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you did
he has already admitted he often smells burnt toast
It's like seeing a muffin on the side of the road and deciding to eat it
Someone put it there
dude is a stroke machine
But they didn't force it on you
why are you leaving muffins on the side of the road
Please don't say that
Idk josho maybe it fell out the window
keep him away from a golf course
do you often throw food out of windows?
No
What? Are you not a stroke machine?
But somebody might have their muffin get blown out of their hands by a gust of wind or maybe they were eating a muffin and they flailed when a bee flew in
are you often assaulted by bees
a big one
this is unbelievable i left all my fresh muffins to air on the windowsil and some asshole bees flew by and threw them all into the street
No
I'm not saying the bees took the muffin
society 😔
Stan is owned by Big Bee
This is classic Austrian painter behavior by Josho
Hm
Josho please
why are you 2 having a war criminal off
stan: -speaks-
everyone else: hohoho big mistake buddy
I mean
retract ur false accusation
Classic art school dropout behavior
according to what you, stan, said 8 months ago...
Stan does make a lot of mistakes to be fair
Dano wtf
lol
Ladies and femboys, exhibit a
this is so sad
secretary slide side, coming to theaters this summer
what did you do to santa
i would like my atifopithaaasants thank you
antidepheasants
Those dang antifa phesants
i am collecting a new title
we've lost josho
i hope stan does not immediately get mad and misspell my name
forcing me to change it
Oh no josho has become dephreshed
you must resist his branding
This has no business being this funny
buzz blast
i will try
did you cast a hex
stan irl
dark art wizard spell
Just practicing Stanomancy
stan's muffins be like
Dan out here trying to summon Eldrich beings
Do you have the one with happy wheels music?
stan is canonically a level 12 warlock
where are his other 8 levels in
Sorcery
@south folio I'm about to scare a bunch of pubbers by running Smite EP.
the dm does not find high level dnd that fun so unfortunately stan is stuck at level 12
the last thing we want is him getting access to simulacrum
oh fuck
Cloning stan
no but I have this here you go
why would you do this to yourself
years ago
I mean I'm also running chainsword + blazing trauma so it'll probs be fine
Learn something new everyday
I'll only spam smite 90% of the match
soloing bosses with smite
don't talk to me exhale race
zap
ball taser
sick bastard
gandalf
is this the toe zone?
@south folio dw this guy will carry
the derpy build
don't worry he knows what he's doing
arco mobilising his roblox guardsmen
paid 5 robux/hour
an army of blocky children
I enjoyed it last last I used it
It’s like
Throwing a water balloon at someone’s face
When they aren’t expecting it
how many water balloons have u thrown that turned the target into a fountain of blood and pulverised organs
You’re sounding like a fed asking all these questions
I can’t remember
my lawyer said zero
snuggy
its the perfect area to just chill
hishock u get a bunch of angry pissbabies who get dogged once and think the game is over and leave
ive had ppl im in the process of fkin getting up leave the game
LIKE IM RIGHT THERE
happened to us yesterday
a psyker got netted and I was running to get em just for him to be taken by the void
missin out on dockets SMH
hi int just feels better than the base damnation stuff. Way more engaging feeling but not really much more difficult.
very pog
ive played exactly 1 reg damnation match because i wanted to get another hab dreyko done
and man
i cant believe ppl play it
hi5 is the minimum i can tolerate
the pain of quickplay spam is being forced to play normal damn
i've had harder heresy games
Only mistaken is gamble pubbies skill play
Scavenger hunt make me sleeping
even like hi int is pretty uneventful
h
well that's mildly disappointing
rip
sometimes people talk about how they cant pass damn/its just too hard for them so i feel bad for saying this kind of thing but also
your right lol
Well it depends mostly on the modifier
i was talking just base damn
yeah hi int feels like
pretty similar to me
which ig is what happens when you only play histg so having quite literally half the real threats at one time will feel much less eventful
normal damn/hi int has a special cap of 8 at a time and hishock has a cap of 16 which certainly plays into it
yeah thats what i meant by this
and elites are like
pretty w/e
unless you get stagger memed
i wonder if you can make it more engaging without necessarily changing the difficulty of it
making elites more like
ig not threatening but
you can deal with them the same way you deal with anything else
although i guess it depends on what makes it interesting for you
auric is 50% tension which means the tension meter can go twice as high before the game stops saying fuck you
hmm yeah just constant combat and waves
even just enemies trickling is nice cuz you can do something while you're walking your way forward
which is kinda just more fundamentally engaging
You clearly ain't playing enough Auric Maelstrom then
maelstrom should have an infinite wave modifier and be active in all malestrom types
male strom
i really loved the days of when some maps occasionally had groaners/poxwalkers infinitely spawning
so tragic
could never be my fault
at least in my case I am perpetually out of position because of my greed
yeah when i see stuff i wanna kill it
at least you usually dont actually get caught out of position
you just get held up
if you get trapped or go down then its awkward lol
coping and seething as i lay down on the ground
probably hit the chat with: ADSKJFSDFHSFJSJFLSDF
scream hard enough and the void will reply
ive been trying for years
it bothers me that zealot has dance of death
you must put his soul to rest
i want to be a close range gun slaughterer machine on veteran
but its zealot that gets the awesome hipfire
Wipe your ass stinky
which i get sort of delineates their roles or whatever
but man
anyway veteran sucks
no
Veteran sucks
veteran is op
Inshallah
and also veteran sucks
psword sucks now
vet has 2 of the best keystones in the game
weapon specialist is so damn nice
focus target being one of the worst
im joking 😭
shut ur mouth
fuck u
free +15% melee attack speed for killing an enemy with range
focus target is conceptually awful
imagine if momentum got full stacks off a single kill
oh god the virus is spreading
veteran gang
it pretends to be something that requires a different playstyle but u just hit the tag key and u get free stats
marksman's focus is super cool they just missed the mark in execution somewhat
weapon specialist gang (except i run revolver and get brainrot)
weapon specialist needs its upgrade nodes tuned
but is super cool for enforcing a theme
i like wep specialist/MF
vet unironically has the most class distinction between playstyles
ive never tried focus target
i would use focus target in some builds
Focus target is very nice for Deadshot builds with the one that gives you stamina back
but my teammates would also benefit
although i cant use deadshot
marksman needs to turn the awful toughness replenishment node into like 1 bar of stam back on headshot kill
😔 marksman having no stamina stuff despite being in the same branch as deadshot
Don't need stamina when you can't move 😔
make enemy bodie EXPLOD on headshot dealing damage and making fart noise
its so sad
TRUE
live
The vet tree is better than what it was but it's never been near perfect.
oh the design is awful, the contents are cracked
yeah i overall like it but damn there are some sore spots
keystones being "build defining" but most of them being "what kind of flat stat buff do you want" is very unfortunate
just put unwavering focus back in and vets will no longer care about build quality
OwO
the vet and zealot trees are the only ones i like using in terms of build making
because you don't have really obtuse arbitrary talent restrictions
frantic attempt to appear non-racist
yeah josho be honest you love the ogryn tree
dude i love my 2 builds
i would completely demolish the ogryn tree and replace it with a parking lot.
wtf
psyker's genuinely has almost no depth
i am on annual leave until monday
i would replace it with an apartment building
time for a drinkie poo
it is so shallow
if psyker didnt have DD/Assail/Scriers and weapons i like i probably wouldnt play them
like
anything aside from that is really bland or samey to me
blazing trauma ig
On Zealot and Ogryn it really feels like "What main abilities do I want and what landmark talents can I grab", with Psyker it's a "There's no way I've only spent 30 points I have so many things", and Vet is the "The main idea of my build takes 26 points
"
all of the trees to some extent have "must have" talents
but ogryn gets them basically as fkin pathing nodes
like batter
tactical awareness owo
EP is like fundamentally the most boring thing ever
or heavyweight
vet needs iron will just deleted and u need to distribute survivability more evenly
The power of having tax nodes be good nodes.
tactical awareness should be publically executed
iron will with 273 toughness 😎
i was really sad when i couldnt take rock and soften em up
i'm pretty sure I can take two bruiser hits before going down 75% toughness
i hate rocks
yeah ironwill is cracked
they are just worse throwing knives
yuuuuup
I like the ironhelm cleave idea for the rocks
where they cleave non-elites and specials
the top portion of the middle branch is so fucking stacked
precision strikes and reciprocity both being 2 point dips from the middle
some real bowling ball stuff when you throw a rock at a horde
yeah precision is another i usually take
they power crept the vet tree instead of fixing the underlying talent bloat issue
which always makes my tree look ugly af
it def has bloat theres some stuff that i have to take where im like
i will not notice i have this
solution: make every talent that gives a passive buff proc it on dodge
problem solved
so true
I am a bit worried with Fatshark having a 'no nerfs' mentality according to crab
incoming more power creep then
there are some things that absolutely need to be nerfed regardless of what the community thinks of fatshark
yeah the top end is
me line up 4 maulers with shovel
not what we should have
elite patrol gone 🙂
by 2027, we'll have non-boss HP in the 5 digits
.
nor should it be what stuff is brought up to
shut up cica
borderlands game where by level 30 you hit for 58k damage with a pistol
and the good stuff is like
it is the year 40,000
a folding shovel still hits harder than a lightning hammer
or, at least, putting some apm into stuff nets you roughly the same results as the braindead stuff
Just like real life
assail now does 1/10th less damage but you have 30 shards
it's like, why put in the effort
i dont want it
oh no now they aren't BP reliant 
i would shatter the kneecaps of so many things
oh god
if i could
BB casts 20000% faster but deals 20000% less damage
i have an amount of faith in fatshark
to not completely ruin balance
they have fixed the problem of the majority of weapons underperforming
i have ~60 years left in my life so i'm sure i'll see good things happen in my lifespan
which inevitably is going to result in them fucking the numbers up on the other end
They should buff cdr next
and the talent trees thing did not help
they are just kinda forced into nerfs at this point it feels like cause as weve discussed they cant make histg 2
the game would explode
and health buffs are like
lmao
it wouldnt even be fun
pretty meh
it would be really funny if they just said "fuck it" and added a sixth difficulty
It is kinda funny that the powercreep is outpacing the engine
ikr
we just need modded darktide so u can play dwons cata 3
and yeah more disabler spam would get annoying
like oh man i wonder what this run will end to
darktide mod that starts up vt2
special cap gets bumped up to 100
and 50 trappers are allowed to be alive at once
Oh also that reminds me for the past like week I cannot see the scab captain's animations if they're wielding a sword.
very cool
same
how in the fuck
very cool indeed when they start dealing psychic attacks on you
They got that minecraft kill aura
wonder thats the correlation is between you 2
no
Pixar didn't have the technology to render the captain back in the 90s unfortunately
i can see it perfectly fine
although i havent played twins since we did it
arcotash cannot render objects moving faster than walking speed
It doesn't affect the twins last I saw
sometimes the animations play properly and sometimes they're just in their standing/walking pose
only scab captains
and then i get psychically attacked out of nowhere because the animation for their 4-hit combo isn't playing
i have guided many to the funny insignia
imagine if the powermaul captain got the zealot crusher moveset
players getting ragdolled
imagine if the zealot crusher got the powermaul's moveset
ground slam?
What if you guys upped your graphics from "Lawnmower Man" to "Lawnmower Man 2"
huge
ever seen chernobyl
I have not
I'll up it from N/A to N/A it should work
the assassin boss gets the revolver/crusher and quickswaps to the revolver to snipe you midair whenever you get knocked back
if ur wearing an armored helmet he does a charged push attack and one shots you
you just get ULTRAKILL'd by the assassination captain and they heal off of the sick combo they did off the local psyker
Then it makes a reddit post about how you should just l1 special spam
Ive been gone 10 seconds what happened
stans gone
you're right, they should add grappling hooks to darktide
lmao
Stan's entered the toe zone
psychic attack
they really could make the bosses more mobile
I really do not like that charging sweep that the sword captain does
so damn telegraphed
did I miss something in the most recent update? Every mutant I went to dodge in my last mission seemed to stagger/stun it
Give all of em original cspawn movement
I don't think it was very recent but they do now wait a second before trying to grab you again if they miss.
They even have an animation when they hit a wall
i miss when they just slid off walls
yeah, the wall hitting animation seems to be what's happening when I dodge
but no walls are around me.
The crazy corner u turn
Mutants used to be cracked
yeah they kinda bounce off it it looks very good
Then they nerfed them and they like physically couldnt grab you
remember when you had to avoid being near any corners on geometry when a mutant spawned
or else a mutant would just magnetize to you
😔
i miss tracking maulers
bring back janktide
they still do it on some spots
Remember when mutants just did squats if you were on stairs
imagine if manstopper agri fired a projectile and u could swap to a flesh tearer knife to apply bleed
stop cooking
u cant remove me from this kitchen
Its already burnt
projectile weapons are so goofy lmao
GG on Ogryn has some stuff too
if only man-stopper was on Ogryn so we could get unlimited cleave rocks
Manstopper kickback
u can apply soulblaze from blazing spirit on assail darts
mhm
It would be cool if it had a purpose
assail has just about the same interactions as the throwing knives but you need to pull out the weapon after throwing the dart
its time to write the real zealot guide that is full of misinformation
if only we had insane interactions that manstopper and knives do
priority number 1 is telling people that flesh tearer lacerate increases the bleed cap to 32 stacks
did someone say this
Almost definitely
no
Nvm
bitch
when are you writing up the infinite ammo ogryn build
when you get a cat

Josho posted that clip and then nearly left the server
should've had good internet

Wait what happened
(i am also curious)
No flesh tearer laceraters don't put numbers on things, they operate on vibes only
you talking about the ogryn desync ammo thing?
ammo counts bug out on rippers if u have bad ping super hard
and ppl thought i was regenerating ammo
I vaguely remember seeing that and the discussions that proc'd from it
hs7's special is surprisingly good at proccing deathblow on trash
iirc all three of the specials are the same
I know for sure that they look the exact same and have the same timings
holy shit dude
can't trust anything after the duelling sword mk2 vs mk4
the problem is it has like no cleave
iirc back when I was benchmarking the Hswords H1 SA often had the highest damage for the benchmark
u could probs do h1 special repeat on bruisers if u really wanted to
but the special has no/dogshit cleave
I think on the IX it's just like crazy
(on the 7)
u can one-shot all trash enemies with disdain/sustained assault/headtaker
lmao
this is fucked up
bad for fodder and bruisers but with elite crowds
alright
what the
is this about using brumo to use the special for trash clear
i am going to lock myself in the psykh for a week
you can one shot any non-elite with a heavy sword special and the right setup
If you have the SA bc timing down it's actually not that different to a Caxe light spam
aw
u cant use grievous wounds to stagger a rager out of their attack combo with a heavy
sadness
I do spam h1 and special with hsword 7
The special cleave is ass but the damage is good
Mister josho I have a question
what
Can you buy more crushers?
No.
im going to get 100k plasteel again and then write the Real Official Zealot Guide
still not quite fond of you
hi manky
god, what happens first I finish this guide or I enlist into the military
A race against time 
enlist
u can just call me josho
r u gonna enlist
what r u gonna enlist into
what branch

(there is only 1 right answer)
Praise the lord
air force
woe upon ye..
It's the airforce
based
meowropean..
BOOOOOOOOOOOO chari force BOOOOOOOO
i bewieve in u..
what r u gonna do in the air force..
my best
i'll join the air force in my country soon aswell
strength to you
nah I have a family member who's 20 years into air force, they said their squad was low on people and that I probs can get into it. I don't quite remember what it was called but it sounded like they were a bunch of managers lmao

my whole family on my father's side was in the air force
God I love seeing dragons dogma 2 gameplay
so i was just soloing maelstrom for like 10minutes trying to revive my team, but in the end i couldnt get past the 3 bulwarks in the narrow corridors. only bolt can handle them right?
Any weapon can, they're mostly just there to be annoying
yeah i mean thru the shield
im good with the combat axe but one was always pushing me + all the specials
They only do the push if you're blocking, bait them into attacking you and sidestep/attack
good info
was just bad situation with tons of maulers and the corridors
but the only ranged weapon who can just shoot them is the bolter
Yea kant shotgun fire shot goes straight through
i dont think thats quite right
im pretty sure its based on proximity
if youre literally hugging the shield theyll do the bash
u can push them out of doing the bash once
but theyll wind it up again if u dont move and u cant counter it
impossible to get the right distance with maulers in front
i mean the glitching
they should bodyblock themself
yeah, since it always insta breaks stamina
hard asf
For Mercy Killer, it says enemies with Bleed Stacks stack. Is that multiple stacks of +60% weakpoint damage or is that stacks up to 60% weakpoint damage?
If an enemy is bleeding and you hit them, you get +60% weakspot damage against them.
Oh I'm a fool lol
(Enemies with Bleed Stacks) in my head sounded like you get the damage per bleedy bit
But I knew something else was afoot lol
Probs would be niche boss only.
Yeah the knife already is killing most elites in a few hits with Uncanny/Precog. How much more do we need lol
true
spend a hot minute applying bleed stacks with lacerate and then go in for the big one at the end, of course
that's optimal gaming
prime them for condition overload
moments before death
Which is the better horde clear chain axe
Mk IV
I LOVE PUSHES THAT DONT HAPPEN
YES I WANTED TO CONTINUE HOLDING MY BLOCK UP IN THE FACE OF THAT POXBURSTER
put up block
press to push
push no happen
burster takes out half my health
You sure it isnt a keyboard issue?
none of those keybinds are related to my keyboard
nah can confirm it happens on PC frequently
erm keyboard issue
even with a gamepad
Huh
too much gunk (coom) in your keyboard
Xboxers stay winning
it started happening around patch 14
on which xbox :eyebrow:
Fridgebox
Xbox360
I get a smooth constant 60 fps
Too many times have I run around and then try to push a pox buster
Unless ogryn tosses a box
Only for literally nothing to happen
had stamina
plus stamina regen makes it to where i can always push a burster regardless when i have 0 stamina
Royal Air Force?
ive seen it plenty
should record it 
Do all levels of brutal momentum have the same "cleave" and it's just the damage multiplier that is different?
Yep
so i just sat there in a horde holding my block until stam was broken and lost huge chunk of my health
And the difference is inconsequential
Niiice. Grabbed an item from the shop that has +25 maniac and BM2 to just be upgraded, so it's guaranteed to be good. Thanks!
But zealot chat said stam regen was bad!!!!! Oh wait, there's a game outside the psykhanium.
we're going down down in an earlier round
i know you certainly have seen me make full use of it lmao
is there an active abiltity that can increase ranged damage. not sure if charge or shroud have any weird interactions with it so rn im thinking chorus
chastise does it yes
the charge
in a way, it wont really help you with unarmored
Yeah I know. That's the most useful stuff I have. Yesterday i could tank and parry the boss long enough for my teammates to be rezzed....
trying to make one of those goofy emperors bullet loading 1 special shotgun shell at a time builds
here is a good idea if you hear a burster ticking and you know it's getting closer don't sprint willy nilly and drain your stam
Slugs?
emperors bullet should give 30% move speed instead of impact i will take no questions
I know, sometimes I get ahead of myself
if you can't hear, sorry for that
was thinking kantrael
I'm in the phase of pushing bursters before, you know that weird push you can do to tox bursters that doesn't even connect,
But gives you a hit marker and pushes the burster back anyways?
Thooose are weird
cockier, younger Amelia would run up to bursters to heroically push them away from my friends, only to forget i ened stam to push
kantrael is not what youre looking for if you want a one shot special shotgun
pretty sure it's a specific mechanic
Thats a good choice
It's a 2 shot tbh.
granted its very good, but its not exactly what you are looking for for the build you described
That happened to me so much before lol
What's a good method of doing the penance for killing a bunch of stunned enemies?
Now that I know you can do air push from 3m away...
itll depend on what melee im using ig, prob slug if im using a good horde clear weapon. would the chastise buff applying to ranged be as good as the flat 20% from chorus tho? not sure on the numbers
Stun nade, hsword with htaker + deathblow
i just realized the smoke when you pick a talent has skulls in them
stun+flamer
Maybe flamer?
otherwise stun+ heavysword
Heb sword 9?
Nice
any of them
all of them are good the difference is in the swing patterns mostly
I've heard 9 is the most user friendly or something
Or has a versatile swing pattern
@vocal pulsar
6 is the best, its got the best heavy 1 and you can do heavy 1 into special back into heavy 1. You never need heavies for wave clear you can already 2 shot everything in the crowd with your basically flat lights that ignore armor when you kill something on a weakpoint hit. The damage is only slightly higher but when you stack on 50% damage and 50% power its almost 100 damage more. The only time heavy wide swings would be ok is rager packs but you want to use lights for that anyway because they stagger the ragers making it so you dont have to worry about taking damage
You know what? It's fucking good with a bolter.
dance of death is so ass with a kantrael
Lasgun?
but you need to have it for twbs
You need dod and stability?
It's already been benchmarked VI and VII are interchangeable and the IX has better bruiser/fodder clear.
Well don't you want to not tighten it?
tightening it reduces how many enemies can be hit with the fire dot
i just had a real match where the hs7 scoop killed 4 ragers
7 is just bad, isnt that the one that does the side sweep first for heavies? Why would you ever take that over 6 when you cant use your best single target damage until you use the meh one
Lol
Aiight
you can already use the side swing heavy after a light almost instantly
its only difference makes it worse
You gotta get 5 next time I believe in you
mr. scoop man
one day
Based on your previous post, you're not a death blow user, amirite?
heavy 6 vs heavy 7 is like dclaw 4 and dclaw 7, the only change is taking the only thing that would make you take it worse
and yes I use death blow and the + power blessing
It has marginally better performance in some ways and marginally worse in others compared to the VI. The H1 sweep has better hitboxes than the VI H2 sweep as well. It's literally a choice of which offset of the combo would you like today.
deathblow is ignore armor mass on weakpoint kill
no
Nope
Deathblow is the first target damage extension blessing. You can chain the first target damage if you keep getting 1 shots to the weakspot, up to 4 times total.
Difference between charged Crucis and Ironhelm THamner?
look how small that reticle becomes
you can hit like only 1 enemy with it
Si that's why I thought you were using rampage
yes thats what i said, you ignore armor mass on weakpoint kill
you just used different words
Crucis' hits harder but doesn't cleave, Ironhelm's cleaves but doesn't hit as hard.
Ignoring armor mass is very different, Perfect Strike is what you're thinking of
no, theyre two different things
Huh, but that's better to spread the special no?
Does it only go “boom” on certain enemy types for Ironhelm?
Yeah, specials elites and bosses it'll stop and hit them.
It just cleaves fodder.
as far as Ive been told theyre the same thing but its not like fat shark has a dictionary telling you what the wording difference is for blessings
they both say ignore hit mass
It's different
perfect strike just adds from armor
Perfect Strike removes armor bounce and gives you 4x cleave on a crit. BM and Deathblow have a custom mechanic and +weakspot damage.
i will say exhillious is known for literally looking through the code itself to find EXACTLY what everything does
momentum also has some unlisted dodge buffs, for example
This is what I eat before using a bolter or lazgun.
oh that's some stan shit
How do you guys get ready to shoot from afar?
by aiming
If Im not close the blood cant spalter on me
elaborate a little more, what kinda weapon we talkin about, what kinda situation
Security, get this poser out of here
he said bolters and lasguns
Btw, dc7 has a different finesse value
Ive warmed up to bolters because the only times I would pull out a gun is when it would be the most useful gun in the situation
I sometimes like to close my eyes when looking down the sights
is that more hidden stuff because finesse isnt in its values and I was testing both of them off crusher/mauler head/body shots which is the only time I really care about their damage
it is in the values
Also you can find damage numbers here: https://dt.wartide.net/calc/
Darktide calculator for damage breakpoints against enemies. Developed by ManShanko.
when you inspect the finesse range
Am I the only one who eats blinding stew before I aim?
mk4 Finesse
Critical and Weakspot Power: [1.25 - 1.75]
Critical and Weakspot Power: [1.25 - 1.75]
Attack Speed: [1 - 1.14]
Attack Speed: [1 - 1.14]
oh devil claw
No wonder all you guys suck, you're like my teammates who only shoot one bullet at one poxwalker vs my who shoots at least two mags
yea but the only reason to not take 1 is beacuse youre going to be doing heavy attacks on things
and the 7 has both sweep and heavy while 4 has just heavies
so its like 60% of the damage on the 7
Is momentum best keystone for if I wanna one shot everything with Crucis
we boutta hit a new milestone
15m dockets
You tested finesse on armored dudes (claw weakness) and on body shots? I mean... Finesse is for WP.
It'll be the most consistent, but if you want to do boss 1 shots you'll have the best bet with Martyr.
Ah. The one keystone I haven’t touched
the only time Im not going to be using lights on those two is for armored things yes so the only time Ill care about the heavies is when Im fighting things that are heavy so what else should I have tested them on
Actually mk1 with skullcrusher + rampage + punishment is very solid
the scoop and the other strikedown have identical damage profiles
they deal the same damage
mk1 heavies in crowds is good but its trash against armored things
7 also gets PA
Use chastise or a weapon for that
yes but the single target straight down is reversed, and that means you have to use the bad heavy on things if you want the good heavy instead of just resetting to use the good heavy each time
Or parry the ragers
I was about to make a joke about how funny it would be if a weapon didn't have a PA then I remembered force swords exist
I cri
ragers arent the issue crushers and maulers are for the dclaw, which if Im going to take mk4 or 7 would be the only target I would use the heavies on
😔
so why would I not take dclaw 1 over the other 2 if Im going to ignore the heavy attacks o narmored targets
Should I have a certain amount of wounds that’s best at minimum
The sweep and the overhead do the exact same damage.
but if Im going to take oen of the two why would I take the one thats objectivly worse at doing the only thingI want it to do
I literally spent 20 mintues testing the three different ones, I get 750 damage for h1 on the mk6 and ~400 for the h2
its the same damage as the special attack
Up to preference. If you have any TDR nodes +toughness will be super impactful. Otherwise just wounds.
which is why I just spam h1 special to reset it
but maybe Im just insane from too much testing in the meatgrinder
For a versatility fun build I do Martyrdom with og Chainaxe and the braced autogun that's slower and does pierce. Very fun
significantly easier to hit multiple heads with the scoop, it isn't "bad" by any means
They do the same damage.
its not bad no, its just worse at the only thing I would use heavies for because I have to use the bad heavy first, and Im pulling up my zealot so I can screen shot this
because i swear Im not crazy
I ltierally spent multiple after rounds testing the two weapons out
and i was getting the same damag from the special as the heavy attack 2
which is almsot half the amount I get from h1
You might be confusing one of them with the Mk IX, the H1 does the same has the heavies for the VI and the VII but the H2 and H3 do less.
give me a sec I think it was the carapace that made the difference
The 7 has a pa poke. Like the 9. It's superior. QED.
because thats what I was testing it on
nope
same thing
I just had a fever dream
Not only is it still the same damage but the Hswords use special attacks for carapace.
God, if I have to use a sword on carapace I'd rather fucking die
hey deimos is good
imagine not being Psyker or vet
Outside of deimos and ds4 yeah
I swear to god Ive spent atleast 2 hours in the meat grinder on this weapon set alone and I got something as basic as the damage rate wrong
I tried, still good. I miss the hidden block eff tho
the meat grinder changes a person
i remember going in there to test if you could one shot a crusher with bloodthirsty and not using chastise
wdym this is super engaging
It happens at work when you're spending too much time on a excel sheet too.
Almost made a fool of myself in front of a c suite
move your camera more and faster for maximum (perceived) damage
nah am heading to class

oh right your not on my timezone
invite another poor soul
watch him go
wdym poor soul
another poor soul who must be in the same lobby as mankar and josho
wow
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Can't tell
yeah I think they're playing together right about now
@royal vortex may i join at when you are available or are you running duos
now that's what I like to see
sure
rip yoshi
i just ironhelm special'd a burster thinking it was a mutant
I have to be certain on the species
Wouldn't want to be racist you know
arco if you wanted to make a scriers dd build with dclaw as psyker what ranged would you take
mhm that's what I expect from you
in what way is the aerial creature taunting you
Columnus iag optimality wise
i only ask casue i gotta deal with crushers
las pistol for another flavor
It keeps flying around me
vraks 3
oh right dclaw
agri revolver
like literally flying around you

oh true i could take zarona
have you tried it
yes
with a good setup and everything
Assail 
i forget what i ran on it
with a bird/bat flying around you
Yes
I have these cheese fries
this is some disney princess shit
I threw one at it and now it keeps coming back
how are your cheese fries
you threw food
Good
Agree to disagree I think it's baller 🤝
I thought it would be poisonous for it
why
its potato
Tomato
Flew in my face
Idk
It's too high for me to tell
I should probably be inside for the fact it is 1am
once you finish your fries itll probably leave you alone
idk
are you outside eating cheese fries at 1am
u want a few times when you're outside in the middle of the fucking night going through existential dread when ur gonna hit 20
honestly thats kind of a vibe
it's very cinematic
Yes
and u only get one chance
I'm really fucking bored because I got replaced in my job, so now I'm finding a new one
Sounds like a kebab
It's alright
that sucks actually
did they do redundancies/layoffs
now i feel bad for making fun of you about the fries
@hushed knoll It is currently 1 am.
1 day u will look back at the funne cheesy chip story
oh god
What's ur favorite pokemon guys
Don't have one
https://streamable.com/330l1p it wasnt the scoop i lied
i got a cool psyduck card like 15 years ago as my first pokemon card
I hope you get sick
so psyduck
What the fuck
That's so valid honestly



