zealot-class

[royal vortex]

sometimes i can fuck my sleep schedule into sleeping in 4 hour shifts

[frank night]

and my cat at the time deposited a sympathy dead mouse

[north sedge]

last time i napped was like a year ago when i was in a car accident and was sleep deprived because of the pain

[heavy arch]

yall need a lesson in chillaxing

[median steeple]

sometimes I just become really tired for no reason during the summer and sleep most of the day for a week straight

catmaxing

[heavy arch]

Sometimes at my pc chair I’ll just accidentally nap

[median steeple]

h-how

[north sedge]

a mouse a day keeps the doctor away (he's scared of mice)

[heavy arch]

you ever just lay back with a cold one all comfy

surprise naps

[north sedge]

oh yea i guess if i get super high i can, but i only partake around bed time anyway so

[median steeple]

yeah but not in a chair like a desk chair

[cerulean pike]

Two hours til the clinic opens

Then I can get meds for this fucking covid

i still don’t know how i got it TWICE

[heavy arch]

get comfy desk chairs

idk

[median steeple]

dirty people not washing they hands

[north sedge]

sniffed some jank air

[ripe quest]

I'm fairly confident that the base levels will determine the base stats on weapons you find, and then with crafting it's weapon localized, based on the item's score at the rarity it's in.

[cerulean pike]

Also I’ve fallen asleep at my pc chair before too

Just watching a video and then I pass out

Cause I’m just so bored my body decides it’s sleepy time

[nimble fiber]

ever fallen asleep while standing?

[frank night]

only once

[cerulean pike]

Yes

[frank night]

and that was because of all nighters

[heavy arch]

no but driving? All the time

[ripe quest]

I've fainted a bunch of times while standing up.

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-gif-2829327295667490896

[oak blaze]

foookin booteeful

[cerulean pike]

Tbh I can fall asleep in any position from what I’ve found out

Not 17% toughness. Trash

[ornate bone]

Not 17% toughness

[oak blaze]

im saying

[ornate bone]

Uninstall

[oak blaze]

im on the search

[cerulean pike]

End yourself

[oak blaze]

ur mom

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-iron-deficiency-gif-24919552

[ornate bone]

My mom, not his

[ripe quest]

no I'm just tall

[median steeple]

Yeah sometimes that happens when I stretch in my chair

[cerulean pike]

Our mom

[median steeple]

lmao I wouldnt know

[cerulean pike]

Yeah. Shorty

Gnome owl stan

[median steeple]

smh

https://tenor.com/view/finger-wag-no-no-no-gif-27552536

[cerulean pike]

Those who Stan that owl is a bottom

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/signalis-elster-tumbs-up-low-poly-gif-5542909862596675216

[ripe quest]

isn't like, one of the plot points that that owl is a bottom?

[lilac bone]

Dodge brauto gunfighter zealot is 100% viable and 100% hilarious. That plus 25% damage the closer enemies are is beaut. Pulled out my Rashad 4ish times.

[cerulean pike]

yes

Probably

I don’t watch the show

I catch glimpses of clips on it because people keep@posting it on Twitter

[ripe quest]

Neither do I, just have some depraved friends to base it on.

[cerulean pike]

like ciaphas?

[median steeple]

throwing stones in glass houses

[onyx solar]

better than throwing houses in glass stones

[median steeple]

that damn wizard

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248972334327791616/1198307047649853521/CharizardNANI.mp4?ex=65be6d67&is=65abf867&hm=e31d87a9c28353bf465af168833709c792fd611d0df7145d2a7e5a8d088b798c&

[modest quiver]

rolls in the wrong place as always 😦 even a good base perk too

how important is penetration stat?

[median steeple]

thats fucking rough

[modest quiver]

not sure if true but a bit of reading suggests that penetration only affects normal/heavy attacks not shredder

so I'd be using shredder vs flak and carapace anyway...

fuck it, hadron.. hurt me

Did it.

Rev to shred IV and weak spot to carapace/maniac I guess?

[ripe quest]

It affects revved attacks.

[modest quiver]

ugh

more dps than this with revved attacks

interesting.. identical damage on heavies

[ornate bone]

On bodyshots against the same enemy?

[modest quiver]

yes

[ornate bone]

Wacky

[modest quiver]

less damage on the higher penetration one, no revved up vs crusher

[ornate bone]

I take it it's an enemy listed on the penetration?

[modest quiver]

this was tested against a mauler

[ornate bone]

Fatshark

[modest quiver]

annoyingly it still doesn't quite hit the breakpoint to 1 hit KO a mauler from the front -.-'

it does at Rampage IV to my sticker book though! 😄

[autumn fern]

hey guys can anyone help to do this penance please ?

[fleet zealot]

no 17% toughness, no 5% hp and toughness

[sharp zodiac]

Still got a lot to learn on GG but at least I'm getting somewhere

[frank night]

Grenade Gauntlet

[fleet zealot]

my response to your pfp

[frank night]

my pfp is just a lil guy

a lil buddy

[heavy arch]

Post on vox LFG NA too

[ripe quest]

@south folio Truly incredible. After making this I have to alt-F4 out of the Psykanium since it won't load into the morningstar.

Toughness colors are eldritch in nature

[median steeple]

what the fuck

[ripe quest]

I changed ONE (1) value to red and all of a sudden my toughness bar would cycle through like 4 different colors when anything happened to it

[rough vault]

6 whole pixels

[ripe quest]

My cooldown info is a tiny little spinning circle on my crosshair

[median steeple]

lmaoooo

[ripe quest]

if it's purple it's on cooldown if it's white it's off

[ornate bone]

Of course he made it purple

[ripe quest]

Purple is peak.

Gold too.

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[rough vault]

This is factual

[ripe quest]

It's difficult to see it but right behind my toughness and health bar there's a purple gradient, when I use Chorus it's dope since gold and purple

[gaunt bronze]

I feel like the thunder hammer is gravely misunderstood

The Crucis scares people away and everyone assumes the Ironhelm functions the same

And everyone's addicted to light attacks

[north sedge]

the crucis is a teddy bear deep down inside

in general yes, people wanna just spam

brain off

[gaunt bronze]

I find attack spam unsatisfying

[north sedge]

same

[gaunt bronze]

I want to see 20 mobs flying offscreen from one charged heavy attack

[lone pecan]

What about the crucis scares people away?

[north sedge]

using the special effectively

[heavy arch]

just jump

[north sedge]

and the heavy not deleting half the world in one swing

[gaunt bronze]

The special attack triggers on first hit, zero cleave

In return you get a better M1 spam

[heavy arch]

just jump special and isolate the head u wanna smack

[north sedge]

impossible it's not just hitting m1 repeatedly bole

[heavy arch]

o right

ppl actually want to do that

[ripe quest]

Bind special to m1

🙂

[lone pecan]

I see, so the Ironhelm is more beginner friendly then?

[obsidian ore]

hey guys, I soloed hm twins with our beautiful class zealot without using my ranged weapon, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0nkDzvAwXA

[north sedge]

the special is yes

[ripe quest]

Base attacks are varied instead of Crucis' simple combos

[north sedge]

the moveset is more complex

[gaunt bronze]

Can't really compare isolating one mauler out of a pack with a jump (near zero toughness regen because only one dead target) vs Ironhelm cleaving through 15 adds and deleting a mauler at the end.

[ripe quest]

which can intimidate people

[lone pecan]

So it's easy moveset with harder special vs. harder moveset with easier special

[gaunt bronze]

Yeah the Crucis' swing feels nicer but the ironhelm is big swipe, big swipe then block to reset combo counter

[north sedge]

basically

and the crucis special hits 25% harder

[gaunt bronze]

It does?

[north sedge]

yes

[gaunt bronze]

This I did not know

[heavy arch]

sus

[north sedge]

the h3 on ironhelm closes the gap to 10% less

[gaunt bronze]

gotcha

[heavy arch]

crucis hitting harder is part of its core identity

[gaunt bronze]

Does the hammer really need to hit harder

[north sedge]

sometimes!

[heavy arch]

1 shot dh

so theres usecase for it

[gaunt bronze]

Yeah but it's kinda overkill

[lone pecan]

Crowd control is dump stat for hammers? Please say yes

[north sedge]

it help with some of the armored elites

[gaunt bronze]

Crowd control is attack speed

[north sedge]

it's not a dump, but you dont need max either

[fading vale]

yeah dumping it a bit isn't too bad

[ripe quest]

The H2 and H3 are 20% less damage and the H3 is 10% less.

[gaunt bronze]

oic

[lone pecan]

How about dumping it this much?

[fading vale]

totally fine

[ripe quest]

oh lazorr did you see the new hud

[fading vale]

nope

[ripe quest]

[rough vault]

I like chocolate ganache

[ripe quest]

I cannot leave the Meat Grinder without alt F4ing now

if I just hit the leave button it will load forever

[fading vale]

I have more crosshair hud kinda stuff, and stuff closer to below crosshair

[rough vault]

Have you tried turning it off and on again

[ripe quest]

You have no idea

During the toughness color arc I had to restart my game and reset my config

[heavy arch]

ive been starting every pug run with telling them if they stay near me they get damage reduction and so far yeah theyve been staring near me and runs have been smooth

[ripe quest]

so much

so much annoyance

I just gave up and let it be default and hid the numbers for bonus toughness

because if they come back god knows what color my toughness bar will be

[rough vault]

Ok but did u try turning it off and on again

[ripe quest]

mhm

[rough vault]

What about turning it off and on again?

[gaunt bronze]

Are the attack breakdown damage numbers inaccurate

Because comparing ironhelm vs crucis in-game they have the same H1/H2 damage stats

[fading vale]

special damage

is different

[north sedge]

yea special dmg is not shown

[ripe quest]

The special attacks on the H2 and H3 are 20% less, and the H3 is 10% less. The base H1 and H2 are identical to the H1 and H2 on the Crucis, the H3 hits harder.

[gaunt bronze]

Am I reading the stagger wrongly as the special damage

Ah right the special damage aint there

Damn.

[lone pecan]

Shock and awe for trust I assume and the second change?

[gaunt bronze]

The perks look nice

[ripe quest]

oh that poor thammer. Just swap the blessings.

Thrust and Slaught since you have them

[gaunt bronze]

I wish I could find a Thrust IV

I'm through about 500 thammers

[flint mason]

what are some good thunder hammer builds?

[lone pecan]

Thanks, time to give hammer a try tomorrow and fail

[gaunt bronze]

For talents?

[flint mason]

yes

[ripe quest]

This one is fun #zealot-class message

[gaunt roost]

why does every zealot cosmetic in the shop look like a bird

[north sedge]

that's the one i use as well

[median steeple]

Birb

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bird-sesame-street-yellow-beak-bird-gif-5513048

[median steeple]

at least we didnt lose him on the challenger

[buoyant pecan]

because its true to the oldschool aesthetics the british were going for

fetish masks, skulls, and birbs

all thats missing is the classic nazi inspired iconography GW wisely distanced itself from

[gaunt roost]

the zealots are british?

going back to ogryn bye

[buoyant pecan]

the entire company that made this genre is british back when the british were fantasizing about Nazis]

[median steeple]

in the 40k millennium everyone is from Birmingham

[buoyant pecan]

the setting rather, not the genre

[flint mason]

speaking of hammers, which is the preferred and what am I hoping to roll on it?

[gaunt bronze]

Here's mine. Built for surviving long enough to get fully charged special heavy attacks off on the ironhelm. Could probably move 1-2 points around.

[rough vault]

The auric daemon slayer trinket is the best one

[gaunt bronze]

Crucis has a bit higher single target damage but that single target better be alone. Ironhelm's special can cleave through dozens.

[sharp zodiac]

It baffles me people still don't know how to fight a plague ogryn

[gaunt bronze]

I prefer the ironhlem but might try out the crucis for funny one shot

[dense field]

You want maxed out first target, damage, penetration, in that order. Unyielding perk is pretty much mandatory, so is Thrust blessing.

[sharp zodiac]

Just wait your turn don't try and mash a heavy mid attack interval

[lone pecan]

You just block and run away while your team kills the ogryn, right?

[gaunt bronze]

You bop it in the face 2-3 times

[dense field]

The second blessing is Headtaker or Slaughterer

[sharp zodiac]

Bop, block n dodge repeat

[dense field]

Second desired perk is usually flak or elites

[gaunt bronze]

Momentum is nice on ironhelm.

Every swing = full toughness

[dense field]

So is doing damage

[gaunt bronze]

Damage is alright I guess.

[ripe quest]

With Vicious Offering you can get both

[gaunt bronze]

I also run vicious offering

[dense field]

Wrong, not sure if you are joking or not

[gaunt bronze]

tbh I could probably make more use of vicious offering if I had higher damage.

[ripe quest]

It's really funny on the horde mulchers since you can get minimum half your toughness per swing

Chainsword hitting that 8 procs per swing

[dense field]

You don't want to run away from any boss. Circle around if you must but don't just run in a straight line. You want your team to be able to attack the boss so try to keep it in one place.

[gaunt bronze]

I just assumed when a boss shows up, everyone except the guy with the thammer runs away

[dense field]

But you don't have to do it with a plague ogryn

Just come close, dodge backwards, come close again, repeat

[lone pecan]

I was half joking and half not knowing that I should circle around. I usually try to keep within the area unless it's not possible. I do know that I should block, so I am 1/3 of the way there to being decent

[dense field]

If everyone runs away, a guy with the hammer is going to have a baf day

Bad

[gaunt bronze]

I usually have a bad day but I get the kill

[dense field]

I don't like having a bad day

[spare dome]

i feel like this is worth memeing with

[ripe quest]

Make the railgun build w/ it

[dense field]

Almost forgot I have a nice lawbringer with manstopper scatter 4

[flint mason]

bagh, can't seem to get a good hammer roll

don't matterr tho when I still got this

[north sedge]

hammer is the hardest weapon to roll

[dense field]

TH is probably the most RNG reliant weapon to get

[gaunt roost]

are chain greatswords any good

[dense field]

Rampage is better

[fickle raven]

nope

[north sedge]

evisc is good yea

[lone pecan]

Good and very fun

[fickle raven]

the crit cleave past bulwarks

with perfect strike

[dense field]

And? Rampage is still better.

[north sedge]

you're just adding stagger with it, that's about it

[split ibex]

whoa

future DT

[median steeple]

awesome

time travel

[cinder roost]

the warp is a strange place

[polar nexus]

the mystery deepens

[lone pecan]

I wish the mystery was in the actual game itself

[ripe quest]

It was an april fools joke

[polar nexus]

[sharp zodiac]

Kickbackogryn.mp4

[median steeple]

ah yes the classic poxburster meet kickback

[dense field]

I highly dislike situations like this

[cerulean pike]

ITS SUNDAY. FUCK.

[dense field]

oh no

[cerulean pike]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[lone pecan]

I'm afraid to ask why that's bad

[cerulean pike]

The clinic I usually go to closes on Sundays.

I thought it was Sunday yesterday

So I went “mm yes time for Monday! Go clinic get this covid sorted”

[lone pecan]

[cerulean pike]

Good thing is there’s a different clinic nearby so I’m going to that one

Only thing is I won’t know how it costs compared to my usual clinic

[lone pecan]

That's concerning, good luck with the covid and cost

[cerulean pike]

Could be under 50 like normal or over 50.

Because I don’t live in shit medical cost america

[north sedge]

you don't have the freedom to pay 10,000 dollars for a pill? shame

[lone pecan]

We are clearly missing out

[shy river]

https://youtu.be/mQ5khClAFIo?si=sPtEQNVbzuCqOMjC

[cerulean pike]

What we have in medical bills, what we don’t have in car costs

cause cars in america are a fuckin bargain compared to here

[median steeple]

[north sedge]

yea but you have actual public transit yea?

[cerulean pike]

That we do

[north sedge]

god i wish i had that

[median steeple]

hmm I love trains

[woeful oyster]

Anyone know my Brutal Momentum proc indicator is not visible at the bottom of my screen?

Playing with no mods btw

[shy river]

i dont think BM has a proc symbol

[woeful oyster]

I could've sworn it did

[fleet zealot]

it doesn't

[north sedge]

it used to probably? works differently now so no reason

[fleet zealot]

it's not a buff now

it just lets you keep cleaving on weakspot kills without falloff

(up to 4)

[woeful oyster]

I think I remember now that it doesn't have an indicator any more. But on my Ogryn with a MkXIX latrine shovel, I can roll off brutal momentum and hit the crusher with 3 stacks of thrust for 3600. If I put t4 BM back on the shovel, I still only do 3600 damage, like I don't get the extra 15% weakspot damage??

[ripe quest]

Are you 1 shotting the Crusher? The damage number will cap out to the max health of the enemy if you 1 shot them

[woeful oyster]

That's what it is then, lol

damn

[polar nexus]

i am reconsidering the value of bm on the shovel

[covert blade]

hmm put no respite and unyeild on?

[polar nexus]

killing 4 ragers is fine but that does not happen that often in my case

if they are more than 2 i would have thinned the pack with range first

[cerulean pike]

Alright finally got my meds

Came to 45 bucks. Pog

[polar nexus]

i would put maniac instead of carapace, unyielding is a second choice

[covert blade]

yeah that was my other thought

thx

[polar nexus]

that is a nice shotgun

[covert blade]

thanks only took a year

lol

[polar nexus]

[covert blade]

upgrade

[ripe quest]

Often with BM what I'll get that offers some nice value is that fodder won't always hinder damage against elites. It's like they were never there when considering the single target damage.

[flint tree]

Damn juicy

[covert blade]

stability is w/e right?

[flint tree]

Finally trying this class out bored of Psyker what’s the meta melee weapon on this class haven’t found anything quick enough for CC/movement

[covert blade]

knife

[north sedge]

Most weapons work

[covert needle]

probably won't notice the difference too much

[covert blade]

i'm evicerator excusive

[flint tree]

Damn we’re stuck with the pencil on this class? Nothing good as d4?

[ripe quest]

With meta + CC and movement in mind try a Mk IV Chainsword. Run Judgement for a Keystone.

Mk XIIIg works too, less crowd damage more single target.

[covert needle]

turtolsky mk ix heavy sword is pretty good if you dont wanna use chain weps

personally don't vibe with how they changed the damage ticks on the spec attacks on chain weps*

[flint tree]

Thanks I’ll try that prob I’m lazy when it comes to charging weapons

[ripe quest]

I was mostly referring to it having the about the best crowd damage a melee weapon can offer + 5 dodges

[flint tree]

Great skill tree on this class though even tho it’s pretty strict

[ripe quest]

Most options on it are really solid though, lots of passive stuff.

[strange totem]

Tips for using flamethrower?

[ripe quest]

With Fury of the Faithful and Blaze Away you can wipe patrols.

Stack to max stacks of burn and then ult

Does extra damage to flak and carapace due to the armor downgrade.

Other than that keep in mind that often you won't need to hold down the fire button for crowds of smaller enemies. A large portion of the damage comes from burn stacks and you only need to get enough to kill.

[strange totem]

Alright then

Although it's kinda hard for me to tell when they're dead

And I end up just emptying the entire canister on Already burnt corpses

[covert needle]

you could pretend you're trying to sneakily let out a fart and gas the room and go in with your melee

[ripe quest]

You can kinda gauge it with ammo spent. 6-7 ammo while braced or 5 when puffing will kill a fodder enemy really fast.

[flint tree]

Sounds like it’s only good if you have a good psyker with DPS

[north sedge]

🤔

[ripe quest]

The Flamer? With Fury it's the best patrol wiping Zealot has available. Puts out a lot of damage. It doesn't do a whole lot for bosses but we also can like 3 shot them with a Thammer.

[north sedge]

what does a psyker have to do with it

[lethal totem]

guh

[ripe quest]

new video demo

wait hold on

[north sedge]

wow you only killed one crusher ugh

[sharp zodiac]

Where did they go

[ripe quest]

the sun

[sharp zodiac]

Here comes the sun

[north sedge]

Honestly ome of these should be pinmed with how many "flamer bad" comments come up

[frank night]

they were sent to the oblivion of arcotash graphics

[ripe quest]

Yeah but my UI is cool so bleh

[sharp zodiac]

I've grown completely numb to the graphics atp

[frank night]

if u did a survey i think every weapon that gets weirdly called bad just has a long ready up time

and this consigns it to hell in the eyes of many

or well the bolter also has the revolver standing in the same room as it

[north sedge]

Partially

With flamer they saw it got a slap on the wrist eons ago and assume it's bad now

Or don't know the chastise flamer is dead entire room deal

[haughty haven]

worth?

[ripe quest]

Slightly better one

[ripe quest]

For a first Thammer totes

You'd swap Skullcrusher out for HT/Slaught and +Block Efficiency to +Flak.

[haughty haven]

skull crusher no good?

[ornate bone]

For hammer no

Shovel and crusher, yeah

[haughty haven]

will it breakpoint crushers without flak?

carapiece*

[ripe quest]

I don't know specific details off the top of my head but I've heard a good amount saying the Crucis doesn't need +Cara.

Maybe like, +Elites? At most? not sure.

[north sedge]

Crucis can't one shot unless chastise

Unless you have a specific team buffs or something

[haughty haven]

what the funny demon host four shot people doing with it?

[gray ice]

flak unyielding is probably my favorite roll for hammer

I'd probably be cool with elites/unyielding too

[north sedge]

Four shot?

It's 2 with chastise

One with shroudfield

[haughty haven]

whichever lol i saw a speedy zealot do it once

dude was on crack lol just ran through and crushed all the crushers and monstrosity and waited in the next load phase area for everyone lmao

[torn stream]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mighty-sun-funny-fat-sun-mighty-gif-18466115

[ripe quest]

I still remember right before P13 dropped people were preaching about Ogryn getting a Rumbler + Shield combo weapon and there was a fake image that was just like, bad.

This one

[gray ice]

Someone playing on your setup would probably think this is a different game entirely

mans playing lego mode with weapons mismatched like he ran full tilt through a ross

[covert needle]

anybody able to give me a tl;dr on tac axe blessings? crit build? normal build?

did a search, came up with not a lot of definitive useful information

[gray ice]

if you want blessing and stuff look at pins

[ripe quest]

Ideally a Martyrdom setup, Brutal Momentum + Deci/Headtaker

[gray ice]

For builds you could use any really, you could do piety for crit and whatnot, but tac axe needs dmg more than anything, so marty would suit it best

[ripe quest]

You can also run a Judgement one and it's ok. Mk VII is kinda inconsistent with hitboxes.

[gray ice]

Would honestly just say stay away from it. Just use the 4

[covert needle]

i see people saying that tac axes don't benefit from brutal momentum much due to low hit mass of the wep

thanks for the tips, both. gonna have to try some things out

[cerulean pike]

it's not about the hit mass for BM and DB

it's that it carries the first target damage for the next 3 targets

[covert needle]

the blessing does that? cool

[cerulean pike]

yes

it's just never mentioned

[covert needle]

well that's a good enough reason surely

[ripe quest]

You have to get a weakspot kill for each one though for it to proc

Being able to 1 shot smth is cool with BM because now you can 1 shot 4 things.

[ripe quest]

Mk II is fun too, heavies can keep up with horde clear.

[cerulean moth]

What the fuck is up zealot chat nation

Oh and hi to exhillious

I guess.

[ripe quest]

Playtester version on the PS Vita trust me

[covert needle]

how do i avoid bricking this? haven't played with an axe since my first day, and really don't want to have to roll for another

[ornate bone]

AON to brutal momentum, crit chance to uhhhhh

[ripe quest]

Swap All of Nothing to BM and Crit Chance to Flak

[covert needle]

crit chance to uhhhhh it is

[ripe quest]

uhhhhhh it is isn't a blessing

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lurking-gif-22179921

[cerulean moth]

6kg

Pre work out meal

[covert needle]

thanks again

[covert needle]

6kg of what tho, cheese curds?

wait what are we measuring

[ornate bone]

My mom

[cerulean moth]

The cat

I’ll eat that fucking cat

The wretch

[covert needle]

that's not okay unless you're in china

[cerulean moth]

Imma bout to make it ok

Hand that feline over

[covert needle]

it looks big but they look like dobby underneath

all the fur, i mean

[cerulean moth]

Bro stop I’m already hungry

No need to convince me

[covert needle]

😤 🚫 🍗

[fleet zealot]

THE GLASS IS NOT FOR MY PROTECTION

[median steeple]

the beast is contained

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/no-realization-oh-god-surprised-what-gif-15852396

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/watchmen-gif-8794746

[ripe quest]

How the mighty have fallen

[ornate bone]

Pushed a poxburster and they got pushed towards me by pure magic

GOTY

[fleet zealot]

league is actually working

darkitde idk

it's laggier than it should be and now im finally tasting the audio bug

[bleak sierra]

What is impact?

[median steeple]

Stagger iirc

And some other things

[north sedge]

Just stagger

[fiery ingot]

which one of these should i eat?

[gray ice]

riposte

[hushed knoll]

Hi Vin

Long time no see

[fiery ingot]

ty

[hushed knoll]

[gray ice]

Hello Stannis

you said this last time

[hushed knoll]

What

[gray ice]

"Long time no see"

[ripe quest]

Hello stanular

[ripe quest]

What machinations are you cooking up today?

[hushed knoll]

Why aren't you named cub

[hushed knoll]

I had a circle bread egg sandwich

[gray ice]

Why aren't you

[hushed knoll]

I asked you first

[ripe quest]

cub

[daring belfry]

is thunderous even worth running on chaxe?

[ripe quest]

no

[gray ice]

because my name is Vin

[ripe quest]

It's slightly better than Headtaker but only for Carapace and it's per target instead of a damage buff.

[hushed knoll]

What if your name were Vine

[daring belfry]

I figured as much

[hushed knoll]

You're not typing

[gray ice]

Wouldn't it be something if my name was a strange one like Vine Wine

[hushed knoll]

What

[ripe quest]

Last time you said that I typed for 30 minutes just for you

🙂

[hushed knoll]

You can't make vines out of wine

[hushed knoll]

I didn't time it so it can't be true

[ripe quest]

mmm I dunno stan I can cook better than you

who has the right of way here

[hushed knoll]

Says whi

Who

[ripe quest]

Says me who's worked in a professional kitchen

It's also kinda goofy but I did Hello Fresh meals for like half a year.

[fiery ingot]

goofy

[polar nexus]

https://youtu.be/DWuAn6C8Mfc?si=5Z9nr-ctM4s32lVE this is dope

[bleak sierra]

Anyone have any good builds for judgement?

[fiery ingot]

crusher

[polar nexus]

swift certainty to the backstab cdr

it will proce more than you think

and everything works with judgement

but the finess bonus you get will benefit some weapon more, like the crusher, the rashad, the knife

the claw

[spare talon]

you do need the backstab damage at the top tho

[polar nexus]

not anymore

[spare talon]

WHAT

[polar nexus]

from what i read here and there

[spare talon]

DID THEY PATCH IT

[polar nexus]

@ripe quest

my lord

[spare talon]

I HAVE 1 MORE POINT I CAN USE WITH MY CRUSHER BUILD???

[fiery ingot]

you telling me you dont go the throwing knife way with crusher??

[spare talon]

yeah

i never use throwing knives

[fiery ingot]

i used to dislike them at the beginninf

but the top right branch is so useful that i forced myself to learn how to use them

now i like it a lot

[spare talon]

i also value the nodes on the left so much as well as stuns too

[fiery ingot]

left is good to

but i cant play without 15% toughness on dodge

[spare talon]

honestly neither can i, after using it for a while since maining dclaw for so long

[fiery ingot]

oh yeah

and the damage reduction on crit with dclaw is

god i love dclaw so much

just as much as i love crusher

[spare talon]

i run nearly every dr node with dclaw

because im a crutch :)

[fleet zealot]

nowadays u gotta be a little fruity to pull a bad bitch

[spare talon]

but its fine because i can take that dr and go a long way with it

[fiery ingot]

ok sorry for the silly english question

but whats the difference between crutch and clutch

i've seen both being used very often in this discord and idk which is which

[spare talon]

crutch is something that you rely on heavily, typically used in the context of something that is too powerful

[polar nexus]

brauto knive vet is the most fun i had in ages

[ripe quest]

They did yeah.

[median steeple]

a question about a language is never silly so dont worry bout it

[spare talon]

and clutch is something that is a godsend, either in terms of something that is a huge benefit to you, or someone saving a situation (like coming in clutch by rescuing everyone else)

[fiery ingot]

ohhh i see

tyvm

[spare talon]

crutch is quite literally from the object itself

a crutch

a thing that helps someone stand, since they cant without it

[polar nexus]

like twbs

[spare talon]

yeah

since clutch is more slang i looked up the exact definition in this context

[fiery ingot]

or the 15 toughness on dodge

[spare talon]

(of a player or action) achieving or characterized by success at a critical moment in a game or competition.

[rigid trellis]

vets and their plasma

[polar nexus]

i wished they removed stun when hit

just depletes stam

[spare talon]

hm

im trying to think

im gonna try out crusher with knives, which would cost me the left nodes at the top, but allow me to get both my DR nodes and tough on dodge

but now i have 3 points left, and im not sure where top put em

nvm im stupid

2 points, distain is literally right there

nvm 1 point, duelist is literally right there

[fiery ingot]

oh yeah the 20 unyielding and the 20 on stam deplete are huge if you can get any of those

[dense field]

Good balance is literally right there

[spare talon]

i could get dr on dodge since i already have lots of on dodge effects to make that even more stacked

but there is also desperation too

lemme show you what i got rn

[dense field]

might as well

juicy 5 second buff

[spare talon]

ive been so landlocked into stuns that ive never had this many points to throw at these buffs

[fiery ingot]

i started using crusher with a very similar setup as josho's guide, then i swapped to his same judgement setup which was a few points different from mine and is sooo good. i did try immo grenades, but i didnt like it at all. i wouldnt want to run stun nades on crusher since it already can stun pretty much everything

[polar nexus]

yeah go despe

[spare talon]

i just realized im getting real close to the josho build

[dense field]

Attack speed maybe?

[polar nexus]

or purge the unclean

[fiery ingot]

id take off soc and get the dr on dodge and atk speed

[median steeple]

yeah dont worry about nade choice as unlike other classes all of zealots nades are great

its mostly personal choice

[spare talon]

but

[fiery ingot]

think about it like this: +more dmg +crutch

[spare talon]

also tbh with the crusher, i dont feel like i need the atk speed when i already have 2x chastise charges

[dense field]

10% attack speed is 10% more dps always

[spare talon]

and atk speed doesnt stack nicely, so the more you have the less beneficial more is for you

[dense field]

While desperation is 20% more damage sometimes

[spare talon]

i push attack a LOT tho

[dense field]

Well then

[spare talon]

also idk why joshos build doesnt have distain when its free damage every other swing

[fiery ingot]

then get the 20 on stam deplete with the one point you have left, it will prob be very strong as josho's

[dense field]

it's settled

[spare talon]

i mean i could drop distain for the dr dodge

hmmmmmmmmmm

i hate having a forked road when it comes to builds

3 choices and 2 points

[fiery ingot]

yeah i chose disdain over the 25 ranged dmg for better horde clearing

[dense field]

I'd grab anoint and purge tbh

instead of SoC

[fiery ingot]

since i run laspistol, im not really benefitting from anoint

[dense field]

really now

[spare talon]

i run revolver and im typically only shooting crushers and specialists

[polar nexus]

infernus will benefit from it

[fiery ingot]

oh really?

fk

[dense field]

usually things that must die RIGHT NOW are already in your face

[polar nexus]

if you have the ranged wp in hand

[dense field]

trappers

dogs

that's when you could use more damage

[spare talon]

yeah and both die to a good round to the face, which is why i overlooked a damage bonus

[polar nexus]

every dots will be powered by anoint

[spare talon]

plus with crushers specifically, i would just CC them instead

[dense field]

Depends on a weapon

[spare talon]

with dclaw, yeah that would benefit me more, but i typically have other more pressing nodes

[fiery ingot]

does anoint also increases throwing knives dmg?

[spare talon]

i believe so?

id assume so since it inherents weapon blessings but i could be wrong

am eager to try out handcannon knives finally tho now that im genuinely using knives in a real build

[polar nexus]

and nades

the only condition is to have your ranged wp equipped

[fiery ingot]

pog

oh

not so pog

[sour hull]

What are some good blessings for eviscerator?

[dense field]

which eviscerator?

[rigid trellis]

rampage and savage sweep or rampage and shred for mk2

[sour hull]

Cool I have rampage and shred

Mk2

[polar nexus]

rampage + everything on mk15

[gray ice]

hab dreyko director tried to fuckin murder us

[polar nexus]

hab ending is on steroids now

[gray ice]

it was soooooo fun man

[junior vortex]

Playing Zealot smart just for my team to play on the edge of map with a boss.

[gray ice]

a pack of like 15 ragers came at us like 3 times

[junior vortex]

Literally annoying

Level 17 and 18 players on high level missions

[gray ice]

Im liking this mk XV the more I use it though, I was putting up insane boss dmg

[junior vortex]

Can people not play high level missions when they aren't ready.

Finish your build first.

[covert needle]

you can get carried just fine with half a build

[junior vortex]

Yes but my team mates play so close to the edge.

[ripe quest]

bro is using the boomer scoreboard

[junior vortex]

Like when you see a chaos spawn don't go near the edge of the map.

Please.

[misty ravine]

Rampage + Bloodthirsty is criminally underrated on the MkXV

[covert needle]

post a better board i dare you

[heavy arch]

i shill it daily

[junior vortex]

I would tearing up the boss but my team mates ran off scared.

[ripe quest]

Power DI, goated

[junior vortex]

The eviscerator tears apart bosses but.

[ripe quest]

I can find out exactly how many times I pressed e on an interactable

or dodged and which dodge performed

[gray ice]

the fact im using it at all is a miracle

[ripe quest]

what enemies I've dodged

[junior vortex]

The intractable are broken today I cannot see books

[ripe quest]

I can help you install mods

trust me my game is in a very good state rn

🙂

[gray ice]

nah it's not that I don't know how, I'm just lazy and don't bother

[covert needle]

i actually don't know what you mean by that. i'm running 'scoreboard' with default config

[gray ice]

there isn't much that feels "required" anymore as opposed to before when you needed shit like the reroll mod

[junior vortex]

I haven't played Zealot in so long

It's usually psyker or veteran.

[ripe quest]

It's a mod framework, currently in the modding discord. Any statistic at all is recorded and can be viewed post match.

[covert needle]

oh, jeez

i just wanna know if i pulled my weight or not

[ripe quest]

I can like, pull up boss damage and see what bosses, how much was each type of hit

lots of fun stuff

Also I mean just overproofs plugin is good too

or ovenproof?

one of them

[covert needle]

yeah

[covert needle]

i have that from a mod pack, gonna enable it. needed the push tbh, thanks

[livid gull]

there seems to be a high proportion of people in the ogryn chat that talk like in ogryn charachter

its odd

[heavy arch]

theyve done it since launch

v dedicated to ogryn

[faint cape]

please refer to the pins in ogryn chat

[median steeple]

Should have a graph about the opinions of certain topics

[mighty kelp]

Rashuns good

[fleet zealot]

yea

i wouldnt go to gold

unless you NEED thrust 4

to take off that

[gaunt bronze]

I dunno

Maybe you really like blocking

[hushed knoll]

Why are you sadge

[fleet zealot]

[fleet zealot]

i'd suggest vt2

[median steeple]

Hmmm shields

[bitter patio]

Ive been enjoying the mk4 heavy sword I just need to pack something for ragers because it takes 2 hits to kill one so more than 3 is really hard to fight. 2 is just stun them kill the one stun the other again then kill it but by the time you stun 3 the first one is back to normal. So I either have to use 2 knives on each of them or 1 knife one heavy or I can pack a graia brauto/ciag

[junior vortex]

Eviscerator is fun

[fleet zealot]

that's cool and all but

heavy sword only comes in 6, 7 and 9

and no heavy sword should have an issue with either rager with flak maniac perks+ deathblow

all of them can kill that sweet 4 at a time with the right heavy

[bitter patio]

must be the 6 then, its got a v and one I but I havent played today, the issue is the first heavy is slow and only hits 1 target then the second one either doesnt hit the weakpoint or again only hits one

[fleet zealot]

go headtaker to really guarantee it

[bitter patio]

but its amazing for hordes

and pretty much everything but ragers

[fleet zealot]

im not sure

cause I'm a 9 user

but i think 6 special actions->heavy for elites

but i could be misremembering

[bitter patio]

I got a 523 one and havent rolled any others, the special does a stun and lets you 2 hit the ragers, but I also havent optimized it because again I havent rolled anything its got deathblow and a good other blessing

I need perfect strike, definitly alright guess Im rolling heavy swords now

[fleet zealot]

no

not perfect strike

deathblow+headtaker, rampage if you dont have headtaker

perfect strike is like, only used on the mk15 evi

[bitter patio]

well its got a tier 3 deathblow and a tier 4 headtaker

whats wrong with perfect strike Im already running a crit build it seems perfect

[fleet zealot]

heavysword has poor crit ratios

and no synergy really, it has normal crit chance, and you get a lot more mileage out of raw power/damage

it works cause both crit cdr and heavy sword are strong asf

but you'd have better time using dclaw, chsword, and evi

since they can roll shred

[bitter patio]

well i dont have curios for martyr and the crits are better for it than momentum because it costs less points, I did feel like rashad killed things faster but thats probably because I have perfect rolls on damage on that one

its just short

[fleet zealot]

it doesn't like scourge bleed cause it wants to kill enemies

[cerulean moth]

I’ll ratio YOU idiot

[bitter patio]

only real issue Im having with it is its basically a worse weapon spec vet thats just tankier and faster

but powersword is just overpowered not the heavy sword being underpowered

[fleet zealot]

actually besides the mk6 wacky push attack

[north sedge]

Crit build is mainly for cdr, very few weapons benefit in terms of dmg

[fleet zealot]

heavy sword is considered better than powersword

[junior vortex]

I have a team of three zealots

Let's go

[bitter patio]

yea the push attack is worthless, Id rather just use a stun into a heavy which does 3x the damage

I think I was getting 400 damage crits out of the push attack vs 700 with the special and 2k with the heavy attack one

which is the frustrating part, I can one shot ragers with the heavy attack one in meatgrinder then when I do it in game it takes like 3 hits

[fleet zealot]

no sorry

the mk6 powersword push attack

the thrust while activated can oneshot crushers in some builds

[bitter patio]

the mk6 powersword push attack is beyond broken

yea

its the reason I took the rending on crit off my revolver

[polar nexus]

I think it's 2 shots

[bitter patio]

the light attack after is a free attack you dont have to do anything for

so its like a free combo attack in 1 attack

[polar nexus]

i still have some trouble to to get that l4 everytime

[bitter patio]

yea its timing is pretty precise I stopped trying to get it the fastest way and just took more time to get it 100% of the time

its like a quarter of a second difference between it not coming out and it being the fastest it can be

[polar nexus]

yep

[junior vortex]

Push attack is not worthless.

It's stops gunners from shooting you and buys time to kill them.

And trappers.

Hounds charging at you use your push attack.

[bitter patio]

the special does all that but with twice the damage, the push is fine the attack you get after is basically just a light attack thats straight down

which is worthless because its the same damage but no cleave because its a 90 degree angle

[junior vortex]

Against huge hordes you seriously expect to use your charged attack block and hitting them with it kills them too

You realize you can combo this.

[bitter patio]

you can combo it into another light, the whole thing takes the time of 3 lights has zero stagger from what Ive tested and does the damage of 2 lights but one of them is single target

[junior vortex]

It's not useless it has kept me alive.

[bitter patio]

Id rather do a light heavy

which mark

because Im talking about mk6

which is useless

[junior vortex]

About that though when there is a huge horde or you go knife zealot pretty damn useful

[bitter patio]

this is strictly mk6 heavysword push attack

[junior vortex]

Oh on eviscerator It's good

[bitter patio]

there are amazing pushattacks, ie powersword mk6

but the mark 6 heavy is awful

[junior vortex]

The push on eviscerator is pretty damn good. When I use it.

I don't use heavy swords.

The hammer and eviscerator are my preferred weapons.

[bitter patio]

yea I dont use either of those, evis doesnt do enough damage for the time it takes to swing for me and hammer is general just feels bad. id rather go with a rashad if I wanted pure damage

probably just dont have the combos right for the evis though ive seen people use it way better

[fleet zealot]

i dont think i can wait till taco tuesday

i want a quesadilla

[native cargo]

Wonder if FS will have ferrets and possums as the drip next week

Just a silly little fella on your head

[fleet zealot]

felinids

[native cargo]

or become one of them strange felinid thingers

[fleet zealot]

but they are possumids and weaselids

[native cargo]

yus

[fleet zealot]

ooo 80% burn flamer
36% cloud radius
fuck u melk

[steep flame]

Did the game wipe?

[median steeple]

epic servers moment

[steep flame]

Hmm

[native cargo]

game wipe?

I was noticing my crusher combos were off. Did people get kicked from the server on mass or something lmao?

[rocky marsh]

i tried to solo 5 maulers and 3 shotgunners and then i died xD
but the saddest part was my team just decided to let me die to progress to next area

;v

If there are like 10+ gunners

im using crusher
there are scab bruisers

what do i do

im in the middle

[rocky marsh]

@golden anchor mercantile end i went up the stairs

the bulwark tip really helped

the PA into light loop

bricked?

[split canyon]

Nay?

[gaunt bronze]

tbh I'd like this one

popping off heads

[light holly]

a little

wait

Not unarmoured

[ripe quest]

Best you can get is a 4/5 with it.

[ripe quest]

See what the 2nd blessing is.

[balmy sinew]

My time to dakka now, kindred?

[split canyon]

It's in the Sour Milk store

[rocky marsh]

ah so just get the blessing?

[ripe quest]

Just skip on it then, save your coins.

[rocky marsh]

also mommentum is really weird for me
sometimes while fighting i get 20 stacks
sometimes i get 9

[ember yew]

dodges

[ripe quest]

You could steal BM off of it. Alt just swap Decapitator and +Fodder.

[ember yew]

that's the only way to stack it up to 20 in a fight

[rocky marsh]

oh yeah i did notice if i didn't fight as many enemies i get like 9 lol

And when im surrounded or playing more cautiously because theres 2 crusher and 3 rager as well

[ripe quest]

Though, I gotta check something with Decapitator rq

[rocky marsh]

ngl i thought decap would be good with BM

[fleet zealot]

Nah

Weakspot damage calculation sucks

[ripe quest]

I've heard it's okish but it can be annoying to stack

It'll outpace Headtaker

[fleet zealot]

BM is just kinda frosting for consistency

Does it really

[ripe quest]

120% finesse is huge regardless of the weapon.

[jaunty lion]

Hello Zealots! Martyrdom. How does it compare to the other keystones? Is it worth taking? What is it good for other than clutching when at low health?

I'm currently deciding between a crusher build that uses chastise and either martyrdom or momentum

[ripe quest]

It'll offer more damage than Judgement and Blazing Piety and it doesn't require you to be at 1 wound to do it. It synergizes really well with BM/Deathblow since it's breakpoint oriented. Bleed for the Emperor will also naturally proc more often when you have max wounds, though some opt to run a mix of Toughness curios for higher effective toughness.

It can be nice if you're comfortable with your movement too. Judgement will offer the dodge buffs, a more passive activeness, and ranged damage increase and Blazing Piety will enable crit CDR builds.

With smth like Crusher you can run any build, it combos well with just about everything rn.

[rocky marsh]

imo spamshout build still feels the most reliable

and consistent

marty the game doesn't get fun and actually feels kinda icky to play until you are like 3 wounds in

[fleet zealot]

Fuck i forgot it got giga buffed

[jaunty lion]

Thanks for all that juicy info! I'm making three different builds so far trying every branch of the skill tree spread across all three so I wanted to cover all my bases, but I heard very mixed things on Martyrdom

[fleet zealot]

Martyrdom can be played very poorly

[jaunty lion]

Yeah not having any effect without being down a few wounds is kind of gross... But I loved the Unleashed in Vermintide 2 so I want to give it a shot

[fleet zealot]

By people that misunderstand it, if anything it is a tanky bruiser build that has insane durability potential

Also 1 wound of hp left of martyrdom is a high you cant get anywhere else

[jaunty lion]

Gotcha! In that case it does sound like exactly what I'm looking for in my crusher build

[rocky marsh]

as an average skill player shoutspam feels tankier when im using my brain

but i no thats not true

esp with bleed for emprah

[fleet zealot]

Restoring faith, bleed for the emperor, and holy revenant lets you maintain a survivable amount hp

[ripe quest]

Yeah it's decent, unfortunately it's got a dumb proc condition. The situations where it'll be proc'd and be useful will come up kinda often honestly but you could also just like, run Deci for more damage or Headtaker for more sustain. Headtaker will literally always be up and it's only a small bit less than Decap.

[jaunty lion]

Alright thanks guys! I'll give a tank martyrdom build a shot.

So far I've got a knife/chorus "healer" build, an axe/shotgun shroudfield "DPS" build, and a crusher/chastise "tank" build... Got all my bases covered

[ornate bone]

The problem with decapitator is:

• It requires you to one-shot an enemy (was it on a headshot?)
• One-shotting enemies is usually limited to lesser enemies, such as hordes, shooters and bruisers
• If you already one-shot these enemies, then are you not using decapitator to build stacks to switch targets to enemies you can't normally one-shot?
• But if you rely on that, it means you need to have lesser enemies handy at all times to make use of the big bonus decapitator gives you, and the game won't always favor your conditions of "I need to kill these lesser enemies so I can go one-shot this elite/specialist"
• The more consistent and versatile a blessing is, the better it is, which is why headtaker is one of the most suggested: its condition is merely hitting any enemy in the roster at any time

[jaunty lion]

The crit knife build is goofy... Constant chorus from all the crit CDR

[ripe quest]

It's better done on other weapons.

Knife has really low cleave, some weapons can get full ults per swing.

[jaunty lion]

Is it really? It seems stupid good from what I've played with the knife fast attack speed and high crit chance

[ornate bone]

Limbsplitter is another blessing I dislike for similar reasons: I don't always have the time to make use of the buff, and at that point I have to start playing around the buff instead of using the buff to my benefit at all times possible

[jaunty lion]

Ohhhhh it counts per target? Did not know that

[ornate bone]

Yeah, it's one of the reasons crit CDR is fucking busted

[fleet zealot]

Try chsword or dclaw

[ripe quest]

Try out a Shred + Savage Sweep/Wrath Mk IV Chainsword. It has some of the best crowd clear and Shred can start up Scourge.

[ornate bone]

You get an eviscerator, do two swings on a horde and there goes the cooldown of your chastise

[fleet zealot]

Both are almost as fast as knife but can cleave a lot more

[jaunty lion]

Oh damn that is good to know! I had no idea it worked that way. Well crap! Does that mean knife is better in a Shroudfield build?

[fleet zealot]

Nah

Knife is best with chastise

(Imo)

Shroudfield works but you always want the duelist talent

If you are running knife

[ripe quest]

It can depend.

Knife is a finesse weapon, even just doing a facestab will hit for more damage with Knife.

[jaunty lion]

Gotcha... Would the crusher work decently in a chorus/crit build?

Compared to the knife anyway

[ripe quest]

Yeah that's fine.

With knife I'd personally just recommend avoiding crit CDR, it's fine w/ like Shroudfield

[jaunty lion]

Gotcha. Maybe I'll switch my weapons around then...

[ripe quest]

Judgement can make the dodges borderline absurd + you get passive buffs for doing what you'd normally do on a knife

[jaunty lion]

That's a good point. You probably build momentum like crazy.

I might just switch my crusher to the chorus/crit build then

And do chastise/judgement for knife

[ripe quest]

Something I do want to point out btw, Crusher's special attack uniquely has unlimited cleave barring armor bounce stuff. With crit CDR a crit special swing into a crowd will get you an ult back if there are enough enemies available.

[jaunty lion]

Oh that is beautiful... I wasn't feeling zealot at first after playing vet for so long but it's really bringing me back in haha

[ripe quest]

iirc this misses out on damage since the base horde clear combo will do more damage but it can be fun to mix it in.

[jaunty lion]

I'll be sure to give it a shot! So then do you guys have a recommendation for a martyrdom weapon? I would probably switch my Rashad axe/shroudfield build over to it

[fleet zealot]

Chaxe

Chaxes loves martyrdom

Mk4 literally becomes a statcheck weapon where you brainlessly swing heavies for any group of targets 2 or more

[ripe quest]

Hsword with Deathblow is really fun on Martyr too. Any Mk works for it.

[jaunty lion]

ChaxeFerret loves Chaxe

Hmm didn't really have those on my radar but I'll have to check them out

[fleet zealot]

And because fatshark hates logic and consistency if you dont run thrust on mk4 (imo slaught+headtaker is better, thrust is for mk12)

[ripe quest]

Chaxe is pretty fun on it. Mk IV lights will 2 shot ragers.

[fleet zealot]

Mk4 light attack spam out dps’s your rev’d heavies

[ember yew]

TL;DR Headtaker is better when you fight with bosses and elites and you dont need Decapitator for trash clear, anything can clear trash (Rashad MK2 as example)

[jaunty lion]

Damn that's impressive

[opal root]

I would think if i wanted to make a Saltsypre themed build for fun i would want a saber and a pistol.

[ripe quest]

oh btw

[median steeple]

hmmm playdough

[jaunty lion]

Alright folks I'm gonna stop theory crafting and get to bed! I appreciate all your help!

Stay righteous, brothers and sisters

[sterile stone]

Mans playing in

Not fully rendered footage mode

[ripe quest]

PS Vita playtester build

[ripe quest]

still down btw to play whenever. Not rn since it's like midnight for me but tomorrow or whatever.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/891753453913792554/1188442996673351742/mammoth_slam.gif?ex=65a3c54a&is=6591504a&hm=153c2415721872e1e6bc448aa1a2bf48d404407f6d0881a9743060ca7fb1e2a6&

[ornate bone]

Man says whenever and then says not rn

Man lies

[sterile stone]

My bad chief

I got caught up in a Valheim run

And trying to finish dailies in F76

[ripe quest]

Yeah Valheim turns into a second life whenever I pick it up, such an immersing game.

[sterile stone]

right now

I just wanna learn to make soup

I found berries and mushrooms

But don't know what to do with them

I think I joined a modded server once or something

Cause when I booted the game back up

I had bronze armor and black metal weapons

I don't even remember getting these

[ripe quest]

Someone with cheat engine kept fucking up and just gave a bunch of people black metal weapons

[sterile stone]

Wouldn't be the first time

Looking at Sons of The Forest

[ember yew]

On that note, Palworld is really overrated and does not deserve that online numbers, they basically ported they previous game - Craftopia

over

and added pokemons to it

its still barebone experience

[sterile stone]

I actually miss Craftopia

I stopped playing before the seemless world update

[ember yew]

for gods sake

this shows how much people loves pokemon

not that the game is actually good, i've spent so far around 5 hours in it

its like 4/10 at best

[ripe quest]

wdym the AI generated pokemon clones + the questionable devs totally deserve my money.

[sterile stone]

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-cat-cheesed-gif-23556240

[ember yew]

they are not really questionable, i had a talk with them due to my job back in 2019, when they released their first game

Overdungeon

but they are a small team and it will stay like this for like another 3 years

[native cargo]

Didn't realize someone brought in the cat food thus the eldest broke onto the bag. This house will not recover

[ember yew]

or like 5 years

[sterile stone]

Isn't it a Japanese indie studio tho

[ripe quest]

I suppose I shouldn't talk about it too much since I don't want to get into politics.

[ember yew]

[native cargo]

This is an image before she broke into the bag

[ripe quest]

The CEO of the company is super shady imo is all I will say.

[sterile stone]

Theft

[ember yew]

dw, no hard feelings there for these devs, its just that people expectations are way above than this game actually is in real experience

[native cargo]

A warlord takes what they want. She is one

[median steeple]

holy fuck

burger

attack

[polar nexus]

why would you avoid crit cdr?

[ripe quest]

Low cleave + other Keystones can offer more damage. If fast CDR spam to a similar degree is desired other weapons can do it better.

[stiff timber]

crit cdr lacerate

infinite cdr with momentum

[median steeple]

lacerate flesh tearer

yum

[stiff timber]

hit a body bleed, instant +30% crit chance, more stealth

[ornate bone]

I saw a guy with white ammo take pickups from a guy with red twice

At least one of them was an ammo bag

[spare talon]

takes 3 hits on an enemy that is already bleeding to get that crit chance

[ornate bone]

Some people really fat-finger the interact key during downtimes

[south folio]

you sick bastard

[stiff timber]

its rly fast with knife, might as well instant

[south folio]

(clearly stabbing it would've been more humane)

[spare talon]

but you could also be using flesh tearer for more bleed stacks and not having to gimp yourself on damage by hitting body hits with a finesse weapon

it already becomes a feedback loop

[gray ice]

I am become vietnam

[spare talon]

this is perfect psa material

[gray ice]

this gonna be the go to clip for when people ask why kant or why immo nades

[languid jetty]

what's a good amount of damage to do in a match

[spare talon]

that is entirely dependant on what weapons youre using, what difficulty, what modifiers, what youre teammates are using, etc

[gray ice]

whatever amounts gets you to the end

[south folio]

do hishock in 25-35 minutes with >600 plasteel and call it a day

[languid jetty]

At least 30?

[gray ice]

22 mins, goin for speedrun gold

[languid jetty]

30 damage

[south folio]

very true

[spare talon]

id say at least 35 if you wanna be considered a pro

[south folio]

36 damages

[gray ice]

most games I'm hitting at least 2 dmg so I'm pretty much the best

[languid jetty]

Out of curiosity is is theoretically possible to beat something like ascension riser without dealing any damage at all

[spare talon]

yes

[gray ice]

yes just ask the smite psykers I get paired with

[south folio]

i know that josho has done some pacifist runs pretty closely or finished them

[gray ice]

in actuality it'd be pretty hard

[south folio]

if you have a team of 3 other people to do it with, it'd probably be easier

[spare talon]

it is possible to beat every mission except assassination or consignment yard without dealing damage

[south folio]

but josho was doing some fun solo pacifist runs

[spare talon]

but it is very very fucking hard to do so

[south folio]

so he'd be the person to ask if you're interested

I think he was doing it on stealth vet

[sterile stone]

Old pacifist run use to just be speedrun knife zealots

Going 95 mph through the map

[gray ice]

if spawns never catch up it's not terrible

[ornate bone]

I just got abandoned in the pre-match by a knife flamer zealot