zealot-class

[coarse birch]

man thrust crusher

[ripe quest]

I'm after a very specific set of things here

[polar nexus]

i was thinking about milking that sc value

[ripe quest]

Though as I've pointed out before both DClaw and Crusher can utilize some of this stuff.

[woeful oyster]

Does SoC inslude yourself or allies only?

[ripe quest]

both

you and allies

[woeful oyster]

Figured

So you want more survivabilty then??

[polar nexus]

skcullcrusher hammerblow dclaw?

[zealous basin]

i miss when this channel didnt actually talk about darktide

[ripe quest]

I'd rather have a different set of survivability talents

[ripe quest]

no

[zealous basin]

blah blah blah crusher blah blah dclaw

how bout yall get some grass

[ripe quest]

I think Josho was looking at Cleave + SC

[ripe quest]

Go back to talking about getting some bitches

[polar nexus]

so rampage probably

[zealous basin]

well now that im actually dating someone i cant really

[polar nexus]

or ss

[zealous basin]

my escapades arent as funny

though last night was baad

[royal vortex]

i had shred/skullcrusher on a dclaw

[ripe quest]

Suffering from success and boasting to terminally online darktibe players I see I see

[royal vortex]

i do not know if skullcrusher is doing much worthwhile

[zealous basin]

yeah shes hot as fuck too

[royal vortex]

because the point of shred is certain one shot breakpoints

[zealous basin]

if that helps

[royal vortex]

but if u think about it crit increases impact values

so u know

[ripe quest]

[royal vortex]

big synergy there

[polar nexus]

did it work?

[woeful oyster]

Is Thy Wrath be swift a non negotiable for you??

[zealous basin]

alwaya

[ripe quest]

grevious wounds

[zealous basin]

s

[royal vortex]

it went ok

[ripe quest]

I want grevious wounds

[coarse birch]

id imagine shred probably putting in most of the work there

[royal vortex]

the crit headshot one tap on ragers with a parry is nice

the big thing is like chastise spamming into ragers and stuff

[coarse birch]

just cause dclaw crits are juiced

[royal vortex]

because if ur chastising ur staggerin

and on a chastise spam build

ur doing it a lot

[ripe quest]

this is why I want grevious wounds

[zealous basin]

i want grievous wounds to remind me that i can still feel

[polar nexus]

man, i think i want a shred sc dc7 now

or maybe a 1

[coarse birch]

this is so relatable

[polar nexus]

and just spam heavies

[royal vortex]

the only dclaw i use is the 7

[zealous basin]

yeah

[ripe quest]

VII is goated

[coarse birch]

man dclaw one

i havent used that since like

jan 2023

[zealous basin]

i havent used dclaw since i made a new character and it had dclaw equipped

who the fuck wants to use a regular basic bitch ass boring sword

[royal vortex]

it was meta for a lil bit after p13

[zealous basin]

freaks

okay and

idc

i used chaxe until p13

get bent nerds

[royal vortex]

admitting u hate urself is not a big win

[zealous basin]

no im just a gigachad

i have to nerf myself because reality cant handle my raw sauce

[coarse birch]

hey exhil is here josho

[zealous basin]

self hating flip arc is over

new flip loves himself because hes cool and funny everyone likes him and he gets hot girls

😤

[tired hawk]

hit me with some good knife zealot builds

i'm having a ton of fun with a basic one rn

[zealous basin]

a different weapon

[tired hawk]

:(

[zealous basin]

hahhaahah guys im so funny

[coarse birch]

i knew you would say that

[zealous basin]

okay now someone help the man

im very predictable truuuu

[coarse birch]

blessings and perks are flak/maniac and uncanny/precog

if you really want bleed flesh tearer is decent

[tired hawk]

gotcha

[royal vortex]

open jtclive video on smite

[coarse birch]

but put flesh over precog

[royal vortex]

i have seen enough.

[coarse birch]

uncanny is needed

[polar nexus]

nah

[coarse birch]

close video

[polar nexus]

he explained that's a bad thing to do

to smite horde

he had another video after tanner responded to that video

saying that's b roll

basically, i show smite because that's what i am talking about, of course you should not smite horde

[zealous basin]

okay so use the A roll

smh

[royal vortex]

i mean straight up this is footage of them playin the game and theyre doing this

its not very hard to not show footage of u smiting like 10 poxwalkers

[coarse birch]

josho will not be swayed on smite and i do not blame him

[royal vortex]

i can show u a much better example of how to use smite that i got from playing a single scab melee only

it's just comical when someone is talking about something and i am watching them smite stuff they could just kill with the trauma staff they brought

[coarse birch]

melee only is like the single time

i am ok with someone bringing smite

like if you brought smite to histg i wouldnt be mad but you also know what you are doing

that being said i probably wouldnt see smite that mission lol

[royal vortex]

it's also like

it isn't called "the smite showcase"

the video is about the nature of smite and how it slots into the game which i feel is advanced enough ur working with the assumption that ppl kinda know what it is

[coarse birch]

yeah its fair

showing smiting a horde probably isnt a good opener

i would understand if a horde was hard to deal with

[polar nexus]

that's tanner point

just use trauma if you want to kill and cc

smite is a stun nade

[north sedge]

tanners point is to smell like farts 😔

[royal vortex]

tanner is an incredibly broken clock

but like surely u can find better looking footage

[polar nexus]

he is like 4chan

[south folio]

i thought i would be immune to tanner if i didnt go into vet chat but then i saw them say that you don't need uncanny on the ds4 in psyker chat

[royal vortex]

something something crit 2 shot

[coarse birch]

ok

who is tanner

[polar nexus]

sometime it's fine, sometime just stfu dude, grow up

[coarse birch]

am i out of the loop

[north sedge]

Ah he's infiltrated psyker chat now

[royal vortex]

he also complains about ppl being toxic

[coarse birch]

i dont really watch dt content

[north sedge]

Youtuber

[south folio]

an extremely abrasive dt youtuber who has bad takes

[polar nexus]

new kid on the block

[royal vortex]

which is p funny

i wanna go back to clay

[south folio]

and is impossible to have an honest conversation with

[north sedge]

Attention hungry

[coarse birch]

what is it about DT

[polar nexus]

he is attention angry

[coarse birch]

that attracts people who spread so much misinfo

other than the game being kinda like

[north sedge]

Attention hangry

[fleet zealot]

tanner is out and about still?

[coarse birch]

not good at telling you stuff

[south folio]

i am genuinely surprised at the sheer confidence that people say wrong shit with

[fleet zealot]

cause feels>actual stats

[royal vortex]

headshots dont matter on iag

🙂

[north sedge]

I am the Queen of France.

[south folio]

OwO

[polar nexus]

yeah, but you know, his short darktide basics video are not bad

[coarse birch]

bad finesse scaling

[dark zealot]

Ewww no not the fr*nch

[fleet zealot]

had someone a few months ago swear by double impact blessed crusher

[polar nexus]

compared to what's other youtubers do...

[south folio]

ur just a hater

[royal vortex]

i cannot tell people "hey go sift through this dumpster" when it comes to dt information

[coarse birch]

yeah i will straight up not reccomend looking stuff up in this game

you like

have to ask here

[polar nexus]

i like ryken 14 and cashcrop, feels like grown ups

[coarse birch]

and hope somebody who knows shit answers

[north sedge]

A fortune cookie from panda express is gonna have better DT info than anything tanner says

[coarse birch]

that bad huh

the only content creators i know of for this game is clay/telepots/ryken

and one other

i cant think of the name of

speedrunner guy

chocob

ik clay is a meme tho

[polar nexus]

chocob does not have takes afaik

telopots rubs some the wrong way

jtclive is partner that does like the game

rar is just here for the money and the clout

clay is probably inoffensive

[coarse birch]

also @royal vortex https://streamable.com/vsohxp i had a "i cant believe they ruined assail" moment today as well

less impressive

no EP btw

[polar nexus]

dd?

[coarse birch]

yeah dd

[polar nexus]

assail dd is good not gonna lie

[coarse birch]

yeah i like it

i run DD on most of my builds

but i also dont use staffs much anymore

[polar nexus]

never liked them

[coarse birch]

just various gunker/melee builds

got kinda tired of the staffs

surge is my fav but it feels very underwhelming now

[royal vortex]

u were farming kills when i was fighting for my life

😔

[coarse birch]

i

you know what

i know better than to take the bait

you are correct josho

[royal vortex]

how am i fkin baiting u

u included the part where i said "mankar im scared"

[coarse birch]

i was holding down that side

thats what you do on that map

plus you had the rest of the team with you

[royal vortex]

scoreboard. padding.

smh.

[coarse birch]

however had i known it was shotgunners and not normal gunners i probably would have moved to by the elevator lol

[royal vortex]

a humble damage farmer

[coarse birch]

not really worried about shotgunners coming from back there

[royal vortex]

tilling his shotgunner soil

[coarse birch]

my bad josho

next time you say

"im scared"

i will assist

[royal vortex]

thank u

[coarse birch]

if it makes you feel better after this i got snuck up on by a gunner and stunlocked to death

[royal vortex]

lmao

i did witness that

[coarse birch]

it was the one gunner

i didnt kill

that whole game was full of gunner stunlocks tbh

[royal vortex]

that whole match was aids

suffering

[coarse birch]

i feel like everytime we play

for long enough

we get one just totally ass match

[royal vortex]

it is how it be

[coarse birch]

like just actual garbage

[royal vortex]

every bolter vet match i have is pain

[coarse birch]

its a sign the runs are going too well

i think my vet is cursed

i never do as well with him as id like and i refuse to run mf

psword plasma

the bolter build was fun

[fleet zealot]

yea

i'm a hater

i hate not being loved rn

[royal vortex]

one day i will master deadshot

[coarse birch]

deadshots really neat till i need to quick swap back to melee

[royal vortex]

😔

[coarse birch]

and i dont run like caxe

so i might actually need to do something defensive before going into offense

but uh

rip stam

[royal vortex]

simply stack stam regen on all curios

[coarse birch]

big brain

im curious about how a focus target build would do with bolter

ive never run focus target

[royal vortex]

i have no idea

i dont like focus target at all

[coarse birch]

it seems odd

but ive heard its cracked

i also like wep specialist a lot so i just end up running that

[royal vortex]

i just wish it had more of a playstyle rather than giving me a buff for smth i already do

[coarse birch]

yeah

[ripe quest]

Scrolling through what I missed and it touched on shitty takes, bleed, and tanner in like 15 minutes.

[coarse birch]

the reason i like DD so much is i feel like im actually doing something for it

same with wep specialist

[ripe quest]

incredible

[coarse birch]

whereas stuff like focus is just

oh i got a buff for playing the game

[royal vortex]

[coarse birch]

yeah we really covered it all

[royal vortex]

zealot/ogryn keystones are unfortunately p much all passive

[coarse birch]

yeah

i still find momentum fun

at least

ogryn i honestly havent played enough

to have an opinion on

iirc its bonk better or shoot better

[royal vortex]

or tank more

[ripe quest]

What I would do for Zealot Keystones that require you to do something for them. Martyrdom is the closest we have and you get it for just being lower health

At the very least Blazing Piety

It can still be crit related but it's dumb rn

you could literally add three 8% crit chance stat nodes to the tree and the entirety of BP would still be available lol.

I think crab was talking about one where if you crit your next ranged finesse hit exploded or something right?

fuck I think I'd even take a Keystone where you ramp up buffs but if you get hit you lose half of it

[south folio]

dodge/stamina related stuff for momentum owo

well, moreso than what we have now

[ripe quest]

I'd like it if they actually listed the buffs too

[south folio]

no

[ripe quest]

A mod called Fatshark Special that makes the descriptions for everything really vague

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-week-tummy-cute-funny-gif-7326480

[ripe quest]

Shroudfield -
You receive stealth buffs for a few seconds.

[ember yew]

martyrdom actually could use a rework maybe

i've seen way too many idiots who stand in the fire at the start of the match

just to drop down soon later

[south folio]

(the descriptions themselves get stealth)

[ripe quest]

While I do think that Martyr should be something a bit more engaging than what it is rn I actually do like it. If you aren't making yourself a victim of natural selection it's a good buff to your performance.

[ember yew]

yeah, it's no doubt it's powerful, but it kinda promotes bad things for bad players

so i'm not sure how you can rework it so people will stop harming themselves

[ripe quest]

Yeah it's not really like Loner where an obvious solution exists.

[polar nexus]

god i love jumping into a qp auric and having a bunch of contracts done like that

[wooden river]

Blazing Piety could maybe move the cdr-on-crit node to the left side of the BP branch to force an actual decision

But it wouldn’t be a fun decision, and I’d have no idea what to replace that cdr node with

I’d rather BP just like

Add fire stacks to enemies you crit or something

Proc a short range fire aura while active, provide crit chance when hitting flaming enemies

I have no idea

[celest quail]

I just met the legendary daleth

[split ibex]

I used the chainaxe one time on vet - no idea if they're worth

but Brunt has this

[obsidian prairie]

Buy it

Always buy stuff with stats that nice

[placid hedge]

Any advice on these eviscs? Not too sure which one I should keep. I need the rampage 4 off of one of them.

[ornate bone]

I'd get it from the 370

Unarmored and crit chance is kinda eh and you already have a good one with the other

[placid hedge]

Alrighty wasn't sure if the crit chance was worth it or not.

[balmy sinew]

Unyeilding good on HeavySword??

I'd say hammer, crusher have better CC not dmg

[ripe quest]

Probs Crusher for elites and Thammer for monsters.

Crusher can put out some very potent damage against smaller stuff. Against Crushers the Thammer can 1 shot them with some setup and the Crusher can kill them pretty fast as well.

It does ok for what it is but a Thammer is winning out against anything that is Unyielding.

Chainaxe will be better for non-Unyielding bosses though.

[spare talon]

not even close

but

it can still do some considerable damage

[ripe quest]

As I said a Thammer is beating every weapon out when it comes to Unyielding.

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1172786904345878528/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.05_-_23.05.56.21_-_Trim.mp4?ex=65c7196b&is=65b4a46b&hm=f0be7a827b37eba6fb3bbe4423fa986c2c9816dadaf8cedcfe79b8051f463651&

this was me trying out a goofy build, i wouldnt really recommend invis with crusher

[ripe quest]

All that setup for an activated base heavy on a Thammer

worth of damage

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-cat-silly-cat-cat-kitten-gif-7414586676150300212

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-7tv-gif-17891567587089381962

[spare talon]

thammer feels like actual cheeks to use any time youre not swinging at a boss tho

crusher feels like youre literally god himself

[ripe quest]

It's actually significantly better than it used to be.

[spare talon]

i know,

i know its not bad at all

it just feels awful to use imo

[ripe quest]

Like it's got respectable crowd damage now and on the overheads for base attacks it bops

I find that I really dislike using the Crucis due to the hitstun, but the Ironhelm lacks that

so I really enjoy it

esp with my discovery of it being a really fun combo weapon

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-nice-bite-lip-amazing-ungh-gif-15649426

beating em OFF MORE LIKE CUZ HAMMER SUCKS TRANSCEND TO CRUSHER

[ripe quest]

like I've probs beat this dead horse a bit much but like, this is so fun

[zinc talon]

Chanine Orbital Insertion Program

dogs are unironically the best they've ever been right now

I actively enjoy every encounter

[spare talon]

thats 2 missions in a row ive joined failing to swap off the knife i was fucking around with in the psyk

[zinc talon]

squaring up in the middle of a hallway as a dogpack bears down on the team

and holding em back

[zinc talon]

top five best darktide enjoyments

easily

[zinc talon]

boy your luck fizzled out then came right the fuck back didn't it

I've been chasing that^ dragon ever since

if I had a lump of coal in my ass I would've shit out a diamond

Maxx Pukkr

[spare talon]

wow that is a statement

[zinc talon]

lol I had the same thought as I was writing it

but the heart wants what it wants

and would not be talked down

[spare talon]

oh my fucking god THIS GUYS SWORD IS SO ASS

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF

DELIBERATELY CHOOSING MELEE CRIT DAMAGE, THUS LOCKING A CLEAVE BLESSING ON AN HSWORD\

[zinc talon]

that

is a bold choice

like damn the checklist goin with my gut ALRIGHT LETS FUCK THIS PIG bold

I mean it is double 80s

does beg the question of how it does in the moment

I am piqued

where's my bad decision juice it's time to waste some fuckin steel

[placid hedge]

Look it probably had 25% flak and 10% elites naturally and that wasn't cutting it lmao

[abstract quail]

how bad is the ironhelm compared to crucis

i see people recommending against it

[fleet zealot]

Not really that bad as it used to be

Its clunkier and you eat a 25% damage loss on activated attacks

But the cleaving activation can be useful

[abstract quail]

is that 25% loss significant enough where you're not one-shotting some elites/specials?

[polar nexus]

on the contrary you'll have a better time reaching elites in a horde

wrong reply

but with that cleave

that works too lmao

the loss will be felt more on bosses

the ih works, the crucis works

[abstract quail]

Yes sure, but so does it not lose any one-shot breakpoints against the crucis?

[polar nexus]

it's a matter of moveset tbh

you should be able to oneshot a mutie with both

and you won't oneshot a crusher with both

[abstract quail]

that's good to know

[ripe quest]

It's technically less clunky in general but it is fair to say that the base combos are clunkier.

The near complete lack of hitstun on the special attack makes it pretty smooth feeling compared to a Crucis.

[placid hedge]

Can either of them one shot a crusher with 25% carapace?

[ripe quest]

It's a 20% loss, only a 10% loss on the H3.

It'll hit a lot of the same BPs but it'll show with Crushers and bosses, from what I know though both should be able to 1 shot Crushers easy.

[abstract quail]

right

topic change; when fishing for good blessings, is it better to keep upgrading white -> blue or go straight for gold for higher chance at a higher tier one?

I'm specifically looking for Thrust 3/4

[ripe quest]

You want to upgrade high rating base weapons to get better chances at T4 stuff. Upgrading from white to blue will be cost efficient, upgrading from white to orange will be item efficient. Up to what you want to deal with.

ime upgrading to blue, swapping the blessing to a T4 that I don't want for the 2nd blessing, then upgrading to orange yields the best results.

[polar nexus]

exhil

[ripe quest]

whabbup

[polar nexus]

what about red stimms and fire nades?

because it works with bleed nades

[ripe quest]

I'm sure it helps a bit but I wouldn't use a damage stim for just a fire grenade.

[abstract quail]

blessing swap prior to orange is interesting, is it because orange generally rolls T4s?

[ripe quest]

My understanding is that the higher your base rating is compared to the max it could be at that rarity will skew rolls. I have no evidence for this outside of my own experience.

But I also don't craft a whole lot compared to some because my average weapon roll looks like this.

Me running white and green items for a bit ruined my standards.

[zinc talon]

++ TRANSCEND TO CRUSHER ++

[zinc talon]

Heh my own brain hears it in Hadrons' voice, but underwater, and inside your inner ear

[fleet zealot]

Are you smoking something and what is it called

[zinc talon]

Not loud like it's hurting your ears, but loud like it's the only thing you hear

If you saw, you saw

[fleet zealot]

Dude got that flinstone pack

Fuckin bedrocks

[zinc talon]

Christmas present from my acquisitions expert

More purple than green

[median steeple]

God that sounds so gooood

[zinc talon]

Lidurilly me

Except for the beard

[spare talon]

hi yes what the FUCK does this mean

[zinc talon]

And the chesthair

Cuz I'm a guy stop hitting on me jesus

https://tenor.com/view/funny-smile-gif-19209334

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cant-laugh-lol-smile-gif-11684721

[median steeple]

The world of speedrun cheaters is crazyy

[zinc talon]

there's three zealots

and a veteran

they're the blue haired reddit athiest

and you're their religious pals

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-chris-evans-laughing-chris-evans-chris-evans-laugh-j-jonah-jameson-gif-23453690

took me a sec but when it clicked

top tier bigg gigg

[median steeple]

Always pray to JC before chastising into a crusher horde

I love the fact that Catholicism lasted until the 30th millennium with ollanius pius

[bronze phoenix]

actually playing with people in a chat instead of randos made all the difference, shocking stuff done, one more second of the abyss and then the big one

[median steeple]

Yup having people with braincells makes most of the penances not ass

[bronze phoenix]

abhor the mutant can still bite me

[median steeple]

The worst one is still make every shot count

Also

Monstrum mallium

Or something like that

[fleet zealot]

Hit so hard it bugged my discord

[ripe quest]

I hate games where it just feels like I'm farming damage while waiting for randoms

[ripe quest]

both Psykers just fucking smited everything the whole game

[dusty hull]

Alright shotgun?

[fleet zealot]

Oh is discord just not working

[median steeple]

No not really

Stat allocations are

[spare talon]

this is the one im in rn

[median steeple]

Sub optional

[dusty hull]

How so?

The Blessing and Perk are eh

But the Modifers seem alright

I'm not looking for a god roll just a good weapon of each type

[spare talon]

terrifying barrage is an ass blessing, not even gonna sugar coat it, its one of the worst
infested isnt really that good cuz it only applies to poxwalkers, which you wouldnt really be shooting, and dogs

you would have to get both a good blessing and a good perk as you upgrade it

[little thicket]

What about poxbursters?

Explode them in teammates face no?

[ripe quest]

You need to be lucky to get a good roll for it but the base stats are fine.

[dusty hull]

If they blashem the God Emperor

[median steeple]

I mean

It's not for melk bucks

[ripe quest]

mhm

may as well

[median steeple]

So you'd lose nothing valuable if you try to upgrade

[dusty hull]

Right

What chainaxe would you recommend?

[median steeple]

Pretty it's preference on it's moveset

But I don't know enough about them

One is horde clear and more sweeps and the other is more single target

Iirc

[spare talon]

wow

[median steeple]

Holy moly

[dusty hull]

I just bought a random one from the bot

[median steeple]

Upgrade and pray

[spare talon]

this is all that defenses effects btw

[dusty hull]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-tom-cruise-gif-7982086

Also is it just me or Zealot moves way faster now

[median steeple]

It's so weird that defense affects sprinting

[muted vale]

The one which staggers everything by single target lights attacks while having cleave on heavy, it felt great .)

[dusty hull]

Mobility? Naaaaah

The Omnimessiah had other plans

[ripe quest]

Mk IV if you want to clown on Ragers and crowds, Mk XII if you want higher per hit damage.

[dusty hull]

Is this new or something?

Or have I not noticed it

[spare talon]

this has been on the skill tree since it was introduced

[dusty hull]

Then I must have concidently missed it or not notice how much of a difference it feels

[spare talon]

plus remember that your weapon stats are what determine your sprint speed too

[ripe quest]

You're looking for Headtaker/Slaughterer/Thrust for blessings. Perks are Flak + Maniac/Elites/Unyielding.

I wish you luck

[spare talon]

so having high mobility will make you feel faster

[ripe quest]

It's a fun weapon

[spare talon]

i played a game as a lvl 6 character today

felt like i was watching a video at 0.5x speed

[dusty hull]

I just need a few more Plasteel to get legendary (so one game)

[spare talon]

hope that your other blessing is good

[ripe quest]

It's fumbled but you can save it

[dusty hull]

Why is the rare material common and the common material so taxing

[median steeple]

Epic diamantine moment

[spare talon]

both of those perks arent the greatest, but infested on a melee weapon is still better that like half the other options tbh

[ripe quest]

Fatshark forgot to add a way to expend extra of an overflowed material

[spare talon]

whoopsie

[dusty hull]

I would be fine trading Diamantine for something else, hell even money

At least then you have more money to roll weapons

[ripe quest]

I think the fastest way they could do something is allow you to either swap diamantine to plasteel or change the currency used at melks random shop to diamantine. They could do a lot of stuff with it, I pray they will with whatever they're doing with crafting.

[dusty hull]

You could have Melk's standard and special stock

One requires money while the other is higher quality but requires diamantine

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-3-slave-knight-gael-boss-gif-4128512292378114485

That thing, your plasteel hand it over

[dusty hull]

That's not Plasteel?

[median steeple]

Omg I'm having a 2 am moment

Aughh

[median steeple]

Smowshark

[dusty hull]

Which would you recommend?

[median steeple]

If you get a good blessing on the right one it can be pretty good

Just replace momentum and block

[dusty hull]

Is Momentum not good?

I haven't been lucky enough to actually have it

It seems it would pair well with Rampage as a horde clearer

[polar nexus]

momentum is good on the nu evis

because you light spam i horde

and it's purely horizontal

[median steeple]

Yum

[polar nexus]

shredder is to low on left

and well, a bit low on right too

[dusty hull]

I barely use the special

[polar nexus]

and mobility hmmm, well you will lose a dodge

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[dusty hull]

Do not worry, I have faith

[zinc talon]

well damn melk cool my man cool

melk you magnificent disaster

[median steeple]

Wow

[dusty hull]

Which pistol is better?

[ripe quest]

The left one.

[dusty hull]

Thanks

[zinc talon]

what the fuck is going on

[ripe quest]

something something shadow buff to shops and emp gifts

[median steeple]

That kickback is looking juicy

[ripe quest]

holy shit a paintball gun

[median steeple]

Lmao

Look at the fucking ripper gun in the first two

Fuck going on here

[zinc talon]

THEY HAVE FIDDLED WITH THE RNG

I feel it in my guts I've seen it before ibs habbeneng

[spare talon]

That's a destiny pulse rifle

[median steeple]

New raid exotic

[ornate bone]

First kill an undescribed number of people in Crucible with headshots, we'll guide you with a percentage and not tell you the next step

[median steeple]

Fuck it

Exotic bounties are back

Good luck chucklenuts

[fleet zealot]

Only thing i remember about destiny one was me slide shotgunning people

In pvp

All i did

Got the weapon mods or whatever that improved sliding

[spare talon]

I hope you stub your toe so hard it bleeds

[fleet zealot]

Oh shit that unlocked a repressed memory

[ornate bone]

Who would win: shotgun sliding or shoulder charging someone around a corner

[fleet zealot]

Both die at the same time

[vestal spade]

[fleet zealot]

I want fatshark to ban wcm now

I cant stand looking at these

I use it to change around parts of the same family

Meanwhile people out here making tech heresy

[vestal spade]

how about this beauty?

[fleet zealot]

Whats the base

Infantry las?

If so it is good, farther than what i would do but not an abomination

[vestal spade]

agri IAG

[fleet zealot]

Why the las barrel

[vestal spade]

idk it looks cool

[fleet zealot]

Oh fick

I saw the little tip

It isnt a las barrel

Thats an autogun barrel alright

[zinc talon]

CHECK YOUR VENDORS EVERY HOUR THEY HAVE FIDDLED WITH THE GEAR MATH

I feel it in my BONES

[fleet zealot]

You just got ur lucky break

Or maybe not

But melk store is daily reset

[zinc talon]

this is all today's

across my 3

https://tenor.com/view/come-to-me-dr-evil-sad-come-here-gif-5275332

I run an orphanage for disabled and developmentally delayed weapons

the Warphanage

it takes a lot of duckets to properly feed, house, and store them to occasionally roll out so people can laugh at them

donate today

please make checks payable to Stabitat for Humanity

[vestal spade]

antius ward slide shotgun

that was the dirty stuff

[ornate bone]

Ugly stinky

[dense field]

I misclicked and entered the vet chat for a moment. I've instantly become very angry about how wrong some people are.

It keeps happening

[ember yew]

Tell them to run ammo aura with every build

otherwise i'l sue them

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-cheers-the-great-gatsby-coupe-glass-toast-gif-10657915

[dense field]

I'm not going back

[polar nexus]

@ripe quest you know what's the crit strings on the autopistol?

[zinc talon]

lol

[marble estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437863525965365249/1201849009958821908/18C3B9B9-83BA-4E79-B570-B762C6E6BEA4.mp4?ex=65cb501d&is=65b8db1d&hm=84e6429d3705a519ae615581fb8b5069013abcf5857fb49bb10b1c694bd60ba6&

The entire Zealot class in a nutshell

With a hint of Psyker powers

[stiff dagger]

take out infested or flak?

[ember yew]

oh

weapon mod

is now on nexus

[ember yew]

now you dont need to pester people in discord

for an update

[zinc talon]

glad they finally put the base edition on the site too

for a bit anyway you could get the ancillary stuff but not the WCM dot mod part

[rigid trellis]

swap out infested

flak is always good, infested isn't

[slate notch]

Is it stable? Or will I encounter usual conflicts and is not really worth?

[placid salmon]

hey chorus users, do yall use the toughness dmg reduction or the dmg bonus perk

[zinc talon]

it doesn't seem to play nice with the mod that puts all your weapon stats on the inventory mini-card

or it may just be that mod generates its own out of memory errors

I'm crashing a bit more than I used to, but so is everybody else

doesn't feel like it's being obnoxious on purpose or anything

although if you spam a bunch of randomizations and equip-ings it'll kick you to the character select pretty routinely

but for that

there's this

can't get kicked to character select if you're already there

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[sharp zodiac]

Absolutely not

Neither

[zinc talon]

nope

the emperor's finest

[dense field]

I never use +damage on chorus. Reason: I give teammates 100 gold toughness, might as well double down with tdr. Chorus is best used to de-escalate the situation, to save teammates from harm. Teams wipe when they don't have a window of opportunity to reload a plasma, to pick up that one psyker, to catch a flamer's head with a crosshair. Teams don't wipe because they needed 10 seconds of moderately increased damage. So it's only logical to pick tdr over +dmg.

[zinc talon]

well fuckin put

it buys time

it can be used offensively to great effect too

to wade hip deep through a corridor cowering everything that would've brought their gun or sword to bear on you if you hadn't

[dense field]

Yes. It's a great repositioning tool.

[zinc talon]

it'll let the squad keep momentum moving through an otherwise closing net kind of ambush

pushes dogs off, makes chargers drop squadmates, even staggers chaos spawns out of eating someone's liver

sends bursters backwards like they were pushed

and I've never seen them not detonate safely away afterwards

like smitening makes em pop

none of these situations are aided by the group having more damage, or damage soak

cuz to Eru's point by the time it ends, everyone has wiggled out of their would-be-impending-doom and is dropping the hammer on what almost did it

[long sluice]

can anyone help me understand, how do we know the cleave limit of a weapon (how many max targets you can hit) and do blessings that increase cleave increase the limit?

[placid salmon]

i personally use damage because i find the reduction redundant, after i save the team from a wipe it'd make sense to give em a boost to their damage to get shit done in a more timely manner. since it's so easy to spam abilities on zealot, i feel i might as well give my ability two uses in combat rather than just one

[dense field]

You didn't save the team YET, you're stalling. You keep the situation from going from bad to worse - for a time.
OR
Your team was doing just fine and you're being nice to them, in that case it doesn't matter what you use.

[lethal totem]

is it possible to produce a worse take

[cerulean moth]

They should replace toughness with temp hp

[frozen glen]

bait or self report

[cerulean moth]

🔥✍️🔥

[frozen glen]

either way it's funny

[fading vale]

the code and testing, and cleave is cleave, cleave does not effect the cleave damage curve

[dense field]

I mean I could try...

[lethal totem]

these are the weirdos that run wounds on vet that you need to carry lol

[fading vale]

cleave simply increases the amount of hitmass you can cleave through

[long sluice]

does a blessing that boosts cleave affect cleave damage or cleave targets? or both?

[fading vale]

nothing boost the cleave damage curve

[placid salmon]

like i said you can use abilities on zealot so often that you can do both of these a lot lol

[fading vale]

power or damage increase the damage as expected to cleave targets, but it does not change the curve

[dense field]

True

[long sluice]

ok so just cleave targets?

[frozen glen]

brutal momentum ignoring cleave damage mechanica

lmaoooooo

[placid salmon]

i use wounds and bleed for the emperor on zealot because i already have "perfect" wound curios and i dont feel like grinding for perfect health/toughness curios

[fading vale]

well... yeah it just kind of says fuck you but outside of BM

cleave means amount of hitmass you cleave through

[dense field]

There's no such thing as a perfect curio

[fading vale]

so like, revolver has 6.5 hitmass cleave

[fading vale]

toughness toughness gunner ordos be like

[cerulean moth]

YOURE PERFECT

Fuckwit

[dense field]

The meta is fluid as we gain knowledge

[cerulean moth]

There is none

[fading vale]

a maniac rager has 6 hitmass

meaning a revolver can hit 2 ragers

[long sluice]

ok so getting increase cleave blessing on a devil sword would be basically useless then?

[cerulean moth]

Put this in for night terms for me

Fortnite

[fading vale]

not necessarily no, cause you would hit more targets

and get faster cooldown

[frozen glen]

and cleave higher hitmass enemies

[fading vale]

stagger and crit apply to cleave targets as well

[cerulean moth]

L.azoor please

[dense field]

Honestly x3 ordos revive is a great idea

[cerulean moth]

I can’t understand unless there’s a chug jug reference

Stop gatekeeping

[fading vale]

fuck fortnite

[frozen glen]

ordo curio perk is the true endgamers choice

[cerulean moth]

🔥✍️🔥

[dense field]

YOU'RE a chug jug

[quasi marsh]

3x revive isnt bad ye

[cerulean moth]

[placid salmon]

imagine your weapon can only consume 3 chug jugs per enemy, and an enemy has 6 of them

[long sluice]

ok so because I am dumb then. You said also said revoler has 6.5 hitmass cleave and can 2 shot a rager. is "hitmass cleave" the same as "cleave"?

[cerulean moth]

Man they even spelt it right

[fading vale]

no it can shoot 2 ragers

[long sluice]

ok

[quasi marsh]

not 2 shot a rager

shoot through 2 ragers

[long sluice]

ok I totally understand then, I misread that.

[wooden river]

x3 revive on vet with the revive talent is pretty funny

[frozen glen]

cleave for ranged weapons is penetration

[fading vale]

so the first rager consumes 6 hitmass

[wooden river]

you just tap E on netted teammates and bam, they're free

[fading vale]

and then the bullet goes through and hits a second and stops

same mechanic as melee

[long sluice]

but first remember to chase down the trapper and clear all the infested first, make it comfortable for our trapped mate.

[cerulean moth]

I know what I must do

[long sluice]

totally get it, thanks for the help.

[cerulean moth]

I ran the same build on hand maiden

For instant revives

[clear knot]

ur stinky

[cerulean moth]

People die because it’s to-

What did you say

Harlet

You wench

[copper hawk]

wow

bait or a moron

[fading vale]

you can find weapon cleave stats here https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

[copper hawk]

i'm never rlly a meanie but

[cerulean moth]

MEANIE ALRT MEANIE ALERT

[copper hawk]

STIMKY BRAIN TAKE

[cerulean moth]

🚨

Stop typing like that.

[copper hawk]

noh

i will neber

[cerulean moth]

I smell the brain worms on you

[copper hawk]

i won't CONFORMZ 2 ur EPIL wayz

[quasi marsh]

3x revive speed vet + plasma suicide bomber vet

a match made in heaven

[copper hawk]

[quasi marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvTcePTUT_E

will you play your revive build with me on this build 👉 👈

[cerulean moth]

This isn’t about conforming

This is about making me happy

[open echo]

least obnoxious ui lmao

[dense field]

5 wounds and smoke grenades

[wooden river]

sprint efficiency zealot

you just

never stop sprinting

you are the running man

or woman

it's pretty fun honestly

[polar nexus]

this is my new favorite toy lol

[placid salmon]

what's the opinion on tac axes

[quasi marsh]

pretty weak

[dense field]

Mk2 is ok

[wooden river]

Mk2 was always the most tolerable imo

[polar nexus]

it's better with martyr crit or momentum crit

[placid salmon]

i think my mk2 tac axe is just a bit short of one-shotting poxwalkers lol

[dense field]

Taxes have a surprisingly high stagger

[wooden river]

just because of the mk2 heavies cleaving on every hit. But at that point, just run brutal momentum combat axe unless you're really attached to tac axes

they're strange weapons

for the most part, they are just worse knives. Their lights are entirely vertical single-target hits, and only one of the heavies on each of the the non-mk2 taxes is a cleave

[polar nexus]

you need to do heavies

[dense field]

Also, shred is probably better than Headtaker on them

If you want a crit build caxe, just run it with a taxe instead

[sacred vessel]

which turtolsky sword would you guys recommend and with what blessings

[dense field]

Headtaker rampage mk6, Headtaker deathblow mk9

[wooden river]

it's okay, just wait for dual tac axes to fix everything

🙂

[placid salmon]

how would you build a taxe for a crit build? i have a mk2 that has brutal momentum 3 and headtaker 3 rn, not sure if i have the blessings for it tho lol

[dense field]

All heavies are good with Headtaker rampage

Mk9 is also good with deathblow

[dense field]

Scourge, fury, shred instead of ht

[cerulean moth]

She take my head till i rampage

🔥✍️🔥

[placid salmon]

not sure if you mean blazing piety or fury of the faithful but im already using both so lol

[dense field]

Both is a correct answer

[placid salmon]

what would you do for perks

[dense field]

I have no idea about the breakpoints. You want your heavy weakspot hits to kill something meaningful

[placid salmon]

dang

[dense field]

So you have to figure that out with a calculator

I definitely think that Grievous Wounds is a good talent for a taxe

I don't usually take it but I will

[polar nexus]

That's the stagger on WP node?

[dense field]

(It's stagger on weakspot hits)

Yes

Under TWBS

[polar nexus]

Yeah I can see

Desperation could work as well

Because of push attack combo

[fading vale]

apparently grievous makes a difference for staggering ragers on hammer

[polar nexus]

I tried pf + cavalcade on bolter in a bp build tonight, I was pleasantly surprised

[polar nexus]

I think blaze away + cavalcade on shredder could work too as well

It's probably better on vet tho

[cerulean moth]

Looks like a titan fall 2 weapon

[cerulean moth]

Should have stopped cooking

[zinc talon]

heh

[cerulean moth]

First one was good okri

[zinc talon]

how about now

[cerulean moth]

I think the problem is that they use the ogryn explosive guantlet as a sight and it’s so iffy

The tasteful thickness off it…

My god it even has a knife.

It’s perfect

[zinc talon]

no one dared to make a move

[cerulean moth]

I fuck with it

[zinc talon]

no one d ared to make a slip

[cerulean moth]

Im kinda about it

[zinc talon]

for the man before them had the big iron on his hip

*bigiron on his hiiiiiiiip *

[copper hawk]

this sucks awesomely

[zinc talon]

*bigiron on his hiiiiiiiiip *

[zinc talon]

heh ikr, it is perfectly ridiculous

ork tier weaponry

without the benefit of the gestalt field

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-ryan-reynolds-mask-off-doctor-chaos-theory-gif-17330903

Apothejerry when I come back from the trial run with it

as he's stitching my parts together

[ornate bone]

I am looking for a Knife and Autopistol build, anybody got a link?

[zinc talon]

have you considered

[ornate bone]

no

[zinc talon]

the knifle instead

[sharp zodiac]

Grab the barrel and start swinging

[polar nexus]

You should use a Colomnus auto gun instead it's better

[cerulean moth]

You say that hand cannon is bad

But I fuck with it

Im about it

[ornate bone]

I dont want to thoooooooooough

[sharp zodiac]

Man these toast sticks are good

[polar nexus]

Well. I would run shredder with a blazing piety build for the crits

[cerulean moth]

I’ll toast your stick in a second frenchie don’t test me

[sharp zodiac]

Wh

Ok it's better to just insert the sticks entirely in my mouth than just taking half bites

[cerulean moth]

So shut the fuck yp

[polar nexus]

You can use the knife with every keystone but there's a bunch of talents you want to take due to its strengths. Scourge, dr on crits, duellist

[cerulean moth]

Yeah you would say that

🔥

[frank night]

She has learned to eat bread in her mid 20s

[polar nexus]

Add for the blessings, it's uncanny + riposte / precog / flesh tearer

[cerulean moth]

NNEEEERRRDDD

Fuck breakpoints if it dies it dies

[sharp zodiac]

IM 19

[cerulean moth]

Me to.

19 inches in your mother

🔥✍️🔥

[frank night]

Soon u will be able to breathe and type at the same time

[cerulean moth]

Sorry Luna I don’t know why I’m attacking you

Just saw you

And thought I gotta be a hater

Probably because your French

So it’s justified

Im not sorry

[frank night]

Random Americans attempted to crush her with a car

[cerulean moth]

Really it’s your fault

[cerulean moth]

Luna gotta be lucky every time while my homies only gotta be lucky once 💯

[sharp zodiac]

You can apply that to a lot of things

[cerulean moth]

Yeah IRA quotes are pretty applicable

[zinc talon]

fuckin finally

an actual bullpup

[dense field]

Destiny 2 tier bullpup

But at least it actually looks good

Unlike destiny's abominations

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-weird-nerd-catfish-lol-gif-23355133

[zinc talon]

Obnoxious Range Fudd Noises

alternatively

https://tenor.com/view/what-i-want-a-christmas-story-ralphie-air-rife-red-ryder-gif-3577154

https://tenor.com/view/gun-cocking-red-rocket-shotgun-cock-ready-my-weapon-lets-rock-gif-24731252

children

avert your eyes

this mod is the truest embodiment of chaotic neutral I think I've ever seen in darktide

[true mantle]

That guy was good

[zinc talon]

AINT NUFFIN

CUZZIN ROCKRI GITS TWENNY R FURTY MUTIES

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166785409938903211/1201883910846554112/destroyer_of_galaxies.mov?ex=65cb709e&is=65b8fb9e&hm=1536fe3bae078bb980e7f6663d047afd2585f741d35772781337e6d85348839b&

[placid salmon]

lmfao another teammate and i kept pushing a burster into each other on accident

hot potato with the burster

[tame mirage]

God I hate bullpups

[verbal marlin]

How good is this knife? Is it only decent or is it close to godly?

Was planning on switching out Mercy Killer, not sure what for yet;' and should I replace Specialist damage with Carapace or Flak damage?

[sharp zodiac]

Uncanny and the choice is yours

But you'll see more flak enemies than cara

Despite the crusher hordes

[zinc talon]

best thing for crushers

is if you can't join em beat em

to death with your own crusher

https://tenor.com/view/nailed-it-chris-evans-hot-handsome-gif-14348607

unironically though, the crusher is an entire insurance policy when doing missions with lots of armor

like mostly melee and HISGs

[dense field]

Mercy killer to uncanny strike
Specials to Elites

[shy river]

The newer chainaxe has been doin work on crusher gangs by virtue of the fact it can get thrust and the eviscerators can't, hit the head on a charge up and they dead

It's a little slow on the lights for my tastes but still I'm liking it

[true mantle]

How are you replying to something I said one year ago?

[tropic harbor]

He had help from the legendary Daleth

All hail Daleth

King of shotguns

Emperor of hammers

[true mantle]

Rarely a name sticks with me. But that guy was up there in skill with the legendários such as Lord Josho, Lord Lazorr, Lord Agent Chaos, etc.

[dense field]

bruh

[bold gust]

so what exactly does Perfect Strike on a Heavy Eviscerator do? Im dumb

[dense field]

Not much

It's not good at all

[bold gust]

alright

[north sedge]

bay leaf

[true mantle]

Bro wtf. Why yall replying to shit from a year ago? 😂😂😂

[north sedge]

i dunno i just thought it would be funny after the other guy

[true mantle]

It was. Stephanie and I enjoyed it

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pillsbury-doughboy-pillsbury-shades-sunglasses-cool-gif-22258477

[south folio]

you are dough that has been left out for too long

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/slim-gif-21460500

[fading vale]

it has unlisted effects, 0.25x hitmass modifier and ignore stopping on carapace

aka not that useful outside of light spamming crushers if you are into that sort of thing

[gilded lintel]

Is fhere a compiled list of unlisted effects somewhere? x.x

[fading vale]

not afaik

there's a ton though

[prisma ember]

What tactical axe is meta?

Atrox?

[north sedge]

none

arent all taxes atrox

[solar gorge]

atroxious

[fleet zealot]

mk1? idk

it's the one with the most horizontalish attacks/horizontalish heavies

and the mk4 is decent enough

[plain dragon]

What's the really good atrox tactical axe again

[sharp zodiac]

10 years in the joint

[oak ermine]

2 or 7, I’d wager

[plain dragon]

Thanks

[sharp zodiac]

2-7 years in the joint

But in all seriousness

Yeah those two are good

[plain dragon]

Trying to branch out from eviscerators

[sharp zodiac]

Don't stray too far

[pseudo anvil]

yo guys, check this out

i think this is pretty good, do you agree?

[sharp zodiac]

Uh, I mean it can WORK

But like

[wraith helm]

ehhh... missing a lot

[sharp zodiac]

At best you're better off claiming the brutal momentum

But if you STILL want to use it you can put on decimator and put unarmored over stam

[faint vapor]

It could be worse but could be a lot better

[verbal marlin]

@sharp zodiac @dense field Thank you for the info!!
I checked the enemy list to refresh on how many elites, yep, definitely doing extra Elite damage!!

[sharp zodiac]

Nice

[pseudo anvil]

at the moment, i dont have anything better so i guess it will have to do for now

[faint vapor]

The true build decider is always Hadron

[pseudo anvil]

thats only the case if the weapon isnt max level though, isnt it?

[vast basin]

Hadron can easily brick a 380

[faint vapor]

"Oops no brutal momentum"

[wraith helm]

https://tenor.com/view/penguinz0-meme-gif-5659513629760057627

Hadron pls

[pseudo anvil]

you make it sound like thats a good blessing, is that the case?

cause i think i read about that being good

[faint vapor]

Observe

[wraith helm]

Bm at any level is incredibly good. Like the hidden meta people don't want spoken about

[faint vapor]

Its one of the strongest

[pseudo anvil]

ooooo

[faint vapor]

Its comparable to power cycler imo

[pseudo anvil]

well, that atleast i have that + 80 finesse which afaik is good on rashad

[sharp zodiac]

It really focuses more on the hit mass ignore

[faint vapor]

And cycler is like +300% damage potential

[sharp zodiac]

The weakspot damage is basically a nice cherry or two to your drink

[pseudo anvil]

that means that its level matters little then, no?

[fading vale]

if BM was a "hidden meta" then people wouldn't always take it on literally every weapon that has it

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah, level isn't that crazy

[hushed agate]

Still not sure if momentum works like the perk or how it should

[faint vapor]

Its still damage but yeah doesn't matter

[fading vale]

yeah BMs benefit is being able to cleave and kill 4 targets as long as you kill each one

the weakspot is negligible

[fading vale]

wdym

[hushed agate]

The weakspot perk applies extra damage to only the extra damage given from hitting a weakspot and not in total making it pretty much useless

Or something like that

[fading vale]

oh BM, not momentum

[hushed agate]

I forgot there was a blessing called that too mb lol

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