flak/elite for perks

[polar nexus]

With 2 charges you're just chaining a ult every 15s

Now if you add Crit CDR to gain your ult back under 10s...

You're just in attack speed mode all the time

[rugged rock]

true, but martyr + emperor's bullet + ult is even MORE attack speed

or does it not stack?

[polar nexus]

You need to empty your mag for EB

[rugged rock]

I use a revolver and keep one in the chamber

I onyl use it for snipers and far off gunners

it works way better than you'd think

[polar nexus]

I know I have a build with eb too

And sainted gunslinger

[rugged rock]

I've been grinding out eviscerators for days but still haven't even gotten level 3 shred

very sad

[sharp zodiac]

Now I see Rashad's enjoyment

[coarse birch]

What was wrong with it before

[polar nexus]

Rashad is worse Antax

[polar nexus]

Hitbox for the longest time

[loud hearth]

What perk should I replace reload speed with? Crit chance? Carapace, unyielding?

[coarse birch]

Oh i figured she meant recently lol

In response to luna

[polar nexus]

Rashad being cool is a new thing

[coarse birch]

Well its been months at this point

[polar nexus]

Maniac

[sterile stone]

So don't hate me right

[polar nexus]

Yeah probably, I have been playing since the beta so...

[sterile stone]

I don't use red stims

Only Celerity and Green

[coarse birch]

I forget exactly when it got buffed

[loud hearth]

What for, mutants? Ragers?

[polar nexus]

Red stimms have rending too

[sterile stone]

I figured red stimms would be better for rampage mode ogryn or zealot

[sterile stone]

I did not know this....

[polar nexus]

And it works with bleed

Then you add onslaught

Working also with bleee

[sterile stone]

So you're telling me right

Helbore

Red stimm

Mark

[polar nexus]

Then you use shout + the nodes giving you DMG after ult....

[coarse birch]

Which helbore you use argus

[sterile stone]

I rarely use it

[polar nexus]

Does the helbore need rending oO

[sterile stone]

But Normall the mk3

[polar nexus]

Probably around last summer

[coarse birch]

It might be usable vs cara with rending given all the attack buffs you can get on vet

With red stim up

[sterile stone]

Im still on the quest

To find out what ability stacking can cause the most single hit dmg

Like Taunt + shout + Mark

• Chastise

@median steeple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW75j0CSClM

[sharp zodiac]

Didn't understand the gameplay

[polar nexus]

Around 25% iirc

[median steeple]

this game looks great

[coarse birch]

Were you running bm and stuff

[polar nexus]

To hit a one shot BP on ragers and 2 shots on a mutie

Especially if you use anointed in blood

Nevertheless try it in the psykanium. If you don't get any new BP, try elites which is more broad (it includes ragers and crushers as well). I would consider carapace last.

[sterile stone]

Praying this game gets coop

Mideval witchhunting with guns?

With the boys?

Sheeeeeeeit

[median steeple]

need more shit with magical guns in a medieval setting

fucking yuri is in HD2

[sterile stone]

Honestly yeah

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[median steeple]

the guy who voiced smoke in MK1

[sharp zodiac]

I just thought it was a different playstyle

[coarse birch]

Ah i see

[sterile stone]

Speaking of MK1

[coarse birch]

Id never heard that complaint about rashaad

[visual stream]

Reminded me of that one Blight something something game, you're knights fighting zombies

[fleet zealot]

fuckin yuri

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[sharp zodiac]

Ah great two knife people

[coarse birch]

So i was curious

[sterile stone]

So good news right

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-watch-kiss-citrus-gif-9652326749580787731

[coarse birch]

Youll be fine im sure

[median steeple]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1774880/Blight_Survival/

Steam

Blight: Survival

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To be announced

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[sterile stone]

I think I heard somewhere Blight is gonna enter Early Access either end of this year or next

[median steeple]

this game is great cant wait for it to come out

[visual stream]

WOOOO

[coarse birch]

Did you just enter chat without a ferret gif or image

Are you ok

[median steeple]

sloppenheimer

[sterile stone]

Gaming finally coming out that slump

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers2-gif-3885056539797791168

[sterile stone]

I just got unshrouded

[visual stream]

So ready for Helldivers 2 as well

[median steeple]

we also have Stalker 2 and SM2 this year

[sterile stone]

It's fun, but I can tell it's not for everyone

[visual stream]

I hope it's gonna be as good as the first

[sterile stone]

Gameplay reminds me of a 3rd person uhhhh....

[fleet zealot]

i do wish zombies outside of modern setting were more common

[sterile stone]

What's that game with the bugs

[median steeple]

so fucking true

[fleet zealot]

love a viking zombie game

[median steeple]

zombies in med or industrial era would go hard

I think thats why I love WWZ the book so much

[sterile stone]

Steampunk era zombies

[median steeple]

its modern but all the nations take a diff approach about it

[sterile stone]

Here's the thing right

Why does no one in zombie games

Wear armor plating

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-nodding-yes-gif-15404340

[sterile stone]

Like light metal armor

You can't bit through metal

[median steeple]

I mean they did in the walking dead but its the walking dead so they mostly forgor about it

they did it ONCE in teh WWZ movie

[spare dome]

you'd look like such an idiot suffocating to death under a giant orgy pile of zombies that cant eat you but will never stop trying to eat you

[heavy arch]

in zom 100 the mc gets a scuba diving suit meant for shark bites

then he becomes a super hero killing zombies

[spare dome]

as you slowly cook to death in your tin suit

[sterile stone]

Ideally you'd carry a weapon and the metal armor would be thing sheets

[median steeple]

zombie media becomes really good when you are creative with it

[sterile stone]

Like you don't need to be wearing a garage door

[spare dome]

oh you underestimate the bite strength of a human being

[median steeple]

instead of american city #3000

[spare dome]

especially one with no regard for personal health

[sterile stone]

Ok hold on

I swear I got into this topic before

What kinda zombies right

[spare dome]

like you'd have to be pretty decently armoured up

[sterile stone]

Cause if it's L4D zombies sure

[spare dome]

and that's gonna be heavy

plus like

sometimes you gotta take a shit

[median steeple]

today and yesterday a lot of HD2 videos came out

[sterile stone]

But decaying walkers will in no way have a strong bite force

[median steeple]

and its so fucking cool

[spare dome]

especially in the far future with zombies and dysentry

[median steeple]

all depends on if they are infected or actual zombies

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

[spare dome]

yea hd2 looks real good so far

like 90% chance i just buy it the day of

[median steeple]

the GM system looks cool and everything else just looks great

[sterile stone]

I'd find it damn near impossible if a rotting zombie can bite through a sheet of metal

[median steeple]

also there is actual story implications they keep hinting at throughout the all of the videos

[sterile stone]

You mean to tell me

A mf with a squishy skull

[median steeple]

a walking dead zombie? prob not

[sterile stone]

Can bit through my metal covered forearms

[median steeple]

but like an infected from B4B for LFD might be able

[spare dome]

i cant wait to the end of the helldivers 2 story when we finally get to kill the bug lord, which is just a bug with a hitler mustache

[median steeple]

MECHA BUG

[zealous mesa]

this seems fine to me for blessings id just change infested

[sterile stone]

If I'm getting squeezed like the last bit of toothpaste in the tube like the big zed in b4b

I'm just rolling over and dying

[polar nexus]

I am seeing more and more vets with knives. That's probably due to Tanner's videos.

[median steeple]

fucking

GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

one day knives will implode

and I will be there watching in glee

[rugged rock]

@polar nexus you wouldn't happen to have a suggested talent tree would you?

for the MKXV

[thorn imp]

Eradicate knife users

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078868665769934909.webp?size=48&name=BASED&quality=lossless

[polar nexus]

I would use the shit out of them to produce energy.

[median steeple]

fucking zombie treadmill power

[polar nexus]

Well everything is valid. I would suggest finding a way to get attack speed, because that weapon can be a bit slow

[sterile stone]

Reminds me of How 2 Survive

[rugged rock]

It's so hard to build it without even being able to try out shred

[polar nexus]

Rampage momentum is good as well if you can't rely on spamming chastise to replenish tg

[sterile stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMg3EtG21ps

She has some of the best vibes

[rugged rock]

don't have any with momentum either

[polar nexus]

What do you have?

[rugged rock]

tell you in a min game just started

[median steeple]

I gotta get more ramen

[sterile stone]

My roommate bought one of the ones she used

Black box with red letters

[median steeple]

I havent smoked in a little while

might as well wait till HD2 comes out so I can be blasted when it comes out

[spare dome]

yea i need a tolerance break lmao

[unkempt horizon]

what blessings do I put on this

[sterile stone]

I took a edi yesterday and felt nada

So I'm with Ex

Might need to take a break

[spare dome]

this joint is 48% and im just

fine

[median steeple]

rev to rampage imo but you could do savage sweep

someone who knows way more will prob say something else tho

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-shiggy-wiggy-jiggy-sledge-barotrauma-gif-13011396174134005209

[ripe quest]

what did I do

[sterile stone]

Be a little fellor

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hedgehog-mrfresh-cat-feeder-mr-fresh-gif-6553553018433258079

[sterile stone]

What the hell is that

[sharp haven]

worth investing in? I assume stability is pretty important?

[median steeple]

bro that cat is fucking PISSED

look at him

the hate in his eyes

[sterile stone]

Worth tbh

[spare dome]

explain ur smolness

[sterile stone]

The extra 5% you can roll isn't needed

[meager bison]

It's personal preference, but the top choices are gonna be switching rev it up to rampage, or something for cleave. Worth experimenting to see which you like better.

Leave shred

[north sedge]

cleave not particularly necessary for mk 15

[unkempt horizon]

wanted to use momentum and savage sweep is that okay?

[sharp haven]

sweet. flak is nice

oh I forgot I have 2 plasteel 😢

18k diamantine sitting in a corner, unused

[sterile stone]

I know that pain

[sharp zodiac]

That isn't a good thing

[sterile stone]

But knowing the restraint of saving plasteel up to have over 20k

[sharp zodiac]

Also why are plasma vets either good or dogshit with no in between

[sterile stone]

That shows a mark of truth strength

[vocal pulsar]

no

you need damage

take rampage and momentum

[fleet zealot]

to steal or not to steal, that is the question

and the answer is stealing

[unkempt horizon]

got it

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/h5wx53 @ripe quest arco applied skullcrusher to the maulers

i shouldve wiggled the camera here

[ripe quest]

It's always amazing seeing it happen

[royal vortex]

im almost certain half the shots go into a wall

can u turn off the bolter explosions

[ripe quest]

also fun fact: boltgun is one of the cases where the armor downgrade technically nerfs the flak damage. It's a 150% damage buff to carapace though.

I think you can yeah

but it also turns off fire

[royal vortex]

😔

[polar nexus]

Josho have you seen telopots zealot bolter guide?

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah my favorite weapons definitely turned into for zel weapons I use

1.The two eviscerators
2. Rashad axe
3. heavy sword
4. Devil's claw
5. Crusher

It is insane how much fun that axe is

Anyways off to shower

[coarse birch]

i havent used caxe in so long

i should probably try it again for shits and giggles

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/176035674321977344/1194395848935735407/GDSrNlLWMAAMZuk.gif?ex=65cbe251&is=65b96d51&hm=0d6571e516d31f3a20f3d9fcc91aba86e0b5161a232fe0b52bcc9f78c9a5d8be&

mr fresh my beloved

[polar nexus]

why did i not test that earlier?*

[spare dome]

yea i always giggle when i see a zealot fotf a mauler line with a Bolter

[polar nexus]

shooting the floor around mobs to get max pf stacks

[ripe quest]

If you hit their heads it does very solid damage. It'll pop up against scab ragers though

[spare dome]

heck headshots im dumpin it into their butt

[ripe quest]

1.6x weakspot damage + a 2.5x damage mod is goated

[spare dome]

so is a booty blastin

[polar nexus]

why?

[spare dome]

you do more damage to flak than to unarmoed

by a pretty notably amount

[polar nexus]

hmmm

[ripe quest]

unarmored adm is just about .99 and the flak adm is 1.

[polar nexus]

and that's a new thing btw

flak adm was not 1 before p13

(so said Crab-sensei)

[ripe quest]

I mean, yeah a shitload changed with patch 13.

Boltgun had a multitude of buffs since then

[polar nexus]

i can understand chastising a mauler or a scab rager not knowing that info

[spare dome]

its especially funny since the numbers are juuuuuust right on the bolter where using chastise will cost you one more bullet

and that can hurt because its a bolter

can* not will rather

[polar nexus]

but reddit says boltgun is bad!!!!!!

[royal vortex]

yes

i got my Knowledge™️ from crab

[royal vortex]

however i just hit the f key and shoot stuff

[ripe quest]

was there even anything notable in it or was it just a "here's the stats and here's the usecases"

[royal vortex]

i mean if u dont know how to use bolter it helps a lil bit

[polar nexus]

he gives good info about blessings and talents interaction

[royal vortex]

but there wasnt really much in there that i was like "damn thats good to know"

[polar nexus]

it's a good video

[ripe quest]

I was just trying to gauge if it was anything beyond the norm. Seems like a standard video.

[spare dome]

i was surprised he didnt go into the full reload anim cancel and just showed one part

but i am also ready to accept that its annoying to execute and just hurts when you fuck it up

[royal vortex]

this kickback ogryn took an ammo pack i needed when he had 30 kickback shots and i had 27 bolter rounds

and so i made it my mission to locust up all of the bullets

[polar nexus]

part of that knowledge was not really known outside of discord / captain crab circle of lost poets

[royal vortex]

[south folio]

josho missed a red ammo pack right outside of the elevator

and the ogryn got to it

(josho consequently malded)

[ripe quest]

I mean barely anything interesting is known if you don't have a dataminer or an experienced player in your circle.

[royal vortex]

i didnt see it

[south folio]

cope

[royal vortex]

yes

i have to wear glasses

i get a pass

[south folio]

i also wear glasses

[ripe quest]

same

[spare dome]

nerrrrrrds

[polar nexus]

exhil if you proce pf stacks and you quickswap your weapon, do you lose them?

[royal vortex]

only when the timer on them runs out

[polar nexus]

so

you shoot the floor, proce pf, qs to proce skullcrusher, knife and shoot?

i wonder if you have the time to do all of that

[royal vortex]

u have to hit em with the skullcrusher weapon

to get the stacks applied

[polar nexus]

the stagger is not enough?

the knife cannot apply it?

[royal vortex]

unfortunately it won't just auto-apply to enemies u have already staggered unless u have like stun grenades

it probably would but it would only be 4 stacks at max

[ripe quest]

This is about the best setup I've gotten for boltgun but it can be improved timing wise.

[ripe quest]

got 11 with this one

[prime ridge]

I think I've rounded a corner as a zealot main

Because zealot can hard carry so well I've found myself enjoying shepherding the weak through the valley of death

Its an extra little challenge. Like they're gonna complete the mission even If I'm the last one standing

[coarse birch]

i am convinced suppression only exists so i cant use lasguns on not vet

[sharp zodiac]

I am freezing

[coarse birch]

i might advise warming up

[prime ridge]

suppression exists to make gunners at the backs of hordes not an absolute nightmare

[coarse birch]

suppression for you

not the enemy

[prime ridge]

Oh, no that exists so that you'll miss by 30 miles while trying to hit that pesky gunner and wake the daemonhost

And that is definitely NOT from experience.

not at all

never woken a daemonhost

[ripe quest]

You can technically get it on Ogryn via a talent but it's ult-bound. Gotta use a blessing for it otherwise

[sharp zodiac]

That's better

Warmed up and ready to fight 15 year olds

[ripe quest]

it's crazy that you either need to use 2 blessings or vet ult + 1 blessing to do this.

Why can't I just be immune to ranged damage

[eternal bolt]

since when is this a battlebit discord

[ripe quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728174260878704643/1178364672756437022/salvatory_ogryn.gif

[sharp zodiac]

I just had the worst foot cramp

Ow

[sour hull]

Ya know that feeling when you can feel the cramp coming?

Or when it leaves and you can still feel it and fear for it to come again?

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

I still feel it a bit

[sour hull]

No chance

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/0kg4v9

live footage of an ogryn's final braincell being obliterated under the weight of his own skull

[north sedge]

Paulblow 😔

[junior vortex]

I cannot fight a daemon host with my current build

Maybe because I am smart enough not to wake them up without hammer.

[ripe quest]

I do find it funny that whenever I run a Thammer I run into people who aggro a DH and go "Let me die"

[light holly]

Just dont fight them 😌

[royal vortex]

the bolter is a cool weapon

i have changed my opinion of it

[coarse birch]

did you not like it before

[ripe quest]

It is very pogger

[coarse birch]

or did you just think it was bad

[royal vortex]

my opinion of it on zealot had not been updated since p13

because i got sick of it

and so in my mind it was kinda shitty

[coarse birch]

fair

i didnt use it pre patch 13 much

so i was less burnt out on it

[royal vortex]

its nice in that its a gun u kinda have to think about using

rather than just u shoot bad guys whenever u want

[coarse birch]

yeah

and when its good its very good

and nice to have

what do you run on it

atm

[royal vortex]

are u asking talents or blessings

[coarse birch]

blessings

/perks

[royal vortex]

cavalcade/pf carapace/elites

i think i should swap elites for flak

because i use it with hsword and so i look at maulers and shed a tear

[coarse birch]

do you have any issues with maniacs or not really

assuming WS hit

[royal vortex]

i have tknives and a hsword

[coarse birch]

oh fair

[royal vortex]

maniac enemies do not exist to me

[coarse birch]

i forget what i run on mine

i think i got stuck with SI/pinning

[royal vortex]

shattering impact is super bad unfortunately

[coarse birch]

yeah

rip

[royal vortex]

inspiring barrage gives you a stack per bullet

so by shot 5 you're at 250%

i just learned this from crab like 2 hours ago

[coarse birch]

barrage or cava is what i would run in an ideal world

[royal vortex]

i dont think toughness regen is enough of an issue for how u use bolter on zealot

[ripe quest]

insp has always been deceptively potent since p13.

[visual stream]

As someone who only uses ranged when forced to on zealot, I love bolter

[royal vortex]

but u can get comically high amounts of toughness regen

[coarse birch]

yeah i cant think of a ton of moments it would be nice

esp since i dont need to fight gunners on zealot like i do vet

cause i can charge into them without getting stunned and losing all toughness

yeah i run flak on mine

and i like that quite a bit

[ripe quest]

mrw the brittle blessings on most weapons are now Carapace only

[royal vortex]

the consequences of flak being unarmored 2

[ripe quest]

It's one niche use on Boltgun is if you aren't actively doing anything to reach bps against carapace

and both zealot and vet have really easy ways to get to a point where boltgun doesn't need SI

[coarse birch]

yeah i dont hate SI

but its not the best

also just to clarify i should chastise into maulers/crushers right

or just maulers on bodyshot

[ripe quest]

Carapace specifically

[coarse birch]

shouldnt*

[ripe quest]

so mauler headshots and crushers

[coarse birch]

ok

[ripe quest]

It's a completely minor difference if you armor downgrade flak though so dw about it too much

[coarse birch]

yeah i was wondering how it affected the armor downgrade

[ripe quest]

I'm still of the opinion that they should buff up the base damage and lower adms to make the damage the exact same but it gets more potency out of SI.

[coarse birch]

yeah it can create some weird numbers

[ripe quest]

Though that's more of a bandaid solution to the problems it has

[coarse birch]

although it does make some amount of sense that bolter has high ADM but still

i feel like it would play nicer with it since its a finesse weapon

if it was just better base damaeg

also unrelated but surge staff actually makes me so sad

[ripe quest]

It's very almost

[coarse birch]

like its fine if the enemy im trying to kill is far enough away to be inconvenient to melee, wont get one shot by assail RMB, and nobody brought a remotely quick gun to kill the thing anyway

which is half the fuckin guns

so i end up using it twice a mission

because every other option in my kit is better lol

[ripe quest]

Like they could do a bunch of stuff to it and it would be a bit more fun but it both feels weird sometimes and also is just like, not particularly great.

imagine turning elites into lightning rods that would be baller

[coarse birch]

like why the actual fuck is it so bad against carapace

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/in8dvj

[coarse birch]

i got a smoke nade vet today

i hate smoke nades

so much

like oh yes

im glad i can no longer see the things i want to kill

thanks

i will now spam ping in hopes of finding it somewhere

[royal vortex]

he would mostly drop it when melee enemies were around

[coarse birch]

classic

if only the other 2 nades were better in that spot

[ripe quest]

It's fun that some people use it wrong when it's already a pretty minor effect on gameplay. I've had moments where it's kinda interesting but like

[coarse birch]

it does seem interesting in concept

but it just blinds everyone and theres far better ways of dealing with gunners

[south folio]

i did a god gamer move in that game where I was push-attacking an enemy and pushed a burster that I didn't even know was there
and then another burster came and i chastised and took no damage from it

[ripe quest]

I almost feel as if it should be like throwing knives but it's a thing you slam into the ground that does the same effect with a minor stagger or smth. Give it an AoE debuff or smth idk.

[royal vortex]

ive had more situations where it is explicitly hurting me than it is helping me

because ill know ppl are fighting something but i cant see through the smoke

[ripe quest]

It probs shouldn't hinder ally visibility is another thing. If you're in it it's not bad at all, but if it's in front of you you should at least be able to still see enemy outlines or smth

[royal vortex]

i almost wish it was like

[north sedge]

Im glad this has me crab and mainerz talking about the nuances of fart sounds in discord soundboard

[royal vortex]

"Corrosive Gas"

and it applied 20% brittleness to enemies inside it

or some kind of debuff

[royal vortex]

lmao

[coarse birch]

a debuff would be cool

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/kx278h this was another good "why game" moment

[coarse birch]

grenade that just applies SC to everything

[royal vortex]

where i get launched when i tried to bolter bash the burster away

[coarse birch]

i would have popped off if you got the bash off

0% chance i remember that exists there

[ripe quest]

yes

[coarse birch]

and i just swap to melee

[ripe quest]

that's why it should be like throwing knives

so you can have the funny interactions

[tidal berry]

I blame all the glue eaters with their ''smokes are good you just don't get it'' attitude

[royal vortex]

😔

actually trolled

i get memed by bossing throwing me all the time because its the only thing that interrupts u with twbs

(getting launched)

[rose flower]

Smokes don’t need a buff. They need a rework. They’re just… eh

[tidal berry]

They are just worse psyker bubble in every possible way

[visual stream]

Smokes themselves could make you invisible while you're in them briefly? Like just a couple of seconds upon entering/detonation? Idk

[tidal berry]

people had amazing suggestions to make smokes at least be decent

[coarse birch]

Tbf psyker bubble essentially stops the game

Its very hard to compete with that

[tidal berry]

like entering one grants short duration stealth or popping a smoke cuts off all fires inside etc

[rose flower]

So like. What’s his name from Vermintide’s ability? But a baby version?

[visual stream]

Could go hard with elite chance to restore grenade and grenade regen for assassinating

[ripe quest]

also it's not too bad with the SC interaction but it def should be better

[rose flower]

(I have not played much Vermintide. So I don’t remember names)

[ripe quest]

no reason for it to take that much time to kill a crusher with the ST staff

[coarse birch]

The fact its worse vs unyielding and cara than void is baffling to me

[visual stream]

Beats me, I don't fw stealth classes and three characters have a stealth career

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/5yvg5w the shotgunner lives in fear of the guy with the bodycam on

[visual stream]

OH Bardin's smoke I think is what you mean

[coarse birch]

Given void sacrifices nothing for it

[rose flower]

BARDIN. That’s it

[visual stream]

Lame that the dwarf's starter class is pansy ranged

[rose flower]

But like. Smokes being a baby version of that seems interesting

[tidal berry]

It was interesting in P13

[coarse birch]

Surge should fucking obliterate armor

[tidal berry]

now its boring and no one touches it

because novelty has wore off

[visual stream]

Making things happen with the smoke rewards regeneration of said smoke

[rose flower]

Just. Any ally or you in the smoke goes in. The enemy just kinda goes.
“Where’d he go!?”

[visual stream]

Think that's a decent way to go about it

[tidal berry]

irrelevant because the smoke itself is irrelevant, harmful even

[ripe quest]

because it's a projectile it can apply SC through quick swapping too

[visual stream]

Dunno how the skill tree pathing would work but if you can make a not horrendous build around that, it would be cool

Maybe invis+passing through enemies

Not for whole duration of smoke but a couple of seconds

[ripe quest]

Though Trauma can stagger AoE which lets you apply SC for free so like

[tidal berry]

I mean sure you could make it regen without investing 2 points for grenade regen that would solve the issue of sacrificing points over a meme

but then the smoke itself needs to have some reason to exist

like back when fires were really OP, fire denial seemed like a cool idea

[coarse birch]

Ig that is true

[tidal berry]

it also needs some work with visibility issues

It has so many issues it might be easier to just make another grenade entirely

[visual stream]

The invis and passing through enemies would be the benefit of the smoke in that case

[tidal berry]

or just give it all that oomph without having veteran sacrifice like 4 talent points for it

because fatshark I hate to break it to you but no clown will spend 2 points for grenade tinkerer and then another two for grenade regen just to spam smokes

[visual stream]

Would be funny meme though

[tidal berry]

It was, in P13. But P13 right tree was really juicy

[visual stream]

(Not funny for anyone else with a ranged weapon)

[split ibex]

You could rework it into a gas grenade

Slow and damage enemies like the driller nade in DRG

[tidal berry]

That'd be really busted with old onslaught dot interaction

I'm kinda sad they fixed that it was fun

the +1 bleed talent would tick onslaught at a double speed

[rose flower]

Any of you have the name Azlo?

God DAMN is this knife zealot SCHMOOVIN

[visual stream]

Thoughts on turning smite into a shotgun-spread horde clearing tool? None of their blitzes do it and it is a lot more interesting than "nothing is happening while I'm holding left click"

[fleet zealot]

assail is meant to bethe horde clearer imo

[visual stream]

Take away the stun, give it maybe a slow at most, and boost the damage

[fleet zealot]

and it does it's job alright, good if you have EP

and they won't ever remove the stun entirely, they moved old surge into new smite so players can continue being cc bots

[visual stream]

Unfortunately so

However it kills two birds with one stone

[fleet zealot]

i think smite should have a new functionality

on left clikc

that is aggression focused

[visual stream]

Psykers want shotguns and non-psykers want a more interactive smite

Ez

Everyone happy

[fleet zealot]

maybe give it group anti armor

like, the more enemies you hit in the cone with flak and carapace (cara bosoted by 2x) the more the damage does

[ripe quest]

There are ways that would mesh better with smite. It requiring you to channel for any effect makes you just locked into channeling a crowd.

[fleet zealot]

anti armor left click would keep it's vibe with surge staff,

[ripe quest]

I like the idea of the right click charging a wave that goes through enemies and lasts even just a second or two after

[south folio]

hell yeah

doomfist

[ripe quest]

It would trample a tad on brain rupture imo

[visual stream]

I was thinking more of a charged shock in a cone, like the lightning staff but focus is spread between more enemies

[visual stream]

Was thinking the same

Poor BB needs buffs to make it not reliant on EP

[fleet zealot]

ehh i think how i have it in mind

wouldn't

[south folio]

i want it to be a single-target lightning punch on the LMB and a more interesting, shorter duration, shorter range, stagger/stun on the RMB

[fleet zealot]

cause you'd still need multiple targets for most damage

[fleet zealot]

I don't think it should stay single target cause that makes it collide with surge too much

[ripe quest]

The blitz being part melee would be pretty funny

[south folio]

surge is at range so there's that

and you might not be taking surge

different slots, different businesses

[south folio]

hell yeah

gimme that melee psyker shit

let smite keep Enfeeble

combo that stuff into your melee

[ripe quest]

Interestingly a good amount of these ideas could also be staff primary attacks or special attacks

to add flavor

[royal vortex]

i want like psychic batons

instead of full on staffs

that have the utility in the lmb slot

[south folio]

psyker being the class to get effectively second melees would be pretty neat

(or third, if we go with my smite suggestion :))))))))

[royal vortex]

a lot of psyker problems would be solved if u looked at various guns and go "how can we adapt this to be an interesting staff"

shotguns are a big one

[fleet zealot]

i remember like

how everyone wanted the psyker homing knives before

then assail was added

and a ton of people hated it

[south folio]

fatshark picking shit numbers will be the death of me

why 10 max shards

[royal vortex]

so that bruisers could do this https://streamable.com/ujb9uu

[south folio]

why is quickshard a passive effect

[royal vortex]

of course

[south folio]

surreal

[fleet zealot]

bruisers were late to heretic day

[royal vortex]

they simply slid

[south folio]

theu

[royal vortex]

you can prove nothing.

[south folio]

but i will always know

[river needle]

Is this thing any good?

[analog ember]

if only headtaker was deathblow...

but it's still good ofc

[south folio]

i hope you mean rampage

[river needle]

So Rampage + Deathblow would be better?

[fleet zealot]

no

headtaker> rampage just cause it works on single target

[river needle]

Wait, so Headtaker + Deathblow?

[fleet zealot]

yes

[analog crown]

FIRE

[fleet zealot]

but rampage headtaker is slightly better for hordes

but deathblow lets you kill 4 elites per swing so that is why it is considered the best rn

[tidal berry]

Every video game has the ''wouldn't it be cool if we had X'' people

[river needle]

Ah, alright, thanks

[fleet zealot]

i love the angry glass bees

BEHOLD MY SWARM

[tidal berry]

I mean to a degree I get it, its cool but why did they had to make it like a spammable

[south folio]

fatshark doesn't know the gold that they had in their hands
to make the ammo economy of assail more interesting

[visual stream]

Reaping would've been a lot cooler if it was just one stronger Yondu missile that you could control 😔

[tidal berry]

psyker design is like everything you all criticize veteran for, turned to 11

and the balancing factor is ''u explode if you turn brain off too hard''

[south folio]

i will be forever pained by that patch where they nerfed assail's LMB damage and buffed the RMB damage, as if that was the proper solution

why are psyker's blitzes so god damn boring

all three of them

i hate it

at least with assail you can make it interesting

but god why it's the god damn magic class

[visual stream]

BB just needs cooler noises and better numbers and it is good

Let me hear their heads splat on the inside of their helmet when I kill a crusher, not a finger-pop noise

[rigid trellis]

my number 1 bb wish is that it can lock onto enemies that are tagged through walls n shit

[visual stream]

Never thought of that but based

[river needle]

Is Atrox Mk II any good?

[visual stream]

Helps alleviate annoying crowd targeting too if you jump behind cover for a split second

[rose flower]

I’ve always felt fine with Psyker but. I’m never sure how to feel about gun Psyker. Like. When I do it I think I could just be playing Vet

[tidal berry]

are you comparing gunker to voc veteran or exec veteran

[rose flower]

Then again. Assail is like having three weapons. Because it’s basically another gun

[visual stream]

Ogryns have the coolest blitz options in the game, the theoretically coolest class has the least cool blitzes, curious

[rose flower]

Kinda just Vet in general?

[tidal berry]

vet has dummy ammo sustain

otherwise gunker is just.. better?

at being the ranged class

just a bit finnicky at first

but scrier is just better executioner

[ripe quest]

why does kinetic flayer have different damage values in addition to using EP buffs but not consuming charges

what is this

[tidal berry]

and DD isn't amazing as a keystone, but I'll take it over current MF for most guns

[visual stream]

Weapon specialist and VoC, which encourage duality of melee and ranged, are my favorite parts of veteran and it's not even close

[tidal berry]

That sort of the thing I don't get when people talk about gunker being weird

[coarse birch]

you arent killing elites with it right

[tidal berry]

gunker build is like a pure damage/crit build

[ripe quest]

It has a pretty significant damage buff

[ripe quest]

no it's a sterile environment

same environment against carapace BR does less than Kinetic Flayer procs

[tidal berry]

I personally always liked it but I undestand most psykers are allergic to both DD and gunker

[coarse birch]

hey DD gunker is like all i play

zoomies plus damage

thats what i like

[tidal berry]

coming from veteran I feel nothing but envy for scrier it is the better executioner I'd wish I had on my own class

[ripe quest]

Actually even better Warp Rider is giving a small amount of it's buff to BR but not Kinetic Flayer and KF is still outdamaing BR

[tidal berry]

people righteously hate for cookie cutter voc vet but exec is just bad right now

[latent summit]

pog

[south folio]

i'll prob go back to psyker once we get a more interesting force melee

[coarse birch]

one day

[latent summit]

[tidal berry]

new weapons fatshark? Fatshark... fatshark please

[ripe quest]

it has like 0 of the defensive parts of exe stance

[coarse birch]

im almost debating using obscurus again

[south folio]

i now dislike the illisi since i keep thinking about how it could be better than "spam activation before every god damn swing"

[latent summit]

take your slightly different auto rifle and be happy

[tidal berry]

wait exec has defensive parts

[distant lark]

veteran best operative

[tidal berry]

where

[ripe quest]

yea

[distant lark]

zealot worsty

[ripe quest]

I'll grab it one sec

[royal vortex]

ive been cookin

an idea

for a force halberd in my head

[south folio]

exec has stuff like stun immunity and +impact

[latent summit]

force brass knuckles when

[ripe quest]

It's basically TWBS 2.0

[royal vortex]

the most ive got so far is an idea where u have like a special activation that gives u BM

[tidal berry]

dont you have like %20 TDR / speed on scrier though

[royal vortex]

but it locks u into certain swing patterns

[coarse birch]

did it not bother you pre patch 13 lol

[royal vortex]

so u get stuck with a fuckin jab

but if u can line guys up

u jab the shit outta em cuz it has long reach

[south folio]

it was one of the few strongest builds and i was like "whatevs"

but now i've had a taste of weapon diversity and actually playing other classes

and getting brainrot from vet's psword

[visual stream]

Thy Wrath Be Bullet

[ripe quest]

Yeah it does. It's kinda easy to grab too since while it's a 3 point investment psyker's tree is less constricting.

[coarse birch]

getting a whole new moveset designed for certain scenarios on activation would be cool

[latent summit]

whenever they fix scrier's gaze + warp charges, i think melee psyker will become very strong tbh

[royal vortex]

we already have precedent for it kind of

ogryn shovels

[latent summit]

just super high gaze uptime and shred everything

[royal vortex]

always make u do an overhead when u attack

[coarse birch]

well you could keep it activated

[ripe quest]

You can kinda tap into it with certain horde mulchers

[coarse birch]

so its like 2 entire movesets you swap between

which would probably be hard to balance

[tidal berry]

yeah cool and all but I kinda feel like its a moot point, keeping exec usually coincides with things dying fast and having nothing in melee range to stun you anyways

[royal vortex]

i dont really want 2 overlaid movesets

i want special activations to give you unique moves

[ripe quest]

the amount of time you can spend at 0% while in scriers is nuts

[royal vortex]

that can flow in combos

[tidal berry]

guess you can take a hit and still get a shot off

but its better to swap to your melee and just not take that hit

[latent summit]

yeah i was tryin it out and, like, frfr it slays hard. takin down maniac clusters with hardly an issue.
being able to further reduce cd so it's, liek, always up when you need it would be king tho

though a total glass cannon ofc if you make a mistake

[coarse birch]

this would be fine too

[latent summit]

that would be neat. like activate special changes your grip on weapon to give new moveset

[ripe quest]

Well with that you can eat any hit at all and you won't even notice half the time. Ranged included. With melee you can just like, dodge or prep prior to ulting, worst case you only get ~10-15 seconds of value before you need to swap weapons.

[royal vortex]

imagine the world in which a weapon is made without the idea of the activation forcibly resetting your combo

and u give it better animation timings depending on what move preceded it

[tidal berry]

more like you get mulched instantly because you were tunnel visioned as is with most exec veterans

[royal vortex]

so u could have a weapon where it was like light light -> activate -> do activated attack and it does something more interesting than put u back at move 1

[tidal berry]

I'm tired of picking them up

[latent summit]

give us dmc combat with aerial juggles and all

[royal vortex]

one day

[ripe quest]

That's not a fair statement to make. Randoms are often braindead in general and most people here aren't that caliber of braindead.

[tidal berry]

I broke a mouse over trying to keep exec

[muted vale]

how does thrust works? just longer the charge of heavy more power? so waiitng for full animation for max?

[ripe quest]

imagine a world where activations are part of the combo

[coarse birch]

yeah basically

[tidal berry]

Could probably make the same example for scrier psykers exploding

[royal vortex]

this is what i want for crusher 2

[tidal berry]

but they have a choice to weapon swap

or quell

[coarse birch]

it would work very well with crusher

[ripe quest]

I want it for Mk IV Chainsword H3

[royal vortex]

it'll show you the buff icon at the bottom left

you don't have to quite hold it until auto-release

[coarse birch]

i do think activations being able to be part of the combo would also mean i would want weapons to have more combos than light > heavy repeat

[south folio]

guh

activation has an opening attack

and is maintained and is limited by peril instead of being psword 1.1

[royal vortex]

i think something we also lack is a meaningful distinction between a vanguard and relentless attack

[south folio]

and an offensive push-attack 🥲

[ripe quest]

could even make it a weapon unique kind of thing, like having chainswords be able to rev while blocking and/or during a swing to make the next hit a rev one

[coarse birch]

force sword moment

[royal vortex]

there should be a difference between a horde-safety attack and a horde-clearing attack

even if on some weapons or moves they are the same thing

like the heavy swords 6/7 have what 2 vanguards 2 relentless strikes in the light combos

but it doesnt matter because ur just hittin the fkin button anyways

[coarse birch]

theyd have to really juice horde safety moves mostly cause killing 8 dudes per swing does keep you very safe