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OwO
Raaah ferret blast
UwU
dont encourage him
im sorry, but...
no...
arco is the worst
by far
worst "person"
in this server
and maybe, perhaps even the world
i'll work to change that
hello fellow darktiders how’s it going
was that hadron
@rotund vortex crush his skull
is there a difference between a weapon reducing enemy hit mass and a weapon gaining cleave
people told me shock & awe is really bad on Thammer
you dont need that on Thammer
replaced with Thrust
and crit damage with unyelding
and done
the 52% dmg is...
nah, i'll just skip that one, base stat too low
just grab blessing for stamp collection then
^
shock & awe on a crucis is madness
as in bad?
yes
It's not good on ironhelm either
i have it already 
they're basically just multiplicative inverses of each other
REAL math is 2+2
NOT some letters and percents and other SHIT that's not supposed to be with NUMBERS
"Ah yes Gregory good job when calculating 35° from 90° and finding the percent equivalent to reach 180" THAT IS NOT REAL
maff
"Ah yes Gregory good job when calculating 35° from 90° and finding the percent equivalent to reach 180"
Statements dreamed up by the utterly DERANGED
wasnt gregory that cockroach from Metamorphosis
I..I don't know I just picked a random nerd like name
smh your knowledge of mid modern absurdist german literature disappoints me
It is Gregor. But a man that transforms into a Cockroach? Sounds a lot like heresy to me.
insert limbus company joke
pick where my zealot is from
Cadia
Cadia (I forgot the other planets)
holy shit
Progena
progena not like any of this matters
ik it doesnt
Growing Up
Lowly Scribe
Isolated
Self-Reliance
Saw the Light
True Calling
Pilgrimage
Injured
True calling
hi hi fellow Shouties...
i wanna switch to this 499 MK2 axe from my current 482
but im curious with 482's Decapitator blessing...would it exceed 499's finesse above 100?
Thunderous on Ironhelm, good or bad?
Bad
Aiight, thanks
I take your ferret blast head on, and make you see how fresh my wheat is.

I'm not too sure, tho décapiter isn't really a sought out blessing for the Rashad
ohh well im currently low on $$ to buy blank axes with 380 stats so i make due with what i got from Sire shops
Ah
Imo you don't necessarily HAVE to get 380's for the perfect weapon, sometimes you'll get lucky at with a 360 with perfect stats and a good dump, and sometimes you'll get unlucky with a 380 that has damage as a dump (besides flamer) or finesse
hmmm true
noted on that thx but now i jst wish to know if i should reaplce any blessing for my 499 rashad
and if so, would Decapitator or All or Nothing from my 482 help to make it stronger?
I was using a 492 Bolter for a full year.
A month ago I landed a 550.
The difference between the two? Zero.
emperor bless
ouch
They both kill everything I kill with it in the same number of shots.
The hunt for god rolls is severely overstated.
I'd say, keep headtaker for that is a good blessing to use, shred is fine but all or nothing could help until you find brutal momentum (which is the most needed blessing for chaxe)
It only matters for if you're getting a blazing trauma or if you're trying to make a statement
ahh good idea
in that case, i will replace 499's 10% sprint perk with 25% dmg to unyielding
and swap sShred blessing with All or nothing (though i wish Decapitator does excedd above 100 Finesse)
Bad staff. 
Sorry sorry.... it uhhhh... is a bad staff
Yes spread the word. Get it buff!
emperor be gifting out here
thats definitely more powerful than mine now
axe gaming
never used the antax
more of a rashad kinda guy
The difference is certainly very huge depending on which weapon type you're comparing rolls to
Very funny
There are very, very few weapons where that's honestly true.
Like a THammer with a low or mid first target stat is going to be missing out on 12-25% damage on its charge attack and that's very notable.
unfortunate i dont have brutal momentum t4 but this is looking great,
Any advice for the perks
But people tend to hyper fixate on what the bar's percentage is instead of the actual range the bar represents, because for a lot of modifiers, that range is small or even meaningless.
prolly the melle crit hit dmg to smth else, flak?
You actually want Unarmored over Flak.
huh
aaah
ill play around with it see how it goes
im on a chainaxe wave rn lmao
Does anyone else's push-to-talk stop working at random? I thought it was my mic but I got a new one and it seems to work fine, so I think it might be a Fatshark thing. The mic icon stops appearing next to my portrait when I press my PtT key
not bad, could be better
With Unarmored you'll be able to 1 shot headshot which with BM means killing four in a single swing.
That's more significant than almost anything else.
I don't use the ingame Voip at all but I assume the game is resetting your default microphone to the wrong one.
Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out.
silly weazer
Tell that kitty to play a better game like.... Elden ring
elden ring
Weirdo
What the flipnarp
maliketh paws
Mankar I will summon a mittens at your doorstep
that's okay because @frank night and i are allies
Fine then
You've forced my hand
Thats a good gif
Tonight you will be visited by 3 ghosts
What the blud does that mean
especially cause she is the one that made the blaidd copypasta
The what
Very true the alliance is strong
Hello Varlets!
Weapon Reviews have returned!
After much thought about how I wanted to my review to change up since the introduction of Patch #13, I've finally settled on what I wanted them to be.
In this video, we'll be taking a look at the Revolvers - both the Zarona Mk IIa and the Agripinaa XIV Fan Fire! We'll be exploring their stats, thei...
I don't think I can send it here
CW: Degenerate Woman
google bao vtuber blaidd tweet
yessir
seeing it laid out like this, really makes you wonder what the point of the agri rev is
women are pretty cringe
women are hot
my life got 2x better when it clicked that women aren't mythical unicorns and in fact humans with the same capability of being degen shut ins just like everyone else
And revo is pretty overtuned which also doesn't help its case
"just like everyone else"
pretty sure thats only you
maybe some select others
capability
i know my request is unreasonable since it means model and animation work
but i wish it was 6 shots
and yeah seriously would it having the same cleave as a goshdamned throwing knife be so bad lmao
melee maelstrom time
Pog?
oh my game crashed
Lmao skill issue outplayed
i made the horrifying mistake of opening my inventories
owned
overheaded during the matchmaking period
Mines been crashing a lot too actually
i havent been playing of late
yeah my game is guaranteed to crash in the next asasfasgsahsaibhgdntfew minutes if I open the inventory a few times
ive been on the starship troopers extermination grind 💯💯
you ok?
be quiet you
thats what happens when you have missingno in your inventory
Someone tell me why the dragon's breath shot of the kant doesn't even deal the standard shell damage, it literally only applies burn. Such garbage
Stan on the keyboard
helldivers twooooo. soon
idk lol
warp fuckery
because that is how it functions
buuuuuuurn
it's really good lol
It is so dumb
it's an infinite cleave shot so i ain't complaining
it used to shoot through walls, good times
that and plasma gun
use the dragon breath shot while chastising
you will erase armored enemies
no you dont understand
Yeah infinite cleave and max stacks after 2 shots that also goes through bulwark shields is quite good
it didnt shoot through a wall
Underwhelming
How on earth is that underwhelming its insane
a hint to the fact that the world isn't real and that i should take more pills
ahh yes, deleting entire hordes, enemy groups, elite and special packs is very underwhelming
honestly havent used it since then lmao
consume all the drugs
because you dumb
stop
drugs are great im consuming them right now
That's my job
I gotta play with it more but the high standard whammy shells are the only thing saving it for now
stims
got a big ol syringe here loaded with so many drugs
obdolbos
@coarse birch are u playing
yes
i am joining
strike team 50
omw
Hello Varlets!
Today we have... probably one of the most polarizing builds in Darktide - the Knife-wielding Invis Zealot.
Played with little thought and selfishly, it is nothing but a nuisance to the team and can even make playing the mission a nightmare. This build also gets a bad rep for being closely associated with speedrunners rushing ah...
gross, gunner resist
Needs sprint efficiency
If it had maniac instead of unyielding... If only...
unyelding is fine
yea my build has all the gunner res as block eff. and the stamina is just more sprint eff.
Gunner resist is good, why do you hate my gunner resist?
also no extra stam curio, just 2H1T
idk gunner res to me is. look i dont wanna say the words.
Is not bad, but maniac is better imo
you have a knife you cdr options with momentum and blazing piety
Just go momentum with the cdr on crit from left side
oh boy 12% cdr is... -4 seconds
off your cdr at 30 seconds
woooo
so much value!
honestly all my builds are beginning to suffer from carcinisation at this point
3.6 seconds also
if you take the the talent that gives stealth 50% longer cd, it goes from 45 to 39.6 seconds
Can anyone show me a good momentum build so I can compare with mine?
stop going ability cdr even on a martyrdom no cdr build you get better value out of flat hp, toughness, and a resist
Thank you
whyyyy do people go sprint efficiency AHHH
HE TAKES SWIFT CERTAINITY
THAT like
REMOVES THE WHOLE POINT OF TAKING SPRINT EFF
Mine are similar but it's the Stunstorm route and utd route
Butt
Whatt
and yea all my curios are 3x sprint, 3x block, and 3x CD or Toughness
I see your dagger, and I raise my number one disappointment.
could be worse
nice
Is not faithful frenzy so popular now? I find it very useful
it is good
but its still competing with other options and not every weapon technically needs or wants the attack speed more than another option
Of the 5 axes what are the ones I should actually try to get brutal momentum for?
like id take anoint in blood over faithful frenzy
I use it on my momentum build with a rashad
just depends on build
attack speed is super duper strong through, its true
ive been tempted to make a post about that
but i have zero public confidence in my math skills
now that ive said the word math, arco will be here in about five minutes
This is what I'm planing to try
not sure if backstabber and blood redemption are worth on a Caxe focused build
lacks toughness regen
that looks fun
Try swapping the
fuckin whatsit
instead of 25% health damage regen take the one beside it
the toughness on ranged kill
you can just mow shit dow with your Brauto if things ever get spooky
based on the vid, he GOTTA GO FAST and welp i bet it's fun to run with formula-1 speed, i am myself now using a loner build as honest pervert too
without until death

But using a revolver I'm not sure...
revolver mk2 is universal top antielite that does not require chastice
you can count on it any time
oh i see an agrip brauto on my screen
konichiwa
ur late
we dragged him through a melee maelstrom
(this is mankar's scoreboard because i disconnected)
if i have a 50% bonus damage buff on 100 damage, i now do 150. If i then have 20% attack speed my dps is now 180, right
we can scoop up 50% AS pretty easily as Zealot, 60% if you wanna be sassy with The Emperor's Bullet
attack speed is a pretty insane force multiplier
anyway peity sucks and momentum is the best
blazing piety only exists so you can spam chastise every 4 seconds during a horde
thats kinda the vibe yeah
this baby can fit so much cdr in it
tbf Piety lets you spam Fury which is the Fury attack speed buff up constantly so it's not a complete loss
My take on attack speed is you either look at BPs per second or DPS based on what weapon you're using. Like a Caxe if you hit a BP you're getting 4 kills per swing regardless, in order to go beyond you have to stack attack speed.
ye
but im struggling still to see if there's any real edge cases where peity and its crit specifically is really getting you over a threshhold momentum/scourge cannot
and yea endlessly dashes is fun but you only need one every 10s
at some point youre mostly just yelling a lot. which might be the edge case im looking for.
Those extra charges come in clutch vs. ragers
throw knife at head
me: a chad without knives 
in all seriousness I don't usually use knives. Nor piety, but it has some nice uses
i mean its definitely fun
Well you'd need to take in a shitload of numbers to find that. Damage wise ADMs change w/ crits but only certain ones and it's also just a crit in general so there's the damage increase there
I definitely enjoy it more with weapons that play into the crit. You'd see a more noticeable difference there using something like claw
I wanted to do a deep dive on Achlys Caxe and I'm finding that 80% crit chance is like 60-70% damage against Flak Unyielding and Carapace 80% of the time.
For everything else it's just the crit increase
yea like knife has hilarious numbers but instead of extra crit id rather have duelist and desperado and the extra mobility
Duellist has a larger bonus when you crit weakspot than if you just weakspot or crit.
you can already leverage headshots as a crit, in a sense, kinda, if you squint
Really depends.
i said im squintin
Again the crit ADM stuff is super potent
I mean duelist isn't like an either or option though. You can use duelist and piety, unless I'm misunderstanding that statement
its more a question of peity/momentum, theyre the exclusives
Ah okay okay
In general I definitely use momentum as it's just a great all rounder, but piety has some specific, pretty potent build stuff I use it for
and way good
base to crit for lights on the Achlys Caxe (probs other lights on Caxes) takes the Carapace ADM from .25 to .55 which can be seen as a 2.2x damage multiplier.
crit damage multiplier
but not damage
the damage would be a much smaller buff right
On heavies it's a 41% damage increase on the H1 and a 33% on the H2 and H3
This is a direct mod to ADMs.
Zealot chat, i come to you in my hour of need.
What should i run on a chainsword for Psyker?
There's a bit of extra math for finesse multipliers but with that carapace example in mind the damage increases would be higher.
Not sure if it's diff for Psyker but we run Rampage + Wrath/Savage Sweep. Mk XIIIg prefers Wrath. For crits it'd be Wrath/Savage Sweep + Shred.
I think the only difference for Psyker is less straight up damage nodes and higher base crit chance
I think base crit for Psyker is like 5%
Zealot has 5% too.
wasnt it 7.5 or some goofy shit
I think Vet has like 10 rn, I can check.
Achlys almost feels like it'd be a prime candidate for decapitator
Veteran and Zealot are 5%, Ogryn is 2.5%, and Psyker is 7.5%.
Psyker stays winning graaah
Maybe on paper but in practice it's annoying as shit
lmao
hence the almost lol
thats achlys in general
i feel like im running with my shoes untied when i use it
ow my face
i have tripped
i like my deci ht antax
theres something theraputic to it
just lopping heads one at a time
hey Vin have you seen the creation of Steve
it was beautiful
I do not believe i have
this might be the best thing created
Gonna need mod to make my zealot taller, not enough headshots with knife
If zealot chat gets a guide I vote that as the cover
youre all very welcome for coming up with that and putting zero effort into making it
shout out to @bitter anvil
The gospel of Steve
Steve was there when the dark magics were written
looks like he was chilling in a hot tub and got snapped
he owns 2B in stocks and is living the high life
As he deserves
i see nosho has gone full ogryn
you bitch
max performance ogryn
take toughness or i'll take the kids
suffer
have them they suck
he's about 3 seconds from dropping a slur with that hp value
lmao
@coarse birch thoughts?
My coping-ass saw the tweet and made me think that Laspistol or Knife had a special SA when equipping both
Reddit blade
i think you should step on legos
goofy ass bug
Place a spider in the same room as josho
i hate extra poxbursters 
i blew up @coarse birch on accident and lost us the game because i threw a nuke to clear someone who was ledged
and 8 paid actor poxbursters assaulted him
Bro i went to push a burster and just fucking died

fucking shotgunner knockback rumbled me
I mean...
Dodge slide lmao
wow u got arco'd
i don't appreciate it having my namesake
missile https://streamable.com/v22326
Holy shit thats great
it's a nice arc isn't it
i thought the dog had aimed too high but it knew better
both of u tried everything u could to stop it
so thats what that pov looks like
you better fix your tone

now post the one where i slide under the dog
do you have a vague idea of when that happened because i forgor
Same game
Ye
josho is right this time unfortunately
wtf
didn't look too impressive https://streamable.com/uswdv1
tsk tsk tsk
is the Ironhelm good now or something? Seems to be the flavor of the month on youtube
it's p decent
it actually kills stuff with the activated attack now
it plays like a halfway point between a powersword and the crucis
josho kills a man and his family
how's it compare to crusher?
better single target but not quite as good crowd control
debatably worse at handling large masses of bulwarks
you playing rn?
what works for me is making as many loud and irritating noises as possible
beat my brain into submission
Josho when he fixed the soundboard
I'm a somewhat new zealot player trying to find a good crowd control melee weapon that is somewhat fast
crusher gets my vote for crowd control
crusher is really good for cc and if you run fury of the faithful + momentum/martyrdom it'll swing fast
I think we can describe it of how much do you want to use your brain
doesn't have the best dodges or move speed but itll do
Because the heavy sword does also exist
I was using the heavy eviscerator but it felt off I've respect my zealot like 5 times trying to find something that feels right at lvl 21
It may be less on CC but it'll get every problem solved
New or old
(thick or thin)
It was the longer one I think I didn't play much zealot till recently
I can load up on the game in just a bit to figure it out
Alrighty
lately been defaulting to either crusher or mk4 chaxe
both are solid, serve different roles
I was using one of the power hammers not the irronfell the other one and wanted to try something new
Knife was ADHD zipping around but now that ive "mastered" dodge slides, the mobility is yet on another level ✈️
I will deep fry you

How to uninstall fr*nce
That would not be very French of you
How to remove fr*nce
You're supposed to surrender at the first sign of resistance
I heard French take on the properties of their baguettes and physically cannot swim
Lest they become soggy and break apart
good morning the best class in the game
as a french canadian I approuve this, we had to invent beaver tails to stay afloat
As someone that had to service french Canadians for work,for years. I recommend moving out of QC before I cut a circle around that city and watch it sink
The plans to do so have been set in motion
i mean they did fight the english for over a century that one time
thats quebec

ur gonna get ulcers
Finally after 79 hours I finally slept
baguette and frog legs
ideal sleep schedule
@vocal pulsar lets duo a sedition
impossible
What a single ARG video does to a man
I like my Combat Knife 3 build, but thing im lacking is answer to Crushers and such, just had pack of like 6 of those + 10 ragers and couple hordes, and it was wipe as couldnt deal with the Crushers
nay i won't be playing this session
bolbgun
expire
wtf
Yeah been thinking of it, now running Agripa Brauto
Stab crusher in head
Its bit hard when there are 6 of em in total chaos full of ragers and horde too
ye
No
bolber blast
Sandwich
yea a frog leg sandwich
I can hop on @royal vortex
woohoo
Id have this, what to change?
Sedition gaming
say that to a message that doesn't have my name
preferably mankar's instead
we r in strike team 50
sedition gaming
I will steal every sink in your house
you're a bitch
You're peak sedition gaming arco
hnnnng
I've seen you play Psyker 
nuh uh
ive never seen arco play psyker
Hnnnng is my line I'll have you know
he has been corrupted by mk6 psword with brutal momentum
Oh dear lord
surgical to shattering and infested to carapace
Arco is a meta slave?
Ok will do
OwO
i was there when arco played psyker
Dude you're some trolling away from being Darcy
with FotF and Anoint in Blood a Crusher is three shots in the head to kill
flamer bad
His Psyker clips were funny
I liked the one where he was stuck and just sat in fire for a bit
oh the one where a key got stuck and i was thus assassinated?
mhm
terrible terrible
i liked the one where a mutie threw him into the abyss
and the one where he got bonked
great clips
why are you discussing the ones where i die
Gonna go take it out and see how it does this build does with Crushers now
its the only ones ive seen
SI T2 
8 shots to hit max stacks
Yeah unfortunately
Truly incredible
dunno honestly if it'll affect BPs
I remember when SI's description was entirely wrong.
"+rending%"
It makes killing Crushers more annoying.
the god damn plus sign
and then i get extremely baited by vet's new "rending" talents
remember when the weapon bars were literally just a bar
yum
coloured with zero attribution
Having T4 SI cuts the number of shots needed in half to kill a Crusher on Zealot.
time to bring out the calipers
dudes check it out i got this caxe from Big E and all its damage bars are 240 pixels long
was goofin in the meatgrinder, but am down to play
Back when we didn't even know it capped at 80%
it didnt say SHIT lmao
Fire Grenade would be another solution but would have to drop lots of talents for that
Back when bleed was actually good
bleed was dumb
How do you fuck up a DoT that bad
but also bleeding through bulwark shields
They did 0 QA on it
and self-triggering
mhm
and proccing on teammates
and proccing haymaker
and proccing haymaker on teammates
truly a time of our lives
actual deranged era
you start seeing blue markers on your screen after a barrel explosion and start counting the seconds you have left
lmao
15 round clip on Boltgun, im probably lucky to get 2 crushers removed with it...
Is that by default or with an ult? Fury of the Faithful gives a huge damage increase.
the paradox of the bolter is that it goes 0-3,000 in a millisecond once it fires but the enitre weapon wants restraint.
Thats without ult
so with practice you'll get it up to three or four
oh you want the ult
like real bad
especially with only t2 SI
Yeah i can see the difference now, trying it out
@royal vortex looks like I missed the short bus again 
should've brought your step ladder
It's kinda fun because what most weapons do with an ult against Crushers the Boltgun does by default.
Gets tricky having to switch to Bolt, then throw knife and then press ult within like 0.1s to get crusher deleting
Oh well, thanks for help, this does solve the Crusher issue, but now i probably got new issue with specials 😄
dats wot da throw knife is for
400iq apply shattering impact and then throw knife
apply shattering impacts with knife
Just wasted almost all my plaststeel trying to get that IV Shattering, no luck
unfortunate
Restore toughness by throwing knives.
Voice of Terra Manstopper Throwing Knife meta
Boltgun kills most things in a few shots so having the damage bonuses sooner can be influential. Generally though it's just for Crushers and Maulers.
Splerguhm
Installing Height Changer mod so i can make my Zealot max tall instead of shorty, so ill hit heads more often
I thought the blacks were the eyes
I was trying to wonder what kind of frog it was
The frog is moldy
hype
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
which type of zealot build is the strongest in the current meta?
i have a crit build set up with an eviscerator mk15 and a revolver and it is kicking ass. (its not min-maxed)
i read about stealth builds and wound builds aside from crit.
how do wound/martyr builds work? is it that you have more dmg the lower your hp is (and the more wound bars you have)?
It's kinda hard to pin an entire build to being the meta but we just have really strong specific parts of Zealot. Hsword, Caxe, Revolver, Columnus IAG, and Brautos are our most braindead point and kill weapons we have rn.
how would a build like that look like? beyond just getting momentum
would depend on what blitz you plan on using
theres nothing more badass then a priest with a shotgun
And the paths to them are also good
My Zealot is now tallboy
you wanna have some fun use the new dagger with the Haymaker blessing, it feels like those japanese movies where a dude runs by and slashes through 3 guys
columnus iag VS some brauto? i read that agripina has the best brauto
i wanna get a decent autogun, not sure which to go with
Agri will be the best general purpose, Graia has the best burst DPS due to the braced fire.
Compared to a Columnus IAG it's just if you hit heads or not honestly
i'd say the columnus IAG wins out if you're aiming (and is comparable if not aiming) but I like the brautos for sheer brain off
Agri IAG is also pretty solid but it's higher per shot and slower, Columnus IAG is like a burst SMG vibe.
Agri is Space AK-47, Columnus is M4 on steroids
just picked up a graia, hopefully it really is good
since they made the changes Columnus 5 handles beautifully.
If id get to choose perfect one out of those all right now, id go ColumnusV
can someone share an example of what a momentum build would look like?
With the Columnus5 i'm wondering if anybodys been using Stripped Down and if it's been noticible.
I've seen speedrunners use it. One sec.
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exactly what i got then
(not my own, stole it from the forums)
this guys who made this build is claiming his stealth build to be the most broken build in the entire game, im eager to test one out in the future
I wouldn't take the backstab over the run speed
So yeah, if you rock a max stam build you'd probably notice it a lot more. But I don't think it's a particularly meta choice.
That build sure gets reaction here, ive linked it before and people ripped it apart 😄
Probably more potent on Vet too, I think, since they can get an infinite stamina build going pretty easily with some of their blue talents.
lmao, the author really hyped it up though lol
get me all excited even though i dont like the stealth playstyle in this sort of game
Not particularly. It's fun for finesse weapons and ig boss 1 shots but having the Armor Downgrade on Fury or what Chorus offers doesn't really make it the deciding factor of the "most broken build".
Yeah a lot of builds from stuff like gameslantern or most YTers will get ripped apart here. Many are based on a lack of info or just stubbornness.
Especially on Zealot of all things, which has builds that are entirely hinged on a mix of preference and weapon choice.
I used the same build to kill hard mode twins
he was going on about having F as the ultimate panic button and being able to deal crazy single target damage and shit and be unkillable and all that crap
i read the whole essay he wrote up
armor downgrade moment
real goofy with some weapons
Check out my ultra meta combat meta blade meta mk 3 meta stealth meta build meta
what is armor downgrade?
and why does the game look like its tf2?
im pretty sure the only reason this isnt the title he gave is because there is a character limit
armor downgrade is an intended but undocumented feature of chastise the wicked/fury of the faithful
Game looks shit for frames, I have a custom UI I made.
Armor downgrade is Fury of the Faithful-only. It applies to the next melee hit, or for 3 seconds of ranged damage. There's a lot of math behind it but essentially it sets the armor damage modifier (ADM) for Carapace to Flak, and Flak to Unarmored.
oh
that sounds nasty
does this interact as disappointingly with chain weapons as i fear it does?
If you have a weapon like Flamer that does a lot of damage to Flak and Unarmored, all of a sudden you can make anything that is Carapace or Flak (haha most elites) mega killable.
So there's a whole thing w/ chain weapons regarding ults
what about bosses? what do those guys count as?
unyielding
But with them, it's fine except for Chaxe which has a higher Flak ADM than Unarmored.
or flak
how do you guys feel about the crusher? i read that it used to be shit but not anymore
It's good
We have a whole guide about Crusher in pins
Very solid.
Engaging weapon too, unlike Caxe or Hsword.
I disagree
gr8 weapon
oh
I'm sorry but we're gonna have to excommunicate you eru
rip
are crit builds good with non chain weapons? with something like a caxe? im thinking anything other than a speedy weapon would be too slow for it to be optimal
ey ey fellow zealot
Generally you want a high cleave weapon that has shred or a finesse weapon. Mk II Evis and Chainsword are both very good for it. Mk XV Evis can do it too but idk not really the weapon for it.
Depends on a weapon ad the reason to use crit. Crit builds are good on heavy sword because it hits seven billion targets per swing.
whats wrong with mk15?
So it provides a lot of cooldown reduction despite not being a crit weapon
Nothing wrong, it's actually very good. But...
It can only damage up to 4 targets per swing
IIRC it can hit more if revved
But it doesn't really matter because it just chews through anything
There's a bit to it. Generally when you run crits on a high cleave weapon your intention is to spam ults, primarily Fury or Shroudfield. On the Mk II, you can spam H1, high cleave and has a good cleave profile. The Mk XV though is target capped on lights, so Scourge is bleeding max 4 enemies per swing and ulting is only getting 4 per swing max.
There's also a case of blessings, XV really likes Rampage for damage. Rampage + Shred would be the goto, while the Mk II can run Savage/Wrath/Perfect Strike + Shred and result in higher cleave and better crowd damage.
It's not bad by any means, but you can get the Mk II to do it better by a fair margin.
They both want rampage
i see
I think the only specific case you'd actually rather have a Mk XV is if you want to spam Chorus, having smth like Cleave + Shred will get you an ult per swing.
For damage yeah but with crit built in mind Mk II Evis and Chainswords want Cleave + Shred
oh right
i read that chain axes suck, i didnt get that impression but i was playing on lower diffs, is this really the case?
should I swap rampage to shred here?
chain axes dont suck at all
they used to
but not anymore
they can be very good
If you want ig, you could run either Shred or Rampage and that'd be a good Chainsword.
well, I have t4 shred but not t4 rampage 
agri brauto + antax axe is crazy fun on matrydom zealot
You have the freedom to switch it back if you don't like it so gamble and see how you like it 
They handle Flak and Carapace like they're playdough. Really easy to hit a 1 shot on all elites with both of them.
now im really not sure about my knowledge regarding which melees are good:
- best thammer?
- best csword?
- best caxe?
bonus: does the horizontal swing chaxe also have this bullshit cleave limit or smth that magically makes it worse than the other vertical chaxe?
- crusis
- either
- rashad (antax close second)
which is better though? cause im really not sure anymore knowing that these hidden crippling limits are a thing
- For single target - mk2, for better utility mk4
- Between MK IV and MK 13 - 13 is better
- MK 4 Chaxe is more fun and stronger on bosses with super high aspd build.
The cleave profiles on the sweeps for both Chaxe's are capped at 4. Though if it means anything the Mk IV which is better at horde clear than the XII is on par with the Mk XV Evis' horde clear.
Mk IV Chainsword has better crowd damage.
i read that rashad is better only with a good roll, but antax is less roll critical. would you say that this is the case?
They run the same perks and blessings
one has finesse, other has cleave
ya i agree
Rashad attacks faster in general and the Antax has a better push attack.
cause the rashad has finesse, but if it gets a shit finesse stat, it is worse - afaik atleast
uhh I mean I guess? If one of the Caxe's have a lower damage stat roll then the other one would be better too.
The Antax is easier to roll a bit since Cleave Targets is minor due to BM, but the Rashad will be better in general.
alright, thanks
im near ordo cap again
what weapon should i waste my time attempting to craft perfection on
Don't say that so loudly, reddit will start maining the antax push attack again if they already haven't...

Taxe.
Mk II is fun.
tactical axes bitch
Don't tell them the Knife PA has good damage it'll start a second wave of pain
tell them about the knife's innate backstab bonus and lead them to the ways of the shroudfield
stealth backstab knife zealot op
Check out my meta combat meta blade meta vi meta backstab meta lacerate meta meta
Anyone have issues with error code 2014? getting hit with it every game so far tonight
Never really have issues like this, dunno if its server overload or something on my end
I've seen that once 
I've seen heavy antax push attack copers several times on this server x.x
I used to think it was okay, when I didn't know shit
T_T
thammer crafting is a nightmare
So many useless blessings...
wanting a warp fire trauma will also make you want to die
thankfully big e gave me this like three months into the game iirc
now get an Ironhelm
i've run more than hundred auric matches with both, mk13 outdamaged mk4 in all aspects, basically an upgrade
mk4 now collecting dust
you want 2 blessings only, very important breakpoints for stats, and you need good perks
which chainsword is best in your opinion?
im thinking mk13 cause it has more horizontals in its light combo and verticals for heavies which is nice for single target
Brunt and Hadron are such an iconic duo
Mk IV for crowds, Mk XIIIg for better light spam and single target.
the demon in pain and of hatred?
Like Smough and Ornstein
Literally yeah ^
Bringing the pain
or captain and tennille
That could vary from so many build choices and even how you use the weapon. That's not a grounded statistic.
Or trapper and flamer
which is better vs its competition for its role?
so is the mk13 a better single target killing machine than the mk4 is a crowd deleter?
yo did y'all see that post on the reddit where the poster got a notification that this chat was talking about femboys and war? 
i dont need a notification to know that
true
shovel pics, in my zealot chat?
i was showing him the horrors of crafting
@royal vortex
I'm not super sure which could be pinned to 'the best'. Probs the Mk XIIIg since it still has incredible crowd damage. But it's just preference as to what you want more in your build. If you want harder hitting base attacks and revs the Mk XIIIg has it, if you want peak crowd damage the Mk IV is there for it.
me omw for femboys https://streamable.com/8xnq29
lmfao
I get my cat so many toys from pet stores, and they're ambivalent.
Drop a q-tip on the ground? Best damn toy in the world, will play for hours.
I raised a trash cat :c
Cream of mushroom
Assassination missions tend to work the best, take a good deal of damage and be very speedy
but did you do it in a private game?
you cant do it in a normal pub anymore sadly
@hushed knoll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRSPz2KbvZI
Highlight taken from this livestream: https://youtu.be/9OoGe-PyuPI
i did just that
but it didnt give it to me
oh
OH
FOR FUCK SAKE
thats cringe
its one of the OG "toxic penaces" like the kill boss with only using brainburst
there was a lot of controversy about trolling games to get those penances so they moved it to private only
if you ask here for LFG im sure some people would be down to help out, its not really a difficult penance imo
what is the optimal curio setup? i mean the base stat, but im also not 100% on the custom stats either
can this penance be done in orthus? not sure if it has enough barrels or easily available enemies to get your health down fast enough
I am not sure about the latter
Snake legs
Which one is orthus? The mission I completed it on was the prison assassination mission
On the jump down from the sewers just get dinked by the elites that usually spawn there then move pretty quickly throughout the level
20 minutes isn't really too bad, just make sure to not to equip extra wounds and whatnot
The Orthus Offensive, the one where you fight the Karnak Twins
I actually dont know but that one would seem the best for it
gwyndolin is a guy
he was raised as a woman though
i forgor why but that’s the gist of it
Josho's natural position
truly
\
a darktide
the feminine boy is horizontal
I think this game is making me bookoo cookoo crazy. I keep switching out parts of my build to less and less meta things and somehow it keeps working. Zealot's a bonkers class.
FemMEN "enjoyers" when they find a bodybuilder in a tutu and realize the mistake
Just like that Ratchet and Clank easter egg?
mistake?
i only see upside
@royal vortex
just played with the worst pub vet of my life did this twice and then did least damage
should i consider buying either of these for thrust4 or wrath4 respectively?
this is why i dont do pubs anymore
some dude named josho
wanna queue
73% pen too low?
I'd be ashamed
worth rolling to orange?
is it better to use the knives or the molotovs?
Wherever that vet is I hope he gitted gudder by now
let's see if he is here
idk if im doing something wrong but knives just dont seem to do enough damage
@royal vortex
YOOO
he's in this discord
yo @royal vortex you suck at game lol lmao
im going to castrate you
with ur aim?

what build were u running
the "disconnected for 3/4ths of the match" build
bro wasnt running
dum bith
he was walking
i was struggling
nah, wait he was crawling
didn't ask you + L + ratio
face your sound waves away from me
can we ban this guy
200k damage is more than i expected
thank the bot
eh im just going to come back with my question later
he knows no thanks
they arent the best
so i should just run molotovs then?
combat knives or throwing knives?
cause one of those is good
oh, i thought you were talking about knife melee weapon
throwing knives
the other is for speed runners
throwing knives are pretty neat
i just play zealot with eviscerator
yeah i dont like this
time to throw the emperor's holy flaming jarate at the heretics instead
Gotta hit the head. Also, they inherit the ranged damage boosts of your guns, so if you get a blessing that boosts that it'll help. I think anoint in blood might also work.
But they're really useful in the situations where you need a gap closer and your gun's empty.
Such as taking out gunners
aight imma do that
You know what fuck yall
unbullpups ur accatran
i would
Why is there a crab
thats just a regular fucking lasgun now
Exactly
You know what screw it, I decombatted the blade and debladed the combat
Un-recons your recon lasgun
