zealot-class

[fading vale]

but yeah if you are within like 3m of an enemy it gets disabled

[pale kelp]

((partly))

[ripe quest]

something something you have like slots around you that melee enemies will try to pathfind to and if there's an enemy in a slot you don't get coherency regen

[pale kelp]

if I am, or if anyone in coherency is?

[ripe quest]

You gotta be the target though

[tepid sorrel]

if you are

[south folio]

ohhhhh that's why it was so inconsistent

wow damn

[fading vale]

why this exists? nobody knows

[ripe quest]

iirc stealth will give you back coherency regen near enemies

Which is a goofy interaction

[south folio]

why couldn't it have been a simple "is enemy x distance near you" 🥲

[tepid sorrel]

because life isn't that simple

[pale kelp]

No one's aggro'd onto you IG

[fading vale]

TLDR game is goofy as fuck and if you want to know how shit works you have to ask here

[south folio]

shut up binch

[tepid sorrel]

there are valid reasons behind a lot of these things it's just too much to explain to randos

[tepid sorrel]

eat my left AND right nuts!!!!

[pale kelp]

:[

[ripe quest]

Btw Lazorr have you heard anything about Darktide's like, Overclocks for weapon stats? Just saw them in the weapon files and they've been there since launch.

[tepid sorrel]

please ignore any random shit you see in the game files that isnt used anywhere

from the bottom of my heart

[fading vale]

yeah they were planning a weapon overclock system for like, +damage and -defences

[ripe quest]

I know it's not ingame I'm just trying to learn about stuff

Mr. Party Pooper I know what I'm doing

[tepid sorrel]

no im telling you

from the bottom of my heart

just ignore it

[ripe quest]

That's about what I thought yeah.

[tepid sorrel]

there's nothing to hear about that isn't already there

u can just search "overclock" and find all u need

[fading vale]

I also enjoy how the combat_blade in code are actually ogryn cleavers

[tepid sorrel]

like a thousand other things, it's a dead thing they tinkered with for a bit

and there's no reason to remove it from the scripts for the sake of removing it

[ripe quest]

Other people are better at explaining some of this stuff and Lazorr is friends with like all of them.

[tepid sorrel]

im one of those other people

[polar nexus]

hmm a kourk with uncanny and precog

[tepid sorrel]

😆

[ripe quest]

I can tell yeah.

[south folio]

the reason to remove it is so that your blood pressure doesn't rise from people remarking on it

[fading vale]

I can call upon the crab as needed

[tepid sorrel]

RRBGHBNRGBHNRHGBNRJGF

talking with lopus can also be very enlightening

on some actual decisions not just things playtester man notices

[heavy arch]

how come sometimes game loads fast other times games take a year

[ripe quest]

Now I gotta find a bunch of scrapped content and ask Lazorr so Ancient gets triggered a bunch

[south folio]

so true

[tepid sorrel]

in layman's terms
Other players 🙂

[fading vale]

crab spending an hour explaining how the audio system works and why it's broken in many ways

[heavy arch]

oh i mean on start

[tepid sorrel]

into the mourningstar or into the character creation/selection area

[heavy arch]

character

well both tbh

[tepid sorrel]

the mourningstar is the reason i said

[north sedge]

blow the conch shell, summon the crustacean to save us

[tepid sorrel]

char select is something, somewhere on your end

😆

[heavy arch]

my pc bitchin tho

[tepid sorrel]

doesn't matter

[heavy arch]

only darktide slow as heck

[tepid sorrel]

software don't care

[heavy arch]

kk

devs pls fix

[fading vale]

probably DT just failing to cache shit correctly or something

[tepid sorrel]

could be literally thousands of reasons why the game has decided to arbitrarily load slowly into the main menu

[ripe quest]

I disabled the loading screens because it was eating frames

[tepid sorrel]

for you specifically

[heavy arch]

do you have fast loads all the time

[fading vale]

no

[heavy arch]

dang

[south folio]

pro gaming (is it an actually measurable benefit?)

[tepid sorrel]

into the main menu yeah

[ripe quest]

no I am jesting

[south folio]

:(

[ripe quest]

If I could I would

like with a lot of things

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-sheldon-sheldon-cooper-gif-14692602435686759834

[fading vale]

it's impossible to keep up with crab in voice

he helped me learn POE

[median steeple]

Bro is a tzeentch daemon there is no other explanation

[fading vale]

and I was just like

bro

please

[south folio]

I like the mod that gives you access to character inventories and whatnot in the character select screen to speed things up

[tepid sorrel]

crab is an intelligent young man with a bright future and an excellent work background

[north sedge]

Crab is energy incarnate

[south folio]

so that you don't have to load into the mourningstar each time you want to get stuff in the stores or do crafting

[ripe quest]

You just gotta turn your brain to 2x speed to match the pace.

[polar nexus]

he also has impeccable music tastes

[ripe quest]

I do hear it a lot though that he talks too fast but I can keep up so I'm just built different

[fading vale]

every time I would run into a new story character in POE he would explain the entirety of their lore and then rattle off their quotes

and he knew exactly when they would say certain lines

[ripe quest]

A real pro

[south folio]

sounds like he has a healthy amount of playtime in PoE

[polar nexus]

what does crab do irl?

[fading vale]

indeed

he has several degrees and a couple PHDs or a few partial PHDs, neuroscience, nuclear physics as well IIRC

[polar nexus]

godamn

[north sedge]

knows quite a bit about art and philosophy as well

[fading vale]

sometimes gives lectures and what not

he is just a man of knowledge

[polar nexus]

polymath

[heavy arch]

and he's jacked

[fading vale]

but the most important thing is the DT knowledge lol

[heavy arch]

he's the henry cavill of darktide

[opaque island]

https://tenor.com/view/dontworryillwait-whatelse-waiting-gif-23297221

My thunderhammer Flamer build has one big weakness, can you guys guess what it is?

[fading vale]

not diving hard enough

[ripe quest]

1 bulwark

[south folio]

me

[opaque island]

a sniper up on a unreachable area at a long distance

[polar nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/958078780834971688.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[sharp zodiac]

Range

Long long range

[fading vale]

unreachable snipers are about the only issue yeah

[median steeple]

Poor bastard exploded

[fading vale]

you could throwing knife them, but then bulwark packs fuck you

[opaque island]

We wiped on the train hold mission, not the ammo one. cause of a sniper doing that and none of us had a weapon that could deal with it

[fading vale]

just run the kant shotty

and enjoy handling every situation

I only run flamer for scab melee only really

[opaque island]

I just dont like how the shotguns feel

[heavy arch]

they feel like shotguns imo

real ones

[fading vale]

the kant shotty feels amazing

what don't you like about it

it can really do just about anything

they made the hipfire feel solid too

[polar nexus]

if people are coming from oneshot wonder or busted autoguns...

you have to remind yourself that you have to shot 2 or 3 slugs against some elites

[heavy arch]

you get an infinite cleave which is extremely spicy though

which makes living with the 2-3 shot ttk easy

[fading vale]

especially given it pens bulwarks

[polar nexus]

i wish zealot had a kickback like weapon

[fading vale]

and all the specials are either 1 or 2 shot

[pale kelp]

Kinda same, don't love the animation, mechanically they seem really good tho

[fading vale]

you do need no respite though

to get the guaranteed 2 shots

[polar nexus]

yeah

[tepid sorrel]

meep meep.

[north sedge]

i mean, i get it, i know kant is good but for whatever reason i dont like the mouthfeel of it

[polar nexus]

is it the sound?

[karmic whale]

honestly lawbringer with manstopper + scattershot makes me laugh everytime it's been hard to not use it

[polar nexus]

i feel like the lawby is more punchy sound wise

[ripe quest]

Better sound design for the shotguns would be nice.

[polar nexus]

for heavy swords too

it does not feel heavy at all

[spare talon]

i have been farming liches in warframe for the last 3 days straight
i need a darktide break

before i wither away

[tepid sorrel]

Back to the lich mines, kuva-man.

[opaque island]

honestly, its the sound, it just doesnt sound punchy enough for me

[polar nexus]

you can use the pewpew mod

i put the agri sound on my columnus

[opaque island]

I had a feeling someone was going to reccomend a mod

[polar nexus]

way better

[spare talon]

please no
ive done 17 liches in the last 3 days

[tepid sorrel]

More.

[north sedge]

just do this https://youtu.be/jwxN8sCIOOE?si=CCbqfZrgWeFfEB7F

[dark lily]

What kind of curios should I be shooting for? They're the only thing the Crusher guide didn't cover

[polar nexus]

3 toughness

[dark lily]

Running 2x toughness and 1x stamina

[north sedge]

3 toughness or 2 toughness 1 hp, if martydom wounds

[neat igloo]

does the penetration weapon stat actually do anything if you've got 100% rending from uncanny strike?

[polar nexus]

or 2 toughness and 1hp

[spare talon]

you dont really need stamina curios as a zealot

[coarse birch]

tbf they play pretty like swift and clean which i think the sound design actually encapsulates

but it does not follow the name

[spare talon]

only stamina regen if youre really hurting for it

[dark lily]

ok

[rose flower]

Any tips for if I am the last one alive on Karnak Twins? I’ve had it happen two times back to back.

[spare talon]

if you never have stamina issues, you can forgo that too

[coarse birch]

hard mode or nah

[spare talon]

i prefer using it cuz i use dclaw parries, and also you do push attack with crusher a lot so i use it with that too

[north sedge]

you actually benefit from less stam if you're using desperation

[copper hawk]

LESS

FIX MOD !!!!!!!!!!!

[tepid sorrel]

im gonna kill this cica guy on LIVE TELEVISION

[spare talon]

but it has a 5 sec duration and youre likely to proc it again before it runs out even with stam regen

[copper hawk]

u wouldnt

ur a weak

soyboy

im a soyMAN

[polar nexus]

actually, desperation + all or nothing on antax is quite wild

[copper hawk]

ancient,

[ripe quest]

Meme Achlys build is so cool because if I PA spam I get desperation up + bleed everything with what is essential a knife light with more cleave

[north sedge]

FLESH TEARER LACERATE ACHLYS

[tepid sorrel]

tell that to 1sgt.....

[ripe quest]

yessir

The 80% crit chance Achlys goes hard for Unyielding, Flak, and Carapace only.

Only 80% of the time though

[north sedge]

80% of the time it works everytime

[ripe quest]

80% of the time it 2 shots Crushers 20% of the time it 5 shots but we don't talk about it

[rose flower]

Nah

Playing with my bud I just find I’m the last one alive

We’re doing like. Heresy and Damnation

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-no-crumple-gif-12832654

[tepid sorrel]

here's my tip:

i will play with you 🙂

[spare talon]

my tip is
try killing them
it is typically very effective

[polar nexus]

on of you bring chorus and corruption removal?

[tepid sorrel]

they do tend to die when they are killed

[ripe quest]

My tip is Chaxe.

[polar nexus]

and high mobility weapon too?

[rose flower]

I got that part already lol

[tepid sorrel]

i will play the game with you 🙂

[ripe quest]

i will play the game with you 🙂

[rose flower]

I think I just need to not focus twins as much and kill specials more.

[tepid sorrel]

I'll play you.

[ripe quest]

See you at bingo

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-ballin-dragon-ball-z-nba-2k19-gif-20993953

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-parker-spiderman-hair-flip-style-cool-gif-9348690

[ripe quest]

This can help a bit yeah.

Last thing you want is something like a Flamer being annoying.

[subtle cedar]

yo

got a 4.6gig download

wat dis

[polar nexus]

hotfix

[ripe quest]

Probs like, models or assets being redownloaded.

[polar nexus]

fixed some crashes, made me crash at the end of run twice

[subtle cedar]

with no patch notes?

[ripe quest]

There are patch notes

[north sedge]

just a hot fix

[tepid sorrel]

there were patchnotes

[polar nexus]

it's fatshark

[subtle cedar]

wait, nvm, i dumb

looking at service updates

not news

[ripe quest]

Mr. Expert Playtester that says I should know better, any particular input on why it was as large as it was?

[spare dome]

... zealot still has faster base sprint right <.<

[tepid sorrel]

know better about what

[coarse birch]

if you can knock there shield down it will give you time for a revive

[tepid sorrel]

huh

[coarse birch]

after killing ads

well kill ads before shield knockdown

unless you got stuns or something

[ripe quest]

Referring to the earlier exchange about overclocks I am just memeing for comedic flavor.

[hollow mantle]

a chain melee weapon and like a agri braced auto on zealot and you have an answer for both twins. Felt like the agri could reliably magdump the melee twins shield down from halfway across the map. Then ofc evis destroys the ranged shield.

[coarse birch]

numbers are very important

[tepid sorrel]

oh oki

[coarse birch]

and yeah bring like chaxe/evis and a brauto or iag

covers all your bases

[hollow mantle]

When my group beat it I was running a crusher on my zealot so I could CC elites while still chunking boss shield

[coarse birch]

flamer is good too ive heard

[hollow mantle]

the heavy 2 light 1 chain on it is good, and they get staggered so skullcrusher adds a lot of dps

[ripe quest]

Zealot and Vet have 5.2 instead of just 5 for Ogryn and Psyker. It's weapon dependent though so it's not really game defining.

[coarse birch]

damn psyker is slower

oh wait i play like DS and laspistol

[ripe quest]

Ancient typing immediately as I posted that is intimidating

[north sedge]

i always ran flamer on twins

[coarse birch]

and DD

nvm im dumb

[polar nexus]

stun grenades are useful too

[tepid sorrel]

huh

i was not typing

[coarse birch]

yeah typing something and then a notable player typing is like

top 5 scariest things

[south folio]

bitch

[coarse birch]

unless im so certain what i said is correct

[tepid sorrel]

bitch

[coarse birch]

shut up arco i wasnt talking about you

[south folio]

bitch

[coarse birch]

well

[coarse birch]

you could def correct me on stuff

[tepid sorrel]

discord lying to you

[ripe quest]

Classical discord

[coarse birch]

however i feel as though whenever we have a convo in particular i know what im talking about

[south folio]

i will strike at your weaknesses

[coarse birch]

or i can just ask

what is my weakness

[south folio]

you will be felled

[coarse birch]

in this case

[tepid sorrel]

i will also strike at your weaknesses

im gonna play darktide and then sleep 🙂

[ripe quest]

What's your current movement bind setup.

[south folio]

no

[coarse birch]

damn

shut down

[tepid sorrel]

i have to press and hold wasd to walk forward only

i am the god gamer...

[spare dome]

all my binds are dodge

[copper hawk]

tell that

2 this foot

as i kick ur head off

KYAAA

[tepid sorrel]

tell that to the 30 guys u be doin on the daily babe!!!

[south folio]

bitch

[coarse birch]

i put each action as far away as possible on the keyboard to get them motion values

[copper hawk]

YAH

Y

YAH W

WELL

[tepid sorrel]

cicadicks!!!!

[copper hawk]

UHM

UR NOT ONE OF THEM !!!!!!!!!!

ISDIOT !!!

heh.. anothar win.. 4 me..

[tepid sorrel]

not only am i married but im not interested in ur used goods cica...

[ripe quest]

Dude the movement player that was in a couple days ago saying that rebinding jump is stupid

[copper hawk]

YAH well i

I am

[ripe quest]

was so funny

[copper hawk]

IM NOT INTERESTED IN UR UNUSED GOODS

[coarse birch]

jump is like the one thing im like

[copper hawk]

NYAHAHAHAA..

[south folio]

it was the weirdest statement to make

[coarse birch]

you have to rebind this

please

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-cat-cat-feeder-cat-feeder-camera-cat-camera-gif-1435288208602596413

[coarse birch]

wait i remember that guy

[median steeple]

I sometimes use jump

Jumping for joy

[south folio]

and it was like, bitch i came from source games as well, and who the fuck is bhopping with spacebar in games without autohop

[tepid sorrel]

alright arcotash what class should i play arcotash.

[south folio]

ogryn so you get brainrot

[coarse birch]

Hey i know that video

[tepid sorrel]

no

rather kms

[south folio]

play ogryn

[lyric goblet]

anybody run shotguns?

[north sedge]

i use my nintendo powerpad to jump

[tepid sorrel]

no.

[ripe quest]

Yeah.

[south folio]

ok play caxe zealot

[tepid sorrel]

that's just the same thing with faster legs

[lyric goblet]

i use bolter rn mainly just chainsaw everything

[south folio]

play psword vet

[tepid sorrel]

arckertash.. . .

[south folio]

ok go die (play assail scrier's psyker)

[tepid sorrel]

im about to turn you into a 90 tgh 3 wound curio psyker.

[lyric goblet]

is this worth keeping or stripping one of the blessings?

[south folio]

OwO

[tepid sorrel]

cmere babe........

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-butcher-tea-gif-23858792

[ripe quest]

We have a weapon setup guide in pins if you want to set one up. They're fun. Kant is probs the most Zealot-compatable but Lawby is solid too.

[tepid sorrel]

u know what maybe i WILL play psyker today

[ripe quest]

You can keep that, it's fine.

[lyric goblet]

i just got it as a drop no clue if its any good

[south folio]

married man btw

[tepid sorrel]

real

arco my side piece 🙂

[coarse birch]

arco can be the exception

surely theres some name pun to be made here

but i dont know what it is

[polar nexus]

aren't you like 21 and a student?

[south folio]

yep

[coarse birch]

aint no way im older than arco

[polar nexus]

Arco-kun

[south folio]

oh ancient is the married person

[tepid sorrel]

alright arco let's go im gona play the Psykor

[ripe quest]

Old

[south folio]

nani

[polar nexus]

YAMETE

[coarse birch]

arco-kun 😳

[polar nexus]

Ancient-san

[coarse birch]

didnt realize he was like that

[south folio]

have fun with 1 of your 10 psyker builds

[tepid sorrel]

there are 12 there

[polar nexus]

Lazzor-sempai

[south folio]

shut up

[tepid sorrel]

cant even count...

[tepid sorrel]

STUPID AS THEY COME, ARCO...

[south folio]

you're both sick bastards

[tepid sorrel]

aghaghaghaghaghagh

[coarse birch]

tbf i also have like

a lot of psyker builds

[south folio]

(I should get that mod because god I hate the inventory system of this game)

[ripe quest]

I need to have like 8 fury of the faithful builds ready just in case my preferences change in the lobby screen

[south folio]

i don't want to be punished for daring to enter my very fat psyker inventory

[dull sandal]

which mod is it that gives you more than 5

[ripe quest]

It's like MoreSlots or smth

[coarse birch]

i had to clear my inventory out recently

[dull sandal]

on vortex?

[coarse birch]

my mouringstar was struggling

nexus

vortex is a manager

[ripe quest]

More Characters and Loadouts

[dull sandal]

ty

[ripe quest]

I install mods manually so idk if it's on the mod loader or whatever

[dull sandal]

right

[coarse birch]

i dont know if this has vortex support yeah

manual modding isnt bad for this game tho

[ripe quest]

There are even mods that make it easier now it's dope

Also I get the luxury of changing stuff w/ the mods if I want to

[dull sandal]

Maybe someday I'll get that into it

for now, vortex is easy enough

[ripe quest]

One of us. One of us.

[coarse birch]

damn i dont have that many

i think i have uh

let me check

[dull sandal]

i have 11

this many -> 1 1

[ripe quest]

My user_config has like 6k lines of shit because of my mods

[dull sandal]

jesus

lost in the sauce

[coarse birch]

i have 21

[south folio]

jumpscare

[coarse birch]

arco

why

[ripe quest]

[south folio]

why would the mods do this to my user_settings.config file

!!!

[coarse birch]

bro pressed enter at the top 1000 times

[south folio]

no i would do that 5 times and then copy and paste newlines and then repeat that

[coarse birch]

that would be faster

[ripe quest]

[south folio]

bitch

[dull sandal]

rookie numbers

[coarse birch]

quick go get more mods to outdo arco

[dull sandal]

i have 5264561981357456465 lines

[ripe quest]

I can just like, change all of the weapons in my inventory w/ customization mod and I'll probs hit 9k

[coarse birch]

oh true

mine might be long then actually

[median steeple]

boo womp

[tepid sorrel]

im gonna do this to you irl

[south folio]

what the hell

[spare talon]

first game of the day

[median steeple]

Cuddle puddle

[coarse birch]

what rating do you need for +3 stam to actually give you +3 stam

[ripe quest]

Aight so after some testing Achlys Caxe meme setup will have Scourge up consistently but also gets actually like 0 bleed damage out it's great.

[zealous basin]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[placid fiber]

Guys, I found a way to make low int sedition "thrilling"

[ripe quest]

iirc 75

[coarse birch]

ty

[placid fiber]

Compare it to what I am doing right now in rorr for the lulz, in judgement on a secret character <.<'

[ripe quest]

It might be lower though, you'll know when you know lol

[placid fiber]

waiting to spawn a chest to get free loot... infinitely... with a chance of getting 2 loots sometimes

might not sound bad, but, the cooldown on the brooch is 135 seconds lol

[coarse birch]

tbf it also doesnt work in psyk right lol

[ripe quest]

wdym

[placid fiber]

like... this, literally, makes low intensity sedition look fun xD

I'm just doing this for the lulz, and cuz I can. <.<

[ripe quest]

Oh is there like a bug rn with stamina curios?

With 75+ I get 3 stam from them.

[placid fiber]

I think that is a known bug

is it where if it is below 75 or w/e that it only gives 2 stamina in missions?

on +3 stamina curios

[ionic nymph]

Ayy

The armory Is selling a heavy sword with a lowest of 70

And a 20%

[coarse birch]

i thought +3 stam didnt display properly in psyk

but i dont know if its been fixed yet i havent checked

[coarse birch]

yeah this is known

[placid fiber]

All I know is that I heard about that being a bug at one time where it didn't give proper stamina amounts in some place or another x.x

[coarse birch]

as still in the game

[ionic nymph]

I didn't know the armory can sell 20% curios

[placid fiber]

it can sell up to 21% for hp and 17% for toughness. not including bonuses from perks

[south folio]

76 and above is the correct threshold iirc
75 is the rating that bamboozles you

[coarse birch]

arco

shouldnt you be in bed

[south folio]

it's 9:40 pm binch

[coarse birch]

nvm i thought you were ahead of me

[south folio]

binch

[coarse birch]

damn i looking out for your wellbeing and you call me a binch

twice

[south folio]

that's right, binch

[coarse birch]

im literally gonna shove you off a ledge

oh wait

[south folio]

wtf

WOW

[coarse birch]

i dont have to

[south folio]

you really are a binch

[coarse birch]

this was warranted

[placid fiber]

Arco, look at this "thrilling" rorr gameplay x.x

I'm doing something stupid. I, basically, am able to farm infinite items for a special challenge <.<

[south folio]

most sane RoR player

[coarse birch]

one day i will fuck up in game with arco

[placid fiber]

the fucking equipment's cooldown is 135 seconds, tho

[coarse birch]

and itll be over

[south folio]

joever

[coarse birch]

joever indeed

[placid fiber]

Like, this shit legit makes low intensity sedition look fun to me atm xD

[south folio]

😔

[placid fiber]

low intensity sedition... with a group of the pros with 550 weapons, maxed curios, and all level 30...

[coarse birch]

also did you really hit me with wtf as if you didnt theaten to shove me into a volcano or tell me you are going to bake/kill me 3 times a day

[placid fiber]

Who, Arco? Arco says bunches of random shit >.>

[south folio]

exactly

[coarse birch]

ye arco

[south folio]

don't use my own words against me

[coarse birch]

oh so now the arco defense comes in

[south folio]

i can't be held liable for what I say or do

[placid fiber]

Arco literally makes me look like a normal person, with no mental issues... when you compare how the two of us talk xD

[coarse birch]

who are you stan

i expect more of you arco

maybe thats on me

oh arcos fine hes cool

[south folio]

possibly

[coarse birch]

he just tells me to die a lot

[placid fiber]

Granted that's mostly because Arco is just a lot more verbally aggressive than I am <.<'

[south folio]

very normal statement to throw out of course

i'm a gamer after all

[coarse birch]

fair point

however im older than you

respect your elders and all that

[south folio]

wow
really gonna pull that card

[coarse birch]

as if itll work

[south folio]

boomer

[coarse birch]

lol

[placid fiber]

Older means jack shit in this day and age. People act their shoe sizes more than their ages

[south folio]

exactly

[coarse birch]

rude

im older than you by less than a year

[south folio]

i am happy to fight 100 100 year olds

[coarse birch]

YOUR JUST AGREEING BECAUSE IT BENEFITS YOU

[south folio]

i will punch grandmas

[coarse birch]

AAAAAAA

[ripe quest]

Do you think it's a rounding thing like with base stats? I have 75 rating +3 Stam curios that are proper +3 stam

[coarse birch]

yeah

[south folio]

is it working in real games?

[placid fiber]

Whether it benefits Arco or not... it is sadly a true statement, none the less...

[coarse birch]

id guess its not actually a 75 prob

[ripe quest]

I'll check w/ my next run

Running a meme build anyways so why not

[south folio]

if you're checking it in the psykhanium, it was bamboozling people there last time

what in the world could possibly result in this discrepancy between the meatgrinder and real missions

[placid fiber]

Um... breakpoints when ideal situations are met...?

the uh... 0.01% of the time that they actually do...

[coarse birch]

also the stats rounding thing

is actual so evil

imagine getting that dumbass mk19 shovel roll and your 77 is actually a 76 and you just get trolled

[coarse birch]

i am curious

it affects so much random shit

[ripe quest]

75 is +2 ingame yeah

[coarse birch]

oh so you need 76

or do you think your just getting rounding memed

[ripe quest]

There's like, 2 level 41's in sedition what is this

[coarse birch]

probably doing weeklies

do 8 missions or w/e

[south folio]

rumbled and tumbled

[coarse birch]

what is it with you and rumbling recently

[south folio]

i'm RUUUUMBLINNNNG

[coarse birch]

ah thanks

that explains it

[ripe quest]

3 level 40's wht

huh

THEY HAVE ORANGE WEAPONs

mmmm

[still quartz]

Darktide shop gets new rotation of cosmetics tomorrow, ja?

I suspect rerun

[south folio]

stop looking

[coarse birch]

yeah stop

before you go to far

[south folio]

you are inflicting psychic damage unto yourself

[coarse birch]

its gonna be some fuckin

demonic shit

the reddit loadoujt

[still quartz]

Look man, sometimes you just wanna chill a little in Sedition ya know

[polar nexus]

i want gold pants

[fleet zealot]

Speedrunning sedition matches for melk money

Also god damn they need to buff surge staff it is just a worst void staff at this point

It is funny that it’s most balanced state was being bugged with an extra target and 125% damage boost from EP

[mental coral]

Oh boy what variation of toilet bowl will psykers get this time

@south folio any guesses?

[fleet zealot]

Idk just give it like 50% more damage

Why isn’t discord mobile clearing my chatbox

[mental coral]

wdym some psykers think it’s better than voidstrike

[south folio]

cat ears

[neat igloo]

give us bidet psyker cowards

[mental coral]

Bro if they sold cat ears so many people would buy it

[fleet zealot]

And maybe like, the chain target takes more damage

[muted vale]

what heavy sword do u prefer and why? .)

[mental coral]

Are you animation canceling with surge staff

That’s like the only way to make it “good”

[fleet zealot]

The only upside is that you can get surge staff going way quicker

It has a faster charge time and goes flurry

Void goes surge nexus and charges slower

[ripe quest]

scoreboard, the state of fire damage, and knife horde clear. Truly a different world.

[mental coral]

But yes surge staff would be nice if it got a 75% dmg buff or wte

[fleet zealot]

30%-50% damage buff and deals full damage to secondary targets

[south folio]

roasted and toasted

[fleet zealot]

Or well target, but i hope they buff it to 3 targets total

Right now it just chains to a second target but it barely does damage

[mental coral]

The problem with surge staff is that it’s a single target damage weapon that doesn’t do single target damage

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fleet zealot]

Yee

[mental coral]

Can’t have too many targets cuz they gotta differentiate it from smite

[fleet zealot]

Hmm

Maybe if they just full send it

[fading vale]

it was pretty silly with the EP buff

[ripe quest]

I have no stakes in Psyker but I'd enjoy if the right click was big lightning that could like, properly nuke something like a Crusher and you get a blessing or two that affects the chaining or smth. Left click is a short ranged blast that cleaves.

[fleet zealot]

Make the firing not a channel

Make it a lightning bolt

Just fucking smite

[mental coral]

The EP buff was like +125% dmg and 3 targets

So I’m thinking something like 75%

[fleet zealot]

Tbf the targets only mattered for stagger

[mental coral]

And tweak it from there

[fleet zealot]

The spread damage is atrocious

[ripe quest]

Give Surge staff showstopper but 100% chance

[fleet zealot]

Yea i like all these ideas

[mental coral]

When EP bug existed the spread damage was actually not trash but it was also an entire bug where surge staff did more than double damage and you were hitting one extra target

[fleet zealot]

Especially the lightning strike idea

If it is gonna be fast to charge just have it release instantly

[mental coral]

Idk surge staff is kinda anemic rn but apparently purge staff is the worst staff

[fleet zealot]

Have the enemies take the wiggle shock dot then big damage from a lightning bolt

[south folio]

the surge staff becomes a lightning rod and you have a 1% chance of getting struck by lightning every second and instantly dying

[fleet zealot]

Purge isnt the worst

[mental coral]

Atleast that’s what all the redditors and even some darktide people say

[fleet zealot]

It is just outshined

[ripe quest]

Instant meta

[fleet zealot]

Redditors are dumb

[mental coral]

I’ve seen people rank it as surge > voidstrike > trauma > purge

Which is just

[fleet zealot]

Surge is bad stateise

[ripe quest]

Well something can be 'the worst' but that doesn't always mean it's bad n whatnot

[fleet zealot]

Purge is not taken cause you always take 1-3 soulblaze talents

Which basically covers what most purge can do

[ripe quest]

from an outside perspective I see Trauma/Voidstrike > Purge > Surge

[mental coral]

That’s how I would rank them too but

[fleet zealot]

I think soulblaze should have basically no armor penalties

[sinful widget]

how do i use the voidstrike effectively?

[fleet zealot]

And nerf the soulblaze talents

Instant buff to purge

[ripe quest]

Or just make it a different debuff

Separate from purge

[fleet zealot]

Surge + warp nexus

Aim for heads

[south folio]

Purg is fine in my opinion
it's a pretty basic infinite cleave weapon and deserves to be sidelined in any decent team

[fleet zealot]

Congrats you can now stunlock monsters

[mental coral]

Ik there’s a lot of grandiose ideas I’ve heard in general to make soulblaze either a debuff or have some interaction where you can make enemies explode to apply more or you can extinguish them to get a buff or wte

Idk what year they expect those changes to show up cuz it ain’t happening quick

[fleet zealot]

Ehh i think what lets zealot run flamer is chastise

[south folio]

tbf psyker's have duelling swords and perilous combustion for crusher patrols

[fleet zealot]

Psyker really cant use purge to melt a ton of armored elites like we can

[ripe quest]

ok but imagine the right click is the same but the left click is a charged explosion on a targeted enemy that does stagger and a DoT AoE

[fleet zealot]

Fireball

[mental coral]

I still don’t know why zealots have this jank ass interaction on chastise

[south folio]

OwO

[mental coral]

With ranged armor strip

[fleet zealot]

Wait purge m1 should be a fire ball

[mental coral]

It’s not even in the ability description

[fleet zealot]

There is a disabled/unreleased purge staff blessing in the code that applied brittleness or rending (i forgot which)

[south folio]

flamers and bombers get to apply ground fire
therefore we should get the same (shut up immo nade zealots)

[spare talon]

what exactly is the reddit loadout
or what defines it

[fleet zealot]

Combustion and wildfire dropping patches would be cool

[ripe quest]

It's totally not an extremely complex mechanic that requires both an understanding of the weapon and the actual mechanic of the armor downgrade.

[mental coral]

For psyker? Gotta have bubble shield + smite

[ripe quest]

That's completely unlisted

And it's sub-components aren't fully explained

[south folio]

naaaaaaaaah

[lime cedar]

Would be a good idea actually. Right now the main issue with flamer is that Psyker flamer staff just beats it in my opinion because no ammo cost and faster "reload".

[ripe quest]

Surely not

[fleet zealot]

Flamer is stupidly ammo efficient

[south folio]

flamer is better imo since ammo doesn't matter currently and it's on the class with chastise

[fleet zealot]

And has a much bigger range/coverage area

As well as us being able to buff it up a lot

[mental coral]

Psyker staff does less damage and can’t deal with armor, but I do imo think it feels nicer to use cuz fast pullout and basically on demand whenever you want

[ripe quest]

Purge will nuke smaller stuff faster due to the better direct damage tbf

[lime cedar]

But your missing a crucial fact.

The psyker flames are BLUE.

[fleet zealot]

Meanwhile purge staff has anti synergy since soulblaze talents have a hard cap

[lime cedar]

BLUE!

[ripe quest]

Anything with health though normal burn will stack and outpace purge

[south folio]

so true

[fleet zealot]

Heretic blue

Witch blue

Sinful blue

[spare talon]

but the staff inherently works better than the flamer without ammo and all that, and it synergizes with many talents on the tree, including a keystone

[fleet zealot]

Not glorious golden flames

[coarse birch]

its mostly a joke, but really just stuff like +block effic or melee weakspot with like shock and awe on hammer, stuff that just doesnt work but might be reccomended by the subbreddit because people usually just say random shit over there, but i cant blame them because the game explains nothing and unless you had like exhil or arco etc to ask then you wouldnt know

[ripe quest]

Yeahhh but patrol nuking

[south folio]

on the other hand, burn is better than Soulblaze by default so you're playing catch-up with the buffs on psyker

[fleet zealot]

It has anti synergy cause if you are going left you go the soulblaze talents but they all cap at 6 or 8 stacks

[south folio]

and also zealot gets anoint lul

[lime cedar]

The main reason Psykers run flame staff is because it pairs very well with soulblaze buids, it can build peril for high peril builds at a easy to control rate and it can trigger head pop.

[spare talon]

only like 2% of players even know that armor downgrade is even real im ngl

[coarse birch]

on the plus side, psyker does have very good access to uncanny to buff the soulblaze

[fleet zealot]

Every thing pairs well with soulblzae talents

[mental coral]

What

[ripe quest]

Oh, sure, but that doesn't make the Flamer any worse.

[spare talon]

i didnt learn about it until like hour 600

[mental coral]

No one brings purge to trigger head pop

[fleet zealot]

It is the meta for damage/vent psyker

[mental coral]

No one bring kinetic flayer in general

Kinetic flayer is a meme option now

Since they got rid of warp charges being tied to BB

[lime cedar]

Zealot flamer tends to be better at killing the actual enemies while psyker staff seems better at crowd control.

[spare talon]

it used to be top tier.......

[ripe quest]

no dude you can kill a crusher with staff special attacks w/ it

it's so fun

[fleet zealot]

Take combustion, take wildfire if you can, take soulblaze shriek and bam

[mental coral]

Lies

[fleet zealot]

You dont need purge or a blazing blessing

[mental coral]

It takes more than one BB to kill a crusher

[lime cedar]

It's still good if your team has vets that can't aim for shit.

[fleet zealot]

You still light whole rooms on fire

[lime cedar]

Truth.

[mental coral]

How many fucking staff bonks are you slapping the crusher with

[last plover]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-darktide-sharpshooter-darktide-veteran-hello-chat-darktide-hello-chat-gif-2742873438399829862

[lime cedar]

BRAIN BURST IS STILL GOOD! I'LL DO ON THS HILL!

[fleet zealot]

Brainburst is stuck in awkward spot limbo with taxe and surge staff

[last plover]

https://tenor.com/view/topo-war-magic-mouse-gif-13518929

[lime cedar]

Vet: "Oh no! I can't hit the sniper because he's too far and hard to see!"
Psyker: "I see a singe pixel, that's enough."

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1166831257078992936/strats.mp4?ex=65c3e3ca&is=65b16eca&hm=10c446cbf9cdaf392bc5e448dcbe4fdef1384764e18698c9b7458a149f82c4f9&

[fleet zealot]

Like surge it is just a pure single target weapon that does less than a krak

And with vet nade economy you arent even going to run out of kraks

[last plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728174260878704643/1178364672756437022/salvatory_ogryn.gif

[mental coral]

BB is serviceable but kinetic flayer upgrade is a waste of a point typically

[fleet zealot]

Right in the golden throne

[fleet zealot]

Yee this

[mental coral]

But anyways it’s like 1:30 AM so

Ima go sleep now

[fleet zealot]

It is usuable and good in some situations but it is just a poor opportunity cost

[mental coral]

@fleet zealot for surge staff it kinda crutches on warp damage buffs, crits, and animation cancel

[lime cedar]

AI director: "Nades and ammo for everyone!"
Also AI Director: "Huh no one died. Game must be too easy. Time for a gunner, sniper, mutant, dog swarm+a horde+a chaos spawn, OH AND IN A BIG OPEN AREA WITH NO COVER!"

[mental coral]

Yes it crutches in 3 different things to be good

[mental coral]

Anyways gn

[fleet zealot]

There is cover, use the enemy as meatshields

Dodge on the audio que and sniper will deadshot his allies

[lime cedar]

I don't trust it. I am 90% sure fuckers will shoot through enemies to hit players.

[fleet zealot]

They do

[lime cedar]

I've seen gunners shooting through the tiniest of gaps to mess our shit up.

[fleet zealot]

Thats why you dodge

On the audio que

[lime cedar]

Buddy, I got four crushers, several ragers, two dogs, four mutants, a horde, 2 snipers, a god damn chaos spawn! (true story). Easier said then done.

[spare talon]

just kill em first then so you can deal with the sniper safely

[fleet zealot]

Hardest battles

[ripe quest]

Depends on the enemy composition. Gunners can chip you while dodging, otherwise yeah you can just dodge. With smth like that enemy comp it sounds like enemy spawns are outpacing your team's kill power outside of the specials.

[lime cedar]

I can often carry a game but I am still not the point where I can carry without my teammates serving as at least meat shields.

[fleet zealot]

This is prob true

[lime cedar]

Like if they ALL die within the first ten seconds and I can't kite these fuckers I am probably dead. I haven't reached that god tier skill some peopl have where they just solo auric runs.

[brisk raft]

Chocob?

[ripe quest]

There's a couple YTers that are like that

Fairly sure we got some people in this channel that could.

[spare talon]

really hard to compare yourself to someone running a solo auric build, because they are basically entirely built for survivability only

[ripe quest]

mhm

Though the build differences aren't mega different

At least for Zealot

Maybe like, knife being considered more for movement speed or whatever

[spare talon]

i remember watching someone do it and it was just a knife build with crit cdr+piety+scourge, backstab cdr, and invis

and they just killed 2-3 things then went invis for another 6 seconds

each fight and encounter took 10x longer than it normally would have

[ripe quest]

Ah yeah that usually happens with those kinds of builds

[spare talon]

if you build for that and go into a public game, youre setting yourself up to be in that position anyway since you lack killing power

[lime cedar]

My favorite is the knife build is sneaks up behind special, stabs it, dies to 5x gunners they failed to notice.

Like yes, if you go alone into a room alone every special and their mom is going to target you the moment stealth is gone. Why is this a surprise to some!?

[hollow mantle]

A lot of it is knowing when to pull back and how to make space doing so

And a lot of the time the enemies kill each other if you aren't running invis

[exotic portal]

fave part is surviving and getting kicked for it

[placid fiber]

I am so glad I accidentally hit restart run so I could stop sitting there and farming items at such a pitifully slow rate... God that was so boring, despite the fact I was doing it for the lulz :/

[hidden verge]

I tried heavy sword but having trouble with carapace armour. What gun to bring along?

[ripe quest]

Generally people take a Hand-Cannon Zarona Revolver for that

Or just anything with good flak DPS while running Fury of the Faithful due to the armor downgrade.

[hollow mantle]

Yeah almost gun can work if you are running fury, you just need to be mindful of saving your ult for it. But zarona is great, you can use the agri revolver too but it gives up a lot. bolter as well if you are running knives for the quicker pull time.

[ember yew]

Zarona mk2 (said above already) or Bolter, but Zarona is just better.
If you are gonna use chastice, Laspistol mk2, Columnus 5, Agripina Brauto 8, Laspistol m10 works too, but i like mk2.

[ornate bone]

Br auto with chastise is funny

You can kill crushers just by shooting them in the chest for a bit

[hollow mantle]

yeah zarona is by far the best choice currently. Nothing deals with armor half so well on zealot

[ornate bone]

But uh
You kill like only one crusher more or less
But it's still fun

[dense field]

I do

[long sluice]

Any tips for a good way to level a new zealot?

[hollow mantle]

sometimes you can get two with agri braced. sometimes

[ornate bone]

Yeah basically needs good Crit rolls

[hollow mantle]

yeah and lots of headshots

[ornate bone]

But I still love the br auto for zealots

Revolver is just way better for ammo efficiency

But I have immunity to ranged attacks on close kills with my current br auto

So it supports running and gunning for the funnies

[hollow mantle]

the nice thing about the braced auto is it works well regardless of the blessings

[vestal coyote]

Hey guys, I have a question

[ornate bone]

Yeah it's just a solid gun apart from not being too accurate mid ranged

[hollow mantle]

revolver gets a massive boost from handcannon and a crit one

[vestal coyote]

Is the Serial Killer penance still able to just be done with brain burst?

as of this point in time

I've been trying to get it like an idiot and topped out at 17/20

[sterile schooner]

Is this the headshot one? If so, yeah you can do it with brain burst

[vestal coyote]

So now I wanna just cheese it

yeah it is

20 consecutive headshot kills

You really can?

Fuuuuuck me lmao

I wasted so much time trying to do it with a gun

[ornate bone]

I mean
Gun is usually easier as long as you aim at their head, bring a good rifle, and keep the recoil

[vestal coyote]

I am really good at revolver headshots now at least!

the thing that would get me is someone would eventually spaz out or move wrong at the last moment

[sterile schooner]

Just play matches tbh. When a difficulty is getting too easy, move up to the next one

[vestal coyote]

and I'd blast off a forearm instead

[ornate bone]

Ye that's fair

It's pretty obnoxious tbh

[vestal coyote]

that's how I got the 17

I was playing with my girlfriend and bots

bot shot the 18th dude at the last moment and he staggered

made me hit his chest

We just couldn't get the damned bots to die, either lol

Fuckin things were tough

[sterile schooner]

Don't you need to be careful with penetrating shots too with a gun?

At least with brain burst there's no chance of missing

[rose flower]

Hear me out.

I think Shroudfield should go away because I don’t think there should be two stealth skills. I want something fresh

What if we got a skill where he dual wield our current equipped melee weapon temporarily

[vestal coyote]

That also got me

I Was using the revolver because I wanted to be sure the shots would be 1 hit kills

But it'd go through and hit some other guy's shoulder or whatnot

[rose flower]

That. Or you. An equip a second one handed weapon on your character select screen with the ability equipped

[ornate bone]

If you use the new revolver

You have almost 0 cleave funny enough

Cleave on it is actually awful

[vestal coyote]

OH yeah

but you can't ADS on it

[ornate bone]

Though it does have a 1 character cleave on unarmored

[vestal coyote]

I think it has 0 penetration doesn't it? Like it stops on anybody you shoot

[ornate bone]

So even that has a chance of fucking up lmao

[vestal coyote]

Oh okay

[ornate bone]

Yeah anything that's tougher than a groaner has 0 pen

[vestal coyote]

I did consider it, but then I figured ugh, the aim is the hipfire

so it's not perfectly accurate

even if it's not THAT hard to land headshots with the hipfire

just adds more of a challenge to an already annoying penance

[ornate bone]

Yeah

[vestal coyote]

Literally the ONLY one I need to get that damned Krillhawk claw

i want it!

[ornate bone]

BB is still probably your safest even if it's boring

Just be sure to take off stuff like the warpfire blessing

[vestal coyote]

yeah and I have a level 30 psyker

So easy peasy

[ornate bone]

Since you don't wanna randomly kill a groaner with the fire lol

[vestal coyote]

Oh yeah good point

[dawn wharf]

Think they are gonna buff the Agri revolver? Kinda hoping they get a damage bump plus cleave.

[exotic portal]

easy penance

[woeful oyster]

So when I get Skullcrusher 4, can I say this is a G-roll?

[ripe quest]

Graia and Agri will get roughly two with just Fury yeah.

[polar nexus]

so what would be its weaknesses?

[dawn wharf]

I'd just like it to have a strength lol

[polar nexus]

reload faster

[woeful oyster]

I went 2,000+ hours in the game without knowing exactly how bonkers the crusher really is...

[dawn wharf]

That's a pretty mild strength compared to the trade off

[ripe quest]

Boltgun still has the highest burst for Crushers iirc

[ripe quest]

I mean, it was pretty bad up until it's rework.

[woeful oyster]

I've played on and off since release, I tried it today and it is just so busted.

Literally Bonkers

[ripe quest]

Yeah it's been regarded as pretty solid since the rework.

[woeful oyster]

It's WAY better than just pretty solid.

Just not that great of boss damage imo

With my roll

[lime cedar]

Crusher is pretty good, I am torn between crushers and evisators.

[woeful oyster]

I was all for the hammer and evis but the crusher has made me a believer. The stagger lets you just stay alive in shit that would be zero survival rating with the hammer or the evis

[dawn wharf]

Yeah I love the new crusher. I didn't play much with it before but it's pretty good at controlling the field while doing good damage

[ripe quest]

There's a couple ways they could buff it. Alt they could nerf Zarona a bit. imo Zarona should be a weakspot leaning weapon and Agri should be crit leaning. It already has more ammo to kinda support it, could even give it 6 in a cylinder.

Being expected to hit weakspots w/ the agri leads to frustration, especially without the cleave.

This could also make it better than the Zarona for bursting Crushers.

[woeful oyster]

See, I look at the agripina as the bossing version of the zarona not a crusher killer.

[ripe quest]

If I want really fast special takedowns at any range I take a Zarona, if I want to burst stuff in close range I take an Agri, both are good at bursting small elites.

[woeful oyster]

Yeah they can both do the small shit easy but the agri has sustained dps so

I see that as better for mag dumping bosses

[ripe quest]

It has the Unyielding damage for it yeah, but like, it's not a big difference esp when the Flak and Carapace damage is significantly lower.

[south folio]

make the fan crosshair accurate but it jumps around, so it becomes something that you can theoretically control instead of being left up to god

[dawn wharf]

I think for me the lack of cleave makes me avoid it since the forced hip fire means shots are more likely to hit stray chaff. Feel I'd rather just use the Zarona close up or take a Bolter

[dense field]

Let your heart guide the hand

[ripe quest]

I find it super funny that Crucian Roulette is the 'goto crit blessing for Agri' but it lacks the same synergy that CR has with the Zarona + it's just worse

[polar nexus]

that forever staying at one bullet strat

[ripe quest]

It's kinda reasonable to perform given how you use the Zarona usually

[polar nexus]

yeah

surgical + crucian works well

[ripe quest]

mmm

hand-cannon though

[polar nexus]

yeah but that would be more noticeable on crushers

the crit oneshots basically everything

[dawn wharf]

Think since it's already more of a burst damage weapon, it would work well with point blank? Be kinda a fun swappy kit like Weapon Specialist Vet

Haven't tried it or anything, but sounds neat at least

[woeful oyster]

I'm a big fan of PB but the window is so small I don't think you'd get a full mag dump in the window

on the agri

[dawn wharf]

Bummer, it does feel really tight

[woeful oyster]

But I have a zarona with HC and PB that I dearly love.

[dawn wharf]

Could be an interesting way to inadvertently buff the Agri if they made that perks window a bit longer and the crit chance higher

[dawn wharf]

Oh that sounds fun

[woeful oyster]

They really should buff PB, you have to get a melee kill and 2.5 second window. Yet surgical is just ads??? lame

[woeful oyster]

It is

[dawn wharf]

It doesn't stack on melee kill does it?

[ripe quest]

no

[woeful oyster]

Idk what you mean by stacking with melee. But PB is proced by getting a melee kill, on the kill the timer starts.

[dawn wharf]

Idea would be for every melee kill you get a stack of X% crit chance for 2.5 secs

[ripe quest]

Oh actually it might

[dawn wharf]

And a melee kill resets the cooldown

Personally that's the only way it would make sense being only 20% crit chance

[woeful oyster]

Nah It doesn't, melee kills just refresh the 2.5 second timer

[ripe quest]

No I was just really lucky

[dawn wharf]

Honestly feel like that would be a solid buff for it though

[vestal coyote]

Well now that I know I can do it with brain burst yes it definitely will be easy for me now

[woeful oyster]

The crit chance it gives is enough to get 8 out of 10 crits but I just think they should buff the window honestly.

[dawn wharf]

That's with Talent Tree buffs?

[woeful oyster]

This roll is enough for the 8 out of 10

It would only be even better with the tree

[dawn wharf]

Is the critical bonus actually boosting Ranged crit chance?

[woeful oyster]

Bloodletter or thrust. Your choice

[dawn wharf]

I thought it only controlled damage and the melee smack

[woeful oyster]

I always thought crit bonus was for crit damage. You just need the crit chance perk with PB and its gona be good.

[ripe quest]

Yoo huge. Swap Thunderous to Thrust or Slaughterer

[woeful oyster]

That's really all I'm referring to when I said roll

[ripe quest]

Bloodletter sucks

[ripe quest]

+Critical Hit Damage doesn't boost crit chance.

[woeful oyster]

nah it doesn't, it's awesome

[dawn wharf]

I'm a bit confused how you got an 80% crit chance from PB and the Ranged Crit perk.

[woeful oyster]

Just lucky shots I guess.

[dawn wharf]

Ooooh lol

I read that way more literally

[ripe quest]

You don't really get any BPs w/ it esp on the Mk XII. You also sacrifice boss damage.

If it gave stacks on base revs maybe but it's not really doing a whole lot for you

[woeful oyster]

That's the thing about me, Boss damage is serious

But in his case slaughterer is probably this pick.

Since I really only like to pare BL with thrust on the chaxes

[ripe quest]

You can 1 shot all elites raw w/ the Mk XII you don't ever use BL for anything on it

[woeful oyster]

Except the big damage on bosses...

[ripe quest]

You get way more damage with either Headtaker or Thrust.

Especially on Flak bosses which the Chaxe is spec'd for

[tribal whale]

Is it me or does Chorus just suck compared to Fury of the Faithful (I only like running Chorus fyi)

[woeful oyster]

I like the dot, man

[ripe quest]

If you can get past the weird shield mechanics you can 1 shot assassination bosses with Chaxe

[bitter anvil]

Isn’t the traitor cap boss are unyielding?

[ripe quest]

Yeah random spawn ones are.

No they're flak

[bitter anvil]

Huh

[ripe quest]

Twins are Cara/Flak/Unarmored

[bitter anvil]

So traitor cap are not unyielding?

[ripe quest]

The shield is a special armor type and they're flak underneath

No they are not.

[bitter anvil]

I means regular assassination boss

Not twin

[ripe quest]

Thammer will still chunk them though despite losing the like 3x damage it has

[ripe quest]

Yes normal assassination bosses are flak

Twins are Cara/Flak/Unarmored

[bitter anvil]

Fuck that, I keep thinking they are unyielding

Game latern misinformation

[woeful oyster]

I mean, It doesn't suck if you use it right. But at the end of the day a fury build just has bigger balls

[dawn wharf]

I wouldn't say Chorus sucks as much as Fury is really good. But Chorus is great for providing healing and control at key times to prevent wipes

[north sedge]

Just wildly different uses

[ripe quest]

mhm

[tribal whale]

Yeah it's just with Fury you can just delete the problem before it happens

[woeful oyster]

This looks like minecraft tide

[ripe quest]

ehh it can depend. Chorus will stagger stuff near you and give a team buff. If teammates are getting rolled it'll save them.

Like if a patrol comes by and you are in a corner the amount of breathing room Chorus gives your team is great.

[bitter anvil]

He’s like put zero graphic in the game

[dawn wharf]

Yeah there are a lot of scenarios Fury just won't prevent nor save you from

[woeful oyster]

That's why you use marty

[ripe quest]

runescape

[spare talon]

not that ive come across

[bitter anvil]

RuneScapeTide

[dawn wharf]

Well that's just cheating you can do Marty with Chorus lol

[woeful oyster]

More like Valheimtide

[ripe quest]

you have not seen some of the shit this game does on the lowest settings

[woeful oyster]

I'm sayin with Fury

[ripe quest]

Some maps don't have floors

[tribal whale]

Maybe that's my problem. I only like using Chorus for ult spam

[bitter anvil]

I love chorus with crits reduction

Is funny

[tribal whale]

you get 20% damage! YOU GET- EVERYBODY!!

Fuck gunners and Reapers just don't let them play the game

[ripe quest]

The thing w/ it is it can be more or less effective based on your team. Good teams are only ever using it as a AoE w m1 button for ranged enemies, boss stagger and util, and a panic button incase a slip-up happens. Bad teams need it every corner and/or cannot do anything with it.

[spare talon]

once i swapped from crit cdr chorus to crit cdr chastise
literally night and day
crit cdr chastise allowing you to both have its effects WHILE charging up the next one just puts it a cut above chorus with crit cdr

[bitter anvil]

Mark XV Eviscerator vrm vrm vrm

[dawn wharf]

Crit cdr is definitely better on chastise/Fury for sure

[bitter anvil]

I extra crits chance 25%

With piety fury

[dawn wharf]

If I run CDR, it's gonna be Fury 9/10

[bitter anvil]

You are gold

[tribal whale]

That's why I wanna ULT spam so I could carry any bad team

But Fury just does that

[ripe quest]

If bad teams are the latter part of what I said then you'd probs be better with Fury spam.

Depends a bit.

Being in a premade makes the decision so much easier.

[spare talon]

dude im literally hard carring bad teams with fury spam
its no contest

[bitter anvil]

Premade team when society anxiety

[north sedge]

Teams with low killing power will be helped by you doing more dmg than overshielding them, generally speaking

[woeful oyster]

Looks cooler to cut the crusher in half than to stun lock him.

[dawn wharf]

For bad teams, Fury is better than chorus for sure

[spare talon]

wheres my awesome and very cool rager clip that i post every other day

[polar nexus]

Especially when riposte is 6s...

[spare talon]

i have to find it again

[woeful oyster]

They doin PB dirty man That's all I'm sayin. Let it be 3 seconds and call it a day.

[ripe quest]

Like w/ this team for example (tested smth in pub sedition and found 3 lvl 41's) if I ran Chorus I'd be doing jack with it.

[dawn wharf]

There will still be a brief time in between chorus spams and if your team isn't killing fast enough it only prolongs being overwhelmed. Especially if you can kill because your stuck holding the ark of thr covenant

Fury cdr has good sustain and damage which makes it a safer option for a carry where you'll need to do a lot of the elite removal, horde clear, or both

[spare talon]

is this what your primary weapon name is based on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8__gQ8SVuY&ab_channel=Delorian

[ripe quest]

ye

[spare talon]

thats one of my favorite videos of all time

[ripe quest]

Emperor gave me a god rolled Achlys Caxe for free the day after I was told to try and get one

It's really fun

[north sedge]

Tbh if I'm going support role i log onto voc vet, I'm not wild about chorus

[ripe quest]

I can turn it into my meme crit build Caxe and then if I get over that I can change it to meta stuff later.

Very pog

[tribal whale]

I love being a support, crowd control, zealot but can I just say Pyskers with bubble and lightning do my job waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay BETTER

Even with my baby boy the Crusher

Love me the special action