zealot-class

[signal prism]

Vacuum capsule

[wooden river]

That's not a whataboutism, that's a realistic scenario that often prevents people from sniping targets in a horde

[royal vortex]

it's not a genuine comparison between the utilties as much as it is a question of what is easier to use

[wooden river]

and it's a scenario that VoC makes much easier

[mossy scarab]

I rate exe stance low because a single kill steal from a teammate ends it and it's the only skill in the game that suffers from killstealing

[ember yew]

there's bb psykers too with "DONT HIT THAT BLUE CLOUD" or something

[zealous mesa]

didnt they give plasma infinite cleave

[royal vortex]

no

[mossy scarab]

Highlighting specials is useful though

[royal vortex]

they gave it 100 cleave but it still stops on carapace/bulwark shields(i think)

[signal prism]

Plasma stops on hitting carapace

[royal vortex]

i know it stops on crushers

or mauler headshots

the left click has 50 cleave

[zealous mesa]

it goes through bulwark shield

[royal vortex]

it will hit the bulwark holding the shield

[mossy scarab]

Yes

[royal vortex]

i do not believe it hits subsequent bulwarks

[signal prism]

It won't go through the bulwark yes

[royal vortex]

also a reminder that kant shotgun could shoot through a shield before plasma could

[mossy scarab]

I'm pretty sure plasma ignoring Sheilds was added before the kant was introduced. But the 100 cleave is recent

[light holly]

Its just that, inspecting exe is just

[signal prism]

You shoot bulwarks twice with plasma, first shot staggers them then you get an easy shot on the head

[light holly]

The benefits do not make it any better of an option than the 2 others

[ripe quest]

That's literally a whataboutism. It's not representative of every moment of gameplay nor is it even a problematic situation depending on your build, your skill, or even your teammates. A singular grenade on the class that gets grenade regen talents invalidates that scenario. You or anyone on your team with a horde mulcher invalidates that scenario.

[light holly]

For me it really is just part of an older design on ultimates that did not translate well to the new tree

[zealous mesa]

i like executor stance zoom and bonus damage and highlighting all the little shooters i need to shoot and seeing the trapper about to run around a wall

[light holly]

Because in essence it really is just old exe with talent taxes

[light holly]

Which is fine

VoC and even infil is just betttet

[signal prism]

But uh yeah, exe mf on bolter is still very good

[light holly]

Its why I want to qdvocate for buffing exe in the first place

[wooden river]

Now that's just a misunderstanding of the situation, since Shredders won't always stagger/kill the scariest targets in a horde. They're on a delay, too

[ripe quest]

acthually it's 52.5

[light holly]

Its very just hasn't caught up in terms of power

[zealous mesa]

even if its not as useful as people claim ill still use it on a crusher if im using a lasgun because any extra headshot damage helps when i do like 20 to a crusher

[mossy scarab]

I almost never play vet. But I think it boils down to the extra damage is useless on most weapons because you don't hit any new breakpoints. And aside from that the only utility is highlighting specials

[royal vortex]

how can you even prove this

[wooden river]

It's still not a whataboutism because you didn't even offer a specific scenario where Exe will shine more than VoC

[royal vortex]

please do not tell me it's some weird fuckin charge rate variance that changes the cleave value

[zealous mesa]

you are going down the stairs from the bridge to enclavum baross

[ripe quest]

the game tries to hit 52.5% charge when primary firing and the cleave is directly representative to how much you charge the shot

[spare dome]

ex stance exists so i can shout ENGAGING PRIORITY TARGET before I magdump my bolter into three scab shooters (i hit none of them)

[zealous mesa]

there are 47 scab gunners on the stairs to the alleys

[royal vortex]

[wooden river]

I gave you a scenario where VoC will help you do the sniping job easier, and it's a situation that often appears in Auric gameplay

the point is, it doesn't matter how much utility Exe offers

[mossy scarab]

Finally, someone who gets it

[wooden river]

Exe rewards good play

VoC patches up poor play and makes good play even stronger

It's just going to be more popular

[zealous mesa]

not sure how voice of command helps with sniping

[woeful oyster]

Exec stance is not a noob crutch

[spare dome]

VoC is dumb and boring and I'm legit tired of playing rounds with VoC Vets, especially in the plural

[wooden river]

I already said why lmao

[signal prism]

I can't think of a time that I save voc specifically to stagger a hoard around me

[ember yew]

you are missing the part that before you switch from melee to your bolter, those 3 scab shooters are already dead

[wooden river]

Wall of gunners on the other side of the map, you need to create some breathing room to shoot them

[mossy scarab]

This is kinda how I feel about FotF. It's such an incredibly strong ability that does so many different things that it makes the game easier simply by virtue of it existing

[wooden river]

There's not enough space around or behind you to slide/dodge into while sniping targets

So you shout to create some space, kill the gunners

problem solved

[hushed agate]

Infiltrate is better than both

[wooden river]

Yes

the real answer is

play infil

[zealous mesa]

i think your example relies on you being mid horde

[royal vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4CtCMLIHfk @ripe quest cleave blessings work on tknives

[ripe quest]

Oh so now it's a mixed horde instead of 20 poxwalkers. You're also ignoring like half of what I said. I do not even care anymore Josho basically gave me what I need to know about the Exe vs VoC comparison.

[mossy scarab]

I'm a zealot. I'm always mid horde

[royal vortex]

time to make a wrath savage sweep chainsword

[spare dome]

ye

[mossy scarab]

I see horde I go lick them

[ripe quest]

Everything works on the knives

[wooden river]

Of course it does, because those are often the most dangerous situations

[spare dome]

you havent lived until you've thrown a knife through eight ragers

[woeful oyster]

why?? because you can crutch invis.

[ripe quest]

Except certain things like BM but

[wooden river]

We basically said the same thing

[zealous mesa]

we're talking about veteran for some reason tho

[mossy scarab]

I'm a zealot. My veteran is my ranged weapon

[wooden river]

My examples are based on situations that often appear and threaten groups in Auric

your examples are... nothing

[zealous mesa]

normally when i play veteran i have a team of crowd clearing maniacs anyway so i can still help by picking off a bunch of ranged targets

[wooden river]

you have no examples

[hushed agate]

I can stand in the middle of a horde and shoot for ten seconds with noone hitting me

[zealous mesa]

i gave you an example and you said it didnt work

[woeful oyster]

So I was right

[mossy scarab]

I also do this. Except everyone is hitting me. And also I'm bleeding a lot.

[hushed agate]

Sure idrc

[zealous mesa]

because voice of command apparently staggers enemies from 50 meters away

[royal vortex]

the best part of the exe stance discussion is vet chat wishing it had scrier's and psyker chat wishing it had anything else

[wooden river]

Sorry I missed it

[zealous mesa]

also in executors stance you can still dodge and your damage still increases

[spare dome]

and both are wrong

[wooden river]

That's a situation here exe should help, yes

[mossy scarab]

Is scriers not good now?

[royal vortex]

😔

[signal prism]

Dear God no don't put scriers on exe

[zealous mesa]

was scriers gaze ever bad though

[wooden river]

But it doesn't do much in practice because again, the best vet sniping weapons don't need the zoom or damage increase

[zealous mesa]

i don't really use guns on psyker but i tried to troll a few times and use it with a trauma staff

[ripe quest]

That is vague. You have provided examples that are disputable and changed them when I tried to dispute them to make my arguments against them no longer valid. You also didn't even fully read those disputes.

[hushed agate]

Its akward

[spare dome]

scriers is the only Psyker ability that asks you to maybe have some restraint occasionally so its obviously untenable and bad

[royal vortex]

some ppl hate it some chads (me) love it

[obtuse stirrup]

My slide / Fury / grenade is my ranged weapon :)

[frank night]

I take a snorf of the glue and put exe stance on weapon specialist plasma gun

[wooden river]

I know it's adding more variables, but part of the problem is that the best vet weapons don't need the damage boost

[obtuse stirrup]

Or Zarona for the assholes who really have to die right karking now

[royal vortex]

venting shriek is so goddamn boring

[spare dome]

it is

we also had venting shriek for a year

[zealous mesa]

even if you don't need the damage boost you still have no weapon sway and increased zoom

[spare dome]

I don't need more lol

[zealous mesa]

you'll like it if you shoot a nurgle beast in the back

big numbers go up fast make brain feel good

[ripe quest]

I really enjoy that Crab hinted at Scriers being busted for a very particular reason and I haven't seen anyone find that interaction yet.

[mossy scarab]

Can't tell you how many times I hear "CAN ONE OF YOU RANGED ASSGOKES HANDLE THAT SNIPER!?" And I fly half way across the map to gently boop it on the nose before saying "I am the ranged weapon"

[spare dome]

Yeah nobody notices that the bigger your Scrier # the larger your peepee becomes

[wooden river]

I don't think I failed to address a single thing you said tbh

[ripe quest]

[zealous mesa]

because you get insane movement speed and possible quelling and damage and crit boost

[obtuse stirrup]

Snipers are Zarona food.

[mossy scarab]

I mean yea. Thsts why I use the zarona. But ranged thunder hammer funny

[royal vortex]

isnt it something like the stacks lying and u just get the full damage bonus from em right off the rip

[ripe quest]

"You or anyone on your team with a horde mulcher invalidates that scenario." "It's not representative of every moment of gameplay nor is it even a problematic situation depending on your build,*** your skill, or even your teammates.***"

You only argued my comment on using a grenade by changing the 20 poxwalker example to a mixed horde example.

[obtuse stirrup]

A Zarona bullet is actually a tiny Zealot being propelled at mach 5 holding a tiny thunder hammer

[royal vortex]

i remember seeing him say something about that

[wooden river]

A single grenade does not invalidate that scenario lol

[ripe quest]

I think that was patched.

[wooden river]

That's just wrong

[buoyant pecan]

Aren't grenades still good even in that example

[royal vortex]

😔

[wooden river]

The 20 poxwalkers thing was just a selective example btw, in reality there are often more things happening than 20 poxwalkers

[spare dome]

you know what they didnt patch? my giant peenor

from all my huge gazes

[mossy scarab]

This is Canon now. You can't convince me otherwise. @lusty turtle pin this to make it law

[frank night]

petition to ban ppl talking like they're defending their fkn phd

[ripe quest]

You're not even arguing the things I'm saying anymore.

[wooden river]

passing a law to ban you

[frank night]

many have tried

[spare dome]

all are dead

[royal vortex]

No.

[ripe quest]

Depends on the grenade a bit but shredders or kraks will def stagger a mixed horde long enough to kill some ranged elites. Smokes would make the ranged elites braindead but that's a different argument I don't want to summon.

[wooden river]

"It's not representative of every moment of gameplay nor is it even a problematic situation depending on your build, your skill, or even your teammates."

The original argument is that the situations that often get people into the most trouble are where VoC makes the game easier

[obtuse stirrup]

Kark no, I love this shit. At least when it doesn't become nasty.

[frank night]

rare utilisation of punctuation

[wooden river]

that's why people value VoC more

it simply makes the game easier to play

[north sedge]

i like voc more because voice lines are cooler

[spare dome]

VoC is great for getting you out of situations that Exe Stance would've prevented.

[obtuse stirrup]

Argument is how we learn.

[royal vortex]

coolcab thought i did this when i was getting agitated but the truth is i didn't have the heart to explain the stupid in-joke behind the word "No."

[wooden river]

and makes the situations that give people the most trouble easier

[obtuse stirrup]

VoC also does OP orange toughness.

[wooden river]

Hence why VoC is overtooled

[spare dome]

Orange toughness on a 50% uptime is indeed fucking stupid.

[obtuse stirrup]

Executioner stance won't save you from a poxburster or an overhead.

[spare dome]

No but my Bolter will

[frank night]

alas

[obtuse stirrup]

Orange toughness will preserve your HP bar totally.

[frank night]

we are cabless

[ripe quest]

It's pretty funny to see a plain "No." written out.

[wooden river]

It doesn't matter what the quality of the buffs Exe gives is

[north sedge]

coolcab thought alot of weird things in the end

[wooden river]

when overtoughness attached to a radial knockback on a 30sec or less cooldown exists

[frank night]

ur talking like we killed him like lenny from mice and men

[spare dome]

The knockback is almost irrelevant.

[north sedge]

i mean, he did it to himself

[spare dome]

The overheal toughness is that strong.

[frank night]

did he

[wooden river]

Yeah it's just one more tool on a pile of utility offered by VoC

[spare dome]

But I hate it and it's a crutch.

[wooden river]

it does help for revives but yes

VoC is overtooled

that is why it's valued more than Exe

it's just dumb and busted, and the situations it helps against are more common than a long sightline of gunners shooting at you (which VoC can help with btw)

[royal vortex]

😔

rockstar making me fkin sign in to their stupid launcher to play a game i havent booted in 2 years

[wooden river]

people cherrypicking VoC knockback into a shooting gallery situation is just lmao btw

[north sedge]

he got all pissy about the overhaul then shortly after left over the darcy ban

[wooden river]

That's not why VoC would help in a shooting gallery

[frank night]

i was not present for the cab meltdown

[wooden river]

(it's the overtoughness)

[frank night]

or i was not paying attention

equally possible

[wooden river]

(the overtoughness lets you snipe in peace without worrying about taking real toughness or health damage)

[frank night]

why is this in brackets

[wooden river]

because i'm whispering in your ear

[spare dome]

(I dunno)

[wooden river]

🗣️

[ripe quest]

It's interesting how much occurred during those times.

[spare dome]

(Please let go of my arm)

[frank night]

the content drought era zealot chat

[wooden river]

(no)

[frank night]

was a strange place

[royal vortex]

this lasted long enough u can subdivide it into different eras

[frank night]

josho removed the xmas tree from his ass during that period

[spare dome]

The Autumn and Spring Period of Zealot Chat

[frank night]

the clara era (sengoku jidai)

[royal vortex]

GJ CLARA

NOW THE REST

[naive star]

Whats the Curio meta for Zealots atm?

[spare dome]

9x sprint efficiency

[naive star]

I got atm 2x hp and 1x toughness, but i think more toughness would be better

[spare dome]

3x 5% toughness is a good choice

[naive star]

I mean the main stat though

[royal vortex]

u strictly can't go wrong with any combination of health/toughness

[spare dome]

yes but its almost like running another toughness curio without running it

[naive star]

True, my curios are pretty random as was first lvl 30 and i just quickly did something then

Havent touched em since

[ripe quest]

Toughness and Health curios. Wound and Toughness curios with Martyrdom.

[north sedge]

more toughness good

[spare dome]

ill stick to my nine sprint efficiencies thanks

[naive star]

I already get dizzy without em my knife in hand

What to do to this?

Never tried yet chainaxes

[spare dome]

swing it at the enemy

[naive star]

Thunderous to Thrust or Slaughterer?

[spare dome]

Thrust lets you eat Crushers

So I suppose that

[naive star]

Yeah id have lvl3 such

Dont remember if this was the one that had single targets lights or heavies

[spare dome]

heavy

[naive star]

Carapace overkill in place of Infested?

[spare dome]

dunno

[naive star]

Flak would be useful all the time, but if Carapace would hit some breakpoint for Crushers then that would be sweet

Almost oneshotted crusher but i guess it was crit as yellow numbers instead of orange

[jagged spade]

inspiring barrage question: for the purgator flamer, i understand the 4% toughness for every 10% of magazine spent but i don't quite get the stacks 5 times thing. am i only able to get max 20% toughness per continuous fire?

[obtuse stirrup]

Somebody earlier suggested to go Carapace/Elites, Thrust/Headtaker for the MKXII chainaxe

[spare dome]

you get more and more toughness as you keep firing

[naive star]

Ok thanks

[obtuse stirrup]

Apparently that set-up 1-shots everything south of a monstrosity.

[jagged spade]

ah so once i reach 5 stacks it will speed up toughness? nice.

20% toughness per 10% spent?

[spare dome]

4%, then 8, then 12, then 16, then 20% per 10%

[jagged spade]

that's p good imo

[spare dome]

so if your tank ammo is 30 max it'll trigger on every third ammo consumed

yeah its pretty effective defence

[jagged spade]

especially fighting an array of range trash

[spare dome]

there's also the option of using Voice of Terra

[jagged spade]

sometimes im put in a corner as melee primarily zealot

[spare dome]

either with or instead

[jagged spade]

thats crazy just full toughness without killing or being in coherency

[dawn wharf]

Update: His source on why knife is best was that he beat a High-Int/Shock Auric Mission with knife and the knife's only problem is that the game doesn't have enough enemies to kill (also plugged his channel)

[north sedge]

Lol, not surprised

[dawn wharf]

Yuuuuup

[south folio]

time to build a tent in the psykhanium

[dawn wharf]

I hid that shit honestly. I think it's incredibly poor taste to denigrade other people's content in an attempt to advertise your own channel

[spare dome]

denigrading behaviour? from gamers? on the internet?

[maiden path]

where my seether fans at

[spare dome]

im trapped in 2007

[maiden path]

goode...

i like seether caus burnout paradise had it

[light holly]

The issue is that exe and inversely MF just works better on full auto weapons

[maiden path]

and burnout paradise FUCKS

[light holly]

You know MF the whole

[spare dome]

burnout 3 was a fucken EVENT

[light holly]

"MARKSMENS focus"

Being worse on slower weapons

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/burnout-paradise-meme-jumpscare-gif-24525792

[light holly]

Gotta grab this back to vet chat woops

[dawn wharf]

Me and my dad played so much burnout on ps2

[spare dome]

watched ur video why didnt u put bleed mk6 knife as #1 are u fake

[dawn wharf]

Those were some good memories

[dawn wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[maiden path]

i still want a psp for burnout legends

[maiden path]

too bad them bitches are lik 300 dollars!!

[spare dome]

nobody in my friends circle ever gave a shit about racing or racing games

but we all played burnout 3 to the death

[jagged spade]

@spare dome also do the stacks reset when i stop firing? let's say i stop at 15 ammo

[dawn wharf]

Racing is cool but crashing and violence is peak

[jagged spade]

and fire again

[spare dome]

yes

it's continuous fire

there is a SMALL grace period

[maiden path]

das why i cant play uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the racing sim game on the xbox

[open echo]

why whem i'm playing zealot do i take so much health dmg but when i'm playing vet i take 100<

[maiden path]

forgot its name

[spare dome]

forza? >.>

[maiden path]

yea

only used it to make inital d cars

then its boring!!

[spare dome]

that and the soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZUQ7bhp8Yk

you're welcome

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xZDPPfHP-8

this shit

nothing can top dis song

[dawn wharf]

Oooooo also the soundtracks from BMX/Skateboard games too

[spare dome]

THPS2

was insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFmKj1n5wBQ

[dawn wharf]

I don't even know how to skateboard, but me and my sister would vibe out while pretending we knew what we were doing

[maiden path]

THIS FUCKING SONG

ive been thinking of this song for years

couldnt place its nae

*name

[spare dome]

if you do a song search with your Google Voice app and just scream endlessly during the prompt this is what you get

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-hawk-pro-skater-skateboarding-video-game-gamer-gif-11429189

[open echo]

i am so confused on this lmao

[spare dome]

do you use VoC

[maiden path]

melee focused class

vs ranged

stack toughness ar ar ar

[open echo]

but i also play meele vet

and don't have any isssues

[maiden path]

idk!

i just play zealot like a moron

charge into the largest horde i can see and spam m1

toughness regen on kills does the rest

[spare dome]

@dawn wharf it is very endearing that you cant pronounce inexorable

[open echo]

i just act more silly ig

[spare dome]

but do you use Voice of Command

[open echo]

ye

[spare dome]

thats ur answer

[open echo]

but i always use chatsie

[maiden path]

get the zealot perk that lets you not take stagger

i forgot its name

that things busted

you can just charge at shit shooting you

[south folio]

zealot encourages me to play like a dumbass

[dawn wharf]

Thank you

[south folio]

until death grindset

[spare dome]

hell yea

[open echo]

i always run swift lol

[spare dome]

zealot reveals my true self

[maiden path]

wtf is swift afain

[open echo]

the thing you were talking about

silly

[spare dome]

thy graphs be swift

[south folio]

Soo true

[dawn wharf]

It's funny because for the longest time I didn't realize I had a speech impediment even though I was being pulled for private speech classes in elementary school.

[spare dome]

arco's favourite node

[south folio]

u know it

[spare dome]

i grew up being put into langauge classes for four years of my life

then they discovered

that i just had horrendous hearing

[maiden path]

i use dis, the backstab damage boost, and the backstab resotres cooldown

it works good

i think

[dawn wharf]

At some point my mom told me that they kinda just gave up and said "well as long as he takes his time he doesn't trip as much soooooo"

[maiden path]

i'd have to reinstall the game to find ouit what i was using

[open echo]

750+ hp dmg for zealot and 50< for vet is so silly almost every game

[dawn wharf]

And I was like, "WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL ME. I WOULD HAVE TRIED"

[maiden path]

as long as ur not dying i wouldnt mind taking damage

toughness works good enough

[open echo]

my health is my tghness ig

[maiden path]

das da point of toughness

[spare dome]

language classes were so boring

i had nothing to say

[open echo]

nuh uh

[spare dome]

why words when no words

[maiden path]

yea huh!!!

[spare dome]

i just wanted to be quiet in a corner and play with my K'Nex

[maiden path]

stack toughness curios and have fun das waht i do

and i only have two

one 18+ and one 15+ i think

[open echo]

i run 3

two 17 one 16

[dawn wharf]

Yeah being viscously awkward at the time, I kinda just waited for it to be over since it would be me, a teacher, and one other student sometimes

[open echo]

17 is the max

[maiden path]

do u use untill death

wtf no its not

[dawn wharf]

We'd play a lot of speech games and I would sometimes get candy is all I remembered lol

[open echo]

yes

[maiden path]

17 is not da max for toughness curios

[open echo]

it is lol

[maiden path]

proof

[open echo]

gimme a sec

[spare dome]

17 is max

also you cant really ... disprove a negative so

[maiden path]

ok mayb u right

[dawn wharf]

I was actually half tempted to photoshop inexooobitalbal judgement on the pop up for it to be funnee

[maiden path]

im not acknowldefging it...........

thats stupid

why isnt it +20

[spare dome]

you shouldve done that and brought it up several times but always spelt and pronounced a different way

[vocal pulsar]

17 + 5 % is max

[open echo]

annd 21 is max for hp

[open echo]

lmao

[dawn wharf]

Imma keep this in mind, since i'd love to just make it an inside joke

[maiden path]

fatshark will know ma wrath.......

[vocal pulsar]

with 3 17 + 5% toughness curios, you get nice round numbers on psyker

150 toughness, 175 toughness, 200 toughness

depending on toughness feat node taken

[maiden path]

too many big numbers

i just wanna use ma chainsword

[light holly]

We got no toughness DR nodes

😌

Or they're very few

[maiden path]

the emperor didnt have to use big numbers to fight horus so why do I

[spare dome]

no ... no we have plenty

its VoC

thats the answer lol

you can take the exact same number of hits on vet as on zealot, but if you take those hits on vet with gold toughness up (which you will for 50% of the time), you dont take any bleedthrough

[light holly]

Horus built the BP to kill the emperor but Ollanius said "Incoherency Health damage reduction"

[light holly]

I mean it still ain't toughness dr nodes 🥹
If you dont have VOC up, and you start getting peppered by 6 7, or 8 gunners you're gonna feeeel it

Which... I guess anybody would feel that

[maiden path]

when da hell can we get missonary zealots

[light holly]

But the toughness DR helps righht?

[spare dome]

you can have just as much on zealot

[maiden path]

i wish they'd give zealot real robes

and not weird redemptinost necromunda gear

[spare dome]

desire for worldly possessions?

[maiden path]

desire for

swag

emperor can have all dat gold and little trinkets on his armor but i get the 13nth century little preacher outfit

i still want a billhook flamer

[open echo]

i didn't just take 1k hp dmg in a game you did

[open echo]

also ello smudgels

[shy river]

after getting a skullcrusher/hammerblow crusher and messing around with it I can see why people are liking this thang

[open echo]

suggestions?

[still quartz]

February, no news of incoming big update

Where's my copium tank

Who took it

[maiden path]

still weird 2 me they never mention cawador redemptionists despite all the penance zealot gear being based off it

[dawn wharf]

I'm a lil miffed there is no comm link

Because they could at least say "Big things soon™️" and that would be something 🤷

[open echo]

same :(

[still quartz]

I feel like they just yoinked some of the Darktide devs over to the Vermintide team to work on Versus mode there

[dawn wharf]

That would be sad 😦

[still quartz]

And then Darktide is just now backburner

I have no idea how game dev works

Don't take my word for anything

[spare dome]

I mean something real goofy happened over on the VT2 side of things

[still quartz]

Yep

[dawn wharf]

But I'm down if they even just wanted to say that everyone is on an extended winter break, will be back "VAGUE_TIME_REDACTED". And that would be good enough for me too

[spare dome]

I dunno what and empty speculating is dumb and pointless

But it was kinda funny

[still quartz]

Can only keep inhaling hopium and waiting for something to happen

Anniversary update, then they said "peace" other than fixing some big crashes

God I'd love some new weapons instead of more weapon variations...

[dawn wharf]

Yup. Catfish did at least mention they aren't all dead though

[lusty turtle]

idk why people are expecting a comm link

we haven't had one since may

[still quartz]

We're not "expecting" one

[light holly]

Well to be fair, pvp vermintide alpha test got delayed so

[still quartz]

It's mostly cause there's literally been no communication to us about the current plans for Darktide

Feels a bit dead right now

[dawn wharf]

YUP

[maiden path]

20 dollars if they quietly stop supporting darktide and go bankrupt

[north sedge]

🤔

[still quartz]

Nah Shatfark sat on VT2 forever and it's still going well

[fleet zealot]

gw wouldn't let that happen and neither would fartshart

[still quartz]

So it'll be fine

[lusty turtle]

i expect you to send me that money

[still quartz]

Next update won't be big I assume but

Probably something

[maiden path]

i got lik 50 dolars...

max..

das euyf..

[distant lark]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-cans-dancing-trash-cans-trash-can-dancing-trash-can-shut-up-gif-24101099

[open echo]

(i'm doing svg sweep)

[fleet zealot]

they just know if they don't do something cool per update people are gonna complaing "where crafting rework where weapon customization where new map where where where" more than usual

[dawn wharf]

Don't think Darktide's dead, but the lack of a roadmap, vision for updates, etc, and we are currently a month in is kinda disappointing

[still quartz]

The moment someone made a Weapon Customization mod, everyone wants it officially

Me personally, I think it's kinda dumb

[dawn wharf]

Mainly because a lot of people then think it's dead

[lusty turtle]

they stopped doin like "visions of whats to come" after there was backlash over the update back in uhhhh

may june?

[open echo]

i really wish there was a roadmap, but it might spoil some excitement

[still quartz]

If anything I'd just want customizable scopes for Helbores and Infantry Lasguns + Autoguns

[maiden path]

weapon customization mod was supposed to be in da game officaly

i think

[lusty turtle]

cause the update had what they said the update had in it, and people decided that meant it was gonna have more

[maiden path]

but they removed it and some defv said its cause 'no cod allowed'

now its, its completely own thing

[still quartz]

Don't attach stats to the attachments?

[maiden path]

what

[frank night]

write me a comms link

[dawn wharf]

I think that the alternative of nothing is worse though

[still quartz]

I mean that's pretty much what COD attachments did

If they don't put stats on said Attachments it'll be fine anyway

[maiden path]

?

[still quartz]

?

[maiden path]

wtf u talking about.........

[still quartz]

?

[fleet zealot]

I'd rather have stats attached so it's meaningful customization

[maiden path]

og coustimization mod didnt add the bayonets n shit

now it does

wit da plugin...

[still quartz]

I'm not talking about mod

[fleet zealot]

in a perfect world we'd dip the variant system

[light holly]

The community still poopy

[maiden path]

wtf u talking about

[light holly]

And I am part of the community

[fleet zealot]

that isn't the real reason

[light holly]

😌

[fleet zealot]

they couldn't have it finished before launch

[still quartz]

?

[maiden path]

why not just add it

post launch

[light holly]

Itslike when they squished the krieger chest set because a handful of people complained

I hate it out here

[open echo]

if they put stats and make it more simmilar to payday that wouldn't be very good imo

[fleet zealot]

just turn it on 4head

just make it work

[maiden path]

what

you know they can work on shit after the games released

i hasve to find my fucked up bolter hold on

[still quartz]

I mean I heard VT2 got good after like 2 years of release so maybe Darktide

[lusty turtle]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[still quartz]

Where's my copium inhaler

[lusty turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1199759161840386158/genestealers.png?ex=65ccf04a&is=65ba7b4a&hm=b80ef336b3b1205b2c5aec16b39bc7a8fe715f2ffaaeda5aaf902b37a2170de1&

[still quartz]

Stop taking it

[maiden path]

my old zealot and the fucked up bolter i made with weapon costimzation

[still quartz]

That Bolter isn't even a Bolter anymore

Thanks I hate it

[maiden path]

maybe das da point...

[lusty turtle]

thats just a stalker bolter

[maiden path]

that skin on it is offical

[still quartz]

That scope should be on a Helbore by default

Damn ironsights

[maiden path]

i forgot dat

that skin fucks hard

i like it

[ripe quest]

Dude imagine if the thing can't be done in solo lobbies

[median steeple]

the only thing I wanted from the RT rotation and I forgor

[south folio]

OH COME ON

[maiden path]

also made this psuedo longlas

[south folio]

GOD DAMNIT

[maiden path]

it fucking sucks lol

[ripe quest]

I'm jesting I have no idea arco

[shy river]

PUT SCOPE ON RIFLE? NYET, RIFLE IS FINE

[maiden path]

the scope doesnt work

[south folio]

o

damnit so crab just dropped a "there's a busted interaction with scrier's gaze anyways i'm not telling you lamayo"?

[maiden path]

dis what my zealot looks like

[ripe quest]

Not recently no, I was referring to stuff he was saying back when Scriers first came out. He was hinting that there was some out of the box thing with it.

I haven't yet found anything similar to what he was referring to.

[south folio]

hmm

either stealth fixed or rather obscure

my guess is that it's some keystone interaction or with the precognition upgrade node

[open echo]

mine

[ember yew]

could be the same bugged interaction like zealots infinite stealth?

[ripe quest]

I'll take a look at it.

[open echo]

this hood goes well with chem dogs stuff

[south folio]

one can hope

[maiden path]

wtf i wish u were POOR

i want some of the crylic shops items or whatever they're called

but im not paying 15 bucks for an outfit

[open echo]

i-

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-the-simpsons-funny-dance-gif-21612353

[still quartz]

I am

https://tenor.com/bzkeQ.gif

[ripe quest]

I always figured it was something regarding crits.

[maiden path]

i dont think that makes u sigmer i think dat makes u stupid

[coarse birch]

😔

[still quartz]

[south folio]

i crossed off crits cuz i assumed that the other classes have their own crit stuff and share the gun weapons

and i can't think of any whacky crit stuff with the staffs

[coarse birch]

its probably some really obscure random thing

like something it doesnt interact with properly

[still quartz]

I just use Scrier's Gaze with Duelling Sword

[north sedge]

i mean, just blow on the crab conch and see if he brings wisdom

[coarse birch]

oh my god did stan fuck up emily sock boppers too

[north sedge]

twice in a row

but this one was funnier

[still quartz]

Stan always does something and we clown on him on it

[south folio]

man why does smite have such a cool target highlight

[coarse birch]

arco

dont tell me

[ripe quest]

well after looking at it for like 3 seconds it has an unlisted weakspot damage buff

[royal vortex]

arco

[still quartz]

🙏

[south folio]

nah it's not to do with smite

[south folio]

by default besides the thing with precognition?

[ripe quest]

Yeah by default, 10% weakspot damage bonus.

[south folio]

huh neat i suppose

free weakspot dmg

mankar

jump into a volcano

turn an oven on and put yourself into it

after slathing yourself in olive oil

[still quartz]

The more you type

[south folio]

and some seasoning

[still quartz]

The more

[maiden path]

stop EMOTING him!

[still quartz]

That's it

[maiden path]

he's a small CHILD

[south folio]

mankar will be baked

[still quartz]

Mankar woke up and chose violence

[coarse birch]

arco have you been cooking recently or somethin g

every time you tell someone to die its related to cooking or baking

[vocal pulsar]

@still quartz

Look how bad arco is

He blew up at the start of relay station

[still quartz]

Idunno that's me on a Sunday

And maybe a Wednesday

[spare dome]

i cant say this scientifically but im pretty sure thats a photo of two dummies

[maiden path]

hamdulillah he will be baked

[coarse birch]

arco so bad he blew himself up on vet

[ripe quest]

@south folio out of curiosity what's the deal with precog on scriers?

[open echo]

huh

[royal vortex]

@vocal pulsar

[open echo]

what did i miss

[south folio]

which deal?

i haven't really faffed around with scrier's much besides dying

[ripe quest]

you were saying there was something extra to it

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-3d-couch-explosion-gif-25176966

[south folio]

oh if it was what i recently said then it was an assumption

[ripe quest]

Oh I might've misread

mm

[south folio]

since that is the only other thing that I could think that would have some whacky interaction

[ripe quest]

the ult in general references the damage buffs like, a lot

so I'm wondering if something is up with that or this ult is held together by paper clips

[coarse birch]

i guarantee its held together by paper clips

[open echo]

iv'e never used scriers

how does it do?

i only really use venting

[coarse birch]

its p much the only ult i run but only because i run DD exclusively p much

buts its good

[north sedge]

it makes you have the best ult lines in the game (if you're loner)

if you're the more homework plz dork you say nothing, very funny

[vocal pulsar]

I think it's time to kill everyone

[coarse birch]

id argue its likely weaker than dome cause dome stops the game

[south folio]

mankar is just misunderstood

[coarse birch]

but its still fine

i understood mankar pretty well

[open echo]

i can probably kill someone with this image

[still quartz]

You don't have + Bleed on the Perks

Nor on the Modifiers

[north sedge]

ah but you see, shield isn't "I THINK IT'S TIME TO KILL EVERYONE"

[still quartz]

Smh

[coarse birch]

isnt i think its time to kill everyone not on loner

[open echo]

i run it just to annoy my friends

[vocal pulsar]

@coarse birch it's on loner

[north sedge]

it is on loner

[vocal pulsar]

Female loner says it

[north sedge]

so does male

[vocal pulsar]

I play female loner

[coarse birch]

i swear i run loner

[north sedge]

loner has like 15 different lines for scriers

[coarse birch]

might be mixing up personalities then

[sterile stone]

That name really got me

[vocal pulsar]

Def are

[north sedge]

loner is the german/euro one

[coarse birch]

ah ok then i am

[vocal pulsar]

Male loner is German

[coarse birch]

whats the the one that doesnt like the emperor

then

[median steeple]

goofy ahhh perk name

[obtuse stirrup]

Male loner is the petulant little bitch

[vocal pulsar]

Female has some Indian accent variant

[north sedge]

loner

[coarse birch]

loner or my discord name

[obtuse stirrup]

Yeah, Loner

[sterile stone]

Your name

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-democracy-liberty-helldiver-unity-gif-24342049

[median steeple]

6 days

cant wait

[sterile stone]

I feel lied to

[median steeple]

gonna bang

[sterile stone]

I thought we were gonna get the black and gold trim armor

The others are still fire

But man

Look at them

[median steeple]

thats HD1 im pretty sure

[north sedge]

lemon inheritance sounds like gilf pornos or something

[median steeple]

and you can change the color of your gear in game

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-vince-mcmahon-gif-20562072

[median steeple]

search it on urban dictionary

[north sedge]

i'm good

though i did make stan read the goatse wikipedia page

[coarse birch]

i only changed my name to it because luna said my name was lemon now and then josho said lemon inheritance

and stan hasnt misnamed me yet

[sterile stone]

This fried my synapses

[north sedge]

he was unaware of what goatse was

so it was a real treat when he got to the description

[median steeple]

I searched it and couldnt find anything

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[sterile stone]

Atleast he doesn't know about the jar

[median steeple]

lemon inheritance does not come up with anything

Sad

[north sedge]

that one is worse

goatse just brought joy and laughter

[coarse birch]

is stan unaware of the jar

probably for the best

[sterile stone]

@median steeple Varingian has released correct?

[median steeple]

mhm

[sterile stone]

How does she play?

[median steeple]

she has no hyper armor

so pain

[sterile stone]

She seems like a ganker based character

That heavy finisher just locking you in a animation for a sec

[median steeple]

shes anti gank but no HA so its pain

[sterile stone]

Buuuuut

Doesn't she have all guard?

[median steeple]

no its aramusha

superior block so its temp

[sterile stone]

Does not sound like it was worth the money then ngl

[median steeple]

shes fun to play

and very

[median steeple]

loud

[median steeple]

stylish baby

[fleet zealot]

they have been doofus

[median steeple]

doobie

[south folio]

@ripe quest just asked crab, it doesn't seem like there's a whacky interaction or he's not telling the deets

[fleet zealot]

we've gotten new variants, weapons, about 10% of the total amount of bugs fixed , new maps, new missions and mission types

[sterile stone]

Feed it banana slices

[median steeple]

I think this discord had a collective dementia moment and people have forgotten that FS has vacay from christmas to like half way through feb

[fleet zealot]

and they cannot just turn on WCM in it's current state because A) it requires balance between all the classes so ogryn and mostly psyker isn't left out

[ripe quest]

There probs isn't a weird interaction then, I doubt he would lie about smth like that.

[copper hawk]

blue power ranger

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-brba-breaking-bad-gif-26777019

[royal vortex]

basically everything had some funky stuff going on at p13 release so its probs fixed by now

[fleet zealot]

B) WCM maker alone had to bug fix an entire shopping lift of bugs

[south folio]

sad

[ripe quest]

From what I can tell though all I'm seeing are some maybe really goofy builds regarding scriers but chances are anything goofy got patched

[copper hawk]

@median steeple

[hard nexus]

mraow

[median steeple]

lmao

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-alastor-me-if-you-even-care-hazbin-hotel-episode-7-spoiler-gif-9102086523797050971

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-alastor-me-if-you-even-care-hazbin-hotel-episode-7-spoiler-gif-9102086523797050971

[median steeple]

stan never disappoints in his collective insanity

[royal vortex]

i opened up a reddit thread about experimental anti-meta builds

[spare dome]

day three of me staring at the Helldivers 2 preorder screen and not clicking Buy just to pretend i am a better person

[royal vortex]

and the first three things i saw were

chainsword revolver vet

kickback gunlugger ogryn

and agri brauto crusher zealot

[spare dome]

lmao i know

[median steeple]

Do it

[royal vortex]

DO YOU HAVE

[median steeple]

NOW

[royal vortex]

NO FUCKING CREATIVITY

none of these are anti meta

where are my fkin crackhead builds

[spare dome]

many are firmly meta

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/sseth-gif-27687542

[ripe quest]

those are just solid meta builds

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/u6swkq

[spare dome]

i was tempted to go into that thread and just post "Tac Axes" and leave it at that

[royal vortex]

MY ANTI META OGRYN BUILD

[ripe quest]

bros have no class

[royal vortex]

genuinely disappointed in redditors

where are my shitter builds

this was the one thing i expected them to be good at

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1ah7tct/lets_talk_experimental_unique_and_antimeta_builds/

feel SHAME

[sterile stone]

Proof Ogryn needs molotovs

[royal vortex]

taken out of context

[royal vortex]

unironically

[spare dome]

"i got this niche build off a YouTube video with only 30,000 views its Surge Staff with Assail and fire ult"

[royal vortex]

stubbers feel like shittier variants of the iags/brautos

how are u doing less damage with kickback

are u not shooting the gun

[median steeple]

god I hope he does use TTS

[spare dome]

forgot to reload

[sterile stone]

See I said I used a Claestetics build before

[median steeple]

it would be amazing

[sterile stone]

And I never heard the end of it

[still quartz]

Krieger Psyker Purgatus Flame build sounding kinda neat rn

All the fire

[royal vortex]

you dont wanna hear what he says with the audio message option

[spare dome]

yea dont make that mistake

[sterile stone]

Harrassment from all corners of the globe

[still quartz]

EVERYTHING has to be on fire

[spare dome]

clay lul

[north sedge]

stan in voice is an experience

beyond the typos

[sterile stone]

In my defence

I didn't know Clay had bad takes

At the time

[north sedge]

though sometimes he does mixup weird stuff say, like the gandhi and jabba the hutt

[still quartz]

Does Stan have typos while speaking too

[north sedge]

basically the same dude

[royal vortex]

stan managed to mangle my name in voice

and called me fucking chihuasho

[north sedge]

no he just says insane shit mostly

[royal vortex]

verbal autocorrect bug

[still quartz]

Oh so an IRL Psyker.

Got it

[spare dome]

im sure some of his builds are totally fine but yeah his takes and his uhhh knowledge base in general is kinda lacking

[maiden path]

why i get pinged 4 times

[sterile stone]

Chihuahua Josh

[still quartz]

Without the mind powers

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/y77ys8

[spare dome]

but its less the ignorance and more his reaction to ignorance

[median steeple]

sounds like an avenue for horrific things

[south folio]

mild volume warning

[sterile stone]

You've been asked to post drip

[north sedge]

that clip is stan

[maiden path]

al i got..

[still quartz]

[maiden path]

al i got is blue zealot

[north sedge]

normalized is doing alot in that filename, lol

[ripe quest]

Arco all I'm seeing are just like, 'keep scriers up for the entirety of a holdout' type things which I'm assuming are already known about

[sterile stone]

Where's your black and gold Scion helm

[ripe quest]

we are ruined

[royal vortex]

you wouldn't EAT IT?

such a great line

[maiden path]

i dont HAVE THE SCION HELMET!!

im POOOR!

[south folio]

it's so joever

[sterile stone]

You're not poor

WHAT YOU MEANT TO SAY

WAS YOU LOST

[acoustic dune]

Yall got any zealot brain rot

[ripe quest]

makes me want to play psyker for the first bit in a while though

[sterile stone]

A EXPENSIVE PIECE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[south folio]

my thinking was too normal and shrimple

[south folio]

yeah it would've been an excuse for me to go back onto it

[sterile stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szcaq2GdOAs

[acoustic dune]

Mmh extra protein

[maiden path]

frank horrigan ate my power armor :augh:

[south folio]

soooo true

[frank night]

sooooooo true

[sterile stone]

That scion helmet is gonna come out of your dockets

[still quartz]

I forgot who showed it but Zealot has like actual full metal knight helm in the code somewhere right?

[acoustic dune]

Show

[sterile stone]

AND YOU WILL SERVE THE INQUISITOR TIL YOU PAAAAY FOR THAT HELMET

[acoustic dune]

ME

[still quartz]

I DON'T HAVE IT

[acoustic dune]

You lie

[still quartz]

SOMEONE ELSE FOES

[acoustic dune]

Thou have it

[still quartz]

AND I WANT TO KNOW WHO

[acoustic dune]

I know it

[still quartz]

Kneel, knave

Thine Old English is lacking in prose

[acoustic dune]

Aye

[still quartz]

Anyway I don't have it

[sterile stone]

Kanith

[still quartz]

It didn't come with my Xbox

[acoustic dune]

I mainly speak low gothicc

Saldy

[still quartz]

Understandable have a great day

[acoustic dune]

Anyhow

[frank night]

why do you brandish the frog arcotash

[acoustic dune]

Need zealot brain rot vid

[still quartz]

One day

[south folio]

to repel the evil that has invited themselves here (you)

[still quartz]

I said I was gonna make new videos but college made me busy

And other games

[acoustic dune]

Are you a YouTuber or smth

[still quartz]

No

[acoustic dune]

Good

Stay in school

It is cool

[still quartz]

I made like 4 Darktide gameplay vids and that's it

[sterile stone]

Kalhoun is a furry artist

[still quartz]

Lies

I'd be rich if I was

I wouldn't be in college

[acoustic dune]

Mmh

Let me be the judge of that

[sterile stone]

Caught me on that one

[still quartz]

I'd be in a mansion drinking margaritas with ladies at the pool and also have questionable morals

[bleak apex]

Just avoid taxes to be rich

[acoustic dune]

Lies

[still quartz]

Instead I draw purple anime waifu

[acoustic dune]

We all know furries artist have a dark corner where they keep all there furry commission

[spare dome]

id be doing exactly what im doing now but with a better computer better drugs and more rgb

[fading vale]

my off meta zealot build is playing zealot

[still quartz]

Couldn't be me

[sterile stone]

Bro wants the RGB weed

[acoustic dune]

Show me thine corner

[still quartz]

I have none

[frank night]

is this the keystone free thread

[bleak apex]

Just be a femboi vtuber and make millions per year

[acoustic dune]

For I must inspect if you speak truth

[still quartz]

Scour the whole of the internet

There will be no trace

For I never had any to begin with

[royal vortex]

i understand the irony now

the "off-meta" reddit builds are the ones that arent absolutely stupid

[fading vale]

it's this one https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1ah7tct/lets_talk_experimental_unique_and_antimeta_builds/

[acoustic dune]

Lies

We all had a deviantart account

[still quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-hank-scorpio-homer-simpson-you-only-move-twice-gif-20385109

[frank night]

why do ppl contract rabies at the sight of the word meta

[acoustic dune]

Sadly

[still quartz]

Good luck looking for mine

[sterile stone]

Depends on the person

[still quartz]

Stereotype

[acoustic dune]

Muh too lazy

Wanna draw monkeys kissing?

[sterile stone]

But it's usually associated with unlikeable sweat lords that take shit too seriously

[north sedge]

im not entirely surprised, people overvalue marty and chorus generally

[still quartz]

And also because most of the time meta becomes unbelievably boring or unappealing

I just make something and hope it can hold up

[north sedge]

meta has become a meaningless word

cause it's slapped on everything

[acoustic dune]

I like the funny book

[fading vale]

that's pretty meta

[still quartz]

Oh boy I made my Hammer heal a ton of Toughness per Heavy Swing kill

[quasi marsh]

the femboys arent that popular actually

[still quartz]

Oh boy this funny Chainaxe Bleed build is funny

[quasi marsh]

[acoustic dune]

Just get momentum

[sterile stone]

Playing with Laz made me realize ledges and stairs ain't all that safe.

[royal vortex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b283518-a332-4e77-b2f8-2b512694aab2/meta-vet-shotgun-build

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/metaverse-zuckerberg-zuck-mark-zuckerberg-meta-gif-23714532

[still quartz]

Yeah you're right

[fading vale]

they are opportunities for fun

[sterile stone]

For some reason when you're in my game

[still quartz]

You have to be a big booba mommy waifu with not-very-vague sexual advances and openly lewd

[sterile stone]

The AI disregards physics

[still quartz]

[sterile stone]

And throws me through the wall or floor

[fading vale]

lol

[still quartz]

I do not want to go down the rant that is why I do not like Western VTubing

[quasi marsh]

those aren't actually that popular either tbh

[still quartz]

I would get absolutely banned

[acoustic dune]

Smth smth taigaholic

[still quartz]

[bleak apex]

They’re aren’t femboying hard enough

[quasi marsh]

😔

[bleak apex]

[acoustic dune]

They lack the boy part

That sounds wrong

I should play darktide

[quasi marsh]

what is darktide

[acoustic dune]

Pauday2 but warhammer

[median steeple]

wagh

[frank night]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sterile stone]

Guys the thermal hammer

Go get it

[royal vortex]

why are you Morris

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[fleet zealot]

i hate it hair

[frank night]

this is some guidance counsellor having a mental break shit

[royal vortex]

I hate it hair

[coarse birch]

i hate it hair

[royal vortex]

god i wish the ironhelm had just a slightly better moveset

[frank night]

it was made that way

[copper hawk]

IM DARKY!?

[frank night]

by the rats

[coarse birch]

😔

[royal vortex]

the RATS.

i just remembered it existed and i got depressed

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/have-at-thee-rat-attack-gif-15736788871532840618

[sterile stone]

Just embrace Evis

Make it your entire existence

[royal vortex]

@ripe quest does skullcrusher juicing hordeclear on ironhelm require any specific setup

[coarse birch]

josho is not a chain weapons enjoyer

[royal vortex]

i dont have enough traumatic experiences with women

or potent enough autism

to be contra

[royal vortex]

the xv evis is close enough to the appeal of a big brain off sword that i can tolerate it

(and it one-shots bulwarks without any real setup)

[coarse birch]

i do like the mk15

[ripe quest]

Absolutely obliterating a crowd of fodder or bruisers requires something external to CC them. Otherwise just knock as many things onto the floor and use Thrust as much as possible.

[frank night]

[ripe quest]

It'll still outpace Slaughterer if there isn't an external source of CC.

[frank night]

oh i see

[royal vortex]

dont doubt me mittins

i know my limits

[ripe quest]

Only thing in particular I'd recommend is grevious wounds for the rager stagger on lights

[royal vortex]

it is time to see if i am about to reenact the 2008 stock market crash with my resources

or if i have banked skullcrusher from the great hammer quest of april-may 2023

[coarse birch]

what are we cooking

SC ironhelm

[austere furnace]

hello i have taken a long break from darktide and am wondering if they ever fixed crafting where you can get blessings you want and/or good bases without heavy rng

[coarse birch]

when did you take a break

[royal vortex]

oh my god

i didnt save a single one

[austere furnace]

november

[coarse birch]

its the same

[austere furnace]

rip lol

[coarse birch]

assuming you mean november 2023

[royal vortex]

@frank night im betting on red

[coarse birch]

then yeah its the exact same system

[austere furnace]

have they said anything about ever fixing that?

[coarse birch]

not really, brief hints

at best

[royal vortex]

am i really fkin doin this

oh man i am

[coarse birch]

it will probably get changed at some point but we dont know when

do i have SC on hammer

[royal vortex]

incoming malding

[austere furnace]

anything big changed since november 2023?

[frank night]

i lost it all guys