zealot-class

[naive star]

With just 2x 5% nodes and 50% from crit its 0,45 so 55% DR but you gain 5% to 25% more melee dmg (+5% melee node and Sustained Assault)

[native cargo]

You gotta be squeakin me

[sharp zodiac]

My apolocheese for the house structure

[gray ice]

Monday

[sharp zodiac]

I knew someone was gonna say that

[gray ice]

I just happened to check here at this time, so thankfully I could fulfill the prophecy

[hushed knoll]

No

[ember yew]

classic

[hushed knoll]

Sup vine and Luna

One

[dense valve]

pray for me

[hushed knoll]

One

Lime

Jfc

Vin

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455

[hushed knoll]

Hi chase

Chaxe

My phone sucks

[north sedge]

One lime

[sharp zodiac]

Replace it with the mk2 phone

[coarse birch]

yeah its the phone stan

[gray ice]

You can't blame it on the phone after all this

[fleet zealot]

WOOO

[north sedge]

He just got a new phone, any day now it will fix his terrible typing

[coarse birch]

told you it wouldnt be long

[gray ice]

Yea I'm sure

[coarse birch]

granted he didnt like butcher your name

[gray ice]

Any days now the typing will be fixed.....

[gray ice]

He very much has, I got off light

this time.

[coarse birch]

oh i was talking to chaxeferret lol

[gray ice]

im just throwin my 1.5 cents in

[coarse birch]

we gotta get stan on those typing games from 4th grade

[gray ice]

2 is unaffordable these days

[sharp zodiac]

Someone please help there is someone tickling my feet

[coarse birch]

i

stop them?

[royal vortex]

solve it yourself

[sharp zodiac]

I can't

It's myself

[fleet zealot]

what in the god damn

[frozen glen]

ew

[fleet zealot]

[fleet zealot]

idk chase is a boyish name

and I like to remain fem or at least queer

hopefully i get a new one soon

[sharp zodiac]

Reroll in the Stan gauntlet

[coarse birch]

incoming stan "your not a guy??????"

[sharp zodiac]

Of names

[fleet zealot]

i was a guy if that counts

[naive star]

Now you are 3-headed beaver?

[coarse birch]

uh oh

[fleet zealot]

nah not in real life

also those are ferrets

not beavers

https://tenor.com/view/beaver-carrot-eating-gif-21665554

[sharp zodiac]

Difference being the teeth

[fleet zealot]

LIKE COME ON

they look nothing alike

[naive star]

Close enough! 🦫

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-tree-christmas-christmas-tree-holiday-gif-23987887

christmas

just a week away

[naive star]

(bit shameful tbh since i used to even work at zoo where there were both beavers and ferrets)

[fleet zealot]

(don't let your ferrets on/around the christmas trees especially if you have glass ornaments)

[frozen glen]

nice weasel

[fleet zealot]

they can hurt themselves trying to bite into glass to stash it

[naive star]

Meerkats were coolest though, they had their own game where one would throw stone in air and they would run after to catch it and who got it would throw it again

[fleet zealot]

meerkats are very cool

https://tenor.com/view/such-search-erdmännchen-meercat-searching-gif-14852820

[naive star]

They would throw the stone similar way as in american handegg sport, between their legs behind them

[coarse birch]

what is american handegg sport

[sharp zodiac]

My coworkers are console waring eachother

[coarse birch]

tell them they are both wrong

because PC better

[sharp zodiac]

I got called a nerd

Last time I did that

[coarse birch]

but the xbox guy is extra wrong because less FF titles

[sharp zodiac]

I thought that l was an i

[fleet zealot]

playstation doesn't have games tho /s

[frozen glen]

tell them they're dumb and poor because you can own both brands

[coarse birch]

xbox is the only thing i dont have

[coarse birch]

it is an i indeed

[sharp zodiac]

Woah

My mind has become bigger

[coarse birch]

hell yeah

[sharp zodiac]

These headphones are giving me a headache why did fixing them make them WORSE

I gotta take this side off

[cinder wedge]

goodmorning, zealot chat

[naive star]

https://tenor.com/view/football-game-kurt-warner-american-underdog-lets-do-this-quarterback-gif-23835553

[coarse birch]

ohhhh

[naive star]

This way, tossing it behind between legs

[coarse birch]

like that

[sharp zodiac]

A

[coarse birch]

yeah

i was picturing the QB had already recieved the snap lol

[sharp zodiac]

A-AMZRICAN FOOTBALL???

THERE IS ONLY ONE

FOOTBALL

[coarse birch]

and you had just seen a mahomes clip or something

[sharp zodiac]

EUROPEAN

[gray ice]

ohhh

soccer

[coarse birch]

you mean soccer????

[sharp zodiac]

SHUT UP

BOTH OF YOU

[gray ice]

[naive star]

Macho Handegg is proper name for that sport

[cinder wedge]

as someone from the west, I agree shits stupid

[sharp zodiac]

YOU KICK THE BALL MORE IN EUEROPEAN FOOTBALL

WHY DID YOU NAME IT THAT

[cinder wedge]

but, maybe the Europeans I hang out with just indoctrinated me

[coarse birch]

you also touch the ball?

[naive star]

And its not even ball

[sharp zodiac]

THAT'S NOT USING YOUR FEET

[coarse birch]

well thats why its called soccer over here

[gray ice]

I can always count on yoshi

[coarse birch]

boom problem solved

[sharp zodiac]

CALL THE AMERICAN FOOTBALL SOCCER

[coarse birch]

we use our hands tho

[sharp zodiac]

NOT LIKE YOU'RE USING YOUR FEET ANYWAY

[coarse birch]

to throw the ball

[sharp zodiac]

HRRRNNNG

[coarse birch]

ok

we do kick it

[sharp zodiac]

ONCE

[coarse birch]

but much less than in normal football

not ocne

3 times if your really splitting hairs

twice otherwise

[sharp zodiac]

GRAAAAAH

YOU ARE HURTING MY BRAIN

[coarse birch]

look i agree with you t

[coarse birch]

i got you

i am simply being a hater

you are right its a weird name for it

im just used to it at this point

[spare dome]

they shouldve named it roided up closeted gay men fumble each other's balls

[coarse birch]

rolls right off the tongue

[spare dome]

i really dont know why it didnt catch on

[coarse birch]

i should hate football all its done is bring me pain

[sharp zodiac]

I don't think RUCGMFEOB is short enough

[coarse birch]

but alas its the only sport i watch

[sharp zodiac]

Compared to NFL

Whatever that is

Something league

[coarse birch]

National Football League

[sharp zodiac]

If it were international I'd shove a trinket in my ear

[coarse birch]

they arent that full of themselves yet

super bowl champs will always be called world champs for some reason though lol

[sharp zodiac]

If it were like the world Cup I'd understand

But like

[coarse birch]

it is a big deal

but they are fundamentally not world champs

it is a american sport lol

[sharp zodiac]

Still petty about my country's loss

[coarse birch]

dont worry ive been mad about my football team for 12 years

[sharp zodiac]

It would've been so FUNNY if they won

Twitter and Reddit would be losing their minds with how much they make those jokes about the French

[coarse birch]

i do not follow football/soccer at all

sadly

i could never get into it

[royal vortex]

the only good sport is turkish oil wrestling

[sharp zodiac]

Why did you have to add in oil

Wait

Why ARE they oiled

[coarse birch]

you would be into that

[coarse birch]

sounds like a fetish thing tbh

[royal vortex]

rude

[sharp zodiac]

Sometimes I oil myself but only for exercise

[coarse birch]

i cant say ive ever oiled myself for anything

nor have i thought about it

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/street-fighter-hakan-sf4-street-fighter-iv-e-honda-gif-17375818

[coarse birch]

honestly

[sharp zodiac]

Sometimes shit happens

[coarse birch]

wait what does that mean

[sharp zodiac]

Most normal Fighting game

[coarse birch]

you just said you did it on purpose

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[coarse birch]

so what does the shit happens thing mean

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-faust-bridget-brisket-eat-gif-26493405

[coarse birch]

did you get oiled on accident??

[frank night]

this may be why you have no money

[coarse birch]

fuck faust

[sharp zodiac]

Faust is funny because he fucking sucks

Not much like femboy guy with fans

[coarse birch]

he sucks and i still hate fighting that mf

[sharp zodiac]

I have some now

[coarse birch]

he was also wack af in +r

[sharp zodiac]

Just got paid

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/faust-guilty-gear-sin-kiske-gif-19834567

[sharp zodiac]

Characters I hate are Bridget and HC

[coarse birch]

so you hate zoners huh

[sharp zodiac]

Yep

[north sedge]

i haven't put any real time in strive since like, end of season 1

[coarse birch]

i havent played season 3 at all

[sharp zodiac]

I plan to main Baiken

[frank night]

put the gacha game away

[north sedge]

i installed briefly to destroy mort once, that's about it

[coarse birch]

baiken was a character i dabbled with

but i mainly played millia

[frank night]

did mort close the game in rage

[empty quarry]

Isn't there a spam channel to take this convo?

[north sedge]

i started with gio, switched to nago, dabbled with baiken a little

[coarse birch]

first time?

[sharp zodiac]

I have nothing to buy anyway

[north sedge]

shockingly he did not, he did get absolutely wrecked though

he was new to fighting games and i had been on top floor in ranked in strive, lol

[sharp zodiac]

She's fun till I saw one stick her tether to a pot

Why

[coarse birch]

tbf you get some fucked up shit off tether

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah, but I wouldn't recommend tethering a good grappler

[coarse birch]

esp vs like pot you get all the pressure in the world

i also think it gives better combo routes

but i dont remember

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/불닭까르보나라-스팸-떵개떵-먹방-리얼사운드-gif-16603396

[sharp zodiac]

It does

Especially on wall where you can just spam a combo iirc

Something mat something

[north sedge]

only fighting game i've been playing this year is sf6 otherwise, and i've put actual time in that

[coarse birch]

im gonna try to get into tekken 8

sf6 didnt click for me

i liked mk1 but its in such a weird state

[north sedge]

not really a tekken guy

i like sf6 alot

[sharp zodiac]

Not enough female characters for me in mk1

I should play giovanni or whatever black girl with wolf is called

[north sedge]

not into mk either

giovanna

[sharp zodiac]

Damnit

Off by one letter

[coarse birch]

shes good

pretty simple too iirc

she has a really dumb dash as well

[north sedge]

she's who i started with, then got into nago

[sharp zodiac]

The guy with the sword and n stuff?

[coarse birch]

yeah

[north sedge]

yea n stuff

[sharp zodiac]

He's weird

[coarse birch]

big blood samurai

i remember he was HATED

for a whi

while

in like season 2 i think

[north sedge]

he's a beast

season 1 once people realized he was strong

[sharp zodiac]

It's hard to get inside their head

Because they don't think

[north sedge]

early on people thought he was bad because of the blood mechanic

[sharp zodiac]

Just do and it makes you ask how and why did you do that

Works too

For some reason

[coarse birch]

i just had a stroke

reading that

[sharp zodiac]

Good

[coarse birch]

fuck u

[sharp zodiac]

Love you too

Anywho

[coarse birch]

anyhow

[sharp zodiac]

Damn, lost train of thought

[coarse birch]

that was fast

[sharp zodiac]

It was something something

Right

Jack-o

[coarse birch]

fuck jack o

[sharp zodiac]

List your reason

[coarse birch]

her block pressure with minions

is unreal

[north sedge]

big booty

oh

[sharp zodiac]

Two sides

[coarse birch]

there is a clip somewhere of her doing half a guys health

[sharp zodiac]

Two kinds of people

[coarse birch]

in chip

in 2 seconds

and then he tries to press and dies

[north sedge]

she was kinda shit when she came out

[sharp zodiac]

Oh yeah the whole let your Minion do the work

[coarse birch]

yeah she was bad at first

she is hard

ill give it up

[sharp zodiac]

Ramlethal is fun to play as but against makes you realize "wow this is what I've been doing to people?"

[coarse birch]

i started with ram

and swapped to millia

ram is crazy

[sharp zodiac]

The corner pressure is my favorite part about her

Just throw your giant sexy sticks

At the wall

[coarse birch]

i liked the part where i pressed far slash

and then i pressed it again

[sharp zodiac]

And again

Because her neutral is equivalent to just that

Hah first fighting game and I finally understand that now

[ocean geode]

Hey, can someone please recommend some good axe-judgement build?

[coarse birch]

and then i did wake up super for half health

which axe

[sharp zodiac]

Very exquisite gameplay

[coarse birch]

truly the character of all time

[sharp zodiac]

I loved the part where she said it's ramlethal time

And ramlethal'd all over the place

With her sister E

[coarse birch]

that was my exact experience with her

[ocean geode]

I never really played with axes so i really don't know

[coarse birch]

oh right shes in the game now

[sharp zodiac]

Get some Grey's, get the feel of each

My friend already hates her

[coarse birch]

combat axes are better than taxes by a wide margin, ideally rashaad is best, then axtax, then achlys

you want BM/Headtaker or decimator on all of them with flak maniac

as perks

[coarse birch]

also this is worth doing

im just stating the meta

[north sedge]

and achlys is a massive step down from the other two

[coarse birch]

i have heard stories about her in Xrd

so i believe it

[sharp zodiac]

I hope the next fighter is a piece of sandwich

[north sedge]

she's totally different from xrd

[coarse birch]

good

[coarse birch]

what kind of sandwich

[sharp zodiac]

Hmmm

Turkey

[north sedge]

she's mostly a close up mixup character now

[coarse birch]

hell yeah

turkey is good

[ocean geode]

But what about the talent tree? I'm really badly experienced on Zealot, so i am not sure what i want on it

[sharp zodiac]

I love me close mixup characters

[coarse birch]

i can probably throw something together give me a sec

[coarse birch]

millia player pog?

[sharp zodiac]

Wouldn't hurt to try her no?

[coarse birch]

shes fun

just remember you die in 2 interactions

or one

[sharp zodiac]

I like embracing

What

[coarse birch]

if you fight goldlewis

she has no health

[sharp zodiac]

Well

That's just goldlewis in general

[coarse birch]

she has the second least health to only chipp

[ocean geode]

Also does the heavy las pistol a good weapon to pair with axe and judgement? What do i need to look on it?

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-strive-lewis-goldlewis-dickinson-gif-22411109

[coarse birch]

so you just kinda explode

but you get 2 airdashes and a bunch of movement options

and some movement cancels

[coarse birch]

heavy las would work

[sharp zodiac]

Oh right I forgot those exist

[north sedge]

pretty much any ranged will work with rashad

[coarse birch]

but you really want a BM axe

otherwise you have no horde clear

if your gonna run las pistol

idk what she got in season 3 tho

[sharp zodiac]

Uhhhh

Idk either

But if I hear that stupid dolphin one more time I'm taking her home and locking her under my sink

[coarse birch]

oh my god i hate may

like actually just

despise her

[sharp zodiac]

I loathe her in every capacity

That's their goal

To make you angry

And by god it's working

[flint birch]

For boltgun, whats the best setup? Pinning fire or Crit?

[sharp zodiac]

Pinning

[coarse birch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b35c50b-f636-43b3-a229-9a7b44eeb016/axe-build @ocean geode @north sedge heres a build (pinged dough in case i put some stupid shit in)

thats what id run personally, ofc you could not take knives and go for nades

[north sedge]

seems fine

[coarse birch]

i had a friend who played may

nicest guy ever

but playing his may made me want to put my head through a wall

[sharp zodiac]

The nice guys always hide their inner demon

That demon being that annoying orange bitch

[coarse birch]

he also played yoshi in smash so like

i think he was nice because he just put his bad side into fighting games

[sharp zodiac]

I played byleth and corrin

[coarse birch]

based

actually so based

respect up +1000%

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/chad-gigachad-jinup-jinup-chad-gif-23896242

Potemkin players:

[sharp zodiac]

My ex didn't like me Playing byleth because she never liked the fe roster

[coarse birch]

thats pretty normal

[sharp zodiac]

Literally only DLC character I bought

[coarse birch]

tbf i hate like 90% of the roster

playing against some of those characters in tourney has taken years off my life

[sharp zodiac]

Potemkin players after landing the 15th Potemkin buster

(For some fucking reason the opponent didn't expect it)

[visual stream]

Simple pleasure, simple life, simple as

[coarse birch]

are you said opponent

[sharp zodiac]

That's

No

[coarse birch]

congrats

you are probably better than me at strive

[sharp zodiac]

Clearly

Despite the fact I still suck ass

[visual stream]

Not a fan of fighting games but I respect people who are

[coarse birch]

i wasnt that great either

i think i peaked at floor 8 or 9

[visual stream]

Because it takes a certain kind of person to spend 800 hours in the training tool just to actually play for only 20 hours

[coarse birch]

the only fighting game i got "good" at was smash and even that i couldnt get as good as i would have liked to despite putting in 2000+ hours

[north sedge]

i was in heaven, my peak was fighting videogamedunkey

[coarse birch]

damn

hes made it

[visual stream]

Last time I played Smash was against my near-blackout drunk friend who was really good and I figured that would give me even playing grounds

Misclick

[coarse birch]

ayo

not again

[sharp zodiac]

Wat

Finally time to go home

[north sedge]

my peak in sf6 so far has been making ltg rage quit round 1

[visual stream]

Anyway he went from wobbling side to side to straight ass posture the moment he grabbed the controller

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-discord-gif-24306382

[coarse birch]

hell yeah

[visual stream]

I knew it was joever at that moment

[coarse birch]

i mean he ragequits for anything

[visual stream]

I didn't even see what I deleted

[coarse birch]

but thats pog

[sharp zodiac]

Be the reason

Ltg leaves the match

[coarse birch]

luna how much MH did you say youve played

[north sedge]

oh yea he got deleted

[sharp zodiac]

3k hours

On mhw

Rise is 2k

[coarse birch]

well i was gonna ask if you wanted to play at some point but you may be a little better than me lmao

i only have like 400

most of it is in midish game

[sharp zodiac]

I don't even know if world is crosplay

[coarse birch]

uhhh

good question

i also thought you played on pc for some reason

[sharp zodiac]

Not yet

[royal vortex]

almost as much ammo as a bolter

[sharp zodiac]

And it does not unfortunately

They should add it for wilds if I don't have a PC by then

[coarse birch]

the aim trainer

ah rip

well nvm then

[sharp zodiac]

No worries

[coarse birch]

if i had a console to play it on i could

but im not xbox

[sharp zodiac]

Wouldn't want to bring down the experience and turn it into some cakewalk

You're doing yourself a favor

[coarse birch]

hey i wouldnt mind i kinda wanna learn the game anyway

[hardy lake]

good time to embrace tekken

[north sedge]

Eh not my jam

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-yskysn-ltg-thunder-thunder-gif-23523876

[hardy lake]

https://tenor.com/view/tekken-paul-gif-26236151

[coarse birch]

"bitch ass marisa just mashing, they made SF too easy"

[hardy lake]

what about for honor

[solar gorge]

for shithor

[north sedge]

lol

[hardy lake]

someone got incredibilis'd too hard

[solar gorge]

idk what that means

i wouldn't dare even buy that game

[north sedge]

for honor was fine, played for a while early pandemic but didnt hold my interest

[hardy lake]

i dont buyed i got it free

[still quartz]

For Honor? More like

No Honor

Cause getting ganked in a team game is "bad"

[solar gorge]

game so old now, playerbase is probably some kind of wicked empty husk

[sharp zodiac]

The two FH advocates aren't on as of right now

[still quartz]

I got into it cause of my gf and if you play it absolutely casually and not some serious sweat gamer, it's actually not that bad

[hardy lake]

i see often duels in 4x4 deathmatch

but yeah most popular game mode is pretty zoo

[ashen pecan]

my peak in sf is losing to bonchan 😭

[still quartz]

Now if you start grinding out that shit and being a reaaaaal unemployed gamer in For Honor though, rip entire experience

You staying in your damn elo kek

[solar gorge]

you actually have to be an active glue consumer if you duel in team games

[still quartz]

Yeah I duel if I see an opportunity but if I get ganked / if I start ganking, no remorse

[hardy lake]

its the most played medieval fight game atm, more than mordhau + chiv 2 + chiv 1 combined

[still quartz]

"it's a team game, makes sense"

Which is why I main Warmonger

Good luck ganking me now

[solar gorge]

i mean, it doesn't play like chiv 2 or mordhau at all like not even close

[hardy lake]

about 4 k-5 k not that bad i thiink

[sharp zodiac]

My peak in FH

Was getting into the 2nd tier before top 100

Or 500

[still quartz]

My peak is being able to read Dodge Attacks but that's it

[sharp zodiac]

As nobu

Loved that hero

[still quartz]

Orochi doing their standard Kick -> Feint Top Heavy -> Guardbreak Heavy -> loop

I die

[hardy lake]

or play JJ and spam dodge attack

[still quartz]

Because I'm dumb

Nah I don't like JJ's aesthetics

I hate him just as much tho xd

[sharp zodiac]

Nobu took a lot of brainpower for me

Did have my light spamming phase

[still quartz]

My gf mains Nobushi but is learning Afeera

Huge difference

Poor lady

[hardy lake]

idk about asian spam light old tech, i only play chad warden

||and i suck at it ||

[still quartz]

Nobushi has the potential to be extremely good but the light spamming does get out of hand (and predictable)

Literally Light Light-Light Backlight repeat

[sharp zodiac]

Warden mains using their same comboes from 3 years back (they've gotten no updates to their characters)

Other than that rework

[still quartz]

Warden mains enjoying a character that works for basically everything:

[hardy lake]

its super strong in 4x4 , the kick even if its predictable bypass revenge

[still quartz]

Yeah that kick is fuckin strong

[hardy lake]

and bleed dont proc revenge bar

[still quartz]

She's just good and I don't blame her xd

The only thing I want to see changed is Highlander's fuckin Dodge Attack speeds, that shit is faster than his other attacks and throws off momentum

[sharp zodiac]

It's why with nobu her dodge light doesn't feed revenge

Perfect to use

[still quartz]

I actively have to play hella defensive versus a Highlander

[hardy lake]

its basicaly a warmonger, but less strong

still strong tho

a tier in duel no doubt

[still quartz]

Warden v Warmonger is just Ryu v Akuma at this point

Like Warden is stupid good and doesn't require much to deal with stuff

[sharp zodiac]

A bad highlander I just wait till he fucks up the same old light X2 heavy to punisj

A good highlander

[hardy lake]

except ryu fight with one arm and warmonger 4

[still quartz]

Warmonger has a ton of shit she can use but if you aren't able to use it well, you die

[sharp zodiac]

Makes me realize he had shit that didn't even exist

[still quartz]

Yeah exactly xd

[sharp zodiac]

I didn't even know exist*

[still quartz]

Dude every Highlander I fight in my elo is Dodge Attack Enthusiast

Had to fight a level 3 bot in Training to get that shit engrained in my head

[hardy lake]

because is super strong low mid elo

[still quartz]

It really is

[hardy lake]

so why learn to play ?

asian chars in a nutshel

[still quartz]

And I'm definitely mid elo cause these guys at least know how to break guardbreak xd

Fuck Kensei

All my homies hate Kensei

[sharp zodiac]

I loved playing kensei

Like

Actually learning the guys moveset and feints n shit

[hardy lake]

i love kensei, and its far less annoying than orochi imo

[still quartz]

If I wasn't fighting a Dodge Attack Kensei, I was fighting a Light Spamming Kensei

That range and speed is nuts

[hardy lake]

• balanced, not op like orochi and 30 dmg heavy finisher

[still quartz]

I'd only want his Lights damage reduced by like 1 or 2 points but that's it

[sharp zodiac]

They underuse that unblockable special ability of there's

[still quartz]

Otherwise just Feint Heavy and Parry Dodge Attack

[sharp zodiac]

Allows you to easily give enemies a 50/50 involving heavies

[still quartz]

That bash right?

[sharp zodiac]

And is GREAT in teamfights

[sharp zodiac]

No

[still quartz]

O

[sharp zodiac]

He has a t4 ability

That turns EVERY attack into an unblockable

[still quartz]

OH no I've seen that

I never knew he even had that

[sharp zodiac]

But people just use it for lights

[still quartz]

That shit was just Light Spam central from there

Yeah

I mean why do anything else when they can't Light Parry you in that elo

I know I can't

Fuckin hell

[sharp zodiac]

I like feinting top heavy to an instant bash for a heavy with hyper amour if I miss the bash

[hardy lake]

lightspamming is far more dangerous tome than dodge attack spam. i mean a nervous player get pretty rekt with a feint into parry .

good luck to parry a 430 ms light if you are not trained/ very good reflexes

[sharp zodiac]

Or light if I hit it

[still quartz]

I should learn to Light Parry a Highlander that does Crushing Counters

That'll throw them off for real

[sharp zodiac]

My trick is to feint the heavy and delay the parry juust a bit

Trick works on Warden's too

[hardy lake]

i never parry light i just cant, i just block

[still quartz]

It's soooo satisfying when you do

Plus for Warmonger that's a 27 Damage Top Heavy punish

And I take those

[hardy lake]

if you can

[still quartz]

Yeah xd

[hardy lake]

😂

[still quartz]

I only ever get it on Dodge Attack parries :c

[hardy lake]

me too

[still quartz]

Sometimes I big brain out of nowhere or the universe aligns and I "accidentally" Light Parry a dude

[coarse birch]

@royal vortex i got the ogryn again 😭

[sharp zodiac]

I remember my old gameplay

Good times, even if I did fuck up at the end

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[still quartz]

Yo I tried maining Kyoshin for a bit

I have no idea why some people have no idea how to fight him

Literally spam Guardbreak or Unblockables, motherfucker can't do shit

Like he's strong in a teamfight but in a duel dude's definitely meh

[hardy lake]

that kick is so sad, you deserved the win

[still quartz]

DUN MA GLASS

[hardy lake]

its actualy french

[sharp zodiac]

Thankfully my team came after my death so it wasn't truly in vain

[still quartz]

To be fair he got that Light Parry off at the end

So Luna dying was kind of inevitable from that

If he didn't, Luna woulda lived

[hardy lake]

i would get intant rekt in 5 sec

lmao

[still quartz]

Me too xd

Only time I ever survived a 3-man gank was when one of them just kept feeding me Revenge

[sharp zodiac]

He got too acquainted to my top light

I used it too much

[hardy lake]

by to my defense i play warden , it suck in 1vX

[still quartz]

Folly of our youth

I'm good with Warmonger but I keep forgetting my tools and also my Switch Target button

KB + M gamer be like

If anything I need to either rush my T4 or predict a good opportunity to apply my T1

[hardy lake]

only tools with warden in 1v3 = rollcatcher, parry and aoe

😂

[still quartz]

xd

[hardy lake]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-kazama-pocket-circuit-like-a-dragon-gif-9601902138673307178

[still quartz]

SHOULDER, POP POP

I think Warmonger Hero Fest is still active, been seeing a lot of newbie Warmongers

I feel bad when I absolutely decimate them but

YOU GOTTA LEARN SOMEHOW

[hardy lake]

i hate this char so i hate my life now

[still quartz]

I love the new execution though

It's very nice

[sharp zodiac]

I remember this one too

Dodging the one shot just at the last second

[still quartz]

That Hito was banking on it landing cause they didn't know what to do afterwards xd

[still quartz]

My friend mains Hitokiri and I dueled them so much that fighting an actual Hito isn't so bad anymore

God that shit was definitely horrible at first though

[still quartz]

The church music to temper your spirit

[hardy lake]

amen

[still quartz]

As you absolutely eat that Shaolin's life xd

[hardy lake]

he spam too hard dodge attack

he dont respect me

[still quartz]

Yeah some people fight like they're fighting Level 1 - 2 Bots

[sharp zodiac]

This one felt smoothe

[still quartz]

I know my brain did that cause I fucking farmed Breach v AI for cosmetics

[hardy lake]

i think its because dodge attacks is the meta now

atleast in 4v4 dominion

[still quartz]

Good iframes, generally fast

[hardy lake]

and shao dodge attack is so dumb

[still quartz]

Imagine if you could Feint them

[hardy lake]

huge range

[still quartz]

Shao, Highlander and Kensei Dodge Attacks are annoying to me because of the fact that they go OPPOSITE of their dodge direction

[ocean geode]

Wasted 1m ordos and 10k plasteel and didn't get anything on Rashad Axe. Not even one BM

[still quartz]

And I can NEVER adjust my brain properly until after like 2-3 deaths to it

[ocean geode]

Seems like i'm not doing new build in near future

[still quartz]

[hardy lake]

like any asian char, because its the noob ground.

except kensei and nobu

imean 1v1 if you are good enough nobu cant do really much

[still quartz]

Honestly I still remember wanting to play FH cause I wanted to main Orochi

Then I tried out Warmonger and went

'Yeah this one's for me"

[sharp zodiac]

Last one from me but I loved pk for being either useless or amazing

[still quartz]

I feel SO bad for PK

[still quartz]

https://tenor.com/bmlsK.gif

[hardy lake]

super strong 1v1 i find, she gona be buff

she got bash

[still quartz]

A good PK fuckin destroys me tho

She got a slow Bash move but it is pretty good mixup tool I think?

Just that in higher elos they read that shit like a fuckin children's picture book

[hardy lake]

idk

[sharp zodiac]

It works

But like

It could've been a few ms faster?

I saw the bash itself

[visual stream]

Peacekeeper so based

[hardy lake]

yeah but in teamfight can be usefull to initiate bleed and threatening unblocable

[visual stream]

Favorite character by far, Shaman is a close second though

[still quartz]

Oh yeah deffos

[hardy lake]

they murdered him,

[visual stream]

Shaman mind-gaming with the ear bite wind-up was so fucking funny

[still quartz]

Better in 4s than in 1s

Good Shaman players scare me

I need to learn to Parry their Zone

[hardy lake]

too much chad, devs will nerf pisskeeper

[still quartz]

The Shamans in my elo spam the Zone a lot

[sharp zodiac]

I miss this but I understand why it got removed

[visual stream]

Man For Honor sounds so fun rn but I know I would get ((bad time)) urges if I played

[sharp zodiac]

This one is just a fun one

[hardy lake]

imain lawbringer warden and glad

[hardy lake]

shino gameplay

[visual stream]

Highlander makes me want to projectile vomit buffalo chicken at them

[hardy lake]

doom wall glass

[still quartz]

Meh I only get really pissed at a Highlander if they spam Offensive Stance Lights

Otherwise everything else is pretty fair game

"SURELY LETTING THIS TOP HEAVY FLY FOR A 4TH TIME WON'T GET DODGE ATTACK'D-"

Executed

[visual stream]

YE AR HAR

[hardy lake]

EAR*

HOA

[still quartz]

YA BRA BRIALTAR or whatever the shit they say before they kick you and ledge you

[hardy lake]

lmao

[sharp zodiac]

I remember when Nobu's dodge attack was fucked

Like you couldn't press the input otherwise it didn't count as a dodge

You had to actually press dodge then dodge attack

Like a delayed dodge heavy

[still quartz]

Sometimes that's good

[hardy lake]

thats why my gb was so intense for them

mmh

[still quartz]

But yeah that responsiveness is much needed

Dude playing Warmonger at the precipice of high elo taught me a few things

One is that their Dodge Heavy gets guardbroken very easily xd

I did not think that was possible but it is

Two is that Guardbreaking Revenge isn't a fuckin dumb strat and I'm just an idiot for thinking it was

Coulda yeeted some dudes into walls during ganks for free Heavies smh

[sharp zodiac]

Or off ledges or into walls to drain the revenge timer

Never just throw yourself into attacks without the proper tech

Like block able attacks nnshit

Throw unblockables behind them or attack after your teammate attacks after they hit theirs on a gb

Too many times I had teammates just pressing buttons

[still quartz]

Still remember this Gladiator random I matched up with in my team

We dominated every gank

I miss him every day

Best teammate I've ever had :c

[coarse birch]

bursters make me want to throw myself off the highest building i can find

[still quartz]

My honest Push to that information:

[royal vortex]

that is what they are trying to get you to do

[coarse birch]

its tempting

i wouldnt have to play vs bursters anymore

also the ogryn rage quit

[royal vortex]

L

score 1 for equality

[coarse birch]

he got trapped a single time

and it was over

[royal vortex]

lmao

[coarse birch]

surge staff smite DS 2 psyker

i think thats enough dt for now

[royal vortex]

ds2 horde clear

smh

[coarse birch]

i have no faith

smite psykers dont use there melee

[south folio]

it physically pains me

that i have seen more than one psyker that has both smite and purg,

and they always use smite on pure hordes

no elites, specials, or anything that need to be kept down

and yet

smite and not purg

[still quartz]

Why shock 1-2

When you can shock 4-5

:^)

[spare dome]

I'm starting to think Surge needs to like

auto stop after 30% peril gain or some other made up number

[royal vortex]

@coarse birch god damn cavalcade stacks per shot

on bolter

[hushed knoll]

Why do I keep thinking exploits is Josho

They have the same pfp basically

[north sedge]

what does this have to do with kevin spacey

[royal vortex]

(famous star of the movie Sins)

[south folio]

owo

[north sedge]

also, wildly different pfps

[royal vortex]

u can clear 4 crushers

[north sedge]

both are black and white, that's about it

[royal vortex]

with blazing piety cavalcade

+cara/elites

@south folio i can do the funniest thing ever

[south folio]

you're a sick bastard

[royal vortex]

this isnt even w/ duellist or anoint

[south folio]

w/o chastise?

[royal vortex]

with chastise

[south folio]

smh

[royal vortex]

do i upgrade pinning fire or elites

hmmm

"you can leave the slot open josho" FUCK YOU

[ripe quest]

you can leave the slot open josho

[south folio]

exhale race

[royal vortex]

suffer.

[ripe quest]

What one Stanular message does to a man

[hushed knoll]

I AM NOT STANULAR

I am whole

[ripe quest]

Stanular

[hushed knoll]

I am not some graham cracker that a grandma left on the corner of her plate

[royal vortex]

i wonder how much u can juice this

[hushed knoll]

Stale graham crackers are the best

I legit leave packs open so they get soft

[ripe quest]

Spider Toe Stale

[fading vale]

you are stale

[hushed knoll]

How could you do this to me

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/have-at-thee-rat-jump-gif-3333922911057271749

[fading vale]

I'm gonna leave you out on the counter for a month

[hushed knoll]

I am not one of your foodstuffs

[hushed knoll]

You need to go to mall jail

OMG I FORGOT I COULD CLOWNPEEK

YAAAAS

[fading vale]

[hushed knoll]

[royal vortex]

ok it seems like the limit of feasibility is 4 crushers a mag

[ripe quest]

Weak ass

[fading vale]

used to be able to do 7

[ripe quest]

You can get like 6-7 rn

[royal vortex]

i think if u had pre-nerf shattering impact it would be simpler

because fishing for a duellist proc is annoying

u can probably kill more if theyre stacked on top of each other

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-sassy-molassy-gif-25074369

[fading vale]

I implore you to show killing 6 or 7 crushers in 1 mag

[ripe quest]

Are you ulting?

[royal vortex]

yea

[fading vale]

you could get 7 pre patch 13, with a stun, and shattering/pinning with cara and elites

and chastise

[royal vortex]

this is probably easier to do in a live game because most maps have tight corridors

u cant really both stun stuff and bait a duellist proc without a comically weird setup that probs isnt happening often realistically

[south folio]

you stalker

[royal vortex]

ok if theyre all stacked up with anoint + chastise i can get 5

[south folio]

now do it with duellist

[royal vortex]

this is where it gets annoying

because they move

[gray ice]

now do a flip

[royal vortex]

i guess i could stick them all in a pillar

[south folio]

you sick bastard

[north sedge]

ok but what if you had thunderstrike

[south folio]

it's a real missed opportunity that bolter doesnt have vicious slice

[ripe quest]

Probs didn't even need the 2nd ult I just cold pressed it

[fading vale]

I can't see how many you killed

[ripe quest]

The kill count next to my health, to the left

It was 8

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-rush-cyberfunk-frank-the-franks-bomb-rush-gif-3994581062930334997

[rain steppe]

I finally used the other heavy eviscorator! And thunk I've chosen it for my zealot build

[fading vale]

hmm

several lucky crits but ok I guess, and momentum active

[ripe quest]

Duellist might let me kill more

I was using a Cavalcade + PF boltgun with a Skullcrusher setup on the Thammer.

Can do it with Dclaw and Crusher

[fading vale]

wait so this is a skullcrusher bug

[south folio]

OH MY GOD SKULL CRUSHER

[royal vortex]

OH MY GOD SKULL CRUSHER

[south folio]

shut up

you bitch

[ripe quest]

Is there a bug regarding skullcrusher?

[south folio]

so that's why you had your hammer out

[fading vale]

you said skullcrusher as if it's relevant to ranged attacks, so presumably there is a bug yes

[ripe quest]

It being a debuff makes me think the comboing stuff is intended.

It works with ranged attacks yeah

Was going crazy yesterday

[fading vale]

ok bro don't pull out bullshit nonsense when you say a weapon can do x y and z

[ripe quest]

What?

[fading vale]

you are stacking skullcrusher for some reason and for some reason it buffs ranged

which is obviously not intended

and nobody would ever do in game

and saying "bolter kills 7"

with the caveat of stacking a skullcrusher melee

this does not apply

[ripe quest]

There seems to be confusion here, was the skullcrusher thing unknown?

[royal vortex]

i was p much replicating conditions in which u stumble upon a clown car and u just kinda hold the trigger in which case the magic number is about 4

[ripe quest]

I learned indirectly from crab about it

[violet hornet]

What are the two ironhelm attacks you're using in this clip?

[ripe quest]

special light into light

[violet hornet]

Ahh ty I'm not familiar with ironhelm

[ripe quest]

Using Grevious Wounds but that was just for Ragers, not sure about the stagger BPs.

[fading vale]

I didn't know it buffs ranged, but imo not intended until fatshark decides wtf they want to do with random blessing interactions

[north sedge]

it's a debuff so it's not exactly surprising

[ripe quest]

I was pretty upfront with it being a Skullcrusher setup + I benchmarked it last w/ the Skullcrusher thing. If it means anything I can go fish for the peak non-optimal performance

[royal vortex]

oh my god u can do the funniest thing ever

[fading vale]

regardless, something like that should not be a baseline comparison

[hardy lake]

https://tenor.com/view/spartacus-crixus-stare-gif-17936166

[fading vale]

so 4 or 5 is the more reasonable max

[royal vortex]

crusher h1 swap to agri shotgun with slug loaded

chastise

kill the crusher

[split ibex]

So eviscerator has an unlisted target cap? Do all the chain weapons have target caps?

[north sedge]

all weapons

[ripe quest]

It's super weapon dependent.

[fading vale]

each weapon has its own cleave curve

[ripe quest]

Like, Mk II Evis H1 doesn't have a target cap.

[royal vortex]

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

if u wanna learn stuff

about weapons

this is a good starting point

[ripe quest]

It'd be upwards of 5 without Duellist procced yeah.

[split ibex]

Is there a spot there that lists the target cap? Or is it just implied by the damage table

[coarse birch]

yeah thats what i wanna run eventually

if i wasnt locked into SI

[royal vortex]

if the bottom number on the cleave cap says 0 that's where the cap is

[coarse birch]

some weapons also do hitmass right

[royal vortex]

what

[ripe quest]

It's just the normal cleave values being subtracted by enemy hitmass until the weapon runs out.

Certain weapon have hitmass modifiers for certain armor types

but outside of that it's super normal

[fading vale]

also there is stagger cleave falloff apparently

[royal vortex]

so an xii chainaxe is target capped at 4 on lights

[ripe quest]

The heavies on the Mk IV are capped too

Probs as to why the Mk IV has roughly the same crowd performance as the Mk XV Evis

[coarse birch]

oh i see

josho the ds2 surge smite psyker did in fact

not use melee

[royal vortex]

i cant believe this

[coarse birch]

they at least used the staff

[royal vortex]

he had the coolest dueling sword

[coarse birch]

TRUE

[south folio]

unironically the coolest

i like the h2

[coarse birch]

nobody used there melee actually

[ripe quest]

@fading vale I do recommend trying Skullcrusher in general in place of HT/Slaught on Thammer. Does different stuff better, Ironhelm can hit like absurd crowd clear times. Better than a Chainsword, Hsword, or DClaw. Also the combo weapon stuff but I imagine you don't want to do that.

[coarse birch]

it was just me who used a melee weapon lol

[south folio]

the horror of having the highest melee damage on ranged builds

[fading vale]

I'd enjoy it on crusher of course

[coarse birch]

im glad you knew i was using a ranged build

[fading vale]

Crucis is a no go cause who cares about the second hit

[south folio]

you disgust me

[fading vale]

and ironhelm is a fake hammer to me so, rip

[coarse birch]

ok mk6 psword columnus shout user

[south folio]

whaaaaa me?

i could never

[hazy talon]

Any zealot build to learn the game?

[south folio]

(i'm mk6 psword kant shotty-pilled now)

[coarse birch]

more based

also i havent hit 1k kills in a while lol

smite psyker moment

maybe ill use ds2 again

h1 special to get h1 again my beloved

although im deimos pilled rn

[south folio]

i truly would use it if it didn't do ~40% less damage than the mk4 for no reason

[coarse birch]

the not normalized heavies are wack

if anything it should be the other way around

[south folio]

i need to time the h2 hordeclear to see if it's decidedly better than lightspam to see if I should bring it into games

[coarse birch]

i do have a decent one

yeah thats what im curious about

like if i could take it with my gunker build for less assail reliant horde clear

that would be nice

ok ngl upon even doing remote tests its not looking great rn, and the lights are worse cause l3 and 4 dont hit heads as well as far as i can tel

due to swinging up

[south folio]

oh right the mk2 light combo loops into all 4 lights right

unlike the mk4 which loops into the last 2 lights which are both diagonal overheads

[coarse birch]

yeah the first 2 are like ds4

but then it does 2 upwards swings

that also seem to knock shit over

sometimes

which is also not great

[south folio]

AUGH

why god do you give uppercuts to finesse weapons

[coarse birch]

l2 doesnt go into h2 either

😦

ok l1 does

at least

[south folio]

yeah there's that

[flint birch]

hey guys for knife zealot, what blessings and perks do you suggest

[coarse birch]

hmm

they seem

decently similar

[coarse birch]

uncanny/precog and flak maniac

although i need to test with rampage or something

ok ds2 with rampage uncanny actually doesnt do half bad but i was testing on a very close together horde

[flint birch]

are you guys running blazing piety or inexorable

[coarse birch]

i do jusdgement but either would work

[ripe quest]

Martyr

[flint birch]

i have a knife with flesh tearer/uncanny how come we dont want the bleed blessings?

[sharp zodiac]

Got home

[coarse birch]

that ones decent

[sharp zodiac]

New headphones

[coarse birch]

but generally they arent good because you can just kill something with precog/uncanny

before bleed will do anything meaningful

and one outright wants you to not hit weakspots

which is ass

[indigo quartz]

bleed takes too long for the enemies that really need to

[ripe quest]

Very simply put it makes the knife worse for single target and still a bit rough for crowd damage.

[coarse birch]

@south folio ok it seems like ds2 does a bit better but its not by a huge margin

[indigo quartz]

fleshtearer at least kills chaff in a horde

[coarse birch]

both with uncanny/rampage

[indigo quartz]

but lacerate is awful

[coarse birch]

its like maybe a second or 2 from my testing

[south folio]

I cri

[coarse birch]

i wish the chain time was a little faster

[ripe quest]

Like if you want crowd damage smth like Haymaker + Executor on the Mk VI is probs your best bet

[coarse birch]

between l1 and h2

would make a difference

[coarse birch]

nice

dont break these ones

[ripe quest]

break them

feed the garbage with delicious headphones

[sharp zodiac]

They're uh, lil twisted but I gave them the Luna special

[coarse birch]

why did you buy twisted headphones

[sharp zodiac]

Because my sister twisted them

I fixed em up

I should kill my sister

That'd be funny

[south folio]

so true

[coarse birch]

that sounds like the right thing to do tbh

[coarse birch]

if my sister twisted my headphones it would be over

[sharp zodiac]

Beer bottle

That's the way

[south folio]

soooo joever

[coarse birch]

or id just have them give me 300 dollars

either would work

although money only fixes it short term

[next chasm]

A zealot just joined my strike team with this, on a scale from 1-10 how fcked am I?

[coarse birch]

hey its joshos first hammer

[sharp zodiac]

I'm sorry to say- oh that's someone else's what the fuck

[coarse birch]

well your probably carrying in the melee department

[north sedge]

my condolences

at least they didnt purposefully put those on there?

[coarse birch]

they willingly went into a match with it though 😭

[flint birch]

what would you guys change on this?

[coarse birch]

perk to maniac

sprint eff

in particular

[flint birch]

and flesh tearer to precog?