#zealot-class

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north sedge
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8

cerulean pike
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Now it’s 2.5. Which is, very not much

mental coral
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Wats the node you want then

north sedge
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second wind

shy hull
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EWEW nor the Momentum are better on their own, but i think getting both give more value than spending 2 points for 50% extra toughness on kills : But you can disagree

cerulean pike
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Yeah. People don’t go for that.

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Second wind exists

shy hull
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Second wind is incredible

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but i'm talking about the talent tree posted up here whoich doesn't have it

rapid trail
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hey guys, which blessings for agri braced autogun?

shy hull
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and if you're not going for second wind, i think 2 talents points for the 50% extra toughness on melee kills are a bit of a waste

cerulean pike
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oh just saw that

mental coral
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Second wind is on the other side of my tree

north sedge
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the momentum one im not a fan of because you're not really in control of when it pops, often not there when you need it or going off when you dont

cerulean pike
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My cat was busy assaulting me

mental coral
wraith helm
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If immo nades werent so good, i probably would have gone for second wind

north sedge
cerulean pike
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Are we talking momentum (keystone) or momentum (blessing)

shy hull
north sedge
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keystone

mental coral
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And it’s connected to knife disgust

shy hull
rapid trail
cerulean pike
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Yeah I think most people don’t touch that either

vast basin
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Momentum keystone is perhaps the best keystone in the game though

indigo quartz
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The evis mk15 plays like old combat knife but slower and overall stronger

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So it's nice

cerulean pike
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Momentum is not the best. It is fairly balanced though.

shy hull
mental coral
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Idk about best

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Doesn’t ogryn have some rly stupid keystones

shy hull
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Zealot have the best keystones period

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You can pretty much use any keystone with any weapon it's versatile af

wraith helm
cerulean pike
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Yeah but twbs isn’t a keystone

shy hull
vast basin
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Yeah twbs ain't a keystone

mental coral
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I’m psure ogryn keystones are better than zealot keystones but

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I could be wrong

cerulean pike
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They’re not

wraith helm
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For keystones, momentum is yeah. Im just saying for a meta pick, twbs is

shy hull
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No, feel no pain is great but not better than martyrdom

vast basin
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Eh, I'd take momentum over any ogryn keystone.

shy hull
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and the other 2 are so bad (for ogryn)

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And momentum is underrated af

cerulean pike
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no it’s not

shy hull
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it's so good, people should consider using it a lot more instead of martyrdom

mental coral
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What

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The left side keystone on ogryn is good

cerulean pike
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do you know what underrated means

shy hull
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I know what it means

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A lot of people on reddit and discord says it's decent at best

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while it's amazing

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Is that's not the correct definition of underrated idk what is

mental coral
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I think you are overrating momentum tbh but

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That’s just me

north sedge
shy hull
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It gives extra attack speed and damage on both melee and ranged weapon + extra dodge speed and dodge distance

north sedge
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we like the momentum here

mental coral
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What dodge speed and distance

cerulean pike
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Yeah it buffs dodge

north sedge
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it buffs the dodge yea

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secret buffs

mental coral
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Ah

north sedge
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keep it secret, keep it safe

shy hull
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It's not shown in the tooltip for the keystone, but it give pretty stonks dodges

mental coral
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I’ll take your word for it then

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I only use momentum on my twins build so

cerulean pike
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They also nerfed the secret buff this patch slightly I think

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If I remember correctly

coarse birch
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Works well with good balance

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As well

north sedge
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i only use momentum

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period

spare dome
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It's unfortunate that Loner exists and is where it is.

shy hull
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The thing i like about momentum compared to martyrdom is that you dcon't have to go for triple wounds curios

north sedge
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i just find marty to be very dull

shy hull
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Loner feels like no aura at all ngl

mental coral
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It’s because it is basically no aura

spare dome
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That's exactly what it is

mental coral
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You get a rly shit regen if you are alone that you otherwise wouldn’t have

shy hull
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I'd be on par with the other aura if you always counted as 4 though

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you'd feel like a true "loner" then

spare dome
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It really wouldn't.

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Coherency regen is super stipulated.

mental coral
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I mean it would be better

spare dome
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Shit is rarely on

shy hull
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Count as 4 + 90% regen toughness from curios, i would play that every day lmao

mental coral
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But yeah on zealot if you have loner active a lot you are doing something wrong

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Loner only activates if you are completely alone and not close to any enemies iirc

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You are playing zealot

spare dome
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You are in fact not doing anything. Yes.

shy hull
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you get it by not taking dmg

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not by "not being close to ennemeis"

spare dome
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You have to be completely out of combat.

north sedge
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no

mental coral
north sedge
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but you can't be in melee range

shy hull
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Damn

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that's dogshit

mental coral
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I believe it’s 3m?

north sedge
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it will work if you're being shot at

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with nothing nearby

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but yea melee it goes away

royal vortex
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loner is also weird because its in the same 'path' as second wind

mental coral
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But yeah basically you should only take loner if you literally can’t afford the points to get another aura

spare dome
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thats why i hate it

coarse birch
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Yeah the reason toughness regen curio perks on zealot is so mid is because you cant be in melee which like

spare dome
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such a convenient place for such a shitty aura

coarse birch
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Isnt great

mental coral
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I mean I don’t particularly enjoy knife or loner so it’s like

shy hull
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i was thinking that as long as i wasn't getting hit i was fine

mental coral
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Toughnes regen is apparently bad on pretty much any class except ogryn? (According to puri)

shy hull
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It's good early game

royal vortex
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toughness regen on ogryn is also incredibly whelming considering

spare dome
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Still pretty bad tbh

royal vortex
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u are playing ogryn

spare dome
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There are better things to boost.

shy hull
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i liked having it when i was playing psyker lv 16/24

coarse birch
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Yeah ogryns not running out of toughness

mental coral
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Ik pygex likes toughness regen on psyker but he’s playing under the doctrine of “you shouldn’t be getting close to enemies” as a psyker

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So that depends on how you play psyker

sharp zodiac
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Toughness Regen is nice on the "no my beloved said social distancing" psyker

shy hull
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I mean, i was low level psyker before the class rework

royal vortex
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i play under the doctrine of getting blown up by a burster that only made noise while it was in my peripheral vision and then goes silent

shy hull
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so i pretty mpuch were spamming brain burst lol

mental coral
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You never spammed BB as a psyker pre rework

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That’s uh

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Well you still don’t

sharp zodiac
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That's some malice stuff

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With due respect ofc

mental coral
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The only time you spammed BB was like closed beta psyker

royal vortex
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@frank night i finish typing before i hit the ground

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the future is now

sharp zodiac
shy hull
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i had shit weapons

fleet zealot
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Burtle

mental coral
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The power of purge staff

shy hull
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because i wasn't gonna spend ressources for it

mental coral
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But I digress

fleet zealot
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Im running out of it is what it is

IMG_0176.jpg
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But this image goes hard asf feel free to screenshot

mental coral
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I need to make a crit bleed claw build

sharp zodiac
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You can have some of my "welp, shit happens"

coarse birch
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Ngl i am always near enemies as psyker

sharp zodiac
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Like spawning under the map

fleet zealot
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Psyker melee is so busted

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Idk why some are allergic to melee combat

sharp zodiac
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I really only whip it out if I need to slap someone who's annoying me

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Like mutants

coarse birch
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Like i run dd scriers my ass is W keying at the enemy

frank night
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Pinged

vast basin
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I find it's the vets that are allergic to melee not psykers

coarse birch
wraith helm
frank night
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FRANCE

sharp zodiac
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Yes

fleet zealot
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Ive met melee allergic ogryns before

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Shit is fucked

sharp zodiac
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How the fuck

frank night
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Oh it was josho

sharp zodiac
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Yeah

fleet zealot
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People are genuinely scared of heretics

royal vortex
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i would never ping mittins

coarse birch
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I play psyker for the melee

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Tbh

south folio
spare dome
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cant wait for the death of survivalist

frank night
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Mutie

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Elevator

royal vortex
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ds4 laspistol is the only reason i havent deleted my psyker

sharp zodiac
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I like the dueling sword a lot but my playstyle isn't really up in the enemies face a lot besides circumstances that are out of my control

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Or near enemies

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I should say

south folio
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psyker not haviing a precision force staff is really making be sad

frank night
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Social distance

royal vortex
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my brain has been expanded to understand my gripes with psyker

frank night
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Very wise

south folio
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i also want a 2h force sword that has an actual offensive push-attack

royal vortex
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peril as a mechanic is super like

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uninteresting

wraith helm
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Yeah just

frank night
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Ur brain is using the extra space from the bags under ur eyes

wraith helm
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Remove peril

south folio
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i like it because free money and i can spam it without players complaining

royal vortex
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almost every staff uses it as an on/off switch and thats p much it u can do the action or u cant

mental coral
wraith helm
mental coral
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It’s why we got the shitshow that was launch psyker

sharp zodiac
royal vortex
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psyker also gets like a ton of passive buffs

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and not that many cool talents™️

sharp zodiac
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Or 2 on crit

south folio
frank night
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The Biden blast

sharp zodiac
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I'd love a beam staff

south folio
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yeah zealot having Duellist makes me so fucking sad

royal vortex
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the talent tree is really arbitrarily restrictive

south folio
coarse birch
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Psyker duellist would go crazy

south folio
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they could've just added conditions so that you have to do X thing to get Y buff to spice things up

royal vortex
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ogryn and psyker both suffer from the "too few active talents" thing but only psyker has the god awful tree design backing it up

coarse birch
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I kinda just run the same psyker build every game but swap weapons

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Cause like

sharp zodiac
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Dueling sword but no duelist talent smh

mental coral
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Look if crab gets his way zealots get dueling sword and Psykers get shotguns

coarse birch
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It doesnt really matter?

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Unless im making specifically like fire trauma

royal vortex
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i am fine with no psyker shotguns on the condition we are compensating with a shotgun staff

sharp zodiac
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I only run assail or blows up mind with mind

royal vortex
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2 builds basically

sharp zodiac
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And blaze trauma or grape flavored balls

royal vortex
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it's super annoying

mental coral
median steeple
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I used to

mental coral
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Give me my funny shotgun Psyker

sharp zodiac
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Shotgker

frank night
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The schrongler

royal vortex
sharp zodiac
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Noni

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Shotyker

frank night
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Frence

royal vortex
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but theyre cool so they get a pass

south folio
royal vortex
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brain wave

frank night
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A neuron has flickered

royal vortex
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duellist being the thing it is is weird

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vet and zealot take turns having "x talent but better/worse"

mental coral
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I saw a Reddit comment at one point going “second wind isn’t that good cuz it’s only on SUCCESSFUL dodge”

royal vortex
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how many dodges are u failin

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in a real match

cerulean pike
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All of em

mental coral
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Idk but apparently it was enough for that redditor to discount it

royal vortex
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this is one of those takes that literally gets defeated by recording 10 mins of gameplay

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and checking the buff icons

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like ur never really looking except if u have downtime

south folio
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or players who don't dodge much

royal vortex
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so just record some footage and then go back and click through and see if its up enough

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if u dont dodge much u just die tbf

coarse birch
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Idk how you dont dodge much

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Very little reason not to

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Unless your like actually mashing it and not waiting 2 seconds for it to come back

south folio
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people who subscribe to the block lifestyle or they don't realize just how lenient dodges are

royal vortex
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u get some sea sponge tier guys with 5 wounds

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who suicide into flame barrels

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with 1 non-corrupted wound remaining

south folio
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that's true, the dodge refresh isn't exactly known to players

fleet zealot
sharp zodiac
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I dodge too much

south folio
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a UI element for dodges without requiring mods would be nice

sharp zodiac
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I blame the fromsoft games

south folio
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a bar showing how many efficient dodges you have and the refresh bar

frank night
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Leave ur dodge bound to space

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So u jump and humiliate urself

sharp zodiac
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I don't care if it wasn't close to hitting me I'm not trusting the hitbox

royal vortex
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numericui should just be base game

mental coral
south folio
royal vortex
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oh hey look

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an agri shotgun clip

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o man this is before keystones aint it

frank night
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And dont get ti hide ur incompetence

vast basin
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My dodge is still space, but jump is reboundthumbsup_ogryn

frank night
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Oh he's back on this

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Truly sad

coarse birch
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Yeah numeric should 100% be default

royal vortex
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i havent played the agri shotgun in a MINUTE

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hmmmm

coarse birch
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Agri is fun

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Its just

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Revo exists

royal vortex
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i am an anti revolver gamer

coarse birch
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And kant doesnt even have a range issue

royal vortex
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me make precision weapon

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me make precision weapon jump around when gunner exist

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DIE

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I HATE YOU FATSHARK

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REMOVE SUPPRESSION

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NOW

coarse birch
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Revo needs a lot of things

south folio
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and then we just bodyshot enemies anyways 😔

coarse birch
royal vortex
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i played some agri iag sharpshooter today

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shooting through the shieldgryn

south folio
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binch

vast basin
royal vortex
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who valiantly defended me from a handful of poxwalkers

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was nice

coarse birch
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I have been running brauto brauto and new chaxe on vet

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Its not too bad

royal vortex
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i did a lil bit of new chainaxe and graia iag shout vet

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that was uh

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something

coarse birch
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Its fun to pop a speed stim, exe stance, and then brace the graia brauto

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Into a beast

royal vortex
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dc7 and agri iag is like the hipster loadout because ppl ape a bit too much about how good columnus is relative to the other 2

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the bad part about playing with ogryns is u cant fkin parry ANYTHING that is in both of ur melee ranges

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because they will throw the guys around

sharp zodiac
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I've been having fun with helbore

Melee i haven't tried anything else cause my vet melees suck

mental coral
coarse birch
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I actually like agri iag, its base unyielding damage feels nice

mental coral
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Just lmb spam with chaxe?

sharp zodiac
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Minus my power sword and mk3 shovel

royal vortex
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yea i mean its got a roughly similar damage profile to the new evis

coarse birch
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Yeah vet attack speed buffs makes chaxe horde clear fine

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As well

royal vortex
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so u just grab headtaker and kinda deal with it

coarse birch
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And your prob running wep specialist

royal vortex
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i dont remember tbh

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ive played a shit ton of zealot because i was on the quest to master the crusher

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and ive started playing vet so i can remember what its like to not have until death and twbs (the ultimate crutches)

lean lark
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i recall you saying something against the agri iag

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a while ago

royal vortex
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my opinions are fluid

coarse birch
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I find i run out of ammo like in the clip on agri

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For some reason

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Its not even a super small clip

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Probably just used to graia

royal vortex
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i find the reload so quick it doesnt really matter

naive star
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Gonna try Martyrdom Zealot, do i need to make +1wound curios for it?

royal vortex
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i played a bunch of bolter back when u could just hit guys in the chest with it

naive star
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(mostly for penances)

coarse birch
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Also i should say mag not clip

royal vortex
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and mastered the reload

south folio
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maybe it's the noise, since I keep thinking i've run out of ammo and reload prematurely on the agri when I start hearing the clicking noise

south folio
royal vortex
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well ok one time i went

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oh man

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36 rounds in the mag

coarse birch
royal vortex
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better reload

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it's full

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am i fucking stupid

royal vortex
coarse birch
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Ive been playing bolter again

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Actually

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Its like

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What youd expect

royal vortex
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u can make it work

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but i dont wanna make it work

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i dont really like the bolter except for left side vet

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because i can justify just having the gun out all the time

coarse birch
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I should have used it back when it was good more

south folio
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smh

royal vortex
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if u run full left side vet

coarse birch
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I only used it a handful of times

royal vortex
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and hit heads

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it is unironically just

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p12 bolter

south folio
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should've followed my journey into vet 2 months before patch 13

royal vortex
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like legitimately it will do the same shit

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u can demolish elites just as quick

coarse birch
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Does the mag dump still work too

fleet zealot
royal vortex
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not nearly as well

stiff dagger
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im thinking switch shred to bloodletter to dealt with heavy armoured units

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whatcha think?

coarse birch
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I dont recommend bloodletter personally

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I never find bleed to be a significant enough damage source personally

royal vortex
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oh man i open vet chat and some dude is using deadshot graia brauto. i was not prepared

coarse birch
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Id run sweep prob

coarse birch
royal vortex
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what a guy

naive star
royal vortex
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i respect it

coarse birch
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Oh man ive gotta

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Not get Sway

north sedge
royal vortex
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accuracy through volume of fire

coarse birch
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On my brauto

royal vortex
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SNIPIN'S A GOOD JOB MATE
dumps 30 rounds in the general vicinity of the target

sharp zodiac
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Garuntee you won't go hungry

north sedge
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bloodletter would do jack shit, especially on chord

sterile stone
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Got people getting together to play

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I know you don't like playing with a mf

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But others might enjoy playing with you

median steeple
sterile stone
median steeple
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ah nah I dont mind playing with you either

sterile stone
median steeple
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but I can only recall that barotrauma game

frank night
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I am a bad influence

sterile stone
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We don't speak of that

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That Barotrauma game

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Was trauma

median steeple
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where I was beaten to death by sharks

sterile stone
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Correction

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Blahjahs

placid fiber
sterile stone
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Or how ever they're spelled

sterile stone
royal vortex
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blahaj

median steeple
frank night
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His veneer of civility is easily broken

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Simply hold onto the crate

placid fiber
royal vortex
frank night
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Behold

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Behold the violence in the system

placid fiber
median steeple
royal vortex
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i asked nicely multiple times

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i was discriminated against for bringing a laspistol on psyker

coarse birch
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What

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Thats good shit tho

median steeple
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At least it wasn't an autogun

placid fiber
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For carrying the team?

royal vortex
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he just ignored me

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when 2 ppl crashed

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and it was me and him fighting the slug

coarse birch
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Dont diss autogun on psyker

royal vortex
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he fucking tuned me out

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dude graia iag psyker is the SHIT yo

frank night
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I was brain bursting

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And there was an American shouting

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But that is usual

royal vortex
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the almonds got lodged in your ears i didn't shout

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i asked

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nicely

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and then i shouted once

frank night
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So I distegard

royal vortex
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after u ignored me

frank night
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Disregard

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I know when he dies in lethal company

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The shouting is abruptly silenced

royal vortex
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anyways graia iag is the shit

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more ppl should use it

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if u see people dissing it beat them up

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destroy them

frank night
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A very thin neck is snapped

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Quiet descends

coarse birch
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Ive actually been liking agri iag on psyker

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More

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But i did use graia a bunch before

frank night
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I have a bricked aggri (:

sharp zodiac
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Only weapon I tried on psyker was revolver

royal vortex
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it shoots through ogryns

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roll an agri

sharp zodiac
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Only because I tried it on every other class

frank night
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The ONLY weapon

coarse birch
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I even have a vraks 7/agri mk 9 hh build on psyker

sharp zodiac
royal vortex
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agri shotgun on right side psyker

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would be based

sharp zodiac
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Rather just use my staff

royal vortex
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flechette with perilous combustion

spare dome
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i want lawbringer

royal vortex
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true aim for the guaranteed crit

spare dome
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horizontal shot with all the finesse bonuses

south folio
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the ranged single-target damage of psyker depresses me if i don't bring a gun

royal vortex
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it would be just like weapon specialist vet

coarse birch
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I am going to try recon on psyker too (it will suck)

south folio
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there's no hope for you

coarse birch
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Look man

royal vortex
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recon lasgun is such a conceptually awful weapon to me i hate every part of it

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i have used it once

coarse birch
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Its like the one gun

royal vortex
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after the p11? buff

coarse birch
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I havent tried

royal vortex
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and i was like

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yeah man this sucks

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i shot 100 rounds into a mutie and still had to finish it off with a psword

coarse birch
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The p13 shock trooper build was funny

royal vortex
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i kept using it like a brauto into ragers as a halfhearted suicide attempt

coarse birch
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Just actually hold m1 through the map

mental coral
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Idk why they nerfed recon las

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It’s meme status again

coarse birch
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Tbf the way they were good was a little dumb

mental coral
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I had a guy from LFG bring recon las into twins hard

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It was uh

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Interesting

copper hawk
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U shouldve killed

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And ate him

coarse birch
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Although even when they were good it was just abusing vets insane rending numbers in the tree

median steeple
royal vortex
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u could also abuse the rending

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on any other automatic

copper hawk
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Haiii bestie haaaaai

coarse birch
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Well rending + shock trooper

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For just

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Infinite ammo

mental coral
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I was like “you bringing recon las? I heard from Reddit and vet chat (lie) that it’s trash (truth)” and he was like “ah yeah I don’t listen to those guys they don’t have a clue”

spare dome
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yea i did not care for their 'strong' iteration

mental coral
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And yeah I had a few runs of orthus hard with a recon las vet

spare dome
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I still find them fun

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stop using them as IAGs and realize that they're laser Shredder Autopistols

royal vortex
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i absolutely despise every recon

mental coral
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I mean the recon las feels like this games version of an SMG

spare talon
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I just had a really weird idea that is potentially broken
Yknow how ewew is very mid compared to other methods of toughness regen for zealot
What if the regen per second was lowered, but able to scale higher based on how many enemies you were near

mental coral
#

But it does fuck all which makes me sad

spare talon
mental coral
#

The autoguns need more kick and the recon needs more damage

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I feel like the autoguns besides braced auto should be like AR’s instead of laser beams

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And then the recon lasgun can be the actual long range no recoil smg thing idk

south folio
#

autoguns getting more recoil would prob be annoying

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i'd just nerf their damage directly

solid creek
#

there a good rending burn build for the recon guns but its made for sharpshooter

mental coral
#

I mean they’re autoguns that’s like the entire thing

ripe quest
mental coral
#

It would also differentiate them because having every automatic basically be a laser beam is stupid

coarse birch
#

Yeah autoguns just kinda do dummy dps

maiden path
median steeple
coarse birch
#

Maybe a little less stagger so that brautos can be the stagger ones

mental coral
#

Maybe nerf their damage a bit but I also think they should be harder to control

frank night
median steeple
#

I hope bolter gets something copium

mental coral
#

Idk apparently bolter rn is perfectly fine

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And it’s just that everything else needs to be nerfed

maiden path
#

everything else is fine the bolter sucks ass

frank night
#

the red rag to redditors seems to be draw speed

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they will go INSANE

maiden path
#

a revolver shouldnt be doing the same damage as a bolter

frank night
#

if something takes a second to pull out

median steeple
#

Such a weird thing to focus on

maiden path
#

bolter has way too good of a reload for being so shit

median steeple
#

Wha

ripe quest
mental coral
#

I never liked the bolter so can’t say much but ik the sentiment among playtesters is that the bolter is fine and it’s just that half the shit in this game are broken op

steel agate
mental coral
#

Well “playtesters” as in that one video telopots uploaded

steel agate
#

Thanks for the meme

spare dome
#

I am in camp bolber is fine

maiden path
#

the bolters slide when you pull it back is the chunkiest sound ever

spare dome
#

rebolber is still dumbo

ripe quest
#

It's pretty decent still for Ogryns it's just other weapons can get similar results and handle well at the same time

obtuse solstice
spare dome
#

i throw my knife

royal vortex
#

bolter is so comically good as a sharpshooter weapon if u can aim

frank night
#

the knife is for attempting to kill steal from me

ripe quest
median steeple
#

yeah I feel like I can only really use bolter on vet and that irks me

haughty haven
#

Don't mind if i DO

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maiden path
#

i wish i didnt hate plasma and bolter didnt suck sigh 🥹

royal vortex
#

like u just go left side and hit heads and experience the power of the boltgun

#

does not translate quite as well to zealot

median steeple
#

I love plasma and yeah I can admit it needs some tuning lmao

#

100 cleave is insane

mental coral
#

100 cleave is the funny right click tho

#

So it’s not actually 100 cleave

maiden path
#

its a plasma gun why the fuck wouldnt it have 100 cleave

royal vortex
#

u only get a measly 50 on the left click

mental coral
#

It’s only like 40 I kekw

#

oh is it 50?

#

mb

haughty haven
#

i use bolter on zealot and it's not bad

mental coral
#

It’s ONLY 50 kekw

haughty haven
#

what other gun could be used?

steel agate
#

I love making soccer ball sized blue holes in heretics thumbsup_ogryn

maiden path
ripe quest
#

Revolver, anything with Fury of the Faithful.

mental coral
#

Revolver if you are looking for anti carapace

maiden path
#

bolter sucks ass once you use a better weapon (all of them)

haughty haven
#

it's nice for dropping a crusher quick and i use heavy sword

mental coral
#

Bolter isn’t that bad

#

There’s worse options

#

Autopistol

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Agrippina shotgun

maiden path
#

???

#

autopistol FUCKS

mental coral
#

Lol what?

maiden path
obtuse solstice
#

it's usable if you run knives and use them to cancel the draw animation

ripe quest
#

Agri shotgun is fine rn

mental coral
#

Autopistol is mid

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At best

maiden path
#

i think your just STTTUPID

haughty haven
#

volver for zealot just sounds less than optimal

median steeple
#

again bolter is fine if you use it on vet

mental coral
#

Revolver is meta rn

median steeple
#

since the sharpshooter tree exists

ripe quest
#

With any finesse related thing up Agri will do more damage per shot than a Kant

median steeple
#

but everywhere else... just use any other weapon

maiden path
#

never use revoolver...

#

use da incendiary round shortgun

haughty haven
#

volver would literally just feel like gimped veteran gameplay for me

ripe quest
#

And built in Scattershot synergy you get essentially Zealot's own Plasma that is just a tad worse on Bulwarks.

haughty haven
#

there's no way in fuck you can set a volver up to use it as well as vet so id just feel stupid using it on zealot lol

maiden path
#

shovel is da coolest

#

i think i stil have a clip of me smacking a bomber mid jump with it

mental coral
#

The gun class makes guns stronger yes

#

But that applies to pretty much every weapon

#

Besides weapons that rely on armor strip of zealot

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Like flame shotgun

royal vortex
haughty haven
#

idk using heavy sword the bolter is a nice pairing with it

#

claps crushers ez and does awesome burst dps to monstrosities

spare talon
mental coral
#

Pmuch

#

Hsword revolver is what I run

haughty haven
#

eh fair enough l guess

mental coral
#

The pullout time makes it alot more versatile

spare talon
#

Which applies to both specialists, elites, crushers, maulers, etc

haughty haven
#

i yearn for the crusher pack dropping tho

frank night
haughty haven
#

and not one tapping a crusher with volver would just feel wrong

maiden path
#

ok i dont have the shovel clip

mental coral
#

2 trappers while I’m dealing with horde? Swap to revolver bang bang and suddenly they aren’t there anymore

maiden path
#

but i do have a clip of da scummiest engie sentry setup

royal vortex
mental coral
#

I think you can do 2 shot crushers if you have the right build/revolver on zealot tho

#

And you get lucky

royal vortex
#

no u can 1 shot em

#

u just gotta get creative

haughty haven
#

i can just hold lmb with bolter

royal vortex
mental coral
#

I thought 1 shot was a gimmick build tho

spare talon
#

But it's also like against crushers, you also have the mobility to safely backpetal while reloading, unlike with the bolter

mental coral
#

Like jump through bunch of hoops type of thing

royal vortex
#

seems fairly simple to me

frank night
#

and I hear three frantic cryonic rods

#

from behind me

#

and the scenery begins sprouting cutlery

south folio
#

vacuum capsule

royal vortex
#

i choose to believe the hounds have fucked hitboxes

#

because i swear to god

#

these knives should be connecting to the head more

#

70% of my pounces are me trying to shoot or knife it mid air

#

to look cool

#

and it fails

misty raven
#

I swear the dogs skin is made of kevlar

haughty haven
#

dis my heavy sword rn

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steel agate
#

Ooo very cool crit perk

spare talon
#

Most of the times I'm pounced it's because the dog leaps point blank and instead of actually lunging he just teleports on top me when I'm at a more than a 45 degree angle from where he's looking

mental coral
#

Dogs are weirdly tanky

haughty haven
royal vortex
#

i had 1 dog i couldnt see and i tried to push it on instinct

#

and he just fkin lept through a gunner

#

and its like alright if u do that

#

i can't really

#

fight it

north sedge
#

crit perks are not good on most weapons

steel agate
royal vortex
#

lil bit cheaty

vast basin
#

Y'all ever push a hound, hear the block sound, and still get pounced?

frank night
#

no i am inedible

spare talon
frank night
#

too poisonous

mental coral
#

Dogs also have melee multiplier as well

royal vortex
south folio
royal vortex
#

this is what i do to dogs normally

vast basin
#

Yeah dogs have a 3x melee multiplier

mental coral
#

Which means I tilt the fuck out when I’m trying to melee them and these fucking teammates behind me are just spraying it and pushing it away from me with like an autopistol

ripe quest
#

@royal vortex I had another build idea lately stemming off of the recent Agri Railgun stuff, No Respite Man-Stopper Agri Shotgun with Stuns, Duellist and whatever, Shroudfield, and BP crit CDR.

spare talon
mental coral
spare talon
south folio
#

their hp was along the lines of 1.8k

spare talon
#

Yet

royal vortex
#

destroy the mutants

frank night
ripe quest
#

Yeah dude it's Zealot's Plasma Gun I'm telling you

royal vortex
#

what is this

south folio
# frank night

how long did it take you to find the videeo and crop it

royal vortex
#

oh

ripe quest
#

You only need like, a whole build for it but it's goated trust me

frank night
south folio
royal vortex
#

that was an accident

south folio
royal vortex
#

i have to wear glasses

frank night
royal vortex
#

i am visually impaired

south folio
mental coral
#

Are you?

royal vortex
#

u cant hold me at fault

north sedge
spare talon
mental coral
royal vortex
mental coral
#

This is why I run recon las into my hard mode twins nowadays

spare talon
#

I saw an opportunity and i took it lmao

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

I'

frank night
#

I'

south folio
#

I'

nimble fiber
#

I'

ripe quest
#

The mafia had to prevent me from continuing.

spare talon
royal vortex
#

look at this

#

DELETE trappers

south folio
ripe quest
south folio
#

give knife brutal momentum

royal vortex
#

now that actual human ppl are here

#

witness

south folio
#

who me

spare talon
north sedge
#

knife should get volatile

royal vortex
#

TWO

#

ROLLBACKED

#

DODGES

south folio
#

wow josho how did you refresh your dodges so quickly

#

i didnt know dodges refreshed in increments of 1

median steeple
#

Criminal

royal vortex
#

i got fkin assassinated by the servers

ripe quest
vast basin
#

Nah knife should get hammerblow

ripe quest
#

New patch footage right there

spare talon
south folio
royal vortex
#

crab somehow has it fkin worse than i do

#

which is impressive

#

he has shit like his stamina getting refunded while sprinting/using deadshot

#

because the game is like no u didnt spend it

frank night
royal vortex
#

SHUT UP

#

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

#

LEAVE

frank night
#

ur still holding out on the infinite ammo ogryn build

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

u will never get it

#

its my secret

spare talon
south folio
#

so true

coarse birch
#

Thats the only way they can stop you josho

south folio
#

you just stick to the boss

ripe quest
#

We are in a time loop wtf

frank night
royal vortex
spare talon
royal vortex
#

hey bro

#

did u know i have the power to end u

south folio
#

owo

royal vortex
#

gets dogged half a second before the overhead slam connects to my body

frank night
#

the ai director will sometimes decide that your winrate is too high

royal vortex
#

very nice

#

i watched a dude w/o twbs try to solo clutch and get memed

#

which was funny

#

the fucked up part

#

is in that clip

#

seconds after

#

no less than 4 crushers show up

#

to hydraulic press me into the ground

spare talon
south folio
#

i've had a lot of crusher-related deaths related to getting guardbroken whenever i try to push-attack with the mk6

frank night
#

if there is no crusher

#

arco will become his own crusher

south folio
#

shut up mittins

frank night
#

four times

#

four times

ripe quest
#

I don't have the clip anymore but I had one where I got clipped by a dog's push aura right as I dodged away from a Crusher overhead and I got obliterated. Happened in like half a second.

south folio
#

hush

royal vortex
#

i do a lot of stupid shit trying to keep desperation up

south folio
#

i got pushed by a dog into a pool of fire and a chaos spawn

frank night
#

I have perished to the

south folio
#

and got IMMEDIATELY deleted

frank night
#

single poxwalker is standing in the direction I was dodging

coarse birch
#

The dog push auras are actually the most dogshit thing

royal vortex
#

thank god i can choose what to clip

ripe quest
#

Sometimes the most impact a dog has is that push aura Doomguy_scream

royal vortex
#

and what to censor

spare talon
royal vortex
#

ppl don't see me mis-time the stamina regen so that i don't push attack and instead fumble with a block for half a second before doing an l1 in defeat

south folio
#

i don't mind getting pushed but it shouldn't make me completely inactionable

spare talon
#

You should really hear what goes into my mic the moment my stamina breaks when parrying
It's just keymashing F for my dash

south folio
#

like why can i not swing or dodge after getting bumped by a dog >:(

south folio
royal vortex
#

all the stuff that takes away player action or fkin cancels ur ult

#

should die

south folio
#

my heart has been steeled by a million overheads and I just accept my death

royal vortex
#

if im not getting disabled or guardbroken u shouldnt be allowed to make me not play the game

#

full stop

south folio
#

getting pushed by a dog into fire and dying before you become actionable again :)

spare talon
steel agate
#

Stun

royal vortex
#

theres still shit that just makes u not do stuff

steel agate
#

Like what happens when u get hit

royal vortex
#

like how it used to be that if u existed on the same ledge as a mutie jumping up

mental coral
#

I missed old fire

royal vortex
#

he would knock u back

mental coral
#

New fire is so baby

royal vortex
#

and remove ur ability to do ANYTHING

mental coral
#

I can literally run through a bomber nade and just not care

spare talon
south folio
#

being able to run through bomber nades is a good thing

steel agate
#

Valid

south folio
#

they're still a threat when there's ground fire with other threats around

spare talon
#

Also iirc gunners staggering you before your toughness is broken is a bug right

south folio
#

they just aren't overwhelmingly a threat even by their own

spare talon
royal vortex
#

the fucked thing is it disabling toughness regen

#

which means standing in fire is the fkin DEVIL

mental coral
#

I mean I just feel like it’s a non existent threat

royal vortex
#

it was absolutely cancer in its first implementation

mental coral
#

I literally ran through a nade while killing through a horde and I came out the other side completely unscathed

south folio
#

better than it being something that just prevents you frrom moving ahead because a lone bomber decided to spawn in a narrow corridor

coarse birch
#

First rework fire was a little cringe although i think people overreacted a bit

south folio
#

and if it's just a bomber and a horde, then yeah that's not a particularly mixed threat

#

it's still something you don't want to stand in with more pronounced threats around

blazing fossil
#

3 Poxwalkers spawning behind me thru a door are my biggest threat

#

“Oh hi”

#

Main reason I don’t play vet more

north sedge
#

just play shout vet and dont care about such things

mental coral
#

They should add some threat that attacks hp directly, and I mean like gradual hp reduction akin to corruption but as it’s primary dmg source not “oops I ate a mauler overhead”

viral hare
#

main question is how would they do that without it being super annoying or barely a threat

north sedge
#

pox walkers

#

dogs too

#

but it's pretty minor

#

unless you just walk into pox walkers and not dodge or anything i guess

mental coral
#

Maybe something like the sirens

south folio
#

i'd be fine with corruption being something that more enemies inflicted

#

and in larger quantities

#

i think it's nice that toughness completely blocks off most melee damage as long as you're topped off

#

since i want to hit trade and it's fun to do that without being irrevocably punished as long as I'm careful

mental coral
#

How high up the totem pole are plague bearers

viral hare
#

On a related note Corruption from enemies feels like an unneeded mechanic in general, I don’t really get into many scenarios where the buildup is bad enough to be concerned about

mental coral
#

Cuz like we have all this lore around enemies whose mere presence kills people cuz of the pestilence

#

But we don’t have anything like that

haughty haven
#

MAN I DIE ALOT ON MY ZEALOT

viral hare
#

Except when a dog jumps on me and my team forgets I exist for 40 seconds

south folio
#

yeah corruption is pretty nothingburgers unless you're an until death zealot that's been trapped with 20 poxwalkers around you

mental coral
#

And I don’t mean like “you eat shit the moment you are close” except for daemonhosts

#

But yeah maybe something like the siren from kf2

#

So when you get close they start an animation and let out a scream that directly hurts the soul or wte

viral hare
#

New special that throws gas nades that apply corruption or something of the like would maybe be cool

mental coral
#

But also make it so it isn’t annoying as shit like a bonbon with the puke trails

ripe quest
south folio
#

at least in kf2 you can also regenerate your hp

south folio
ripe quest
#

Like if I dodge into it it takes 2 and I can just rush them or smth

south folio
#

that'd be interesting

mental coral
#

Maybe it can be a buffer type enemy as well

viral hare
#

What if getting downed kept your existing corruption in addition to a wound? It would make wounds more viable to run instead of stats

mental coral
#

Like make it a special melee enemy that does corruption damage when close but also buffs nearby enemies

coral smelt
#

how do you horde with the combat axe

mental coral
#

And make it slow instead of what we have for specials which are basically “run you down or be annoying as shit halfway across the map”

south folio
#

i'd prob at least make getting more wounds interact with corruption by default, if corruption does become more plentiful

coarse pebble
#

What's the recommended loadout for zealot?

south folio
viral hare
#

Brumentum is noice for so many zealot weapons

mental coral
#

BM is just strong in general

south folio
#

brutal momentum for duelling swords when

coral smelt
#

i have bm do i just spam lights?

coarse birch
#

Arco we cannot let you cook

south folio
#

if you don't know what brutal momentum does, be aware that the description for it is really bad

viral hare
#

adding that to my list of blessings I want on other weapons with soulblaze on purg

south folio
#

blazing spirit recon lasgun when

south folio
royal vortex
#

if they wont let us share guns between characters

south folio
#

😔

coral smelt
#

headshot ignore hitmass what else

south folio
#

instead of the perk slot on weapons, we could have class-specific "blessings" that are available on all melee weapons or something of that sort

royal vortex
#

that would be cool

south folio
#

so deflector takes up a perk slot and can be slapped onto all psyker melee weapons

fleet zealot
royal vortex
#

i dont particularly like the perk system as it stands rn

south folio
#

yeah it's boring and you have to do math

mental coral
#

Deflector should be built in for all force swords smh

royal vortex
#

it's too easy to get the wrong option and just have a flat out worse version of a weapon

south folio
#

and they're not interactive or fun

#

just simple numerical boosts

royal vortex
#

yea

south folio
#

i hope that's what the blessing and perk leaks are all about

royal vortex
#

and if u removed perks u can kinda tune a weapon more precisely

south folio
#

at least from what exhillious remarked about, some things were marked as blessings and perks

royal vortex
#

tyr has posted a bit about it too

#

crab as well really

coral smelt
#

also is caxe good with piety?

south folio
#

so my hope is that the current iteration of perks is getting killed off for what I mentioned

#

oh shit really?

#

where

royal vortex
#

well idk if crab posted here

#

but tyr said some stuff

south folio
#

OwO

royal vortex
spare dome
#

perks and blessings will be combined into blerks

royal vortex
#

im not going to get my hopes up

#

to any serious degree

#

cuz its fs and theyre slow

south folio
#

yeah it's all datamined stuff and subject to change

#

and could be stuff that they're throwing at the whiteboard and may not come to fruition

#

but gimme that shit

royal vortex
#

it does kind of provide a rough idea

#

we had the same thing with the class rework

south folio
royal vortex
#

where some of the frameworks for subclasses were in the game

#

cuz they couldnt do the actual class system they wanted

south folio
#

yeah and presumably the perk/blessing system was also just a patchwork thing to get the game out

royal vortex
#

so u had a spare shout vet ult, some concepts for throwing knives, etc

royal vortex
south folio
#

man having essentially 4 blessings on a weapon would be pretty sweet

royal vortex
#

wishful thinking 😔

#

i dont really expect perks to go tbf

mental coral
#

Just give me a way to unlock the weapon

#

Make it cost 10k diamantine

royal vortex
#

since they existed in previous tide games and idk how much fs will break from the formula

mental coral
#

And boom diamantine surplus gone

royal vortex
#

but like

south folio
#

might depend on how many interesting things that they can come up for the new "perks" perhaps

royal vortex
#

u could say the same thing about the old 6x3 talent system

#

and that would be incorrect

south folio
#

skill tree babeeee

ripe quest
#

@royal vortex Gonna test out the railgun build

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royal vortex
#

godspeed

south folio
#

m*nstopper

royal vortex
#

we love the t2 shotgun blessings in this household

#

flechette/manstopper lawbringer with weapon specialist on vet

#

thats som eshit

coral smelt
#

is caxe good with piety?

royal vortex
#

not really

#

performs better with the other 2 keystones

#

can't really abuse the cleave for crit cdr as well as like a chainsword or evis since ur not really cleavin that many guys per swing even with bm

ripe quest
#

We ball

royal vortex
#

i spent 30k plasteel

#

on a level 12 zealot

ripe quest
#

Flechette sucks balls though imo

#

You need Man-Stopper Flechette to make it good and there are other cool blessings

#

Probs easier to do on Vet tbf

north sedge
#

it works for me, stop being such a hater omg!

frank night
#

bake the dough

ripe quest
#

Dough I will bake you

north sedge
#

time to make a youtube video!

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

weapon specialist lets u transcend the need for crit chance

#

and u can reload for free on swap

#

+the reload talents working on special shell loading now

#

so its like

#

its p funny on vet

#

i copied telopots build with krak/shovel/lawbringer and it was fun

nimble fiber
north sedge
south folio
north sedge
#

jesus arco keep it in your pants

south folio
#

OwO

#

i'll keep you in the oven

frank night
south folio
#

anyways i think that the search function on discord should be removed

north sedge
#

i mean the ui tried to on mobile

frank night
ember yew
haughty haven
#

jesus christ the bugs with this god damn game lol

#

i just went from 190 to 0 toughness in one shot from a ADS

south folio
#

mittins has agreed with me 13 times of course

nimble fiber
#

lol

north sedge
#

🤔

nimble fiber
#

very coolthumbsup_ogryn

north sedge
#

how is losing toughness a bug

fleet zealot
haughty haven
#

because it was one bullet from a flak shooter

royal vortex
#

choke

fleet zealot
#

if it was a stalker, they do bonus toughness damage

south folio
royal vortex
#

my lowest moment

south folio
#

top 10 freudian slips of all time

fleet zealot
#

but 190 to 0 sounds like more than one thing was shooting/hitting you you

south folio
#

you also made the critical mistake of letting mittins witness that moment

royal vortex
#

mittins has witnessed worse at this point but he is bound by contract not to speak of it

coral smelt
#

so what does the special attack on caxe do? the stagger doesnt seem very good

royal vortex
#

i have learned

south folio
#

just a reliable stagger yeah

fleet zealot
#

oh special

#

it's stagger

#

but on rashad, the push attack is more reliable stagger imo

#

antax push attack is the damage cleave

#

im legally blind so ignore my mistakes

south folio
royal vortex
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frog!!!

ripe quest
haughty haven
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it's happened like 10 times in the last week lol i'll take like one hit that isn't a sniper and just die

ripe quest
haughty haven
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some weird ass latency bs

ripe quest
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Needs to be a weakspot hit regardless iirc

frank night
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if I leak the secret documents I will be dragged into dms and stabbed with a ricin needle

nimble fiber
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what if u leak it in secretwhatthefuck_heresy

frank night
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ppl who post in zealot chat in darktide discord do not have the subtlety to not immediately snitch on me

fleet zealot
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ricin needle

nimble fiber
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aight bet

jolly scaffold
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78% reloadspeed, literally unplayable

naive star
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Whats the Eviscerator Mk II moveset for hordeclear?

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I keep swinging it semirandomly

spare dome
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Mash lights

cinder wedge
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yeah, its not complicated