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sharp zodiac
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House

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Roadhouse

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Roadhouse

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Roadhouse

royal vortex
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can u repeat that one more time

sharp zodiac
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Roadhouse

royal vortex
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thank u

frank night
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ur like female josho

royal vortex
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??????

sharp zodiac
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Bleh, these vit

WHAT

frank night
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the world has crushed u and ur only response is a competitive shitting gif

royal vortex
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@coarse birch are u playing

coarse birch
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yeah im throwing together some vet builds

sharp zodiac
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Anyways

coarse birch
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but im on

royal vortex
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ur being conscripted

sharp zodiac
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Bleh these vitamins taste bad

vocal pulsar
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baed

frank night
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baed

vocal pulsar
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strike team 50

royal vortex
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mankar summons thee

sharp zodiac
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Mankar summoning 50,000 joshos at mittens and Arcos doorstep

coarse birch
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im honored

frank night
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if josho is summoned more than 500 yards from familiar surroundings he will spontaneously combust

royal vortex
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alcohol really brings out the worst in u

frank night
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I have had 2 low % drinks

deep imp
frank night
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are you going to become violently insane if we dislike it

sharp zodiac
frank night
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next question

sharp zodiac
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No you dum fu

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HC is much better than speedloader

sharp zodiac
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And you can swap the perks for maniflak

frank night
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maniflak????

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maniflak??????????

royal vortex
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ur perks are p unfortunate

frank night
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FLAKIAC

deep imp
sharp zodiac
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No mittens

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Maniflak is much better

royal vortex
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the problem with crit/weakspot damage is it only applies to the bonus damage granted by crit/headshot instead of the total

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so if u have a 100 base damage 100 headshot or crit damage weapon and u have 10% weakspot u might expect the total damage to be 220 if u hit the crit or weakspot

sharp zodiac
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I can list down each thing and what to change

royal vortex
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but it's 210

exotic portal
# deep imp ?

3x health curios kinda... wtf, 2x fury charge instead of dodge on momentum, yikes.

royal vortex
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which makes it v unfortunate

sharp zodiac
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Josho your brain turned on the autism button again

royal vortex
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what the hell

frank night
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FLAKIAC

frank night
sharp zodiac
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I will lobotimize you

royal vortex
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+carapace on dclaw also just isnt giving u enough to matter

frank night
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I need to use [Ableism] tags when I pick these dialogue choices

royal vortex
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it's not killin crushers well enough

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ur better off with flak/maniac generally

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reload speed also just isn't significant enough to warrant perk/blessing slots

dense field
frank night
dense field
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Remove critical & weakspot damage perks from all your weapons and forget they exist

royal vortex
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i would probs take at least 1 toughness curio - especially if ur spending the points to get to enduring faith

dense field
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Toughness regen only affects coherency regen speed (including Loner aura btw)

royal vortex
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TWBS is something u should probs consider grabbing as well. it applies to all stuns and this is important specifically for dclaw

dense field
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No TWBS bad

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No toughness bad

royal vortex
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because if you get hitstaggered when you hit the parry button the server will treat it as if you haven't actually parried

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but the client plays the animation

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so u think ur parrying but ur not

dense field
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This is deranged

exotic portal
sharp zodiac
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With two points left to put into whatever

exotic portal
sharp zodiac
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Yeah

dense field
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Sustained assault is too good for claw to ignore

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I'd rather drop this

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for points

north sedge
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he also makes weird builds

sharp zodiac
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But yeah

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Dropping that shit can save you points

dense field
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this is actually ok

exotic portal
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but then again

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"teammates"

dense field
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Building for true solo is silly unless you try to do a true solo run

exotic portal
minor sage
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I wonder if this is gonna be a case where

  1. He actually takes the feedback and improves build
    or
  2. He gets mad and tells everyone else that it works for him and ignores feedback
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lul

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always a tossup yakno

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you guys put so much effort

hushed knoll
exotic portal
dense field
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I don't think he should KEKW_ogryn

minor sage
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whos choko

sharp zodiac
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Dt Yter I believe

dense field
sharp zodiac
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Oh fiddlesticks I could've just red that lol

dense field
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DT&VT2

minor sage
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o

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it's a youtube build

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LOL

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good lord

exotic portal
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awhole community for d'claw zealots now?

north sedge
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yea but it's not chocob asking about it, heh

hushed knoll
minor sage
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yeah it's unfortunate lmao

minor sage
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he probably just puts whatever he's using onto the builds

dense field
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the government doesn't want you to know

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about fiddlesticks

sharp zodiac
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Say

minor sage
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and he probably crafts shit randomly without crunching numbers

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which is an ok way to play

sharp zodiac
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You think when they're making these builds they're not just psyops to trick players into bad builds and then they go back to their standard builds?

minor sage
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but it's kinda bad if you're a content creator LOL

ember yew
exotic portal
dense field
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idk, he's doesn't make "content", his videos are just solo or duo runs without commentary

spare talon
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throwing my hat in the ring for dclaw builds, as a parry enthusiast
the 2 missing points can be thrown towards
SoC
or a mix of anoint, +10% piety crit, duelist, or dr on dodge
personal preference on how much offense or defense you want

runic gale
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If that were the case, I'd concur

minor sage
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to other people

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obviously to them it doesn't matter lmao

runic gale
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Where is it advice lol

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People spam the comments asking for the builds regardless

minor sage
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are you dumb? if you make a build and promote it, that's advice

ember yew
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trust

runic gale
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To the point where posting the build is nearly obligatory

minor sage
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lmao

spare talon
exotic portal
spare talon
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i remember back during the feats being the choice of 3 for 6 columns

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i watched a trauma staff build

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made it

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ran it

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and it was the most ass build ive every played with

minor sage
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lol ofc

exotic portal
minor sage
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yt builds are like that

sharp zodiac
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Yter builds worst build

spare talon
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it had synergy yes
but it was a useless synergy that didnt actually benefit me in a meaningful way

median steeple
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malice gamer energy

sharp zodiac
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Asked to "leave" the astra militarum

spare talon
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it was a quicken trauma staff build

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that should tell you everything

dense field
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When the game is just too easy

sharp zodiac
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I know how to make the game harder

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Remove every weapon

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Replace them with sticks and rocks

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Tiny onzs

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For humans

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And stick length depending on the class

dense field
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That was pre-patch 13

spare talon
dense field
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Melee weapons were ass

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Except for 2-3 meta weapons

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which were mediocre

median steeple
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shout out to animatrix for being incredibly disturbing

exotic portal
dense field
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Antax

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Power sword

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Bull Butcher III

exotic portal
cursive cloak
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what are good perks for a flamer?

dense field
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Illisi was added later but yes, it was EXTREMELY powerful

north sedge
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flak/elites

dense field
cursive cloak
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ty

onyx solar
median steeple
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yoda dont do it

sharp zodiac
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Crush my nuts with this rock I will

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Inflict massive pain on myself I shall

open echo
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How tf was there a lvl 3 in auric damm

exotic portal
open echo
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coudn't votekick either

open echo
north sedge
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came in with a friend

nimble fiber
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he was the one

north sedge
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can bypass in a group

open echo
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thats...

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silly

nimble fiber
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billy

open echo
hollow ember
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his friend prob wanted the lv3 to quit the game lol

light holly
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a pretty bad way if they're new monkaGIGA

hollow ember
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I imagine that poor soul gonna get PTSD hitting those poxwalkers with his grey lv3 weapon

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every poxwalker gonna feel like fighting a plague ogryn for that poor soul

ember yew
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he's ruining the game for his friend

hollow ember
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yea

open echo
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they were playing vet too

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using the basic lasgun

hollow ember
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oh no

north sedge
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i mean, not like they have any options

flint sable
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Not bad?

fading vale
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mostly perfect except for crit damage of course, that's a dead perk

ionic nymph
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I see why people don't like special blitz

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Getting rushed by like 30 muties at once

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Or the 6 poxbursters out a door right beside Me while I was fighting muties

south wren
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brunt was cooking but he fumbled with the blessing hard

nimble fiber
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30 muties is good I like

ionic nymph
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Sad times

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After thrust 4 on my hammer I get it on a axe instead

fading vale
exotic portal
bitter anvil
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Tock tock tock tock

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Boom!

exotic portal
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chain reaction

placid fiber
ionic nymph
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Lowest stat hammer being 70

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Ayy

left iron
fading vale
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lol

ionic nymph
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Nice

fading vale
ionic nymph
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Oof

left iron
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I forgor who i was playing with

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I paid the price

bitter anvil
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Man I hate poxburster mixed with special horde

ember yew
# left iron

did they just blowed your as with a barrel into a poxbasta?

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combo breaker

left iron
ornate bone
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In hindsight, after I watched the videos 8 times from the comfort of not being present there, I'm confident they were entirely your fault and easily avoidable

left iron
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I got skissued

ornate bone
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You got le funnied by the game

exotic portal
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soo much fresh meat in aurics

north sedge
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This is like, the very spirit of when stan doubles down on something absurd

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Like the socks argument

spare talon
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what was the socks argument

ripe quest
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How many socks in a mile and how many of them are left socks

hollow ember
ripe quest
hollow ember
royal vortex
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just had the best ogryn solo clutch of my life

north sedge
royal vortex
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@coarse birch and @vocal pulsar watched me valiantly defeat 4 gunners and a plogryn

median steeple
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ok I can get why he saw the socks

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but man

north sedge
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This went on for at least an hour and he still claims she is wearing socks

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Oh

coarse birch
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that mission didnt exist

north sedge
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It gets better

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It's animated

median steeple
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oh boy

royal vortex
frank night
spare talon
# north sedge

oh my god was he talking about the light part of the legs that have no shadows from the skirt

spare talon
placid fiber
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Had a random thammer user in the lobby before our mission started, so I looked at his hammer. That thing was beautiful... Amazing stats, 1 dead perk(sadly), 25% unyielding damage, t4 thrust, and t4 slaughterer

placid fiber
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Nearly 1 shot a heresy host with it

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from the front, with shroudfield

exotic portal
frank night
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Grant us the socks and wipe away the debt

placid fiber
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It turned when they aggroed it or something before he got the hit in

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I think they did 1 shot the plague ogryn, later, tho

exotic portal
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the mace swipes so you can kinda stand sideways for backstab too

ripe quest
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For a whole hour too I imagine.

royal vortex
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this conversation has happened many times over

placid fiber
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Oh and the person wasn't running martyrdom with the thammer, on a side note >.>

north sedge
fleet zealot
north sedge
royal vortex
frank night
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the saga of the guy with a gun on the front of a dvd

exotic portal
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What's the difference between slaughterer and headtaker for thammer blessings?

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hit vs kill

north sedge
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A bit more power with slaughterer but it comes down to preference mostly

exotic portal
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why ain't people running skullcrusher instead?

north sedge
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Either way it's mainly for dealing with crowd clear

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Because hammer wants power more than anything

exotic portal
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found the horde clear on thammer to be bad

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good for stagger but ass

north sedge
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Without slaughterer/headtaker you lose breakpoints on some stuff

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Eh, it's not the best but fine

exotic portal
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punishment & running martyrdom

shy osprey
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so im debating how worthwile it is to run 3 Plus 1 wound curios with martyrdom

north sedge
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If you're running marty you run wounds

deep imp
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how to find some good builds ? every time I send a build here it looks like nobody likes it lol

shy osprey
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i get that. martyrdom is weird tho cause if you arent playing perfectly you can just... die

north sedge
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There's a builds thread here, or ask for a specific weapon build

fleet zealot
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only place online that is peer reviewed

exotic portal
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3x extra wounds

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says up to 7 max wounds

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need all?

dense field
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why not?

north sedge
exotic portal
fleet zealot
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you run 3x wounds on martyr only you are a coward who runs +1/+2 wounds for some reason

deep imp
fleet zealot
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and you can start figuring out the rough meta, what is good what isn't

exotic portal
north sedge
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What

exotic portal
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think i ran sprint efficiency on all 3 curios just to compensate

north sedge
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Stamina aint helping shit

exotic portal
spare talon
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i just joined 3 auric games right before the end event
literally free money

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into the pile it goes

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ive almost made back the plasteel i spent for that funny bleed lawbringer in just 30 minutes

ripe quest
royal vortex
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i need ordos

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so badly

spare talon
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i still didnt take advantage of the plasteel bug

fleet zealot
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what

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more stam doesn't make you faster

spare talon
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i didnt actually believe it was real until it was patched

fleet zealot
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you aren't real bro

ripe quest
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I went from having like 2 orange weapons to having a 4/5 minimum orange for each weapon at the time when it happened

exotic portal
dense field
fleet zealot
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you can run infinitely

light holly
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Why would you need to run longer

fleet zealot
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you just lose a little bit of speed

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at 0 stam

dense field
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Sprinting with stamina is faster

light holly
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And why not just run

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Stam eff

fleet zealot
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marginally faster

dense field
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than with 0 stam

spare talon
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i think im loading into my 3rd in progress game

fleet zealot
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and +3 stam instead of wounds for martyr? your trolling

exotic portal
ripe quest
fleet zealot
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what mace is slow

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crusher?

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no it's fast asf

light holly
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So what yall getting at is you're running a +3 stam to run more

fleet zealot
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thammer?

light holly
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Why not just, run 3 stam eff

fleet zealot
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and don't ruin your wound slot

exotic portal
light holly
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And get a good base curio for zealot

light holly
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Every day

fleet zealot
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i've never needed stamina for all my characters

ripe quest
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Psyk testing clued me in on it early since I was like bro there's no way I just made a weapon for testing and I have 2k plasteel rn

light holly
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For zealot stam is rarely an issue

fleet zealot
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not a single time have I ever been "wow i need +9 stamina to win"

exotic portal
light holly
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Because all the melee weapons have good stam

ornate bone
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I roll marty with 2 wounds

light holly
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Or imo

spare talon
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nvm this loading is taking too long
either im about to get an error or im going to load into a mission failed screen

ripe quest
ornate bone
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But I use health on the third

light holly
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I should say, you're playing max 1hp anyways

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With max wounds

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IMO

dense field
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losing 5 wounds is fine if you have 7 total but it's kinda risky with 6

exotic portal
light holly
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Not 2 wounds + 3 stam

light holly
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No wait doe

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Just run, run eff

dense field
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But I try to not lose health when I run martyrdom

ripe quest
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On Heresy and Damn max stacks is 6

dense field
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I just play normally

light holly
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Gotta be at 1hp with max toughness always

exotic portal
dense field
light holly
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If youre running a wound build

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You're taking max wounds

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Right?

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So even if you're 1hp

exotic portal
light holly
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You'll just go down

light holly
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Wait

ornate bone
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Marty is for people to play risky and get progressively stronger

light holly
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Why would you say that and take stamina?

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Because stamina isn't giving you more hp or survivability

dense field
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Stamina is generally good

ornate bone
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People just getting themselves low on health are wasting a good resource in my opinion

light holly
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Imo you have enough stamina as zealot

exotic portal
light holly
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Do you think the stamina helped you or the movement speed on the knife?

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Sorry if I'm being anal

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I'm just curious as to what this means

ornate bone
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I believe SIGMAR helped this man

ripe quest
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Generally you don't want to drop your health intentionally w/ it since once you hit 3-4 stacks you're getting Judgement levels of damage. imo going below that is panic insurance for if you go even lower.

light holly
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More like Sugmar

spare talon
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why am i loading into so many in progress games that are in the 2nd half now

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i mean i dont mind

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but why now

exotic portal
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Stay up

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clutch it

shy osprey
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you love to see it

exotic portal
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y'kno

dense field
hushed knoll
light holly
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I thought this whole discussion was about running stamina on zealot

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And using stamina to get more sprint

ripe quest
dense field
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Synergy

light holly
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(While honestly you should probably be running, run efficiency)

dense field
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Stamina does a lot of things

ripe quest
hushed knoll
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Yes

light holly
ripe quest
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holy shit you obliterated that

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why is the crust fucking gray stan

hushed knoll
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Itโ€™s not mine haha

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I just wanted your opinion

light holly
ripe quest
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Oh thank the heavens

light holly
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Stone oven pizza

hushed knoll
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I would eat it tbh

light holly
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The crust kiiinda looks like that

north sedge
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If this was stan pizza there would be honey mustard near it

fleet zealot
ripe quest
light holly
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Hmm maybe you're right

hushed knoll
light holly
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Its a little... maybe burnt

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
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yea it has the neopolitian crust

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but it has the new haven tomato pie look

fleet zealot
ripe quest
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But I also just like, make pizzas with the crust covered with something. At the minimum like a garlic butter brush over it.

light holly
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Yeah olive oil

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Not.. dry

fleet zealot
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pretty big in the pizza world culture

hushed knoll
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STOP DABBING

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
ripe quest
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Also that pizza looks like they put a bunch of cheese in the middle and were scared to put them on the edges.

open echo
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hadron please

light holly
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It looks like lava

open echo
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don't do it

light holly
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Which is maybe a little worrying

open echo
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help

ripe quest
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the texture looks shit but that seems to just be chili flakes

ripe quest
open echo
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NO

ripe quest
north sedge
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The pizza stan posted looks on the fancy end, well above his usual fair

light holly
fleet zealot
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in some parts of italy the bread is the "pasta" so to speak

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and is the most important part

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i think america style pies outside of chicago and some new york have a poor bread quality

light holly
modest quiver
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is it worth swapping anything out on this for Thrust?

fleet zealot
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yea, pineapple doesn't belong on an italian pie,

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but italy rome, sicially have so many different pizza style

north sedge
fleet zealot
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deep fried, square/rectangle

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pizza changes

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as the people change, moving from location to location and what's available

north sedge
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And crit hit to flak

modest quiver
modest quiver
north sedge
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Yea thunderous is dog

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God no

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Weakspot is terrible

fleet zealot
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i personally don't like the koreans putting mayo and corn on pizza

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but that's how they evolved their pizza

modest quiver
fleet zealot
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i think there is more than enough room in this world for any kind of pizza, it's the quality put in that matters

fleet zealot
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weakspot perk is terrible

north sedge
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Weakspot adds little dmg

ripe quest
fleet zealot
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it calculates terribly

modest quiver
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oof

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I have a few other hammers too, mind if I share them to see if they're all a bit poo?

fleet zealot
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perks unyielding, elites, flak, maniac

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in that order of prio

north sedge
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That one will be very good with the changes we said

fleet zealot
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cara rn doesn't change a breakpoint

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idk who told you thunderous and weakspot were good

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but i suggest you report them to their local government agency /j

modest quiver
open echo
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Bottom left could be very nice

north sedge
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Stick with the original one you showed

modest quiver
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highest Thrust I have is thrust III, is there a breakpoint i'd be missing by not having IV?

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or is it just good QoL?

fading vale
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it depends if you are using crucis or ironhelm, but yes

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maulers ragers and crushers will be a bit more annoying without thrust 4

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that first hammer is good if you swap thunderous to thrust and crit to flak

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and then out of the 4 you posted

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the first 3 are all workable with luck on roll

modest quiver
fading vale
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yeah that's a very good hammer, just try to find thrust 4 at some point

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also FWIW the only way to one shot crushers with hammer rn is with chastise, or several marty stacks and other buffs + cara which I wouldn't really suggest, not reliable like it used to be

modest quiver
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Okay I'll keep them for now until I have a bit more plasteel, who knows maybe I'll be graced with thrust iv

shy osprey
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if i want to get just a flesh wound, where would i look for a group?

fading vale
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lfg channel

shy osprey
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gotcha

modest quiver
fading vale
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you can run shroud with hammer for funny boss damage

hollow ember
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I salute to whoever plays Crucis, the times when i want to pop an elite with special and a poxwalker/bruiser appears out of nowhere and tanks it made me put the weapon on hold lol

fading vale
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but I wouldnt suggest hammer without chastise overall, chastise provides a ton of utility to hammer

modest quiver
fading vale
hollow ember
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yea i respect it

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I couldn't do it, gonna try ironhelm next

fading vale
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I have like 900 hours on only crucis lol

hollow ember
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god damn

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do u have a footage of a run u have?

fading vale
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I have some older stuff

hollow ember
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would love to see Experienced Crucis player

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tag me if u ever feel like posting one of ur runs

placid fiber
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Nearly was out of ammo lol

fading vale
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and there's a couple other runs, the first hammer video on my channel is just flamer lording cause I wasn't so confident back then

agile pivot
placid fiber
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Did a heresy no ammo pickupts scab only specialist waves. I had to solo clutch right before the midpoint x.x

agile pivot
placid fiber
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I had to shoot a decent bit that run, despite us having 2 psykers with staves

fading vale
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I did

placid fiber
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holy fuck, I took 875 damage that run?!

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Geeze

fading vale
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is it like a vodka sauce pizza

hushed knoll
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Idk I just found it online

north sedge
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Of course

fading vale
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then why did you post it

north sedge
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I thought stan ordered real food, shame

hushed knoll
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It was made in Virginia

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I just wanted to see what people thought

placid fiber
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This was the xii I had that run... max ammo and I only had 9 left in reserves in the end...

fading vale
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the crust seems a bit burnt

hushed knoll
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It looks kinda pretty

fading vale
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idk how I feel about the dough just judging on the look of the crust

hushed knoll
#

What

fading vale
#

I'd have to try it of course

hushed knoll
#

Why would you feel bad about Dough

fading vale
#

cause it doesn't really look like any typical pizza dough

hushed knoll
#

Reynolds

fading vale
#

and they burnt the crust

north sedge
#

Hahahahaha

hushed knoll
#

I just had terrible Chinese food

north sedge
#

Absolutely not Ryan Reynolds

fading vale
hushed knoll
#

Like rib bits but I apparently didnโ€™t order homeless

#

Boneless

royal vortex
#

neither of those people remotely look like ryan reynolds

hushed knoll
#

So they were all bone and no meat

fading vale
#

homeless rib bits from a Chinese restaurant what

hushed knoll
#

And plain lo mein but it had like nothing on it

#

Like no sauce

#

Just noodles

north sedge
#

This was before ryan reynolds was even a thing

hushed knoll
#

I didnโ€™t know thatโ€™s what plain meant

royal vortex
#

pog

fading vale
#

"I ordered plain lo mein and it was plain"

hushed knoll
#

I just wanted without meat

#

But there was not even sauce

#

Or weggies

#

Veggies

modest quiver
#

thank you all for the hammer advise, I appreciate it ๐Ÿ™‚

north sedge
#

Weggies

#

๐Ÿซก

hushed knoll
#

NO SALUTING FACE

royal vortex
north sedge
#

Homeless ribs and weggies

fleet zealot
#

๐Ÿซก

#

weggies

hushed knoll
#

FOD DSMMIT

fleet zealot
#

sounds like a toddle

hushed knoll
#

God dammit

fleet zealot
#

"I DOn'T WANNA EAT MY WEGGIES"

hushed knoll
#

Toddle

north sedge
#

Spider Toe Toddle

woeful oyster
#

The only way to make the hardest hitting boss killing hammer is with Thrust + Headtaker+Unyielding+Crit Damage. But they don't want to hear it.

fleet zealot
#

i'd say that's a good char

#

i think the crust is a dry

#

and they may have used a poor quality cheese

hushed knoll
#

God I love topical smothers

#

Tropical smoothie

north sedge
#

I see Doc has picked another stupid hill to die on

hushed knoll
#

Who is doc

modest quiver
fleet zealot
#

i need a 5 lettter word for doctor,

fading vale
woeful oyster
#

I still haven't seen anyone with a hammer that hits harder than mine.

fleet zealot
#

for a full judgement

hushed knoll
north sedge
#

Stan

fading vale
north sedge
#

I literally answered you

woeful oyster
#

IF

hushed knoll
#

What

#

Oh

fleet zealot
#

alright im

#

gonna kms

#

brain damage evolved too far

grave ravine
#

Is this salvageable

hushed knoll
#

Wait I asked twice???

#

What the fuck

fleet zealot
#

it's self sabatoging me

hushed knoll
#

What the fuck

#

I donโ€™t remember asking twice

north sedge
#

Bay leaf

fading vale
hushed knoll
#

Pluto is cuddly

#

Elmo

fleet zealot
#

just go elites you beta

#

pluto

grave ravine
north sedge
woeful oyster
#

If we're talking exclusive boss damage and no trash...Then yes. It is fact

fleet zealot
fading vale
# fleet zealot crit damage

they have been defending crit damage for the past day, and said weakspot is too unreliable versus crit damage because for some reason we are pretending that getting big hits doesn't involve weakspot

fading vale
fleet zealot
#

ahh

#

but still

#

crit damage and weakspot daamge both suck

#

and honestly

fading vale
#

it's like a 2% damage increase if that on a crit weakspot

fleet zealot
#

idc which is better crit or weakspot

#

cause i'm not gonna look at the hammer's crit/weakspot ratio

north sedge
woeful oyster
#

Behold, The God Hammer.

fading vale
#

lul 79 damage and 71 pen

woeful oyster
#

Eat it

modern lintel
#

Bricked

woeful oyster
#

Where is yours

vocal pulsar
#

Not God hammer

woeful oyster
#

Yes

vocal pulsar
#

Close though

woeful oyster
#

It is

fleet zealot
#

yea does

#

stealth even give a crit

#

i know chastise does

grave ravine
fading vale
#

here's the one I use recently

vocal pulsar
ripe quest
woeful oyster
#

I'm fine with saying for total damage you want cara and unyielding. But if it's about BOSS DAMAGE. You can't deny

ripe quest
#

Can't miss out on 2% damage

grave ravine
#

I wish the base stats were better but this is the first evis i've used and by the emperor it can put in some work

fading vale
#

you also don't want cara anymore since the crusher hp buff made it extremely difficult to one shot crushers without chastise

#

and flak is now good cause they fixed flak and the normals are better than they used to be, and also for buffed HP maulers

hushed knoll
dense field
#

Thank you mr.Emperor

hushed knoll
woeful oyster
#

Whatever you scoreboard slaves want for total damage is fine. But we all know who and what hits the boss the hardest.

#

ME

distant lark
#

zealot sucks

fading vale
#

ogryn is braindead

north sedge
#

Don't bother, all this dude does is post that once daily

fading vale
#

sounds like an ogryn chatter

grave ravine
#

He got his rations taken away

fading vale
#

TFW puri becomes your most preferred ogryn chatter

vocal pulsar
#

Hi stan

ripe quest
grave ravine
#

Ngl I didn't have fun playing Ogryn until I made an Ogrynheimer build

ripe quest
#

The big bomb is indeed fun yeah

woeful oyster
#

I don't take slaughterer because if it lets me down one time, that's too much for me.

fleet zealot
grave ravine
#

big bomb + rumbler + the gun ability

ripe quest
spare talon
#

i finally get it

#

i finally understand why people hate playing with a smite user

#

that was the most boring maelstrom ive ever played

woeful oyster
#

C O N S I S T E N C Y

#

conformity in the application of something, typically that which is necessary for the sake of logic, accuracy, or fairness.

fading vale
#

what

copper hawk
#

Hehe

#

Ourple lightning..

spare talon
#

i cant parry anything if theyre just sitting there waiting

sharp zodiac
#

Most intensive fights are the ones where someone needs to move first but neither do

#

Clearly

copper hawk
#

Ourple lightning

sharp zodiac
#

DO SOMETHING

spare talon
#

also i finally remembered to test something

fading vale
#

just don't fight gunners

sharp zodiac
#

The melee guy should stop meleeing all over the place

#

No more melee time

ripe quest
hollow star
#

I specifically take that one perk that prevents getting stunned just so I can shit all over gunners

#

All my homies hate gunners

polar nexus
#

zealot should only be ranged

spare talon
polar nexus
#

i parried kill a crusher yesterday, felt cool

woeful oyster
spare talon
#

i still dont parry crushers if i can avoid it, too risky, way too easy to have something else hit you and then you just get a concrete slap to the head

hollow star
#

Yeah but you look cool if you pull it off

sharp zodiac
#

Or you get to taste conk creet

#

Two coin side

ripe quest
copper hawk
polar nexus
#

well i did not have any other choice at that moment

hollow star
#

Honestly feeling cool is worth the risk

copper hawk
#

Sometimes i think ppl who post on reddit

#

Dont actuallt play the game

#

They just larp that they do

hollow star
ripe quest
hollow star
#

At leastthey didn't instant drop lmao

spare talon
#

but anyway

#

my point was

#

i dont parry crushers

#

or maulers for that fact

copper hawk
#

Cant the parry like

spare talon
#

that doesnt mean i wont be parrying during a fight against them

sharp zodiac
copper hawk
#

Nullify the damage if timed

spare talon
sharp zodiac
#

Oh I see what happened

spare talon
ripe quest
spare talon
hollow star
#

Can you 2 shot the twins on hard mode with a thunder hammer

spare talon
#

it would have been a perfect parry otherwise

fading vale
hollow star
#

Shit

spare talon
spare talon
#

as long as i dont see anyone starting an overhead, im perfectly safe parrying
the moment i see an overhead, i back off or chastise to get them to stop doing that

fading vale
#

but you can parry overheads

ripe quest
# woeful oyster Yes

Calling us scoreboard slaves and then agreeing that you just hit bosses harder for zero benefit outside of scoreboard numbers is wacky.

spare talon
woeful oyster
#

I don't use the scoreboard. It's for my ego.

hollow star
#

There's a nice amount of satisfaction I can see from obliterating a boss in half a second

spare talon
#

but in a situation with more than like 10 dudes, that can go so wrong so fast

spare talon
fleet zealot
#

got any snackrifices?

woeful oyster
#

I mained Great Sword in Monster Hunter World if that helps you understand.

ripe quest
hollow star
#

Oh lmao

ripe quest
#

Hitting a 1-2 shot on a boss is and will always be nutty.

fleet zealot
#

slash joke

hollow ember
deep imp
fading vale
ripe quest
hollow ember
#

way more normal heavies compared to special attacks than what i expected

woeful oyster
#

I never tried to stop you from using your prefernce. I just said I hit the hardest on bosses.

fleet zealot
#

god

#

at least go weakspot

#

it isn't hard

north sedge
#

don't mind doc, he's got a terminal case of edge lord

woeful oyster
#

fuck weakspot

fading vale
spare talon
#

whats the argument about

novel onyx
#

Agrippa braced auto gun decent on zealot? Melk has one that looks okay.

spare talon
#

ik about hammer but what vs what on hammer

woeful oyster
#

I'm not immune to brain-off boss murder

fading vale
sharp zodiac
woeful oyster
#

I mean don't get me wrong Crit Damage is not good. But only because FatShat mathed it out like shit

indigo quartz
#

but goddamn I do not miss

woeful oyster
#

It's just about hitting it the hardest and laziest way possible

indigo quartz
#

pistol meta

hollow ember
#

nerfed normal heavies?

spare talon
indigo quartz
#

enemies got more HP

#

a lot more HP

hollow ember
#

ah i see

indigo quartz
#

like if you compare t-hammer to like

#

vet's new folding shovel

#

or ogyrn shovel

spare talon
#

it basically requires the perfect situation, which isnt something you should be accounting for

#

and then crit damage

north sedge
#

only crushers are an issue for hammer

#

and even then

hollow ember
#

though tbh nothing beats the satisfying pop of the T-hammer special attack

spare talon
hollow ember
#

god damn everytime glazorr hit a mutant in the face with that special attack it felt so satisfying haha

indigo quartz
#

why would i use a less flexible tool than a shovel

#

let alone ogyrn shovel

spare talon
#

parry exists

indigo quartz
#

like at least we have some good options

#

yeah dclaw feels great

north sedge
#

well, when zealot can use ogryn shovel let us know

indigo quartz
#

not my cup of tea for extended play

hollow ember
sharp zodiac
#

Zel with vet mk3 shovel would be silly

#

Even if it made no sense

fading vale
indigo quartz
#

iron helm has even more of the issues

hollow ember
#

I am trying to find a good one currently to test, might save me some currency

indigo quartz
#

without getting into longwinded math-stuff, number not good enough

north sedge
#

it does 25% less special dmg so you have a harder time with some of the beef boys

indigo quartz
#

even disregarding ogyrn's overal overtunedness, veteran shovel does the same niche but better

sharp zodiac
#

But the cleave on special heavy swings is nice

native stump
#

ok so keeping dumdum but what should i change for blessing?

sharp zodiac
#

Honestly the blessings are fine

sharp zodiac
#

Sprint eff can be changed however

native stump
#

yeah

distant lark
#

blablabla

native stump
#

gonna swap to maniac

sharp zodiac
#

Good idea

spare talon
#

trust

native stump
#

at most i can increase fire frency to 4

#

since i dont have dumdum4

#

or should i switch it to something else?

#

i hear raking fire is good but im not 100% certain

fading vale
#

raking is solid

#

FF will only build stacks within 8m so, kind of your preference

visual stream
spare talon
#

better take out the largest numbers first before they overwhem you

native stump
#

hmm... i guess i can try to use raking

#

since it's more consistent

jovial cradle
#

what is the good word of the stan?

grave glade
#

HAMMAR

sharp zodiac
grave glade
#

HEHE B O N K

visual stream
torn flame
#

I wonder how it would feel if we gave the Zealot some holy brass knuckles

indigo quartz
#

i'd literally only use that weapon

dense field
#

Imagine VR slide dodging

torn flame
#

Imagine you focus on getting nothing but stagger perks on that thing, so you stun lock everything

zealous basin
#

it should be illegal for cats to have socks

#

why on earth would a cat ever need socks??

dense field
#

fun fact: you can stun a rager with a punch (knife special attack) if you pick +50% stagger on weak spot hit talent

dense field
#

yes

#

I'd die immediately from this

zealous basin
visual stream
zealous basin
#

but the beans dont even get the soccs

#

they just poke through

visual stream
#

L socks then

sharp zodiac
#

Uni does not look like a real creature sometimes

zealous basin
#

idk who uni is thats big boobs

sharp zodiac
#

Right

#

My error

#

I keep getting this fucking liver king guy on my twitter as an ad who is this oversized dwarf

zealous basin
#

all natty dude

open pollen
#

Got to have a photo-op with a Bulwark.

#

Poor thing got stuck in the wall. Hilarious.

sharp zodiac
#

Gyatt

open pollen
#

God I love ragdolls

sharp zodiac
#

Bro has accepted the Lord as his savior

jovial cradle
maiden path
#

HONK mimimimimimi

spare talon
#

this energy from that groaner

sharp zodiac
#

He really do be groaning now

#

Burrrr

spare talon
#

hourly armory is starting to rarely miss nowadays

coarse birch
sharp zodiac
#

.. yeah

kind bay
#

what makes zealot good, thinking about starting a new character after playing veteran

fading vale
coarse birch
#

steve groans are far more acceptable

fading vale
queen ferry
#

Sorry to be a bother, but is this a good pick up?

coarse birch
#

it can be made ok

queen ferry
#

From Melk

fading vale
#

not really, don't want either blessing or weak spot, but it can be a 3 out of 4 if you replace both blessings

queen ferry
#

I don't know anything about heavy swords at all

coarse birch
#

id swap the blessings

#

and its like usable

#

base maniac damage is really good so you dont NEED it

#

but its still good

#

you wanna swap to headtaker/deathblow

fading vale
#

I wouldn't spend melk bucks if you don't have excess to spend, plus you may not have the other blessings you want yet

placid salmon
#

is stealth thunder hammer a thing

coarse birch
#

yeah but its a bit of a meme

#

really just for funny boss bonk

fading vale
#

yeah basically just for big funny boss hits

coarse birch
#

but its probably only getting you one less hit to kill

#

and your giving up everything else

placid salmon
#

good for the twins maybe? ๐Ÿค”

coarse birch
#

honestly i like chastise for the twins for all the ads that show up

queen ferry
#

I loved running the bonk hammer for the sole purpose of just demolishing bosses

coarse birch
#

and then also the boss damage

#

cant stealth brauto a bunch of ragers/maulers

fading vale
#

it could be, also stealth in general is just helpful for twins to pick people up

coarse birch
#

yeah it would help with revives

shy river
#

chorus was big for my twins kills

fading vale
#

my ass got carried by Josho running stealth caxe my first twins game

#

I had no idea what was going on and kept standing in poison lol

coarse birch
#

wait josho said he didnt play caxe

#

he lied to me in VC

#

unbelievable

fading vale
#

I think he was just trying to brainless carry that game

coarse birch
#

ah

#

i tried it with randos non stop for days

#

before i eventually caved and did it with josho and arco

#

and we got it first try lol

fading vale
#

isn't it nice playing with people that have more than 2 braincells

coarse birch
#

it is so great

royal vortex
#

we also did it with @frank night im p sure

coarse birch
#

thats who it was

#

i forgot who the last was

royal vortex
#

i play caxe for twins hard mode because u will not make me use a chain weapon

fading vale
#

often turns into a kill stealing contest, very fun

kind bay
#

what are the strongest zealot builds, i heard something like thunder hammer idk

coarse birch
#

yeah i yelled at josho earlier cause he kept killing shit right before my throwing knife connected

#

just like

#

4 in a row

fading vale
#

don't forget intentionally blowing eachother up with barrels

north sedge
#

i will force nosho to play chain weapon

coarse birch
#

nosho

royal vortex
#

nosho