zealot-class

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/spanish-man-mdr-sing-gif-7692927

[dark zealot]

pay day 2 is alright, shotguns are OP

they deal damage per pellet

[misty mason]

But that took a lot of trial and the right build

[dark zealot]

so only one pellet needs to hit to deal max damage

so a worse spread is better

[misty ravine]

And only one has to hit a head for it to count as a headshot on all targets IIRC

[vestal spade]

i dont really like the way it plays and how fast the movement is, like necromunda too

[misty mason]

yeesh lol

[dark zealot]

yeah the tank power fantasy is terrible

you are all like the zealots on the most unholy drugs

[misty ravine]

I don't like how they made the game difficult at the highest level (basic shooter enemies strip your armor in 1-2 shots regardless of build)

So many better ways they could have done it

[misty mason]

One of my favourite aspects is that they bound I think interact next to the button for grenade

In a stealth based game

tries to pick up loot bag
Throws grenade into a room full of hostages

[dark zealot]

oh wait i didnt mention the best achievement in 3

there is one for sliding x distance

oh i also found a part of the map on the first heist where i could get cash bags to be out of bounds

[vocal pulsar]

come to strike team 50 @coarse birch

[dark zealot]

the other stupid way to troll people was massacring 60+ civs right at the start

and well forcing it to go loud

so just remember even if you bad players in darktide, they cant just make you lose half the ordos etc in the first 5s

[misty mason]

laughs in demonhost

[dark zealot]

||yes in order to test both of these i did multiple runs of the first heist in public matches, there was 100% new players I trolled||

[lofty elk]

should I buy this? only have 6k left but its kind of a great roll

[exotic portal]

any way to test wound builds without mods?

[visual stream]

God forbid you play with randoms on the cryptocurrency nightclub mission

[north sedge]

besides playing an actual game no

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaa-gif-24210192

[median steeple]

By the old blood I'm tweaking

[visual stream]

"YOU WENT LOUD, THE ENTIRETY OF EVERYTHING YOU CAME HERE FOR IS GONE BUT YOU CAN STILL GRAB SOME RANDOM MONEY BAGS IF YOU WANT 🗣🗣"

[north sedge]

install them mods

[dark zealot]

play on the highest difficulty you feel comfortable and do what? 10-20 runs and count the winrate

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/chucky-homestuck-middle-finger-fuck-you-scary-gif-3424110

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-pig-reagan-mask-darmine-gif-6743568957181143062

[bold gust]

What are the modifiers to look out for a Heavy Eviscerator?

[dark zealot]

that mission just sucks, loud or silent its just not fun

[dark zealot]

dmg, pen, shredder?

[north sedge]

basically just dump mobi like everything else

[vestal spade]

its not bad but idk, im not a big fan of bloodletter myself. cara and t3 blessings mean its a bit gimped unless you are happy with only being able to change 2 perks/blessings

[visual stream]

Fr

Silent that never turns loud at any point is just boring

[lofty elk]

on chainsword you likely want that help with carapace and bloodletter I think unless you want to fully focus on wave clear

[bold gust]

Aight ty

[lofty elk]

but I guess if you run chainsword you want the full horde clear

[vestal spade]

getting stuck in special anim with CS isnt great vs crushers for me

ok if its a single on his own

[exotic portal]

Saw one guy, loaded in a plauge, molested the thing.
knife build.

[vestal spade]

you can dodge out of it now, but you lose the rip proc

but if you make a build and it fits you could run with it.

[north sedge]

if you're doing chainsword you should be doing sweep rampage pretty much, if you really want single target sawing action, roll a chaxe

or mk15 evisc i guess

[wraith helm]

[lofty elk]

these are all the guns in the game?

[dark zealot]

yes

there are varients for each but its just a skin with preset mods

[dark zealot]

your pfp is synthetik right?

[lofty elk]

yes

[dark zealot]

thought i recognised it

[wraith helm]

An objectively better game than payday 3

[lofty elk]

want to see some synthetik 2 guns?

[dark zealot]

sure why not

[lofty elk]

Redguard, Raiders and Defiance

[opal star]

oh my goddness gracious

[wraith helm]

They brought back the 420 sniper rifle

[lofty elk]

Machine Military

[lusty turtle]

i think i still prefer synthetic 1

[dark zealot]

they know how to do an aesthetic

[lofty elk]

I got like 4 more but dont want to spam so much

Soviet Brotherhood

[dark zealot]

i got all three but got into it through arena

[lusty turtle]

you can always just link their page, psure they have most of these listed

[dark zealot]

im not that good though

[lofty elk]

no these are secret actually you are the first to see them

the wallpapers I mean

[wraith helm]

All these guns and PD3 only came out with one page of guns that sound like fart blasters

[dark zealot]

warthunder leaks be like

[misty mason]

How is lumgd today

[dark zealot]

oh yeah the car 4 starter gun in pd3 feels utterly garbage to use

just like in pd2

[wraith helm]

Ay, car 4 in pd2 actually wasnt too bad.

At least with perks it carried it

[dark zealot]

problem one even at low level you could get straight up far better guns

[median steeple]

Speaking of war thunder leaks

They leaked the eurofighter

[lusty turtle]

coulda sworn they posted these in dev logs

might just been individuals tho

[lofty elk]

yes the weapons are ingame, the wallpaper is not public tho

only the 420 sniperdragon is not yet in the game and the Saiga lightning autoshotgun these are spoilers

[dark zealot]

the russian psyop is working

[sharp zodiac]

Been a while, wouldn't hurt to pick up the heavy sword again

[spare talon]

yall wanna see the dumbest fucking thing

[sharp zodiac]

Sure

[spare talon]

i also hit a milestone by completing this mission

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/picsou-scrooge-duck-coins-gold-gif-6105586

[vestal spade]

the real question is how have you managed to have less diamantine than plas?

[buoyant pecan]

Skelly use your connections to make them fix the Plasma Audio bug

[north sedge]

I've done the same, it's a skill (no idea)

[lusty turtle]

already tryin dw

[buoyant pecan]

Nice

Mod of the year

[north sedge]

But leave the ghost shots

[vocal pulsar]

@royal vortex

[spare talon]

by getting most of the blessings i need via melk and mission rewards

so ive not spent as much mats as other people by being generally patient

(and using the same build for months at a time before i make a new one)

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/civ92w @vocal pulsar

[dark zealot]

most patient zealot player

[dark zealot]

weird looking zealot gameplay

[spare talon]

now that i think about it

i should probably make more than 1 variant of dclaw

ive literally only used the mk4

ever

[vestal spade]

yeah i dont have that kind of commitment to a single game. i need to swap weapons or char reg

[dark zealot]

tbf isnt it the good dclaw?

[spare talon]

i love this moveset yes

[royal vortex]

the 4 and the 7 are both ok

[spare talon]

but i also see people like josho use other kinds

i think another regular uses the 1

[royal vortex]

the 1 used to be really good when the sweeps were so stupid strong

• rampage bug

[spare talon]

the stab push attack on yours seems way more useful than the 100 dmg overhead

but i think i would also miss sprint canceling between enemies with an h1 overhead

[royal vortex]

the push attack combo is cool

[spare talon]

one shotting everything short of elites and bucketheads

huh neat

[royal vortex]

pog

[spare talon]

i do like the mk9s moveset better tho (crazy i know, the exact same as the dc4)

[dark zealot]

whats the recommended heavy sword?

[royal vortex]

any of them

[hushed knoll]

Hello Josho

[royal vortex]

hi stan

[hushed knoll]

How was ur gaming sesh

[royal vortex]

ongoing

but so far has been fruitful

we ran 3 maelstroms and got like 240k dockets

[north sedge]

Tantric gaming

[royal vortex]

it was pog

[median steeple]

You're wrong! Sulfuric acid!

[hushed knoll]

What

[hushed knoll]

[dark zealot]

i need to start doing harder missions for the extra ordos

but the problem is i need the plas as well

[sharp zodiac]

I missed being able to just one shot most ragers in a horde

That felt good

Barely even moved my aiming stick

[ornate bone]

Jack, does the push attack or light strikedown deal a non-zero carapace damage?

[frank night]

Jack

[south folio]

Jack

[cyan stirrup]

is this worth using for damnation if i swap the blessings for surgical+hand cannon?

[polar nexus]

totally

[fading vale]

yeah

[polar nexus]

reload speed is not even bad

[fading vale]

goose

[wraith helm]

The crit damage alone can replace maniac with reload speed

[royal vortex]

yes

[ornate bone]

real and true

[woeful oyster]

I just want you nerds to know...that if you don't take 12% CAR on your curios...I'll shine brighter than you ever will...

[dark zealot]

least controversial curios

[ripe quest]

@vocal pulsar The reference

[rotund atlas]

good?

[sharp zodiac]

Just need surgi

And I'd bonesly reckon to upgrade hc

Then you're good

[rotund atlas]

can i peel surgical off of a boltgun and apply it to this? or does it need to be from the same weapon

[sharp zodiac]

Same weapon type

So no

[rotund atlas]

ok

thx

[coarse birch]

bonesly

[sharp zodiac]

My neighbor

[misty mason]

Oh a wild Cult Sim pfp

How goes the Mansus

[fading vale]

with 3 shit curios powers combined, I am captain planet

[misty mason]

Lazorr confirmed to have a mullet

[fading vale]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-planet-planet-captain-planet-and-the-planeteers-you-gif-13264293

[misty mason]

Real footage of Lazorr

[fading vale]

I'm here to cleanse the bad takes and misinformation corruption

[misty mason]

Remember to watch out for Captain Lazorr's rival, Spider Toe Stan

[misty mason]

Jesus christ

[violet hornet]

what in the fuck

[misty mason]

Read this and not feel like you're not having a stroke challenge

Tzeentch out here telling Stan to tone down the weird

[fading vale]

this was like 2 days ago

[misty mason]

Why is Stan

[visual stream]

Least ambiguous Tzeentchian speech

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-stuttering-meme-have-you-ever-had-dreams-you-do-so-much-you-could-do-everything-gif-16991242

Real child Stan footage

[topaz vale]

Are these stats good for this hammer? And if so, what blessings and perks should I prioritise?

[misty mason]

Stats good, everything else bad

[spare talon]

i just got lightly tapped off of a cliff with solid ground below the cliff
probably 50 fall damage, max
resulted in a cliffhanger

[topaz vale]

darn. time to reroll?

[misty mason]

It has no meta perks or blessings unfortunately

Yeah probs

[spare talon]

a vet got knocked off by a poxburster off the same edge 10 seconds later
survived

[misty mason]

You want Thrust and Slaughterer

[visual stream]

Reminds me of this one spot near mission start of one of the factory missions where there's a ledge LITERALLY 10 feet below where you are, and if you get ledged above it then you just awkwardly fall down a few feet limp

Kinda funny

[spare talon]

they fixed that one tho

this is the left side of the stairs after the mid event of oubliette

[topaz vale]

should i just go with the ironhelm instead? ive rolled 50 of these things and theyve all been under 350

[spare talon]

where youd fall to the floor below

[north sedge]

Hammer is just a pain to roll

[ripe quest]

Skullcrusher will be normalized. Calling it.

[north sedge]

Still would be pain to roll

[ripe quest]

It'd bump the number of blessings used from 3 to 4 at the very least

Still would be Thrust reliant though which is the hardest part.

[visual stream]

Good to hear considering I haven't done that mission in forever

[spare talon]

ive just endures one of the shittiest games in quite some time

i love being grabbed by a chaos spawn multiple times in a row because my dodge kept me completely in place when there was nothing to block me in the direction i dodged

i also love how fire on the ground can affect you when youre being held far above it

really makes the first part feel even better

[misty mason]

Oof yeah, getting dragged/held in fire when you're not pinned blows

[royal vortex]

i unironically cannot believe there exists classes in this game that dont get TWBS

[misty mason]

Olll crutchy Josho

Needing TWBS crutch

[royal vortex]

i am brought to the brink of insanity playing deadshot bolter vet with only confirmed kill

[spare talon]

this also happened in the same game

[royal vortex]

just stop fucking

PUSHING ME AROUND

PLEASE

im gonna name this build the maldinator

sharpshooter vet is an experience of extreme highs and catastrophically depressing lows

[spare talon]

and this was in the same game too

beast turns around and somehow that causes me to be unable to dodge or move in any capacity to the right

[tribal root]

Game didn't want you to trip over the tip of the burgles tail

[hushed knoll]

WHAT IS THIS

[spare talon]

so counting, in order

1. dog looking the other direction quite literally teleports on top of me
2. was counted as hanging from a cliff that someone else got blown off of and lived
3. beast doin a lil spin prevents literally all movement whatsoever
4. multiple chaos spawn grabs into fire because an unblocked dodge kept me in place each and every single time

all in that one game

im really fucking bothered after that

[coarse birch]

Im glad josho got hit with what i keep getting hit with solely so i know its not just me being bad

And that gunners are just cringe

[royal vortex]

zealot is so smooth

life is always good

why play other classes

[summer moth]

melks vile temptations

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/rustled-jimmies-ape-gif-5490983

[summer moth]

do i cop this tho

[south folio]

tthy grenade be swift pretty please

[coarse birch]

yeah i used to think TWBS was a crutch it it can be but at the same time

i want to enjoy playing the video game

[spare talon]

gunners staggering before toughness is broken is still a bug right

[south folio]

cringe

[spare talon]

i see so few people talking about it that i dont even know if its a bug or just how it works, since ive used twbs for so long

[polar nexus]

Using twbs makes my experience on other characters worse 😦

[misty mason]

I just don't run it and win anyway

[royal vortex]

anyways

they ruined bolter

😦

it fkin uploaded twice

no

fk u

[misty mason]

Bolter literally unplayable

[royal vortex]

im going to reupload it and it will be correct

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-embed-failure-epic-embed-fail-double-embed-fail-gif-23538127

[royal vortex]

[misty mason]

I wonder if they'll announce anything this week

Been awhile

[north sedge]

Announce the announcement

[misty mason]

Truly a 2024 moment

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/e94e59

there we go

[hushed knoll]

Thank God you are mystery again

Praise be

[coarse birch]

no dude you dont understand i needed to be completely invincible while also doubling my damage by holding down the trigger

[royal vortex]

killing 4 crushers in one mag is bad because um

reload speed

draw time

[coarse birch]

do it in a real game

[royal vortex]

they need to remove any unique downsides that do not solely rely on being bad at dealing damage to certain armor types

[polar nexus]

bolter bad, cannot kill 100 crushers

[royal vortex]

😔

[spare talon]

i never use the bolter or know much about its current state so i cant tell if this is sarcasm or not

[royal vortex]

it is

[coarse birch]

its actually fine

[royal vortex]

i am p sick of redditors who want to basically remove weapon identity

[coarse birch]

you just need to like

[royal vortex]

because they personally don't like it

[coarse birch]

use your brain

[spare talon]

about being the blow your load weapon

[royal vortex]

the draw time/reload speed is a fundamental characteristic of the bolter that makes it feel like the weapon it is supposed to be

and u know whats crazy

if u use it like a primary weapon... ur not constantly dealing with the bad draw time... because u shoot it

[minor sage]

eh i think i would wanna see

how the guns look

after scav is removed/gutted

before proposing nerfs/buffs

cuz it'll change the entire landscape

[spare talon]

whats scav
survivalist?

[royal vortex]

fatshark is dying on the hill of survivalist

who knows

[minor sage]

ye i think the 2 biggest issues with the game rn

is scav and crafting

they're probably tackling those next

[royal vortex]

i mean vet should have ammo regen tied to keystones

ngl

[coarse birch]

id hope they take care of surv but idk if they do

[royal vortex]

but as a self buff

[minor sage]

give marksman focus "weakspot kills refund ammo to you"

and remove scav

ez

[polar nexus]

well, it's one of the reason i usually do not take an iag on zealot or psyker if i qp into auric, you never know if there's a vet with ammo aura

[royal vortex]

i just take the ammo i need

ppl really do not loot most of the time

[coarse birch]

i dont have an ammo issue much on psyker with iag

[polar nexus]

yeah that too is concerning... people do not go search for plasteel

[royal vortex]

psyker gets assail which is like gun pt 2

[coarse birch]

yeah

i can just assail

[polar nexus]

and i won't do a boring lo int to farm...

[coarse birch]

and melee

[polar nexus]

yeah true

[coarse birch]

esp cause i run scriers/DD so i get closing speed

[spare talon]

i mean it doesnt have to be low int

just run damnation quick play

[minor sage]

sometimes i queue into high int when i queue auric qp

and i leave

cuz high int by itself is so boring lol

or dogs

hi int or hi int dogs are so boring

[polar nexus]

i must say i see the difference quite fast

[royal vortex]

running aurics with at least 1 other competent teammate lets u get some p cool mats numbers

if i was really tryin i could get 10k plasteel in a day

[polar nexus]

like, hmm, my ass is not full of holes, it's not hisg

[misty mason]

Do aurics give a bonus to resources over damnation?

Maybe I should be trying to QP those

[royal vortex]

ordos

[minor sage]

no lol

[royal vortex]

which is the real bottleneck

[minor sage]

aurics are just

more fun

[misty mason]

I feel like I wont get any games

[spare talon]

when you realize youve only seen 2 trappers and your halfway through the mission

[royal vortex]

an i-ii-v-e-g maelstrom gives like 80k+

[misty mason]

Ah yeah

[royal vortex]

which is just

[minor sage]

cuz regular damn is sooo boring

[royal vortex]

nuts

we ran one 3 times and made over 200k in an hour

big value

[minor sage]

ye i just gave up on trying to optimize for income

[polar nexus]

there's no ordo bottleneck where you are above 14M

[minor sage]

i just purely play for adrenaline now

yep

[polar nexus]

i am rich and i stay rich

[minor sage]

i think i'm in the same spot as keet

i have like

[royal vortex]

i was rich before p15

[minor sage]

everything i want

[polar nexus]

plasteel...

[royal vortex]

and then i dropped like 13 million ordos before running out

still have more than enough plasteel

[minor sage]

ngl

we're all just kinda waiting

for the next tier of crafting

[north sedge]

mr. josho i have a question

[royal vortex]

are u going to ask me to buy more crushers

i do not want to buy more crushers

[polar nexus]

well, that's another story since i blew 40k plasteel on revolvers and iag after the update

[spare talon]

yeah i have nothing i really wanna make
14.7m ordos and 201k plasteel

[north sedge]

ye-noooo?

[rigid trellis]

I'm waiting for them to pull their heads out of hadrons ass and do something with the system before I spend more mats

[royal vortex]

i have p much ran out of shit to make that isnt like the mgiv

[coarse birch]

do it

[royal vortex]

and i am not using a gun that is literally

The Full Auto Mod's Reason For Existing™️

laspistol is my limit

[coarse birch]

i swear its fun

[royal vortex]

no

[coarse birch]

😔

[polar nexus]

i went for 17M to 13 trying to get duelling swords, autoguns, revolvers...

[north sedge]

i made a knife like two weeks ago out of boredom, to see why people like the dumb thing, took it into psykanium and immediately hated it and have done nothing with it

[royal vortex]

the less i craft the luckier i get

[ripe quest]

Slow clunky weapon that shits out damage is up there in the top 3 weapon archetypes and redditors don't want it.

[spare talon]

i do feel like i need to make a knife that doesnt have bleed on it

[coarse birch]

minus plasma

[polar nexus]

or your teamates do not die fast

[coarse birch]

they love plasma

[misty mason]

It is wild to me seeing vets running knife now too

[spare talon]

this is the one i have now

[royal vortex]

i almost uninstalled for half a year when my mk xix shovel that was perfect was a handful of stat %s away from one-shotting poxwalkers to proc bm

[spare talon]

i should get one with precog or riposte

[royal vortex]

and then hadron handed me another perfect one with better stats

[ripe quest]

idk they sniff plasma or something.

[coarse birch]

plasma is also like

[royal vortex]

plasma is incredibly user friendly if u just lmb spam

[coarse birch]

the easiest thing to use ever

[royal vortex]

actual baby tier weapon

[ripe quest]

Does anyone have a like, descript comparison between plasma and boltgun?

[royal vortex]

they ruined my boy

[spare talon]

now they can speed their way to dying to the first rager that gets near them

[royal vortex]

before it was like the hipster's gun

and then they massacred it

and did whatever the fuck this is to it

[coarse birch]

i loved pre patch plasma

[rigid trellis]

one induces brain rot the other is a boltgun

[coarse birch]

now it feels

souless

[ripe quest]

All I've seen has been "ohh plasma is strictly better" but I want to see actual numbers.

[misty mason]

If you go all in on the weapon swap talents plasma + rashad goes INCREDIBLY hard

[royal vortex]

post "eats into toughness instead of hp on quell" buff it was cool

[misty mason]

hang on Ill see if I can find my stupidest numbers ive ever done

[royal vortex]

a bolter with the proper build will one-tap ragers etc

[polar nexus]

i made 3 shovels. I have 3 godrolls with the perks and blessing you want. Each one is better than the one before. Ogryn is my most bang for the buck character.

[royal vortex]

plasma is really good value on stuff in a conga line

but the fire rate is gonna make it more annoying on stuff thats spread out

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-conga-conga-line-dance-dancing-gif-19232930

[misty mason]

There it is

[polar nexus]

i don't like the phantom hits on plasma

it's like, did i kill it or not?

[royal vortex]

compressed air can

[polar nexus]

oh yeah it exploded

[royal vortex]

at least they fixed the charge rate bug

i wish i had fatshark's ear because i p much wanna do a total plasma rework

[misty mason]

Oh yeah the phantom shots are annoying

[royal vortex]

the gun does not work how it should

because u know what

[misty mason]

Message crab

[polar nexus]

it's xbox controller friendly

[misty mason]

He has the inside scoop

[royal vortex]

it can be super low mechanical skill projectile the size of a fkin tree trunk

but it should be the thinking man's gun

make this shit philosophical

and make the left click/right click have different uses

i want it to have more in common with a psyker staff

than another gun

[polar nexus]

i wonder if that's the suppression that does that, i should test it with determined

[coarse birch]

the right click also doesnt so anything

[ripe quest]

What are plasmas doing in the lore that's different to what we have right now?

[south folio]

the right click being the same as it is currently is prob fine as the cool ultimate piercing shot but more ammo/heat and then something different for lmb maybe

[misty mason]

Killing more guardsmen

[royal vortex]

having charged shots that u have a reason to use

[ripe quest]

Because I'd like smth like a low cleave laser but I imagine that isn't lore friendly.

[south folio]

no you will have a charged shot that is less ammo efficient than the lmb

[royal vortex]

i want them to completely separate the damage profiles

so u p much have to charge for carapace/unyielding damage

absolutely nuke the cleave on left click

it's 50

which is just absurdly high

bring it down to like 4-5

[misty mason]

By lore, Plasma probably shouldnt have the amount of cleave that it has, but if they took that away and made it more of a BLAP gun, it'd probably run onto the Lucius' territory due to the lack of true precision weapons

[ripe quest]

Would it be outlandish to suggest that the primary gets it's old cleave and then the right click gets more cleave the longer you charge it in addition to a damage increase?

[royal vortex]

then u can probably also drop the right click cleave to 50 at max

[south folio]

that's what i'm thinking as well yeah

[royal vortex]

yea

[south folio]

no it's very necessary that I be able to hit 10 scab ragers in a shot

[royal vortex]

madness

[ripe quest]

with 0 damage falloff I presume

[south folio]

just a hater

OHHHH DAMAGE FALLOFF

right that's a thing

lmao most ranged weapons not having any cleave damage falloff at all

[ripe quest]

I find it funny that Lawby actually has that as a balancing factor with Man-Stopper since it has damage falloff on the special shot

though unintentional

[south folio]

unintentional?

[royal vortex]

i also feel like they need to make the heat system on plasma a lil less like

pointless

[coarse birch]

it had some point

[ripe quest]

I don't know the exact thing behind it but the snippets I've heard is that it's somehow related to a melee swing?

[fleet zealot]

i got this fashion sense

[coarse birch]

when managing it mattered

[fleet zealot]

i want plasma to be rebinded

but i dont wantt change my binds

each time i use the waepon

[south folio]

what on god's green earth

[royal vortex]

there's 2 blessings that interact with heat and its just like

eh

volatile and gets hot are not super interesting

[coarse birch]

i dont hate gets hot

[ripe quest]

All I understand is that it's probs staying and it equates to a very slight damage falloff with Man-Stopper and I think that is actually kinda needed

[royal vortex]

im not a big fan of frontloading all crit synergy into a single blessing

[ripe quest]

Man-Stopper does so much work on Lawby already lol

[misty mason]

They could probably make it have a projectile speed and limited range

[south folio]

yeah cleave damage falloff is a nice balancing mechanic

[misty mason]

Like have it shoot a glob of plasma

Instead of being a fucking railgun

[royal vortex]

its probs gonna stay a railgun

until they come around to plasma as one of the guns they give more variants to

[misty mason]

Yeah I just mean, to keep lore/fantasy compliant

Make it like the Space Marine plasma guns

[ripe quest]

I'd actually rather have a hitscan weapon because I don't think Fatshark's hitbox system would like a giant ball of plasma

[misty mason]

Shoots a big glob of gatorade

[royal vortex]

we need more projectile weapons

[ripe quest]

we already had issues with the throwing knife lol

[fleet zealot]

i wonder

[royal vortex]

let my zealot use a crossbow

[fleet zealot]

what will flamer variants do

[misty mason]

fax

[south folio]

plasma gun but voidstrike but plasmagun but voidstrike butt

[sharp zodiac]

Hah

Butt

[ripe quest]

100% they're gonna be boring with it and do Lasgun balancing.

[royal vortex]

i would like a hand flamer

[ripe quest]

One has higher totals, one has higher DPS, maybe one has the most range

[misty mason]

My guess is more damage, less dot

[south folio]

ground fire flamer pwetty pwease

[ripe quest]

They could be cool and do that yeah

[misty mason]

Or less cleave, more damage

[royal vortex]

kid named immolation grenades

[ripe quest]

fuckin Tox Flamer

[ripe quest]

Oh that would be instant garbo

[fleet zealot]

like, ground flame, maybe right click is a fire projectile

[ripe quest]

idk

[fleet zealot]

or left click

[ripe quest]

The unlimited cleave part of the Flamer is a huge selling point

[fleet zealot]

napalm blast

[misty mason]

idk, faster TTK, but less cleave could be OK

[polar nexus]

I must say. Getting the one shot BP with L1 on both bruisers with a caxe is a pain. I think I'll just content myself with the dreg one and find another solution

[ripe quest]

Martyr

[misty mason]

Decimator should get you there

[ripe quest]

Or just use Achlys and the H1 lol

[misty mason]

But that takes a bunch of stacks soo

[polar nexus]

No with no stacks

And no martyr

On the vet, even with all the melee nodes I am quite close, I need to kill the scab with a heavy. Or proce agile engagement just before.

[north sedge]

ok but when will they make flamer good

[summer moth]

what blessings for knife

riposte any good

[misty mason]

check the pins boyo

[polar nexus]

I think I need stacks as well on zealot...

[fleet zealot]

uncanny+ riposte or executor

[polar nexus]

Executor on the 6 probably.

[south folio]

bad weapon with worse users (mankar)

[visual stream]

They should make a flamer that utilizes white phosphorus

Sticks to enemies and floor and spreads dot on contact

Also why are most "special actions" on weapons in this game boring

[maiden path]

erm hello zealot chat

[visual stream]

Erm whussup dud

[polar nexus]

i like the knife, it's just half the zealot using it are bad, and almost all the vets i have seen with it are very good

like psykers

[north sedge]

half is generous

[visual stream]

Psyker knife build with scrier's, is it theoretically good

[polar nexus]

because they do not try to tank a horde with it

[visual stream]

I don't enjoy knife but curious if that would be a take that would work

[north sedge]

i've seen like 4 people total good with knife and all of em were zealot

[visual stream]

Still yet to see one

[north sedge]

that's pretty normal

[sterile dune]

swap hand cannon and +stam?

[polar nexus]

no

[visual stream]

Ya know, I tried shotgun earlier

Kant complain

[polar nexus]

just get crucian instead of speedload and elites / flak / maniac instead of stam

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/kant-immanuel-kant-no-you-kant-philosophy-gif-16359244

[sterile dune]

Ok, was thinking at least rend could be useful

[polar nexus]

rend is useful, you want to keep it

now you need to get the most crits possible

[sterile dune]

I'm running on a gunker so crit chance is high

[royal vortex]

i had a knife zealot earlier who used the "look there" ping every time he got disabled/downed

[polar nexus]

so either crucian or point blank

[royal vortex]

even if it was just a mutie

and when a boss spawned he ran ahead and got himself downed immediately

he was marty too and he died so many times

[polar nexus]

wait, i do that too

[misty mason]

The best thing about Kant is saying his name correctly

[polar nexus]

so that people don't get fucked by the trapper

[royal vortex]

he would get mutied

and ping it

i have never seen anyone do this before

[polar nexus]

ohhhh

[royal vortex]

it wasnt just like pinging the disabler

which is fine

its the "i think im so important i want everyone to drop what im doing because a fucking mutant grabbed me"

[sterile dune]

haha

[royal vortex]

when he'd get netted or go down i'd start walking over to him and staring at his body

then walking away

[sterile dune]

yeah running knife without uncanny is kind of scary

[polar nexus]

last night

[royal vortex]

when he ran off during the bossfight i asked if he was mentally challenged

he did not reply

well i waited until he went down

[polar nexus]

maybe you crossed a line

[royal vortex]

because u know what if u wanna go pull a bunch of gunners and not die thats fine

but like he legit waited until it was a boss spawn to do the knife zealot thing and run ahead

[polar nexus]

i had worse for just asking a question

fucking drunk aussies

[royal vortex]

ppl be wild

[polar nexus]

if it's not malice lvl players it's racist dipshits talking about 9/11

[visual stream]

Still think it's crazy that some dude all caps'd the n word with a hard r in the middle of the Mourningstar

[royal vortex]

me and yoshi keep getting this ogryn with a racist name

he's terrible

reminds me of the dude who said he wanted to burn down fatshark hq because his zealot was renamed "duncan"

after he named it "deus vult"

[visual stream]

What is it? I think I've matched with him before

[royal vortex]

biggiesmalls but uh

u know

with an n

[polar nexus]

deus vult?

[visual stream]

Oh. Nope, I got a different one

[polar nexus]

what's that

[ornate bone]

damn bro

[misty mason]

😑

[south folio]

different racist ogryn 😔

[royal vortex]

there's so many racist ogryns

i swear to god

[sterile dune]

haha which frankly is probably accurate

[visual stream]

Ogryns are either wholesome larpers or obnoxious trailer trash

[north sedge]

it is impressive that 90% of ogryns have a hard R name

[visual stream]

That's it

[misty mason]

ogRyn

[royal vortex]

it's something like "god's will" in latin but its used a lot for the stupid crusader larp memes

[misty mason]

God wills it

[royal vortex]

idk why exactly he got his name changed but he had a full on meltdown

[polar nexus]

oh?

[royal vortex]

which was the funny part

[sterile dune]

this game is ultra toxic sometimes for sure. usually you get a ambigiously gay duo who decides to troll you the entire match or vote to kick you if you ever say anything in chat at all

[misty mason]

It's a dogwhistle for being anti islam

[royal vortex]

yea

with some of the shit that gets through im surprised his name was changed tbf

[polar nexus]

a ambigiously gay duo > that's Josho and Lazorr

[misty mason]

Which is a shame, because it was a funny meme before it got co-opted

[royal vortex]

lmao

[polar nexus]

man i wish i had saved that pic

[misty mason]

Especially since it had the implicit funniness of the Crusaders being the biggest bunch of fuck ups ever

[polar nexus]

no shirt bonking duo bros

[tropic harbor]

Honestly I usually don’t have problems with other players being jerks in this game

[polar nexus]

so deus vult

it's basically inchallah

[tropic harbor]

Only had one or two assholes

[royal vortex]

i keep getting like sea sponge tier psyker players

which is fine

but i also keep getting these like weirdly overconfident but also incredibly dumb knife zealots

who are trying their hardest to play in an antisocial way

[south folio]

i keep getting people who complain about me not being in coherency whenever i'm looting

even though nothing bad has happened

like, i haven't gotten disabled and needed to be helped up

and i regroup during engagements

[polar nexus]

i don't understand helbore vet not taking ammo aura

[south folio]

and i've met 3 people so far who've made a comment on my lack of presence despite the match going well and at a good pace

[fleet zealot]

people over value coherency especially in situations it isn't needed in

[polar nexus]

i mean, you will go left of center... so do you really need that 5 dmg or speed mvmt?

[fleet zealot]

line of sight is better

[coarse birch]

ngl i could care less is people are together so long as they can handle themselves

[south folio]

i would understand it if i got disabled a bunch

[royal vortex]

i literally only care about coherency when someone is making us wait at an airlock

[south folio]

like it's fair to complain and whatnot

[royal vortex]

or when the knife zealot dipshit with a personality disorder logs on

[south folio]

but motherfucker nothing bad has happened

[royal vortex]

and gets himself killed

[south folio]

shut up and enjoy your plasteel

[coarse birch]

like being together is def something i overvalued at first

[fleet zealot]

yea

like the zealot i got mad at

we were fighting a cspawn and an elite pack of crushers and maulers

[royal vortex]

im genuinely honored to have a shitty pub knife zealot block me

[fleet zealot]

and he was off running in narnia

[royal vortex]

ur saving a spot on my block list... what a guy

[south folio]

slow ass bitch

[fleet zealot]

ended the game with like 180k damage

[royal vortex]

dude

did u see the scoreboard

both him and me had bolters

look at the ranged damage

[fleet zealot]

do you have loadout mod/saw his loadout

[south folio]

because bolter bad

[fleet zealot]

he could ebr unning a shit bolter

[royal vortex]

i watched him magdump into poxwalkers

i am almost completely certain it was more of an operator error than a gun problem

[south folio]

nah
bolter bad

i have severe brain damage

[royal vortex]

lmao

[tropic harbor]

Did he play so badly he decided to block everyone?

[royal vortex]

i flamed him a lil

ngl

so i get it

[fleet zealot]

sounds like the type of person to not install scoreboard

if they lose, it's cause team=bad

they feel they are doing good and carrying therefore

it is a valid way of playing

[royal vortex]

[north sedge]

scoreboard is toxic thats why i dont install it, anyway i ragequit whenever i think people are doing poorly

[zealous basin]

guys what did she mean by this

[polar nexus]

bolter very bad

needs a buff

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/mju5zg

[tropic harbor]

Well yeah being a toxic asshole is gonna get you blocked

Still though he’s a knife zealot so he deserves it

Now he’s gonna make a video of him soloing damnation missions with his knife to be petty

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[royal vortex]

is that the video where he eats a bunch of pizzas

or says he has

rather

[north sedge]

Yea

And it sounds like he's been eating nails and rocks for like 4 years

[royal vortex]

lmao

his hair is so greasy

[north sedge]

And sweaty and gross looking

[royal vortex]

he's turning into a pizza

[north sedge]

A real ogryn player

[royal vortex]

TRUE

[tropic harbor]

Typical knife zealot diet

[north sedge]

True

But he did get fired for a slur, that's ogryn territory tbf

[south folio]

racism is stored in the balls

[bronze phoenix]

why must luck continue to curse me

[fleet zealot]

wanna see something cool

[coarse birch]

thanks for you input arco

[half ruin]

What would be the best melee weapon to use with Fury of the Faithful?

[north sedge]

Any

[coarse birch]

yeah pick one

[half ruin]

Alright just got a thunder hammer hope this works

[north sedge]

Most hammer users around here use fury

[distant lark]

Zealot is butt

[polar nexus]

I did kill a plogryn with a knife between the cheeks

[ornate bone]

I'm just waiitng for a new update

I went back to VT2 just cos of how slow Fatshark is at updating Darktide

zz

[ripe quest]

@royal vortex I'm so close to unlocking 15 Crusher kills per mag.

[ornate bone]

How long can this go on

[north sedge]

It's been a little over a month, calm down

[bronze phoenix]

best before today was 25 for shocking

[ornate bone]

I am calm tho lol

[polar nexus]

what was the result of your sc + thrust test?

[royal vortex]

if only thrust cancelling still worked

[ornate bone]

Don't think I was implying that the world is ending with slow updates

VT2 took like
what, 2 years for Sienna's necro class?

[ripe quest]

That video is using a completely garbo build specced into killing as many Crushers as possible. Thrust + SC is super fun particularly on Ironhelm, with an outside source of stagger you can compete or even outcompete stuff like Chainsword and Hsword for crowd damage against Bruisers and Fodder. Also is really fun to combo with, particularly with Shotguns due to No Respite.

[coral smelt]

my darktide just started having extremely low framerate for no reason. Changing the graphics to low didnt help. Does anyone know why?

[ripe quest]

When was the last time you closed the game?

There are memory leak issues rn that pop up during extended sessions.

[sterile dune]

Lol I just got kicked from a group with 3 xbox players because I died ahead of them and they were super slow motion. I had most kills, damage, and boss dmg, and everything else. Can't help the pugs

Also check for windows antimalware scan. it'll just go off whenever it wants, or another antivirus

[coral smelt]

i been having this issue for like 2 days. I have tried reinstalling the game and that didnt help.

[spare dome]

Ambuscade the Crushers from behind

[sterile dune]

maybe do a ram test, ram isnt forever

[shadow ember]

If you're so fast why can you cycle back to the Xbox players?

[polar nexus]

in your video you use stun + a melee weapon with sc to proce it + rending stimm + pinning fire + shattering impact?

[royal vortex]

the missing link

[zealous basin]

hi

omgg

[ripe quest]

That video has Thunderous and SC on the Thammer (don't do this normally) and the Boltgun is running PF + Cavalcade.

[zealous basin]

:3

[long sluice]

That sucks. Not saying anything but this but most damage and kills does not = best performer.

[sterile dune]

I definitely agree, but it was a huge difference. More pointing out that groups can kick you for anything no matter if it makes sense or not

[polar nexus]

does crusher get thunderous?

[ripe quest]

no

[north sedge]

No

[polar nexus]

sad

[zealous basin]

the part u dont want to hear is that u have to play around ur team if all 3 are slow ur shit out of luck welcome to boring town

[ripe quest]

It'd be way too strong with Thunderous

[zealous basin]

but actually i agree fuck slow gamers

[polar nexus]

say that to ogryns

[ripe quest]

Ogryns are way too strong rn

I literally can

[fleet zealot]

i do not care

it would be fun

and crusher could use a bit of nerfs anyways

mainly to light spam

[sterile dune]

I wasn't even running super far ahead, just basically trying to keep a decent pace for damnation

[polar nexus]

ok but you could use a chaxe with thunderous

[zealous basin]

to be clear i agree with u

going slow is throwing

[ripe quest]

Chaxe has garbage ADMs for Thunderous synergy it's not the play unfortunately.

[coarse birch]

i know mankar vouches hard for it

might be worth discussing it with him

elites/cara and thrust/thunderous

cause it ticks with each chaxe hit on rev/heavy

but i have yet to test

[polar nexus]

yeah but not horde clear lol no?

[ripe quest]

His understanding of the blessing was that it procced on each tick of the rev which only would happen with Vet's on-bleed thing.

[sour hull]

[ripe quest]

I can kinda see it there, as it'll put out some nice Carapace damage.

[fleet zealot]

it's so niche

to go thunderous thrust chaxe

which completely ignores the weapons biggest strength

[polar nexus]

wait, there's a synergy with serrated blade and thunderous for vet?

[fleet zealot]

being able to run headtaker AND slaughterer

[ripe quest]

But on Zealot you can just have worse Carapace damage for the benefits of a self-buff instead of a debuff and better performance in other categories.

[coarse birch]

he means mk12

[ripe quest]

mhm

[coarse birch]

mk4 he runs headtaker/slaught

[ripe quest]

Bleed will tick Thunderous

wait

Thunderous on the Mk XII?

you 1 shot crushers with like, Thrust and one of the +Finesse talents iirc

[polar nexus]

that should work with skullcrusher on the claw too no?

[ripe quest]

Like, bleed applying Skullcrusher?

[polar nexus]

yes

[ripe quest]

SC only procs when you hit a staggered enemy.

[polar nexus]

which you can do with a claw7

and probably a shout

[ripe quest]

It'd be like, fine, but less of a synergy with just hitting something once and getting 4 hits of Thunderous up.

[polar nexus]

what about og chaxe then?

[ripe quest]

Mk IV can 1 shot Crushers too but it needs more buffs up, if you really want an easier kill on Crushers due to talent distribution you can make an argument for it.

[coarse birch]

i think he runs it for the sake of oneshotting everything without needs buffs/chastise

at least the chastise part

dont quote me on no buffs

[ripe quest]

You don't need an ult for either Chaxe on Vet or Zealot

[polar nexus]

thrust4 and carapace si enough i think

[ripe quest]

From base Mk XII Chaxe that setup leaves Crushers with 300 health.

You can do it with stat nodes

[coarse birch]

are you running elites

with cara

[polar nexus]

ooooh

yes i was

[ripe quest]

mhm

[polar nexus]

so that's probably why

[coarse birch]

id need him to give the run down then i dont wanna put words in his mouth or anything

[ripe quest]

Yeah that's fine.

I'm here to expand the meta not shun people, if I see him I'll ask about it.

[polar nexus]

exhil my question earlier was about the horde clear of sc instead of slaught or ht

[ripe quest]

On Chaxe or Thammer?

[polar nexus]

thammer

because you were onto something yesterday

and possibly boss dmg

[ripe quest]

mhm
Stun prior = best crowd damage that I've seen a melee weapon output
No stun = slightly better than Slaught

But there are some nuances

which is why I'm not telling people to run it just yet

[polar nexus]

punishement is enough stagger?

[ripe quest]

With boss damage in mind it'll be always worse than Slaught or Headtaker except against BoN due to a bug (you can like 2 shot them anyways though so 🤷) and in rare situations where a boss gets staggered and you ult into them. You'll get a +40% damage hit with that. Not super reliable but it's possible.

Punishment is super recommended yeah

also Grevious Wounds but only if you're interested in the ranged weapon comboing stuff

[polar nexus]

yeah it's worse unless you get slaughterer or ht stacks

which may or may not happen

[ripe quest]

It's infinitely easier to get either up before a Thammer hit

[polar nexus]

chastise stagger, so does chorus, so does a nade no?

[woeful oyster]

Yeah

[polar nexus]

i mean, i

[ripe quest]

Those inflict stagger yeah, but against a boss only Chorus will stagger them.

and you kinda like

lose the cool thammer ult thing

[woeful oyster]

Ogryn can truck em for a stagger as well

[ripe quest]

From what I understand of the timings bosses will exit stagger before you land a full Thrust hit

If you're being reactive

[woeful oyster]

It would be really tight of a window

[polar nexus]

i will gladly get more horde clear if my most common scenario is only counting of thrust for boss dmg

[ripe quest]

coordinated you could do it but like, who is doing that

[woeful oyster]

GL with that anywhere but in a premade

[ripe quest]

Well again there are nuances.

[woeful oyster]

But that is mmo raid mentality stuff

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/0nzxtw

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lurking-gif-22179921

[polar nexus]

wdym?

[ripe quest]

Josho you and your posse are like top 0.5% I can't take that as an example

Though DH would be the easiest to do it on now that I think about it

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[ripe quest]

but also DH health

[royal vortex]

we didn't even time it properly to make use of scrusher im p sure

[ripe quest]

Was that a SC thammer?

[royal vortex]

no

[ripe quest]

mm

[royal vortex]

i may or may not have had skullcrusher on that basher

[coarse birch]

dont call him top 0.5% youll massage his ego

[royal vortex]

regardless it got nuked

[royal vortex]

wtf

the 200iq part of that clip is laz hitting the dh with a light to proc momentum

[ripe quest]

Mankar carries the avg up from 1% to 0.5%

[zealous basin]

josho is top 0.5% most fem

amongst all boys

[royal vortex]

mankar is the insurance policy

his internet doesnt normally shit itself

[coarse birch]

wait what is this saying about me 🤨

smhmh

[polar nexus]

jumping lazz

[ripe quest]

That josho is the team's anchor I have no quarrels with you.

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/l56a5j

[zealous basin]

josho

[coarse birch]

oh thanks exhil

[zealous basin]

femboy

https://tenor.com/view/big-shoe-lmfao-big-shoe-lmfao-gif-21655557

[royal vortex]

i am playing an entirely different game than other ppl sometimes

yesterday or the day before it was existential horror

[fleet zealot]

called /j

[ripe quest]

so like, SC outdamaging Slaught is under the assumption you can hit as many enemies as possible. The big max big damage stuff is only happening with a stun or a prior CC from an external source and hitting a bunch of enemies.

[zealous basin]

josho

[royal vortex]

flip

[zealous basin]

hi :3

[royal vortex]

shalom

[ripe quest]

I cannot yet vouch for SC being better on avg compared to Slaught or even Headtaker.

Just that it has higher peak performance

[coarse birch]

josho "dont ask what he spawned into everytime after the 3rd disconnect challenge"

[fleet zealot]

but SC isn't power

is it?

[ripe quest]

If you got like a Pissblade or Illisi user on your team chances are your SC stuff will lose potency.

[ripe quest]

It's damage yeah

[royal vortex]

pissblade

[ripe quest]

but 80% damage

[coarse birch]

nothing like a good pissblade

[royal vortex]

EAUISDJHGN';fsdikhbjnfx;szkjbnasfkl/xjb fasd

jkL?"BNjgadfl

'/bjgedfk

[polar nexus]

pissblade?

[coarse birch]

damn josho

[ripe quest]

power sword

[royal vortex]

fuck u

[polar nexus]

pee sword?

[coarse birch]

i didnt think it was that serious

[royal vortex]

[polar nexus]

ok so

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/fwfa9x

[polar nexus]

if you play sc thammer

[royal vortex]

3 bursters in a row

[ripe quest]

Also Thammer has the highest base cleave values afaik on heavies they are mega juiced

[royal vortex]

was smth else

[ripe quest]

like 16.5 by default

• thrust

which is 60% power

[polar nexus]

you want a crusher chorus, a shout vet and an ogryn

[coarse birch]

i dont like this clip because i get bodied by 8 ragers in it

[ripe quest]

absolutely huge cleave moment

[royal vortex]

this was another one of the moments where the game attempted an assassination

[ripe quest]

mmm that might be overdoing it

[polar nexus]

i remember telopots saying that horde clear on ironhelm was cracked

[woeful oyster]

It's supposed to be

[ripe quest]

The special fully charged Thrust heavies do big damage

[polar nexus]

i mean, a shout vet or a club ogryn are kinda common

[ripe quest]

An issue that can come up though is that your cleave can be hard capped by elites in a mixed horde lmao

[royal vortex]

kid named h3 vs ragers

[ripe quest]

but fodder and bruiser clear are really solid, and that instance happening isn't punishing on the Ironhelm

[polar nexus]

does smite could help too?

[coarse birch]

is this your new bit

[royal vortex]

?????

[coarse birch]

you made that joke earlier

[ripe quest]

Historically smite has made it really annoying to hit a lot of enemies at the same time so probably not

[royal vortex]

what did i do

i have dementia

[coarse birch]

you made the kid named x joke

earlier

[royal vortex]

ive done that

quite a few times

many times

it is not new

[zealous basin]

kid named josho

[coarse birch]

i dont remember them before this

maybe i just caught it this time

[royal vortex]

u also have dementia

[south folio]

yoshi has dementia

[royal vortex]

or di dnot witness it

i dont want to agree with arco u have a healthy and functioning mind

[south folio]

probably dementia

you're a bitch

[zealous basin]

x

[coarse birch]

ok arco just sit there waiting to dogpile me damn

[south folio]

i came out of a mission to see an opportunity to dunk on you

[tropic harbor]

I had to wipe their mind

[coarse birch]

i hope your mission was awful

[tropic harbor]

Probably went too far but can’t be too careful

[coarse birch]

and that you died

[south folio]

20 minute hi int pub 😎

[coarse birch]

i need ur randos

[royal vortex]

😔

[coarse birch]

my randos fuckin

run smite surge ds2

[ripe quest]

smth that is fucking with me is trying to build a Thammer combo build like I want to set it up and I get this

[summer moth]

sleepin on smite smurge smh

[coarse birch]

ok

how do people send builds like that

how do you squish the tree

[ripe quest]

mod

[summer moth]

mod

[coarse birch]

ah

[ripe quest]

Smaller Talent Tree

[coarse birch]

ty

i thought i was missing an option

and it would be nice to not send the tree in 3 imagse

[summer moth]

did i self brick

[ripe quest]

One day my direct message through late-CM Sept Sis to get build codes in will be added.

[coarse birch]

nope

right picks

[ripe quest]

That's very solid.

[long sluice]

How would that be a brick

[summer moth]

[fleet zealot]

expecting lacerate flesh tearer ig

[coarse birch]

yeah

no bleed?

fucked up

[dense field]

[summer moth]

[long sluice]

Yep may as well sell it for ordos and start again

[woeful oyster]

Why is it fucking with you? Do you want more damage? Or what??

[polar nexus]

between onslaught and sc i wonder what does the best dmg on a bleed nade

[coarse birch]

i was gonna yell at you for running punishment and then i remembered

[polar nexus]

i assume onslaught will proce if you have your ranged wp equipped

[ripe quest]

My thammer brain wants Second Wind and SoC.

Like super bad

But being required to get Stuns, Grevious Wounds, and Punishment like

build locks me to this

[polar nexus]

it's not bad

[ripe quest]

It's a pretty fun build though I just dislike it.

[polar nexus]

but why not go martyr then?

[open pollen]

I feel the same way about ambuscade.

[ripe quest]

Judgement gets dodge buffs and I like dodge buffs.

also ranged damage and attack speed

it's a combo build

[polar nexus]

that build could work with crusher too no?

[open pollen]

I already shared my silly build. That came about entirely because I want to shoot ogryns in the ass.

[ripe quest]

Crusher doesn't get Thrust nor does it have the same Unyielding damage.

[open pollen]

I feel like ambuscade should be in the middle.