zealot-class

[fading vale]

pretty much all zealot options are good, the strongest and easiest is probably marty + caxe/hsword

[coarse birch]

revo is the least fine

i outdamaged you with revo

this is a sign

revo is not fine

[royal vortex]

what build was i playing

[coarse birch]

i forget and i cant check with scoreboard

[royal vortex]

L

[coarse birch]

it was not the bleed build

[royal vortex]

because u know u cant handle the bleed build

the VET META

[coarse birch]

i cant

i admit it

[fading vale]

running revolver and kill stealing josho is one of life's finest pastimes

[royal vortex]

binch

[coarse birch]

you should play with us sometime laz

if you are still playing dt

[fading vale]

I haven't played in a minute

[north sedge]

yea, john nosho

[royal vortex]

there was this one random guy who was in fkin awe of my columnus brauto earlier

felt weird

[spare talon]

wow thanks brunt i guess

[fading vale]

I could probably do a couple games here and there but idk if I'm feeling it, I just haven't been gaming much and rn playing valheim for the first time lol

[coarse birch]

yeah i think he got a little turned on by it

[royal vortex]

mankar almost LIED and MISLED him into thinking psykers could get brautos

[fading vale]

psyker with a brauto would be something

[royal vortex]

if only

[coarse birch]

dude

please

[fading vale]

when is fatshark gonna release some damn news though

[royal vortex]

my bet is some time february

[coarse birch]

heres the scoreboard i feel like i almost remember your build

but its not coming to me

[royal vortex]

in 30 days from now when u screenshot this to tell me how wrong i am

is that the fucking game where exe stanced turned off on me

and i couldnt use it

[coarse birch]

nah i think it was earlier than that

oh wait

[royal vortex]

or was it the one before that

[fading vale]

how's your new base going josho

[coarse birch]

stan is there

[royal vortex]

laz dont tell anyone

i almost made it back

and then the raft broke

[coarse birch]

was it on enclavum

[royal vortex]

and i just logged off

[fading vale]

lmao

[royal vortex]

i think it was enclavum

[coarse birch]

then yeah it was that one

[fading vale]

yeah rafts are bad afaik

[royal vortex]

it was a modded one

[coarse birch]

which explains it lol

[royal vortex]

a Big Raft™️

[royal vortex]

stan still doesn't get the lasgun thing

😔

[coarse birch]

i wish i was surprised

[fading vale]

I can boat you to your corpse if you want, at some point

[royal vortex]

ndhwar said he was gonna rename his shotgun to the mg1a lmfao

[ripe quest]

What's the in on that one? Was it just a different name?

[royal vortex]

o im still alive i think

[coarse birch]

im pretty sure stan could have been there when you name dit and not gotten it

[fading vale]

oh

[royal vortex]

he thought my lasgun was called the mg42

[ripe quest]

what the

[coarse birch]

dude was baffled when we told him it was the 1a

"thats a shotgun"

[fading vale]

so you know stan is real from voice?

[coarse birch]

yeah ive played with him a few times

he does in fact exist

[royal vortex]

i had been fkin talking about the mg1a too

and like discussing the breakpoints n shit

and he's just like

[fading vale]

he is no different from when he types lol

[ripe quest]

Was in a call w/ him a couple days ago

[royal vortex]

I THOUGHT YOU WERE RUNNING A SHOTGUN

[ripe quest]

He's so funny

[coarse birch]

also do you think stan knows that number is 42

[glacial stratus]

@royal vortex What can we do here

[ripe quest]

A little goober in my computer

[fading vale]

yeah he certainly brings a lot of laughter

[royal vortex]

swap unarmored to maniac would be my bet

[fading vale]

has nearly killed josho many times

[royal vortex]

stan has tried to fkin assassinate me

stan and dough

are the worst

[glacial stratus]

you are wise

[fading vale]

stan falls for EVERYTHING dough says

[coarse birch]

he also thinks everyone sounds the smae

[fading vale]

yes

[ripe quest]

Yeah apparently I sound like dough iirc

[coarse birch]

so maybe i could just get him to believe some random shit

[royal vortex]

he said both of u sounded the same

and that u both sound like dough

[fading vale]

everyone sounds like dough

[royal vortex]

and i also apparently sound like dough

[north sedge]

lol

[royal vortex]

so u know

[coarse birch]

why the fuck am i running cara on my chaxe

[royal vortex]

eet eez what eet eez

[north sedge]

real spartacus moment coming some day

[ripe quest]

Which Chaxe

[coarse birch]

xii

[ripe quest]

Mk IV?

Oh nuke it

[coarse birch]

with thrust 4

[fading vale]

fucking iceslow talked last night and stan was like, WAS THAT DOUGH

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/51tksn

[royal vortex]

HOW

[coarse birch]

do i go unyield or maniac

[royal vortex]

THEY SOUND NOTHING ALIKE

[north sedge]

it's my thick finnish accent

[royal vortex]

joshdough is a classic

[coarse birch]

well ive never heard dough

[glacial stratus]

@royal vortex is Mk 4 chaxe any good?

[coarse birch]

but i can tell everyone ive talked to apart

[royal vortex]

both chainaxes are good

[ripe quest]

On the Mk XII I prefer maniac a bit more since the slower base heavies but Unyielding is fun for bosses.

[north sedge]

i am speaking in the joshdough clip

[ripe quest]

The lights ruin small elites, can stunlock ragers by default. Good horde clear and with Thrust and some buffs up you can one-shot all elites.

very fun

[north sedge]

the one that says "wow dough"

[fading vale]

see above clip

[ripe quest]

Has some minor issues though but you can get by them.

[glacial stratus]

so old chaxe is better?

[coarse birch]

oh

well easy to tell now cause i know how josho sounds

[ripe quest]

The new one will be better for single target. Hits harder in general.

[fading vale]

and stan immediately swapped them after saying he wouldn't be tricked

[ripe quest]

The lights and PA are really solid for single target too

[vivid hawk]

evening zealot chat, hope everyone has had an eventful day of yelling and praising the Omnissiah

[royal vortex]

shalom

[coarse birch]

there we go

[north sedge]

the PA on the new chaxe is weirdly strong

[glacial stratus]

would this work or do I need thrust?

[coarse birch]

new chaxe PA destroys shit yeah

[vivid hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/forgedinfire-itwillkill-blacksmith-gif-18536436

[fading vale]

well you see if you want the biggest single target damage you should roll crit damage instead

[ripe quest]

That's fine yeah. Headtaker/Slaught/Thrust work in any combo on both Chaxes.

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/y77ys8

[coarse birch]

i have not heard stan talk about fake orgasms however i have now heard the groaning post drink

[ripe quest]

Yeah I've heard a good bit about the moans

[fading vale]

he moans when he eats/drinks literally anything

[placid fiber]

@royal vortex What would you say if I named my 4th and, soon to be final, Zealot after this username you have "John Nosho" >_>'

[fading vale]

especially the AHABPSW

[coarse birch]

the AHABPSW is legendary

[royal vortex]

name it in honor of stan instead

[placid fiber]

so name it "AHABPSW"?

[fading vale]

yes

[lethal totem]

that feels like a SE Asian meme

[royal vortex]

yes

[fading vale]

then we will gaslight stan with screenshots of your character in game

make him think somebody coincidentally named themselves that

[sharp zodiac]

Relying on the next 12 hours on nothing but 2 poptarts and popcorn

Less go

[placid fiber]

What do you think?

[fading vale]

what kinda poptarts

[fading vale]

amazing

[sharp zodiac]

Cinnamon

[placid fiber]

Looks like it could be a "Stan"? <_<

[fading vale]

cinnamon poptarts go hard

[quasi marsh]

wha'ts the blessings for lawbringer on zealot

manstopper/scatter?

[fading vale]

scattershot no respite

is my preference

[quasi marsh]

no manstopper?

[fading vale]

I tried manstopper, I got more horde kills but fewer kills of everything else so eh

[placid fiber]

I finally had a reason to take the aggitator zealot voice, for the male zealot xD

[fading vale]

lol

[copper hawk]

lol

[fading vale]

no respite just makes elite/special kills so consistent

[placid fiber]

I don't know, guys... he looks a lil crazy...

[quasi marsh]

ill give it a try

[coarse birch]

Oh i need to make a manstopper shotgun

Wait no

Im saving plasteel

I must resist

[fading vale]

I mean stan is a bit crazy so it's fine

do you have manstopper already?

[quasi marsh]

me or them?

[fading vale]

yoshi

[quasi marsh]

cause i just saw this in melk shop is why im asking lul

https://i.gyazo.com/c5eb07724ea3712d3968090da9a0663c.jpg

[coarse birch]

I might from just random shotguns ive sacrificed

[quasi marsh]

im gonna try sticking norespite instead tho

[fading vale]

good news is you are free to try both

[quasi marsh]

ya

not even gonna waste plasteel to test, thank god for loadout mod

[fading vale]

if you don't, you need to roll it on a low level character lol

[fading vale]

do you know how no respite works

[placid salmon]

full bore on agri ❤️

[ripe quest]

Ordo store gave both of them to me for free it was nuts.

Like, back-to-back within the day

[quasi marsh]

its a self buff no?

[fading vale]

nope so

it multiplies 20% damage by the current stagger count of the enemy (up to 7)

[coarse birch]

Uh oh

We will see if i am lucky

[terse seal]

best autogun?

[fading vale]

so your second shot on average is going to do around 50% more damage assuming they aren't staggered by something else already

[coarse birch]

Columnus is probably the best autogun atm

[fading vale]

any source of stagger gives and enemy more stagger count

best infantry is columnus, best brauto is still agri

[ripe quest]

If you want burst damage the Graia Brauto is better.

[fading vale]

and vraks 3 for headhunters

[placid fiber]

Oh boy. >.>

[fading vale]

I feel like you don't need any more burst than an agri given how good it is at literally everything even long distance

[quasi marsh]

wait

[fading vale]

granted I have a perfect agri

[quasi marsh]

so are you saying it can be up to +140%?

[fading vale]

yes

[quasi marsh]

that's weird

[fading vale]

so say you have stuns

[quasi marsh]

im definitely not noticing that much of a dmg increase

[fading vale]

stuns give enemy stagger count

[quasi marsh]

unless i need to stagger harder to get a knockdown

[frank night]

a university lecture was given

[fading vale]

you don't, but maybe you should install the mod for displaying stagger count for testing

[hollow token]

can someone summarise what the zealot class does for me pleas

[fading vale]

dive everything, survive, and use all your tools

and get good at game mechanics

[coarse birch]

^

[ripe quest]

Applying that many stacks usually requires a high stagger high cleave weapon or a stun.

[fading vale]

it's usually 2 or 3 stacks

[royal vortex]

melk you SPONGE

melk you SPONGE

[ripe quest]

Stuns are annoying though since they'll sometimes drop stacks randomly

[fading vale]

which is why I said roughly 50% damage on second shot

[coarse birch]

Diving stuff is also very good for shutting down shooter packs

[fading vale]

stagger is just fucky

the count resets all the time on some enemies

[coarse birch]

Dont you already have a blazing trauma

[royal vortex]

more is more

[quasi marsh]

should the stun grenade

inflict maximum stagger

for this test

[fading vale]

sometimes after they are in it long enough but like exhil mentioned the stagger count can reset

[spare talon]

someone in voice chat at the end of the mission actually calling me out and saying that i was slaying the fuck out with the heavy sword
then they are blown away when i say it was actually a dclaw and not a heavy sword

[ripe quest]

Aggressive class with options to support it. Also 2 very potent cooldown reduction options available. Class specific weapons are the Flamer, Thammer, Eviscerator, Heavy Sword, and Crusher. All of which are viable options.

[quasi marsh]

oh ok

i got it to work

went up to 660 dmg

[ripe quest]

You have so much that supports just holding w at enemies the whole time.

[quasi marsh]

very inc onsistent though

[spare talon]

kill enemies and dont get killed
that is both their role and gameplay advice

[quasi marsh]

so ig that's what you mean by

stagger can reset lol

[fading vale]

it helps a lot for distant specials

[quasi marsh]

to test

[fading vale]

and also keep in mind that it's any source of stagger, so if a teammate staggers something it still works

[quasi marsh]

im chucking a holy grenade into a group of specials

and then shooting a lone special to check the dmg

that is away from the group

[hushed knoll]

Poptarts are ass

[quasi marsh]

to easily read the number

that should proc it right?

[fading vale]

no, it's based on the enemies current stagger count

[fading vale]

you are ass

like, per enemy, it's not a self buff

[quasi marsh]

oh

ok i get what you mean now

so its a debuff on the enemy more like

[fading vale]

more or less

[vivid hawk]

@royal vortex you playing rn?

[quasi marsh]

ok i see the really big increase now

so im guessing def pair this with holy nade lol

how do you follow up a shot to hit them while they're staggered with two special shots though

the reload is too slow to capitalize on the stagger from the 1st for me

[royal vortex]

done for the night. just logged on to check melk

[fading vale]

I think of no respite as basically being a max shot cap and better sometimes if something is already staggered

[spare talon]

jokes aside, zealot is essentially a mini ogryn, not in terms of what they do literally, but what their role is
they are in the right place at the right time with the right tools to do the right thing, you are what keeps the game from going downhill, and even if it does, you are best suited to fix the most fucked situations (this is also why bad zealots are really noticable, whereas good zealots arent unless theyre the last alive)
despite being "the melee class", zealots can do some of the most unreal stuff with ranged weapons, while still having the melee talents and prowess to be the frontline at the same time, so dont shrug off your ranged options on zealot

[fading vale]

scattershot really helps the special regardless, you are just gonna shoot into horde 2 or 3 times and it dies

[swift surge]

crit evis a thing? or go for the usual flak/maniac rampage/something

[hushed knoll]

I'm more than just an ass

[vivid hawk]

k

[fading vale]

[quasi marsh]

ya i get that, but i mean like

[placid fiber]

Wow... you can die on sedition lol

Meaning my teammates xD

[quasi marsh]

what i mean is, dont i usually NOT bednefit from no respite in a vacuum

[hushed knoll]

[quasi marsh]

when spamming the speccial shot

like ignoring any stagger from nadesa or teammates

cause im reloading too slow to hit them again before they are unstaggered

[fading vale]

I'm not that sure on no respite special, didn't test it but, the point is more to make the best all around shotgun that does anything well

[quasi marsh]

oh

is no respite for the normal shot then

[fading vale]

yeah

[quasi marsh]

i thought u meant stagger a big swarm with special an then follow up with another special to delete

[spare talon]

yeah shotguns really stagger the hell out of anything

[quasi marsh]

ah ok

[spare talon]

on their normal fire

[fading vale]

it's a bit help with 2 shotting specials from far away

big

[spare talon]

so kant regular fire is "the burn stacks are not enough, i want this guy DEAD"

[hollow token]

sounds like a fun character

might swap to zealot rather than psyker

[quasi marsh]

also im guessing

flechette/scattershot is a meme

[fading vale]

yep

it's not the worst meme ever but

it's a meme

[royal vortex]

flechette/scattershot on vet

the BLEED BUILD

[ripe quest]

imo Flechette is a meme in general but on Zealot it's not fun to build. Can do it on Vet though.

[fading vale]

wyd josiah

[royal vortex]

about to go to sleep

[fading vale]

wow that's impressive

[royal vortex]

i know

[ripe quest]

eepy

[fading vale]

I'll send some Steve's your way

[royal vortex]

thank u laz

i appreciate it

[hushed knoll]

OH MY GODDDDD

STEEEEEVE

[fading vale]

Hey stan do you wanna go to the swamp

[spare talon]

zealot still heavily relies on you knowing basic melee combat like the back of your hand (i mean every class does, but zealot even more so), so it can be a little difficult to get into immediately since its the bread and butter of basically your entire kit
if youve played another class for a while you probably are fine though

[hushed knoll]

I will def play tomorrow, gonna go to bed soon

Sorry Laz

I know you've been looking for people to play

[ripe quest]

look at all of these sleepy people

[hollow token]

dw im like the best at melee (i just spam parry)

[fading vale]

Tomorrow is the weekend so it's cool

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrr-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-armstrong-raiden-handshake-gif-25514798

[hushed knoll]

I'm so lame

[hushed knoll]

Friday is the best night and I always go to bed early

[hollow token]

its already the weekend for me

[fading vale]

Old Man Stan

[ripe quest]

Stan you're a lot of things but I don't think lame is one of them

[quasi marsh]

you know

maybe im coping

[hushed knoll]

Aw

[quasi marsh]

but scattershot flechette actually seems pretty decent to me lol

[fading vale]

Just for special spam really

[quasi marsh]

yeah

seems better than manstopper by far for mixed horde clear at least

[spare talon]

which one of the things ive found to be boring about kant is how long it takes to fire multiple special rounds in a row

[ripe quest]

The potency of unlimited cleave is immense. Like it has slight damage falloff on Lawby's special shot but it's just insane potency

[ripe quest]

It depends on the enemy comp but it'll ruin small elites and below.

[spare talon]

and the roll that i got last night allows me to swap man stopper and fletch any time i want

[ripe quest]

Agri Slug can be built to 1 shot maulers and it's so funny

Also unlimited cleave throwing knives

totally not busted

[spare talon]

oh damn i forgot about knives

do they also inherit the crit chance in reserve from scattershot

[quasi marsh]

wait

manstopper knives go through enemies?

gotta try that

[spare talon]

i mean knives do inherit weapon perks and blessings

[spare dome]

with a few weird exceptions

[quasi marsh]

LMAO

that's hilarious

and yes

they do inherit scattershot i think

[spare talon]

with a surgical hand cannon revolver you can ensure your knife crits and nearly take out a crusher with it

[royal vortex]

nearly

https://streamable.com/qzijg3

[quasi marsh]

https://i.gyazo.com/7a37f3862d98910864d78c2fc1663b46.jpg

holy fuck

i almmost

wonder

if its worth

[spare talon]

ive used it like once dude
i cant remember exactly how much damage it did lol

[quasi marsh]

just running manstopper scattershot just for this meme

[frank night]

Remember to not become addicted to throwing knives

Just say no

[spare dome]

shut up or ill throw a knife at your head

[frank night]

I will die on my feet

Before I live on my knees

[spare dome]

you'll live and die a heretic

[frank night]

Heretic shmeretic

[spare talon]

oh fuck
i actually dont have manstopper

[frank night]

U cannot stop men

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728174260878704643/1178364672756437022/salvatory_ogryn.gif

[frank night]

Holy hell

[placid fiber]

I still can't believe people can go down so easy on normal intensity sedition... We had at least... 10 downs, on top of the death, this run lol

[spare talon]

28 minutes
is this a new character or

[placid fiber]

Yes

lol

Level 1 without the default 10% attack speed is ass with the starting rashad

[spare talon]

god damn

do i gotta make a new character to get manstopper

[placid fiber]

Just check the credits shop on all characters constantly

[quasi marsh]

i got it from brunt

and flechette too

[spare talon]

well im impatient

[quasi marsh]

probably gotta roll a new char if you want to get it now though

[polar nexus]

I got it back in february

[quasi marsh]

man

if only knife kills refunded knife

[placid fiber]

Not immature enough

[quartz yoke]

Fishpiss

[spare talon]

my last burner characters name was i shat your pants

[quasi marsh]

but man

feels like manstopper scattershot just no dmg on the gun itself

[tulip valve]

[heavy arch]

based

[ripe quest]

Depends. Lawby has the special shot and you can distribute the damage really well to make up for it, Agri has a higher finesse mod. w/ Duellist up Agri will do more per shot than a Kant iirc.

smth that I enjoy with the Lawby is the Unyielding damage it has on the ADS, I've gotten 1 shots on Bulwarks and Reapers with it before.

[coarse birch]

do become addicted to tknives

they are good

[ripe quest]

I'm drawn to them since the skill ceiling is higher than the other two just because you have to aim it. Makes it engaging.

[quasi marsh]

just feels like without flechette you need like 6 shots to take down specials in a horde

and even hordes take like 2-3

[spare dome]

i just think theyre legit the best

to a certain level its specials that end runs more than just people taking damage or getting booly by crushers and shit

knife deletes the things that create the situations you'd need a stun nade for

[coarse birch]

@fading vale no manstopper rip

[spare dome]

but also right side tree is too cracked

[ripe quest]

On a Lawby specials should be dying in 2-3 at most on a finesse hit at medium to long range with the ADS. I haven't benchmarked them but I cannot imagine that even a Man-Stopper Lawby would compete with Kant or Flamer's fodder damage.

[fading vale]

2 options, pray for armory to sell it or make a new character

[coarse birch]

if i get desperate enough for a manstopper build ill make a new char

until then ill just check shop

[fleet zealot]

this gonna be me on valentine's day (I stole the flower)

[polar nexus]

we need Valentine Steve

[ionic nymph]

Getting better as zel did a high intensity shock heresy without taking dmg

[spare dome]

someone crop that into adam touches god

[fading vale]

lol

[ripe quest]

The options are either bleeding up to 13 enemies or having unlimited cleave so like idk

[vivid hawk]

I shouldn't be the highest dps when the other zealot is evis martyrdom

and I'm using crusher

[spare dome]

yesss

[fading vale]

my god, it's beautiful

[spare dome]

"God Submits to His Creation"

[heavy arch]

mael reward

complete disrespect

[jovial cradle]

whats a good roll for a pistol? cause i just got one at 79% damage

[heavy arch]

80 is current max

a good roll depends on more than just dmg tho

[woeful oyster]

General question. Which Manstopper/Scattershot shotgun would you pair with the Indignatus Crusher? I'm leaning Agripinaa for snipers. But I would like to go Kant. You think the kant would still be fine?

[heavy arch]

aim down sight with kant and you can still snipe

long distance

[south folio]

yeah, though with kant manstopper/scattershot is redundant

[woeful oyster]

how so?

[south folio]

kant's special has infinite cleave already

[heavy arch]

you want no respite with kant

and then ur 2nd is preference

[heavy arch]

2 flame shots = max burn stacks, you can kill a pox horde in 2 shots

you can light armor on fire and then press f too

[woeful oyster]

I can handle almost anything with the crusher, I need something for long pop shots and good ranged boss damage but it has to be a shotgun

The dot on the kant speaks to me

[heavy arch]

get a burn laspistol

good monstrosity dmg

long range

if u wanna stick with shotty

i still say kant

2 fire shots on the boss

switch to melee

[woeful oyster]

I know what can do it in other weapons but for the sake of my role play tell me which shotgun

[heavy arch]

or just keep it fired up

[ripe quest]

Lawby or Agri since they get a meaningful damage increase from the crits.

Probs Lawby for the special shot.

[woeful oyster]

I want it to be kant so bad for the dot but I can get down with agri

[heavy arch]

i mean

kant is good at longe range

all the shotties are good options

why settle

go try all 3

[south folio]

kant still works but it wouldn't be my choice if you want manstopper/scattershot

[median steeple]

Yeah all of them will do good at longish range just agri has the special for it

I say use Kant all the time

[woeful oyster]

I lean toward the kant for the dots on bosses and if it has the range for snipers then that's what I'll try first.

[heavy arch]

the fire shot opens up a lot of options for u

for every situation imo

[woeful oyster]

But like, I don't see no respite being good on bosses

[median steeple]

Mixed horde? Fire shot
Mauler swarm? Fire shot
Crusher/bulwarks? You guessed fire shot

[south folio]

besides bonbon if that's still bugged, then yeah no respite won't help in that regard

[median steeple]

If you want boss damage while running it use a melee that can do good against em

[south folio]

could go for flechette and fullbore if you reaaaally want the shotgun for just boss damage

[heavy arch]

no respite is for elite and specialist breakpoints

[woeful oyster]

I have the melee part covered. Probably would go scattershot/full bore or flechette.

For a hybrid

We'll see

[fleet zealot]

idk what this means

but it's funny

[median steeple]

It's a reference to how necrons won LVO by deep striking a monolith behind an elder army

[fleet zealot]

i see (i dont)

[median steeple]

Understande

[opal star]

the fact I cant get bulwarks off the very top of their head is such a disappointment

[vivid hawk]

worth keeping?

don't everyone shout at once now

[placid salmon]

it SUCKS!!!

idk looks pretty good lol. from what i've heard, mobility is generally the least important stat and it's still pretty high on yours. and Wrath puts in work
Rev It Up is gimmicky but i enjoy it for getting around, definitely replaceable though

[bitter anvil]

Is good

I had on my veteran wrath blessing

[placid salmon]

the cleave blessings are really interchangeable imo

like, Savage Sweep is generally worse than Wrath i'd say but having either makes a usable horde clearer

[bitter anvil]

Yeah…

[north sedge]

Sweep is generally better

[placid salmon]

i do like how cleave effectively works as a fire rate bonus for melees lol

alongside its main effect of hitting more enemies at once, of course

[glacial stratus]

@royal vortex how can I make this work on my vet?

[vivid hawk]

what should I replace?

[summer condor]

Heya, whats the best traits to put on newer eviscerator

the mark XV, I believe its called

[bitter anvil]

Savage sweep and rampage for full cc.

Same like devil claw

[glacial stratus]

rampage+shred imo

[bitter anvil]

Shred is funny with abusing crits rd

[summer condor]

What about perks?

[polar nexus]

flak maniac, flak elites

flak unyielding

rampage momentum is good too

and savage is more for the mark2

you're dmg is capped at 4 targets, beyond it's just stagger

bloodthirsty can make you chain elites one shot too

[spare talon]

i cannot get over the ogryn being played by someone who sounds like this

im dying laughing at this

[vivid hawk]

what perk/blessing should I change?

[cerulean moth]

Its poitfect

particulalry drunk guys on aussie severs fit the character well

[ripe quest]

Swap +Specialist to +Flak and Rev it Up to Rampage and you have yourself a very solid Chainsword.

[vivid hawk]

what's the combos on this one?

[ripe quest]

Moveset combos or blessings?

[vivid hawk]

moveset

[ripe quest]

Crowd damage is light spam or 3 lights 1 heavy. H1 and H2 have 0 cleave but hit hard, H3 hits fine.

You can basically just do light spam for crowds, heavies for minor ST, and revs for bigger ST.

[vivid hawk]

tfw no rampage unlocked but I have shred 4

swap weak spot damage to flak and SS to shred, right?

[opal star]

reject: "phew, good thing I shoved that poxburster"
the poxburster immediately behind it:
https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[vivid hawk]

yes but, have you ever pushed a burster, only for a leaping dog to push it back into your face?

[opal star]

I have not but that sounds tough

[ripe quest]

If you want yeah. +Cleave isn't bad on the XV it's just not the BiS.

[cerulean moth]

Youer best in slot

[ripe quest]

I'd probs like, keep blessings and just swap +weakspot.

[cerulean moth]

idiot

[ripe quest]

[cerulean moth]

I made a mistake

[spare talon]

i love going down to 2 poxbursters being detonated directly next to me from behind a bulwark by a trauma staff before i have a chance to push it

[cerulean moth]

I hate you

grahh

[spare talon]

resulting in the team instantly crumbling without me there

[vivid hawk]

already have this one

figured I would try shred/rampage on the "new" one

[ripe quest]

Ah yeah you could swap to Shred on the new one. I'm not sure what the exact BP is but you could see if Bloodthirsty allows for Crusher chaining on your Evis.

You have +Elites which I think hits it but you might need Judgement or Martyr stacks up idr

[vivid hawk]

guess the grind continues, still don't have shred of any level for evis

[tropic harbor]

Hey guys, I just charged a poxburster my entire team was shooting at and my teammates made it blow up on me!

Man, it's almost like charging a poxburster your team is activly shooting at is a bad idea

[south folio]

200iq plan your chastise so that it explodes during your charge and you take no damage from it

[fleet zealot]

300iq use the burster explosion as movement tech

[placid salmon]

tf2 medic mindset

[fleet zealot]

using the enemy soldier's rocket to rush him down with a quick swap to a crit ubersaw swing

[cerulean moth]

you posted that image already

your dead to me

post new images or i riot

[south folio]

you're*

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915168547255246902/1160038192079196231/warp.png?ex=65c6dcc1&is=65b467c1&hm=b031de3535bd4255bd3314aaea4e0c110173ab0e1bde74a6ee95c7e625d16d35&

SHUT UP ARCO

[long sluice]

When I'm playing surge staff I pretty got all bursters on lock, yet almost every zealot feels the need to rush them 😄

[cerulean moth]

STUPID LITTLE

fucking little baby poopy head

[tropic harbor]

I also killed a teammate today by bashing a burster with a crusher. Whoops

[north sedge]

https://streamable.com/36hf50

[south folio]

petulant children

[north sedge]

You falsely accused me of killing josho aa i recall

When in fact he put out a hit on me with that sniper

[south folio]

josho would never do that

he would personally finish you off

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cucuso-trippy-psychedelic-psychedelicguy-crazy-gif-12507069

[tropic harbor]

Josho was killed? Sounds like a skill issue to me

[bleak apex]

This is what you zealots look like when you get blown away by barrel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935989994735169546/1200690374759432272/ghetto_smosh_ahh_sound_effect.mp4?ex=65c7190d&is=65b4a40d&hm=7a0a9d251d69023b2027f01b01701567814f4d3861e6e2dbe6d6e72c477137eb&

[tropic harbor]

This is what we see when we see a barrel

https://youtu.be/j1PHFn19tjE?si=_qARevuYx_tsy-4F&t=9

[ripe quest]

Just found a guy who said gg ez after a base damnation game

It's like a mix of 'I'd hope so' and 'tf are you on'

[bitter anvil]

Hey is that official warframe server or just from Reddit?

[ripe quest]

Warframe server.

[bitter anvil]

Yeah does it contain like one developer in discord server?

Or just community managers not associate with DE

[ripe quest]

I have no idea.

[bitter anvil]

Hmmm

[still quartz]

It is pretty gg ez tho

[safe heath]

Hi, im pretty now and just wanted to ask how i am supposed to play zealot

[median steeple]

the vicious hydra must be slain by a mighty hero

[still quartz]

You are in the front line versus the horde in melee most of the time

Unlike other classes (save for Ogryn) you get away with more mistakes in melee combat but you are also the one at highest risk of getting destroyed if you play sloppy

The short answer though is

Run in there and start swinging

Including versus the ranged enemies

[spare talon]

Kill things and don't get killed

Even as a joke, it still pretty much sums up all of zealot unironically

[median steeple]

hit things with big stick till it stops moving

[heavy arch]

the more violent you are the easier the game is

[median steeple]

you hit a zen state when in melee

[still quartz]

This also applies to the enemy

[sage river]

This is how rdr2 works as well

Dishonorable playthroughs are way easier

[heavy arch]

i still need to get around to playing that

[spare talon]

You have some of the highest damage output in the game with your talents, allowing for you to churn almost anything that comes into contact with you. All the while having the most tools to live longer, whether it be damage resistances, superior movement, or outright invulnerability, meaning you can take your big damage and go wild with it with little regard for the consequences (as long as you use those defensive tools lol)

[sage river]

In other words, the better you are at acting like a blender gone wild, the better you are

[spare talon]

Zealots with swords are walking talking woodchippers

Emphasis on the talking though

[sage river]

they don't shut up

[heavy arch]

read crusher guide

understand moveset

learn how to use each crusher move when you need to

[blissful jetty]

omg all are so cool !

[heavy arch]

then from there branchout to other weps

id say thats the easiest crash course for zealot imo

[sage river]

The shoulder pads somehow ruined every single one of them

[blissful jetty]

fair enough

[sage river]

Too wide out for vet and psyker, doesn't fit ogryn that well (way too smooth and polished anyways), and zealot would look better without them

[earnest cave]

Got a dumb question for you guys

What is offense score and defense score?

And is it ok to have really high offense score?

[sage river]

Offense score is how good you are at being a blender, defense score is a measure of how much of a coward you are

[earnest cave]

My defense score isn't as good

[sage river]

Then thats good

[earnest cave]

Wait that isn't good?

[sage river]

No thats a good thing

Defense score being lower shows your faith in the emperor

[earnest cave]

This is what it looks like now

[sage river]

By the way Im kidding, as long as you helped you helped

[earnest cave]

Of course

The overall score tends to be 2nd or 3rd, depending on the makeup of the group.

Psyker is usually up there

[sage river]

Generally offense score is based on dps and total damage, defense is on how much you blocked, dodged etc

[earnest cave]

Well Pysker is usually at the top.

Cool so I'm not dead weight then hahaha

[heavy arch]

how far away are you from top

[sage river]

Either way every class is essential in some way, these scores aren't gonna measure game saving plays

[heavy arch]

for total dmg

[earnest cave]

Depending on the group, usually about 10 points or so

Sometimes I'm on top but I have to...be having like a perfect game

[heavy arch]

if ur last but ur within reasonable range of top dmg

thats fine

[sage river]

Most people at top are having a perfect game

[heavy arch]

it's not about placing on the offense score

[earnest cave]

Alright that makes sense

And those numbers are accurate right?

[heavy arch]

eh

accurate enough

[sage river]

Not much about placing to begin with tbf, as long as you did well you helped as much as you could have, and if you won clearly it was enough

[earnest cave]

I installed the other mod but I have no idea which ones to keep on and which ones to turn off and it's hard to read.

[heavy arch]

if one person in ur team is like double dmg of the next person

id say thats when somethings up

[sage river]

^theyre hacking

[heavy arch]

no

thats p common

[sage river]

(twas a joke)

[earnest cave]

Well the other guy was a chain axe too, we just...ground everything up, like...a squad of crushers were just stupidly simple at that point and I've played combat knife so...I have to be careful around them and rely on the revolver.

First time using any chain axe

[sage river]

Chaxes are generally good for carapace I think, could be wrong

[ripe quest]

Chaxe handles them well, both can 1 shot Crushers.

[sage river]

Prolly not since I think so

[sage river]

Nevermind my brain is peanut sized, instead of raisin sized

[earnest cave]

This is what I'm using right now

[ripe quest]

mmm those blessings are not it

[earnest cave]

Yea

[sage river]

I personally would swap perfect strike if anything

But you cant it looks like

[earnest cave]

I just kinda went with it but that was just something I crafted real quick and threw somewhat reasonable things on it

Nope I need to craft a new one

[heavy arch]

it's uh

[earnest cave]

What do y'all suggest?

[heavy arch]

not reasonable

your picks i mean

[earnest cave]

Was having a hard time finding anything on google unfortunately

[sage river]

Carapace/Flak might've been a better choice

[heavy arch]

you can ask here nbd

[earnest cave]

most of the guides are either outdated

[sage river]

Thats a general weapon thing though, Im not entirely sure about specifics

[ripe quest]

Rampage + anything except for Rev It Up, Bloodletter, and Perfect Strike. Perks are gonna be Flak + Elites/Maniac/Unyielding, Cara if using Bloodthirsty for chaining Crusher 1 shots.

+cleave isn't BIS like it is on the Mk II Evis or the Chainswords but it's nice for the CC.

[sage river]

Flak is a really good perk because an overwhelming majority of noticeable enemies wear it btw

[south folio]

smite psykers truly make me want to play brauto vet all the time

[heavy arch]

who hurt u

[south folio]

i dared to play melee zealot in a game with two smite psykers

[heavy arch]

two

[south folio]

yup

[sage river]

Is that like a good weapon or something

[heavy arch]

RIP

[sage river]

At least it isnt

[south folio]

brautos are nice but mainly because i can just dump ammo onto enemies without having to gaf

[sage river]

three smite psykers

[ripe quest]

I had a smite psyker earlier and I got genuinely upset at how spread out the crowds became. Fucking pre-buff Rumbler experience but without an ammo limit.

[heavy arch]

ooo

ptsd activated

[sage river]

Rumbler got a buff that makes the explosion kill things?

[heavy arch]

1 shot reaper

[sage river]

GAWD DAMN

[ripe quest]

It got a couple things

The talent tree in general just has good stuff but also Adhesive Charge kinda just goes hard

[sage river]

Back in my day (the cretaceous period) rumbler didn't even reliably kill poxwalkers

[heavy arch]

ogryn op

[south folio]

and the insane interaction that rending has with rumbler

[sage river]

What does it do?

[south folio]

you know how rending mitigates damage falloff

because it's coded using armour damage modifiers

[sage river]

No but thats good to know

[south folio]

o

[ripe quest]

Yeah I loved the times where Rumbler with bad shots would make crowds annoying to hit and spread out, along with GG punch having better crowd damage.

[south folio]

the rumbler's explosion damage falloff works the same way

[sage river]

So explosion big

Therefore its a nuke

[south folio]

so rending helps to make you deal epicentre damage in a larger area

[heavy arch]

i miss gg being my go to ogryn wep

[south folio]

and ogryn conveniently has rending% in his skill tree

[sage river]

[polar nexus]

and big boom too

[sage river]

So you literally make the weapon bigger

[ripe quest]

iirc there's a talent in the game that applies rending to burning targets and if they added it I think Showstopper would be viable.

unironically

[south folio]

WOOOOOOOOO BABYYYYYYY

showstopper meta

[heavy arch]

wait wheres that talent

[ripe quest]

OH not talent

blessing

[heavy arch]

o

[ripe quest]

sorry it's 1 am

[south folio]

datamined blessing

time to ping ancient about it

[ripe quest]

mhm

[heavy arch]

o right on

[ripe quest]

There's a lot of datamined blessings rn but that burning rending one has been in the files for a bit now

probs was scrapped

[south folio]

😔

[heavy arch]

sounds op

[south folio]

prob would be either too niche or too strong with the flamer

[ripe quest]

Unironically if they removed the armor downgrade from Fury I wouldn't mind it

[sage river]

Being too niche never stopped them

[heavy arch]

u shut ur mouth

[south folio]

no u

[ripe quest]

Would be a good blessing w/ that environment in mind

[sage river]

They literally made the bolter

[sage river]

the most iconic weapon, which can't find any use outside of being cool

[ripe quest]

Boltgun wasn't niche prior and then FS unevenly buffed it into a different role entirely

[heavy arch]

i love how downgrade gives me options in range wep

[sage river]

Fully aware it wasn't, but plasma gun

[ripe quest]

I wouldn't really call it niche since it's actually pretty ok for what it does.

I mean, from what I understand Plasma Gun is nerf-worthy rn

[sage river]

Thats true, but how general purpose is it?

[south folio]

imagine time travelling into the past before patch 13 and telling players that surgical will eventually be a meta blessing for bolter

[ripe quest]

PF was a +100% power bonus

Boltgun can stagger literally any non-boss enemy

=

busted

[sage river]

So it staggers, but doesn't kill

[ripe quest]

Also SI stacked in 2 shots

[sage river]

Jk though I do like the bolter

[south folio]

bring back +75% ogryn/monster damage on ult pwetty pwease

[ripe quest]

No it was like nuking patrols in a mag lmao

hmm yes waiter more Crushers please

[south folio]

hell yeah

TBTA chads eating

[sage river]

I actually really want a good bolter if it can still do this

[ripe quest]

On Zealot it can burst 5 in a mag rn

[sage river]

Actually just in general tbh

[ripe quest]

Still handles Bulwarks really well too

[sage river]

I cant for the life of me get good modifiers for it though

[sage river]

Crushers

?

[heavy arch]

did bolter get buffed recently

[ripe quest]

mhm

[ripe quest]

A bit ago but it got a lot of buffs

It's a finesse weapon rn

hit heads and/or crit for big damage

[sage river]

So a crusher in 3 shots

[heavy arch]

lol

neat

[ripe quest]

also ADM buffs

[sage river]

With how fast that thing hipfires

[ripe quest]

but that along with the SI nerf makes SI Crusher and Mauler only iirc

[heavy arch]

surgical + what else?

[sage river]

And of course the MOMENT I wanna try something new I get a good stat roll on something else

[ripe quest]

There's a couple ways to set it up but it's just kinda crit + PF/SI depending on what you want your Boltgun to do

[sage river]

Dc I prefer crusher

[ripe quest]

That 5 crushers per mag thing was a Cavalcade + SI boltgun

[heavy arch]

what are the options for doing

[sage river]

I sure do hope this thing doesn't need amazing stats to be functional

[heavy arch]

withotu f?

[ripe quest]

With Fury

[heavy arch]

thats still gr8

[ripe quest]

I imagine you can get higher numbers per mag but it'd be slower afaik

[ripe quest]

Also just like, either general purpose or Ogryn spec'd

[heavy arch]

does ads cancel still work

[ripe quest]

It should yeah

If you have throwing knives you can cancel the pullout animation

[heavy arch]

!

[sage river]

Anyways is this even worth upgrading further?

[heavy arch]

thats p huge

for making bolter comfy

[ripe quest]

Yeah you can upgrade it. If you have a T4 blessing like Hammerblow or smth I'd swap out Thunderstrike for it for better odds at a T4 2nd blessing

[sage river]

Aight, Ill probably not be able to because I have 0 luck stat

[sage river]

2 boltguns, both low stats, I believe the 350 is better because of the ranges of each stat's effectiveness though right?

[sage river]

The blade should be where the trigger is

[heavy arch]

upgrade both

[sage river]

ma feckin plasteel

[heavy arch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sage river]

Alright Ill do the 362 first

Actually 350, damage big mean brain happy

Alright it got surgical and flak, can't be ruined

[heavy arch]

you just need 2 good rolls and ur golden

which u do

oh misread and understood

it's late im going to sleep

[sage river]

aight gn

[earnest cave]

Thank you, yea I was spending a bunch of time looking for a bunch of guides (really liked Royale's for Vermintide). I wish we could have those guides again, I will build one like that.

[ripe quest]

Yeah we just got some smaller stuff rn. We have a weapon table in pins if that's your fancy.

Not perfect but it gets the basics across.

[earnest cave]

All godo

good*

Better than looking at guides that I know are unfortunately out of date.

Alright, so, guessing this should be alright to roll with until I can get a better axe? Would swap out the chrit hit chance

[distant lark]

Zealot worst

[sterile dune]

atrox mvii tactical is the one to get right?

[minor sage]

Momentum to shred and crit to flak or unyield to flak

Up to you

[earnest cave]

Went with flak and unyield

[minor sage]

Unyield is not bad but semi useless

[sage river]

Its funny, not a single class fits me

[sterile dune]

isnt bloodletter decent on evis?

[minor sage]

Because effectively its boss dmg and nothing else really

I believe you one shot bulwarks and reapers baseline

Bloodletter is trash

Bloodthirsty is ok

[sterile dune]

thought I saw asianrobot use bloodletter, was kinda wondering why you'd do that

[buoyant pecan]

i can see it now. you handle the recoil too well and it just goes into ur chest

[minor sage]

bloodletter on evis is what like 6 stacks of bleed?

[sterile dune]

yeah its not much

[minor sage]

Uhhh yeah

[ember yew]

dont take every youtube video as something useful

people are using various crap, but calls it BEST ZILOTTO BUILD NA (CLICK HERE NAO)

BEST META BUILD

and then

there's Lux Autopistol

and you just facepalm like no tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-commissar-tzeentch-confused-gif-26391578

[open echo]

One of the funniest things like this I’ve seen is someone with a stupid title like this, and they were using no talents

[ripe quest]

"Zealot build (New Meta)" and then the very first words in the description are "A lot of this comes down to my opinion..." followed by 7 paragraphs presented as objective info

[frozen ibex]

Double bleed knife flamer

[open echo]

NO

[mighty root]

[placid fiber]

Okay, hear me out guys...

While Zealot is WAY better and easier to build/use than Vet... Vet's talent tree lets them half their stamina regen delay.

So I vote that Vets are now honorary Psykers

[open echo]

thanks hadron

this is bricked right?

[next crow]

whoof i think you want brutal momentum for sure, and either a higher shred blessing for crit cdr memes or headtaker for more power

if you can live with the more or less dead 8% weak spot damage perk it's fine

[dense field]

It's a rashad

swap blessings and it's workable

[obtuse stirrup]

Is that thing actually gonna get enough oneshots to proc bromentum and horde clear?

[fading vale]

yes, it's a rashad

[obtuse stirrup]

Or is that just a veteran problem

My veteran gets stuck on bruisers still ATM sometimes

With a good stats bad perks rashad

[fading vale]

well, no flak is sad

Might miss out on flak shotgunners/gunners and bucket heads but idk

simply solve the problem with marty

and sustained/disdain/duelist

[obtuse stirrup]

Yeah I think zealot is looser than veteran

[true mantle]

@fading vale some Valheim later today?

[fading vale]

I mean I'm down right now lol

but yes

[true mantle]

I'm at the gym rn

[fading vale]

find god

[true mantle]

Our lord and savior, Steve

[fading vale]

I love the random shit zealot chat produces

it's wonderful

[true mantle]

Meowchelangelo delivers

[fading vale]

lol

[worldly nebula]

Smash heretics or pass?

[umbral kindle]

The only god I pray to

[worldly nebula]

@true mantle nice ghost PFP

[sharp minnow]

Anyone know of an issue where the block+push combo messes up? I'm getting intermitted failures of the left click actually registering when I'm holding right. Wondering if anyone else has had it? Or maybe its a hardware issue on my side I should investigate further.

[true mantle]

Thanks fellow poltergeist. Same to you!

[worldly nebula]

Do you have Stamina? or did you just run out?

[ember yew]

created this

and went for a test run

tho im not the fan of chain axes

but works quite well in martyrdom build

[sharp minnow]

mmm, ill see about this. it just started happening like two weeks ago, did something about stamina change to where I would'nt have noticed before?

[worldly nebula]

Well-crafted! And the proof of the pudding is in the eating

[ember yew]

[worldly nebula]

Could just be your gaming mouse giving up the ghost... Or the dreaded Nidhoggr the Net Serpent eating your packets

[sharp minnow]

same mouse, same garbage internet as before. but the mouse failing could be a thing... my old logitech was always fine, this new one is nothing but trouble.

[fading vale]

would have to replace both blessings and miss out on unyielding perk

[sharp minnow]

ah its stamina after all I think lol. works fine standing still, not so much walking. must've unknowingly changed my muscle memory during the combo.

[fading vale]

it should be pretty difficult to not have enough stam for block push

IIRC you only need like 1% stam to do it

[sharp minnow]

standing still I can keep doing it. but cant do it while walking sideways continuously

and now I can. weird. let me clean out my mouse again.

called it too early

[short shell]

The flamethrower feels off is it just me?

[fading vale]

just you

[sharp minnow]

ehh it might be the logitech software fucking it up. so far getting consistent results in meatgrinder turning that off and on. let me try in game...

[high vale]

Say, what do you perks and blessings to you all use on Heavy Eviserator XV?

[copper hawk]

Ra.page

Rampage

Anythin rlse

I use momentum on mine

[rigid trellis]

flak/cara, rampage/momentum

[copper hawk]

Perks I run flakiac

Suggest gettin the keep swingin mod as well

XV feels clunky chaining lights together

[obtuse stirrup]

When do you use the rev?

[rigid trellis]

on big enemies and bosses

and maulers/mutants

however I believe if you have +maniac damage you can kill a mutant with an uncharged heavy attack without revving

[obtuse stirrup]

Ogryn and maulers then, is that on light or heavy attack?

[rigid trellis]

always heavy

[young temple]

What would you all recommend for this, brethren?

[copper hawk]

replace both blessings

[ember yew]

brutal momentum and headtaker

[copper hawk]

leave the perks

yah

bm and headtaker

or bm and deci

up 2 u

i prefer ht

since it's annoyin droppin stacks

[young temple]

thanks, i'll have to grind a little for those

[copper hawk]

brutal momentum is a requirement though

for the caxe

elsewise use a diff wpn till u get bm

[mighty saddle]

Which perk do I change?

keeping crit hit dmg is better right?

[vocal pulsar]

Neither are great

Knife needs uncanny strike

So leave a 'slot' open for that

[obtuse stirrup]

Bad knife I think

Modifiers aren't so good and you don't have 2 excellent perks/blessings on it

[placid salmon]

it feels weird that carapace only matters for 1, sometimes 2 enemies lol

[rigid trellis]

mauler head, crusher and the twins' helmets and chest piece

[obtuse stirrup]

Technically it can matter against all ogryn

If you hit their little bits of armour

[rigid trellis]

yeah reapers and bulwarks have some on their arms and legs

[obtuse stirrup]

Twins are Carapace body and head? Wow

[rigid trellis]

yup

[obtuse stirrup]

That explains the crazy variance in how groups do getting their health down

[rigid trellis]

mk15 evis with +cara does a shit load of dmg to them

[obtuse stirrup]

So if you don't have good anti-carapace you have to go for the limbs?

[placid salmon]

what kind of armor is the chaos spawn's helmet

[obtuse stirrup]

Or roll a different build for the mission I guess

Since it's not on quick play anyway

Chaos spawn is full-body Unyielding iirc

[obtuse stirrup]

Like all monsters

[rigid trellis]

all mid mission bosses are fully unyielding

[obtuse stirrup]

Oh, body is flak

For twins

That's a relief

[rigid trellis]

yeah mb confused it with the shoulder

[placid salmon]

interesting

so the helmet doesn't actually act like a separate armor?

[rigid trellis]

nah

[mighty saddle]

?? Even I know that riposte + flesh tearer is the best blessing combo

I just don't know the the perks to change

[placid salmon]

I hope we get some sort of human boss again, I liked the twin invasion fights

[mighty saddle]

wait, not fleshtearer

it should be lacerate

[obtuse stirrup]

Uncanny

[placid salmon]

I have a knife with rending backstab and weakspot damage on bleeding targets for zealot, works p well

[mighty saddle]

i'm not going to be using this to fight crushers, why would I want uncanny on it

[fading vale]

uh cause uncanny helps every armor type except infested and unarmored, buffs bleed damage, and you should also be hitting crushers

[south folio]

uncanny strike is still a +25% damage bump to everything besides unarmoured/infested at the worst

[fading vale]

and it's easy to stack cause why aren't you hitting heads

at the worst being important

depending on the armor type your lights will be over double damage

[placid salmon]

backstab-weakspot hits on ogryns is easier than it'd seem according to my friend

havent been trying it tho

[fading vale]

not to mention with uncanny up + flesh tearer your bleed is going to do far more damage

if you want to bleed

[stable fox]

I mean... I can respect the sense in naming.

[placid salmon]

i forgot to name my zealot

mf is named Farridge

[polar nexus]

@sharp zodiac

[sharp zodiac]

Hm?

Ah