#zealot-class

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zinc talon
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surreal to say that

coarse birch
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simply always use momentum

royal vortex
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blazing piety hs7 is a build from the messiah crab

zinc talon
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I went crit / rage / crit cooldown reduction on a lark

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pairs well with the bible thump at least

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can shave ten seconds off your cd in a good swing

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but I'm missin momentum's move speed for sure

coarse birch
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blazing piety hsword is very likely better

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i can english

royal vortex
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blazing piety on hsword feels weird cuz i can hardly get scourge to proc

coarse birch
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yeah scourge isnt gonna do much sadly

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you kinda just kill everything

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and you want headshots anyway

royal vortex
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i wish zealot's crit wasn't tied to 1 talent and 1 keystone path

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it should be more spread out like vet

zinc talon
coarse birch
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also josho werent you gonna shower

zinc talon
royal vortex
coarse birch
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i need to GAME

royal vortex
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no darktide match is complete without bitching about something

coarse birch
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true

zinc talon
modern quail
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is overpressure blessing on the flamer still not working on burn damage?

zinc talon
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it feels like it does to me but the math nerds say no it's still broken

mental coral
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What a based take

north sedge
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It does not work

mental coral
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Wait when did they break overpressure on flames

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How did they break overpressure on flamer

spare dome
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i dont know that it ever worked

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i use it anyway lol

torn stream
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how're y'all?

mental coral
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Please don’t tell me zealots have been slapping overpressure on their flamer for over a year and it just didn’t work the entire time

spare dome
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probably

north sedge
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It's coded as ranged power so it only applies to the stream and not the burn

torn stream
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actually wait, I totally agree with reworking Survivalist and Chorus tho

sharp zodiac
still quartz
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Nah, rework Smoke Nades

mental coral
still quartz
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Make that into a team Stealth ez

modern quail
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blaze away works with the burn damage though i think

north sedge
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Yes blaze away works just fine

south wren
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y all think i got enough cleave?

modern quail
zinc talon
still quartz
sharp zodiac
still quartz
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So yes, you have enough

south wren
still quartz
south wren
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i need savage sweep t4

still quartz
south wren
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see you get it

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idk man feels nice to get 15s cdr from 1 light attack in a horde ngl

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spam fury of the faithful every 2 attacks

still quartz
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xd

north sedge
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Nice brick of a mk15

still quartz
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Good

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It is meant to do great things

zinc talon
sharp zodiac
zinc talon
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fuckin sore loser mission director

ripe quest
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It'll affect the direct and burn damage yeah. Sadly because it's also attack speed there's negative synergy, I think it's still a net gain though.

still quartz
open pollen
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Been meming around with a stamina build, and I must say, it's quite fun to stand in the middle of a combustion nade while a horde of ragers flail in futility trying to get through your block.

mossy scarab
royal vortex
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@coarse birch i return

zinc talon
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this fuckin mutant scared me so bad I yelped

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jumped so hard my knees hit the desk

coarse birch
zinc talon
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not there not there not there kissin the back of your neck

sharp zodiac
zinc talon
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I have lerndt a ting

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dogs, pounce in a sequence

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one by one

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once that order is determined they're stuck to it

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so dog packs will always pounce pack leader to last in line

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they spread out a bit before they do

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but now I know the order they'll jump

zinc talon
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heh

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dogs quickly becoming my favorite enemy to fight

merry spade
# ripe quest

I'm going to assume you need your character to be as short as possible for that...

ripe quest
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My Zealot is fairly tall

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I think I maxed it out

distant lark
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Zealot sucks

merry spade
ripe quest
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barring any weird dog stuff it should work yeah

sharp zodiac
merry spade
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Good to know, about half my lost quick-play runs are from a random dog grabbing me while I'm trying to rescue my teamates

sharp zodiac
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Like a god damn eject chair

distant lark
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Just kill doggy

ripe quest
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Can't have that.

zinc talon
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well that's kinda anti climactic

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dogs gave so much physics defying shit for so long

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now they're all ordered and streamlined

merry spade
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Try adding in a couple of trappers and a conga-line of pox-bursters to keep track of

zinc talon
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heh I was just riding the high from home running like 4 dogs mid pounce last job

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so I spawned some to get the timing down on the crusher

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and bing, the behavior pattern clicked as I was fighting em

tacit bronze
zinc talon
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lol

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they go in sequence based on distance at aggro

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and repeat that sequence

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if one dies, the ones behind it move up one spot

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but it's just ABCD ABCD ABCD ACD AD A

still quartz
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Me, too small brain to think about it:

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"haha push attack go brr"

tacit bronze
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until you have teammates around and you catch a pounce meant for them...

zinc talon
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this could mean when a dog pack spawns

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each person has their 3 or 4 dogs gunning for them

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at least on the initial charge

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I don't htink so, I think they charge without a target until they break line of sight then aggro based on distance

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so if you step out in front of a dog pack

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with your shield up

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heroically

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handsomely

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those dogs will pounce in order and repeat that order until killed or I'm tackled

native cargo
still quartz
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Nah not even daily

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Half-hourly basis

native cargo
timber hound
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is mobility that low a problem?

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I feel like the one is the right one

north sedge
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Not really

spare dome
timber hound
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isn't mobility dump stat?

spare dome
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columnus has some of the best sprint mobility for a ranged weapon

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i wouldnt totally dump it

north sedge
native cargo
spare dome
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just pouchy

open pollen
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Happy Mondo' Fellow Zealos

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Crossing my fingers we get a nice Comms or at least a shop refresh this week. Crossing them so hard, they've melded into a singular, large finger.

spare dome
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a central finger

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middle, perhaps, if you will

open pollen
# zinc talon

Hey, since you've been practicing, is it possible to slide under a dog pounce?

ivory marlin
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Hi zealot chat

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How we doing today

open pollen
# spare dome a central finger

I crossed my pointer and middle, and my pinkie and ring. Then I crossed the two subsequent fingers into one Big Chungus. Now I am just thumb and chungus.

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Most folks can do finger guns. I can only do finger cannon.

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The Desert Eagle of Fingies

spare dome
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Desert Feagle .50AE

spare dome
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"ow fuck my fingies"

zealous basin
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guys iuhh

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ummmm erm uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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fubbbbb!!!! :DDDDX

royal vortex
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gunker is terrible

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one of those downs was me hitting a poxburster in a door and then getting an instant sniper shot from a laser i couldnt see

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the other was my fault

coarse birch
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That sniper spot was fucked up

royal vortex
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that was one of those ones where its like

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u dont know until u know

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and by knowing i mean getting fkin DOMED

ripe quest
coarse birch
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I cannot fight ragers today

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Im like

royal vortex
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u cant make me install ovenproof

coarse birch
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0 for 3

royal vortex
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i was doing so good and then i backed myself into a corner at 90 peril

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and its just like yeah its ogre

open pollen
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I wish gunker had more blue talents to synergize with. But Psyker needs more blue talents in general.

ripe quest
royal vortex
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i mean the assail stuff is really cool

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it's a type of gameplay none of the other classes really do like assail does

sharp zodiac
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Lvl th gun

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z2

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Boom

open pollen
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Luna, you feeling alright?

royal vortex
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drunk

coarse birch
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I need to try that laspistol on psyker havent made one yet

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Game refuses to give me the deimos i want

open pollen
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I thought the French had poison resistance as a starting trait?

ripe quest
royal vortex
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i didnt even know which laspistol i had until i loaded in and saw the recoil lmfao

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they really do just let me choose a random loadout

sharp zodiac
open pollen
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The difference is very slight.

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I was dissappointed with the heavy las pistol myself. It's not bad, but it's not what I was hoping for.

ripe quest
royal vortex
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it's alright

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i like it but also the recoil on it is jarring as fuck

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the noise is cool

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but my gun probs shouldnt jerk to the left lmao

ripe quest
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I dislike the recoil's vibe since it doesn't even affect the aim, it's literally just a visual jerk

open pollen
ripe quest
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It's a fun weapon though, hit hard make brain go big

royal vortex
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the higher stagger on it is p pog

ripe quest
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Does the Mk X open bulwarks if you hit them?

coarse birch
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Im a big fan of it

open pollen
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Those photons must really be blastin' outta there.

royal vortex
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itll keep a bulwark staggered

little thicket
ripe quest
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very cool

royal vortex
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but it will not open it from the front

little thicket
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This is the blessing pool for flamer

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where tf is inspireing barrage

spare dome
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t4

little thicket
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Its t4 only?'

ripe quest
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mhm

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much like how Blaze Away is T3 only

open pollen
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A questionable choice, if you ask me. I think they should do a DBD and tack on some mild stat change and fill in the missing tiers.

ripe quest
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They should just remove tiers

open pollen
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That would also work. But I like collecting stickers

ripe quest
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Or make them like, level specific

open pollen
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Or! You can level them up with diamantine!

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Please... someone take my diamantine

ripe quest
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Oh wow let's level up everything with diamantine

open pollen
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I went to IKEA the other day and they had furniture made from the stuff

obtuse stirrup
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Little question

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what do I want on an eviscerator xv?

open pollen
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Rampage, I think. I am also a fan of "Rev it up" but that's not very meta, I assume.

obtuse stirrup
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and would you recommend it over the other chain weapons

ripe quest
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Rampage + Anything except Rev it Up, Bloodletter, and Perfect Strike

north sedge
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But i have twice as much plasteel as i do diamantine!

little thicket
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ok i found inspireing barrage

open pollen
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I have a medical condition! I gotta go fast

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Vroom Vroom

ripe quest
coarse birch
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Kinda depends on what you want

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Wouldnt say its for sure better than other chain weapons

open pollen
obtuse stirrup
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What perks do you usually go with for it?

ripe quest
obtuse stirrup
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flakiac?

zinc talon
coarse birch
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Yeah they all kinda fall into the same spot meta wise

ripe quest
zinc talon
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elites prolly pays more dividends for you at this moment though

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the XV isn't exactly a slouch when it comes to heavy rev damage without any crusher stats

coarse birch
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Its still close to a one shot ye

ripe quest
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Well it depends on the Crusher BP. The entire setup is no longer great when you miss the BP.

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If you're running like, Ramp + Shred then it's whatever.

zinc talon
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womp womp

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thinkin about building a shred 5% crit 10% crit damage tigrus 2

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cuz the damage increases are so bonkers

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it's like 280 to 550 to 1080

ripe quest
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seeing "womp womp" followed by that is so funny

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also do not do that

copper hawk
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Slurp

spare dome
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yea dont do that lmao

spare dome
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the strikedown lights are indeed super underrated

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but you only really need duelist, and it only has the super funny numbers against flak armor

obtuse stirrup
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I tend to prefer blazing piety on my zealot builds

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braindead and safe

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and gives lots of Fs

zinc talon
obtuse stirrup
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appeals to my angry chimp on meth style

zinc talon
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my thinking is

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if you're already at like 90% crit

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all you gotta do is aim face

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and since I'm doing that anyway

obtuse stirrup
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oh btw I just wanna call out another zealot on my team just now on auric maelstrom who chad Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude'd a chaos spawn off the bridge after 2 of us got ledge yeeted by a poxburster earlier in the match

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revenge feels good man

balmy chasm
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Is this good or usable?

zinc talon
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scoreboard's telling me my actual weakspot hit rate is just under 50%

spare dome
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pffft

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weak

zinc talon
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so that means every other hit, I'm weakspot critical-ing

spare dome
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i only have the scoreboards of streamers to look at for myself, lmao

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whenever i queue with them

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but im at an astonising 70%

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people do not headshot enough in general

zinc talon
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keep your shred and bleed up and it's very doable

spare dome
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its also like blocking, the game ends and ill have 20-30 blocks and the next runner up will have like, 4

open pollen
spare dome
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and you know it was from when they picked someone up

zinc talon
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welp I only swap off crusher to play with chain weapons

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so I know a ting er tew about taykum mayse hiddum fayse

ripe quest
zinc talon
open pollen
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Fair enough.

zinc talon
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didn't have shred on this one

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but that's every other hit, double or more damage vs a body hit

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every fourth hit, quadruple to 10x

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I do not see why this would be an undesirable setup

open pollen
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Is there a max amount of stamina you can have?

zinc talon
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3 stam x 3 + 2 base + weapon + talents

open pollen
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What weapon has the highest base stam?

spare dome
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ogryns

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shovel?

ripe quest
spare dome
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i think

open pollen
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I mean for Zealot.

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knife?

ripe quest
frozen ibex
zinc talon
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oh

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ok valid maybe not ten

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was firing from the hip

spare dome
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tbh i have no idea which zealot weapon has the best stam

zinc talon
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but these double to triple to quadruple

spare dome
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those are all mostly triple

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double to triple

ripe quest
# zinc talon

wait no why are you considering the lights for that

spare dome
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s'why you only really need duelist

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50% on any of those numbers and you are laughing your way through dreg and scabs alike

ripe quest
hidden verge
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running zealot with heavy eviscerator, martyrdom and shaving heads is fun lol

zinc talon
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what do you mean?

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if I'm already registering the critical damage spot on the damage table from my talent build and evis buffs

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all I have to do, is target the weakspot while I crit

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and bam, I've gone from white damage to critical weakspot

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my crit rate is already something bonkers, 30% from bleed 20% from shred 5% natural 4% perk 25% from rage talents

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84%?

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so aim face do critical weakspot damage four times outta five

coarse birch
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@royal vortex i return

zinc talon
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that is quite the jump in damage output

coarse birch
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sorry that took longer than expected

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if you are still gaming

royal vortex
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sure

zinc talon
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I can come too if yall have the space

ripe quest
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Like on paper, lets assume you're running a crit setup on Evis. 85% crit chance since you're running +5% crit or whatever. Assuming Flak H1, on a body shot you tap into a 85% damage bonus 85% of the time, on a weakspot you tap into a 54% damage bonus 85% of the time (72% and 46% avg damage increases).

hidden verge
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hardon screwed up my ax again 😭

ripe quest
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You could just swap perks, a bit rough though.

ripe quest
coarse birch
zinc talon
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feels pretty solid to me

zinc talon
coarse birch
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either works

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whats your steam ID i can add you

zinc talon
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my number's in my name but on steam I'm DangerMagnet

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oh 1sdec

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they streamlined this

coarse birch
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ohyeah i forgot i can add through FS

ripe quest
# zinc talon

That's a fine showcase of the single target damage yeah. That's not the bad part of the crit build. It falls off when you cleave so against groups of enemies that 85% and 54% damage bonus fall off.

zinc talon
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sent you my steam code

zenith hornet
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I kinda hate the female not-agitator-or-judge zealot voice

coarse birch
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sent

zenith hornet
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I have the modulator thing

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and it just kinda sounds eh

royal vortex
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i only really like the voice mod cosmetics on ogryn

zinc talon
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my fatshark code's in my name and sent you my steam

zenith hornet
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Never heard voice mods on ogryn

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I wish I had the helmet for it tho

royal vortex
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the chem-safe rebreather makes u sound like a very angry cyborg

coarse birch
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love that headpiece

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need to get it next time it rotates in

brave iris
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what do you even -do- with the Heavy Swords special attack?

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or heck what do you do with the heavy swords?

spare dome
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hit ragers with it

obtuse stirrup
ember yew
obtuse stirrup
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presuming you're using a heavy sword with an overhead H1 like my mark IX

ripe quest
brave iris
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what is "special block canceling"

ember yew
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block cancel the string on combo attack

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if you use heavy and then block and heavy again

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you will spam vertical attack (example)

spare dome
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its cool tech that only sexy people can use

brave iris
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i mean... even the special seem to do pretty piddly damage against carapace at least in the psykanium

ember yew
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You press Chastice and shoot crusher for 3 seconds, when he got armor debuff

spare dome
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just bolber them in the face

brave iris
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but i hate the bolter it takes like, ten gorillion years to pull out and i don't wanna animation cancel with knives

viral hare
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I just use heavy sword IX as the ultimate m1 lawnmower weapon

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I use the heavy attack maybe like 4 times a mission

brave iris
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and what about the good ol' thunder hammers. they seem a bit difficult to use

gaunt roost
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how does the devil claw parry work

vast basin
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You can also do a reload animation cancel to pull out boltor faster

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As long as you don't have a full mag

split ibex
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Is crit worth bothering with on Heavy Sword Mk IX? I don't really need flame grenade but idk what to do on the top of the talent tree otherwise because the left top tree kinda sucks

fleet zealot
viral hare
fleet zealot
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chsword, evi and dclaw all do crit better, hsword likes it's big consistent damage

split ibex
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So just take flame grenade and deal with it I guess

split ibex
fleet zealot
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left top tree doesn't suck

split ibex
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I did look at the crit table on Hsword and it's not great

fleet zealot
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hsword does heavies, EWEW is still great for never being stuck on 0 toughness

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stun nade, yea some people like an offensive nade but it's still a good option

split ibex
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EWEW is just so little toughness

viral hare
# brave iris i'm afraid i don't get it

(charging up a full powered up hammer hit with crucis and hitting a weakspot is kinda hard to do, you gotta do some camera manipulation shenanigans sometimes)

fleet zealot
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4 points free

fleet zealot
split ibex
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Vicious offering is good though

fleet zealot
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it is a constant regenerating dot in combat

onyx solar
brave iris
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what on earth is EWEW

fleet zealot
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being at 0 toughness is way worse than even being at 1 toughness

fleet zealot
brave iris
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oh right

fleet zealot
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2.5% toughness regen per second if 3 or more enemies are within 5 meters

split ibex
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Oh I know, but that's mostly relevant for being shot. Most times i'm not going to be in a pack of enemies and being shot simultaneously

spare dome
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its ok

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it took a hit with P13

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and really

fleet zealot
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yee

spare dome
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toughness on dodge is just

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wayyyyyyyyy too good

split ibex
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On a much stronger tree too

fleet zealot
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went from 8%->2.5% (technically it was 5% as a feat but it wasn't calculating correctly)

spare dome
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that whole section of the tree down to the knives

fleet zealot
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speaking of

spare dome
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could just be second wind, and second wind could cost five points

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and i would still use it

fleet zealot
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as anyone tested new EWEW if it has the same bug as the old one

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giving it like 4% a second or something fatshark would miss

spare dome
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eh

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just assume it still does

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either way its still just ok

brave iris
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i think i'd prefer it if Powered weapons would stay 'powered' until shut off, like the shovels with the mode switch. but maybe i'm alone in this

fleet zealot
brave iris
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aw

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why?

ripe quest
steel agate
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You’d have the win button on standby no matter the situation

brave iris
ripe quest
# brave iris aw

Once upon a time Psword could activate like 6 times in a row and it was the dumbest shit ever

steel agate
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But they flip back to normal when u hit soemthing

brave iris
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yes

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i obviously meant they'd depower when used

viral hare
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Yeah ogryn’s new flip shovels are kinda just a better thammer hot take

brave iris
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i'm not an idiot

north sedge
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better at crushers

steel agate
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I never said u were pal

north sedge
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and elites really

steel agate
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no need to be rash this soon

brave iris
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well either way, it seems pretty fine with shovels, so i figure, why not other activated things?

ripe quest
# zinc talon ok leavin meat g rinder

Yeah Okri I was testing it and it's not better than a conventional build for crowds. It has the single target fine since an important part of Evis' normal damage comes from Rampage.

viral hare
steel agate
fleet zealot
steel agate
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It was about bricking items KEKW_ogryn

brave iris
fleet zealot
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power sword, ironhelm, old evi, would likely just stay toggled on 24/7

brave iris
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alright, fair about the power sword

fleet zealot
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crusher, crucis, chaxe, chswords would basically have to spend a ton of time toggling

ripe quest
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I'm 90% sure that Ironhelm would turn into a bomb if it stayed on for more than 15 seconds.

fleet zealot
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crusher actually would just be weird asf

open pollen
fleet zealot
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I do think more weapons should have attacks that partial activate the weapon

brave iris
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why would you have to "spend time toggling"?

fleet zealot
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or doing a specific combo

north sedge
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shovels dont stay on though, once you attack it goes back

ripe quest
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It sounds like it's a 'turn on until the next hit' type thing

open pollen
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I am not familiar with the modern parlance

steel agate
open pollen
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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

kiss kiss kiss

brave iris
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that's what i'm saying.

zinc talon
fleet zealot
# brave iris why would you have to "spend time toggling"?

cause all of them except crusher use their activation only for single target, meaning you'd have to flip back and forth. As for crusher, crusher is a normal attack combo machine that would be a pain to use if permanently activated, you'd knock enemies away

zinc talon
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all attacks are the same, heavy/light only differ on charge time

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push block too

brave iris
fleet zealot
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you should've said that earlier

royal vortex
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crusher with like a mode flip would be cool

brave iris
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i said i wanted it like the shovel

royal vortex
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where u could like extend a spike and poke ppl

ripe quest
brave iris
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i assumed you had used it, and knew how the shovels worked.

fleet zealot
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I don't use shovel

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besides vet standard shovel

brave iris
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or at least seen somebody

viral hare
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low key definitely a bad idea but I kinda want charged thammer to cleave unarmored enemies Sitgryn

viral hare
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Crucis I mean

ripe quest
viral hare
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Forgor people use ironhelm, I’ve seen it so few times

brave iris
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i assumed the shovel workings were common knowledge.

gaunt bronze
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Fucking hell finally

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My first Thrust IV

royal vortex
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pog

ripe quest
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I would imagine the shovel thing is common knowledge, was a big deal when they came out

coarse birch
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pog

ripe quest
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Zealot chat was very mixed on Ogryns getting Thammer but w/ BM

royal vortex
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im of the (crab's) opinion that bm should be deleted as a blessing and made an innate weapon property

north sedge
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i am indifferent other than thinking it's funny

hidden verge
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wait, orgyn getting thammer? pogryn

royal vortex
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because u probs shouldnt be one-shotting a bunch of ogryns

ripe quest
north sedge
coarse birch
#

more unique weapon properties would be cool

north sedge
#

but better

ripe quest
#

Like a 2nd cleave value that would be used up instead of the main one if you kill with a weakspot or smth

royal vortex
#

i mean hsword already has it kind of

hidden verge
#

anyway, any class can get any weapon, as long as I get to use 2 handed chain axe like the mauler's

royal vortex
#

but it also lets u have meaningful weakspot/crit cleave

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which is really cool

ripe quest
#

So Caxe has like 1.5-1.8 cleave on the attacks but has a value of like 8 stored cleave

north sedge
#

i am of crabs opinion that 🦀

royal vortex
coarse birch
#

spittin honestly

austere shore
#

whats best combat knife to use for stealth backstab build? using a mk6 currently

coarse birch
#

i prefer mk3 but its preference

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mk3 is better single target tho

ripe quest
#

Mk III will get the high damage stab out faster.

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sorry

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wrong one

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The Mk VI can do it but you need to get to the H3

odd fjord
#

Mk6 is push attack spam one?

ripe quest
#

Both can spam PAs

coarse birch
#

mk6 PA is single target and mk3 PA is horde clear

#

both are pretty decent

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although mk3 horde clear isnt great regardless

ripe quest
#

It'll outpace the heavies.

coarse birch
#

mk3 PA is still good for ST yeah

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oh i didnt realize it was that strong

royal vortex
#

u can be funny and do push attack special punch light

ripe quest
#

They just come out really fast, they do less per hit.

coarse birch
#

oh i forgot about the special chain

austere shore
#

cheers, what perks should I try for on it? currently my best one has flesh tearer iii and uncanny iii

coarse birch
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uncanny/precog

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if you really want bleed flesh tearer/uncanny

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perks flaniac

austere shore
#

okay thanks

open pollen
#

Emperor, I could go for some flan right about now

ripe quest
#

In a perfect world that'd be balanced. It's so fun to perform

spare dome
#

ur cheating tho ur crusher is made of playdoh

ripe quest
#

Yeah my graphics give me built in rending.

royal vortex
#

i judge ppl who use disdain

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i fkin hate disdain

#

its my worst enemy

spare dome
#

thats gamer right there

royal vortex
#

FUCK that talent

ripe quest
#

That was being used for a Hsword benchmark but I just wanted to throw a knife on it and do the combo

spare dome
#

personally i love everyone who seems to believe the entire zealot tree is encompassed by loner aura alone

royal vortex
#

lmao

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i wish the tree had less like talent imbalance between the nodes above the auras

#

i dont wanna take fkin anything above beacon of purity

open pollen
spare dome
#

i do wanna

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but not as much as left tree

spare dome
#

and benediction is kinda too good

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

if sainted gunslinger was 1s of suppression immunity on melee kill stacks 10 times

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and gets spent on weapon swap

royal vortex
#

that would be bussin

#

but like the reload speed

#

no sir

open pollen
ripe quest
#

If they swapped Sainted Gunslinger and Unremitting I'd use it more

royal vortex
#

sprint cost and impact strength both being in the same lil group is pain

spare dome
#

sprint cost kinda underrated tbh

ripe quest
#

Cuz it's like, up all the time and it can be fun but I never would spend 2 points on it

royal vortex
#

im never really doing anything that sprint cost would help with

open pollen
royal vortex
#

cuz i just play chastise and i dont really need help running

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the game runs for me

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the impact strength i think would net u a couple stagger BPs on crusher if u had no impact blessing but this is territory of the utterly deranged

ripe quest
ripe quest
spare dome
#

doesnt caxe special headshot already do that

ripe quest
#

The Antax is the only one by base that can

spare dome
#

oh

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and the only one i use lol

open pollen
#

I am very surprised that, with how bad my country is diet-wise, bidets are not more popular. My QoL has gone way up since I got one. 10/10 would recommend.

left iron
#

I have witnessed sorcery

ornate bone
open pollen
royal vortex
#

i think at this point the only time i particularly like ogryn's gameplay is in monstro maelstrom

open pollen
#

I used to only play Ogryn, now I hardly ever play Ogryn. Feels so much slower, despite the speeds apparently being equivalent? And of course, I've gotten so used to having a smaller hitbox and being able to squirrel up behind low cover when under fire.

royal vortex
#

my gripe is like

#

its such a slow and sluggish class

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which isn't the hugest downside

#

but then u also just have a talent tree full of passive stat buffs

spare dome
#

i feel like i have almost infinite choices for movement and approach on the other classes

north sedge
#

it's too big brained for josho

spare dome
#

then i play ogryn and discover only two work in the same space

royal vortex
#

and weapons that lack complexity

#

and guns that hardly require u to aim or do any kind of cool stuff

#

or if it is cool it's lackluster (rumbler)

royal vortex
#

and i in part blame this on the absolutely awful toughness regen availability

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where ur 1 actual option is "hit shit" which is already a default toughness regen option

spare dome
#

good thing FNP is jacked as fuuuuck

royal vortex
#

i played quite a few games with it i just can't do it

#

i have to be able to recognize snipers as a threat

spare dome
#

i dont find the actual like, mechanical skill that different

royal vortex
#

instead of a guy who takes the blue bar away and then i get it back seconds later

spare dome
#

like ogryn is definitely sluggish so sprint slides dont lead into the next nearly as smoothly

#

but it's more environmentals that trip the shit out of me

royal vortex
#

my thing is like

spare dome
#

like leaping over a small stack of boxes and dodge teching off of it

royal vortex
#

u have the Base Layer of darktide gameplay

spare dome
#

is just not a thing for you

royal vortex
#

that u have to really fkin grapple with

#

because ogryn is slow and fat and a lot of ur defense is passive

#

but u cant like opt into a cool weapon or play around a talent that has a specific condition and reward

#

there is no ogryn dance of death

#

for instance

spare dome
#

oh man

#

could you imagine tho

royal vortex
#

kickback

coarse birch
#

bro

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that would be

royal vortex
#

regain the sniper 1 shot at any distance bp

coarse birch
#

something else

spare dome
#

the thing with having a dodge conditional on ogryn is

#

that you slap so much stagger out on the field

royal vortex
#

it does not have to be a dodge condition

spare dome
#

most things dont actually finish that attack yknow

royal vortex
#

i am asking for

spare dome
#

oh

royal vortex
#

a condition

#

if u look at all the talents

spare dome
#

well there's ...

royal vortex
#

and i mean like all of them

spare dome
#

blocking and pushing ;D

royal vortex
#

it is

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HIT HARDER

#

HIT FASTER

#

SHOOT MORE

#

TANK MORE

royal vortex
#

is comedy

spare dome
#

it almost completely invalidates the literal taunt ability

royal vortex
#

yea

spare dome
#

it is VERY funny i agree

royal vortex
#

ogryn also has like

#

1 interaction with finesse

#

as a system entirely

#

no sorry 2

#

there's stubbers and there's brutal momentum

minor sage
#

isnt the finesse stat for ogryn weapons just attack speed

royal vortex
#

brutal momentum technically doesn't have anything to do with finesse so im calling it 1.5

minor sage
#

and nothing else

#

lmao

royal vortex
#

no finesse as a game system

ornate bone
#

When I created POOTIS

open pollen
ornate bone
#

I think I left him at level 13

royal vortex
#

like almost all the weapons have damage loaded into bodyshot stuff

spare dome
#

yea ogryns just arent that particularly rewarded for headshots or crits

ornate bone
#

He's fun, but being massive and slow gets old

royal vortex
#

and u get a fkin PATHETIC headshot bonus

spare dome
#

hell most of their shit has -CC%

royal vortex
#

where u create finesse archetypes for weapons

#

some lean towards headshots some towards crits others stay balanced

#

and u can make finesse stuff on ogryn generally more about crits

spare dome
#

dude if i clothesline a rager's face with my shovel on heavy 2 he should instantly be pinwheeling along the floor

royal vortex
#

cuz like randomly hitting a guy really hard for no specific reason is ogryny as fuck

spare dome
#

either from stagger or as a corpse

open pollen
royal vortex
#

there's also lil things u can do to make some ogryn weapons more complex

#

like the mk2 club has the basic framework for some funny combos

#

the slap -> light punch -> strikedown h2 thing should like

#

have a reason for u to do it

spare dome
#

IIIb also used to be funky fun

#

had like eight different combos

#

now its just smash heavy

royal vortex
#

it used to have a juiced af unyielding damage on the punch but they nerfed it

ornate bone
#

I wish smackdown didn't randomly shit itself and I could actually just get the crit bonus by punching enemies

royal vortex
ornate bone
#

Like dodge, it seems the game just pretends it didn't see me do it

royal vortex
#

like

ornate bone
#

And fuck me if I can figure out why it bugs

royal vortex
#

they gave shield's push attack headshot prio and good finesse

#

BUT NOW THERE'S NOT A FUCKIN REASON TO USE IT

#

CUZ U JUST SPAM H1

spare dome
#

well part of it is actual output of the weapon, but the other problem is that 90% of your tankiness and damage comes from supplementary effects that trigger on heavies

royal vortex
#

yea

spare dome
#

like the BB3 disappeared real fukken quick

ornate bone
#

Oh yeah, another miff of ogryn

#

Heavy spam

royal vortex
#

i would probs rework the entire top row on ogryn if given the chance

#

well like

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the whole class really

#

but the top row especially u just gotta change some stuff there

ornate bone
#

It feeds into the boring stereotype that a guy of that size with muscles of that size is meant to be slow at everything

#

Like, for fuck's sake, a giant is a normal person but bigger

spare dome
#

if i remade ogryn it would have two talents

#

STRONGEST, BIGGEST, MEANEST
effect: yes

#

and SAFETY IS OFF
effect: gun is always firing when drawn

royal vortex
#

hell yeah

ornate bone
#

You think an ogryn with arms of that size wouldn't hit shit fast as fuck with insane force?

royal vortex
#

they give him really heavy weapons to slow him down

ornate bone
#

the liberal agenda

open pollen
#

Don't forget extra rashuns for battle snaks

#

Did one of the ogryn cosmetics have like, a whole keg of beer dangling off it or did I dream that?

royal vortex
#

no idea

#

also the more i play rock and tknives the more i feel like rock is just a worse throwing knife that kills muties faster

spare dome
#

it did

#

i remember it

royal vortex
#

they should give rocks cleave

#

why the fk is this thing getting stopped on a bruiser

spare dome
#

or perhaps i am also part of your delusions

open pollen
royal vortex
#

oh yeah

#

but the enemy has to run into it

open pollen
#

Aye

royal vortex
#

the rock should keep going through at least 1 random bruiser

#

and i would enjoy it so much more

open pollen
#

Rock is just "Funny Ragdoll" maker

spare dome
#

yea tknives are just way too good

royal vortex
#

unironically they could halve the amount of tknives u get and id still use them

spare dome
#

oh def

#

id just take less risky shots on moving targets lol

#

but how else am i gonna practice ;_;

open pollen
#

people sleep on knives.

coarse birch
#

idk if ive ever run low on tknives

open pollen
#

Doesn't look all that comfortable to me. Prefer matress.

royal vortex
#

im used to wasting blitzes

#

i trained with ogryn boxes

#

u got 2 of those

#

and would only regen if u had a vet with the talent

#

now u get so many more

spare dome
#

remember when it was one box

royal vortex
#

i actually didnt play quite that early

royal vortex
#

i started right after the actual release cuz i thought it would be more stable

#

(i am stupid)

open pollen
#

Rock and La Bomba are my top two reasons to play Ogryn.

median steeple
#

I still remember the week of EA leading up to release

#

oh the dreams that were shattered

spare dome
#

i was always gonna play this game

royal vortex
#

i was on the fence

spare dome
#

$40 was an easy bargain

royal vortex
#

my buddies kept buggin me about getting it

ornate bone
#

The so-called ogrynheimer

open pollen
#

Third is heavy stubber. 4th is that new shovel they added that can 1-hit like, multiple crushers at once.

ornate bone
royal vortex
#

now none of them play it

ornate bone
#

you fucking nerd

royal vortex
#

and here i am

royal vortex
#

darktide hit the autism differnet it aint my fault

spare dome
#

it really do

median steeple
ornate bone
#

Josh is acoustic 🪕 chadgryn

median steeple
#

thank fuck it was cheaper

coarse birch
#

i wasnt even super interested in it at first

#

but it clicked

#

after like 100 hours

spare dome
#

i got vt2 for like $15 and put 2k hrs into it over a year

#

now im at 2.7k for DT

ornate bone
#

I bought it because since EYE I've always been interested in the kind of setting 40K has

spare dome
#

ez value

south folio
#

anyways refund

ornate bone
#

And since I played Vermintide, I already really liked the gameplay loop

spare dome
#

bad game

open pollen
#

It scratches that itch. When you're stuck in, killing and dodging and somehow surviving against all odds. I love this game!

spare dome
#

bursters are silent

royal vortex
#

i played vt2 p casually

south folio
royal vortex
#

the feel and pacing of dt is more my style

coarse birch
#

i had a very hard time going back to vt2

ornate bone
#

I never got into whatever the fuck they call those modded difficulties

coarse birch
#

not that i played it much

spare dome
#

initially i was so against the sprint key

ornate bone
#

cwdowns69 or whatever

open pollen
#

Aye, I do wish we got a few more things from VT2. Flails, Sack Rats, stuff like that.

spare dome
#

sprinting?? in my tide games??? with pubs like these????

ornate bone
#

Yeah, sprint hit me weird

median steeple
#

VT2 is def harder than DT since you can turn off your brain for DT but you need it for VT2

ornate bone
#

It still does actually

open pollen
#

Frankly, everytime someone complained about DT being too much like VT2 I wanted to grief them in minecraft.

south folio
#

beam staff 🥺

spare dome
#

i miss u beam staff

#

also nothing plays like Unchained

ornate bone
#

But fortunately it isn't one of those idiotic games where you get limited from sprinting by having no stamina

royal vortex
#

the only thing i dont really like is ppl wanting to go back to vt2's crafting

ornate bone
#

Open world games always sucked with sprinting

royal vortex
#

like how about we just fkin make something better

spare dome
#

yes i also dont get that

royal vortex
#

u will not make me carry these stupid books

ornate bone
#

Sprint, jog to recharge stamina, sprint, jog to recharge stamina

royal vortex
#

i dont care for the jump puzzles

ornate bone
#

VT2's crafting was kind of a pain in the ass too ngl

open pollen
#

Whoever first came up with the idea that sprinting without stamina should still give you a slight movement speed bonus deserve a raise.

ornate bone
#

tru

#

Love me that man

median steeple
#

the only thing I want from VT2 in DT is that bosses are worth the effort and the MTX shop that isnt on rotation bullshit

ornate bone
#

I want to buy cosmetics with money

median steeple
open pollen
#

More bossess like the Twins? Yes please!

ornate bone
#

So I can see them working with all the other shit I have an refund if they have too many issues

#

Like I did in Vermintide

open pollen
#

The assassination target's a bloody pushover.

ornate bone
#

And so I don't have fucking leftovers

#

But noooooo we need to make parasitic systems for the people who are already going to give us money

south folio
#

assassination bosses' shield aura no longer shattering your toughness 😔

spare dome
#

😞

royal vortex
#

lets just roll back to patch 13

#

i miss this

south folio
#

i want my 15% toughness per warp kill soulstealer

open pollen
south folio
median steeple
#

give us a mount

#

cowards let me ride a sentinel

royal vortex
#

the p13-p15 period was peak darktide

#

especially the part where vet players hated every moment of it

south folio
#

TRUUUUUUUUUE

#

and sane opinions like patch <12 vet being balanced floating around

#

truly a great era

open pollen
royal vortex
#

i actually dont know if i like p13 or p14 more

spare dome
#

i cant agree with this as it implies darcy was an implicit component of peak darktide and that is an intolerable thought

royal vortex
#

darcy was destroyed

hushed knoll
south folio
hushed knoll
median steeple
royal vortex
#

hello staniel

hushed knoll
south folio
#

stan jumpscare

heavy arch
#

bring back darcy

south folio
#

so true

#

vet chat isn't salty enough nowadays

hushed knoll
#

Arco I didn't squirt pasta like you wanted me to

south folio
#

phrasing

#

please

left iron
royal vortex
#

the vet tree got powercrept

coarse birch
#

you

#

you what

royal vortex
#

and the baby was pacified

heavy arch
#

I saw the “personal” attack post and laughed

hushed knoll
#

HI FINNLAIDICUYE LYFE SHEETS

south folio
#

I DID NOT TELL STAN TO "SQUIRT" PASTA

coarse birch
#

arco

south folio
#

THIS IS STAN WORDING

royal vortex
#

i know what arco told stan

left iron
#

Wtf Arco

ornate bone
#

Now excuse me while I carry pubs with knife vet

south folio
#

you bitches

royal vortex
#

i will refrain from commenting

south folio
#

how can you trust stan over me

hushed knoll
#

You told me to squirt pasta pieces out of other pasta

south folio
#

josho you hoe

open pollen
heavy arch
#

unironic knife posting is allowed but Darcy banned

median steeple
#

The curse of language coming back once again

heavy arch
#

Criminal imo

royal vortex
#

an ogryn 2 hander is just not gonna work

ornate bone
#

silence, sinner

hushed knoll
south folio
royal vortex
#

like the shovel has a fucking COMEDIC range

ornate bone
#

a door blue

gaunt roost
#

can devil parry block crusher and mauler swings

coarse birch
#

i just didnt realie you were into that arco

south folio
coarse birch
#

no judgement

median steeple
fading vale
hushed knoll
south folio
hushed knoll
#

Hi Dough and Laz

royal vortex
#

but u have to do it within a like 300ms window right before it hits or u lose all ur stamina

#

iirc

south folio
open pollen
coarse birch
royal vortex
#

and getting guardbroke from an overheads means ur probs dying to a subsequent followup overhead

heavy arch
#

300ms for perfect parry is huge

hushed knoll
south folio
#

wow i wonder why i'm mean to josho

gaunt roost
coarse birch
#

damn

gaunt roost
gaunt roost
gaunt roost
hushed knoll
#

Josho is a lil corn muffin

royal vortex
hushed knoll
#

Fresh out of the oven

royal vortex
south folio
median steeple
#

I refuse to believe you can change

spare dome
#

show us your corn free insides

open pollen
royal vortex
#

u will have to take me at my word

south folio
#

and non-muffin exterior

hushed knoll
#

Ok Josho you can be creamy cornbread instead

open pollen
hushed knoll
#

My aunt makes creamy cornbread

#

With like creamed corn

royal vortex
#

does she also make the turkey meatload

hushed knoll
#

Very funny

royal vortex
#

i know

fading vale
#

creamed cornbread

hushed knoll
#

It's so fucking moist it's amazing

heavy arch
#

ew

royal vortex
open pollen
royal vortex
#

oh my god

#

i remember this clip

hushed knoll
#

We had it with the mayonnaise chicken

royal vortex
#

i made it like the day before p13

#

because i knew the headshot prio was gonna be fixed

#

and i had to have a keepsake of how fkin awful it was before

open pollen
#

Why did Darcy get the boot again? Or is that secret info

hushed knoll
#

Wait was Darcy here again

south folio
royal vortex
#

witchhunting a playtester was the final straw

open pollen
#

Yea, that'd do it.

coarse birch
#

josho bad confirmed?

#

carried by p13 ogryn

open pollen
#

We get away with a lot here, but that kind of stuff no bueno

south folio
#

yeah josho has regenerating ammo and refuses to share his secrets so also probably cheater

royal vortex
#

and before that quite a long history of shitstirring

#

shut UP arco oh my god

hushed knoll
#

Wait what is witchhunting a playtester

royal vortex
#

u be vulnerable once and these ppl will never let u hear the end of it

ornate bone
#

Alternatively I won't carry because my connection is shitting itself again

south folio
#

this is the price you pay for having bad internet

#

(besides having to deal with bad internet)

royal vortex
#

lmao

open pollen
royal vortex
#

u should have been there yesterday

hushed knoll
median steeple
#

please dont say that when the colon is involved

royal vortex
#

i was getting netted left n right because of shitty internet causing the trappers to be silent

south folio
#

dum bith

royal vortex
south folio
#

i was too eepy after noon to continue playing and took a nap

hushed knoll
north sedge
#

sushi and fuck

south folio
#

so sad

coarse birch
#

josho was quite upset

royal vortex
#

i was malding

south folio
#

mald

hushed knoll
#

It triggers me when people misspell cologne

royal vortex
#

well ok i didnt mald nearly as hard

open pollen
hushed knoll
royal vortex
#

as when the racist ogryn

north sedge
royal vortex
#

denied me my parry

south folio
open pollen
#

3:00 comes around and I cannae stay awake

ripe quest
median steeple
#

hmmmmm nuh uh sleepy time

open pollen
#

need my nap time. Nap time cat time.

hushed knoll
royal vortex
#

anyways

#

look at this

hushed knoll
#

And then the acidity in the tomatoes will make your lips chapped

royal vortex
#

i have a new appreciation for the hs7

north sedge
south folio
#

the stars aligning and your bad ping having the bulwarks die some noticeable milliseconds after

spare dome
#

is your ping 1000ms lmao

royal vortex
#

DUDE

coarse birch
south folio
#

no its his katana

royal vortex
#

it activates when i play hsword

hushed knoll
royal vortex
#

it goes anime mode