zealot-class

[royal vortex]

they very haphazardly slapped together the crafting system

[polar nexus]

so you want no respite + ff / ds or scattershot

big brain moment

[royal vortex]

i have it on good authority the design intent was to knock a horde over

[coarse birch]

Lawby being the only shotgun and sucking ass was so sad

Not even old vet made it work well

[polar nexus]

remember og revolver

[royal vortex]

😔

[ripe quest]

I mean it was ok just the special shot wasn't ever touched.

[gray ice]

Y'know occasionally I wonder in what state this stuff was and what was faulty about it such that they scrapped it and cobbled together what they did so close to the release date

[royal vortex]

oh yeah i rolled this from green from the requisition today

so

[ripe quest]

Kinda like the current conception about Agri Shotgun on Zealot

[royal vortex]

u know

[coarse birch]

Dont you have an ironhelm

Already

[gray ice]

Like what was the crafting system they had in place which was worse than what we had at launch

[polar nexus]

yesterday i played with a shroud agri shotgun zeal

[royal vortex]

i have several worse ironhelms

[loud hearth]

is evisc the best zealot melee? just making a zealot coming from psyker

[royal vortex]

this is the best one i have atm

[coarse birch]

Ah

[coarse birch]

Its good but no

[royal vortex]

+elites is no longer that useful on ironhelm

[ripe quest]

It'd be so funny if some of the scrapped content was perfectly fine and they were just scared to release it or had a bad opinion on it

[coarse birch]

Id say its below hsword/caxe at least

[royal vortex]

u want +flak because with full sustained assault/slaught 3 stacks u can one shot a mauler to the body

[coarse birch]

Yeah i think i run flak/unyield

Yeah

[royal vortex]

headtaker

f

[coarse birch]

😔

[royal vortex]

the ironhelm feels like it's

really close to being a weapon i like to use consistently

but the moveset on it is just bad

like the lights are dumb

[coarse birch]

I need to try it again

[royal vortex]

they dont work how they should

push attack is a sweep that chains into the l2

it needs to be an uppercut

[coarse birch]

The day the push shit works i will like it

[spare dome]

that first vanguard light sucks

[royal vortex]

it's terrible

well it's ok sometimes for chaining to a h2

[spare dome]

its the biggest hurdle for me

[royal vortex]

but

what they should do

is give it a cooler push attack than like the crucis

[coarse birch]

It feels very disjointed

[royal vortex]

because again it chains to the l2

so what you should be able to do

is push attack l2 h3

for non-activated single target

and then u can keep the push -> h3 thing but idk why you would do that instead of just activation if u wanna use that much time

but more weapons need uppercuts

[coarse birch]

Average hs7 user

[royal vortex]

so give it like a straight shot uppercut so u have to like jerk the camera up

and then u bring it back down for the l2 and it feels cool

and then u finish them with the h3

and that's badass

[polar nexus]

with special?

[royal vortex]

yea

[ripe quest]

Bigger damage.

[royal vortex]

i tried it vs a cspawn

it ran away

i wasted so much fkin time

it was maddening

[ripe quest]

Just like, time it a tiny bit earlier

[royal vortex]

thank u

great advice

[ripe quest]

mhm

[royal vortex]

dude

im crabpilled on this shit

the SCOOP

[coarse birch]

I do like it lol

[ripe quest]

It's just the VI but with slightly different strengths and weaknesses

[royal vortex]

it has a huge upside

[ripe quest]

and a better hitbox on the heavy sweep

[royal vortex]

swag

the scoop feels significantly easier to hit mutie heads with

[coarse birch]

Its a heavy sword

Lets slow down

[royal vortex]

i do kinda wish the 6 and the 7 had more separation

weapons probs shouldnt just be moveset flips

[coarse birch]

Yeah

[gray ice]

I mean it definitely happens, it just has me curious

[coarse birch]

I get its a mk but

Still

[ripe quest]

I'd probs make one of them Unyielding focused with the heavies.

[coarse birch]

Killing 3 monstrosities in one swing with deathblow on maelstrom pog

[ripe quest]

Gib me the overhead into stab combo fatshark

[spare dome]

stab into overhead is what i want

[coarse birch]

Is there any weapons other than ogryn cleavers with stabs that arent PA

[royal vortex]

dueling sword

knife

[spare dome]

plenty yea

obscurus

[placid salmon]

PA?

[spare dome]

Pennsylvania

[coarse birch]

Oh yeah guess i didn't think about ds lol

And obscurus you could not pay me to remember the moveset its been so long

[royal vortex]

just remember

[polar nexus]

it's like people are discovering the joy of the 7 now...

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/u6swkq

Ogryn.

[coarse birch]

We love ogryn

[spare dome]

you try balancing a naval canon

[polar nexus]

Josho, Exhil, what's the best way to replicate a kickbak on vet or zealot?

[royal vortex]

the closest u can get is probably a manstopper lawbringer

[spare dome]

You can't.

[royal vortex]

but it's not

doing that

[lone pecan]

Am I wrong for wanting to kill the horde before the elevator or airlock, because it's uncertain what's behind it?

[royal vortex]

to ragers

[royal vortex]

normally u can just move on

the hordes usually don't pull enough stuff that can threaten u on its own anyways

[coarse birch]

just dont get stuck in the elevator

[placid salmon]

what is PA though lol

[royal vortex]

push attack

[polar nexus]

manstopper + no respite / scattershot?

[placid salmon]

ah

[royal vortex]

yea

[lone pecan]

Thing is if there are 5 crushers waiting behind the door I would rather only deal with those and not them and the horde

[coarse birch]

eh if somebody brought something to deal with crushers your pretty fine

[royal vortex]

ur going to have to deal with the 5 crushers regardless

[dawn wharf]

Oh hell yeah hope ya liked it!

[coarse birch]

hordes can be deleted very easily

even with other shit around

[polar nexus]

what if i add marksman focus for the finesse?

[royal vortex]

a horde on its own shouldn't be threatening u in any meaningful capacity and is the least important force multiplier

[lone pecan]

Yes, but I also have to deal with the horde regardless

[polar nexus]

i don't remeber if you said it but there's a bug with the flechette kant

[ripe quest]

Lawby w/ Scattershot + Man-Stopper, dump stability.

[lone pecan]

It's not, which is why I want to kill it before the door where it's not blocking us in if there is something nasty waiting

[dawn wharf]

Oh, no I'm not sure I'm aware of it tbh

[royal vortex]

in the vast majority of situations nothing bad happens by adding poxwalkers to it

[polar nexus]

you won't get the infinite cleave on the flechette without manstopper

[royal vortex]

crushers u dont even really need space to dodge anyways

[dawn wharf]

Oooooh interesting and weird

[royal vortex]

because u can do it stationary

[ripe quest]

Only on the fire round.

ig it's a given

[polar nexus]

yeah, in that case

[coarse birch]

if you get so surrounded by a horde you literally cant dodge you probably just positioned wrong tbh

[royal vortex]

a lot of situations are also made easier by the presence of poxwalkers

[exotic portal]

power katana for zealot

[visual stream]

What would y'all say is the most FatSharkiest ability/talent? (unlisted effects)

[royal vortex]

if u get a firing line of gunners it is easier to do shit when the horde is eating their shots/giving you toughness

[ripe quest]

I feel like you can avoid that with literally any melee weapon rn

[polar nexus]

twbs

[ripe quest]

Even Knife could push out of it with PAs

[coarse birch]

yeah if you swing once

you have room

or push

[placid salmon]

what's the difference between green flames and scab flames (only asking here cause gen chat didn't answer lol)

[dark zealot]

no

[dawn wharf]

Hopefully they get that fixed. Would explain why it felt the bleed wasn't as consistent as it was supposed to be

[visual stream]

Is there one that has many unlisted/incorrectly described effects?

[dark zealot]

a lot

[visual stream]

Also I still think Thy Grenade Tinkering Be Swift was crazy

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/orochi-for-honor-samurai-ninja-katana-gif-3145232480289168527

[polar nexus]

RIP thy grenade

[ripe quest]

Judgement, Duellist, Fury of the Faithful, Stalwart on Blazing Piety.

[dawn wharf]

Corruption I think

[polar nexus]

stalwart?

[dark zealot]

bingo

[placid salmon]

currently green flames don't seem to corrupt

[ripe quest]

It gives an unlisted 2% extra toughness on any kill while Blazing Piety is up.

[placid salmon]

could be losing my mind tho

[royal vortex]

bro is duellist bugged???? no icon????

[polar nexus]

???? LOL

[ripe quest]

No w/ Duellist it's just giving fucking +100% critical weakspot damage

[dark zealot]

missed opportunity if they actually dont?

[ripe quest]

Yes FATSHARK I'd love a WHOLE ULT's worth of finesse on dodge YES

[visual stream]

I've learned to ask here first, our zoomer class chat has the wisest sages ironically enough

[polar nexus]

shred taxes gang!

[dawn wharf]

Are you running the Corruption Heal Aura? Otherwise totally possible they just made one green for fun lol

[coarse birch]

we need it

[dark zealot]

you think the other classes read?

[ripe quest]

on paper you can wipe so many Crushers with Duellist up

like an absurd amount

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/l56a5j

[polar nexus]

the only zealot zooming are vets new to the class discovering movement speed and stam regen

[coarse birch]

lol

you were in the backrooms for all of that mission

[royal vortex]

i was gettin tossed around in the warp

[dark zealot]

not relevant to the clip but one time i got launched on a map by a bomber up into the ceiling, if i remember right its the map with a bridge and elevator you have to survive for a while you wait for it and some enemies spawn from the ceiling above and jump down

[sterile dune]

im going to swap decimator for shred, the crit chance I can make what? carapace?

[coarse birch]

maniac

[polar nexus]

nah, swap deci for headtaker

[sterile dune]

ah thats right

why headtaker?

[polar nexus]

because it's power

[ripe quest]

Headtaker or Decimator, whichever you're more comfy with.

[visual stream]

I personally think it would be funny if you heard a larger, deeper woosh noise if it is a crusher flank attacking you

[ripe quest]

Deci will hit higher damage but will drop if you miss.

[visual stream]

B WOOOM

[sterile dune]

hmm alright

[ripe quest]

Enemy specific audio queues would do a lot of wonders with stuff like that

[polar nexus]

i would use shred on the taxe instead, because of the higher base crit and the attack speed

[ripe quest]

rn it's okish since most enemies will like, scream or have a distinct gun noise

[dark zealot]

they are nice but also try playing without them and the games kinda cringé

[ripe quest]

But a common complaint that I hear is that new players have like shitty visibility and none of the sounds make sense. The current state of the audio system doesn't help.

[coarse birch]

i dont have issues with current audio stuff when it like

works

[dark zealot]

ngl i play with headphones off and youtube playing on another device

if i die to something with an auido queue... skill issue

didnt deserve to win the auric run anyway

[sterile dune]

telopots use shred on his taxe =X

obviously I'm nowhere as good as him but yeah

[visual stream]

It only took one crusher flank attack on my un-optimized veteran (one-shotted from full hp/tough) to instill the fear of Emprah in every flank audio cue

[visual stream]

This is true, I just think they need to make specialists and bursters louder than the horde, like almost as obvious as hook rats

Currently it seems like random groaner #391 gets more priority than a trapper/burster until they're almost as close

[placid salmon]

it's nice actually being able to hear voicelines from unimportant enemies though

[ripe quest]

I'd be careful with using Youtuber stuff. In this case Telopots is experienced with the game, from what I've seen ChocoB kinda is too. But they're both past the skill level where you can run literally anything that's fun. You can also run into just like, content farm people that actively preach that bleed knife is the most busted thing in the game.

[north sedge]

the audio system is pushed past it's limit, when it's working its fine but in aurics there's too many specials so some audio cues just dont play

[royal vortex]

the crusher murderer

[placid salmon]

yeah I've noticed that some sounds just drop, like I'll use voice of command and it won't play the bassy sound indicating it's been used

[ripe quest]

Dude idk what was happening but I was playing with Argus and my audio shit itself so hard. I could only hear bullet casings and poxburster spawn noises.

[placid salmon]

it's a weird bug to experience in a game that came out in 2022

[frank night]

the canned air plasma exp

[vivid hawk]

it ain't perfect, but having fun mowing things down and charging everything

[frank night]

well the sound used to work fine

but then they injected black tar into the ai director

and there is now like 5x the amount of stuff wanting to make a noise

[sterile dune]

agreed

[ripe quest]

Duellist + Fury of the Faithful and Judgement = like 8 crushers per mag

balling

[dark zealot]

kinda funny when people complain about audio and amd graphics drivers crash almost everytime i play at least once

[sterile dune]

I don't follow most youtube stuff

[royal vortex]

however

blazing piety

[placid salmon]

duelist is insanely good

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-papas-pizzeria-papas-freezeria-memes2022funny-gif-25861802

[dark zealot]

its weird to think he was just an esports player at one point

[hollow fulcrum]

heavy evis XV, shred/rampage?

I asked this yesterday, but was intoxicated at the time lmao

also, perks ideally maniac/carapace?

[visual stream]

I think about that sometimes too

dud

[ripe quest]

Ramp + Shred works fine yeah. You can have anything for the 2nd blessing except Rev it Up, Bloodletter, and Perfect Strike. For perks Flak + Elites/Maniac/Unyielding, Carapace can be nice with Bloodthirsty for easier Crusher 1 shot chaining.

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/akos-tazer-mikulas-tazermikulas-koleszterin-gif-19992178

[hollow fulcrum]

thanks man

[dark zealot]

thats cursed

[median steeple]

what an axe

[north sedge]

worth a roll

[dark zealot]

i mean if anything it will give me a blessing for the collection, hopefully

[polar nexus]

true, but like there's fun stuff with shred and taxes, melee dmg nodes + vet's right tree works well with it (recipro, desperado, exploit weakness). Same with crits and psyker.

[sterile dune]

I'm actually using it for a gunker build =X

but I had to ask in zealot because psykers dont know taxes

[polar nexus]

best one is mk2

[ripe quest]

Don't the force swords have Shred?

[ripe quest]

They're also finesse weapons.

[dark zealot]

given what they get, im not surprised

[polar nexus]

and duelling swords

[sterile dune]

yeah i have this mkii

[polar nexus]

but what if you don't want to use them

[sterile dune]

I have a great dueling sword but this works amazing

[polar nexus]

that's a caxe not a taxe

just put maniac and headtaker on it

[dark zealot]

time to run it down mid

[median steeple]

damn

[sterile dune]

oh yeah you're right lol

[polar nexus]

the workman utility chaxe

[dark zealot]

the real question is if we take another hit and see if we get stamina

[sterile dune]

the caxe is slower is the biggest drawback

not sure on attack pattern,

[polar nexus]

the rashad is a bit faster than the antax

[sterile dune]

I'll reroll for a taxe, I saw rashad mkii and axe hah

[dark zealot]

i mean i have this one sitting around anyway so not a big loss

[fading vale]

Rashad caxe is one of the best weapons in the game hands down

[median steeple]

a possible juicer

[fading vale]

much better than a taxe

[dark zealot]

(only 3 dashes)

[sterile dune]

well thats good to know, I'll keep it then

[obtuse stirrup]

Unless you can't get one with the right bastard stats on it

Bromentum is shit if you can't one-shot every swarmy type

[north sedge]

pretty low bar to pass on zealot

[obtuse stirrup]

Although Zealot has it much easier than the other Rashad users tbf

Yeah lol

[sterile dune]

I think pysker can make decent use of it with scriers gaze and disrupt destiny tbh

[ripe quest]

I'm fully certain you can rock a 0 damage stat Rashad and hit those fodder BPs if you build for it

[sterile dune]

thats why I went shred

just need to change melee crit chance to maniac

[vocal pulsar]

new chaxe is one of my fav weapons

[sterile dune]

psylot

[vocal pulsar]

along with deimos

[sterile dune]

the sparky zealot

[vocal pulsar]

being able to one shot everything without chastise is amazing

[polar nexus]

no

[sterile dune]

how come?

[tired hawk]

I’m pretty new to the class, I’m curious what all is considered meta at the moment if there is one

Not that I want to play to it because that’s lame but I’m curious regardless

[polar nexus]

your base crit is not that with it, and bm doesn't not give you infinite cleave now

[coarse birch]

Hsword/combat axe are our top 2 weapons

[vocal pulsar]

@tired hawk you'll want this x3

[tired hawk]

I see

[polar nexus]

i'd rather use a shred claw with dd

[vocal pulsar]

unless you are doing martyrdom, then you want 3x wound curios

[tired hawk]

What makes hsword good

[coarse birch]

below that id say its a large mix of the chain weapons/dclaw

[vocal pulsar]

but with the same perks

[coarse birch]

crusher

hammer

most stuff is good

[tired hawk]

Eviscerator?

[quick mango]

Gunner resistance... That's not something you want to x3

[vocal pulsar]

both evis' are great

[dark zealot]

what should i replace on this knife?

[tired hawk]

Solid

[vocal pulsar]

yes it is

[coarse birch]

you want gunner resist x3

[polar nexus]

you'll get crits with, you just won't do better than a headtaker rashad caxe

[coarse birch]

mankar posted a pretty much perfect curio

it is perfect actually

[polar nexus]

so want do you prefer? kill faster or crit faster?

[tired hawk]

Where can I find it

[vocal pulsar]

@tired hawk

[coarse birch]

^

[royal vortex]

6

[vocal pulsar]

6

[dark zealot]

oh my

[coarse birch]

shut

[tired hawk]

Swag

[vocal pulsar]

gunners are a threat to every class, especially zealot

[dark zealot]

then again...

[coarse birch]

theres also not much to put in its place

[quick mango]

Except diminishing returns

[coarse birch]

like one sniper res ig?

[polar nexus]

just dodge lasers

[vocal pulsar]

20% resist x 3 = 48% (when factoring in diminishing return)

[dark zealot]

just parry them

[tired hawk]

I’m currently running martyrdom, I’m assuming it would be more or less the same but with wounds instead of toughness, correct?

[quick mango]

I'd replace all 3 by stam rgen or block eff. You already are tanky

[coarse birch]

yeah you want like 7 wounds

[dark zealot]

thats still a huge reduction though

[vocal pulsar]

exactly the same

[coarse birch]

what do you need block effic for

[tired hawk]

Figured

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-qui-gon-jin-dodge-lightsaber-star-wars-gif-16333751

[vocal pulsar]

i run this x3 on martyr

[tired hawk]

Does it matter what gun you run with

[north sedge]

Who cares about stam regen and especially block eff

[tired hawk]

I’m a big fan of the auto pistol atm

[dark zealot]

it makes sense almost everything else you can out skill

[vocal pulsar]

yes

[vocal pulsar]

autopistol has been left in the dust

[dark zealot]

but if theres gunners you will get hit

[coarse birch]

try an iag when you get a chance, pretty much better autopistol

[tired hawk]

Really?

[coarse birch]

namely columnus

[median steeple]

that one guy who fought to the death about how good blocking is

[tired hawk]

Yeah I use IAG on my vet

Usually graia

[vocal pulsar]

i iwll post my iag

[quick mango]

Diminished even more by toughness dmg reduction. It is trash. The difference with x3 or not isn't even half a second against a gunner. Do the test yourself and see the (non-existent) difference

[tired hawk]

I’m not a huge fan of the braced

[coarse birch]

braced is good but they are more aggressive

[dark zealot]

if you need to tank a daemonhost sure

[coarse birch]

imo

[tired hawk]

Yeah

[dark zealot]

but you shouldnt be tanking a daemonhost

[tired hawk]

It feels too slow to be aggressive imo

[median steeple]

the only time someone is tanking a DH is a slab og

[ripe quest]

If you want a pretty much 1:1 autopistol but bigger the Graia Brauto will do it. Columnus IAG hits super hard with the finesse hits though due to the IAGs being like that.

[median steeple]

and still

[dark zealot]

if you have the idol

just shove it

one time the team was freaking out cause i did that but i just baited it to a ledge

[lethal totem]

been doing really well with this weird stealth blazing piety throwing knife bolter build

[dark zealot]

really dumb how something that teleports can just fall like that

[tired hawk]

Obviously I’m going to get some bias here but from what I can tell thus far zealot has the highest skill ceiling

[dark zealot]

whats better enduring faith or second wind?

[vocal pulsar]

nah

[tired hawk]

I’ve maxed two psykers and a vet and so far zealot seems that way

[polar nexus]

i don't like to quote reddit but hey

[lethal totem]

which is harder

[median steeple]

the ceiling for the game isnt very high

[tired hawk]

I mean fair

[coarse birch]

probably not but classes arent really all that complex

[tired hawk]

This is true

[vocal pulsar]

zealot has so many get out of jail free cards, and dmg resist

[lethal totem]

if you say vet you are braindead

[tired hawk]

That’s a good point I suppose

[vocal pulsar]

made a bad mistake? oh well ,you get until death

[tired hawk]

So would that make it psyker

[ripe quest]

A lot of the the skills in this game that do have a high skill ceiling aren't class specific.

[fleet zealot]

For maximum curio value i run 1x sniper 1x gunner 1x corruption

[royal vortex]

zealot generally requires u to be more on top of melee mechanics/movement

however

all the classes need this to some degree

[median steeple]

^

[fleet zealot]

I think vet and psyker have the possibility for hardest mechanics

[tired hawk]

Depends on what your teammates are

[coarse birch]

ogryn

[vocal pulsar]

as someone who's maxed psyker, vet, and zealot, psyker definitely takes the most skill imo

[dark zealot]

you have a "dont die every two minutes skill"

[fleet zealot]

But they have to spec specifically for it

[royal vortex]

the difference general comes down to what skills each class highlights

[tired hawk]

I suppose. I never found it all that difficult though

[ripe quest]

Ogryn getting a nerfed diagonal run makes me so out of the element whenever I play them.

[tired hawk]

Tbf I haven’t really found a build I like though

[fleet zealot]

Vet with aiming and psyker with juggling and peril

[royal vortex]

you have to learn to operate a guy who is significantly slower and more awkward to deal with than every other class

[lethal totem]

vet and og are pretty braindead to be decent at, then you go like zealot then psyker

and thats not by a ton between zealot and psyker

[tired hawk]

I’ve definitely had the most fun with zealot

[royal vortex]

if ur not trying to get dogged every 30 seconds you have to be able to handle the god awful way ogryn feels

it's the worst kind of mechanics to have to learn

[ripe quest]

Move like brick swing like brick

[coarse birch]

his swinging never felt too bad for me

but he is like sluggish overall

[vivid hawk]

not 17%

[vocal pulsar]

i just cant bring myself to play ogryn

too slow, too braindead

[median steeple]

depends on the weapon mostly

[tired hawk]

Agreed

[lethal totem]

og is fun

[quick mango]

Dude really made an essay to prove gunner res is good IF you play like a tree and face tank gunners? Bruh I'm not following that advice.

[dark zealot]

ever gone out of your way to dodge a dog by using the ogryn?

[lethal totem]

you just need to be in the mood for it

[tired hawk]

I see the appeal though

[dark zealot]

its reddit...

[coarse birch]

hes got some fun weapons his tree is just not appealing

and his playstyle got old for me quickly

[dark zealot]

wdym

you have

[lethal totem]

trading gunner res for like block eff or stamina or ability regen is so bad lol

[dark zealot]

ROCk

[coarse birch]

rock is good

[ripe quest]

I'm not a fan of the delays that are put in on some weapons. Movement can be sluggish and I sleep but the second that my inputs don't properly correlate to what I want to do I get nauseous playing them.

[dark zealot]

no rock is great

[north sedge]

ok but imagine, you could block those 3 times per match even better with block eff

[quick mango]

Except it's more useful than a void perk

[median steeple]

I HATE BLOCK EFF

JUST DODGE

GRAAAAAAAAAH

[royal vortex]

they need to rework rock to cleave bad guys

[dark zealot]

just block the crusher

[quick mango]

This tho

[lethal totem]

block eff is very strong

[royal vortex]

i am sick and tired of my fkin rocks stopping on a random bruiser

[coarse birch]

it should at least cleave certain hitmasses

like

[royal vortex]

when i am trying to hit a special

[lethal totem]

block eff and stamina regen very nice

[coarse birch]

the poxwalker is not stopping my concrete block

full stop

[median steeple]

give maulers the ability to parry fuck it

[ripe quest]

Could give it Ironhelm and Evis rev cleave.

[dark zealot]

wont stop a knife, stops a big rock

thats fatshark logic

[ripe quest]

High cleave values, instantly stops on a special or elite.

[lethal totem]

knife is folded 1000 times

[royal vortex]

if only

[polar nexus]

i run stam regen and gunner resist, so i have it both way. I can facetank or slide dodge

[median steeple]

knife players playing shadow of the colossus every time they see a crusher

[lethal totem]

but gunner resist doesnt do much

[spare dome]

3x sprint and block efficiency bby

[coarse birch]

this guy plays knife

[lethal totem]

and you forgo ability regen/sprint efficiency/etc

[median steeple]

make sure to run up to bombers to get kicked so you can get bomber resist value guys

[quick mango]

Ability Regen is BiS

[polar nexus]

stam regen > sprint eff

[lethal totem]

I don't run knife

having one sprint eff node is comfy

[dark zealot]

its like that clip of the horizon boss fight

[quick mango]

Stam Regen second then sprint/block eff

[polar nexus]

useless with the amount of cdr you can get

[lethal totem]

especially if you have swift certainty

[median steeple]

absolutely magnificent

[vocal pulsar]

i wouldnt say useless, i'd say almost useless

[lethal totem]

wrong but ok

[coarse birch]

yeah CDR is not hard to come by

[dark zealot]

but they are right

[woeful oyster]

What is the single best bossing blessing for either Eviscerator?? Bloodletter.

[quick mango]

Makes you tank more than gunner res

[dark zealot]

12% is nothing

[lethal totem]

12% more ability is bad?

over like a 20 minute game its very impactful

[ripe quest]

mmm, it's not much 12% faster ults is bad but rather using 3 perk slots to get that 12% is a bit sour.

[lethal totem]

what should I be running instead

[polar nexus]

compared to more tg, more hp or more stam regen? kinda

[dark zealot]

26.4s for a 30s cd

thats two crits

[lethal totem]

just have stam regen and ability regen ezpz

[quick mango]

+15 hp poggggg so useful

[median steeple]

ho

[polar nexus]

+15hp on a 200 base

[vocal pulsar]

no point in stam regen on zealot

[ripe quest]

I recall running the numbers and all 3 CDR nodes we have would equal or outpace that perk cdr

[dark zealot]

its negligible

[vocal pulsar]

zealot already regens stam so fast

[polar nexus]

not the best, not the worse

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[quick mango]

What is HP when you can spam golden toughness

[lethal totem]

but it can regen even faster

[dark zealot]

39.6s from 45s i could kinda get

[lethal totem]

having +3stam and regen is really noticeable

[vocal pulsar]

what do you need that much stam for

[median steeple]

stam glutton

[polar nexus]

yeah but when you have tested 36% regen stam... it's a drug

[lethal totem]

kiting

blocking

[vocal pulsar]

i paly the game aggressively

[lethal totem]

sprinting

[vocal pulsar]

and never find that i need more stam as zealot

[dark zealot]

wait am i doing the cdr math right?

[lethal totem]

you dont run a +3stam?

[median steeple]

you can sprint with no stam anyway

[polar nexus]

chorus user? oO

[vocal pulsar]

hell no

[lethal totem]

but its slower

[median steeple]

still faster than walking

[vocal pulsar]

zelaot already has plenty of stam

zealot has decent base stam and great base stam regen

[quick mango]

Nah just have a single veteran in the team

[dark zealot]

or is it 96% of 45, then 96% of 43.2, etc?

[polar nexus]

not a given

[ripe quest]

duration * (1 - CDR)
30s * 0.88 = 26.4s

[lethal totem]

if you have heavier weapons like the thammer or evis is helps a ton when you're kiting/push blocking a ton for horde control

plus just moving around faster for the entire game is strong

[dark zealot]

so the damage resistances are done the other way?

or a different way from that even?

[ripe quest]

DR is multiplied together then used as a direct mod to damage taken.

[polar nexus]

you can get away with no stam regen on zealot, if you chose to use those perks it's just reinforcing something you're already goot at, unlike vet who really likes stam curios and stam regen

[ripe quest]

So 3x gunner resistance is 0.8^3

then you multiply damage taken by that

[lethal totem]

I mean I dont know how you get better at stam regen while fighting a boss

[dark zealot]

honestly zealot doesnt need more stamina at all

[lethal totem]

you just need the node to get it quicker lol

[dark zealot]

what are you going to do with it?

[polar nexus]

i mean it's a choice, and i value stam regen more than hp on a zealot

[dark zealot]

you already run faster than the team

[lethal totem]

you dodge around a plague og to hold them in place

can like run around picking up mats super quick

[vocal pulsar]

you can do this with base zealot

[lethal totem]

yeah but its even more consistent with regen

[dark zealot]

the point ^

[polar nexus]

i go like toughness > stam regen/gunner resist > hp on my curios

[dark zealot]

i didnt say regen, i said more stamina...

even then

[quick mango]

Mobility > HP I think that's the point

[north sedge]

🤔

[dark zealot]

but you already are the most mobile?

[lethal totem]

I would just try it

[quick mango]

Being the fastest doesn't make you the most consistent

[lethal totem]

slot in a +3 stam, swap out trash gunner resist for stam regen or block eff

[north sedge]

i've never been like "aw fuck i'd have survived with 1 more stam" but i've certainly been like "ooh a little more hp would have been nice"

[ripe quest]

A problem with stamina regen and it's siblings are that you aren't really punished for having little stamina in the first place. You can PA on 0% stamina and unless you're trying to just hold block against ragers I don't think you get outpaced enough to get hit while blocking at 0%, you just get the stun animation.

[vocal pulsar]

stam regen i could see, in a way. but block eff is very goofy

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-cat-gif-8216273864367202904

[polar nexus]

yeah i know, you don't need it

[lethal totem]

3 block eff you can get ambushed by a rager pack, take like 12 hits and backdash away instead of getting stuck in place

and other auric meme surprises

like it just gives you a lot more space/time

[dark zealot]

krill issue

just expect them

and already kill them clearly

[lethal totem]

[vocal pulsar]

i just chastise and gun them down

[polar nexus]

someone has seen tanner's videos

[vocal pulsar]

or chastise away

[lethal totem]

yeah you can I guess

[ripe quest]

You can backpedal that without block eff

[vocal pulsar]

and if chastise is down, i can usually get away from them, anyway

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-underwater-animals-gif-3553443

[quick mango]

Block eff is pretty situational , it's mostly for chaos spawn or that one dude triggering dh. One helps, 3 is overkill. Still better than gunner res

[dark zealot]

honestly hp/tougness curios just mean i can care less and have more fun being reckless

stamina regen doesnt really help that

[visual stream]

Ya know one of these days I'll put in the research and testing to make a comprehensive Ironhelm guide

One of these days

[polar nexus]

usually you are not supposed to be suprised by a rager pack, they're kinda loud

[dark zealot]

and id rather get more ordos than have faster stamina regen

[quick mango]

Based

[dark zealot]

(again we have lots of stamina and i aint planning on getting in a bad position to need it, even then thats my fault anyway, i deserve to die there for overextending)

[ripe quest]

I mean, it can happen if you're overextending sometimes. Holding w into enemies has gotten me into a pickle with patrols but you can just backpedal enough to prep for them.

[olive raven]

has to be bait

[median steeple]

wait

we can use stickers from other servers now

[dark zealot]

anyway, enduring faith or second wind, thoughts?

[median steeple]

what does SW do again?

[olive raven]

15% toughness on dodge

[polar nexus]

second wind > enduring faith if you have to chose

[median steeple]

ah

[olive raven]

id take that over enduring

[median steeple]

yeah between the two take SW

[olive raven]

as enduring relying on crits

[polar nexus]

oO

no?

[dark zealot]

i mean im gonna be critting?

[olive raven]

yes?

[olive raven]

its also that

[polar nexus]

i was thinking about restoring faith sorry

[olive raven]

TDR gets calculated

very weirdly

second wind is better overall as maintaining toughness = less damage overall

aka better damage reduction

[polar nexus]

if you can have crits easily just take both, if not take second wind

[olive raven]

most crit builds ive seen take both tho

[polar nexus]

yeah

then twbs and good balance

[median steeple]

god I love twbs

[dark zealot]

my problem is i see the perks further up and want to grab them all

[polar nexus]

i would go loner momentum...

[lethal totem]

dont do that

[quick mango]

Why BoP again?

[dark zealot]

momentum?

[placid salmon]

momentum is pretty good

Inexorable Judgment if you want he exact name

[polar nexus]

judgement

[dark zealot]

i know loner would be more efficient just i expect to get corrupted by stupidity

[dark zealot]

right im an idiot

[median steeple]

yakuza jumpscare

[sharp zodiac]

10 years in the joint

[polar nexus]

corruption is that not a problem with green stims, heal stations...

[dark zealot]

even when i play zealot and go in hard, the people backlining still take them

[quick mango]

Don't go in hard and teamplay then xD

[dark zealot]

i could be under 50% hp and you bet that vet/psyker thats close to 100% is taking it

[ripe quest]

Was like 'wow CS is hard with a Thammer and no talents' during a meme brainstorm and I kinda forgot how easy it is to clown on them with an actual setup.

[dark zealot]

okay but its not a problem if i have my pocket heal

[median steeple]

CS spawn only really becomes a problem if the area its in is ass

[ripe quest]

same with BoN

[quick mango]

As zealot you should be first to hoard items= stims no?

[ripe quest]

Though CS having a forward facing weakspot + lower HP does make it less annoying.

[dark zealot]

you think im getting that medipack either?

[placid salmon]

I don't like loner on principle tbh

[quick mango]

Skill (theft) issue then

[unborn depot]

I had one in the torrent that died while lifting me up, and my character was released in an inaccessible part of the map. I couldn't even kill myself.

[dark zealot]

thats kinda why i avoid it

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/release-me-far-cry-5-crying-screaming-nutting-gif-7759256987725887902

[dark zealot]

its passively being a troll

and barrels exist anyway

[median steeple]

I do not like fighting bosses in the torrent

[placid salmon]

I wish loner promoted separating from the team in a way that didn't just remove a bonus you give to them (and yourself for that matter)

[median steeple]

but maybe thats because I do not like the torrent

[dark zealot]

why give the team a buff to help everyone not die, when you can take a buff thats only helpful when you do bad things that generally 99% of the time screw the team

[polar nexus]

happened to me in a lift... i went through the ceiling

[dark zealot]

(and the best part? if you didnt take that buff the teams probably not dead invaliding half of that 1% use case)

[polar nexus]

fuck the torrent and that beginning in the stairs

[median steeple]

I mean you could run benediction

[placid salmon]

I get why it exists, you're supposed to kill specials in melee to help the team

[violet hornet]

imo this is the hardest shit

[placid salmon]

so you kinda NEED to separate

[unborn depot]

the stairs is, in fact, where I got completely fucked

[violet hornet]

or at least it was when enemies would riddle you through the mesh

[frozen glen]

make sure to have your vpn on while going through the torrent

[ripe quest]

+20% backstab damage for you and allies in coherency, your coherency aura radius is increased by 150%.

[placid salmon]

i wish it were like, it buffed your team every time you melee kill an elite/special no matter your location

[median steeple]

I sure do love 2 reapers and 10 gunners all sitting there when im fighting ragers in a small area

[placid salmon]

could be tuff to balance tho

[polar nexus]

yeah after that you get a spawn or a bon with 2 trappers, 3 bombers, and a wall of shooters in a dead end

[ripe quest]

I just kinda want it to allow overextending to do the whole stealth role + it being an actual coherency aura.

[dark zealot]

shield of contempt really could be the aura

it basically is one anyway

[quick mango]

Encouraging people to split isn't the smartest move indeed. Imo as long as it's anything benefiting allies, even psychologically, it'd be better.

[dark zealot]

or even just move it above loner and under twbs

that way a loner build can provide some benefit through coherency to the team some of the time

rather than nothing, all of the time

[polar nexus]

you don't have to use stealth and zoom further

[dark zealot]

but it only provides a benefit when no one is around?

[quick mango]

Except shield of contempt doesn't really "fit" the right side of the tree trying to be the stealth part

[polar nexus]

loner, yeah, but you can take soc

[dark zealot]

really the stagger fits?

[quick mango]

Weakspot related more that stagger

[dark zealot]

yeah man i really wished the knife staggered more

everything else already has stagger out the ass

[quick mango]

Also stagger enables escapes I guess ...

[polar nexus]

with that you can be useful alone and in a team

[quick mango]

Imo a mobility aura would be a dream

[dark zealot]

thats kinda close to what i have ended up with

[quick mango]

Like 4 or 5% dodge distance, simple as that

[dark zealot]

+5% more movement speed

[north sedge]

judgement gives dodge bonus already

[fleet zealot]

similar something happened in the torrent, in the big cylinder building chaos spawn threw me on the roof out of bounds, I managed to actually run across and get back on the map, only for me to apparently have crossed another threshold for another chaos spawn to spawn in

[quick mango]

Vet already have ms aura tho

[dark zealot]

this still feels crappy for the team

[fleet zealot]

5% dodge distance would be nothing really

[dark zealot]

and im saying that aura sucks too

[median steeple]

please no more +5% (insert random thing here) auras please

[polar nexus]

you could go left bp and give everyone 5% crit

[gilded bough]

I can't for the life of me find a stam curio for my zealot

[vocal pulsar]

good thing zealot doesnt need stam

[quick mango]

Mostly because ammo is much more valuable, and surrounding points too

[gilded bough]

Trying really hard to not use the r word right now

[vocal pulsar]

lmfao

[polar nexus]

the ARR word?

like the pirates?

[dark zealot]

still thats two points for what the psyker does by existing forever

[median steeple]

holy shit pirate spotted alert the marines

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-pirates-day-chuckmccarthy-arrr-gif-10893476421774942887

[dark zealot]

also need to have blazing piety up for them to benefit

[median steeple]

"like the vikings"

[gilded bough]

Especially considering right BP is aprox 1000 times better

[dark zealot]

i guess i toughness gate better?

[polar nexus]

well that's an aura... and the crit cdr one is good too

[polar nexus]

yeah, wrong bearded dudes

[dark zealot]

the other side would get my stealth back faster on average and then give me this more

[gilded bough]

All curios I have are crappy wound ones from back when I thought martyrdom would be usable

[dark zealot]

one pluders the land, the other the seas

[polar nexus]

i know, but hey it's a choice

[median steeple]

too many big bearded men plundering throughout history

[dark zealot]

i like hp more but got two really good tougness ones

shame the ordos rolls werent perfect

[gilded bough]

I'm coming around to run a health, a stam and a toughness curio on everyone lately and noticing my performance drastically going up

Like having stam makes me die way, way less, which leads to me not even needing the wound curio in the first place

[polar nexus]

that's better on vet and psyker

[dark zealot]

which one?

[polar nexus]

hp + stam + tg

that's good on psyker and vet

you don't really need a stam curio on zealot and ogryns

[dark zealot]

well thats the build i guess

[gilded bough]

Need ? Maybe not, I dunno. But to me having stam and ways to manage it better is what I want even on zealot

Like

[dark zealot]

i wanna try the other the revolver but get terible rolls every time

[gilded bough]

There's a reason you run BCR on every class in vermintide 2

[polar nexus]

well this is why i run stam regen and not stam curios on zealot

[visual stream]

true (what is BCR)

[gilded bough]

Both

[gilded bough]

Block cost reduction, the equivalent to block efficiency

[polar nexus]

moving and dodging > staying immobile and blocking

not that you don't have to block

[gilded bough]

My comfortable setup is starting to be full cooldown reduction, full stam regen with occasional block efficiency if I can fit it

[dark zealot]

the good roll of this shop rotation

[gilded bough]

You know stam helps with the moving part

More stam is more sprint, more sprint is the horde not even getting to you

[dark zealot]

2nd place

[polar nexus]

i don't understand the concept of sprinting from a horde

just obliterate it

[dark zealot]

sprinting only helps when there is nothing to fight or to regroup faster

[quick mango]

Typical "Proceeds to die first"

[polar nexus]

that reload speed T_T

[dark zealot]

you already do that really well and when going from a to b, sprinting for longer just means waiting on the ogryn for longer

[gilded bough]

It's just setup work

[dark zealot]

and thats the 2nd best stat roll in the shop...

[polar nexus]

i mean it's useable if you only use it like a pocket sniper

and you are not magdumping left and right

[dark zealot]

tbf my current revolver isnt much better

[dark zealot]

well i plan to be stabbing most the time using the high weakpsot and finnese

[north sedge]

i setup for horde by hitting it, whats this running shit

[polar nexus]

the problem is that i see you running ahead to kill elites and aggroing more that you can manage with a knife and a revolver

then dying

so now, you have a 3 am team having to deal with more aggro and probably an increased spawn rate

[vocal pulsar]

i have seen this many, many times

josho and i have dealt with many of this type

on one match, we let them die

and didnt res them

and duo'd the rest of the mission

we made them watch

[median steeple]

awesome

[vocal pulsar]

it was a knife speed runner who kept on aggroing the whole map and getting downed/dying

and his psyker friend

[polar nexus]

if i go rev, i go horde clear melee, if i go knife, i go brauto or flamer or shotgun

[median steeple]

idk why people full focus onto single target weapons

[polar nexus]

T_T

[vocal pulsar]

it's cuz they wanna feel like a badass killing elites

but once the game turns to shit, they either fold

or fail to kill anything

and the rest of the team dies

[median steeple]

main character syndrome

[vocal pulsar]

then they are forced to try to clutch, in a situation they are responsible for

[south folio]

stamina for movement is also whatever because you always reset back to your full sprint speed after reentering a sprint, even at zero stamina, either from sliding, stopping your sprint and then sprinting again, or jumping

and if you're zealot, you have 75% of your sprint bonus at 0 stamina anyways

[polar nexus]

Mankar i have a question

[vocal pulsar]

shoot

[polar nexus]

at the begging of hab dreyko

just after the jump, before entering the building

there's platform with a broken staircase

there's another platform just in front of it

can you jump to reach it?

[vocal pulsar]

idk

[south folio]

i've made the jump once upon a time before but my future attempts all ended in failure

you can prob do it with enough practice and when you know the spot

[polar nexus]

ok because sometime you get a teamate thrown over there

[agile pivot]

its more badass to mulch swathes of everything in a single swing

[south folio]

there's also an easier way to get across there near the entrance to the building

i think

[median steeple]

More fun to be had killing homeless than armed soldiers

[dark zealot]

WTF

i just got kicked in the middle of a run or something

cause my internet didnt go out or anything

and its not given me the option to rejoin

[coarse birch]

the mission might have dropped

happens sometimes

[dark zealot]

thats so cringe

[spare dome]

it was targetted code against you

[ripe quest]

@fading vale @royal vortex out in the wild

[dark zealot]

the one session where amds drivers dont die

the server dies

[dark zealot]

its pefect

[royal vortex]

what level is he

[dark zealot]

well thats me done for the night, it was gonna be that one run

[ripe quest]

30

[royal vortex]

incredible

[dark zealot]

but im not starting another

[ripe quest]

er 39

[dark zealot]

ngl id make another zealot just to run auric damn with the worst low level gear

[vocal pulsar]

He's definitely making a second character

Cuz I did that with bolter when I finally leveled vet

[visual stream]

Maybe I need to inspect teammates more often

[median steeple]

Please do there are some hilarious load outs you can find

[coarse birch]

theres no way

[vocal pulsar]

I don't like inspecting because I see so many horrible load outs and I want to save those players from themselves, but I'm powerless to do so

[royal vortex]

i get randos with blues in my game

fairly often

[coarse birch]

yeah checking loadouts gives me brain damage

[royal vortex]

i did a hishock pub this morning and 2 dudes got netted to the same trapper

three times in a row

as in 3 separate nets not each guy getting netted 3 times

[vocal pulsar]

I guarantee that guy is levelling a second character

[royal vortex]

my fkin brain started melting

and then the dude was like

"AI director won't give me a break"

[vocal pulsar]

And is using blessings found on previous character

[royal vortex]

MOTHERFUCKER ITS 1 NETTER

[median steeple]

Calm down son

[royal vortex]

i wanted to have an aneurysm

[median steeple]

It's just a phase

[vocal pulsar]

Wth

[median steeple]

Why is that blocked

[visual stream]

Because it's a term referring to the condition of Ass burgers

[royal vortex]

this was the match

[north sedge]

i dont think anything has angered me as much as the knifer me and mankar had that bound ping to m1

[royal vortex]

it wasnt even that bad

[median steeple]

Wtf

[royal vortex]

it was just like

[median steeple]

Language is weird

[royal vortex]

why are u queueing for this mode

if u play like this

[vocal pulsar]

I had a game this morning with two people who kept on getting down at the start of mercantile

Before and during the first event

[royal vortex]

before

[visual stream]

I cope about winnable situations with this too but I have to actually be noticably bait and switched for me to resort to it

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[visual stream]

(Usually)

[vocal pulsar]

I said "neither of you belong in auric" and left

[visual stream]

Speaking of beginnings of missions I could maybe understand that happening in the beginning of The Torrent, that is the most horrendous mission start in the game imo

[royal vortex]

i just love the dude

who joined mid mission at the brewery on mercantile

runs up the stairs, starts losing a duel to a handful of shooters ( i watched his healthbar go down), and then he got dogged and left

like the moment he got dogged

...why? what is the point?

DUDE I GOT DISABLED, RESET DUDE RESET

RUN IS RUINED

[visual stream]

Waiter! More silent poxbursters, please!

[coarse birch]

dude why is chainsword the most annoying thing to make in the fucking world for me

[royal vortex]

u havent sacrificed enough teammates to the meat grinder

https://streamable.com/fwfa9x also this was funny

[coarse birch]

this is my least favorite game of all time

[royal vortex]

i love darktide

[coarse birch]

i want to unalive

ok i got shred flak on my chainsword

maybe i can make this work

[royal vortex]

nature is healing

[coarse birch]

for vet tho

and it was meant for a marksman build

hm

[ripe quest]

He ate shit against a dreg bruiser idk

[coarse birch]

exhil how good would shred be on new chainsword on vet

i forget how good chainsword crits are

[ripe quest]

Pretty bland but have ok multipliers for flak and cara. idk the build environment for Vet but you'd want Wrath + Shred.

[coarse birch]

i can make that work i

[ripe quest]

bro got assassinated before he could finish

https://tenor.com/view/rat-fancy-rat-storm-sniff-gif-13223124

[coarse birch]

ok no lasgun for me thats fine i didnt want it anyway

[visual stream]

He lives

[coarse birch]

unfortunately

sometimes i take breaks from needing to use the crafting system and im happy

[grizzled kiln]

what should i do with this for a crit build

[polar nexus]

I was abandoned twice after a solo clutch in hisg... 😦

[vocal pulsar]

@grizzled kiln tax (tax axe) is considered one of the worst weapons in the game currently

[grizzled kiln]

yeah but i think its fun

[indigo quartz]

25% flakiak

[cinder wedge]

gonna keep rolling for a 370+ but, are these good base stats for damn runs?

[grizzled kiln]

looks good hope hadron dont brick it

[polar nexus]

It's not about the stats on a hammer

You have one dead perk and on dead blessing

[cinder wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[cinder wedge]

yeah, was just wondering if crowd control was important at all

[polar nexus]

You want unyielding + flak/elites (maybe cara?) and thrust + slaughterer/headtaker

Crowd control is speed

[cinder wedge]

ahh, then that isnt important

didnt know that

[polar nexus]

On a slow weapon?

[grizzled kiln]

best hammer perk is thrust and what elses?

[cinder wedge]

I was playing with it and, didnt find it slow enough where its a problem

[sharp zodiac]

3k plasteel so far, 9 thousand more till my big spending

[polar nexus]

Well if you use martyrdom or inexorable judgement it's allright

[polar nexus]

Blessing. Thrust and slaughterer or headtaker

Big boss DMG is thrust + unyielding

[ripe quest]

The most fun I had was running white and green items for a bit

just running Aurics pushing myself. I didn't top damage often but I kept up it was super fun.

[coarse birch]

there goes all my plasteel

yeah i would do that with a premade

[ripe quest]

we should do that sometime lol

[coarse birch]

i would be down

ok shred/wrath is working on vet

need to get a new ranged weapon to go with it helbore wasnt working too good

[polar nexus]

Most fun was a knives and nades scab melee run 😄

The total bleed DMG was beyond 400k

[ripe quest]

I'd imagine a good ST weapon would pair well. Unironically I'd run a Boltgun or Plasma with principles of Chainsword in mind.

@zinc talon

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/seras-victoria-hellsing-gun-gif-12828247

[sharp zodiac]

BIG MAN??

L-like the OGRYN

"GO GET EM BIG MAN"

[cinder wedge]

we all love the slabs

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah....we do...

But some....

Hhhrrnnnng..can be special

Not in a good way

[royal vortex]

Hhhrrnnnng

[cinder wedge]

hhrrrnnng

are we talking about the toxic ogryn players

[sharp zodiac]

Yes

Also the bad ones I keep seeing

that may just my prejudice speaking tho

[cinder wedge]

dont worry, if they were in universe they would probably be killed by the class they play as for being a prick

[placid salmon]

I've met 1 toxic player so far and it was an ogryn lol

[sharp zodiac]

Tho ofc there are good ogryns

Hm

[cinder wedge]

most of my toxic encounters were john darktides or speedrun zealots

[sharp zodiac]

I actually don't recall whom the most toxic class I see in terms of players

Never thought about it

[cinder wedge]

me neither

I've ran into more asshole zealots now that I think about it which makes me sad cause, I'm a zealot main

[sharp zodiac]

I never see any dickbeaver psykers

Then again

I rarely see psykers

Unless I'm playing psyker

[cinder wedge]

yeah, psykers are cool

[coarse birch]

i swear darktide is out to test my patience today

[cinder wedge]

lmfao what happened

[coarse birch]

please give me nothing but gunners and reapers when i am trying to clutch 😭

[cinder wedge]

really? Its decently often I get put into teams with 3 of them

feels like I'm being babysat

watching them do all the work

[sharp zodiac]

When I play on NA I do see psykers

[rigid trellis]

a small part of me dies inside when a chaos spawn shows up while trying to clutch

[sharp zodiac]

Just Eu it's not as frequent

[cinder wedge]

ahh, didnt think about the region difference

[sharp zodiac]

Except when I play psyker then I encounter a psyker or two whom have the exact same loadout for some reason how the hell do you have the same curios too doppelganger

[cinder wedge]

got into a game a few days ago where three of us had purgatus staffs

[sharp zodiac]

Usually a psyker I play with who uses the same blitz leaves

Guess they don't want to "compete"

Or smth

[rigid trellis]

if it bothers them that much they should have another loadout specifically for a different blitz

[sharp zodiac]

I have one of each blitz

[cinder wedge]

350 hours and I still havent mastered the chaos spawns moveset

well

[sharp zodiac]

And columnus

[cinder wedge]

no, thats a lie

[sharp zodiac]

That's a blitz too

[cinder wedge]

beast of nurgle, I think

that fucking tail slam always gets me

[cinder wedge]

the way the big e intended

[rigid trellis]

BoN is doable just really slow solo, you gotta bait his vomit n dodge slide sideways, get a few hits in on his face and repeat but I can't solo a chaos spawn without a dclaw

haven't really practised too much without a dclaw though tbf

[sharp zodiac]

In terms of soloing it definitely is

Shrek
Gary the snail
Evil nutsack

[cinder wedge]

its really funny to just lock a plogryn into one attack

[coarse birch]

yeah bon is annoying plogryn is w/e and cspawn is pretty awful

[sharp zodiac]

That's not their names you fucking dinglebingle

But yes

You are true

[copper hawk]

holy freakin bingle

[sharp zodiac]

We are NOT getting the no fly list again

[coarse birch]

did you just call me a fucking dinglebingle

ur a dinglebingle

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-fucking-bingle-bingle-nofly-list-sprigatito-gif-27455745

[royal vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1199872795308466276/image0.gif

[copper hawk]

astaghfirullah

[sharp zodiac]

WOWWW

[copper hawk]

kill the Josher

[royal vortex]

i am innocent

[sharp zodiac]

Dingle on Bingle violence

[cinder wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-gif-24919852

[grizzled kiln]

emprah just gifted this to me

[sharp zodiac]

Tell him to bite down on a mystical Asian cow and hike to yorktown

[placid salmon]

is mercy killer like, good?

[sharp zodiac]

Yes

[placid salmon]

I have a knife that has mercy killer 4 and ruthless backstab 3, kinda pigeonholes me into using Scourge but it's a good talent so

[sharp zodiac]

But LACERATE

IS EQUIVALENT TO STICKING A THUMBTACK

IN YOUR TOENAIL

AND KICKING YOUR DOOR