#zealot-class

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ripe quest
royal vortex
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do u see what i mean

coarse birch
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you looked backwards for a sniper

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THERE?

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its a fucking wall behind you

royal vortex
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oh the collat

ripe quest
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The sniper gets obliterated it was so funny

coarse birch
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yeah

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snipers destroy other mobs lol

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they just fly

ripe quest
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I knew that but I never seen a sniper hit another sniper.

coarse birch
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me either lol

ripe quest
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A legendary clash of rifles

royal vortex
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lemme clip when i pushed the burster straight into mankar

zinc talon
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
coarse birch
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have you not seen that

ripe quest
ripe quest
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Under raytracing

coarse birch
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it was added months ago

hushed knoll
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YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT

royal vortex
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again

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you

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can

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hear

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it

hushed knoll
royal vortex
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yeah you have to play on xbox

hushed knoll
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Can't

ripe quest
hushed knoll
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I didn't hear any of that

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Game glitch, not my fault

coarse birch
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dont believe you

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not enough going on to make crusher silent

royal vortex
hushed knoll
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Evil clown laugh

ripe quest
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I need to get OBS set up to get some better clips lol

coarse birch
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one day josho will burster me and laugh

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and i will be sad

hushed knoll
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Laught

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Spelling fail peepoLaughPoint

zinc talon
coarse birch
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stan

ripe quest
coarse birch
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i do not want to hear it from you

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of all people

hushed knoll
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You didn't hear it

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You read it

coarse birch
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die

hushed knoll
royal vortex
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mankar deserves it

hushed knoll
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Mankar did nothing wrong

coarse birch
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tbf its hard to avoid at times

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like i should have burstered you early i just got lucky he had ED

royal vortex
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i laughed in this clip because of the emotional rollercoaster from im so dead to oh i can sacrifice my teammate for my own gain

hushed knoll
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How did you become so callous

royal vortex
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there was a field improv medkit anyways

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he healed

hushed knoll
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I sacrificed myself to the crusher for the greater good, yet you couldn't do the same?

royal vortex
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what sacrifice u just ignored it for no reason

coarse birch
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also crushers dont dissapear

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when they kill you

royal vortex
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imagine

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reusable poxburster

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only defeated by the bleed shotgun

coarse birch
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imagine

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a different game

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i actually wouldnt hate it that much

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im just being a hater

royal vortex
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i hope they make the bleedinator the meta vet build

coarse birch
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incoming josho "i wish they would let me play marksman vet" rant after they make that change

royal vortex
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shut up

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it's my new favorite build

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(for the next 48 hours)

coarse birch
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i was gonna say

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how long before the gimmick wears off lol

royal vortex
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never

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i simply go back to playing crusher until something else sounds fun

coarse birch
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ngl you seem like an hsword fan these days

full nebula
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anyone have a braced auto build? build around crits?

royal vortex
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ive ran a handful of hsword games

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mostly cuz i had dreg/scab melee kills as contracts so i needed smth that murders bruisers better

coarse birch
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i do enjoy hsword

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i wish i didnt cause its so

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dumb

royal vortex
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i mean u have to hit weakspots at least

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and like the 7 does not have particularly forgiving animations

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so theres some brainpower going on there

calm marten
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so i have some friends getting into darktide

coarse birch
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damn josho you and i had a 12 and a half minute histg today

royal vortex
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do u mean the loss

coarse birch
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nah

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it was a win

royal vortex
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what

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did u crash

coarse birch
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we had a 13 minute one right after

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so i dont think so

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i dont think i crashed mid mission today eitehr

royal vortex
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i do not recall doing a mission in 12 minutes

heavy arch
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wow my pugs take 25min on a good day

coarse birch
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possible the time got messed up

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somehow

heavy arch
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no wonder u ahve so much plasteel

royal vortex
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yea the lowest full time i have is like 18 mins

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i think urs got fucked up

fair igloo
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After learning how to play zealot I can see why so many people play it

coarse birch
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strange

heavy arch
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melee fun

coarse birch
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i have one that was 13 and one that was 12 and half

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oh well

royal vortex
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u have to REALLY try to get sub 19 generally

coarse birch
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as we get sub 19 everytime lol

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tbf i think we mostly run somewhat decently speedy builds

royal vortex
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by like 15 secs doesnt count

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smh

coarse birch
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true

ripe quest
coarse birch
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i mean its still 100x faster than pubs

royal vortex
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yea

coarse birch
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30 minute missions ass

heavy arch
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wish i had dt friends

royal vortex
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the great plasteel hustle involved a lot of 20-25 min games where i had to roomba the map

coarse birch
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the plasteel gains are nice

royal vortex
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while mankar was farming for 1 million kills

coarse birch
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no more 1 weapon an hour

coarse birch
royal vortex
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i was keepin them off u

coarse birch
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you were on the wrong part of the map

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for one of them

royal vortex
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i was on the right part because that is where they were spawning

coarse birch
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oh my bad

royal vortex
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yeah

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glad u can see things from my perspective

coarse birch
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too short down there

royal vortex
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wtf

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i overshot the goal of 60k bleed

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so it was a w in my book

coarse birch
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fr tho its sad how bleed is rn

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barely managing 75k when you did like 500k in a bleed build is unfort

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not that bleed is like the most engaging thing

royal vortex
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the fucked up part is that i had fkin shovel lawbringer

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i dont know how u do more bleed application as a percentage of damage than that

coarse birch
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knife ig

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maybe chainsword

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but like

royal vortex
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chainsword kills too much

coarse birch
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bloodletter also isnt much bleed stacks

royal vortex
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bloodletter is on 1 guy is the issue

coarse birch
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ok what if you got a shit chainsword

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true

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no evis for you either

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probably just knife then

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if you just light

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light spam everything

royal vortex
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but then also u dont really do damage

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unless nobody else is playing

coarse birch
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well if you just trying to maximize bleed uptime on targets

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in terms of practicality its probably what your running

royal vortex
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the truth is most of the meaningful bleed damage was probs the shredders

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😔

coarse birch
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oh for sure

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shredders are like actually good

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it was a difference of like 50 k damage

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for you

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throwing a shredder into a horde actually does something past the initial blast

royal vortex
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that and its not all wasted on fkin poxwalkers

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because u throw them at a bunch of elites

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just kinda sad stuff

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its like u get bleed and then 1 weapon has a talent that does something with bleeding enemies and its a worse precog

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so

misty mason
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Is bleed good now or something?

coarse birch
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no

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thats the joke

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its very mid

misty mason
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Ah good

royal vortex
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i mean its decent if u can get it for free like ogryn

misty mason
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I've been seeing SO many knives recently

coarse birch
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its not something to actually build for

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but like if you can get it its fine

misty mason
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I thought maybe there was new meta or something

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Like a lot of vets with knives

coarse birch
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like scourge on crit builds

misty mason
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Oh yeah my main build uses scourge for CDR

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So theoretically ive been using a bleed build most of the time

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But like, I never actually engage with it as a mechanic

coarse birch
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its just not worth

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you gotta get a bunch of stacks going to actually do anything which is both rng dependant and also usually slower than just actually killing the thing

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its buffed by uncanny which is nice at least

royal vortex
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but u get to scream value when something funny happens

coarse birch
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HUGE value

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massive value

royal vortex
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maybe ill slap twinned blast on this build and make ppl suffer even harder

coarse birch
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i thought you were running it already tbh

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since it was essentially a grenadier build

royal vortex
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i am traumatized

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from the p13 krak incident

coarse birch
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josho its ok

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they changed it

royal vortex
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that shit was so maddening

coarse birch
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thats not how it works anymore

royal vortex
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i could not believe

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for a moment

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anyone had taken that talent on test

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and it was 10% instead of 20%

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1 in 10 chance to have a completely fkin worthless krak

coarse birch
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first time i used it i killed 5 crushers

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idk if i ever did anything with it after that

royal vortex
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i played some dogass builds on vet when p13 came out though tbf

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i was strugglin

coarse birch
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tbf the not dogass builds were like

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plasma gun

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and

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plasma gun

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and the one dumb recon build

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mk6 psword

royal vortex
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not true

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plasma gun was awful until p14

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same with psword

coarse birch
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i thought that was p13

royal vortex
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p13 had stupid recon

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p14 had psword/plasma supremacy

coarse birch
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ah nvm then

royal vortex
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before u could use an iag

coarse birch
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it was probably just abusing all the rending in his tree then lol

royal vortex
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i miss when crouching made the recoil worse

coarse birch
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that would mess with me so bad now

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im so used to crouching

royal vortex
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lmao

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and moving made the recoil on headhunters better

summer moth
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can it be saved

coarse birch
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tbh i didnt use HH pre patch 13 other than the occasional vraks 7

coarse birch
summer moth
coarse birch
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FT dump kills it anyway sadly

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can take executor

hushed knoll
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WOOOOOO

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The smoothie is kicking in

coarse birch
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what kind of smoothie

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is kicking in

hushed knoll
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A strawberry banana

coarse birch
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then what does kicking in mean

summer moth
royal vortex
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he's gonna get a brainfreeze

hushed knoll
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The fruity goodness

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Dude I got so much brainfreeze

coarse birch
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flesh tearer is like the one ok bleed blessing

hushed knoll
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Josho what did you have for dinner

royal vortex
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food

hushed knoll
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That's not an answer

coarse birch
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well

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it is an answer

royal vortex
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it is as much of an answer as you deserve

heavy arch
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theres always been two stans

hushed knoll
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What do you mean

misty mason
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Are you just changing your pfp all willy nilly

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Or is there a plurality of stans

hushed knoll
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The roman soldier is my base pfp

sterile stone
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Like it will show your actual main pfp

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And not your server selected pfp

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It's completely random when it happens aswell.

ornate bone
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People who have a server pfp

steep flame
ornate bone
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I guess they did it for all the times I got mine banned

hushed knoll
steep flame
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why's it so zoomed out

ripe quest
hushed knoll
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My middle name is Value

royal vortex
brisk raft
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Spider ToValuee Stan

hushed knoll
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I inspired Josho

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Such value

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He gets all his good ideas from me

ripe quest
royal vortex
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lmfao

ripe quest
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Like after that first game I probs should've just stuck with a Hsword or Chainsword and kept to it lmao

distant lark
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Zealot still sucks

ripe quest
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The originality is obscene. Never heard that one before.

odd fjord
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How important is First Target on Rashad?

gilded lintel
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Is thunder hammer the only good weapon for doing really high boss damage? I prefer eviserator but I can't seem to do a lot of damage to bosses with it for some reason.

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Is there a particular talent or blessing that makes it more effective?

misty mason
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Thammer is in its own class for boss damage, you can't compare it to others fairly, there are other weapons that do good damage though

gilded lintel
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Speaking of, does revving the eviserator and critting mean each 'tick' of the chainsword triggers a scourge bleed or no?

misty mason
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Caxes do good damage, I think knives do too, but I never use knife so idk

gilded lintel
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Been running this with this eviscerator. But unsure if there's some essential talents I'm missing that work well with eviscerators or a blessing I should watch out for.

inland bluff
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Wrong channel oops

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Am dumb

fleet zealot
inland bluff
ripe quest
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Thammer will do per hit damage best.

dark lily
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New player here; I've picked zealot to be my first 30. Been following the crusher guide with decent success. Is that a decent first build? What would y'all recommend? Every time I see someone dancing circles around me with a knife or something I (probably unwisely) rethink it.

thorn imp
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knife bad

heavy arch
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check pins

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crusher is the easiest melee weapon to craft a decent one of

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so yeh id say thats a good weapon to start on

dark lily
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Cool

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I figured the all-round usefulness would also be good

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I do wish it were more mobile

thorn imp
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Rashad is another option

forest steppe
dark lily
# forest steppe Disagree

A knife and revolver zealot carried a team through a terribly FUBAR mission earlier today. impressed me. But player skill is no doubt a big part of that

thorn imp
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If you are good knife works, but other stuff works better

dark lily
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Yeah, I imagine if you're good you can make almost anything work

thorn imp
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And its like a 0.1% chance of seeing a good knife user, most of them are clueless

steady hearth
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mk3 knife is still kind of meh

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the new mk6 knife is actually nuts

north sedge
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🤔

dense field
dense field
placid hedge
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TWBS with Chaxe on Marty? I can't decide if losing sustained assault or the attack speed node on marty is worth it or not.

fleet zealot
placid hedge
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I just discovered the glory of the mk4 and its my new favorite

steady hearth
# dense field Disagree

its horde clear is truly abysmal and not even zealot talents will save that fact
Mk6 knife however has heavy slashes that greatly improve its performance there compared to stabbing... one... poxwalker... at... a... time

dense field
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Mk6's horde clear is hardly any better

median steeple
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I miss the feeling of being excited for new maps and lore

fleet zealot
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bening able to through in heavies in your horde clear combo is massive

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especially cause they scale even better than the lights do with finesse and related buffs

sterile stone
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Mans stylish

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Something about Aviators and a suit

north sedge
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Alan wake killing it

desert vessel
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thats mfing alan wake, of course hes stylish

dense field
# fleet zealot wdym

The heavy swipe just makes it the second worst melee weapon at horde clear. But clearing is not the reason people run knives in the first place so it's ok.

prime ridge
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worth picking up just to have a chaxe?

north sedge
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Worth a shot with that base

prime ridge
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this is what it became

brisk raft
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Nice stats, blessings and perks though

bleak crystal
north sedge
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Hadroned

prime ridge
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honestly not bothered, just saw it sitting in the shop and figured why not

zealous basin
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ho

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hi

dark lily
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The other hammers look so much better than the crusher 😦

dense field
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Crusher is not a hammer

dark lily
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Ok, Big Blunt Weapons

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or BBWs as I call them

bleak apex
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Anything can be a hammer if you’re ogryn enough

median steeple
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wait

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wtf

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I didnt notice the chainsword till now

hidden verge
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"I trust you are pleased, varlet"

screw you, no thumbsdown_ogryn

dapper mural
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well if you switch the brutal momentum and the critical damage you still got a verry good weapon

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headtaker 4 give you half a percent more per stack so 2.5 percent total so its not a big loss and critical chance is a verry good option in my book on those axe and you lose only one percent there

junior vortex
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Zealot with comms hits different

dapper mural
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what do you mean ^

junior vortex
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Just actually communicating threats to your team.

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Usually comms just means communication.

dapper mural
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haaa well IDK whats the feeling. I talk alone doing that all game every game but never ever get a reply so I ask myself If I am muted and really talking alone

junior vortex
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My teammates heard me.

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I told them where things were and they helped me.

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Survive.

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Some teams are just good at listening.

dapper mural
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I just played a game with a awesome zelot that made me want to build another evicerator, what are your must pic on that ^

junior vortex
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I'm a eviscerator zealot.

dapper mural
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jotunn ?

junior vortex
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Mine is a woman named Severa.

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The Scottish Zealot.

dapper mural
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ok ok it was the name of the zelot ! took a chance

junior vortex
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Scottish Zealot is amazing.

bright atlas
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any crusher fans here?

junior vortex
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No.

dapper mural
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thats my baby

junior vortex
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Hammer is funny.

dapper mural
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I love all 3 hammer but rn crusher is just perfect

junior vortex
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Chain Axe disappoints me.

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It is decent but eviscerator

bright atlas
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I'm a huge hammer simp, but the crusher just seems like the easiest one to work with

dapper mural
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it is

junior vortex
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Tigrus MK II Heavy Eviscerator is beautiful

dapper mural
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its so fast and the move set let you have fun with hit, only downside its the blessing are bad compared to other weapon

junior vortex
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I have bloodletter and rampage on my eviscerator.

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Bloodletter isn't bad genuinely.

bright atlas
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I can't quite tell when to use the ironhelm over crucis, as their powered bonks seem near identical, but while the crusher doesn't onetap a lot of things, it's ability to send everything to the floor with minimal effort is just so great

dapper mural
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how to you roll your tigtus vivide im standing between hadron and the armory rn to build another one XD

junior vortex
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It's rgn so if you upgrade it all the way you can steal perks off it and put it on another one.

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At least one perk you like.

dapper mural
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dont need to one tap, you stagger with it then you just bonk overhead to get the blessing buff and a ton of damage

still quartz
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Otherwise just Crucis if you really want simpler control and bigger bonk damage

junior vortex
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To be honest martyrdom makes it amazing.

dapper mural
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I can beat a crusher wave with all 3 hammer and while its not as cool as with a crusis the crusher maul is way more easy

still quartz
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Power Maul has a lot more stagger and speed so yeah

junior vortex
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Me missing a wound makes me more powerful the lower my health.

still quartz
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Have to rely on skills, teammates, area, or other weapon to deal with bigger Crusher patrols

junior vortex
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Martyrdom is a amazing perk on zealot.

still quartz
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Never forget this is a team game

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Too many people be doing that and wonder why they lose smh

dapper mural
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and I am wondering what would your perfect blessing and perk on a tigrus would be mb if it wasnt clear

still quartz
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Depends, which Evisc?

junior vortex
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I tell my team to constantly group up.

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Tigrus.

bright atlas
still quartz
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Oh right it's only Tigrus Evisc

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Mb

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Rampage and Shred

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Best Blessings since the extra cleave won't let you do damage to more than 4 enemies, although extra cleave does let you stagger more of the horde so stuff like Wrath or Savage Sweep isn't a dead stat

junior vortex
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MK XV and MK II

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The only two eviscerators.

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Rampage and Bloodletter isn't bad either.

still quartz
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Specificaly MK 15 iirc? That's the one with the much simpler moveset but hard cleave limit

bright atlas
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I've also been running the speedy keystone more lately as opposed to martyrdom, and it just feels considerably better. What kind of setups do you fellas use with the bonk weapons?

still quartz
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Cause they will tell you

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That it's a shit Blessing

junior vortex
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MK II is good.

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I like MK II Eviscerator better honestly.

still quartz
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Results are varied, heavily relies on team play

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You will not be a hard solo carry

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Unless you're absolutely cracked or lucky

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But your team will hopefully live longer

junior vortex
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Immolation grenade is amazing.

still quartz
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Molotov grenade hot

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Prefer it over Stun Nades but Stun Nades are much better versus Crusher / Mauler patrols for sure

junior vortex
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Chorus with Ecclesiarch's Call is good.

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The +20 damage is amazing with your eviscerator

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I didn't care about the damage resistance.

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Sounds good but the damage is more useful.

bright atlas
still quartz
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I run it cause I'm a weirdo like that

junior vortex
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The stealth hammer build is better.

still quartz
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700+ hours makes you try out a bunch of random shit for fun xd

junior vortex
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Stealth hammer build is broken.

still quartz
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They did nerf it hard, it can no longer absolutely one-shot a Damnation Plague Ogryn on perfect setup

dapper mural
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well it seem in not building another tigrus today then, already got a 370 with 25 maniac 10 weak spot damage, rampage and momentum 4

still quartz
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But it still does a ton of damage

junior vortex
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I saw a zealot run it the other day and they carried.

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I got carried by a stealth hammer zealot

still quartz
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Still though I'd honestly recommend a standard Fury of the Faithful + Momentum keystone build for Hammers

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Much more consistent

still quartz
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Stealth Hammer is more advanced but better at deleting big guys

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Attack Speed is very good on Hammers, stack up your Thrust Blessing faster

dapper mural
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@still quartz I am at 910 h and I know the feeling lol

bright atlas
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personally not too big of a fan of the stealthhammer. haven't had much success with it, as when there aren't any monsters or crushers up, it feels like you're sort of without an ult

junior vortex
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No wonder I tear apart things I have restoring faith and purge the unclean.

bright atlas
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and you gotta go through the worst part of the zealot tree to get it

junior vortex
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The attack speed boost on eviscerator is good.

dapper mural
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Idk why sul but I Run the OG dash with crusis/ironhealm and shroudfield with my crusher and it work better that way

still quartz
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Purge the Unclean almost a must-have for Thunder Hammers and anything else that has good horde clear potential, free damage and leads into molotov grenades if needed

junior vortex
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I have maniacs and flak on my eviscerator is that good?

dapper mural
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with a 40k glock on the side with ghost4 and deal with sniper, once you got more than 10 stack of the running keystone that mf shoot faster than a recon lasgun

still quartz
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Pretty standard so yeah it's good

junior vortex
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I use the boltgun it's very niche.

dapper mural
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rn yhea

junior vortex
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But it isn't bad at what it does.

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To be honest I only use it for boss fights or on crushers.

still quartz
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Personally I pair my Evisc with a Kantrael Shotgun

bright atlas
still quartz
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Good middle ground between high damage and good snipe potential

junior vortex
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Boltgun isn't bad

dapper mural
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no not at all its just sad it take so long to pull out, so much ammo overall and the recoil patern is all over the place

still quartz
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Boltgun too slow to quickdraw for me

junior vortex
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I snipe people with the boltgun all the time.

still quartz
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Faster I can tap the Trapper running into the horde in an intense situation, the better

junior vortex
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Then again my aim is just decent with jt.

still quartz
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Sometimes allies won't do their job of killing the Specials first for me so I gotta do it myself

dapper mural
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wait a sec sul im taking screenshot

bright atlas
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I treat the boltgun like a better version of the slug shotgun, which is already the best shotgun variant imo

junior vortex
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Trapper being stunned by my chorus that I get back in like ten seconds.

still quartz
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I run Fury of the Faithful so

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Even more attack speed

junior vortex
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I single fire my boltgun.

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It's just more effective that way.

still quartz
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It's meant to be like that

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They nerfed the hipfire a long time ago

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Which sucks ass considering it's a Bolter, that hipfire should be strong xd

junior vortex
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Just give it more recoil then.

#

Don't remove the hip fire.

still quartz
#

They already nerfed the damage

junior vortex
#

Give it more recoil.

#

And damage

still quartz
#

It used to absolutely murderize anything

#

Plasma Gun took its job on Veterans smh

#

I feel like the change Fatshark would do for Bolter just to fuck with us like

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More hipfire damage, sure

#

But reduced ammo pool

#

And maybe even a bit of added recoil

bright atlas
#

bolter's still pretty solid overall imo. I like to LARP as Doomguy by going charge ult and speedy keystone with it

sterile stone
#

I mean it'd make sense to carry less ammo but have it hit hard

still quartz
#

Still strong, just not as much as its former glory

sterile stone
#

It's a big fucken gun

#

With heavy as hell ammo

#

Like bruv

bright atlas
#

there's nothing sillier than bolter randomized hipfire spread imo

sterile stone
#

You're shooting mini rockets

bright atlas
#

at some point you're sniping, at others, it just shoots off into the astral

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the talent node that tightens the spread on ranged weapons on a successful dodge shapes it up a bit

sterile stone
#

Only reasonable solution

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Give Ogryn two bolters

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Let them dual wield it

dapper mural
#

sent you the build in PM suls

bright atlas
#

thanks, man 👈😎👈

dapper mural
#

its not perfect but its fun as hell

#

np have fun

ivory pumice
junior vortex
#

I like being a crusader

sterile stone
#

I ws gonna post the "She said it was either me or the dodge build....God I miss her" but I can't find it.

ripe quest
bright atlas
#

i'm hoping you tell me how

silk sail
#

Piety Manstopper I'd imagine

bright atlas
#

is manstopper the blessing that gives the slug shotty ungodly cleave?

empty quarry
#

Have you had good results with the Vraks Headhunter?

#

The one in the store today looks really great.

ripe quest
#

It'll 1 shot Maulers and below in a line.

#

w/ Maulers you either need Duellist up or Anoint to be active for them though.

dense field
#

Also manstopper works with throwing knives whatthefuck_heresy

silk sail
#

is it actually unlimited cleave?

bright atlas
dense field
bright atlas
#

LMFAO WJAY

#

what*

ripe quest
bright atlas
#

dude wielding depleted uranium railroad spikes over there

ripe quest
#

A notable thing about that video is I have 5 stacks of scattershot up, and they won't drop when landing a knife

#

so it's a free 60% crit chance for them

bright atlas
#

schway.

ripe quest
#

If you do this though I'd recommend only Lawby and Agri, they're more finesse leaning than the Kant is.

#

+Kant already gets an unlimited cleave attack for free so nodders

bright atlas
#

i had a miserable time with the kant. I think I was running full bore and scattershot, with unyielding and flak for perks.

#

but i fucking love shotguns in games, so.

silk sail
#

does knife benefit from bm

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and does it stack with manstopper knife

ripe quest
#

It does but it's not really that great

#

It wouldn't be possible to notice it stacking with a Manstopper throwing knife

#

You have to have the shotgun out too

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Only one effect would be active.

lethal totem
#

the less stability the more fun it is

silk sail
#

I'm guessing BM shenanigans with ranged slot melee attacks doesn't apply in this case

zinc talon
dense field
#

It's a big deal

ripe quest
#

Actually it doesn't seem that the throwing knives inherit Brutal Momentum.

bright atlas
#

that's good to know. hopefully it'll start one-tapping things.

dusky mountain
#

anyone know if disciple of imperius faith hood in the commodores vestures changes the characters voice?

fading vale
ripe quest
#

something something one is programmed to be complex and designed with the weapon in mind and the other is Brutal Momentum

fading vale
#

not that I think they should inherit BM though

ripe quest
#

I'd rather it inherit BM than it inherit Man-Stopper.

fading vale
#

eh

#

manstopper is mostly memeing and pretty suboptimal anyways

#

so at least you are giving something up, but yeah you could scattershot manstopper

lavish flame
#

On a kantrael shotty it seems meh though

#

Fireshot is already inf clev

fading vale
#

it is

heady sinew
#

Does anyone have a bleed damage table

fading vale
#

it's also meh on lawbringer imo, I never needed more cleave on the special

open pollen
#

Living my best life:

fading vale
open pollen
#

Only .5 shy of max stam!

zinc talon
heady sinew
dense field
#

Heretical indeed

ripe quest
zinc talon
lethal totem
dense field
#

Cursed

ripe quest
#

Railgun build only uses the slug w/ the shroudfield shots since it 1 shots more elites

zinc talon
lethal totem
zinc talon
fading vale
#

do deathblow and BM actually inherit the same code

#

or is it copied and pasted

ripe quest
ripe quest
fading vale
#

just a curiosity really

#

would be funny if they are duplicating code between those two

#

oh did you see what Tyr said about tension the other day

ripe quest
#

So the defining code would just be used by both

fading vale
#

that makes sense given in theory you would want to override BM parameters for weapon balance

#

not that they do that

pale kelp
#

If I have the Mk XV heavy evisc. How many enemies can I cleave with the Perfect Strike blessing? Enough as to not have to worry about it?

(I heard the Mk II Thammer can only hit 3 people at a time, and was wondering if the eviscerator had something similar)

ripe quest
fading vale
#

the hammer stuff was changed a while back

pale kelp
fading vale
#

perfect strike is 0.25 hitmass modifier and ignore carapace stop

#

but

#

new evis lights are limited to damaging 4 targets

pale kelp
#

Well thats not great. I should probably swap it for something else in that case...

fading vale
#

so basically all it allows is for you to light spam crushers kind of

pale kelp
#

Thanks!

ripe quest
pale kelp
#

If the Mk XV is limited to 4 enemies at a time, what does cleave do? Increase damage to the enemies after the 1st?

fading vale
#

hammer no longer has a cleave damage target cap, not that it does a ton of cleave damage but it is serviceable

ripe quest
#

It's just CC.

fading vale
#

cleave means you cleave through more hitmass

#

a poxwalker is 1.5 hitmass, maniac rager is 6

pale kelp
#

Ahh

ripe quest
#

The target cap means it just damages up to 4 enemies, beyond that it'll stagger.

fading vale
#

so it allows you to swing through more stuff

#

no effect on damage

pale kelp
#

Thats nice. I like swinging through more stuff

ripe quest
#

So on the Mk XV if you grab SS or Wrath you have ~33 cleave to throw around.

#

on the lights

pale kelp
#

Mm

fading vale
#

still have no idea why those lights have more cleave than mk2 heavy

ripe quest
#

Fun in mixed hordes since it'll be a bit more safe

ripe quest
pale kelp
ripe quest
#

If you rev the Mk II the H1 has the same cleave as the Mk XV's lights too

fading vale
#

it's hard to understand their balance of heavy and light attacks sometimes

#

I suppose it's gotten better though

ripe quest
#

imo with how many total weapons they are, the V2 system is too limiting to balance some of this stuff.

#

Gotta make some cool unique mechanics n whatnot

#

Goes for guns too

fading vale
#

marks are too samey for me

ripe quest
#

There's only so many times you can do the 'this one has higher totals, this one has higher burst, and this one has the highest per shot' thing + it's not even that cool since one of those is currently preferred with the ammo economy rn

#

with ranged weapons it doesn't need to be Shotgun levels but they should add some personality to the variants. I like that the Graia Brauto has both the worst and the best burst DPS the Brautos can provide depending on if you're bracing or not.

#

The Agri Revolver kinda has it too, just a different vibe that fits well

fading vale
#

yeah at least shotguns are pretty different weapons

#

if only the agri revolver wasn't just outclassed by nearly everything

ripe quest
#

But like Lasguns, IAGs, 2/3 of the Brautos, kinda even the Laspistols just are the same weapon but with numbers tuning and a different model.

fading vale
#

news bulletin when

ripe quest
#

One day I'll get a good Agri setup and I'll show the world door

lavish flame
#

IAGs i find vary a fair bit due to how they kick

#

And Headhunters deffo are very diff

south folio
#

i hope the zarona is the medium variant so we get a heavy variant that's a single action

ripe quest
# lavish flame And Headhunters deffo are very diff

The IAGs it's literally just a numbers tuning thing though. I don't think they need to be crazy different, them and lasguns are like standard models or whatever. HH are kinda on the line of it because the difference is just how much you burst.

lavish flame
ripe quest
south folio
#

cartwheels

ripe quest
lavish flame
ripe quest
lavish flame
#

Mm fair

rocky marsh
#

exhil

#

am i supposed to knopw how to solo small amt of zombies + 2 crusher + 2 rager?

umbral kindle
#

With what and where

#

mostly yes, unless it's just a super tight space and your screwed

rocky marsh
#

corridor big enough for 4 crushers

#

im running caxe and kant

#

wound

#

i would use throwing knife on the rages but sometime zombie block

umbral kindle
#

With that kind of loadout I would just run around and try pick things off while keeping distance from the crushers (if space permits)

#

Run back to a more open area of the map if necessary

#

What combat ability?

rocky marsh
#

chatise

#

quick question, is crowd control on crusher weapon a dump stat?

oak ermine
#

It increases the attack swing speed

rocky marsh
#

mine is 58%

vestal coyote
#

Okay where the hell do I find the crazy weapon modification mod

#

Fuck it

#

I am finally gonna go for it

rocky marsh
#

the modding discord

#

look for extended extended weapon customization(? or customizability) mod

rocky marsh
#

also how does skull crusher stack?

vestal coyote
rocky marsh
#

just google it dude

oak ermine
vestal coyote
#

Okay jeez

rocky marsh
#

weird*

vestal coyote
#

Thank you

rocky marsh
#

it says last 5 seconds, but i remember it only work when the target is in the stagger animation

ripe quest
oak ermine
#

If it expires, and the enemy can act again, the debuff goes away

#

If there is a duration for the debuff, it only matters if the target is in staggered state for 5+ seconds

fading vale
#

the debuff is persistent for the listed time but the effect doesn't apply unless they are wobbling or on the floor more or less

rocky marsh
#

all while dodgign crusher and hoping that some zombie don't block you ;-;

rocky marsh
ripe quest
fading vale
rocky marsh
#

ok thanks guys

#

another quick question, for crusher weapon, defences the only dump stat?

oak ermine
fading vale
#

for kant special ads or hipfire just depends on the mixed horde and what distance you are trying to shoot

ripe quest
fading vale
#

bunch of melee elites or bulwarks in front of you? spam several hipfire specials

#

shooting far at an approaching horde? ads

rocky marsh
fading vale
#

or shooting far at packs of stuff

vestal coyote
#

Do I have to have for the drip to use the weapon customization stuff?

oak ermine
#

I.e., Defences mostly doesn’t matter

fading vale
fading vale
ripe quest
#

It's slight, not a big difference

rocky marsh
fading vale
dusky mountain
#

does this mask change your voice like the scion helmet?

rocky marsh
#

don't know if its weapon stat or crusher even at decent amount of crowd control will feel slow

fading vale
#

that crusher is plenty good

rocky marsh
#

^ this was what i was runnin g

#

damn, zealot is a hard class

vestal coyote
#

Doesn't modulate it

oak ermine
#

These few % missing from CC are not the deal-breaker

rocky marsh
#

can't just left click to win like psyker Sitgryn

fading vale
#

you can if you use a caxe or hsword

oak ermine
#

If you want to min-max, then there’s always opportunity for looking for a better one

rocky marsh
dusky mountain
#

thanks tho

vestal coyote
#

Yeah of course

fading vale
#

but caxe is perhaps the most boring weapon known to man

vestal coyote
#

Don't want someone to waste their aquilas

rocky marsh
#

then i faced the 2 crusher and 2 ragerr + some zombies

rocky marsh
#

;-;

fading vale
#

the ragers are faster than crushers so just light spam the ragers down and then heavy the crushers

rocky marsh
#

like a kid who ran too far

#

now he got ssxcared

royal vortex
#

or u suffer the consequences

fading vale
#

I mean

#

spacing

royal vortex
#

no i mean literally if u want to hit them u have to push attack into 1 or 2 lights

#

or ur gonna take unnecessary damage

rocky marsh
#

yeah but the rager going to synchronize, which is very annoying
most likely this is what will happen

i chatise, crusher starts OH swing, i left click the rager twice, after my first left click the other crusher also start his OH
and after first leflt click, other rager wakes up

fading vale
#

what's a little damage amongst friends

ripe quest
fading vale
#

I hipfire special a lot and typically just ads when stuff is far enough away

oak ermine
#

Karking hel, why did I forget I have this thing in my inventory

#

I also never really committed to the crusher

rocky marsh
#

would any of you be so kind

#

to show a takedown vid
josho, lazorr or exhil

fading vale
#

this is why you run marty caxe, who cares about taking damage when you can minmax m1 spam

ripe quest
rocky marsh
#

the 2/3 crusher 2 rager and some zombies

rocky marsh
fading vale
#

I feel like a couple crushers, a couple ragers, and some poxwalkers is not a hard situation

rocky marsh
#

yeah cause you are top 1% zealot

#

i am top 50%

ripe quest
#

It's easier in a hallway when everything is lined up

fading vale
#

you could even chastise and kill both crushers with the shotgun

ripe quest
#

mhm

rocky marsh
fading vale
#

in a hallway you can just kant special a few times

ripe quest
#

It might be a preference thing but enemies will try to surround you and it's annoying as shit to position with it

fading vale
#

press F, then clean up crushers

ripe quest
#

so if they're just infront of me I can spam them

royal vortex
#

i mean straight up if ur just melee u don't let them corner u

#

2 crushers should never overhead you regardless of timing

rocky marsh
#

hmmmm

#

ima try it in psk now

rocky marsh
#

click

rocky marsh
fading vale
#

for crushers specifically you would build burn stacks first

#

and then press F

rocky marsh
#

do yu have any sort of bind to spawn ten at once or somethijg?

rocky marsh
ripe quest
#

No I just sit there for 15 minutes pressing the spawn key catyes

fading vale
#

I macro spawning 10 at once

hushed knoll
fading vale
rocky marsh
hushed knoll
#

Hi Laz

#

Hi exhil

ripe quest
#

Hello stanular

fading vale
hushed knoll
#

I am not stanular

dusky mountain
#

anyone have a flamer build? with skill tree

ripe quest
rocky marsh
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
#

You need to get hit with sciatica seeds

rocky marsh
hushed knoll
#

Hell yeah

ripe quest
hushed knoll
ripe quest
#

You know it's bad when the first response is "oh is that a dead thing"

rocky marsh
#

i don't think it looks disgusting
i think your photography skills make it look disgusting KEKW_ogryn

hushed knoll
#

That’s pre-mash

ripe quest
#

I thought Stan posted the wrong thing lmao

hushed knoll
#

You mash it like mashed potatoes

fading vale
#

microwaved ice cream and apple pie and you mash it

#

the fuck bro

hushed knoll
#

Yup

rocky marsh
#

huh

royal vortex
#

are you feeding this to a baby?

hushed knoll
#

It’s better that way

fading vale
rocky marsh
#

stan is the baby

dusky mountain
hushed knoll
#

I am a 29 year old mob

#

Man

rocky marsh
fading vale
ripe quest
dusky mountain
#

thats sad :(

royal vortex
#

ive never been so mildly disrespected so hard

ripe quest
#

Technically only 2 talents are needed for that

rocky marsh
#

also time to try

ripe quest
#

With anything that isn't DoT related you ult and then shoot

rocky marsh
#

i managed to kill the two ragers

polar nexus
ripe quest
#

So if you stack burn, you want to ult after the burn is stacked. With something like a Boltgun you'd ult and then start firing normally, if you want to save the like .3 seconds you could start firing and then ult while firing.

#

I'm fairly sure you can just start shooting as you ult though, haven't looked at specific timings

dusky mountain
rocky marsh
#

i did it but the second life thing needed to proc

#

its hard to do it without twbs,
the zombies hitting me got me out of a heavy

#

esp since the quick swing of crusher deals like 40% toughness

ripe quest
#

You stack the burn and then ult.

#

It'll be about half your mag to stack that much burn.

dusky mountain
rocky marsh
#

Ngl if i could give up as much as space in psk its quite easy, but i want to try not giving up that much space

#

sometime don't have that much space

ripe quest
#

Only blessing that matters is Blaze Away rn

#

Other ones are minor damage buffs or random utility stuff

dusky mountain
#

what iirc?

rocky marsh
#

if i rememebr correctly

dusky mountain
#

im dumb thinking its some term in game

rocky marsh
#

not really :v

#

would make sense

lone pecan
#

In a world of EWEW and TWBS it makes sense, yes KEKW_ogryn

rocky marsh
#

I GOT EET

#

after like 10 tries tho :v

#

no second life proc

ripe quest
#

It'll depend on the situation. Biggest danger has priority, 2 Crushers on their own are kinda teddy bear like.

royal vortex
#

2 crushers on their own are a chance for VALUE

rocky marsh
#

like i can do it in psk, but i don't know how to do it wihout giving up much space

#

any advice for that

#

how come josho don

#

t reply to me anymore

#

so sad

rocky marsh
dusky mountain
#

how does the ammo system work does the higher percentage more max ammo or just more in the clip?

#

mean*

lone pecan
#

Both

rocky marsh
umbral kindle
#

There are some exceptions

lone pecan
#

Ah, yes for those I guess it would stay the same,

rocky marsh
#

i think grenade gauntlet as well

umbral kindle
#

99% of weapons it's both

#

Rumbler/Kickback are always 1 as well

royal vortex
#

it just depends on the weapon

umbral kindle
#

Oh wait Kickback doesn't have an ammo stat anyway

#

Or revolver

royal vortex
#

and some have different numbers where u gain 1 ammo reserve but not in the mag

#

such as kant shotgun

#

at 79 you have 9/60 and at 80 you have 9/61

silk sail
#

just to clarify, Chastise is pointless for boosting Kant's special rounds yes

umbral kindle
#

Depends how the percentages round

silk sail
#

aside from the dot damage that is

dusky mountain
#

is it a major difference for flamer been only going using flamers with high ammo percentage

lone pecan
#

So ammo stat increases ammo in the mag and reserve, but it just might not be a big enough increase to actually round up to anything KEKW_ogryn

dusky mountain
#

damn

rocky marsh
#

imagine revolvo have 15 ammo in clip/mag/drum

dusky mountain
#

this is my current weapon dont know if i should change the perks or the blessings (dont have blaze away sadly)

lone pecan
dusky mountain
#

also hers my hammer pretty sure i fucked it up

lone pecan
#

I would wait until lvl 30 to invest in weapons, but I am also poor, so

rocky marsh
fading vale
placid fiber
lone pecan
#

For now whatthefuck_heresy

placid fiber
#

It will last another 5 levels xD

dusky mountain
#

i only play ogryn and zealot my ogryn is alreay maxed so i just have these resources piling up

placid fiber
#

ngl I do that for new characters, even tho I have jack shit for plasteel and dockets

rocky marsh
dusky mountain
#

idk what that is but ig

placid fiber
#

it's an ogryn ranged weapon

dusky mountain
#

i finished all the penance thing

#

for ogryn

placid fiber
#

It's a weapon, not a penance lol

dusky mountain
#

oh the hand thing

placid fiber
dusky mountain
#

dont even use the thing only time i do if im role playing as a body guard with shield

rocky marsh
#

yeah, you need a god roll for it to 1 tap muties

dusky mountain
#

rock

placid fiber
#

beats scissors

quaint verge
#

Sad update

placid fiber
#

oh you mean the big friendly rock

quaint verge
placid fiber
#

I wonder if Stan knows how to take notes

dusky mountain
#

rock is best frien

placid fiber
#

ngl that's my favorite blitz on ogryn

hushed knoll
quaint verge
placid fiber
hushed knoll
#

No

quaint verge
#

I can't be arsed to change name in this

hushed knoll
#

How is Denmark life Anngak

placid fiber
#

Do you know how to make a turkey, american cheese, and mayonaise sandwhich Stan?

hushed knoll
#

God blueberry muffins blow major ass

quaint verge
#

Wet and snowy

hushed knoll
#

With poultry

placid fiber
hushed knoll
placid fiber
#

What if I microwaved the cheese?

#

It wouldn't be cold then

hushed knoll
#

Melted American is fine especially on eggs

#

Cold American is fine on eggs too

#

When I make egg sandwiches I don't let it melt

placid fiber
#

What about skittles?

#

Are they good cold?

quaint verge
hushed knoll
#

Why would you eat hot skittles

placid fiber
#

good question

quaint verge
#

Go ahead and dive headfirst into the mixture of exhaust dirt and slush PePeW

placid fiber
#

Good to know even you are not enough of a psychopath to eat warm skittles

hushed knoll
#

Are warm skittles even a thing

hushed knoll
#

My car looks so fucking dirty from the road salt

placid fiber
hushed knoll
#

I bet you are a warm skittles enjoyer

placid fiber
#

🤢

hushed knoll
#

Ew I hate that emoji

quaint verge
placid fiber
#

It describes my exact thoughts on warm skittles

ember yew
#

5gb hotfix

#

meh

#

was thinking its a new patch

placid fiber
#

I made breakfast >.>

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
placid fiber
#

It's a cold lunch meat sandwhich >.>

hushed knoll
#

Why is there so much bread

placid fiber
#

I have 3 sandwiches

hushed knoll
#

Oh

placid fiber
#

cuz I am hungry x.x

#

I am excited cause I get to go back to work today :3

#

I've had like a month off x.x

hushed knoll
#

You want to go back to work?

placid fiber
#

Yeah, I love my job

hushed knoll
#

Oh nice

#

What do you do

placid fiber
#

I primarily work the grill at a Jersey Mike's

hushed knoll
#

Oh nice

#

Sounds like it would be stressful for me

placid fiber
#

I've adapted my skills to work any position, tho