#zealot-class

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quasi marsh
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vet has a lot of melee buffing nodes that also work on range

fading vale
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sustained is about as free as it gets which is just damage headtaker

quasi marsh
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there's also about 15% melee and 25% finesse for pure melee only

neat igloo
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well the issue with this it sounds like is that the 1 tap is a really close thing

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and a lot of vet melee boosts are completely static

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whereas with something like momentum you're gonna get more variability

fading vale
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yeah

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and duellist

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which is a huge buff, but short and on dodge

neat igloo
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zealot has higher highs, but less consistent overall performance

quasi marsh
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ok i just tried it

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i literally cant 1 tap without flak even with 80 all dmg stats and bm4

neat igloo
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with tax i just start with agile engagment, which gives me the bruiser 1 tap before the headtaker stacks are up

quasi marsh
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let me put disdain back on

neat igloo
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holy shit

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the desperation when you come crawling to disdain

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also, you could literally put on desperation

quasi marsh
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lol

neat igloo
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heavy + push attack is a good combo for taxes

quasi marsh
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disdain pushes it over

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and

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i already have

neat igloo
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UNFORTUNATE

quasi marsh
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desperation

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LOL

fading vale
quasi marsh
neat igloo
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only for every other hit : )

quasi marsh
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this was my tree

quasi marsh
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all i can say is im testing with the loadout mod so im setting the weapon stats to w/e i want

fading vale
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figured you are resting rn

long sluice
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is Bolter a good option?

fading vale
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it's decent

long sluice
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what is top meta now? mk5?

quasi marsh
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guess ill just have to unarmored/flak

fading vale
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uh mk5 what, columnus IAG?

long sluice
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yeah

fading vale
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it is considered one of the strongest weapons

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zarona also very overtuned

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the brautos are great

long sluice
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what is brautos?

fading vale
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just not lasguns more or less

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braced autogun

long sluice
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ah

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Shotguns?

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any good

fading vale
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yes

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I love kant and lawbringer

long sluice
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which one is better

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I can keep eye out for shotties

fading vale
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Kant is the best all around for zealot

long sluice
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just takes forever to farm fkn blessings

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I made 3 characters just because I want to farm melk bucks

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I haven't bought anything for like a week lol

lavish flame
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Is this with or without agile engagement

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And precision strikes

fading vale
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you can do funny things with a scattershot manstopper shotgun with piety and throwing knives too

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cause the knives inherit your gun blessings when you throw them with gun out

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and also inherit the perks, so you always want maniac on gun or melee for 1 shot on ragers with throwing knife

spare dome
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dont you fucken hate

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when the zipper on your fly is like

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stuffed and stuck in the bottom

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and you cant fkn

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flick it out

rose flower
spare dome
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cheap ass jeans

wooden river
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Even if Vet has better melee damage nodes than Zealot

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zealot still has better frontline due to ten jillion sources of damage reduction and toughness regen

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plus TWBS

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and cheat death

spare dome
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none of that matters becuase VoC

wooden river
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VoC is indeed a thing

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a very good thing

neat igloo
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but you can also do it without the 10% melee damage node, so there's like a talent point's worth of leniency

wooden river
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zealot still has better frontline talents outside of that

neat igloo
wooden river
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Chastise alone lets Zealot dive way more aggressively than any other class

neat igloo
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even with voc veteran is gonna have a harder time just running at gunners

wooden river
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even ogryn

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(Ogryn players will deny this)

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(they're wrong)

neat igloo
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zealot has a lot of ancillary utility that really enables the melee dive playstyle

wooden river
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^

neat igloo
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that is ultimately more conducive to that playstyle than just giga juiced melee damage

wooden river
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TWBS, Second Wind + Good Balance, Holy Rev, Momentum dodge buffs

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Superior mobility and on-demand toughness regen via Chastise combined with 50% tdr on crit, for a class that already juices its toughness regen

neat igloo
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i appreciate zealot because it gives me the opportunity to eat 3 crusher overheads in a row instead of just one

spare dome
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yea but again VoC. and i dont mean just for the Veteran

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thats a buff for four playefs

wooden river
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VoC alone can get you into a deep horde

rose flower
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Chastise alone just says.
“Here’s some toughness. Have fun”

spare dome
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and its dumb lol

wooden river
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but it won't always get you out

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Chastise can

neat igloo
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yeah it's dumb

wooden river
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VoC is very dumb though, yes

rose flower
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And you can do it again and say”
“Here’s ALL your toughness. Fuck em up”

spare dome
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im starting to think only zealot relic should have overheal

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and VoC should just be something else

wooden river
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it probably should, yes

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They were trying to make Kruber 2.0 with VoC

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the problem is

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Merc Shout was already a serious balancing issue in the early days of VT2

spare dome
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if it regened everyones toughness with no overheal it would be gud still

wooden river
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and now Darktide lets you have multiple krubers in a squad

spare dome
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overheal is just mechanically way too stacked

wooden river
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I'd be fine if VoC also gave toughness resist

spare dome
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and 50% uptime on overheal is farcical

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just way too strong

south folio
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VoC being psyker shout but no fire and better defense is very nice

wooden river
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Overheal preventing elite overheads, sniper shots, bursters, etc. from damaging true health is super cracked

south folio
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100% toughness refill is also silly

wooden river
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which is why it's more reasonable on Zealot Chorus: you have to commit to the overheal

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VoC has hardly any recovery, and it's not channeled

neat igloo
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it being an area stun as opposed to a cone is also great

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actually enables the sharpshooter playstyle more than the other two, cause you can just stand in the middle of a hoard and snipe

south folio
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yeah just run wildly out of position, ult to stagger, and you now have space to snipe stuff

neat igloo
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my go to vet playstyle is to just disrespect the hoard by standing in the middle of them without engaging

south folio
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yeah and if you get smacked

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guess what the solution to that is

lavish flame
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Blame the team

south folio
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TRUEEEEEEE

neat igloo
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"hello? protect the backline?" i say as i stand perma-ads'd 20 meters ahead surrounded by poxwalkers

south folio
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i can't believe my team would do this to me

neat igloo
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i have to be here the ogryn keeps walking in front of me

pallid hemlock
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the ogryn needs moral support, gotta mag dump the shit he's beating up

neat igloo
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playing veteran is just a survival horror game but specials are the pages and ogryn is slenderman

open echo
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is this useable?, got it as a eg

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rose flower
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Yeah I’d say it is

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Maybe just change sprint efficiency and. Idk if Perfect Strike is good

pallid hemlock
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perfect strike is off brand deathblow and not nearly as good

open echo
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ye

frozen glen
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put headtaker and rampage on it

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or headtaker and deathblow

open echo
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i refuse to use sprint effc

frozen glen
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you'll either get a perk that only boosts 25% dmg on a single armour type or a perk that boosts 25% dmg globally

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blessing

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I mean

void zealot
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Praise the Omnissiah!

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open echo
void zealot
open echo
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DAMMIT

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so sad that i missed that

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dclaw is my most used weapon

void zealot
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Never been a dclaw person, but now gotta try it after work lol

open echo
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out of my 700 hrs 250+ are dlcaw

desert vessel
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dclaw and eviscerators are all I use

open echo
void zealot
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What secondaries do you guys use to deal with carapace?

open echo
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revi

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all i really take on zealot

obtuse stirrup
open echo
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same

obtuse stirrup
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You can also take Fury of the Faithful with pretty much any ranged

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Since it has funky interactions with armour

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Agri Shotgun can also work, but it's maximum clunk factor

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Actually, wait, not quite maximum

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Bolter is the clunkiest solution

visual blade
obtuse stirrup
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If you want to just fuck up Carapace and Unyielding and don't care about any other factor, the Bolter is still king. It's just the "any other factor" part is a really big deal

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We can't use Hellbores right? I think most of the good anti-armour ranged are locked away from Zealots

solar gorge
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zealot's anti armor should be in it's melee anyway

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but you still have the revolver with hand canon+surgical

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which is one of the top choices

neat igloo
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laspistol will kill 2 crushers per chastise

obtuse stirrup
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but it's still one of the top Zealot picks imo. You really need a Revolver to pair with it.

solar gorge
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heavy sword is meh

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i don't like it that much anymore

obtuse stirrup
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It's great, but it's ok not to like it.

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It's pretty bad on monstrous specials rounds I think

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at least, it's bad at the monsters part of it

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but it kicks everything from Mutant size downwards' ass super hard

solar gorge
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it's just an asinine weapon with a boring moveset, it's effective regardless of that

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i'd just rather have a crusher

misty raven
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Heavy sword fun

obtuse stirrup
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Heavy Sword makes me feel like Doomguy

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RIP AND TEAR

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I have to try a good Crusher though, gonna check the guide out and maybe make that my next project

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what ranged do you like to pair it with, and what's the main points of the talent build for it for you?

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I guess it's a good weapon for Chorus? I can't imagine getting much use out of Fury or Shroud with it

south folio
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whatever prob works

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one could say that the crusher's cc makes some of chorus redundant

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i personally like fury as I do on mostly everything

solar gorge
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that's my crusher

obtuse stirrup
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I want a build to give me an excuse to go Chorus

solar gorge
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i run chorus with it, with the dmg boost node just for the sake of diversity

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and blazing peity on keystone

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with le crit cdr

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i'd say any talent set up would work fine with it except stealth

fading vale
vocal pulsar
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Fat shark buff/change chorus pls

fading vale
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what part of hsword is a chainsaw

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what if chorus did AOE damage

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or some kind of enemy debuff

obtuse stirrup
fading vale
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🤔

south folio
fading vale
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ok better yet, what if we sang during chorus

vocal pulsar
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Female judge has wonderful singing

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Idk if you've heard the voice line

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"My ~eyes have seen his glor---~~ anyone....?"

obtuse stirrup
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But every Zealot is Fanatic

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Including me

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Because she's just so likeable

distant lark
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Zealot trash

obtuse stirrup
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Faithless slab

vocal pulsar
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Ogryn can't talk down anybody

solar gorge
fading vale
hushed knoll
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So many comfywomfy people here rn

fading vale
south folio
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hi stan

hushed knoll
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Crabs are excluded

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Hi Arco

south folio
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wtf

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i retract my greetings to you

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you shall know the cold

hushed knoll
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Why

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I’m not cold right now

north sedge
hushed knoll
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The fuck

north sedge
sharp zodiac
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Average Victorian

sterile schooner
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i feel like melk's trying to tell me something

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sharp zodiac
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Not sure what tbh

solar gorge
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he wants you to use the special action of weapons more obviously

sterile schooner
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He really needs to be more clear with his messaging

sharp zodiac
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More special attack for the funny hrrbnnggnhgg

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solar gorge
obtuse stirrup
solar gorge
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no

sharp zodiac
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It would only exist to be a bayonet

delicate shadow
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it's definitely not a high-skill build

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it's a good build though yeah

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I cannot fathom how they're managing to pull that off

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unless they're intentionally trying to be at 1 hp at all times

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oh

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yeah lmao

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you want to have at least a wound and a bit left

spare dome
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real men fight on their seventh wound with no death defy

sharp zodiac
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Ogryn moment

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vast shore
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does anybody has a clean audio of the Fanatics line "Blood for the Emperor, skulls for the Golden throne"? I wanna put that on my soundboard

hushed knoll
# north sedge

@lusty turtle we need to make this painting a bannable offense blobhammer

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1800s French clothing triggers me so badly

cloud hornet
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This makes me kinda sad ngl

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fading vale
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maybe they don't know that it's HP loss based through wounds

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and you don't need to corrupt them

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but yeah one of the strengths of marty is it's survivability, and intentionally going to 1 HP kind of negates that outside of HR

hushed knoll
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Laz are we valheiming today

fading vale
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of course

hushed knoll
fading vale
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aren't you at work

hushed knoll
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Yeah

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Sadge

fading vale
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no texting in class

hushed knoll
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I have an off Pennsylvania rn

fading vale
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ah

hushed knoll
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Period

fading vale
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an off Pennsylvania

hushed knoll
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Period

fading vale
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Pennsylvania

hushed knoll
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No

cloud hornet
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Whats it got to do with Pennsylvania?

hushed knoll
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What's it got to do with ur face

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BOOM

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Raleigh

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Roasted

cloud hornet
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Got me there

fading vale
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just pretend to get sick and come play valheim

hushed knoll
cloud hornet
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Long flight tho

hushed knoll
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Long flight?

fading vale
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if they want to learn they will anyways it's fine

cloud hornet
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From Pennsylvania to wherever

hushed knoll
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I can't get the fucking Pillow Pets ™️ jingle out of my head

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It's a pillow

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It's a pet

delicate shadow
hushed knoll
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It's a Pillow Pet! ™️

hushed knoll
delicate shadow
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valheim is the 10th realm

hushed knoll
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Oh

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What realm is Austria in

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Austria

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Australia

cloud hornet
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Pennsaustralia

hushed knoll
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No

delicate shadow
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Austria is in the euro realm

Australia is in the oceania realm

hushed knoll
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Oceania sounds like a bad sports drink

north sedge
fading vale
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what about New Zealand

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
fading vale
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I'm having sushi for breakfast

delicate shadow
north sedge
hushed knoll
fading vale
hushed knoll
fading vale
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why are you taking notes

hushed knoll
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Sushi is not a burekfasuto food

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They are not notes

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He's obviously reading a tablet

fading vale
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tablet, famous for being more green than paper

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I have leftover sushi what do you want from me

hushed knoll
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I'm having slush it with my friends tomorrow

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Sushi

delicate shadow
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slush it

hushed knoll
north sedge
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Slush it

hushed knoll
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Leftover sushi isn't a think

hushed knoll
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Thing

fading vale
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uh you put it in the fridge

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and then eat it 12 hours later

hushed knoll
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But then it's not fresh chan desu

fading vale
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yeah it's not as good but what should I just throw it away

hushed knoll
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Yes

fading vale
hushed knoll
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Why

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Are you

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Taking

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FUCKING

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Bots

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Notes

lusty turtle
fading vale
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oh well you were throwing away food so

delicate shadow
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all good students takes notes

hushed knoll
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SKELLY WTF

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I was a good student and I never did

fading vale
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I figured I'd kill more trees if you want to throw away food

hushed knoll
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Actually I wasn't a good student

hushed knoll
fading vale
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well actually

hushed knoll
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Actually I guess a lot of food comes from Trump

fading vale
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wood is important

hushed knoll
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Text

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Trees

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I fucking hate this

lusty turtle
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stan is a trump supporter wtf

hushed knoll
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Smile ex no

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Skelly

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NO

fading vale
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Smile ex

north sedge
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Smile ex

frank night
lusty turtle
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fucked up

frank night
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stan when he walks into a room and the boys whip out their notepads

violet hornet
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Burekfasuto sounds like a Japanese speaker trying to pronounce breakfast

north sedge
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Not the worst thing stan has done this week

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hushed knoll
delicate shadow
north sedge
hushed knoll
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R/woosh

fading vale
hushed knoll
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That’s false

violet hornet
fading vale
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coal

north sedge
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Also, we know where that wooden spoon has been

fading vale
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really

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
violet hornet
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"no, but yes to that thing you said"

hushed knoll
fading vale
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dude be like, DON'T USE PAPER BUT COAL IS GOATED

hushed knoll
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I didn’t actually really read what you said

violet hornet
hushed knoll
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Balsa wood drones and clean coal shocks to the testes for interrogations

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We are environmentally conscious

fading vale
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find god stan

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lusty turtle
north sedge
hushed knoll
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DOUGH WHAT THE TUCK

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DUCK

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FUCK

hushed knoll
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Killer

lusty turtle
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ye, i kiss trees

north sedge
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Kos drew it not me

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No wait that one was tike

hushed knoll
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Fucking scone Emily coppers

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Doch Emily poppers

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Fucking

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Sock Emily boppers

north sedge
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Lol

hushed knoll
south folio
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what on god's earth

hushed knoll
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Arco don’t look

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Please Arco

south folio
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i'm looking

hushed knoll
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Think about your cones

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Family*

south folio
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...

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i will think about my ice cream cones

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my pine cones

obtuse stirrup
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BDSM spanking with a wooden spoon I think?

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Not sure if it's meant to be on ass or balls

south folio
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true

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they are positioned where the ass is but are visually more akin to balls

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much to think about

steep flame
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Hello chat

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
south folio
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well, do tell

hushed knoll
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I can’t

south folio
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why

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did you sign an NDA

steep flame
hushed knoll
open echo
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suggestions?

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fading vale
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wrath to deathblow elites to maniac

mystic ether
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Yeah those are definitely ball spanks

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I know a flogging when I see it.

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One of them cbt types.

sharp zodiac
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What

open echo
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tf did i join this chat to

mystic ether
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I came in late too.

north sedge
mystic ether
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My discord just synced lmao

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It's a wrap

south folio
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a very nice abstract depiction of another person's thoughts

mystic ether
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Definitely ball flogging

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Trite

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I think it's better that this kind of madness sticks in zealot chat

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Feel like the mods just have a dissociative stint every time they come back to this chat

obtuse stirrup
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Scream all you like, 'cos we're all mad here

mystic ether
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Zealot chat regularly getting into bare knuckle brawls with cell padding

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ANOTHER BATTLE--WON!!

frank night
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look

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just because we frequently shadowbox with stan's phone autocorrect

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does not mean we do not occasionally say something intelligent

obtuse stirrup
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Zealots are canonically permanently drunk, right?

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DRUNK ON FAITH IN THE IMMORTAL GODEMPEROR OF MANKIND and also booze

frank night
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the scottish zealot is canonically hopped up on hooch yes

north sedge
open echo
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the silly

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vocal pulsar
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Best setup for mk12 chaxe is thrust + headtaker

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And carapace + elite damage

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Let's you one hit every enemy without chastise

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Save for bosses

obtuse stirrup
vocal pulsar
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Yes it's my fav chain weapon

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One of my fav weapons in the game overall

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It's highly slept on

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Great boss damage, okay horde clear, will one shot every enemy (if built correctly)

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I use it with momentum keystone

obtuse stirrup
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Perks?

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Oh you said

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Would it work with Chorus? I'm looking for a good excuse to use that ability

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All my Zealot builds I play either need Fury for the everything it gives you or they're the Crackhead With A Knife stealth build

vocal pulsar
sinful widget
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no? it's just ok with chorus

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there are better choices with more cleave

vocal pulsar
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Because chastise makes it way easier to one shot crushers and maulers and shit with chain weapons

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Without chastise you can't (unless you're running crit build with a properly built new evis)

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But mk12 chaxe doesn't need chastise

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To one shot

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That's why it'd be one of the best

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My chaxe

glossy ether
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What are some good perks (not blessings) for a MK2 Eviscerator? Trying to think of what the good dmg bonuses are.

north sedge
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Flak maniac

glossy ether
true mantle
sharp zodiac
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HE SAID AM.

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BRING OUT THE SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS

north sedge
vocal pulsar
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@true mantle perhaps

true mantle
elfin steppe
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Are any updates coming?

hushed knoll
sharp zodiac
south folio
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he's the last person that you should be hoping a fantastic day for

frank night
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arco is outnumbered, outgunned and outsized

sharp zodiac
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The sauce

frank night
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The mint sauce

sharp zodiac
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I'd like some mint

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Throats lil dry

frank night
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water

sharp zodiac
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Not a fan

frank night
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water urself

sharp zodiac
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Nor am I thirsty

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I'm not a plant

frank night
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put liquid in ur body

sharp zodiac
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Yeah lmao ok

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vocal pulsar
vocal pulsar
frank night
sharp zodiac
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Chinese cat when I steal it's catnip

vocal pulsar
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@hushed knoll

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See

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My gun and body armor

frank night
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are you threatening stan now

true mantle
vocal pulsar
sharp zodiac
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I have tuberculosis mittens

frank night
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that was quick

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it was a dry throat three minutes ago

sharp zodiac
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Evolution

hushed knoll
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Gun

frank night
hushed knoll
vocal pulsar
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It's actually small

frank night
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WHA

hushed knoll
frank night
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the gun only goes up to like here

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hushed knoll
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Ah

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So you want the appearance of size

vocal pulsar
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No, that's just the only black holster I have

hushed knoll
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Oh

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What the fuck kind of fun is supposed to go into that

vocal pulsar
frank night
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i assume he does not show the attempted cash truck robber the girth of the weapon before trying to shoot them

hushed knoll
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Gun

vocal pulsar
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I carry these

hushed knoll
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You carry one concealed right?

vocal pulsar
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Yeah

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Back up gun

hushed knoll
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Imagine mankar going Rambo with akimbo guns

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Feel like that’s a good way to waste ammo and not be accurate lol

vocal pulsar
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Yeah, no shootist actually does that lol

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It's just for if my main gun goes down, if my right hand is indisposed, or if my partner's gun goes down

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If I'm guarding a partner at a train station ATM, I can have my hand in my pocket, on my back up gun

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I can be ready, Without freaking people out

hushed knoll
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I mean with two loaded like that don’t you technically have twelve rounds to go

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Ready

vocal pulsar
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It's 6 + 5

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11 rounds

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Hip gun has 6, pocket gun has 5

hushed knoll
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Oh

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I thought they were the same

frank night
#

do u dislike thought of inadvertedly capping urself in the thigh

hushed knoll
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I asked him this last night

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Draw weight prevents it

frank night
#

ooo

vocal pulsar
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With what I'm carrying

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Revolver trigger weight is very heavy

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Hard to impossible to actually accidentally pull the trigger

hushed knoll
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Oh is draw weight different from trigger weight or is draw weight not a thing

vocal pulsar
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Even then, proper trigger discipline prevents that

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Draw weight is for bows

rose flower
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Thoughts on these stats for THammer Marty one shot build?

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fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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For the backstab cdr

rose flower
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twbs?

fleet zealot
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Thy wrath be swift

hushed knoll
vocal pulsar
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No you're not

hushed knoll
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Aw thanks

fleet zealot
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Prevents your attacks/cc in general from being interrupted

vocal pulsar
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@josho and @arco are stupid

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Especially arco

hushed knoll
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Why did their names not appear

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Oh

vocal pulsar
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I chose not to directly @ them

hushed knoll
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Good choice

vocal pulsar
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Because they are nothing to me

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
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Wow that’s rude

frank night
hushed knoll
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MITTINS PLEASE I beg you

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Do not be MITTINS

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Morris

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Motrins

frank night
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Morris it is

hushed knoll
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NOOO

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I hate it hair

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Here

vocal pulsar
hushed knoll
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Do you have like an entire armory

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Mankar you def would have been a gunslinger in the Wild West

frank night
#

how would management react if your guys did shoot an attempted robber with a bow and arrow

vocal pulsar
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I have 3 bows, 6 hand guns, idk 10 rifles/shotguns and 2 or 3 muzzle loaders

vocal pulsar
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Good idea

fleet zealot
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Morris

fleet zealot
frank night
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I mean a ballista 'arrow' is pretty hard to stitch up

north sedge
muted vale
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can u 1shot monstrosities without martyrdom build?

frank night
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but like way way back when they managed to remove an arrow from some prince's face and he survived

hushed knoll
#

I mean mankar would have prob gotten chimera first in the west

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Cholera

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Sorry mankar

hushed knoll
frank night
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would it be better or worse in the ER for a guy shot with the snub nose or a guy shot with an arrow

neat igloo
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bullets fragment and are made of neurotoxin

north sedge
#

chimera

neat igloo
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so i'm guessing the snub nose

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for worse

lusty turtle
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you can't just wish that on people stan thats fucked up

sharp zodiac
frank night
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true

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i agree

hasty bone
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Why would mankar get cholera first

vocal pulsar
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Yeah wtf

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I have a strong immune system

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Fuck you

sharp zodiac
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Arthur Morgan ahh immune system

vocal pulsar
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I am told I look like Arthur

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But my immune system is better

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I am TB proof

sharp zodiac
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But are you Luna disease proof

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Let's find out

frank night
north sedge
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what about chimera though

lusty turtle
vocal pulsar
steep flame
sharp zodiac
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First you'll have an accent change

north sedge
#

you turn into that french cat

vocal pulsar
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I'll never turn full fr*nch

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Never

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I'd sooner die

frank night
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soon you will be stood with cheesy chips getting strafed by a bat or possibly bird

copper hawk
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@frank night

frank night
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send cica to the fucking sandbox

copper hawk
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@frank night @frank night @frank night

hushed knoll
frosty herald
north sedge
ripe quest
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what in gods name

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north sedge
south folio
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OwO

lusty turtle
obtuse stirrup
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Every day we stray further from the Light of The Emperor

north sedge
ripe quest
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like does it have the scattershot thing but with a different weapon?

sterile stone
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@median steeple The days are nearing

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It is almost time

ripe quest
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arco the lasguns arco

north sedge
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recon superiority

frank night
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remembering the time yamato made his final stand against guys who fuck the druid in bg3

woeful oyster
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Finally, I am free of these burdens

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dawn wharf
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Oh no guys, it's over I didn't list knife as #1 😔

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I honestly knew damn well this was going to happen, but 50mins until the first "But knife" comment was a lil jarring

obtuse stirrup
dawn wharf
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https://youtu.be/kA5mI221LxA
Latest Top 5 Melee viyda I posted today

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Top 5 Melee Weapons for Zealots | Warhammer 40,000: Darktide Guide

The Zealot is the penultimate melee class in Darktide. Sure, everyone does Melee, and it's not listed as your Primary Weapon for nothing...

But there's just something special about the Zealot's propensity to hurl themselves into the fray and their ability to not just survive but THRIVE in that setting makes them earn that distinction for me, al...

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north sedge
copper hawk
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I hate the guy who uploaded this yt bidei !!

obtuse stirrup
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And they think the Mk. VI I'd the premium one for Zealot?

copper hawk
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Hai guy who uploaded this yt bideo :3c

obtuse stirrup
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*is

copper hawk
obtuse stirrup
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They must be jonkling.

dawn wharf
fleet zealot
woeful oyster
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Anybody that would disagree that the crusher is #1 is wild as fuck

dawn wharf
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I TRIED MY BEST TO SELL IT T.T

fleet zealot
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i think you could make a comparision vs rashad on crusher

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but yea, crusher rank 1 is viable pick

dawn wharf
obtuse stirrup
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I cannot get on with Rashad since the Bromentum change

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and I don't know why.

dawn wharf
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Also huge credit to the pinned Crusher guide for opening my eyes

obtuse stirrup
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Maybe because I'm using it on Veteran without right keystone

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which doesn't hit breakpoints easily

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New Bromentum is so binary, I hate hate hate it

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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awful design

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"Get a weapon that one-shots one thing and it'll one-shot lots of things. Get a weapon that doesn't one-shot things and it'll at best hit 2."

fleet zealot
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I feel chswords and evi are pretty close lately but i'm not an expert

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what

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oh i see

obtuse stirrup
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old variant was much more weapon-roll agnostic

fleet zealot
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well, it's a better design than what it used to be

dawn wharf
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It's definitely up there for sure. But I also just love evis tbf

fleet zealot
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where it was either best in slot only viable blessing you needed

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or the few weapons it sucked ass on

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like heavysword, or shield

obtuse stirrup
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new one needs much more care to build to make it good, but once it is it's even better than the old one

north sedge
#

chsword has absurd horde clear, better than evisc

ember yew
#

mk13 annihilate hordes

woeful oyster
ripe quest
# dawn wharf https://youtu.be/kA5mI221LxA Latest Top 5 Melee viyda I posted today

Wanted to point out a few things with the Chainswords. Heavies (tech HHLH but it's marginal) on the Mk IV will pull better crowd damage numbers, especially against bruisers. The overhead lights have the benefit of basically being better heavies for single target damage, so lights to pick out certain enemies in mixed hordes is solid. On the Mk XIIIg it's actually a really solid choice to use Wrath instead of SS, the lights do not have enough cleave to proc SS against bruisers so you'd need to chain into H3 to proc it. If you're just wanting to spam lights against crowds the XIIIg will be better, though in some cases the XIIIg uses LLLH to utilize the H3.

ember yew
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13 in action

fleet zealot
north sedge
fleet zealot
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besides their push attack

woeful oyster
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and the special is different

fleet zealot
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rashad has finesse which is more weakspot damage and attack speed, while cleave targets on antax is functionally useless

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rashad is objectively better at horde clear

ripe quest
south folio
woeful oyster
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But the heavies on the Rashad are faster than antax

south folio
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i'm not deranged enough to have explored these options

dawn wharf
fleet zealot
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the onyl reason people use antax is that the difference even in auric doesn't especially matter

median steeple
exotic raft
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Man, after running zealot for so long and switching to other classes, seeing zealots that make no sense is just so irritating

ripe quest
# south folio no idea

something something deadly accurate + EP being nutty. Also I think Bloodthirsty transfers to assail

median steeple
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What

ripe quest
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Like if you proc it you get 5 seconds of crits with assail

woeful oyster
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I have both the rashad and antax with bromentum and from extensive use, the antax feels way better in the hoard clear than the Rashad does. Objectively speaking.

exotic raft
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Is there some sort of meta gun zealot class that I am not aware of or is the dude never using his melee and sprinting to every single piece of ammo to grab it before his team can out of his mind

ember yew
ripe quest
north sedge
exotic raft
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Back to playing melee, I do not want to deal with that

ripe quest
south folio
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it feels objectively better

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that's just how it be

exotic portal
exotic raft
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Wasn't that ages ago

ember yew
#

we are open beta now

fleet zealot
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that's your subjective opinion

south folio
exotic portal
ripe quest
#

wait did he just say "this one feels better objectively speaking"

woeful oyster
#

objectively subjective, Yes KEKW_ogryn

ripe quest
ember yew
fleet zealot
south folio
#

oh wait wtf

fleet zealot
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please save me

south folio
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i think assail interacts with bloodthirsty but not in a good way

exotic portal
#

part 3 traitor curse we enter with power spears?

obtuse stirrup
dawn wharf
fleet zealot
#

rashad is objectively always gonna have the edge on antax in any and all scenarious unless you are constantly weaving push attack on both, which hurts rashads output

south folio
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lmao, throwing a crit shard consumes a charge of bloodthirsty, but it won't benefit from bloodthirsty

ripe quest
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It's always gonna be a case of 'as long as BM exists as it is rn Rashad will perform the best'

north sedge
#

objectively speaking, antax gives better vibes

woeful oyster
fleet zealot
#

like you are allowed to play antax

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it's like, 5% at most loss

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but your preference doesn't mean anything

ember yew
# dawn wharf Thanks <:blahaj_ogryn:1063230706974724167> Main reason I tried to "skip" the oth...

People post garbage builds with DClaw sword Unyelding/Carapace and MK3 autopistol and name it "META ZILLOT CLICK HERE", then some random idiot like it and train goes on and then you see people running these "builds" in auric/ms missions. It's nice to see something good for once.
Aside from not deep diving into blessing/perks or breakpoints (which will take much more time for research/etcetc) it's a good vid.

obtuse stirrup
exotic portal
fleet zealot
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but ti is a top weapon lsit, not a build list

south folio
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why do ranged crits consume a bloodthirsty charge

fleet zealot
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so not really necessary for a deepdive

north sedge
#

i cant believe bleed knife didnt make the list, shame

ember yew
#

right

dawn wharf
north sedge
ripe quest
exotic portal
dawn wharf
fleet zealot
#

lacerate flesh tearer

ember yew
mossy scarab
#

Lacerate flesh tearer is the only meta

ember yew
#

but seems like he's sleeping now

exotic portal
north sedge
dawn wharf
#

THERE IT IS!

ripe quest
mossy scarab
exotic portal
north sedge
dawn wharf
ember yew
obtuse stirrup
#

and it's a totally unique playstyle

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and that's enough for it to have a place :)

exotic portal
# north sedge

crowd control is OK, but.. we pay piles of corpses with hay-maker

copper hawk
#

Pile of corpse

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Just 1

obtuse stirrup
#

Crit knife with stealth and kantrael shotgun just feels crazy

copper hawk
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Cuz u go turn based mode against hordez

dawn wharf
#

They called my Trench Rat: Manstopper Kant the most generic vet build. A strange sentiment considering how little I see them run

copper hawk
#

Hate knigez..

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Knifez*

north sedge
copper hawk
#

Im a combat blade h8r..

obtuse stirrup
#

The only reason why I use the knife on the horde is to get my stealth back faster

exotic portal
obtuse stirrup
#

and light attack spam isn't totally awful

mossy scarab
exotic portal
copper hawk
#

The veteran watchin the entire fighting line evaporate when the combat blade zeal pops stealth n runs ahead 4 some rsn

obtuse stirrup
#

you might say, "isn't it easier to just use a revolver"

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and it is

copper hawk
#

U aint built 4 this hive worl blud..

obtuse stirrup
#

but on the other hand

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steb steb steb

exotic portal
mossy scarab
#

I mean. I use a revolver.

exotic portal
#

percents count

mossy scarab
#

I haven't actually tried the new knife yet. It could be better.

ripe quest
# dawn wharf So far no nasty bits yet, other than one with some more fair points. But I'm wai...

Oh that reminds me, small nitpick but it'll give you some nice results with Crusher. Skullcrusher is really potent, especially if you prime it with a push attack or a special attack. You only get the damage though while the enemy is in the staggered animation. During the video I saw you were playing defensive during the mock horde clip, you were mostly hitting fresh fodder instead of the ones on the floor. Try out being super aggressive with it, SoC and TWBS helps a ton if you aren't comfy with the weapon just yet.

copper hawk
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Is the revolver good against carapace

north sedge
exotic portal
#

Make chester proud

copper hawk
#

We found him

mossy scarab
copper hawk
#

We found Bleeds McGee

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Now i understand the meme

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Astaghfirullah

dawn wharf
north sedge
exotic portal
ripe quest
exotic portal
#

mk iv

copper hawk
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tank u

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i need somethin 2 pair w my dclaw

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for crushers

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and i don't wanna use the bolter

ripe quest
#

Flamer smil

mossy scarab
#

Fury isn't a fair comparison I downed 6 crushers in one mag with a bolter using fury once

copper hawk
#

but i hate sh00terz

copper hawk
#

the ghost of him lives on

#

here

exotic portal
#

4x zealots running shredder in an auric damn high/shook troop

copper hawk
#

The Ghost of Knifeyv

exotic portal
#

please

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Main offensive..

north sedge
ripe quest
dawn wharf
obtuse stirrup
#

Fury + any ranged kills crushers tbf

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you can do an autogun and it'll work

ripe quest
#

mhm

mossy scarab
obtuse stirrup
#

Fury's just really, really strong

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
#

chorus stole its thunder but I think Fury's better most of the time

exotic portal
ripe quest
#

Boltgun, and HH (Flamer too but I wouldn't 1:1 it with a Revolver) do it best is what I'm trying to say.

exotic portal
#

More like the old gods weren't zealot?

mossy scarab
#

If you're killing everything in just a few shots. Everything outpaces revolver. I use revolver for swap speed and accuracy, not its power.

exotic portal
#

Preacher.🙌

north sedge
# dawn wharf what happened? 👀

someone got some very mild critcism for their lacerate knife and like a month later made a spite solo video about it and named everyone they were angry at from here

south folio
#

don't come to zealot chat tomorrow

exotic portal
mossy scarab
north sedge
exotic portal
#

2 min running a solo heresy?

ripe quest
#

Actually somewhat reminds me, I still do not understand the mentality of Exe Stance on Vet. It's often stated to be worse than VoC or even Stealth when those are just like, entirely different utilities.

exotic portal
#

i run aurics damn in 9 mins or so solo.

dawn wharf
ripe quest
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It gives you like, TWBS 2.0 + increased accuracy buffs on top of a damage boost. Even highlights the fuel for your damage boost for you.

south folio
#

the killer for it to me is that it drops on swapping to melee

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i'd prob occasionally run it if it didn't do that

exotic portal
south folio
#

no i have nike

exotic portal
ripe quest
mossy scarab
exotic portal
#

Steam proof?

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Twins first try?

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hard mode?

mossy scarab
#

I dont need proof. I never lie.

exotic portal
south folio
#

it's also a question of "will +25% ranged damage put me past any breakpoints"
i'd definitely run it on the columnus IAG and whatnot but i'd have to do testing on other weapons and whatnot

exotic portal
mossy scarab
#

Also I soloed 4 sets of twins on hard with my eyes closed , walking uphill both ways through the snow

south folio
#

the DPS of players is just so much right now that i consider defensive stuff more important

exotic portal
obtuse stirrup
#

I like when you have veterans using the "marks for whole team" thing when I'm on my psyker

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it's like "yay, I see all the assholes I need to brain rupture"

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blap blap blap blap

south folio
#

i got my 5 consecutive BB elite kill penance with the help of a pub vet who had highlight enemies on ult

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gr8 time

exotic portal
#

2 golden skulls

spare dome
south folio
#

melee maelstrom is on the menu bois

spare dome
#

ugh fucken starbucks man

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now we have this dumb olive oil drink in canada

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and i go home smelling of it

exotic portal
#

For the emporer?

#

That's a loss for the headsman, i guess.

wooden river
#

allows for far safer (read: dumber) plays, etc.

ripe quest
wooden river
#

Yeah it's just that the utility of VoC is vastly more useful

#

Any weapon and class can snipe specials/elites

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VoC makes playing aggressively far safer and just makes the game easier overall

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And you can use the overtoughness to take a few scratches from a poxwalker to snipe an incoming special

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just one of the many utilities of VoC

#

Exe is harder to use without much reward for most weapons

#

For the Helbores, Exe gets you one (1) new breakpoint: oneshotting crushers with the Mk3

ember yew
light holly
#

Well don't forget you can also tank pox buster with voc

wooden river
#

Yeah it actually regens your overtoughness lol

light holly
#

😌

wooden river
#

Burster, Sniper, Overheads

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Exe simply offers very little in exchange for not taking VoC

light holly
#

Yeah

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And its a small window

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And its punishing

wooden river
#

It's an odd case of where the utility of one choice (VoC) vastly outweighs the utility of another choice (Exe)

light holly
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To keep it up

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Exe has been agreed on that it's not great

wooden river
#

and that's just because VoC is overtooled

light holly
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Lord forbid you fight a boss and woops

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You only get 5 seconds of damage

wooden river
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it simply does too much for one button, on such a short cooldown

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It's comparing apples and oranges, except the apple is nice and crisp and juicy and tasty while the orange has been sitting out in the sun all day and also it's moldy on one side

ripe quest
wooden river
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The damage buff from Exe just isn't needed most of the time

ripe quest
#

Like on Zealot you wouldn't tell someone to drop Fury or Shroudfield just because Chorus has busted utility

wooden river
#

Part of that is also because Vet's best guns (Plasma, Revolver) don't need the damage buff

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You have to get into the nitty gritty here to understand why Exe simply isn't that helpful

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and like smudgels said, it takes a lot more work to keep it active

ember yew
#

and you said you cant swap on melee either

obtuse stirrup
wooden river
#

the benefits don't matter that much when you consider how annoying it is to keep the ult up

ember yew
#

at least that should be changed

obtuse stirrup
#

It's everything a Zealot wants

#

Execution Stance is very... uneven.

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It does one thing, not particularly well.

ripe quest
wooden river
#

VoC is so easy to use and offers so much benefit that it outweighs any benefit Exe might bring

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And again, the best Veteran weapons don't even need Exe

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it doesn't give them any new breakpoints, so what should be the best part of Exe's utility (more damage) means nothing

royal vortex
#

the thing is a lot of people are gonna look at one thing overshadowing another purely from the perspective of "how easy is it to use to win games"

wooden river
#

At best, Exe is a quickswap button with enhanced zoom

royal vortex
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and for a lot of ppl running shout plasma ciag w/e is the easiest way to win games because its the faceroll setup

frank night
ripe quest
wooden river
#

Yeah but think about those buffs

ripe quest
#

TWBS 2.0

royal vortex
#

exe stance is really good particular in groups where ppl aren't super aware

ember yew
wooden river
#

How much are they helping you win the match compared to VoC

royal vortex
#

90% of people who are evaluating exe stance don't know about any of the unlisted stuff

wooden river
#

and it'll help you snipe targets better too

ember yew
#

im always chilling if plasma vet is not braindead

royal vortex
wooden river
#

Anyway the point is that VoC is grossly overtooled

royal vortex
#

a zealot with a bolter is doing better in terms of dps vs a crusher pack than plasma ever will

wooden river
#

and it turns an apples-to-orange discussion into "well the apple is a lot easier to eat and also it tastes way better"

woeful oyster
#

Tbf, if the exec stance marksman is taking out all the shooters, I could live fine without the buffs from voc

ember yew
#

that's true, but vet can just stay 10km away and still do his thing

royal vortex
#

it's really potent against anything that isn't a boss or ogryn

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it's good against bulwarks/reapers but im fairly certain a bolter also keeps pace

wooden river
ripe quest
royal vortex
wooden river
#

that's what VoC stagger is for

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and the overtoughness

royal vortex
#

but there's a lot of scenarios where an experienced guy under melee pressure can keep shooting if you haven't put yourself in a stupid spot

woeful oyster
wooden river
#

A strong player will know how to aim at priority targets while sliding/dodging

frank night
#

I rate exe stance low because there is always some goblin creature shouting cryonic rod trying to stop me extending it

wooden river
#

or will have good positioning to avoid getting into those situations in the first place

#

but again

royal vortex
#

shout just makes it a lot easier if you don't quite have the experience to pull it off because you can just hit a button and not have to deal with the bad guys for a couple seconds

ripe quest
royal vortex
wooden river
#

Just shout and make the job easier for yourself

royal vortex