zealot-class

[ornate bone]

He saw my loner aura and got racist

[sterile stone]

Mans was not digging the vibes you set at all

[gray ice]

that'll learn ya

how dare you play the game

[fair flax]

Jesus I decided to go for 2 different cdr reduction talents

the backstab one and the dmg taken one

the backstab one is super noticeable

The 1% dmg taken converted to CDR though?

EAAAAGH no

[rigid trellis]

the crit one is the best one if you’re using chastise

[fair flax]

I mean, yeah but then I have to dedicate to w weak keystone pipeline 😦

I can chastize behind a horde and get another free chasize or 2

[gray ice]

martyr's purpose is dogwater don't use it

[fair flax]

ikr

[gray ice]

either take backstab or crit cdr

[fair flax]

backstab!

purpose needs to be like...10% for it to matter

[rigid trellis]

how about both

[fair flax]

Tried, was shitty

purpose doesn't do much

[rigid trellis]

i meant crit and backstab cdr

[fair flax]

if I could reach both I would

[gray ice]

I mean I think in the grand scheme marty's purpose could technically be useful as an oh shit node, particularly with chorus

[fair flax]

But I have to lose martyrdom to do it

[gray ice]

but it has to compete with other cdr that doesn't require that, among other things

[fair flax]

I mean IDK I could go without a cap

But I think martyr is worth it

[gray ice]

considering all of our caps are super good, I wouldn't do that

and if you aren't, you should really get the atk speed modifier with marty

[fair flax]

Tried the momentum one for a while, it was OK

Even with a everything=dodge build it was still meh compared to martyrdom

The crit capstone looks good but I can tell you need to go bleed/crit to make that work

dedicated build

[gray ice]

not really

piety can be used with anything because it's main thing isn't the dmg it's the cdr use, BUT you can also put on weapons with good crit scaler to really juice em

for raw dmg, marty is the way to go, but momentum offers a lot of consistency and buffs to almost every aspect of your kit

[polar nexus]

i use ovenproof plugin

[gray ice]

bleed isn't ever really something you build around, scourge just happens to be a node that causes bleed, but you're using it for the crit

[polar nexus]

anyone can tell me what is the real number?

oh @royal vortex i made that for my ws vet

[sage river]

Ssault Chainsword
Evil's Claw" Sword
Rauma force staff

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mummy-returns-allah-islam-kiss-muslim-gif-17271025

smite psykers be like:

https://tenor.com/view/electric-shock-homealone-gif-8081330

[sage river]

What even is the point of smite

[rigid trellis]

scab only mostly melee

and the odd rager pack of 20

[gray ice]

smite is a great crowd control tool, the problem is that psykers forget they can turn it back off for some reason

they treat it worse than they did assail, where they take out them hands and then never put it away

[rigid trellis]

such an annoyance when they start smiting hordes of pox walkers

[median steeple]

the funny

thats all

[delicate shadow]

there are situations where it's actually good

it's just mfs will spam it on poxwalker waves and pretend it's better dps than just fuckin' one shotting them

also tends to slow down gameplay or cause silly mispositioning if you don't wanna slow down to a crawl

should really only be used on rager waves or other similarly high pressure elite groups and even then only for long enough to create enough room to swap to dps again

[ornate bone]

I've had uh

Psykers smiting enemies behind bomber grenades

Thanks, I didn't want them to walk over the fire or reach my melee

Gotta care for the poor things

[median steeple]

smite feels the best stun locking ragers and maulers

I love it for that

[delicate shadow]

yea and zapping bulwarks

all the talk I've seen trying to sell smite as being uber high dps though is just...no

[median steeple]

Yeah I wish the single target did more damage but it being a CC tool is fine

Plus it allowed surge to become decent instead

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-would-have-been-here-sooner-i-got-electrocuted-three-times-chris-elliot-roland-roland-schitt-gif-20775856

the poxburster

[sterile stone]

I've gradually learned to shoot their legs now

[delicate shadow]

(it kills the veteran)

[spare talon]

remember to send your pox hounds into the stratosphere

they enjoy it

[native cargo]

@sharp zodiac

Franch

[native cargo]

Love how this game has progressively made more people downgrade the quality of the game's graphics because its poorly optimized. Hope they do at least something about it

[spare talon]

i downgraded mine for two reasons

so i could get up to 90 fps consistently regardless whats on screen

and so i could do so where my gpu was not going above 85 celcius, since my case has shit circulation

plus ive used a glorified microwave for my entire life until a few months ago
very low graphics is something not unfamiliar to me lol

[native cargo]

That makes sense

I understands

[ember yew]

what card are you using tho

[rocky marsh]

HADRON BLESSED ME

WHAT DO

change out both blessing to t4?

limb splitter to headtaker

[ember yew]

bm (4) wont give you anything

its 2.5 weakspot crap damage increase

[polar nexus]

Keep bm3 and one slot open for the future

[rocky marsh]

okie, should i grind for headtaker 4? or 3 is enough

[ember yew]

3 is enough, replace with IV later

[polar nexus]

Yep

You'll find it soon

[rocky marsh]

nah im going to straight roll for 4 if its a increase

as in

take the bad rashads

and try to grind for 4

yeah

[open pollen]

Some damn heretic tried to fill in the Chicago Rat Hole and I am LIVID

[native cargo]

This game do be having your pc feel like a toaster oven sometimes

Maybe I'll downgrade my graphics until they release some kinda optimization patch or something

[rocky marsh]

what caxe combos are there

[native cargo]

light spam, heavy spam, then the various variants of light, heavy, heavy, light, light, heavy, etc etc

If you mean loadout wise

well

uhhh...gun

[rocky marsh]

nou i mean the actual attacks

what do i heavy against? cara?

[native cargo]

Uhhh for crushers you can heavy spam to death I think

[spare talon]

Rx 7600

[native cargo]

I got one grade under you then me thinks with the rx 6700 xt

[ember yew]

what ver of amd adrenaline?

im also on 6700xt

[native cargo]

Lovely piece of hardware that gpu is

[spare talon]

The software?

[ember yew]

but 85* looks really ouch

yeah drivers

[spare talon]

Should be the current

Fully up to date

[native cargo]

Pretty hot in the case for 85 and above

[ember yew]

at this moment im on this one

[spare talon]

Idk I'm not at my pc

[ember yew]

but i think for 90 fps and mid settings

card does not go above 65 or 70 (hotspot)

il check later

fsr enabled, RTX off

[spare talon]

Mine stays at 72ish with my settings

[ember yew]

its just that the old drivers are shet and works bad with Darktide

but if he's latest using ones, then its ok

[spare talon]

There's only 3 fans since the case doesn't really allow for more due to lack of appropriate sized fans

[ember yew]

also, i limited fans speed to 40% max (around 2000rpm or something)

since i dont like noise they make

[native cargo]

I run the game at low. Even though my pc can handle many other games at higher settings. Darktide be a game I like but the performance has been bad since traitor curse part 2

[ember yew]

yeah darktide perfomance is horrible no doubt there

[native cargo]

It's. Just sadge

[spare talon]

But besides the temp thing, I set it to be that low for when auric really rears its head with its enemy density and particle intensity

[ember yew]

maybe FSR 3.0 will help

[spare talon]

So I can stay at 80-90 fps even then

[native cargo]

I get that

Did some auric maelstroms and it was awful fps wise

[spare talon]

Even if these modded extra low graphics sometimes look really fucking weird

[ember yew]

FSR 3.0 so far looks godlike and maybe it will help tremendously in darktide case

[spare talon]

Like some textures have some sort of projected effect that makes them and stuff bordering them seem extra low quality, like classic doom textures but blurry

[proper arch]

Hello Rejcets! What are You guys opinion on the heavy eviscerator? Is this weapon op? I play so aggressive whith this weapon and feel like it destroys everything🤔😅

[native cargo]

the heavy evis is cool

kinda nice

[native cargo]

Classic doom darktide experience :o?

[frosty elm]

Anyone doing monstrosity?

[ornate bone]

People who denounce ironhelm, I have a question

[ornate bone]

I wish I found a way to make the textures actually resemble Runescape

Only problem is Runescape created the low-res textures

Here we just make them blurry until they become unrecognizable

Runescape was low-res, but still had its own definition of visual clarity that can't be achieved here

[native cargo]

Since no one has replied I will partake in this qusetion even though idc if people use ironhelm or crucis

[rocky marsh]

waht gun can kill crushers effectively?

am running caxe

[native cargo]

bolter can. I use it on hsword and reserve it for crushers/bulwarks/bosses maybe the occasional trapper/sniper

[rocky marsh]

is it called "bolter"?

[native cargo]

well boltgun in dt

[rocky marsh]

this one?

its the best weapon for crushers?

[native cargo]

If you can handle bulwarks well enough the old revolver can do it too

[rocky marsh]

but revolvo i feel, can only kill like 2 crushers

[ornate bone]

Too late, I exited my computer and don't have the "🏳️‍🌈?" meme on my clipboard anymore

[native cargo]

Fack

[rocky marsh]

what cara + maniac?
then what perks

i mean

blessings

what are the dump stat(s)

[native cargo]

Uhhh I'd go for pinning/cavalcade or shattering impact. At my bolters got that blessing combo

Thinking of the stats

Damage/reload speed/collateral are ones I prioritized with mobility and stability as dump stats. Though I would prefer stability over mobility

[rocky marsh]

thanks! just want to ask, is it better than the shotguns for crushers?
i remember reading one of the meta shotguns being very good for crushers

[hot kelp]

Anybody have build recommendations? I’ve been playing Zealot for awhile on the same build and want to expand and try something else.

[main citrus]

What build you running?

[blazing fossil]

My fav zealot build is Heavy Sword 6 and bolter, use the HS6 for literally everything but crushers and snipers. Take blades of faith into purity and chorus. Movement keystone. Your HS6 if rolled right can 1 shot mutants and 2 shot ragers

[native cargo]

I think the burning stacks can be good on crushers but I kinda just use the bolter/revolver to try and burst them down. They burst in different ways with their blessings. old revolver is more slow and focused to try and get a crit plus the rending on em, while the bolter is get in close and mag dump into the whole pack

while trying your best to hit it instead of letting a round or five miss c:

chastise bolter I should clarify because when you chastise with bolter its great at deleting ogryn elites

[ornate bone]

I roll with surgical on my bolter because I need to clown on ranged enemies every now and then

[rocky marsh]

then actually i think i would enjoy the bolter
thanks alot for the detailed response
why pinning instead of shattering impact?

[native cargo]

I specifically pair bolter with hsword in my loadouts and hsword lets me have zoomies

[blazing fossil]

Same, this is the way

[rocky marsh]

is hsword similar to caxe?
decent mobility and one taps man sized stuff (mostly)

[native cargo]

But thats cus hsword I enjoy and rashad caxe is like the hsword as well with some small differences

[blazing fossil]

get deathblow and headtaker

[copper hawk]

Ur sti.ky

War. Rat

EAT A SOCK

[native cargo]

So pinning adds power to when things are pinned or staggered or whatever which is just guaranteed with the bolter since it bolts.

So its free extra damage from my understanding (could be wrong cus im not a smart stats rat just one that uses stuff said by other smarties)

[blazing fossil]

heavy sword 6 you spam heavies on elites or mixed horde, lights for trash, with a combat axe you only use heavies for maulers/crushers

[rocky marsh]

ah the tooltip only said stagger
wait i don't assume you are going to stagger crushers with that gun? o.o

[native cargo]

and cavalcade or shattering impact is paired with pinning because it assists with getting a crit or giving brittleness

[native cargo]

nah its the stuff around them.

[hot kelp]

So the heavy sword is still valid I heard it got nerfed?

[native cargo]

though crushers do get staggered by bolters

[rocky marsh]

i see, atm for gunners i do like heavy into light
else it takes three lights

[rocky marsh]

but i thought we are specifically just shooting the crushers?

[native cargo]

Idk how it works specifically but I always hit top stack of pinning fire when the crusher is surrounded by a crowd which they usually are. The bolt round can like

whiz by enemies and stagger them because its a bolter

You're shooting a rocket more than an actual bullet

[rocky marsh]

Ohhh

[solar gorge]

if they get surpressed it's stagger

[native cargo]

Yee

[rocky marsh]

sometime the director just gives you 6 crushers and nothing else :v

[solar gorge]

anything will start cowering if a bolter shot lands within 3 meters of them

[rocky marsh]

shotgunners*

[native cargo]

I staggered crushers before with the bolter when magdumping but honestly you probably will kill a good few before you run outta ammo

or highly damage them

chastise bolter is the way

[native cargo]

btw you are

gay cat

[solar gorge]

you can kill 2-3 crushers with PF proccing, in one clip

[native cargo]

FS got the idea of the bolter down at least

[copper hawk]

Kill u

[native cargo]

Anyone hearing an armored explosive in a bullet shape whizing by their head will shit themselves

hence the bad smell from the poxwalkers

well extremely bad smell

[solar gorge]

poxwalkers won't be affected by any kind of suppression

[rocky marsh]

so caval and pinning fire

thanks dood

[native cargo]

well something will be shitting themselves

not gonna be me

welcome btw

[copper hawk]

I wouldnt

Nah id win

I do not fearz rocket dat missez me..

It missed me !!

The emperor willed it..

[rocky marsh]

quick question, gunners have 1500 hp?

[fading vale]

or 1200

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-sister-warhhammer40k-sisters-of-battle-adepta-sororitas-infantry-gif-22299498

[fading vale]

depends on the gunner

or is it 1200 900

fuck now I can't remember, gameslantern has it

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/necrons-warhammer-gauss-gif-24598584

[brazen linden]

would be nice to have a sister of battle class........... but meh probably not

[native cargo]

you fr

[fading vale]

1400 1200

scab being 1200

[native cargo]

We already got the groundwork for adepta sororitas class. The zealot is that buuuut

we need the cosmetics

[rocky marsh]

ah lazorr, if urm my caxe is barely missing a threshold on the 1400 gunner

hold ohn let me show u

[native cargo]

We just need FS to finally cave in and give us sister of battle oriented stuff like they did for Cadia and Krieg

[rocky marsh]

Should i grind for a bm4 or change out flak3 to flak 4?

[native cargo]

good question

[fading vale]

does this BP really matter, you should have a bunch of buffs up during mission

BM4 won't change anything but I don't think either are super important

you could just leave a free slot in case something changes

[rocky marsh]

oh yeah if i have headtaker up its three shot
my bad

poissible to 2 shot gunners?

[fading vale]

you should have momentum or marty and sustained assault right

[rocky marsh]

am running martyr running ye but no SA

[fading vale]

well I'd try to get sustained

[placid fiber]

the one for guns?!

[placid fiber]

Isn't the one for guns named sustained assault?

[fading vale]

no

[placid fiber]

Sustained something

[fading vale]

sustained is old rising conviction

[rocky marsh]

give up twbs?

[placid fiber]

No

[rigid trellis]

if you aren't using a slow weapon you don't need twbs

[placid fiber]

Personally I take the left tree with martyrdom

[fading vale]

if you want fire nades not much choice there

[placid fiber]

I gotta get my zealots a good rashad again >.>

See how it works with shroudfield

[rocky marsh]

i feel restoring faith pretty stronk too

this?

[placid fiber]

tfw your headphones are so good you can't hear your wife standing over you 2 feet away x.x

[placid fiber]

Personally I would sacrifice the 50% weakspot damage talent for 15 more toughness, but, that's the one I use

that build I mean

[fading vale]

it is strong, but yeah that

[placid fiber]

plus stun nades are great, if you even remember to use them lol

I usually forget that I have nades

[rocky marsh]

this is prob astupid reason to like immo nades but i like them because they damage crushers and bulwarks
(and make hunting grounds easier)

[placid fiber]

Fire nades would be great for hounds, yeah

[native cargo]

Not really stupid. They do well with packs of elites

It's why I use them. Plus pretty flames

[placid fiber]

I just forget I have nades, so I stick with throwing knives generally

which, somehow, I don't forget about as much... which doesn't make sense :/

[rocky marsh]

well you do have more and its practically infinite

practically

[placid fiber]

I use them more freely is probably why

[bright lagoon]

i forgot about stun nades unless im boutta die or need to clutch which is how it should be

[golden anchor]

throw knife ver gud

can do lazy body shot on snipers at 70 m

https://youtu.be/mLRbZJS5A_E

[bright lagoon]

throwing knife bad if u have revolver its just better

[golden anchor]

its alright we ahead of the curve

revolver will be deleted sometime next year after fatshark's winter break 🙂

[bright lagoon]

handcannon blessing will yeah

[rocky marsh]

confirmed?

[polar nexus]

Or you can just use knives as 10 bullets mag that is effectively infinite

[bright lagoon]

it takes ammo to recharge knives does it not?

[runic rune]

Melk is a sadist....

[golden anchor]

nah

takes balls to recharge knife

melee kill on elite and ranged is +1 per kill

[runic rune]

i don have more contracts or moni 😭

[polar nexus]

Takes killing an elite

[golden anchor]

basically infinite assuming you're not incompetent

[polar nexus]

And you can use surgical and handcannon with them

[hot kelp]

Opinions?

[polar nexus]

I hope not, I don't want to have to rely on a bolter if want to deal with carapace.

[hot kelp]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[golden anchor]

Imagine using a melee weapon to deal with carapace

couldn't be me, nope

post up and dunk on the big bois

[polar nexus]

What if want to use a claw or a hsword

[golden anchor]

People are free to be mistaken

you can always rely on your local friendly plasma carrying veteran

because it's a team game­™

[polar nexus]

No

[golden anchor]

technically there's chastise ranged

so everything works there

[polar nexus]

It's fine but I would go left to get tg on dodge

And I would change swift certainty to good balance or punishment

[hot kelp]

Ok thank you

[golden anchor]

what weapon are you using with that tree

[polar nexus]

Hsword

[golden anchor]

Take revolver or bolter for ranged then

shredder

[hot kelp]

Planned on switching to the revolver

Bolger I feel like just eats through ammo

[golden anchor]

ok then you're set

[hot kelp]

Bolter *

And the Ammo hungry Veteren gets angry

[golden anchor]

bolter ain't bad if you choose to melee specials instead

[hot kelp]

Ooo

[polar nexus]

I meant right

[hot kelp]

Ok

[golden anchor]

Also there is tech for for quickdraw bolter without knife

[polar nexus]

And punishment is good value against ragers if you don't shoot them before

[golden anchor]

Have less than full ammo in clip, swap > reload >sprint cancel

[rocky marsh]

@fading vale SA and head taker up, after 2 hits :(
with duelist up its 2 hit
wait is it possible to 1 hit then xD

[golden anchor]

maybe if you take unarmored since its on head

don't remember lol

[polar nexus]

You don't have your martyr buff yet

[rocky marsh]

VERY COOL

you guys arethe best

thanks

[royal vortex]

beautiful

[dense field]

Bleed for the Emperor is not good for this build

[polar nexus]

It won't do anything bad. But yeah. It's wasted.

[ember yew]

This build is funny, i think the guy trolled on purpose, by putting MK3 Autopistol there

[placid fiber]

I like the autopistol with martyrdom >.>

That doesn't have martyrdom

:/

[rocky marsh]

DUDE I JUST ONE TAPPED MUTIES

[steep flame]

Palworld is fun

[hot kelp]

I’m just looking to try out a badass build. That can melt most things. Yet have decent survivability. I want to move past Damnation. Try Acuric.

[dense field]

Liking things is great

[rocky marsh]

i think someone is cheating though, a procced DH just dissapeared

like dissapear

[faint cape]

easily done with shroudfield

[steep flame]

I dont think i could play all the way through it on my own though

[dense field]

But you don't try to sell it as th most powerful meta weapon

[placid fiber]

I'm not gonna lol

It's good for my specific playstyle and build with martyrdom

[ember yew]

yeah, that build is called Zealot Meta

[placid fiber]

not for all players

[ember yew]

its Zealot Meme

not meta tho

[dense field]

Zealots tend to do that, yes

[placid fiber]

^

[open echo]

hammer zealot?

[hot kelp]

That’s the build I’ve been running but really struggle with survivability

[stiff timber]

depend on your weap of choice, easiest and braindead probably evis build chorus blazing piety

[placid fiber]

thammer can 1 or 2 shot daemonhosts depending on the difficulty

[hot kelp]

Could you possibly elaborate further or point me in the right direction?

Thank you kindly

[stiff timber]

lemme see

[open echo]

this is what i run with hsword, sadly couldn't grab sustained

[dense field]

Chorus is great for people who enjoy not doing things

[open echo]

or this

[hot kelp]

What ranged weapon do you use?

[dense field]

Could you elaborate further? What situations give you trouble?

[open echo]

revi with handcannon + surigcal or columnus iag

[hot kelp]

Oh nothing really give me trouble. I’m just looking to try something new yet effective. I’ve been using the same build for awhile now. And the playstyle has gotten boring. Looking for something awesome and exciting to use end game.

[desert vessel]

just run martyrdom lol

thatl give you enough endgame excitement

[dense field]

Try out new weapons then

[desert vessel]

and massive dmg

[open echo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ae5606a-f6bb-4830-8dfd-ada22c4335de/xii-chaxe this is the most fun build for me

[stiff timber]

@hot kelp

something like this

[open echo]

point blank?

guh?

[stiff timber]

its for quick tap to special, ur not gonna aim long with surgical

[open echo]

also what abt twbs

[dense field]

Guh!

[stiff timber]

ranged is whatever u want

[hot kelp]

Appreciate all of the help, and differ t POVs

[stiff timber]

the build is not for rushing to gunners

[dense field]

Aaaand you might want to hunt some toughness curios too

[stiff timber]

u just chorus it all

[hot kelp]

Ok

[stiff timber]

spam chorus all the way and just hit hordes

swap to revolver to dispatch special

[open echo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ae8e272-1f2a-46b1-b481-4a02a591b7af/mk15-evisc what i run for new evi

[dense field]

Chorus blinds the enemies and lets you and your mates to just walk to them

[hot kelp]

For real?!

[desert vessel]

thisl give you all the excitement you need tbh, I run it with either eviscerator

[stiff timber]

look mate, im not the one needing the build, i run auric damnation everytime easy

u can have your opinion, idc

[hot kelp]

I again appreciate all the help very much!

[stiff timber]

np

[dense field]

For real

[stiff timber]

its the most braindead build for me

and people will like you

[open echo]

fair

[dense field]

It's a very powerful reposition tool

[desert vessel]

the fridge magnet is strong and boring, although you can knock bosses off edges with it

thats nice

[dense field]

If you're in a bad spot whip out your relic and walk to a better spot

[stiff timber]

i would only recommend using chorus when mixed horde though

especially mauler/charger

[dense field]

If you're in a good spot whip out your relic and give your team an overshield

I think it is time to replace gunner resistance

Corruption bothers me more

[copper hawk]

Yah otay pooglesnorf

[native cargo]

Gay cat

[blazing fossil]

beacon of purity

[dense field]

nah

[blazing fossil]

the first aura is meh, and loaner is uber meh

[tranquil onyx]

Isn't the first aura one of the best in the game? like team wide toughness resistance

I'm also not sure if I should run death spitter or Fire frenzy on this gun

[dense field]

deathspitter is power

and it actually stacks 5 times IIRC despite it never being mentioned in the tooltip

[open echo]

what does it convert to dmg wise?

[dense field]

1:1 I believe

[tranquil onyx]

yeah actually I realized that while I know that power is Damage + Stagger + Cleave I don't know if it's a 1 to 1 ratio

[blazing fossil]

its 15%, just try not to get hit

[tranquil onyx]

power is normally better than damage, but since the MKV doesn't have penetration I dunno if the higher amount that fire frenzy gives is more valuable

[open echo]

so fire frenzy is better for raw dps?

[tranquil onyx]

But if I don't get hit then I don't need to heal corruption, checkmate 🤓

I honestly just like the aura and the nodes before it

[dense field]

Fire frenzy is CLOSE damage, deathspitter is power

So it depends on your target

[open echo]

oooh

i see

[polar nexus]

Deathspitter only applies close iirc

[tranquil onyx]

it's on close range kill, but you can use the buff at longer ranges iirc

[stiff timber]

opinion to tune this one ?

either 2 perk change, or weak spot/flesh tearer change

[tranquil onyx]

isn't the bleed good if you are going high crit? since you can apply rending with uncanny strike and increase the damage?

unless it's just 8 stacks and doesn't add on successive hits

[stiff timber]

max is 16 stack iirc

so 2 crit hit and its maxed bleed right away

while scourge only add 2 stack per crit

so its 10 stack/crit now

yeah either i swap to flak++maniac perk

or change flesh tearer

not rly sure , coz 4% melee crit chance aint that bad either

[tranquil onyx]

yeah I feel you, don't have enough experience with the knife to give a solid advice

[stiff timber]

im more to change both perks

to flak+maniac

ig

since i wanna maximize blades of faith dmg

[tranquil onyx]

I would do the same

or change weakspot to flack\maniac and then look for UStrike 4+

[stiff timber]

hm

actually liking the max bleed stack

[tranquil onyx]

also is Dumdum bugged? I was testing in the grinder how far away you can trigger deathspitter, and it's around 7m(close range kill)
But dumdum applies even at like 28m

[stiff timber]

2 crit hit and a crusher would bleed to death in like 2-3 second

[copper hawk]

death splinker

[balmy sinew]

Run and Gun >> Handcannon
Reload speed >> Monstro ???

[stiff timber]

the bleed seems to be affected by weakspot damage

[south folio]

it's 1-to-1 yeah

+40% power = +40% damage, +40% cleave, and +40% stagger

and they should all be multiplicative with damage/cleave/stagger

[placid fiber]

Which is why power does nothing against staggering nurgle blessed enemies without +impact talents/blessings

[polar nexus]

Dumdum is currently bugged. It applies whatever the range is. And close kill for Deathspitter and frenzy is 8m

[polar nexus]

Flesh tearer + uncanny is fine. A good alternative to ft is riposte or precog.

[open echo]

hadron please give me precog

please

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-fuck-off-metrocopвп-gif-20027371

[sterile schooner]

so i got this as an emperor's gift...

which would you guys pick between the two

[polar nexus]

Both are good

[placid fiber]

Personally I like the left one better

more ammo

[polar nexus]

But yeah. More ammo is better

[placid fiber]

Also it has 25% flak as a base perk

[polar nexus]

The emperor does not give me good weapons...

[placid fiber]

Same

[sterile schooner]

i can swap out terrifying barrage for no respite... and i assume fire frenzy comes out on top vs deathspitter

[polar nexus]

Well I never check what I have won

[placid fiber]

I usually look at it and expect complete disappointment

[open echo]

why is crusher and bolter kinda fun

[tranquil summit]

to avoid the UI glitch where +3 stamina is really +2 stamina, does the curio have to be AT or ABOVE 76?

[haughty haven]

I like crusher when I'm having bad luck with random

Things can't kill my meat sticks when I flatten them

[jaunty lion]

Hey folks! Anyone know which combat axe is best for a martyrdom zealot?

I'm guessing it's between the Rashad and the Antax but I don't really know the difference. Going to be running it alongside an agripinaa shotgun.

[south folio]

they have the same light/heavy attack pattern but different push-attacks and specials

the rashad is faster and has marginally better finesse damage because it has the Finesse stat modifier

[jaunty lion]

Ah ok! Sounds like I'd be better off with the rashad in that case then since my build runs Shroudfield which boosts finesse damage

[fleet zealot]

Mutant has grabbed me!

[open echo]

i want this as a revi skin so badly

must be in the game files

[copper hawk]

If i were a mutant and grabbe u,

I would SmooSH U on the floore.

!!

[open echo]

real

[copper hawk]

ME

She's so ke fr..

[rocky marsh]

How much collateral do i want?

[fleet zealot]

Thats perfect

Id actually want more stability

[dense valve]

collateral increases stagger so its fine on 62, but yeah stability is not a dump stat

[rocky marsh]

aight thanks peepol

[fleet zealot]

Collateral is just stagger and bolter only needs like 60% to open bulwarks in one shot

[rocky marsh]

how mcuh stability do iwant tho

[rocky marsh]

i want to use my bolter to kill crushers (mainly)

[dense valve]

😄

[rocky marsh]

crusher and bulwark

[fleet zealot]

As much to make ads and mag dumping as consistently as possible

Having less recoil is good for ogryn packs

[dense valve]

so 80 dmg 80 reload 80 stability 75 mobility 65 collat would be the dream

then +carapace and shattering impact

[rocky marsh]

quick question, do you get more stuff from a5quickplay or a5mael

[dense valve]

well it depends what game the quickplay puts you in i would assume

[rocky marsh]

not cavalcade and pinmning fire?

[rocky marsh]

if its a5histg/

?

[dense valve]

you said you want it for crushers and bulwarks only

[rocky marsh]

ya

doesn't the bolt gun stagger crushers?

[dense valve]

with enough collateral yes

[fleet zealot]

A5 QP

Maelstrom drops the same materials as it’s difficulty

[rocky marsh]

ahhh

[rocky marsh]

65 enuf?

and i heard supression is considered stagger

[fleet zealot]

Yes

And idk where you heard the 2nd bit

Collateral you want low as possible to open up bulwarks in one shot

While*

This is about 55-65%

Which is what you want cause you want less knockback on normal mobs so you dont knock them out of your follow up shot

[slate notch]

Does anyone have/know a tierlist/ranking/guide where to find the current best weapons+blessings for zealot?

[dense valve]

so + carapace and +10 rending per projectile with shattering impact (that stacks) is going to help reduce the ttk on crusher packs and bulwark goon squads

[fleet zealot]

Yes

Not gonna match old bolter but yes

You want to chastise as well

[fleet zealot]

Pins

[dense valve]

yeah precisely, just saying this is why you would want shattering over the other blessings as a priority. cavalcade is good, sure, but i would suggest playing with it and seeing what works for you

i actually like surgical because it means you can guarantee the crit on gunner packs and 1 tap them

[fleet zealot]

Shattering is minor and isnt much better than cavalcade

Surgical is for veteran

The only blessing that matters is pinning fire

[dense valve]

i mean im stating my opinions and why

saying "surgical is for veteran" when i explained why i use it is a bit meh

[rocky marsh]

sorry am just trying to get different opinions

but yeah i basically only want to use it to kill crusher and bul

[dense valve]

so i would go shattering, pinning fire, + cara, + flak

in your use case

[fleet zealot]

The only one that matters truly is pinning

Your second doesnt matter too much

[dense valve]

the real thing that matters with running bolter, imo, is that its trash without throwing knives

one thing i just thought about that im not sure on...

[deep imp]

Any build to recommend with purgation ?

[dense valve]

when you use chastise, what is the interaction with +carapace? does it still have full effect, or because the enemy is treated as flak armour it does nothing?

[dense valve]

use throwing knives

get 80 for burn and cloud radius

• crit chance and + flak armour

spray into horde for a few secs then press chastise to delete them

the throwing knives are so you can animation cancel the swapping animation and get the flamer out instantly

blessings dont really matter on flamer so choose what you like

thats about all there is to it

[deep imp]

thanks

[rocky marsh]

@fading vale if i die too much, gameplay issue or is there a way to make the caxe build slightly tankier

i dont' die alot its jsut that i feel i go down when shit hits the fan

[copper hawk]

ME !!!!

I love balls..

[hard nexus]

check pins

oh someone already saiud that

whops

[ripe quest]

+Crit Chance is a meaningless effect for Flamer. If you're lucky with timing it's like, 2.4% faster kill times on Elites.

[rocky marsh]

mr exhil what is your opinioopn

[ripe quest]

I personally don't run TWBS on Caxe so I'd just swap it for SoC and grab Vicious Offering.

It's up to what kind of tanky you want though

[fleet zealot]

O

Oooo

My n key is broken

Wait

Anyways dont go crit chance on flamer who tf told you that

[slate notch]

Is scattershot worth on Kant Mk IX?

[dense field]

Not really. You'll be better off with power blessings

[fleet zealot]

Even if the armor is downgraded, for the purposes of perks it uses the original armor type

And for flamer playing, you just softly burst fire into hordes and they die, if they are mixed and elites you can hold down and chastise after some stack build up

Blaze away is the only blessing that matters and it helps vs big elite packs you are gonna hold down on since it does buff the burn tick

Overpressure is currently bugged but if it does get fixed it will be the next blessing

[ashen steeple]

What perk is better to replcae?

[fleet zealot]

Ehh

Probbalt specialists but you really need uncanny strike

[ashen steeple]

using it for vet with grtd bleed

[ashen steeple]

And what would replace the perk with?

[fleet zealot]

Then keep the perks and swap riposte to uncanny

That would be more impactful than any perk

[ashen steeple]

Why uncanny?

[fleet zealot]

Rending is OP

Biggest damage blessing knife has and it buffs bleed damage and it just scales great

[ashen steeple]

ok then Ill try to get it since dont have it

[analog ember]

for kanty special shot spam + blazing piety

would flechette + scattershot be ideal? 🤔

[fleet zealot]

No

Flechette doesnt synergize with kanty special fire

[analog ember]

hmm

[fleet zealot]

If you want scattershot flechette the lawbringer is better but even then you want manstopper

Over flechette

[analog ember]

flechette is that bad?

[fading vale]

on the kant flechette only applies bleed to the first thing each pellet hits

[analog ember]

yeah i heard, just thought it'd be funny stack both fire and bleed DOT even if it's only on the first enemy

[lone pecan]

I have been trying the Ironhelm for a few games now and I feel a lot more vulnerable in melee than with my Evis or Crusher, is it a skill issue?

[native nebula]

Can any1 recommend a sword? Blessings and perks for it to fall in love? It needs to be a horde clearer.

[lone pecan]

Sword sword or can it also have a chain and be big?

[fleet zealot]

Chsword dclaw or heavy sword

All of them horde clear well

[north sedge]

Skissue

[lone pecan]

[fleet zealot]

Despite all my rage i am still just a floof in a cage

[native nebula]

@fleet zealot devil claw or heavy sword

[fleet zealot]

Heavy sword goes headtaker+deathblow

[lone pecan]

How to git gut?

[fleet zealot]

Dclaw goes rampage+savage sweep

[north sedge]

With ironhelm? Mostly spam special

[native nebula]

Thanks a lot dude

[north sedge]

Dodge dancing with swings

[lone pecan]

So kind of like the crusher when you run into 10 maulers, but slower

[north sedge]

Kinda

[rocky marsh]

sorry which one is vicious offering

oh this one?

but don't heavy kill that much on caxe

hmmm

[sharp zodiac]

It's better than bleed for the emperor which only works with martyr

[spare dome]

they are running martyr tho

[sharp zodiac]

Oh.

[haughty haven]

If you want devils claw gameplay run it on a Swiss army VOC vet

Waste of a melee on a zealot imo

[north sedge]

🤔

Works on either

[brave iris]

does stunning enemies with the stun grenades really -do- anything other than make them, y'know, immobile for a bit?

[onyx solar]

they can't act, either?

[brave iris]

yes, of course.

but does it change anything regarding what damage they take?

[north sedge]

No

[onyx solar]

Nope

[north sedge]

Well, if you have pinning fire or something that stacks on stagger

[brave iris]

aight.

[slate notch]

I love devil's claw on zealot!

[haughty haven]

Just bad heavy sword

[slate notch]

Nah, I like it better tbh. Parry is awesome too.

[haughty haven]

I don't have to parry as I just kill the maulers and ragers before they can hurt me with blazing up on hsword

[spare dome]

Stun grenades have synergy with Pinning Fire and No Respite

That's it

[haughty haven]

Parry cool but loses its shine at AD as it's usually not one rager alot of times its usually 10

I use it on my vet tho and it's great.

[slate notch]

I can face multiple ragers with my devil's claw on zealot and unless I fuck it up on purpose, it's always a win. Not a fan of hsword anyway, I know it is considered one of the top weapons but somehow feels weird and clunky to me

[ripe quest]

@fading vale

[north sedge]

The perfect hammer

[brave iris]

what are some good ways to get the "find their weakness" penance?

[slate notch]

the best i could get

[prisma sigil]

Stun grenades, chastise the wicked, blazing piety, eviscerator Mk XV with Shred

Combine all that

could probably get it in one game

could also run Atrox Mk IV with Shred too if you prefer one handed light spam

[north sedge]

Chainsword

[brave iris]

alas i lack a weapon with shred. but i can definitely do the other options.

[prisma sigil]

Yea

the shred is just bonus

Either of the eviscerators, stun nades, chastise, and blazing piety

25 kills activates blazing piety, gives you extra crit chance

chastise gives you a confirmed crit

[brave iris]

why the atrox IV in particular?

[prisma sigil]

just stun a big horde mob and charge into that bitch and start swinging

[desert vessel]

yeah I did it by mistake using stun nades and fury

[prisma sigil]

it's just the axe I run on my chastise CD refresh crit build

[desert vessel]

doing shocking stuff is a pain though

still havent done it

[prisma sigil]

The strat is to get shitloads of crits by spamming one hits so you're constantly chastising and keeping your toughness up

[brave iris]

shocking stuff?

[desert vessel]

shocking stuff is the penance that wants you to kill i forget how many stunned enemies within i forget how many seconds

in one go

I think the best way to do it is with stun nades and flamer

[brave iris]

weird i don't recall even seeing that one

is it a Redacted?

[desert vessel]

have you gone down to the redacted penances?

yes

its redacted

[brave iris]

ah that's why, i haven't looked there in a while

[desert vessel]

those are generally the more annoying ones

[brave iris]

yea... like the psyker "knock enemies off a ledge so they die in certain amount of seconds", i forget the specifics but my god

[desert vessel]

psyker has the worst penances imo

by far

[sharp zodiac]

Why do some of them have to be private match only

[prisma sigil]

They aren't so bad

[brave iris]

maybe so you don't ruin the match for publics

[sharp zodiac]

I'm gonna strangle someone's pet goldfish

[prisma sigil]

Cus some of them require some teamwork or some specific circumstances

[desert vessel]

because fs hates you, not only do they have to be private match only, they also expect you to play in a harmful way

[brave iris]

my friend is struggling with Abhor the Mutant.

[desert vessel]

it can be annoying, but itl happen eventually

you dont have to do much of a setup for it

[prisma sigil]

All of them are easy honestly

Just need a strat

[desert vessel]

for zealot? yeah

[prisma sigil]

No, all of them

[brave iris]

the stun nade on sniper was a bit annoying because my teammates were aggressively wiping out any snipers that dared draw breath

[prisma sigil]

I got all class penances and none of them took me long except missions played

Every one has a strat

[brave iris]

the psyker knock-off-ledge thing is frustrating for me because there's too many guardrails. gosh dangit OSHA must still exist or something.

[ashen steeple]

what to change on this?

[desert vessel]

I mean, I got all the ones on ogryn , vet and everything except shocking stuff on zealot, and some of them were not fun at all, just mindless tediousness

[prisma sigil]

Chasm Logistratum

At the beginning

[brave iris]

it's slightly funny when it's some awkward penance, and your reward is some patched-ass prison-pants

[brave iris]

i don't know the missions by name, i'm afraid.

[prisma sigil]

theres a little unguardrailed bridge on the side by the beginning, you sit there and wait for a horde to run onto the bridge then you run over and shriek them off

It's a raid mission

[desert vessel]

on the right side of the bridge yeah

[prisma sigil]

At the end you grab ammo off the trains

[brave iris]

i don't know what exactly "Raid" missions are, and i have four characters at lvl30. lol. oh ok raid is ammo grab?

[prisma sigil]

I'm sure you've played it before

[brave iris]

everything in my brain except survival sense shuts down when i play i'm afraid

push a button here, slap some eyes, push another button

somehow manage to not notice a teammate going down like 20 meters away from me and he dies. oops

[still quartz]

Me 🤝 @slate notch
Devil's Claw fans rise up

[prisma sigil]

But yea

Find the chasm logistratum mission on the mission board

it's a raid

at the start you have this bridge

Stand on it, let enemies walk onto it, then wham

[brave iris]

the only raid mission i remember is the one where you finish it in this... valkyrie landing place, and there's like these two train-looking things you get the ammo pods from. one on each side of the area. is that the one?

[desert vessel]

by wham he means press f so you can venting shriek them off the bridge

[prisma sigil]

Yes

[prisma sigil]

^ correct

Just make sure to run a bit to the right first so you knock them all off

[brave iris]

aight good i'll try that.

i think you only need like 7 enemies or somesuch. shouldn't be too hard

[prisma sigil]

It used to be 20 💀

[brave iris]

was on Malice, the lvl25 veteran went "let's rush", we do rush, then we get a bit clobbered and slow down. he keeps rushing. gets eaten by a dog. tale as old as time

[desert vessel]

also, in case the mission doesnt show up, you can also do it on vigil station oblivium

[brave iris]

then he started rushing again. and fell off a bridge

[prisma sigil]

If you want the penance for brain bursting a monstrosity to death, hop into an auric maelstrom with the 'monstrous specialists' modifier

They count and it takes maybe 4 or 5 brain bursts to kill them

Take some friends though so you live long enough for one to spawn

[brave iris]

wait, so that modifier makes specialists really tanky and count as monsters?

[rocky marsh]

this one okeh?

[prisma sigil]

No no

Basically any specialist spawn has a chance to just spawn as a weaker monstrosity instead

[brave iris]

ohhhh

[rocky marsh]

do mini monsters ever get nurgled?

[prisma sigil]

So instead of a trapper or a hound you get a chaos spawn with like 25% health

[brave iris]

i will admit. i don't feel ready for Maelstrom, or Auric.

[prisma sigil]

I'm like 95% sure they do

[desert vessel]

theres a modifier that straight up has a chance to turn specialists into weaker monstrosities

[desert vessel]

can you play damnation well consistently?

[prisma sigil]

Yeah but if you're just going for the penance it's fine

[sharp zodiac]

I got it on complete accident

[brave iris]

i can handle Heresy fine. i can survive damnation pretty okay i think.

but i don't wanna be a burden, see?

[sharp zodiac]

Ran gunpsyker and decided to shreik and ig a few guys fell off a ledge

[brave iris]

i don't wanna be "that guy"

[desert vessel]

nah dw, if you can survive damnation missions consistently, id suggest you stick with damnation till you get comfy

also try out auric heresy, its not that bad if you're already playing only damnation and heresy

[rocky marsh]

sometimes in maelstrom, i just fuck around abit if my team is too good and it gets too boring

[brave iris]

so, speaking of this... can someone explain what exactly Auric, and Maelstrom are? it's a little confusing

[sharp zodiac]

Basically

[rocky marsh]

auric mean, director more angry

[sharp zodiac]

Damnation but with modification

[rocky marsh]

maelstrom mean, special modifier

[sharp zodiac]

Highest too

Like high intensity

[ripe quest]

Chainsword w/ Shred. Might be able to get it in a single grenade.

[sharp zodiac]

Or auric mael which offers a variety of modification

[rocky marsh]

but those special modifier can be multiples

[desert vessel]

I highly recommend ventilation purge 10/10 modifier

[sharp zodiac]

EW

I

[desert vessel]

ITS SO FUNNY

[brave iris]

I'm literally not understanding y'all's explanations about this at all

[sharp zodiac]

Reccomend a more PEAK one

Melee only

[desert vessel]

noooo

[sharp zodiac]

You will be boiled

[ripe quest]

Aurics are exactly the same as base games but have a tension modifier. Stuff will happen twice as often. They also only roll the challenging modifiers.

[rocky marsh]

so auric maelstrom mean
many modifier and director very angry

Like if you mother saw your bad grades before you and shes waiting for you at home
highest tier difficulty

With maelstrom you have stuff like nurgle boosted enemies (extremely aka almost impossible to stagger, which can affects dogs ) and the mini monsters as mentioned

[ripe quest]

Maelstroms are just really big modifiers slapped onto a normal mission.

[brave iris]

you can do Auric on lower difficulty than Damnation?

[desert vessel]

yes

[ripe quest]

Heresy at the minimum

[brave iris]

huh. that seems goofy.

[desert vessel]

there is auric heresy and auric damnation, thats it

[brave iris]

so what's harder? regular Damnation, or Auric Heresy?

[sharp zodiac]

It varies

If we're talking just standard

[desert vessel]

it can be either, auric damnation is generally harder than both, as youd expect

[ripe quest]

They're different. Auric Heresy will have lower values for enemies but will be faster paced.

[brave iris]

what kinda gear do y'all recommend for Heresy and Damnation anyway? do i need like purps and oranges for either?

[ripe quest]

Aurics were made entirely because people were annoyed waiting for HiStG to show up so FS granted us an express ticket to such modifiers.

[rocky marsh]

you could run white on heresy
damnation depends

[ripe quest]

Depends on how comfy you are with the game's mechanics. I recommend just getting some oranges together with decent blessings and start getting into Heresy. The weapons don't need to be perfect.

[rocky marsh]

btw this good? got it for free :v

[ripe quest]

We have a weapon setup guide in pins if you want a look at what's considered good rn

[brave iris]

i seem to do okay in Heresy with my green-blue stuff so far at least.

[rocky marsh]

this one?

[ripe quest]

no

[brave iris]

but Damnation scares me a bit. i've done one or two with my vet. not my zealot tho

[rocky marsh]

man is blind, can't find it

[rocky marsh]

ah i thought those were just stats

thanks dood

[ripe quest]

It's not a huge jump from Heresy. iirc the scaling still makes it so getting to Heresy and consistently completing missions is the biggest jump in difficulty.

If you're running good missions you can try it out

[brave iris]

aight.

[spare tapir]

hey whats that OP thunder hammer build?

[indigo quartz]

Wouldn't call it OP but it's thrust + either head taker or slaughterer

[prisma sigil]

Crucis is my fave

Ironhelm is good though

[lone pecan]

There is another easy way to do it, assassination mission Chasm Station, towards the end before you drop down and you have people on a wall way dropping down to attack you. Smite the people up top and get it without trouble

[royal vortex]

u can just barely see the tattoo

pog

[sharp zodiac]

Pewdipie

[rocky marsh]

josho

are you in mood for gameplay review? :3

REDVERSE :O

[frozen glen]

mister josho how do i use the crusher against ragers

[rocky marsh]

don't know if you are making fun of me, but i think so

[frozen glen]

no he recently made a crusher guide

ive been gone for a long time so im asking him for advice

[wooden yew]

avg zealot W

[rocky marsh]

https://youtu.be/1vNBp_0zfhY
@ripe quest @fading vale 🙏
plos review, me me do big ask

[rocky marsh]

no more ping for 1 week i swear 👨‍🌾

[lone pecan]

[rocky marsh]

the gods have forsaken me

[warm rapids]

am i an asshole if i give advice on how to use chorus and the dude hasnt been using it atall in the mission?

in a level 5 mission with bunch of ragers and crushers

[sharp zodiac]

No

[coarse birch]

if he didnt ask then its a toss up if someone gets annoyed or not

[warm rapids]

got you

cause they left me captured and tried to finish the mission in which they lost

[frank night]

Guy is probably not dealing in logic

[coarse birch]

some people might take it wrong way

not much you can do there

[warm rapids]

true

[coarse birch]

you tried

[warm rapids]

i blocked em and then this morning i got a notification about my steam account getting a warning about harassment

[frank night]

Neat

[sharp zodiac]

Coward

MAN I'm hungy

Gry

Hungry

[warm rapids]

That's a long way from here I'm in america

[lone pecan]

Entirely depends on how you wrote it

[rocky marsh]

quick question, for crusher, bulwark (and mauler)
is kant or boltgun better?

[analog ember]

Bolt

If you care about ttk

[north sedge]

kant will kill more of bulwarks and maulers

[rocky marsh]

thanks, so i assume against crusher horde, bolt is better?

or its small ttk but in return you can't kill many

[analog ember]

Yes though mind the mag size

If there’s a lot of them you will prob need two mags realistically

[rocky marsh]

what about for six specifically?
im asking 6 because uh that seems the highest amount director will spawn at ojce

[analog ember]

yeah that's going to take two mags if you're doing single shots

more if you're spraying

[sharp zodiac]

Aw that's much better..

[north sedge]

flamer is better at it if you have chastise, though i really only take it on scab melee only and orthus

[rocky marsh]

at killing crushers?

[north sedge]

yea

[rocky marsh]

does thje flame go throuigh bulwark shied?

[north sedge]

No

But Kant shotgun does

#zealot-class message

[gaunt roost]

does this only apply when im holding the weapon

[royal vortex]

yea

[sharp zodiac]

No (I'm lying)

[sharp zinc]

hm would crit+bleed build be viable at all I wonder

[ripe quest]

This seems just boils down to positioning, mechanical skill, and utilizing your kit a bit better. Play with your team just a tad bit more, obv grabbing stuff or just moving between holdouts it's whatever but during holdouts and mixed hordes everyone benefits from being together. I think you'd like Second Wind with that setup, you had a couple moments where it would've prevented you from sitting with low toughness and waiting out enemies/eating a bunch of health damage.

[sharp zinc]

that knife got shit rolls, I'd just buy it off Melk for the blessing

[sharp zodiac]

Eh

[sharp zinc]

Felsh Tearer seems nicer than Lacerate

[sharp zodiac]

Ehh not really

Allow me to explain

Basically with knife you want to be prioritizing weakspots hits due to the high finesse meaning you do a lot more on weakspots

Flesh tearer allows you to ustilize bleed while not fucking your finesse and main knife shit over

[rocky marsh]

hmmm.
Can you elaborate abit on the mechanical skill part?
usually i don't go around for plasteels that much but i still do got super infront yeah.
setup as in my loadout? atm im planning to change the volvo to a bolter (thoughts on that?)
if i were to take second wind, how do you suggest i do that?

Thanks alot mr exhil :D

[sharp zodiac]

Whereas lacerate actively fucks you over because you have to do non weakspots hits

[ripe quest]

They said Flesh Tearer looks better than Lacerate

[sharp zodiac]

Oh

Fuck

[north sedge]

need uncanny

[sharp zodiac]

God damn it I wrote a great explanation for the wrong sentence

[lone pecan]

[rocky marsh]

today is not your day

[sharp zodiac]

It is not

[spare dome]

this is why 90% of the shit i start typing i just dont complete or hit enter on and leave incomp

[wooden yew]

yall ready to have a stroke?

[golden anchor]

@rocky marsh use chastise way more lol

[rocky marsh]

usually i try to save 1 for like a rager xD

or high kill prior guy

[wooden yew]

saw a zealot with 7 wounds, but no matrydom and said "i take wounds because i go down alot" and he fully dued 3 times

[golden anchor]

But you have 2 dashes

Also for ragers your left click mash staggers them automatically

[rocky marsh]

i didn't know that :o

i usually chatise into heavy

it seems to one hit on certain wound levels

[wooden yew]

he also was light attack crsuhers with an evicertator

[golden anchor]

Just mash lights against them and they get staggered light to death

[lone pecan]

Went down 21 times? No way

[wooden yew]

nah, just bled out

[north sedge]

the fun thing with wounds is it makes you go down way more

[wooden yew]

went down like 6 times

[north sedge]

unless you have marty

[rocky marsh]

nah when you die with 7 wounds, it takes 3 wounds

unless
im not smart

[golden anchor]

Can safely do it against up to 3 ragers without much hit trading

[wooden yew]

the charge does a small aoe stagger

spam it

[rocky marsh]

wait do what

[wooden yew]

and i said "in a none disrespectful way, its a skill issue" then he got pissy

[lone pecan]

Spam chastise for the voice lines

[golden anchor]

Charge into 3 ragers and mash lights to death

[wooden yew]

yes

[golden anchor]

Dont have to save chastise for solo ragers

[rocky marsh]

no sir!
i tried that and the rager hit me 2 time, very sad

[wooden yew]

for solo, if chain wepon, rev attacks stagger them

[golden anchor]

Charge is also a 15s dps increase

[rocky marsh]

yeah i know about that

[north sedge]

chastise staggers things you bump into

[golden anchor]

Staggering ragers is a bit ping dependent though

Once they start swinging they cant be staggered as easily

[rocky marsh]

oh yeah, if lets say, i want to do far chatise
but there is a guy right infront of where i want to go, what do?
sometimes i seem to be able to target the guy behind / do far chastise but somtimes can'

[golden anchor]

So you basically have to be able to get the first hit in

[rocky marsh]

t

[spare dome]

hold F

[wooden yew]

no wounds zealot but ive got 350hp

[spare dome]

it red glows your target

[ripe quest]

w/ mechanical skill I'm just referring to dodging and how you're attacking. I saw some moments where you'd just take damage from a missed dodge or where you'd hit body shots with the Caxe. It comes with time and it's not a huge difference. idk if Boltgun would feel great w/ a Caxe there, Caxe partially covers Ogryns and Boltgun won't have the same special killing the Rev has due to the pullout time.

With the same core talents I'd just run smth like this. I'd personally swap out stuns just to grab Duellist but that's entirely up to you.

[mystic ether]

Lmao ffs. I knew I wasn't crazy but I never held it before.

[rocky marsh]

so sorry what you mean by swap otu stuns

[mystic ether]

Just now learned that it works like that too

[spare dome]

It's not very obvious tbf

[rocky marsh]

stun nades of course

but

[spare dome]

The glow is quite faint

[rocky marsh]

like how do you

save the stun nade point to get duelist

[rocky marsh]

i think it has max range too, tried in psk
so if there is no behind guy, i don't think i can chatise past a clsoe guy right

[mystic ether]

Mhm. I was just totally unsure if I was seeing a visual mistake or something else the rare times I've held it down long enough to see it. I usually just try to aim it manually and charge a heavy into it or something.

[copper hawk]

Contrary 2 what pol r sayin here

[spare dome]

21m

[copper hawk]

U do not hold f

[spare dome]

7m with no target

[copper hawk]

Holdin f doesn't extend ur chastise

U have to out ur cursor on an enemy

[spare dome]

no it just makes targeting easier

[copper hawk]

And press f

[ripe quest]

Changing to a different blitz. My caxe build runs throwing knives entirely because I want the points and I get Second Wind.

[golden anchor]

Holding F before u release alows you to see your dash target

[copper hawk]

Ur char will nyoom to said enemy regardless of press time

[golden anchor]

For a bit more precision on aiming iy

[copper hawk]

Except when it doesnt

Despite bein highlighted

Cuz fatshark

[rocky marsh]

out your cursor?

[copper hawk]

Or u bump into a strategically placed piece of geometrically shitty rubble

[wooden yew]

what i dont understand os why that mf refused to learn anything, just got mad at me XD

[rocky marsh]

yeah i mean, i can't see how to save a point by going down knives
unless you mean i don't take bleee for emprah

[copper hawk]

And ur entire charge zStopz

[golden anchor]

Just go in psykaneum and check it our for urself

[copper hawk]

Cuz fuck u

KYAAAA

I HATE ROUND FISHE

[copper hawk]

Put ur cursor

Srry

[mystic ether]

I mean certain classes of enemies will collide if they're there but you'll bash and force cc in a small enough cone to force your swings.

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[mystic ether]

You're not an ogryn after all

With the new evis, makes reaching into crowds of important shit a little easier but it's whatever at that point to me with chainweapons