#zealot-class

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spare talon
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pov: heresy maelstrom

ripe quest
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It's 1 point of health to 1% cdr iirc

shy osprey
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WHY ARE THERE SO MANY BARS

ripe quest
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Not particularly grand but it's not the worst thing in the world. It's next to the +2 wounds node though so there isn't a reason to pick it up.

stoic thistle
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Why can't they stun

spare talon
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@stoic thistle

bleak sierra
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Yippee

shy osprey
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huge w

stoic thistle
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I tried my shitty build 2day on a high intensity maelstorm and it was tanky asf

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Got carried for 40 mins but only downed once

shy osprey
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bro

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damnation twins seem so easy

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but then

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everyone dies

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: (

ionic nymph
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I got grabbed out the ship through the ships wall by a mutie today

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It ran beside it and grabbed me out

rocky marsh
ionic nymph
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Not yet

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I got grabbed and put through a locked gate that covers a different run of the same map by a mutie

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So had to kill myself to get out

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I need thrust 4 for my hammer

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I got momentum 1-4

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I also got rampage 4 and savage 4 on a evis

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good evis

spare talon
spare talon
ripe quest
spare talon
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god this sucks
i have so much money and plasteel and i wanna actually spend some of it, its burning a hole in my digital pocket
but theres nothing i want

zealous basin
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have u considered touching grass

spare talon
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what rolls can i get on that

zealous basin
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+1 bitches +1 drinking problem

polar nexus
spare talon
zealous basin
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thats why u develop a drinking problem 1st

zealous basin
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stop man

ripe quest
zealous basin
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he aint wrong

ripe quest
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man

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Not even peak potential.

polar nexus
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You want a rail gun

spare talon
# ripe quest On a Kant?

it goes with my flesh tearer knife if i hate myself enough, since im already running piety with it

ripe quest
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It has lower finesse values than the other two, and flechette doesn't work right with the special shot

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Just like run a Lawby w/ it

spare talon
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i know it works better with the lawbringer

zealous basin
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lmao ur shotgun sucks

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noob

zealous basin
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u dont know who i am?

ripe quest
# spare talon

haha you stole the cut version instead of the full one

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L

spare talon
ripe quest
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Full one is funnier.

zealous basin
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X

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cutting things makes them funnier 100% of the time (i am an editor by trade)

ripe quest
polar nexus
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Do you have a lacerate flesh tearer blade?

spare talon
zealous basin
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erm

ripe quest
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@fading vale I have no clue if you watch anime or read manga but the story of the bleed knife stuff lines up almost 1:1 with the main plot of To Your Eternity I recommend looking at it.

ripe quest
zealous basin
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wanna see me freak it

ripe quest
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It's not even funny meme

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It's just annoying

polar nexus
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That manga is bittersweet af

ripe quest
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Flechette has an anti-synergy with it

spare talon
median steeple
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Use the bad one for no reason other than fuck it we ball

ripe quest
spare talon
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i assume its the standard flakiac

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havent built a lawbringer

spare talon
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just a little under 2k plasteel spent

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still a lot there

muted vale
bitter anvil
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I had like 25k diamantine and 1k plasteel

ember yew
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Players: please remove diamantine, this currency is useless
Fatshark: increased diamantine prices x4

bitter anvil
ivory verge
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slaughterer or headtaker for hammer?

woeful oyster
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Ht

fading vale
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either are good

worldly belfry
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Is the best evis just personal pref or is there a clear winner

sterile schooner
worldly belfry
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i figured the opposite would be true since the mk15 has the wide sweeping lights

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i leveled with mk2 and loved it will probalby just god roll one of those first

north sedge
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Dmg cap of 4 on lights

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Targets

worldly belfry
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ew

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is that the case with mk2 as well

north sedge
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It's still no slouch on clearing

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For lights yes

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But mk2 heavies are for crowds so

worldly belfry
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does that remain true with clean talents

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cleave

north sedge
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Yes

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Which gives you more options on mk15 since extra cleave is necessary

zealous basin
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guys

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ah nvm

fading vale
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I would not say mk2 is "much better at horde clear"

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it can clear faster if you use optimal combo

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but not much faster

fading vale
zealous basin
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omg steve hiiiiii

woeful oyster
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from full health

worldly belfry
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what do with this

woeful oyster
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sell it

worldly belfry
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whats the go to blessings

woeful oyster
fading vale
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and you kill them too fast for headtaker to be meaningful anyways

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headtaker on bosses has always been a moot point

woeful oyster
woeful oyster
fading vale
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what extra damage, are you just killing it slower to try and stack headtaker

woeful oyster
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The second swing and any other consecutive hits up to five get bigger.

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regardless of target within the window

ripe quest
fading vale
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and it takes maybe 3 hits max to kill anything

ripe quest
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oop sorry didn't mean to reply

fading vale
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maybe 4 or 5 on plogryn depending

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but you can certainly 3 shot it fairly reliably

woeful oyster
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I don't pick up the hammer to spec it for killing trash faster.

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which is what slaughterer is better for

fading vale
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yeah, the biggest hit you can get on a boss is uh, oh max slaughterer

woeful oyster
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IF the trash is present

fading vale
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and if it's not the monstrosity has already been murdered

woeful oyster
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and that "IF" is too expensive for me

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so I take the consistent promise of Ht

fading vale
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I'm not saying headtaker is bad, just that it's strength is not bosses

woeful oyster
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Yes it is

fading vale
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it's just easier to stack quickly

woeful oyster
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But whateves

ember yew
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against a single target boss you won't get any slaughter stacks and that happens often, headtaker, while weaker, is more consistent and reliable

woeful oyster
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TY

ember yew
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but nothing wrong going slaughter either, all goes to personal preferences

fading vale
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as I said, headtaker isn't going to make a difference on bosses

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why are you hitting them a million times

woeful oyster
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dude

ember yew
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cuz im using rashad mk2

fading vale
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hit head and use chastise and they die

ember yew
woeful oyster
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@fading vale you actually said this "as I said, headtaker isn't going to make a difference on bosses"

fading vale
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yes I did

woeful oyster
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If you're cool with being wrong that's fine

fading vale
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what, is the 10% damage on third hit gonna make a difference? nope

woeful oyster
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On hammer swings that percentage goes a long way

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and considering

fading vale
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it does not but sure

woeful oyster
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everytime you swing and hit, you get the benefit.

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so

ember yew
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so in the end everyone are free to use whatever

fading vale
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hammer with thrust and unyielding is going to demolish bosses before a small damage boost means something, and you can also often start boss fights with max slaughterer or max headtaker anyways

ripe quest
# woeful oyster On hammer swings that percentage goes a long way

I think it'd be better to list the benfits of Headtaker vs. Slaught with other types of enemies. A Thrust +Unyielding Crucis will 4 shot a Plague Ogryn raw and you can go to 3-2 hits depending on keystone and if you're ulting. The impact of HT and Slaught aren't super apparent with boss damage.

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esp with like, monstrous specials you can 1 shot mini-bosses raw

fading vale
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bosses are not the argument for headtaker, it's faster to stack and easier to maintain in general

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and tbh slaughterer doesn't really give you many breakpoints anyways except for some 1 shot lights

woeful oyster
ripe quest
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I mean if you're serious about boss damage you just bring a Crucis w/ +Unyielding and Thrust tbf

fading vale
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ok you have just invalidated your entire argument

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thanks for that

ember yew
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so the discussion is going in circles rn, just take the godroll if it happens

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people are still using perfect strike and savage sweep on weapons (both at once)

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god helps pugs

fading vale
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I've only rolled a usable ht4 once somehow

woeful oyster
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No the absolute most serious boss damage Thammer is this one right here. Period. End of story.

polar nexus
ripe quest
ember yew
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im using these two

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if i feel like it

ripe quest
woeful oyster
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Bro

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are you even a zealot

ember yew
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fatshark should made crit damage like they did in vt2

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then it would be good

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and buff it x2 to 20%

ripe quest
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What an odd question

fading vale
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if only any of these 550s were as good as the 540

ripe quest
ember yew
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to give one to everyone

woeful oyster
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Even if it maths out bad like fatshark intended- for the absolute biggest single hit exclusively on bosses-unyielding+thrust+crit damage is the highest it can go without considering the modifiers

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with 100% crit chance from fury

fading vale
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I mean it's maybe a 2% damage increase, if that

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but it is technically higher damage

ember yew
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bless fs damage formulas

woeful oyster
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biggest hit doesn't care

fading vale
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by that logic you should have weakspot instead

next crow
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wouldn't the highest damage be a weakspot crit with that shroud node that increases CD

fading vale
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well, yes shroud is highest single hit

polar nexus
woeful oyster
fading vale
left iron
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Weird logic considering we're only looking at the highest damage

ripe quest
woeful oyster
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I mean, show me the one you have that hits harder than mine and I'll bow

next crow
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ok i have a question about thammer - how do i deal with everything that's not bosses

fading vale
spiral anvil
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You uh, use a gun

ember yew
fading vale
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and also using something like brauto/shotgun/revolver helps fill the gaps

polar nexus
ripe quest
woeful oyster
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U can take slaughterer if ya want, but when you go to swing and hit a boss and look down with no stacks, You think of me looking at you like this..

spiral anvil
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Is headtaker available on Thammers

ripe quest
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It is.

woeful oyster
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There I showed you

ripe quest
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At this point you're trolling lmao

polar nexus
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I wonder if with martyrdom you can just keep thrust and add another blessing

ripe quest
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You can use Martyr to just 1 shot bosses

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but the main benefit of HT/Slaught is the non-boss related stuff

polar nexus
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I was thinking about the horde

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How many martyr stacks do you need to reach the same interesting BP as HT or slaughterer

spiral anvil
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Iirc you need like 3 slaughterer to start one shotting bruisers

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Depends on your roll etcetc

polar nexus
spiral anvil
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But that's lights

hollow walrus
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what do you think they're whispering about

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i assume the zealot is trying to turn the host

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he's probably reciting to it

spiral anvil
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That's a really cool spawn

median steeple
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Happens way too often in my experience

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But at least you have someone to talk to

proven thicket
# hollow walrus what do you think they're whispering about

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▶ Play video
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"buzz buzz buzz buzz buz..."

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what's the stat priority for the eviscerators?

ripe quest
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Probs would be like Damage & Pen > Shredder > Mobility

proven thicket
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and the mk II?

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does cleave get more prio on that?

ripe quest
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Same deal but Cleave Targets is like, shredder tier.

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important n whatnot

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Helps a ton with the H1

proven thicket
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mkay

muted vale
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was thinking about my main zealto build, any ideas? using heavy evis and panic button (bolter xD) rn
also was thinking about crit vs momentum keystone

cinder roost
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Thoughts?

fading vale
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very good, not a huge carapace fan anymore but cara isnt terrible or anything

cinder roost
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its an old weapon i found in my endless pile of forgotten weapons

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cant decide between headtaker and slaught

fading vale
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you probably wont notice much difference between them

bleak apex
rigid trellis
frank night
molten crag
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I gots a question about how are the modifiers are calculated to make a 380.
Is it different per the weapon?
Like how these shot guns not 380 but this chain sword is?
I don’t hunt for them but it’s just got me curious.

next crow
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I think you just add up all 5 numbers and that gives you the rating

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although I think there may be some kind of decimal/rounding/display error

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cuz the first shotty should be 374 instead of 373...

molten crag
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For real? Why didn’t I think of that… that makes total sense.

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Ty

muted vale
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i think there is always 1 as base number, at least every weapon i counted is like that

slate notch
cinder roost
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yes

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mod

slate notch
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Is it on the mod's discord or nexus?

cinder roost
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YES

cinder roost
muted vale
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last few games i had book... feels like complete waste of talents for QP

calm veldt
sterile stone
steep flame
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when are we gonna get a dadao sword

true kindle
copper hawk
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Obamna

humble wasp
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what are best blessings on revolver?

frozen glen
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surgical handcannon

copper hawk
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Changdao or bust

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Miaodao or bust

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長刀 my beloved..

proven thicket
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does having carapce on the fan the hammer revolver even let you meet any new breakpoints?

hollow mantle
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means you probably just need 1 crit to kill a crusher I think. I could test it actually I have a few

polar nexus
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all right

hollow mantle
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assuming annoint in blood an handcannon

proven thicket
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mine just barely hits 600 on crit headshot on a crusher

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hm

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well

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another question then: is the zealot weapon table pinned here outdated?

hollow mantle
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youll want handcannon

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should double those crits

proven thicket
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cuz it suggests crucian and trickshooter for agri

hollow mantle
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crucian handcannon

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will be a lot more reliable

steep flame
hollow mantle
proven thicket
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mkay then

dense field
hollow mantle
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its rare that this wont kill a crusher each reload

dense field
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Crucian is not that good IMO

proven thicket
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so maybe hand cannon trickshooter?

copper hawk
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trickshooter handcannon

hollow mantle
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id swap trickshooter there for handcannon

dense field
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good luck hitting these weak spots with agri

copper hawk
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surgical handcannon

hollow mantle
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if you are up close with a fury of the faithful build its pretty common

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its a nice quick swap to kill the armored unit in your face or burst down a boss

dense field
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Yeah it's surgical or point blank

hollow mantle
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I tried pointblack for awhile

copper hawk
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old revolver is the better of the two

hollow mantle
dense field
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I agree

hollow mantle
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but 2.5 seconds is just a bit too short

copper hawk
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it's rlly busted

hollow mantle
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if it was 3.5 it would be better

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yeah old revolver is a lot better overall

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if new revolver had the same cleave or like, 3 cleave, it would be a big difference

proven thicket
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it would make the old one obsolete

hollow mantle
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but new revolver will kill bosses quicker and if you are building for a clutch it makes a difference over old revolver

proven thicket
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new one can throw rounds down range faster

hollow mantle
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thats probably the only scenario its better

proven thicket
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kinda like a pocket bolter

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and with more reserve ammo

hollow mantle
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yeah

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though if you are running throwing knives then bolter isn't too different

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its like in the middle then

polar nexus
proven thicket
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it draws faster than bolter too ofc

hollow mantle
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long reload but with the mag dump of the agri

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and fast pulltime with knife trick

proven thicket
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IF you're using blades ofc

hollow mantle
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yeah

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Its all I run anymore. I like the talents a lot more and the knives just add a lot of all the time kill potential

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just got to get used to hitting headshots

obtuse stirrup
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What does a good kantrael shotgun look like for stealth knife zealot?

hollow mantle
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There two paths for it I think. you can run fullbore and no respite to hit 1 shot headshot breakpoints

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or you can use it for cc/horde clear

proven thicket
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this is just saddening

hollow mantle
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which I have been liking scattershot and flechette for that

hollow mantle
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😭

obtuse stirrup
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I mean I'm enjoying the meme of knife zealot being just running off and stabbing the things I wanna breakpoint in the back of the head

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so it's probably a horde clearer

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furthermore

proven thicket
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let us swap diamantine for plasteel ffs

obtuse stirrup
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for knife zealot, is it better to go blazing piety or momentum?

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I feel like out of stealth you don't backstab reliably, but when you're going special hunting you're often losing blazing piety

hollow mantle
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If you want a meme build for knife zealot with throwing knives run scattershot manstopper

copper hawk
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chainsword

obtuse stirrup
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but blazing piety gets you your stealth back sooner generally

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oh, just pogged

hollow mantle
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if you do that meme build you can get your blazing piety up in a couple of knives but it needs targets

frozen ibex
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Totally not me I didn't rush at all whatthefuck_heresy

obtuse stirrup
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I had a purple kantrael sitting around

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hadron turned it into this

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I guess I have a breakpoint shotgun ready out of the box lol

hollow mantle
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oh there you go

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I like keeping unyielding on it

obtuse stirrup
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it'll still horde clear well right

hollow mantle
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so in a pinch you can burn bosses

obtuse stirrup
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just not as well as a manstopper

hollow mantle
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oh yeah

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it will probably clear any amount of horde in 2 special shots

obtuse stirrup
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probably better to lean more on that side yeah

hollow mantle
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anything in a line that gets 2 dots on it should die if its trash

obtuse stirrup
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what would you change on it then?

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Infested to maniac or flak?

hollow mantle
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infested to maniac probably or flak

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yeah

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the bleed stack scatter shot is better for a fury build

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because you can put down a couple dots and it will clear whatever you were stacking after a charge and a few normal shots

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and will kill crushers reliably well too with a charge

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not so much with knife stealth, but your knife should do that well enough if you are running uncanny

obtuse stirrup
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I figure it'll be more versatile than a flamer at least, in either case

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Flamer works well for knife stealth

mossy scarab
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I love looking at zelchat in the morning and seeing knife zealot

obtuse stirrup
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but

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I hate it lol

hollow mantle
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oh yeah, idk

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I dont think flamer is great without fury

obtuse stirrup
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it's servicable

hollow mantle
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heres some bullshit you can do with man-stopper and scatter shot

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but it rarely matters in an actual match

obtuse stirrup
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it's not a carry weapon, it just covers a weakness

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if kantrael shotgun can do the same thing I'll just feel it's a lot more enjoyable to play

hollow mantle
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For sure. I think that weakness is covered better by this yeah

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exactly

muted vale
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seems good for the future possible use? .)

hollow mantle
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Yeah and if nothing else its a good candidate for getting a high tier blessing

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I think defence is the dumpstat you want over crowd control but the stat variance on crowd control isnt very significant either

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the three important stats are all high

muted vale
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ok, ty

obtuse stirrup
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I think elite damage isn't the worst too right?

hollow mantle
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The nice thing too about the kantreals special shot is it pretty reliably staggers/suppresses almost every enemy other than a rager mid swing or a crusher doing its thing.

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so its a nice option to pull out and throw down towards a bomber or trapper that just showed up

obtuse stirrup
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Lets me go in for a couple of knife swings and make a breakout to go for more specials or elites

hollow mantle
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you wont kill it with one dot but you will stop it from doing its bullshit

obtuse stirrup
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btw, 6 second shroudfield or bigger damage stealth break but only 3s and longer CD?

hollow mantle
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6 seconds

obtuse stirrup
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I feel like the longer CD is a killer

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yeah

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You do enough damage anyway

hollow mantle
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much easier to pick people up with it

obtuse stirrup
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and you can follow up stab for more damage

mossy scarab
hollow mantle
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and really thats the prime benefit with a knife build. your safety and the extra 3 seconds is huge for that

obtuse stirrup
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stealth's a positioning power, not a damage power

hollow mantle
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yeah

obtuse stirrup
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if you want damage go charge

hollow mantle
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gives you a lot of breathing room to pull off rez's

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There is a knife build I have been tinkering with that has like 90% ult uptime but its risky

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no holy revenant

obtuse stirrup
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I'm already no holy revenant lol

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it's too many points out of my way

hollow mantle
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oh you are probably doing it anyway then

mossy scarab
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Holy Rev is good, I take it on every build but it's not the holy grail of zealot skills. You don't need it

hollow mantle
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yeah

obtuse stirrup
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since the healing on it got massively nerfed

hollow mantle
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if its that or thy wrath be swift

obtuse stirrup
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I feel like it almost does nothing

hollow mantle
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its thy wrath be swift every time

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oh

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I meant until death

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got my names mixed up

mossy scarab
obtuse stirrup
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I mean it protects you from chip damage a little at least but most of the time on damnation chip damage is still like half your hp if it's properly through your toughness

hollow mantle
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the idea being you go full right side until blazing piety

obtuse stirrup
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never done martyrdom

hollow mantle
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so you can get both ult cd's

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like 2 seconds of knife lights and your ult is back

obtuse stirrup
hollow mantle
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really high potential but not having immortality can suck

obtuse stirrup
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shroudfield is immortality

hollow mantle
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Generally though after a certain point whats killing you is the disabler you didn't avoid

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and the immortality wouldn't save you there anyway

mossy scarab
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Bleed, martyrdom, and holy Rev make for a very tanky and hard to kill zealot. But I wouldn't recommend spending all your time on deaths door like most martyr zealots tend to do

hollow mantle
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yeah

obtuse stirrup
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Blazing piety is just so good

hollow mantle
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when your shroudfield is coming back that quickly too it becomes a combat ult

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where the toughness regen and damage reduction has 100% uptime in fights

obtuse stirrup
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My main build is a double charge with heavy sword + revolver thing with blazing piety

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the moment you lose any toughness, BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR and then you're back to 2 charges again in about 5 seconds

hollow mantle
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yeah thats super good

obtuse stirrup
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I feel like I'm a bad team player for not going prayer

mossy scarab
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Blazing piety is better for Chastise builds imo. More attack speed with high cleave weapons will get your chastise back in seconds. Or instantly. I've had it not even go on cooldown a few times

hollow mantle
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you can farm back your ult with the heavy sword cleave in a swing or two with something like deathblow on it

obtuse stirrup
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but on the other hand free toughness goes brrrrrr

hollow mantle
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and hitting a high density spot

obtuse stirrup
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and that fast recharge favours double charges really well

hollow mantle
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that with the damage reduction on crit talent and fury giving you half toughness and its tanky as shit

obtuse stirrup
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it's like the perfected version of pre-talent trees zealot

hollow mantle
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toughness from dodging ontop of it and you wont die in fights unless you get locked down with a disable

obtuse stirrup
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crit zealot with the double charge

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the forbidden combo

hollow mantle
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yeah

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I run that a lot as well

obtuse stirrup
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yeah, my usual flow with the build is slaughter slaughter slaughter revive somebody slaughter slaughter slaughter get hit by a net team dies immediately

mossy scarab
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I play chastise crit with evi because the beat stealth is making sure there's so much blood and gore in the air that the enemy can't see you through it

obtuse stirrup
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I suck with evis

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I wanna get good with it

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XV or II better?

hollow mantle
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not having nades makes getting safe rez's a bit more precarious. You have to fight to make room to get people up sometimes

obtuse stirrup
#

and what weapons work with the prayer ult? I want one build at least that uses them

humble wasp
#

Thunder hammer bonk is more fun than Evi

hollow ember
#

XV for me all the way, and to improve with it u need to know the breakpoint with specials and utilize the long range

mossy scarab
#

I use II because it's more well rounded, but XV hits single targets way harder

#

I may have that backwards

hollow mantle
#

I haven't ever gotten good with the eviscerator either. Spent too much time with heavy sword and getting used to the rhythm of it

obtuse stirrup
#

XV lets you do a wide revved heavy attack right?

#

which doesn't catch

#

I like the idea of the feel of that at least

hollow ember
#

these are the attack patterns with XV

mossy scarab
#

The most effective tech with the evi us PA>H1, repeat. But honestly, light spam gets the job done in hordes

hollow mantle
#

heavy sword feels faster to move around with while fighting. I get hung up on evis feeling like its making me slow. Just a different rhythm

hollow ember
#

I light spam most things except stuff with big hp like maulers,ragers,crushers,reapers,etc

#

light spam kills most things

#

but again ragers and maulers i like to utilize the long reach and use special attack when I am far away

obtuse stirrup
#

Frenetic zealot is the best so yeah, heavy sword feels great

#

it's just not very 40k

hollow ember
#

so I hit them and 0 chance to get hit back

#

like the long reach of XV is it's strongest point

humble wasp
#

I don't get heavy swords. Every time I tried it I was disappointed

mossy scarab
#

I also pair the XV with a revolver. Revolver is the zealot ranged weapon of choice imo. The Zarona. It hits hard, draws instantly, great for snap shooting a sniper or bomber.

hollow ember
#

with maulers u 1 shot them but on the flak armor part meaning no head hits and with crushers u can use bloodthirster and delete all crushers or u can use chastise while doing the special attack and one shot them

#

and the rest u one shot

hollow mantle
obtuse stirrup
#

Zarona is just god. Best feeling weapon in the game. Doesn't care how many things are between you and the target.

#

The moments when you fire a shot at what looks like a shotgunner's head

#

and it cleaves like 10 of them

#

and your kill feed just vomits at you

hollow mantle
#

This will oneshot mutants with no buffs active

obtuse stirrup
#

I'm still using a headtaker/rampage one

#

it works just fine too, but I think deathblow is preferred over headtaker now

mossy scarab
#

I love aiming at a special with the zarona and seeing 4 enemies I didn't even know where behind my target also die

hollow mantle
#

rampage/deathblow are interchangable I think

obtuse stirrup
#

it's like flatter high damage or higher damage to first target I guess

hollow mantle
#

yeah

#

not sure if you will hit that mutant breakpoint without it. Which isn't the end of the world, but man its nice to play matador like that

obtuse stirrup
#

but yeah, heavy sword is heavily blessing/perk reliant

hollow mantle
#

and deathblow will let you delete absolutely everything infront of you with a charge heavy2/3

obtuse stirrup
#

I one-shot mutants on crit at least

hollow mantle
#

instant ult back

obtuse stirrup
#

I think on hit too

#

if I get the head

#

horizontal heavies kill on crit too

mossy scarab
#

I've known for over a year that a mutant will win in a chastise fight. I still do it

hollow mantle
#

yeah you gotta get a headshot to do the no buff 1 shot

obtuse stirrup
#

Only weakness is carapace and bosses and they're not really weaknesses, just not strengths

#

everything else you mulch

hollow mantle
#

its kind of a tight breakpoint too

#

the sword I linked before will do it

#

but this is 41 damage off

#

okay yeah deathblow is needed

obtuse stirrup
#

remember when everyone was raving about the thunder hammer being able to one-shot a mutant with a charged up chastise heavy

hollow mantle
#

this is a few hundred damage off

obtuse stirrup
#

and we're just casually decapitating them with heavy swords

hollow mantle
#

I call it my mutant slapping stick

humble wasp
hollow mantle
#

when I take it into wave of mutant maelstroms

hollow mantle
#

just makes the pairing such a good all around build for any zealot hopping into quickplay

mossy scarab
#

Ironhelm is weak. Real zealots use crucis.

humble wasp
mossy scarab
#

I've never had an issue with hordes with the crucis

#

The ironhelm doesn't handle hordes any better than the crucis, it's only strength is the ability to hit specials through the hordes, not handle the hordes themselves

humble wasp
#

Charged heavy through horde is pretty decent.

mossy scarab
#

Unless I'm mistaken, the special does no extra damage to trash.

#

It only discharges on a special or elite

hollow ember
#

it's my fav weapon so far, trying to find a good ironhelm next but yea trying to be patient with that cursed shop

hollow mantle
#

it definitely does extra damage to trash

#

just tested it

#

quite a bit extra

fading vale
hollow mantle
mossy scarab
#

Been a while since I played with the ironhelm so I wasn't sure. I recall being unimpressed when I tested it way back when

humble wasp
hollow mantle
#

yeah cleaves better. But thats the metric really when you are talking about trash and hordes

fading vale
#

no it does good bit more damage to the first few trash mobs

open echo
#

melk also has this

hollow ember
#

so sometime u have to dodge back an enemy attack mid special and lose that last tick huge dmg

fading vale
#

at least you can dodge out of it now

hollow mantle
#

yeah, so much of maelstrom madness is constant movement

fading vale
#

and it kills things now

hollow mantle
#

responding to threats right away and getting the most out of every swing

placid fiber
#

So... basically how you should be playing anyway on damnation? lol

humble wasp
#

Playing with thunder hammer is so weird sometimes. I play without Chastise, so when I start windup the heavy and enemies are too far I turn sideways and side dodge towards enemies. A crab hammer charge!

fading vale
#

yeah crab walking is pretty common

#

for hammer special

placid fiber
#

I get it's way more intense, but, you should respond to threats asap and get the most out of your actions during fights otherwise you can get chunked/kills

hollow mantle
#

Oh sure, I just mean that theres rarely a time when you aren't dodging. so for any of the chain weapons the idea of sticking in a spot or having to keep my weapon on an enemy for more than a moment feels rough

#

they are fucking cool

mossy scarab
#

Nothing iritates me more than the vet/bb psyker ignoring the sniper that has our team pinned down

hollow mantle
#

but I just haven't ever enjoyed them whenever I give them a shot

placid fiber
#

It is extremely taxing playing at that level of skill, while fully panicked

hollow mantle
#

The panic goes away with enough time playing. or it did for me at least

open echo
hollow ember
hollow mantle
#

But I feel you. I had that bad when I got into these games

placid fiber
hollow ember
placid fiber
#

that's why I call myself a panic gamer

mossy scarab
#

Pretty sure if the panic was going to wear off for Pill, it would have by now.

hollow mantle
#

Oh definitely. When you know exactly what you need to do but realize that the pressures on and you dont want to fuck up and look bad or let the team down or mess up the clutch

hollow mantle
#

Thats more the panic I mean

hollow ember
#

V7, revovler and column all deal with specialist pretty smoothly though with column depending on how far

#

I love all those 3 with my heavy evis

fading vale
#

I just run at snipers provided I don't have a revolver or shotgun and it's not an unreachable one

hollow mantle
#

Now the clutch is just a fun adrenaline surge. But it took time to get comfortable with that

humble wasp
hollow mantle
#

Nah, just start enjoying games with new people more often

fading vale
#

clutching is fun except when you have to stay alive solo for 5-10 minutes like 4 games in a row

hollow mantle
#

so you get harder games xD

placid fiber
humble wasp
hollow ember
fading vale
#

I'm just not interested in carrying idiots that die constantly every single game

mossy scarab
#

Clutching feels good. The heart palpitations after, not so much

hollow mantle
#

Thats what I live for when playing this game. When you get a two other people in a match who are competent it can just become a cake walk

fading vale
#

the whole damn team doesn't need to wipe over and over though

placid fiber
hollow mantle
#

true enough

#

its much more fun when they are appreciative of your hard work too

#

or if they are all constantly leaving it can be a drag

#

I just want them to be stuck in my game and forced to watch me clutch goddamnit

humble wasp
#

I had a damnation run today where I felt like Emperor.

hollow mantle
#

my prisoners

fading vale
#

had one where everyone was wiping and the 4th slot cycled through like 4 players until I finally got lucky enough to have a buddy

placid fiber
hollow mantle
#

Its also great when you have a buddy yeah. 2 people holding down the fort keeping the new guys up or alive

#

pullin em through

humble wasp
#

Not WH40k Emperor, but Star Wars Emperor. Enemies couldn't kill me the normal way, I clutched the match several times saving the team and reviving them. And then enemies threw me down the reactor shaft.

placid fiber
#

It is a hell of a rush, and I probably get adrenaline as well during the more intense clutches... but that much of a rush is not good for your mind or body >.<'

hollow mantle
#

Reminds you you are alive

#

good for the soul

placid fiber
#

I don't need a reminder lol

mossy scarab
#

I still remember my entire team dying on the bridge in the train depot and soloing 2 hordes during a hi5 shock. And then 5 minutes later doing it again

placid fiber
#

my adhd is a reminder for me, every day x.x

mossy scarab
#

I died the second time because I ran out of ammo and I couldn't evis a crusher horde down solo very well

fading vale
#

SCRIMBOBIMBLER

copper hawk
#

WTF

#

I CAN USE STICKERZ NAOW

#

the world is healin..

fading vale
#

huh

copper hawk
placid fiber
#

Stickers?!

copper hawk
#

rain of Risk

placid fiber
#

I love that as a gif and sticker :3

copper hawk
#

erm

#

dat sticker

#

IZ A gif

#

u dormk !!

copper hawk
#

achtually..

copper hawk
#

itz an apng..

fading vale
copper hawk
#

here. this 1 iz 4 u

placid fiber
#

that drifter gif does show how quickly things do tend to go off track in any of the ror games lol

fading vale
#

ok we should probably not abuse stickers so they don't take them away lol

placid fiber
#

Yeah

mossy scarab
#

Abuse them UNTIL they take them away

placid fiber
#

One more, tho

mossy scarab
#

Wait, did we lose Skelly or did he just change his name again?

placid fiber
#

isn't skelly "felt skill"?

fading vale
#

FELT SKILL yeah

placid fiber
#

I can tell by the pfp <.<

mossy scarab
#

And the status too I'm now remembering

placid fiber
#

Btw being able to hammer game in rorr feels amazing, probably even more so than in darktide, Lazorr. :3

#

See a problem? Hammer it

frozen glen
placid fiber
#

Oh no, I am swarmed by elites? Hamma

frozen glen
#

holy shit sticker perms

indigo quartz
#

Oh sticker time ?

placid fiber
#

There's only 1 weird thing about HAN-D in ror1/rorr... it has a heal button, as you get kills. No character get a heal button in ror besides ror2 specific ones.

#

It's like having an option to just regenerate like 30hp any time you want to on zealot, as you get monster kills or something like that

jovial cradle
#

How’s the best class in the game doin today?

placid fiber
#

Cleansing the heretics, as always

sterile stone
jovial cradle
proven thicket
#

God-Emperor bless us, you mean? staregryn

jovial cradle
hushed knoll
#

SCARAB

hushed knoll
sterile stone
hushed knoll
#

I meant scarab

hushed knoll
jovial cradle
hushed knoll
#

What

grizzled tusk
#

what is order of importance of stats on Heavy Sword VII?

hushed knoll
#

I've never played Halo

grizzled tusk
#

Damage, First Target, Cleave Damage, Defenses, Cleave Targets - for reference

jovial cradle
#

Halo 2 is the worst in legendary tho

#

Cause it’s super long super hard

hushed knoll
#

That's ok thanks though, I don't really have an interest in Halo tbh

#

Is it co-op?

jovial cradle
#

Cartographer be like

jovial cradle
jovial cradle
#

Not the entire lore but some aspects of it

#

Halo has hope. Let’s put it that way

#

40k you hope its just chaos invading you

grizzled tusk
#

like, is that worth picking up?

mossy scarab
# grizzled tusk

Cara isn't good for HS, but the stats are good. Could gamble on it.

jovial cradle
#

Just hope you get a good role on the blessings and you’re gucci

#

I’d rather have a good blessing role and modify my perks how I want than the opposite

#

But that’s personal preferences for me since I don’t want to go through a whole ton of grindin

hollow mantle
#

Yeah those stats are great

rocky marsh
#

on wound build can is it bad to go down?
i figured if i have extra wounds might as well make use of it :p

#

also xD

hollow mantle
#

It's great if you are doing it intentionally and in a safe spot

#

Your team will be happy that you are giving yourself lots of HP all the time

frank night
grizzled tusk
#

but then you have to get damaged to get that 40% dmg 20% as... so dying doesn't really achieve anything?

indigo quartz
hollow mantle
#

Gets your hp back. The build isnt just good for maximizing the benefits. It also gives you a reason to run that many wounds so you benefit on both sides. more room to go into fights at higher hp, and then more benefit when you are lower

#

that being said I never run the keystone, but theres more to it than always having to be at low hp for it to make sense

hushed knoll
#

You don't even have Motrin in the UK

#

iirc

frank night
#

you did this Stan

copper hawk
#

stan

#

how do u know

hushed knoll
#

You decided to rename yourself

copper hawk
#

that ONE Thinge.

royal vortex
hushed knoll
#

I forced you to do nothing

copper hawk
#

how do u KNOWE

hushed knoll
copper hawk
#

that MOTRIN isn't available in BR*TAIN

hushed knoll
#

I just assume

copper hawk
#

r u spy ?

hushed knoll
#

Why are you censoring Britain

copper hawk
#

r u infiltrate ?

#

r u gumshoe sleuth ?

#

i onto u .

hushed knoll
#

If I was, why would I tell you

copper hawk
royal vortex
#

why

hushed knoll
#

Because

#

I feel like Brits have more British sounding over the counter medicines

#

Like "Tipps' throat-coat"

copper hawk
#

sounding over the counter medicines

#

do NOT

royal vortex
#

"throat coat"

#

why are you like this stan

copper hawk
#

throat coat

#

can i give u a throat hug stan

left iron
copper hawk
#

physically wounded me 2 say

hushed knoll
copper hawk
#

astaghfirullah the merciful will kill me

hushed knoll
#

I have throat coat in my house

copper hawk
#

do NOT google what i said stan

hushed knoll
frank night
#

mashallah may allah increase cica's suffering

hushed knoll
copper hawk
#

mashallah and may allah mean the

left iron
copper hawk
#

same thing

hushed knoll
#

Inshallah cica will be snuggled owo

copper hawk
#

u infidel

frank night
#

twice as nice

copper hawk
#

as ur punishment

hushed knoll
#

Spice

copper hawk
#

i cast spell: acute arterial thrombosis

hushed knoll
#

That's rude af

misty ravine
frank night
#

u cant cast shit MP pig

copper hawk
#

jsut did

#

i cast 9x19 parabellum

hushed knoll
copper hawk
#

like 17 of them

hushed knoll
#

Parabellum is a latin word

copper hawk
#

(u pulled out ur wallet it looked suspiciously like a gun i couldn't of known i had 2 to do what i had 2 do)

hushed knoll
#

What is this roleplay

copper hawk
#

this isn't roleplay stan

#

this is srs business

hushed knoll
#

What

copper hawk
#

i'm tired of u not takin this srsly

#

ur rlly strainin our relationship

#

ever since u met my mother in law u've not been the same

misty ravine
hushed knoll
#

You're the one who cheated on me with Javier

#

Don't act like this is my fault

copper hawk
#

motorized rollingham

#

shut the FUCK up stan

hushed knoll
copper hawk
#

MOTORIZED ROLLINGHAM

hushed knoll
#

What

#

Infidel? More like infidelity cuz u cheated on me

copper hawk
#

look

#

twenty dollars is twenty dollars

#

my lawyer has advised me not to speak any more on this topic

hushed knoll
#

you sloot 😠

fading vale
#

hi staniel

hushed knoll
#

Hi Laz chan

#

What's poppun

#

Pope

#

Poppin

left iron
copper hawk
#

Pope Poppin

fading vale
#

Pope

hushed knoll
#

ICE NO

copper hawk
#

u cant say that

wraith helm
#

The most productive zealot conversation

copper hawk
#

u cant make threatz on the pope like that

#

stanvid.

hushed knoll
#

I want to put ice on a frozen icicle and then blow a hairdryer at him

copper hawk
#

so troo cropped porn pfp

hushed knoll
copper hawk
#

spit yo shit indeed !!

left iron
#

Im taking notes of every threat you make against me

fading vale
#

I guess you can call me the pope if you want, I am a divine being after all

hushed knoll
#

You can't take notes

copper hawk
#

the old anime char who is actually a badass

hushed knoll
#

Heaven

left iron
hushed knoll
#

ICE

fading vale
#

wtf kind of hellish being wears gold pants

#

they are a gift from the God emperor

hushed knoll
#

The God emperor is merely a pompous zombie

hushed knoll
#

Mittins

#

I am going to make a hammock out of organic hemp

#

And then light it on fire

frank night
#

ok

hushed knoll
#

And you will be responsible

frank night
#

why

#

i am literally like

hushed knoll
#

That my artisinal craft is destroyed

frank night
#

multiple hundreds of miles away

#

from your self-immolation

hushed knoll
#

Sometimes those that guide fate with the hands of plucked leather will not look deeply into the threads that bind the ties that hold the feather

fading vale
#

what

hushed knoll
#

It's a metaphor

vocal pulsar
#

@south folio

fading vale
#

is this an original

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
fading vale
#

just wanted to make sure I can make fun of you for it

hushed knoll
#

Maknar

#

MANKAR

left iron
fading vale
#

MAKNAR

frank night
#

MAKNAR

tulip valve
#

MAKNAR

hushed knoll
copper hawk
#

Maknar the Red

hushed knoll
#

Laz

#

You need to look deeper

#

Go very deep

#

What do you think it means

fading vale
#

plucked leather

hushed knoll
#

It's obviosuly a reference to the OJ trial when the gloves shrank from the blood of the slain 😒

#

This is why you should have paid attention in English class

fading vale
#

obviously

misty ravine
#

If the glove does not fizzle you must acquizzle

hushed knoll
#

LMAO

#

I just spit out my metaphorical drink

fading vale
#

maybe if you were my sensei

hushed knoll
#

I'm your kouhai

left iron
fading vale
hushed knoll
#

Where is ur business card kouhai chan

#

Arigato

#

How am I doing

fading vale
hushed knoll
#

Wow I've never seen you Qatar that emote before

#

Use

mossy scarab
fading vale
#

who knows

hushed knoll
mossy scarab
#

That you need more drugs

fading vale
#

stan is simply a philosopher beyond our comprehension

hushed knoll
#

I'm actually very down to earth

#

I will soon release my sutoobiogaryy

#

Autobiography

mossy scarab
#

Biogary

fading vale
#

Isn't it funny how down to earth is sometimes a passive insult in the south

placid salmon
#

because everyone in the south is fucking insane

mossy scarab
#

The south should never be used as a basis of comparison

fading vale
#

they are trying to be all fake nice and then call your girlfriend or whatever down to earth

copper hawk
#

up to heaven

left iron
#

Sutoobiogaryy

mossy scarab
#

Jum Cantorpe's Sutoobiogarry

royal vortex
#

im down to ocean

hushed knoll
#

Oh

#

The ocean is the earth tho

#

What

#

Geography fail

royal vortex
#

it was a stupid joke

#

it's nonsense

fading vale
hushed knoll
#

Sorry Josho

royal vortex
#

you are not forgiven

hushed knoll
#

Juice

#

Jesus

royal vortex
fading vale
mossy scarab
#

Jesus's juice shoes

hushed knoll
#

Jesus probably didn't drink juice

fading vale
#

what is wine if not grape juice

fading vale
royal vortex
#

the what

fading vale
#

just another stanism that is overly sexual

royal vortex
fading vale
#

said it in voice

hushed knoll
#

I said that??

royal vortex
#

i dont wanna know

hushed knoll
#

We were talking about trying to get your trouser snake out of an underwear slot

#

That's all it was referencing

#

It wasn't sexual

royal vortex
#

stan

#

not in front of the kids

hushed knoll
left iron
fading vale
polar plover
#

thats me as a zealot trying to stay focused on elites :3

frank night
hushed knoll
#

Wtf

#

Look

#

There's nothing scary about it

jovial cradle
royal vortex
#

it's over

jovial cradle
#

The spiders?

clear knot
#

i caught it

fading vale
#

so how is palworld

fleet zealot
#

Fun

clear knot
#

im enjoying

hushed knoll
#

It’s plaguauruiti

#

Plagjeins

#

Plagiarism

#

Fuck this phone

#

Takes 3 tries for autocorrect to kick in

jovial cradle
spare dome
#

autocorrect is a markov chain program that has been trained to recognize the language patterns of trillions upon trillions of sentences and billions of people but even it cant deduce the inner workings of Stan

jovial cradle
spare dome
#

markov

jovial cradle
#

Palworld scares game freaks and it’s a good thing

#

No corpo should have the final say on something because people enable them to do so

fading vale
#

Bruh wth is this big change to reeses happening soon

jovial cradle
#

They gon remove the peanut butter?

north sedge
jovial cradle
hushed knoll
#

DOUGH HIIIIII

#

DOUGH DOUGH DOUGH

jovial cradle
#

@hushed knoll i like your funny words magic man

hushed knoll
fading vale
#

I just saw an ad and they are announcing some change to reeses during superbowl

jovial cradle
hushed knoll
#

The fuck

north sedge
hushed knoll
#

How can they change it

jovial cradle
hushed knoll
jovial cradle
fading vale
hushed knoll
#

They are now going to switch to organic nut butter

#

I am not a spider

#

I just stan spider toes

north sedge
jovial cradle
hushed knoll
# north sedge What

OH DOUGH you are an art person. What is your interpretation of what I said

fading vale
hushed knoll
#

No

north sedge
#

Nonsense

jovial cradle
hushed knoll