zealot-class

[mystic ether]

It'll get killed one way or another lol

[rocky marsh]

and since im not taking twbs technically this circled node is wasted

[mystic ether]

What're the two in the middle middle tier?

[rocky marsh]

the one below is SoC

gives you damage reduction when you take damage

[mystic ether]

This is on an evis build for you or something? Idk what yall been talking about in fuller context.

[golden anchor]

think caxe

[mystic ether]

Old chain axe?

[golden anchor]

combat axe

[mystic ether]

Barely touched the new one.

Ah

[rocky marsh]

tl;dr mr exhil
unless you mean not taking bleed for emprah, i don't understand how you would gain a point from not taking stuns esp if you go down the knife route, you would waste a point into the circled red node since the build you suggest isn't taking twbs

[ripe quest]

Probs something like this. Could grab Good Balance or TWBS, alt Anoint and Purge at the top.

[royal vortex]

@coarse birch the burstering was not intentional

[coarse birch]

no no i get it

[royal vortex]

i stopped paying attention to my screen

blazing piety hs7 is some shit though

[coarse birch]

i go to push a burster and josho just fuckin

flies into my screen

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[coarse birch]

used his one charge to do it btw

[royal vortex]

dude i got the SICKEST

deathblow proc

lemme upload it

it probs wasnt even bm

and hs has second target damage parity with first target

but it was so cool

[deep imp]

any thought on this build ? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a5e89ef-0fcb-4e54-927d-af7d87170251/reginalds-catastrophic-crit-cleaver

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/tiadzt @south folio @coarse birch

[south folio]

cinematic

all it needs is a slow mo

[royal vortex]

fkin

CHOP

[south folio]

hs7 superiority

[royal vortex]

this game i wont only have 1 charge

[coarse birch]

that was pretty good

[rocky marsh]

could i go these two?
or not worth

also thanks alot man

[ripe quest]

On a Caxe probably not.

[jaunty escarp]

is there any way to salvage this?

its currently 2.6k melk bux

[north sedge]

😬

[jaunty escarp]

its joever

[sharp zodiac]

Had a zelaot chastise a burster

With his revolver

Pretty funny

[cursive cloak]

what are ideal blessings and perks for a flamer?

[north sedge]

blaze away + whatever (overpressure if its ever fixed)

flak/elites

[cursive cloak]

alas, I picked one up with fan the flames and quickflame

seems okay though, the stagger ignore is nice

[north sedge]

you also need 76 burn for base stats

fan only works on the puff

not braced fire

[spare dome]

its really not a need

[cursive cloak]

why 76 burn?

[spare dome]

max possible stacks

[cursive cloak]

I see

[north sedge]

also if you're running chastise, stacking burn then using chastise will delete crushers/elites quickly

[opaque island]

are you telling me the chastise applies to the burn stacks ive already applied

thats sick

also counter intuitive

[north sedge]

#zealot-class message

[south folio]

yeah, dots get updated in real time

[opaque island]

im actually more impressed with how fast you linked that video from last month

[covert blade]

switch or keep right?

need to salvage shred

[north sedge]

i keep it on hand because people constantly talk about how bad the flamer is

and it's actually very strong

[opaque island]

i thought most people thought the flamer was good

[cursive cloak]

wait, what? how does that work?

-checks video-

[north sedge]

look at the video i linked to josh

[cursive cloak]

holy shit lol

[south folio]

during chastise, carapace uses flak armour damage modifiers

[cursive cloak]

also quickflame is hilarious

I can reload, interrupt reload to melee

then reload even faster

[opaque island]

i didnt think about that

[cursive cloak]

long as the counter says 0, it counts as a quickflame reload

[opaque island]

thats smart, you take it to 0 ammo from the first half of the reload switch and swing and then boom your reloading from 0 ammo getting the reload speed buff

[meager turret]

giga brain move

[ripe quest]

It comes up a lot.

[north sedge]

yo why flamer so bad?!!?!

[ripe quest]

[haughty haven]

Flamer just bad purg staff

[opaque island]

which class do i wanna play today zealot chat?

[meager turret]

Probably zealot

[ornate bone]

my mom

[haughty haven]

Scriers and DD melee psyker so you can pretend you're a zealot

[opaque island]

zealot cant use purg staff thats for a different class so like it doesnt really work as an alternative to flamer

since yknow zealot cant use it

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[haughty haven]

Just spittin fax

[ornate bone]

Flamer users when you weave your purgatus' stagger and fire with the melee attacks

[north sedge]

#zealot-class message

[ripe quest]

mrw warpfire is just bad burn

[opaque island]

my point is if im playing zealot i cannot use purgatus staff so what does it matter if its better? its not an option for my class im playing

[haughty haven]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-16279809

[opaque island]

:^)

[ripe quest]

It's slower than a base reload if you do that.

[haughty haven]

Zealot is innately good at horde clear. Plenty of classes have bad weapons

[covert blade]

good bye ol'faithful served me well

[opaque island]

the flamer isnt bad just cause purgatus does it better?

[ripe quest]

One has unlimited ammo and the other can wipe patrols.

[median steeple]

both have places in the sandbox and will both have advantages and drawbacks

[royal vortex]

@coarse birch post ur scoreboard my internet was fkin struggle bus

[coarse birch]

@royal vortex

[royal vortex]

crashed

lmao

[fleet zealot]

pruge has unlimited ammo and free spreading but zealot deals more damage and has chastise and the flame radius is bigger

[coarse birch]

lol

[fleet zealot]

i'd honestly say the flamer is better most of the time

cause psyker doesn't even need purge or even blazing trauma to use soulblaze effectively

[south folio]

I wonder if people realize that Soulblaze is worse than burn

[spare dome]

well obviously

heretics dont even have souls to burn

[north sedge]

no arco it's better than flamer duh

[spare dome]

imo purg is better because of the draw time, and yea the ammo, sure

[north sedge]

🤔

[spare dome]

it's just a super potent stagger stick that comes out immediately when you need it

pretty much unlimited uptime

but you could be doing better things

[haughty haven]

Purg is a really weird choice on psyker imo simply because you can have something with similar function in your blitz

[south folio]

not at all

you are severely underestimating's Purg damage output if you think so

[golden anchor]

sometimes you just want to start fires without venting shriek

[haughty haven]

By similar function I mean crowd control. Jesus you people debate everything lol

[spare dome]

yea but the CC without the damage is why smite is such a meme

[haughty haven]

Smite does cc fine and it's hard to justify taking up staff spot when you can have surge or void

[south folio]

my bad I should have read your mind to glean what you meant by that

[ripe quest]

Purge has better direct damage tbf. It'll do more burst DPS than a Flamer.

It's just like, Fury of the Faithful

[south folio]

and it's still not "weird" because they aren't competing--theyre on different slots

[haughty haven]

Or just shouldn't of slammed the fist down on the wrong button over a subjective opinion?

[south folio]

it's almost like you can have different builds and mix-and-match as appropriate

well it's my subjective opinion of your subjective opinion

[opaque island]

\y

oops

[south folio]

what, rules for me but not for thee?

I can't have my own opinions?

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pillsbury-doughboy-pillsbury-shades-sunglasses-cool-gif-22258477

[median steeple]

civil discourse in this channel? you know that ain't allowed

[spare dome]

i slam my fist down on civil discourse

[opaque island]

I slam my fist into your mom, i win

[haughty haven]

I never just flat said wrong to your opinion lol I was simply defending mine

[south folio]

alright well defend Purg being bad instead of remarking about how people like me like to debate or how I shouldn't call your opinion wrong

[opaque island]

now that this has come up, I feel like i do this alot, take someone stating their opinion as attacking mine

[haughty haven]

I never said purg was bad. Manufacture drama much?

My original statement before you came in here all hot and bothered was that flamer just bad purgatus lmfao

Which is quite obviously an opinion as well

[south folio]

bad enough that it's not worth taking for a build simply because a build using blitzes is better

[ripe quest]

This #zealot-class message heavily implies that you think it's not an entirely reasonable option since a blitz can cover it's benefits.

[ripe quest]

Why run anything when assail arco

[south folio]

so true

[haughty haven]

Gross assail users

[solar gorge]

i love to assail the crusher

[buoyant pecan]

HELLO MY FELLOW RELIGIOUS UPSTARTS.

https://tenor.com/view/fellowkids-steve-buscemi-kids-how-are-you-gif-5510636

[ornate bone]

HOW MUCH DRIP CAN A SINGLE PILGRIM REQUIRE

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-gif-meme-toy-story-whats-good-buzz-lightyear-gif-26344526

[buoyant pecan]

I WAS CURIOUS AS TO THE NATURE OF THE BUILD PATHS WITH WHICH ONE MAY PARTAKE IN SO THAT THE DAMAGE NUMBERS COULD BE SUBSTANIALLY HIGHER THAN IS THE NORM FOR THEM TO BE

[median steeple]

hmmmrgh bleed builds 🤤

[ripe quest]

Stealth Thammer build with +Infested +Fodder, do the full setup and do really big Thammer hits on Poxwalkers the entire mission.

[south folio]

and crit Dr blazing piety

iron helm

shock and awe

[ripe quest]

we really cookin with this one

[buoyant pecan]

I SEE. HOW DELIGHTFUL

[golden anchor]

hammer meta is stacking maximum impact so you can ragdoll things the farthest

[buoyant pecan]

I SHALL FLAUNT MY SCOREBOARD MOD DAMAGE STAT UPON THE LESS INFORMED SO THAT I MAY CONJURE UP THE IMAGE OF SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY SPEAK OF

[median steeple]

your generosity knows no limits

[coarse birch]

and now we have gone too far

[royal vortex]

blazing piety hs7

this is

enlightening

what a kind gift from big e

[jolly bridge]

I think everyone forgot about Shredder Autopistol when they nerfed pinning fire but I recently made a build around Shredder and it's surprisingly strong - Almost overpowered (!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkN52rZzC4k
At least I know what everyone will be playing after they nerf Columnus IAG

[coarse birch]

shredder is fine its just worse IAG atm ye

bit of an ammo hog too with no vet

[jolly bridge]

honestly IAG deal no stagger and suppression. Shredder excells in both and it's a pretty huge thing

[south folio]

on the other hand, you don't need stagger/suppression if you dps check the enemies

[coarse birch]

yeah

if i can kill it in half the time with columnus and from further out

its less of a big deal

[median steeple]

CC is not needed when everything melts like a paper towel in a storm

[opaque island]

what a cute fella

[median steeple]

Lunch : D

fucking discord

there we go

[coarse birch]

like you can def argue thats cause columnus is too good

but i wouldnt say the stagger is really something that wins it over

[torn sluice]

does anyone know stat importance for knife?

[opaque island]

i didnt realize how many missions there are until ive tried to beat every mission on damn, I think man i should only have 1 or 2 left, and i count and i have like 4-5

[heavy arch]

does surge with perilous and warpfire work

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-pets-gif-11182280

thanks

[fleet zealot]

ehh kinda, you can pick off elites with surge

[fleet zealot]

everything but mobility is important

[sterile dune]

pilgrims, what do I do with this thing? keep 1 of these blessings and change the weak dmg or what?

[fleet zealot]

penetration yuo can dump if you have uncanny strike 4

[royal vortex]

probs just swap both blessings

i mean perks

not blessings

good lord

[median steeple]

about to say

[ripe quest]

holy those damage taken numbers

[royal vortex]

unyielding is ok but also not huge outside of bulwark shield walls

[coarse birch]

it can do decent damage to a beast

[royal vortex]

and u have to remember to hold the gun out to get the damage perk's effect

[sterile dune]

thats true

[royal vortex]

yea but u dont need unyielding for that its mainly no respite

[coarse birch]

yeah i wouldnt pick it on purpose

[sterile dune]

so fire frenzy and no respite are ok?

[median steeple]

yea

[coarse birch]

ye

thats what i run

[royal vortex]

no respite is extremely strong on shotguns cuz it's 20% per stack

[sterile dune]

wow

[royal vortex]

instead of "up to 20%"

yea and its based on stagger count

[sterile dune]

yeah ok that changes things

[ripe quest]

Stacks up to 7 times

very fun

[sterile dune]

haha wtf

[median steeple]

epic fatshark description moment

[coarse birch]

NR is for sure bis thing on shotguns unless you are running specific builds

[ornate bone]

are these blessings good? it's a melk offering

[ripe quest]

Though that means you need to get 7 stacks of stagger on an enemy

[coarse birch]

yes

just change perks

[ornate bone]

sick

[sterile dune]

what perks for shotty then?

[coarse birch]

the usual

[royal vortex]

flak/maniac

[median steeple]

^

[hollow fulcrum]

Do you guys know the modifier prio for heavy sword?

[coarse birch]

flak is the most important

[royal vortex]

damage/first target/cleave damage > cleave targets > defences if ur talkin about weapon stats

[sterile dune]

im sure defence is dump stat on heavy sword right?

[hollow fulcrum]

Exactly that, thanks.

[coarse birch]

defence/mobility is dump stat like 99% of the tiem

[hollow fulcrum]

Yeah that makes sense

[median steeple]

defence is the dump stat on like all things

blocking isnt a very good Idea a lot of the time

[hollow fulcrum]

ready to see me brick one?

[median steeple]

pushing is better in most situations

[fleet zealot]

defense+ mobility dump stats always

[ornate bone]

do it, would be funny if it rolled better than mine

[fleet zealot]

if you can't handle a 14 mobility agri brauto you need to get good /hj

[hollow fulcrum]

quality loss porn

[stone fern]

well you got a blessing!

[median steeple]

[sterile dune]

buy from melk or no?

[hollow fulcrum]

I just hit 30 on the Zealot yesterday, so still better than what I was using... i guess

[torn sluice]

cool ty

[hollow fulcrum]

uh one more thing, should I reroll perfect strike or wrath for headtaker? (I haven't found rampage yet)

[opaque island]

in my recent damn experience the actual deadliest enemy is a bunch of gunners in an open area all spread out

[hollow fulcrum]

or reroll both perks for maniac/flak?

[next trench]

why did my slides just make me crouch here?

[median steeple]

staggered by the gunner?

[next trench]

but shouldnt i be dodging

while sliding

[median steeple]

you are directly in front of them moving in a straight line sliding there wouldn't have helped

[next trench]

that happens a lot its so annoying

[median steeple]

yea

[next trench]

i have a collection of clips of that happening

[vale carbon]

which melee(s) have the highest crit rate, or are best for crits?

[spare dome]

knives, taxes

[vale carbon]

taxes have better crits?

[south folio]

looks like you're getting shot and staggered in the intervals between your slides when you're standing up

[spare dome]

crit bonus bar yo

[surreal shore]

guys

how are you meant to use lawbringer

compared to others with its speical?

[median steeple]

mixed horde demolition?

[surreal shore]

isnt kantrael

beter at that?

[fleet zealot]

should i order a quesadilla from a new place

[median steeple]

the kant is just really good at a lot of things

[fleet zealot]

or a pizza from a place i trust

[median steeple]

try something new

[fleet zealot]

lawbringer can do hordes better than kanty intstantly

if built right

[opaque island]

the ai director is just so inconsistent, i can play a damn game and win it with a little struggle, or get a heresy game thats 2x more difficult with way more heavy and boss spawns than the damn game ever had

[fleet zealot]

FUCK the new place deson't have free delivery

[opaque island]

no modifiers

[median steeple]

heresy is harder due to teammates in my experience

[fleet zealot]

i was getting so hype but i'm not paying an extra 4$

[median steeple]

sadness

[surreal shore]

i see i got alw brigner with 375 stat

tier 4 fire frenzy and no respite

[median steeple]

awesome

[opaque island]

its not even teamates, I just had a plague ogryn, into a DH spawn into a nurgle beast spawn in a really shitty location, and another DH ahead of that if we didnt get wiped

[median steeple]

whats the perks?

[fleet zealot]

partly it's cause of heresy teammates just being worse and 2ndly, the variant horde/spawning system is widly different

[opaque island]

not to mention the crushers and maulers that were all throughout

[surreal shore]

i was wondering like if i should use it with my sneaky build

[median steeple]

aw yes the director spamming AI my fav

[fleet zealot]

a game where the director wants to spawn a ton of crushers is gonna end up being harder than a game where the director decides it's time for trash shooters

[opaque island]

thats exactly my point though

it shouldnt be able to decide im gonna make this heresy run harder than a damnation run

[rough vault]

I want new penances, chat

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

[opaque island]

yea once i finish up the penances for each class

i dunno what im gonna do

[fleet zealot]

i might just get taco bell, don't feel like chipotle

[fleet zealot]

idk, the price we pay

the love we share

All in all, I consider the variance great so every game doesn't feel samey, with the same expected spawns coming the same exact way

[rough vault]

I especially want new cosmetics i dont need to shill out dish for

Ill take anything at this point

[fleet zealot]

Oh and speaking off fellow zealots

[rough vault]

Im so desperate

[fleet zealot]

what helmets have the voice filter, the ones currently in the shop

since i can't really tell

[median steeple]

uh

[rough vault]

I dont think any in the shop rn have it

[median steeple]

are you at the shop rn because I forgot the rotation lmao

[rough vault]

Except vet's scion helm

[fleet zealot]

no lmao

i know vet has a helm rn

but i don't wanna blow money on an alt character

[rough vault]

Well then no voice filter for you :c

[median steeple]

pretty sure the current helm/mask combo in the bundle just muffles your voice like all the other gas masks

[rough vault]

^

[fleet zealot]

welp

keeping the eyepatch

[rough vault]

[median steeple]

pretty sure the last helm to have a voice filter died rotation

i forgot the name

fuck

[fleet zealot]

i might just order some taco bell cause chipotle is expensive for what you get

[median steeple]

taco bell

[rough vault]

Psyker's black nsvigator helm and ogryn's bane rebreather

I think zealot's only voice filter helm is the halo?? I could be wrong tho

[median steeple]

I think there is another but I just cant put my finger on it

[fleet zealot]

taco bell doesn't hurt my staomach

arbys and panda do

[median steeple]

I can get half way through a dinner for one meal from panda hut before I start decaying

stuff just kills me

[shy river]

fills the hunger gauge but take 1d4 necrotic damage

[fleet zealot]

i was peer pressured by roommates to get panda with them and i nothing I got was good and they didn't even have soy sauce

and arbys, arbys is literally that mr krabs meme about it

[median steeple]

ah yes the classic of them forgetting the soy sauce

the only thing good from them is the lemon chicken and chow mein

this helmet died last rotation iirc

the only one for zealot to have actual voice modulation

[fleet zealot]

NOO

they actually had no soy sauce

i asked

and they were like "yea we don't have any of the packets"

[median steeple]

what? lmaoo

never seen that before

[fleet zealot]

ikr

[fleet zealot]

the chow mein tasted like the oil was used 10 years ago it wasn't good

[median steeple]

out of anything to run out of soy sauce is not one of them I would say

[fleet zealot]

i got sweet and sour chicken, chowmein, egg roll, and cream cheese wontons

nothing was worht

[coarse birch]

ggs @royal vortex \

[fleet zealot]

and I didnt' even pay for it

[median steeple]

prob a shit place

that or my place just has great chow mein

[fleet zealot]

and it wasn't worth

[fleet zealot]

oil quality is a big thing

I worked being the opening/closer at taco bell and did so much fryer work I can taste the quality of oil from the food

[median steeple]

augh

maybe its an american thing? I cant eat fast food when I go to the states

tried In and out once since I heard it was good

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/j6aqhx @south folio @ripe quest @coarse birch

new throwing knives meta

[coarse birch]

yeah thats kinda cool

not sure how practical it is

[royal vortex]

i stood still and typed out my shock at this while a dude got netted and then burstered

worth it

[coarse birch]

anytime i open chat i get netted

[ripe quest]

What am I looking at here

[royal vortex]

i was gettin netted without any counterplay

[coarse birch]

infernus applies to tknives

[royal vortex]

because i would desync

silent trapper walks up to me on my screen

[coarse birch]

he missed the headshot and procced infernus

[royal vortex]

and then i am netted

[ripe quest]

oh yeah

[royal vortex]

woohoo

[coarse birch]

i did hear one of the nets that was silent for you

[ripe quest]

you can use showstopper w/ them too

explosive knives

[royal vortex]

the net didnt even exist on my screen

[coarse birch]

so ig its not silent for everyone

[royal vortex]

this one is a ping issue

the other type is an audio bug that depends where u stand

[coarse birch]

which makes sense casue sometimes i dont hear bursters others clearly heard

[royal vortex]

its map specific

[coarse birch]

like the one i assailed into you i just did not hear

until it blew up

[royal vortex]

u assailed a burster

[royal vortex]

into me

?

[heavy arch]

@fleet zealot it worked p well in mael

[coarse birch]

oh maybe i didnt

[royal vortex]

im ngl

i had no idea what was going on for half of those later matches

my ping was just

not playing nice

[median steeple]

huh the first time I've seen 1m damage

[coarse birch]

i saw a burster go off near you and thought i knocked it into you

[royal vortex]

idk i got trolled

by me being stupid

and shitty internet

quite a bit

[coarse birch]

you were mentioning desync a lot

i didnt have too many issues other than random rollback when i was swapping weapons a lot

[royal vortex]

it would literally stop updating my game

so shit would just be running in place standing still

and then suddenly i would be back in the real world

super annoying

[coarse birch]

you left at one point

for like a minute

[royal vortex]

yea

when that happens the first like half of it im still in the game on my end

and then it finally kicks me

[coarse birch]

ive hit 1.3 but it was a stupidly long mission

that i was p much alone for

[royal vortex]

i hit 1 mil in like 25 mins with kickback gunlugger

before they nerfed the min pellet count

[heavy arch]

this was 34 mins with surge staff

[coarse birch]

i think mine was a 52 minute melee only with my trauma

[royal vortex]

arco has a clip somewhere of hordes just getting deleted from his screen by my kickback cuz he has ragdolls set to 0

[coarse birch]

that team was struggling

[heavy arch]

nice magic trick bro

[coarse birch]

also ngl its mad nice to be able to run through missions like that

doing it with randos its like 2 missions an hour

terrible for plasteel

[royal vortex]

thats how me and mankar got like 130k plasteel in a month

[fading vale]

hold W gaming is the way

[royal vortex]

u gotta FARM

[fleet zealot]

huh

what did

[coarse birch]

i will hold W

[heavy arch]

surge with perilous and wildfire

[coarse birch]

but my teammates cannot be left alone

[fading vale]

josho you missed our adventure where we all died on a far away island

[heavy arch]

but i hate surge staff so im putting this build back into the bin

[royal vortex]

i heard about it

[royal vortex]

for pure plasteel hi5 is what i do

cuz theres not enough disablers to mean like

u have actual pressure

[fading vale]

luckily we have friends with big boats

[coarse birch]

yeah maybe i should just run not histg

with randos

when i need plasteel

[royal vortex]

i cannot handle having to solo clutch repeatedly

[coarse birch]

i am just so used to it

[royal vortex]

so i do not queue for hishock in a pub most of the time

[coarse birch]

at this point

i remember i had to do it 3 missions in a row

at one point

and then they died after every time

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/civ92w

i had this clutch

this is so stupid

i keep thinking "i can't win something as stupid as this" and then i get one of these situations

[coarse birch]

ive learned at this point

its always winnable

[royal vortex]

also karmic retribution for not bringing carapace killing weapons in a pub

[coarse birch]

unless its just

comedically dumb

[royal vortex]

the game can sometimes kill u just for the sake of it with no counterplay

[coarse birch]

also agri mk 1 gaming 👀

[royal vortex]

the game where i complained "i wish there was a reason to bring a gun good at killing shooters" was me on agri iag

i had like a 2min section of 1 exe stance where all i was doing was blasting shoots with the occasional elite/special and mankar still had almost as many ranged lesser

[coarse birch]

i mostly bring it just for a change from graia/colmunus

[royal vortex]

it cleaves teammates

oh my god

dude i tilted so hard at that ogryn with the racist name

[coarse birch]

lmao

[royal vortex]

i was full on yelling in vc he made me so mad

[hollow fulcrum]

Is perfect strike worth using?

[royal vortex]

never

[coarse birch]

no

[hollow fulcrum]

damn

[coarse birch]

the damage falls off so hard the extra cleave is worthless

[royal vortex]

it's 4x cleave on crit +the no armor stop stuff but even then its p worthless

[fading vale]

all it means really is you can cleave crushers with lights on new evis

[hollow fulcrum]

does that mean wrath is useless also on heavy sword?

[coarse birch]

when someone names themselves that theres a 2 percent chance they are good

[fading vale]

yeah you don't want cleave blessings on hsword

[coarse birch]

yeah you dont need cleave on hsword

[fading vale]

except for deathblow

[coarse birch]

well yeah deathblow

[hollow fulcrum]

damn this thing is bricked to shit, RIP

[coarse birch]

but you want Power + power or power and deathblow

[royal vortex]

laz did u see my epic hs7 kill

https://streamable.com/tiadzt

look at this shit

[coarse birch]

so rampage/headtaker or headtaker/deathblow

[fading vale]

totally planned

[royal vortex]

totally planned.

[polar nexus]

i wondered if you could proce infernus with knives, it appears so. Is it the same with assail?

[royal vortex]

maybe?

no clue on that one

[coarse birch]

you cant really have you ranged weapon out with assail like you can with tknives id guess

although it would be a bit more practical

[royal vortex]

u can if ur fast enough

u can get deadly accurate and opening salvo from an infantry las proc on assail

[coarse birch]

oh huh

[polar nexus]

oh you can definitely swap to your weapon to proce a bunch of stuff: daeady accurate, opening salvo, ghost...

i usually get 2 or 3 stacks of uncanny

[coarse birch]

although that shard would also need to crit

yeah i knew about uncanny

guess i just didnt think about the other stuff

[polar nexus]

which tend to happen quite often

uncanny is more consistent tho

[coarse birch]

yeah uncanny is easy to have up

[polar nexus]

and you don't have to use a knife or a ds, it proces very well with an illisi too, as soon as you swap

[coarse birch]

deimos too

[polar nexus]

and obscurus

[coarse birch]

oh right

that wep exists

[royal vortex]

good lord i got so mad at that dude

i have had so many parries on crushers DENIED

by teammates

[coarse birch]

hey at least when i do it

its probably dead or close to dead

with DS

[royal vortex]

[coarse birch]

but yeah that guy was the ogryn of all time

[royal vortex]

he's like the 3rd or 4th dude ive seen bring a mk xix shovel and then be completely incapable of meleeing anything

[torn sluice]

yo

thoughts on this knife

i wanna replace smackdown with flesh tearer

and put crit chance on it

[polar nexus]

spec to flak, cara or unyielding

[torn sluice]

but idk what perk to swap out

[north sedge]

😬

[polar nexus]

smack to : uncanny, precog

if you go flesh tearer you want uncanny for the rending

[torn sluice]

im running backstab with throwing knifes so dealing with armor is pretty easy idk if i need more rending i think

also with col mk V

[polar nexus]

how do you deal with armor? chastise?

[torn sluice]

ya

[north sedge]

You still want uncanny

[polar nexus]

yeah

[torn sluice]

ight

ty

[polar nexus]

vet can take a pass on uncanny because of onslaught

[coarse birch]

i will never understand how people can be that bad at melee

like

its not hard to fight poxwalkers

press m1

if you cant fight a horde and 5 crushers and 3 ragers i can understand more

[ripe quest]

40% brittle isn't competing w/ 100% rending.

[polar nexus]

ah, the party pooper

[fleet zealot]

12 minutes 25 seconds

nooo

NOOOO

[polar nexus]

i take riposte and desperado and i crit all the time, flesh tearer + onslaught is a nice addition

but yeah i could run both

[ripe quest]

This conveys the entire video

[median steeple]

this is

horrible

hes fucking dying

we are watching a man consider death

[frank night]

6/10 no ad reel in backing audio

[royal vortex]

thank u mittins

[polar nexus]

oh and you need to hit wp to get that amount of rending, which may not be that easy if you're in a situation where you have multiple crushers, ragers and shooters on you

[frank night]

peel peeling peeling potatoes? Stop!

[ripe quest]

You're using a fuckin knife you better be hitting weakspots regardless

[polar nexus]

of course, but that may not be that easy if you're in a tense situation

[north sedge]

Hit them funny bones

[fleet zealot]

this cheese eating horror is brought to you by raid shadow legends

[royal vortex]

im not playing ogryn i dont have to listen to it

[ripe quest]

mmm yes the tense situation will cause me to aim lower than normal

[frank night]

peeling peeling peeling potatoes? Stop!

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/lux4qg

just do this

[polar nexus]

dodge a lot, slide, make mistakes

[coarse birch]

But my lacerate

[ripe quest]

You're not gonna have like, 100% accuracy for sure but you don't need to have 100% accuracy to stack Uncanny

[royal vortex]

slice

[frank night]

why has the premium store added a slowed + reverb option

for the voices

[fleet zealot]

There is no game I love playing more while i'm shitting my brains out after eatin 36 slices of american cheese than raid shadow legends

[fleet zealot]

do you change your vertical level

[coarse birch]

It hits at 5 am man

[polar nexus]

what do you mean?

i have a problem aiming heads yeah

[fleet zealot]

dodging and aiming is horizontal with knife, only going up and down for bigger mobs but you should never go below poxwalker head level except for dogs on the floor

[polar nexus]

i tend to lower my aim

[fleet zealot]

bad habit

[royal vortex]

why not

[polar nexus]

i wish i could correct that

[frank night]

the court is not considering ur greasy eel finger levels of self-control at this time

[coarse birch]

Hey

Rude

[royal vortex]

what the hell

paying real money to look like i found a really decorated trash bag to wear

is worth it

[median steeple]

modern urban camo

dressing like a pile of garbage

[olive raven]

average zealot

[royal vortex]

a very ornate pile of trash

there's also knives on the back

that are cool and thematic because i run throwing knives

[frank night]

cryonic rod

[polar nexus]

you need the golden pimp pants

[royal vortex]

i have them

[coarse birch]

Vacuum capsule

[royal vortex]

but i wanted the peg leg

[polar nexus]

i wish i bought them

[royal vortex]

so TRUE

[fleet zealot]

i got the peg leg too

[royal vortex]

theyll release a gold torso cosmetic one day

and then i can look funny

[solar gorge]

you ain't a real one if you're not rolling with the zealot chainmail crop top

[coarse birch]

You already look funny josho

[royal vortex]

wtf

[spare dome]

so true

[polar nexus]

how does the app for buying remotely work?

is it web only?

[spare dome]

there's a bobbing bird on the other end that taps the keyboard

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-drinking-bird-keyboard-the-simpsons-gif-8025433

[blazing fossil]

funny looking squirrels

[fleet zealot]

ur a funny looking

[blazing fossil]

i want ferrets, but afraid my cats might eat them

[fleet zealot]

it's possible but you have to supervise and introduce them slowly overtime

how ferrets and cats interact is wildly different and ferrets have a tendency of either annoying cats till they snap or triggering the cats prey drive

of course, like cats and dogs, it's just something that you have to go through

bold claim

should i test it

I HATE MY AUTISM holy fuck

i can't decide what to eat cause so many options LOOK good

[median steeple]

wraps

god

I want a wrap

[fleet zealot]

i think im just gonna order 25$ of taco bell cause I can get like 3 meals out of that

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/puffer-fish-what-the-heck-gif-24866376

[royal vortex]

blazing piety crusher slander

[fleet zealot]

things are too viable smh

[coarse birch]

man i havent used piety in a minite

i like momentum too much

[fleet zealot]

i'm just martyrdom for life

the psychological effect it has on me is huge

[ornate bone]

Homie asks about TDR on crit or second wind instead of getting both

Interrogator, mind-whack his peepee

[sharp zodiac]

Aauughh my head

I ran out of canned bread

[coarse birch]

bars?

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

I got hit by a metal pole getting the mail

It was loose and unfortunately I was too tall

[coarse birch]

did you get hit by it or did you walk into it

[sharp zodiac]

..walk into it

[coarse birch]

what does this have to do with canned bread

also

[sharp zodiac]

The canned bread was filler

[ornate bone]

Huh

We got a writer among us

A storyteller

[coarse birch]

luna you make sense roughly 70% of the time

[sharp zodiac]

I just add in what happens daily in my life

Even if it doesn't correlate

[ornate bone]

You run out of canned bread daily?

[coarse birch]

going from walking into a pole and then realizing you had no bread is a unfortunate series of events

[sharp zodiac]

I forgot I had it

[coarse birch]

you forgot you had it

and then realized you had none

[sharp zodiac]

Yes

I ate the last one

And I'm out of creamer

So this will be my last coffee

[coarse birch]

what do you have

[sharp zodiac]

I have a stuffed animal named Steve who watches me cook

Had him since childhood

[coarse birch]

thats nice

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

My life isn't always random

Except for Tuesdays

[coarse birch]

is steve not there on tuesdays

[sharp zodiac]

Genuinely shit just happens on Tuesdays

He's always there

Tied him to the wall

[coarse birch]

uh

did he move

otherwise

[sharp zodiac]

Nah

He keeps falling

[vivid hawk]

Just made this, thoughts?

[coarse birch]

i see

[coarse birch]

p good

if your running sweep i would go blazing piety build

[coarse birch]

might need to lower this to a 60%

[sharp zodiac]

Oh come on that makes sense

[vivid hawk]

Been thinking about experimenting with a crit cd reduction build using chorus

[coarse birch]

i guess id need to see where steve is

to understand how he is falling

[timber hound]

how good are crushers?

[coarse birch]

v good

[vivid hawk]

I love me crusher

[coarse birch]

its a very well rounded weapon

[vivid hawk]

Highly recommend

Combo oriented weapon, so not unga bunga friendly

[timber hound]

bought this one to get its moveset, etc and it happens to be good stats wise?

[copper hawk]

Low damage

[timber hound]

dmg is on the lower side?

[copper hawk]

Sad..

2 the shredder

[coarse birch]

i might roll for higher damage only because crusher is hella easy to make

[vivid hawk]

There is a crusher guide written by Josho in the pins, worth checking out

[sharp zodiac]

He's on the counter by the entrance

[coarse birch]

unless the difference between 75 and 68 is non existent

[sharp zodiac]

I only taped him up because I had 4 rolls and I wanted to use some

[onyx solar]

usable, you think?

[sharp zodiac]

Yzah

E

[onyx solar]

yzahe

[coarse birch]

yeah thats good

[coarse birch]

then why did you say he was falling

[copper hawk]

I have paid Hadron 100 plasteel 2 brick that hammer

[sharp zodiac]

Because I kept knocking him off

[copper hawk]

[median crow]

literally the first thing I see the instant I log in

[sharp zodiac]

He's there for comedy

[onyx solar]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-dread-loathing-gif-12805227

[sharp zodiac]

And comedically timed funnies he'll be there

[coarse birch]

is there a laugh track when you knock him off

[sharp zodiac]

Yes

The generic 80s sitcom kind

[coarse birch]

whenever i hear a laugh track i dont think anything of it but when i think about it they are kinda out of place to me

[onyx solar]

@copper hawk I hope you stub your toe really bad

[fleet zealot]

what about the well endowed lassies?

[copper hawk]

Keep gambling

[coarse birch]

if you get thrust as the last blessing

its fine

flak is good

[onyx solar]

if, lol

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/atsuko-kagari-akko-akko-happy-akko-celebrating-akko-is-the-winner-gif-22434151

[coarse birch]

or slaught/headtaker

[ornate bone]

He will meowspeak insults at you

[onyx solar]

you have cat to be kitten me right meow

[copper hawk]

This is pawsome

That hammeowr is absolutely clawful

[onyx solar]

momentum 4

i hope you stub your toe twice!

[coarse birch]

o7

[sharp zodiac]

Try watching them without laugh tracks

Equivalent to when your old man starts talking about people's race at the dinner table

[coarse birch]

well like if i see a show that i know has laugh tracks i might notice but if they just made a newer sitcom without them would i notice

do new sitcoms even have them

i dont watch sitcoms

[sharp zodiac]

Idk

[spare dome]

lol

[sharp zodiac]

Haven't watch them either

[spare dome]

i totally forgot about that penance

just .. didnt shoot that game apparently

[coarse birch]

i also forgot that existed

what melee

[cinder roost]

stelf

[sharp zodiac]

Too many orgyn's

Can't see the weapon

[spare dome]

was crit taxing

[coarse birch]

damn tax is not what i would have guessed for getting that penance

[sharp zodiac]

TAX

[vivid hawk]

which keystone for mk15 evis?

[sharp zodiac]

Any

[placid hedge]

Should I pick it up? I'm normally an XV enjoyer and not sure how the II compares anymore.

[sharp zodiac]

Depends on your blessings

[sharp zodiac]

You could go momentum or martyr

[spare dome]

i think the better question is what was my ranged

and it was a flamer

two plasma vets on the team

it kinda makes sense i didnt need it

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[placid hedge]

Anything to change on it? Was thinking Wrath to Rampage for sure and maybe a flak perk

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[placid hedge]

Shred decent on it?

[sharp zodiac]

It's nice for blazing piety build

[vivid hawk]

the momentum build in the pins still good?

[sharp zodiac]

Should be

[vivid hawk]

btw, would it be piety viable if I swapped out rampage for shred, or would you want both preferrably?

[ornate bone]

Shred and rampage is nicer

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah, even if SS is nice on the old

[ornate bone]

The mk15 already has a shitload of cleave and a damage cap of apparently 4

[sharp zodiac]

Rampage is all you need

Then shred is good for peity

I got my marks mixed up again

[vivid hawk]

so is SS kind of a waste on the 15?

[ornate bone]

It only raises the stagger cleave

And it has plenty of that already getting buffed by rampage

[fleet zealot]

perfect strike is the only "good" cleave blessing for 15

[ornate bone]

Otherwise it'd get things like 12 cleave

Perfect strike chads rise up

[vivid hawk]

was hoping this evis was good enough to quit looking

the grind continues

[timber hound]

what are the crusher modifiers in order of relevance?

[rocky marsh]

how lonh does this last, also it reset on reload?

[north sedge]

there's an in depth crusher guide in the pins

[polar nexus]

yes it reset on reload, but yeah you should the speed in the psykh

[timber hound]

I'm on it but can't find the stats order

Alright, looks like defences is the dump stat

[ornate bone]

Yep

This roll is what the agitator calls "poggereth"

[north sedge]

always is

[timber hound]

Brunt brunting:

what is the order of relevance for stats?

[fleet zealot]

damage, penetration, crowd control, power output, defences

[timber hound]

dmg -> ? -> ? -> ?

[fleet zealot]

defences being the only one that doesn't increase dps

[timber hound]

I seem to be getting mid weapons today 😂

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

holy fuck that is the middest of mid

[ornate bone]

Midlife crisis? Yeah, I'd have a crisis if my life was mid too

[median steeple]

what turning 40 does to mf

[ornate bone]

||I love joke theft||

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-sea-lion-explode-explosion-scream-gif-25321526

[ornate bone]

Me when I turn 40 and instantly lose all hair on top of my scalp

[polar nexus]

nothing, i turned 41 and i still look like George Clooney

[median steeple]

god genes

[ornate bone]

I want to look like Madds Mikelsen or however it's spelled

Man's got that charm

[timber hound]

Midds Midleson

[ornate bone]

You dare

[timber hound]

I tried 😂

[ornate bone]

Young men should be Gaspard Ulliel, old men Madds, and decrepit mummy-tier men in a sarcophagus

When I turn 90 I join the souls in the Nile and brag about my life expectancy forever

[stiff mirage]

mads mikkelsen

[timber hound]

https://tenor.com/9rGo.gif

[ornate bone]

Then they get mad because they all died before 40, kick me out and I reincarnate as a weasel

[stiff mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/clifford-unger-mads-mikkelsen-wink-winking-cliff-gif-23829648

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/so-true-choomfie-true-choomfie-so-choomfie-choomfie-gif-26799217

[ornate bone]

Bro didn't have to do me with that wink

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-losing-my-grip-on-reality-i-have-gone-clinically-insane-my-descent-to-madness-is-complete-ive-gone-completely-mental-i-am-beyond-the-point-of-no-return-gif-23191724

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/choom-choomfie-wake-up-good-morning-cyber-punk-gif-26870775

[timber hound]

Where do you leave Henry Cavill, and he is quite relevant because of possible Warhammer 40K series

[ornate bone]

Henry is the body goal

[timber hound]

pfff, I'm too old for that

[copper hawk]

henry has been doing warhammer

since he was literally a lil glooper

he's the person we want

we won the lottery

[timber hound]

yeah

[ornate bone]

I bet he plays tau

[copper hawk]

some1 who's a professional actor who's been actin 5 ever

noh

he plays Custodes

he's like

a gigantic warhammer nerd

he's been nerdin about it consistently his whole actin career

moreso recently w the amazon thing

[ornate bone]

Man whom doesn't worship blue alien wife with mech is not man

[copper hawk]

we won the lottery of gw findin some1 who reads the books/knows the lore/plays the tabletop

[ornate bone]

And isn't stinky

[timber hound]

and was given full liberty to do as they want, without the stupid pandering

[fair igloo]

What's a good zealot charge melee build that can easily deal with hordes/cara but can still do well against specials? Thammer + Revolver?

[copper hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Lrr2uS6t8&pp=ygUaaGVucnkgY2F2aWxsIHdhcmhhbW1lciA0MGs%3D

Joey Batey and him fought

As in like

did tabletop together

JB plays Necrons

[ornate bone]

Didn't they have to wipe shit from the seats of Magic the Gathering tournaments at some point?

[copper hawk]

iirc Cavill helped him make his army

[copper hawk]

#zealot-class message

[fair igloo]

oh wow there's a zealonomicon now :O

[copper hawk]

noh

josho is just one of uz old timerz

and uber knowledgeable

w too meowny hourz..

on diz stimky gam..

[copper hawk]

we have zealot elderz

no zealonomicon yette..

[ornate bone]

Me looking at your mom

[fair igloo]

So crusher + revolver? :o

[timber hound]

Let me introduce you to Midds Bricked 😂

[fleet zealot]

me looking at your dad

[ornate bone]

Holy shit you found him

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-stare-look-driving-car-gif-27670320

[timber hound]

I have been told good things about Columnus too

I'm planning to get one, eventually, RNG permitting

[fair igloo]

ooh i always forget that classes other than vet have access to those weps

[sterile stone]

@ripe quest Soon™️

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/sharkcat-gif-25364525

[fleet zealot]

i need to order me food to eat

but... i am indecisive asf

options overwhelm

[fair igloo]

Okay, is this a decent crusher? I'm trying to follow the guide

[timber hound]

I found a strange trio that I joined, as if one person was playing the 3 characters, good thing it was in heresy difficulty, I was going to leave but decided to carry a bit

[fair igloo]

What curios do I want to run on zealot?

[fleet zealot]

people really gonna start multiboxing darktide?

[fleet zealot]

martyrdom wounds, mix of toughness/hp for everything else

perks being hp, toughness, and either sniper, gunner, or corruption resist (or ordo dockets)

[north sedge]

3 toughness or 2 toughness 1hp, wounds if martydom

[fair igloo]

I'm assuming i want to build a columnus IAG the same way i would build oen for vet?

or the guns in general

[median steeple]

Shartk

[ornate bone]

Marty enjoyers toss 2 wound 1 health

[timber hound]

2 toughness + 1 hp is usually the way to go, 2~3 gunners resist, fill up with more +5% HP/tougness and you got yourself a solid survivability

[fleet zealot]

no we dont

[median steeple]

I like 2 wounds 1 toughness

[fair igloo]

I guess the upside for martyrdom builds is that it's probably really easy to farm good wound curios

[ornate bone]

Silence sinner

[ornate bone]

Wouldst that the Master slappedth thee with a wet fish blessed in the shrine of Saint Messelina

[fair igloo]

Is this salvageable? sprint to flak or manics and speedload to dumdum?

[ornate bone]

Pilgrim.

[rocky marsh]

LTG keeps on using words he don't know the meaning of just to sound smart

[median steeple]

Bro im was staring at LFG for the longest time trying to figure out what that meant

[fair igloo]

thoughts btwww?

[median steeple]

epic fighting game moment

[ornate bone]

Sprint to flak, either blessing to dumdum

[north sedge]

dude rage quit before round 1 was over

[sage river]

Is this worth grabbing?

[ornate bone]

I'd change stripped down on zealot

[fair igloo]

So unsalveagableeee got it

[north sedge]

stamina is meh on zealot

[ornate bone]

It's a max stamina roll with gunners

[sage river]

I don't like gunners

[median steeple]

I would grab it and save for the small chance stam becomes something worth

[fair igloo]

I mean that's the best thing you could hope for when it comes to stamina curios

[median steeple]

just because of the 20% gunner

[sage river]

Isn't that chance guarunteed because of the fact that I can just swap it out? or is that not how trinkets work

[fair igloo]

Also, what would be a good melee charge skill tree for zealottt? ik like nothing about this class

[median steeple]

only the 3 smaller perks can be changed

the major effect is stuck on

[north sedge]

he's saying if they make it so you actually ever need extra stamina, currently it's not that useful

[hushed knoll]

Time for bedge

[north sedge]

it is 5:41

[hushed knoll]

When has that ever stopped you

[north sedge]

most times?

[hushed knoll]

If you can imagine tomato candles then you can imagine going to bed at 5:41

[north sedge]

i didnt have to imagine it

you did

and then i googled it

and well, they exist

[hushed knoll]

Who the fuck wants their room smelling like tomatoes

It's unnatural

[north sedge]

lol

tomatoes, famously unnatural

[median steeple]

so true

[hushed knoll]

Like it's the same thing as lighting a pile of tomatos on fire

And breathing in the smoke

[median steeple]

whar

[north sedge]

i mean roast tomatoes are a thing

[hushed knoll]

That's not the point

[fair igloo]

Okay i'm just gonna put together a random build and hope it's good

[sage river]

Might put the 20% Gunner DR on this

Wounds are always good on builds that rely on being left with paper skin and glass bones

[north sedge]

only on marty

otherwise you're just making sure you have less defense and go down more

[hushed knoll]

I stand by this

Not the Iran part

I meant heroin

[north sedge]

you stand by that part especially

[hushed knoll]

It's not

Iran

[fair igloo]

Is this build decent for a crusher/columnas iag build?

or crusher/revolver

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-cyberpunk-choomfie-drink-up-gif-11663548510510602988

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/1148583910691836006/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH.gif

[north sedge]

i would try to get sustained assault

[fleet zealot]

it's sunday

[north sedge]

dont need bleed for the emp or masters ret

[hushed knoll]

[fair igloo]

Really? hmm

what other thing should I drop to get sustained assault?>

[median steeple]

what a week

cap' its only tuesday

oh god

[hushed knoll]

What

It's Sunday

[median steeple]

that must suck

[fair igloo]

I'm just gonna go ask in ogryn chat 💔

[hushed knoll]

It's impossible for it to be tuesday