zealot-class

[ripe quest]

I can like, dm you the file so you can look at them

They're big files (now)

They used to not be

[fleet zealot]

oh no thanks

i thought there would be like

screenshots

xd

[polar nexus]

they added that during the first year of vt2?

because we'll probably get mechanical and content stuff before

[ripe quest]

There's easily like 20 that are essentially damage perk but on a proc condition

[north sedge]

No chaos wastes was the last big update...a couple years ago?

[ripe quest]

It came out 3 years after the release, was 2021

[polar nexus]

yeah that sounds like a big patch

they may just lay the groundwork in the upcoming patches

[north sedge]

It was basically a free expansion

[cerulean moth]

I summmon a full scale contant patch

NOW

feetshark update my game

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-no-nope-nah-never-gif-16208499

[ripe quest]

I'm not an expert on it but it does also seem like some of these new blessings are setup like perks, which may be why Crab and Tyr think it's a blessing overhaul. A lot of them have 6 tiers instead of 4 too.

[polar nexus]

LOL

[cerulean moth]

what we LOLing about

[polar nexus]

6 tiers blessings? Red weapons??

[ripe quest]

Only thing I can really think of is that they're doing something adjacent to the Winds of Magic crafting.

[polar nexus]

every tweet has UPDATE

[cerulean moth]

oh lol

yeah everyone wants one haha

[spare talon]

one of them says 2h sword too

[ripe quest]

I said they were setup like perks, not just blessings. We don't know exactly what that means.

If it were red item stuff I doubt they would add this many blessings

[polar nexus]

i might not have understood what you meant by setup like perks

[north sedge]

Perks like 25% to flak

[opaque island]

its gonna be prestige buffs, you get x amount of levels over 30 and you can get these buffs that are minor but if you level enough do add up to a good difference i.e reward long play time

borderlands legend style is the first thing that comes to mind

[north sedge]

🤔

[polar nexus]

my mate with a lvl > 2300 does not need more buffs

[ripe quest]

I'm gonna be real I do not think that would bode well for the future of this game

Even Fatshark would step in on that

[south folio]

nah i need more stats

gobble gobble

[north sedge]

I don't know if your pc could handle it

[sharp crow]

Any pious karkers need help with Just a Flesh Wound?

[ripe quest]

Yeah uhhhh I'll take a 10% chance to get a 150% damage boost for 5 seconds

[ripe quest]

We have a https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075 LFG channel for stuff like that. Just make sure you specify that you're running a penance.

[south folio]

owo

[ripe quest]

I wish I were kidding arco

[south folio]

OwO?

[south folio]

ayo what the fuck

[sharp crow]

Thanks!

[south folio]

on hit?

[ripe quest]

Obvious damage control n whatnot it's subject to change.

mhm

Each hit, 10% chance

There's one for each armor type specifically, and a 150% impact increase

That one I put specified heavy attacks, there's one for lights that are a 17.5% proc chance, same damage increase

If this is a blessing rework, which doesn't sound out of the question, my assumption is that the blessing/perk whatevers tie their tier to the weapon rarity.

Then instead of distinct slots it's just 4 of anything and you mix and match.

Or maybe less, who knows.

These are just templates, so there's a very solid chance it won't be a 150% damage buff.

There are also complex ones, stuff that debuffs and stuff that's active under a more dynamic proc condition. Saw one that was a power increase if you're at max Toughness.

Like this, please yes this is cool give glass cannon defensive blessings

[south folio]

huh that is pretty neat

[ripe quest]

I distinctly remember seeing a on push burn blessing + a burning enemies give toughness regen one but I cannot find it

I pray I didn't dream that

[south folio]

owo

[timber ether]

two in one shop.... both with a 75 modifier

you can't make this up

i already have 10 of these +3 staminas but cmon

[bleak sierra]

When going for a one shot thunder hammer build, what stats do I wanna prioritize on the hammer?

[swift venture]

Damage, Penetration, First Target

[bleak sierra]

Ty ty

[frozen field]

Does Inebriate Poise have any cooldowns on gaining stacks?

[swift venture]

Defences is your dump stat tbh, don't want it super low because it loses you sprint, push and dodge efficiency

[spare talon]

"no, brunt, damage is not a dump stat"

[ripe quest]

@south folio found it

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-mayo-patrick-mayo-gif-22996351

[south folio]

now gimme that but as blue fire

[ripe quest]

Best I can do is guaranteed crit after a parry and reload unwielded guns

[south folio]

OWO

now that's the good stuff for the dclaw

[ornate bone]

Burn on push?

Ayo, we getting the unchained push again

Or was it the battle wizard?

[ripe quest]

Also this?

Not sure how this would go

[spare talon]

say bye to doggy, he's heading out

[south folio]

hmmm which weapon would that be reasonable for

maybe dclaw again

[ripe quest]

Illisi, Ironhelm, maybe Evis

[south folio]

but that's instant anyways

[ripe quest]

Powersword

[spare talon]

what buff is it proccing?

[south folio]

potentially would be bonkers unless they plan on adding a cooldown to it

[spare talon]

weapon reload?

[south folio]

if nothing else, they seem to be throwing stuff at the whiteboard which is looking good

[ripe quest]

I assume the title of the buff is accurate.

[frozen field]

Does Inebriate Poise have any cooldowns on gaining stacks?

[ripe quest]

[spare talon]

i hope some of these are just flat out new blessings instead of exclusively that chaos wastes speculation

[north sedge]

Swift slaying!

[south folio]

hmm smite

is that brain burst or smite smite

or is smite a term that's generally used

[ripe quest]

I don't think so no.

[spare talon]

ive basically build all the weapons i care about so this stockpile just keeps growing

[south folio]

hmmmmmm

[north sedge]

Don't believe so

[frozen field]

Thanks for the answers

[ripe quest]

They have 6 tiers and some of them are listed as perks and blessings so idk anymore.

[spare talon]

sorry didnt see it
i dont believe so, as long as you dodge an attack that would otherwise hit you, you get momentum stacks for it

very very good, basically mandatory for it

[frozen field]

That's cool. Cheers for that.

[spare talon]

oh shit
i was pulling up an old clip that showed inebriates really well in actual gameplay and its even better than i thought

i thought it was 3 stacks for every dodge that evades an attack

i was wrong

it is every attack that has been dodged

idk how i never noticed this

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKwVFWwA_x8

zealot chat

listen 2 this...

its badass

[spare talon]

so if you dodge once and 2 enemies were swinging at you, thats 6 stacks

[north sedge]

Yup

[spare talon]

literal gamechanger for momentum, even more than i originally though

[jaunty karma]

holy you're basically indestructible

[spare talon]

thats actually from a few months ago, i dont even used the crusher anymore lol

oh shit well i guess i do now cuz i was looking at my build for it after posting that
and just loaded into a mission lol

lets see if i still can play the game without a parry in my back pocket lmao

[north sedge]

It's why i get so annoyed when people don't take that node

[spare talon]

OH FUCK YES I MISSED BEING ABLE TO SEND CRUSHERS FLYING

[sharp haven]

so a 346 score crusher showed up but I don't hate it? comparing it w my current crusher I'm wondering if it's worth

[north sedge]

You'd need to change thunderstrike to hammerblow, block to dmg of your choice, could end up being better overall

[spare talon]

man i really wish i could get toughness on dodge with crusher, but my tree just doesnt line up for that

[north sedge]

Why not

[spare talon]

just dont go down that route

[ripe quest]

Gonna be real, never really thought about that interaction and I still thought it was mandatory. Guess it makes sense due to the complete lack of a cooldown.

[maiden path]

https://hounskull.bandcamp.com/album/galactilord

chat

listen to this

these guys are badasss

[spare talon]

i could sacrifice shield of contempt and dr on dodge, but i feel like thats my main way of staying alive in more dangerous situations, but just being able to shrug off a fucked situation with only like 20 hp damage

[maiden path]

i cant find much of their stuff on youtube

so I can only find their full albums on bandcamp

the audio quality isnt great but how good it sounds regardless makes up for that

[north sedge]

With crusher i find i have to sometimes let stuff attack me to get stacks up, it's such a safe weapon

Then again i also don't use any dr besides Benediction

[maiden path]

i think the audio quality is purposeful

[spare talon]

i regretably am a dr fiend

[north sedge]

Unbecome one!

[spare talon]

SoC is just too good to give upfor the 2 points it takes, since im also always taking twbs

[north sedge]

Only time I've run soc was pathing to corruption aura for orthus, you can survive without

[spare talon]

but also you made a good point with this
it would be much more rare to get tough on dodge with the mf crusher lmao

[lilac bone]

I definitely fully appreciate the rashad enthusiasts here now. Finally rolled up a few decent bases -- and -- a second go round with the rashad -- it's not just good, it's very good.

[lethal totem]

playing too much vet has given me columnus brainrot

[lilac bone]

It's good. I think for aggressive zealot brauto is a bit better.

[lethal totem]

I'm running marksmans focus and executioner's stance

brauto is probably better but I feel like I'm missing a lot of shots with it

[north sedge]

I'd still rather take toughness gen over soc

[lilac bone]

For a vet I think columnus iag is prolley a better choice -- build dependent. Aiming is nice.

[spare talon]

i just swapped them out for second wind and am heading into the auric maelstrom to see how it serves me

[ripe quest]

I'm a Barkskin enjoyer so I always grab it if it's available.

[lilac bone]

Brauto is nice for closing distance and dealing with berserker waves. And aggressive flanking. And hordes.

[ripe quest]

Please don't use a Brauto for horde clear

[lilac bone]

Well, which brauto?

[ripe quest]

Any of them.

[ornate bone]

Smackdown to a blessing of your preference and unyielding to maniac if you can't one-shot the specialists

[lilac bone]

Gaia is very good and quick. And the ammo is usually not a problem.

It works.

[lethal totem]

I neve have ammo problems with any auto

and I have it out for like 80% of the run

[ripe quest]

And yet it's comparatively not great for horde clear. Why would you ever use it like that

[lethal totem]

its fun

[spare dome]

Graia is so ammo generous

also it go brrrr real fast

[ripe quest]

I guess if you're not super concerned about performance it's whatever.

Out of all three I think Agri might have the best performance due to the highest cleave.

None are particularly great for it though.

[sharp haven]

so I have this and T4 slaughterer - thinking crit damage to flak and rev it up to T4 slaughterer?

[lethal totem]

I mean i'm not even performance focused but my scoreboard for vet is always good

[lilac bone]

My thought on it is pretty much that you can close and kill the horde melee, kill it with a brauto, or both. For reaching out and protecting a teammate who isn't paying attention -- horde brauto.

[spare talon]

yeah i certainly am much better with a dclaw lmao

or am still just used to it considering how much ive played with it the last few months

[lilac bone]

If you like it and you play well with it -- enjoy the hell out of it!

[spare talon]

but i used to be based and crusher-pilled

ive lost the special touch

too much time playing sekiro with chaos spawns

[bitter anvil]

I like crusher

Because I hate crusher

[spare talon]

simple as

[bitter anvil]

I use crusher to kill crusher

[split canyon]

Sour Milk Store rolls.
Anything worth the coins?

[lethal totem]

the flamer is really nice

[polar nexus]

yeah my ogryn always has the highest score, then it's my vet...

i need to bring out spam chastise with my zealot...

[bitter anvil]

Crits chastise is fun

[ripe quest]

Pretty much yeah. Either Slaught or Headtaker for the blessing.

[ripe quest]

At best the Flamer but it'll be 4/5 at best.

I wouldn't spend the coins.

[split canyon]

What about the heavy sword? I can put the Flak + Maniac on it

[dense field]

Need Headtaker

It needs Headtaker instead of wrath

[cerulean moth]

is dis good or is wrath bad on this one

[bitter anvil]

Wrath is nice

[sharp haven]

feels amazing

[bitter anvil]

I would use on my XIIIg chainsword

[ripe quest]

Wrath or Savage. Neither are BiS on the XV but that's solid outside of the +Stamina perk.

[cerulean moth]

what would be bis for the xv?

[ember yew]

shred - rampage, flak + maniac

for all arounder

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hedgehog-mrfresh-cat-feeder-mr-fresh-gif-6553553018433258079

[lilac bone]

Is that kitty nice?

[bleak apex]

zealot watching ogryn eat his rashuns

[ripe quest]

There really isn't one. Shred, Bloodthirsty, SS/Wrath, some people even like Momentum.

Just avoid Perfect Strike, Rev it Up, and Bloodletter.

[cerulean moth]

ignore rev it up

impossible

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-fancy-rat-storm-sniff-gif-13223124

[steel agate]

It make me go fast, what do u mean it not good?

damage? Na

SPEEEED

[stiff timber]

so, shield of contempt cooldown is actually per person ?

[ember yew]

The talent can only proc once at a time. So if it has been proc'ed either by Zealot or by an ally in coherency, it grants its damage reduction only to the player who triggered it before it goes on cooldown for 10s; stacks multiplicatively with other damage reduction buffs.

[stiff timber]

hm, i've seen the opposite of that on reddit/forum

not sure who's right or wrong now

[ember yew]

reddit is the best source for memes

but not actual information

[steel agate]

^

[ember yew]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235

[steel agate]

I’d rather trust this discord than Reddit imo, u can get real time dialogue

Instead of waiting dial up style for an answer

[ember yew]

lol

never expected a spam bot in zealot chat

at least its not EGS NITRO FREE PRESS HERE

[stiff timber]

aight that suck

[steel agate]

I got this

[cerulean moth]

wtf is this linkden?

[stiff timber]

guess i remove it again now

[steel agate]

<@&735928989146939404> yo we got a SCAM

[ember yew]

kill it with fire

[steel agate]

Ty in advance whichever warden claims this one’s head/message

[ember yew]

bang

https://tenor.com/view/krieg-warhammer40000-gif-20755773

[steel agate]

Dope, and just for good measure thank u again warden

[stiff timber]

Replenishes 2.5% of maximum toughness per second if at least 3 enemies are within a 5m radius around Zealot. Proximity check ignores map geometry. Is inactive while being disabled by Pox Hound, Trapper, Mutant, Daemonhost, Chaos Spawn, or Beast of Nurgle. Does not interact with coherency toughness regeneration.

[steel agate]

Y’all mfs don’t get thanked enough

[stiff timber]

does this means the talent can regen even if toughness broken

or not*

probably not..

[ember yew]

it will enable bonus regen in melee combat

because when you are in melee with enemies

your toughness does not regen via normal way

[stiff timber]

no i mean when your toughness broken, u dont regen it for a moment right

normally

does the talent let u regen still

[ripe quest]

If you're in melee combat coherency regen will stall. There's a whole system it hinges on.

[ripe quest]

I'll check.

[stiff timber]

if it still regen even if broken

then i'd say worth it

probably not tho

[north sedge]

Ewew?

[ember yew]

ye

[ripe quest]

It'll just regen normally.

No delay when toughness is broken, like with other sources.

[stiff timber]

oh what

[north sedge]

Should always be on when near enemies, used to be busted, now is ok

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/topo-war-magic-mouse-gif-13518929

WAAAAR

[stiff timber]

thats actually great

if it keeps regen even if toughness broken, that's probably lot of value

[ripe quest]

It's ok. I think it's actually just about the same benefit as running 3x TRS on curios but with a different proc condition.

rn the general opinion here is that Second Wind is extremely potent, Vicious Offering, Fury of the Faithful, and Chorus are impactful, everything else is mostly passive.

Zealot has a lot of DR and TDR sources as well.

[stiff timber]

i thought second wind have internal cooldown of 3s or something

[north sedge]

Mostly just take ewew if you're pathing that way anyway

[cerulean moth]

There should be a talent where you crease an enemies Jordans

[ripe quest]

Second Wind is a .5 second cooldown.

[north sedge]

That's when you chastise into someone but don't take a swing

[stiff timber]

hm yeah it seems it regen right away without any delay

sounds good

[cerulean moth]

Your Jordan’s are FAKE (toughness break sound effect)

[north sedge]

It's ok, second wind is much stronger

[cerulean moth]

Sometimes I wish they added more nodes to chastise the wicked but that ult is so stacked already

Imagine if it gave stamina back 🔥✍️🔥

[spare talon]

i think it would be good if it had a perk where when you used it the mission autocompleted with 10,000 plasteel awarded

[north sedge]

It is funny to me that chastise does a million things but most other skills on any class have so many nodes

[ripe quest]

I genuinely hope they nuke the armor downgrade.

At least for ranged weapons.

[native cargo]

zealots when they drink the unopened bottles in the traitor curse mission

[north sedge]

Like vet shout is funny because it's literally just knockback without upgrades

[spare talon]

most people dont even know its there tho tbh

[ripe quest]

Yeah but for the people that even know it exists they can nuke Crushers with literally any ranged weapon

mmm yes I'd like a patrol wipe with a mmmmmmmmm laspistol Mk II

Flamer? Yeah y'know it only just removes any non-boss enemy within 23 meters.

[royal vortex]

chastise in general gets away with having way more shit attached to the baseline ult than any other in the game

one of my big minor annoyances when they showed off the wip zealot tree was they didn't like properly change some of the crazy shit u get for free into upgrades which felt p ???? to me

[north sedge]

But don't forget, you're throwing if you take it into aurics

[royal vortex]

lmao

[north sedge]

Fuck i wish i remember who said that, lol

[stiff timber]

u guys use 3 toughness/health or mix

[north sedge]

3 toughness

[thorn flicker]

what is health?

[ember yew]

i hope not, i dont want this game to be like Vermintide 2, where's only a small fraction of weapons are viable at max difficulty

[ripe quest]

3x Toughness in solos, I sometimes run 2x Tough 1x Health in pubs.

[ember yew]

Armor downgrade allows flexible ranged slot at least

[ripe quest]

?? Why would you pin that on the armor downgrade? Why not just expect Fatshark to actually balance their game?

[royal vortex]

if u remove the armor strip on chastise u dont actually change the viability of most weapons

[ember yew]

Fatshark to actually balance their game
I've been with Fatshark since Vermintide 1

[royal vortex]

the game has way more options that deal acceptable carapace damage as far as melees go

[ember yew]

i dont believe in that

anymore

[ripe quest]

So far with the playtesters along with Fatshark being accepting of it they've been pretty decent with it.

[royal vortex]

i think the general problem is there isn't quite enough armor penetrating ranged weapons

like u get left with 2 guns i think for zealot outside of stupid stuff like a crit iag

[north sedge]

I have no issues with armor (because I only play weapons that can deal with it)

[royal vortex]

and the solution is to just release the melta

Now.

[ripe quest]

For a bit there were a good amount of weapons that were just, worse in general. Currently for Zealot you only avoid select variants because they're "just a tad worse than others" and like, Taxe which can be built to be at least viable.

[ember yew]

where's my plasma pistol

we got plasma gun, we need pistol

[ripe quest]

Yeah I do think this should be addressed. I like what Crab proposed which was to just absolutely focus Ogryn enemies into singular durable enemies that don't spawn in clumps like they do rn.

[ember yew]

Veterans also can get 50+% passive rending on two talents alone

[ripe quest]

It would make it easier for Fatshark to balance whether or not a weapon is good for them.

[ember yew]

so unless that nerfed too, i dont see Chastice losing armor downgrade

[royal vortex]

rending being on the talent tree is one of the biggest fuckups fs has made

and that absolutely needs to go

[ripe quest]

Yeah that and like, Uncanny.

So dumb

[royal vortex]

beyond the gameplay warping effects it also just flat out removes weapon identity

[ornate bone]

I love onslaught making me kill a crusher in half a magazine I love onslaught making me kill a crusher in half a magazine I love onslaught making me kill a crusher in half a magazine I love onslaught making me kill a crusher in half a magazine I love onslaught making me kill a crusher in half a magazine

[royal vortex]

like p13 recon that you fire into everything

is not an interesting gun

i dont like recon at all but the only appeal is that u can make a shitty weapon feel less shitty to use it isnt like an interesting interaction or mechanic

[royal vortex]

step 1 is to remove all the god awful interactions where your weapon determines DOT damage

it's not intuitive and it completely changes how you use the blessing and DOTs

[ornate bone]

mood

it's not interesting, it just forces some nonsense interactions

[royal vortex]

dude i could not believe people were mad when they made slaught not stack on dot kills

[ornate bone]

"hitting this guy will make him bleed, hitting this other guy in the head will make the first guy bleed harder"

???????

[royal vortex]

because they didn't wanna lose the AB + wildfire build where you would just stand still

shriek at 6 charges once

and it would kill an infinite number of horde enemies

this isn't even fun

[polar nexus]

heavy infantry moment

no crusher was safe

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

the SHOVELS

[steel agate]

Idk bout u but I enjoyed my last flame sprinkler run

[polar nexus]

boss? 10s max

we aggroed a dh by accident, he as dead before the lift was finished lmao

[ripe quest]

There's a lot of stuff that's super intertwined with trees and other weapons rn. Rending is super guilty of it, I think even bleed is kinda. My personal opinion on weapon balance is that you should be balancing only the specific weapon, needing to tweak talents just because of one outlier weapon is dumb imo. Ogryn has it with the bleed talent. Smth like Bloodletter could be an entirely different debuff so it can actually be viable without making Scourge or bleed knife different.

It's also kinda tied with why I think +power blessings suck balls for weapon balance but knowing Fatshark's philosophy on balance rn I don't think it could happen.

[north sedge]

Get rid of all blessings, except adhesive charge which every weapon now gets, everyone gets stuck to boss and eventually rolls up into giant katamari ball

[ripe quest]

Like, easiest with Rending, there's no way Fatshark can make rending on talents balanced. It'll be lopsided with certain weapons and if you nerf the weapon, that weapon becomes reliant on it. Nerf the talent and now that talent is only used on that weapon.

[royal vortex]

u shouldnt be nerfing the rending talents u should be outright removing them

[ripe quest]

Exactly

Stuff like that is such a balancing anomaly that the effort required to balance it isn't worth it

[royal vortex]

yea

ogryn bleed in particular is really comical

because it doesn't work on target capped weapons that well because it only bleeds if u deal damage now

so clubs get shafted super hard

[ripe quest]

The real experience, my Dclaw getting jammed into a Mauler and I get mauled™️

[cerulean moth]

Nerf reapers

[royal vortex]

i feel like bleed on ogryn would work better if it was a method to do something else

[cerulean moth]

They hurt

[royal vortex]

rather than like

the end goal is a shit ton of free damage

and DR if u take delight in destruction

[cerulean moth]

Tbh the only enemy I want them to add is the tox bomber

[royal vortex]

in general i feel if u want DoTs in the tree u need to 1. remove the cancer "i apply it for free to everything" stuff and 2. make it like actually have a gameplay interaction

where it enables a talent or u can like use up the soulblaze stacks to do smth

[cerulean moth]

Just because every special just about has a scab and pox varient

I like that

[royal vortex]

what they should do is rename it to Skullcracker and make it apply bleed on weakspot hits

[native cargo]

caught

em

[royal vortex]

this would go over very well with ogryn players

[cerulean moth]

Erm

[royal vortex]

what da hell

stay away from me

[native cargo]

how do you plea josho

[cerulean moth]

Josho spotted

Erm

Loser spotted

[royal vortex]

u have a based talent tree

u have passed the vibe check

[bitter anvil]

Execute Josho

[ripe quest]

It's funny when that happens, I've seen Ferret and Darcy ingame a couple times now.

[bitter anvil]

[cerulean moth]

Darcy

[bitter anvil]

You won’t find me

My name is different

[ripe quest]

What's your ingame name

[royal vortex]

the soul ponders if i should play vraks 7 in a pub

[bitter anvil]

[Redacted]

[native cargo]

I'm usually on Ratilla

[royal vortex]

i was cookin smth

[ripe quest]

I like what the III offers but I always gravitate to the VII.

[royal vortex]

i really wanna like the v7 but it feels super bad when my aim is off

[ripe quest]

I cannot stand when I 1-2 shot something and I just burn ammo sometimes

[royal vortex]

hey u can nab t4 skullcrusher

think about that

the stickerbook

[ripe quest]

My VII looks cool too so bonus points

[bitter anvil]

I missed her

[native cargo]

Oh that is actually josho

I checked social

and saw

huh

[royal vortex]

lmao

[cerulean moth]

:aim better

[bitter anvil]

Wut

[royal vortex]

wtf was i doing taking 5% health instead of +1 stam on dclaw

who let me make my own talent tree

[native cargo]

frog band

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-silverhand-cyberpunk-keanu-reeves-tummy-hurts-tummy-ache-gif-3618038075255658526

[royal vortex]

i havent played in over a week

[bitter anvil]

I’m on burnout

[native cargo]

josho was commie maxing

which is cool on hoi 4

[ripe quest]

I burnt it but it's covered in garlic salt

[royal vortex]

its time to show pubs true gameplay (i will die to 2 bruisers that don't play the backstab noise)

[royal vortex]

i respect ur arco cosplay

[native cargo]

WHAT IN THE GYATT DAMN!?!?!

[royal vortex]

dclaw or chainsword

hm

[ripe quest]

Braindead meta or parry

[native cargo]

dragon claw

cus that sounds cool

[royal vortex]

i hate the chainsword moveset

dclaw it is

[bitter anvil]

Dick claw

[native cargo]

who up dickin dey claw

[open pollen]

Hi, my name is Detective Dick Claw. I would like to ask you a few questions.

[ripe quest]

I gotta figure out why the Mk IV Chainsword's heavies have slightly worse cleave profiles than the Mk IX Hsword's H2 and H3 and yet the Hsword performs worse with the same blessings.

[royal vortex]

3am on a thursday is not prime dt hours apparently

[copper hawk]

DetectiveHammer — Today at 03:25
Hi, my name is Detective Dick Claw. I would like to ask you a few questions.

[royal vortex]

my lobby is empty

[copper hawk]

my lobby is full

u probz just stimk.

or haz cootiez

[royal vortex]

😔

[open pollen]

For some reason, I'll wait the whole lobby time, get nobody, then as soon as the match starts it'll fill up.

[royal vortex]

im gonna true solo this

[native cargo]

wait

[royal vortex]

lets go

[native cargo]

josho was just in my lobby tf

There are people here

[royal vortex]

i joined a match

u fool

[native cargo]

liar

[open pollen]

I should jump in myself and test my new mic. I got meat drippings on it so it might not be good no more.

[bitter anvil]

Warp rat find coincidences

Josho

[ripe quest]

Versus alpha got delayed

[bitter anvil]

Oof

[native cargo]

Josho what if I join your mission and like scream really loudly

[open pollen]

Versus alpha?

[native cargo]

what then

[ripe quest]

Vermintide 2's Versus mode

[bitter anvil]

Vermintide

[open pollen]

Ah

[cerulean moth]

Verus mode

[bitter anvil]

I don’t like versus mode going be like l4d2 versus mode

[cerulean moth]

I signed up

I better get in

[open pollen]

Glad they're still working on that game. I consider it wholly different to DT

[cerulean moth]

I’m gonna finally rp as my spirit animal

A sack rat

[ember yew]

[open pollen]

Wish we had Sack Rats in DT

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/long-do-rat-long-gif-25899099

[cerulean moth]

Yeah just make them nurglings or something

Make a fart.mp4 sound when they die

Boom

[bitter anvil]

Lol

[cerulean moth]

Meds

[open pollen]

The clickin' and clackin and giggling and pittering and pattering of nurglings

[bitter anvil]

Yeah that’s make little easier to play

[cerulean moth]

Can’t really think of anything else iconic thay could be the sack rat of dt

Course you could just make it a normal person/ chaos guy

But come on. A nurgling

He’s just a wittle guy

[bitter anvil]

Nurgling nuggle nuggle nuggle

[ripe quest]

I instill confidence and holy prayer with this one.

[cerulean moth]

I bring that “brooding priest” look that the mourningstar don’t like

[bitter anvil]

RuneScape graphic

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767160217804210180/1070506159443812382/caption-4.gif

Jokes on you I get 0 input lag and 400 frames

[bitter anvil]

I means is funny look

[ripe quest]

A small price to pay for no input drops on fast attacking weapons

[steep flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981474642827051038/1196095159872528454/Download_91.mp4?ex=65b6616c&is=65a3ec6c&hm=1e66c7e96120b74d9df870769c8b75cdcdc85a5a66ed7aaa469e6a63aa556de5&

[tulip valve]

how did u get a pic of @south folio ‘s screen

[steep flame]

thats the sickest runescape character ive ever seen

[royal vortex]

u would have screamed really loudly

god bless the agri iag

[oak ermine]

somewhat blessed

[royal vortex]

genius

hello anngak

[quaint verge]

Yo Josho

[native cargo]

hell yeah

[quaint verge]

Exam in 10min. End me

[royal vortex]

u got this

i believe in u

[quaint verge]

It's a shitty spotty rapport

[royal vortex]

😔

[quaint verge]

It is what it is

[ripe quest]

I have been blessed by Arco's config

The only reason my game accepted N/A settings was because I just copy pasted Arco's config and all of a sudden my other one started working

[royal vortex]

lmao

tech priest shit

[ripe quest]

fr I'm worried that if I change anything my game will break again

[royal vortex]

this was so close to being a good gift from big e

gawd damnit

[ripe quest]

Josho I'm going beyond the realm of norm

My boss damage is Mk VII HH

[royal vortex]

what is the point of the toughness from stealthj

when the crit dr is right there

[ripe quest]

It aint about the DR

If I had the opportunity to skip SoC I would've but I cannot grab Disdain in good will and attack speed isn't doing anything

[royal vortex]

take voice of terra smh

i need to use crab's crit ironhelm build one day

[ripe quest]

Voice of Terra w/ the Mk VII HH goes hard

[royal vortex]

what u do is take voice of terra and left side blazing piety for like 4% toughness per ranged kill

with a brauto

and u just SHOOT EM

[ripe quest]

If I get a Survivalist Vet I'll run that and only shoot with a Mk IV Lasgun

Just full auto mod hold m1

[royal vortex]

i don't really vibe with the infantry lasguns

its entirely a feel thing they put out respectable numbers

i would rather just shoot anything else

[ripe quest]

They have like, so much time spent firing

Actually infinite ammo on the IV and XII

Graia Brauto gets a bit close

[royal vortex]

tbf with an iag and a surv vet rn u can also just

never stop shootin

infinite ammo in general kind of went down as an upside when they buffed the ammo pools of iags

[ripe quest]

I'm talkin horde clear and shooting during downtime

full on just shooting

constantly

[royal vortex]

are u shooting hordes with an infantry las

if the answer is no im gonna be sad

[ripe quest]

I'm taking Voice of Terra and left side BP I'm not doing anything normal wdym

[royal vortex]

o

i wish the mgiv was like

human input usable

i will not install the full auto mod

[ripe quest]

Full auto on the Ia and the IV would be nice

On the XII it's super reasonable

[royal vortex]

the mg1a the like two times ive used it has been at the limit of what im willing to put up with

[ripe quest]

I do kinda want a mod that makes full auto weapons single fire

I think having like, a single fire SAP would be goofy

ammo econ

[royal vortex]

i cant wait for the heavy autopistol variant thats burstfire

that would be cool actually

[ripe quest]

That's what I thought the X would be

[royal vortex]

instead u get this weird ass sideways recoil variant

[ripe quest]

It'll either be burst or a hand-held recon

[royal vortex]

an actual burstfire lasgun would be cool considering we don't have one

(its what the mgiv shouldve been SMH)

[ripe quest]

If they put any effort into it it could also be a charged fire or even better, a charged burst

hold longer to burst more

If they gave it the ADMs/damage to kill 1-2 Mutants in a full burst I'd take it every time.

[royal vortex]

just make it require even more clicking

[ripe quest]

It's a really fun feeling that I think only the plasma has rn

[royal vortex]

every shot does 1 damage

[ripe quest]

Full Auto mod only weapon

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

i feel like fs shouldve asked themselves "would a real human being want to use this" before they made certain guns

[ripe quest]

They should get a model trigger so they can see if the weapon would be reasonable to use for prolonged periods using that trigger.

I cannot imagine using a Mk IV lasgun with a trigger that shit would hurt my fingers after some minutes.

[royal vortex]

take hp damage if u spam the guns too much

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752917011473891418/1192838054361186396/RDT_20231031_1323326239380949685376485.gif?ex=65aa8802&is=65981302&hm=fb8b140dbec6e6d4cbf43149e8aafb9614e14fda452b15428c6e1d2635a36a81&

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[ripe quest]

Once Smite-exclusive Swift Slaying gets added

[tulip valve]

GOD ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ FORBID

[royal vortex]

he's so mad

this was his first comment on the post too he just came out swingin

[ripe quest]

tommy gun

[ornate bone]

Runescape tommy gun

Let's hear the Godfather theme in MIDI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA28W0N8Hb0

Can I get a HE'LL YEAH BRO THER

[polar nexus]

holy

you really went taxe hh

[ripe quest]

tf is going on with FS servers rn

Getting back to back 2014 errors can't play a game for more than 30 seconds

[frozen glen]

its your graphics

[ripe quest]

yeah that totally would be it

Haven't ever had issues with it

[polar nexus]

i might try that

[ripe quest]

That is going to be a very sour experience

I run dumb meme stuff for fun don't follow in my footsteps

[rocky marsh]

exhil, change both blessing?

[ripe quest]

Yeah

BM + Deci/Headtaker

[rocky marsh]

both t4?

actually why am i asking

of course

would it hurt that i don'

t have flak though?

[ripe quest]

BM doesn't need to be T4, Deci/Headtaker preferably.

[rocky marsh]

if you say yes i will attempt to roll another

plos be honest mr exhil
Also thanks dood!

[cerulean moth]

I manifest an update

Today

Tonight

✍️✍️✍️

[ripe quest]

I'd prio blessings over the perks for that Caxe.

Ideally you get a new one but it's up to how willing you are to deal with the crafting.

[rocky marsh]

what i meant was, if after i exchanged both blessings, not having the flak perk would it be a big downgrade, big enough to just roll for another caxe

[ripe quest]

mmm, you might miss a BP on it. Worst case you just run Martyrdom with it.

[rocky marsh]

bp as in break point as in damage threshold?

[ripe quest]

mhm

[rocky marsh]

gaddam, thanks alot

muah :*

[royal vortex]

play 1 match of zealot

receive the bulwark shield wall

in a hallway

with a trapper, a bomber, and 2 flamers

life is pain

[frozen glen]

maybe if u used FLAME NADES

this wouldnt be a problem

[royal vortex]

sorry that i use the blitz that requires (ninja) SKILL

[ripe quest]

That Taxe build actually handled Bulwarks pretty well

Was surprised to see how it was performing

Not the fire nades part just the Taxe specifically

I have no numbers to show for it though cuz I was in and out of the immaterium like 7 times

[royal vortex]

f

i keep getting kickback ogs who farm poxwalkers and specials

[ripe quest]

I haven't seen an Ogryn in a very long time

[royal vortex]

racism

the agri iag vet game had a shieldgryn who loved to be first in a hallway

thank god for that cleave

[polar nexus]

i used a chword 4 but i forgot to change the revolver to a brauto or iag sadly

it was ok, i was mostly pulling revives instead of killing tho

but the psyker with laspistol enjoyed the crits lol

[ripe quest]

Yeah left side BP and VoT isn't doing anything there for a Rev

Was mostly a meme idea, the same impact could come from just running like, what a Momentum or a Inspiring Barrage weapon

Probs would be even better with those blessings

[royal vortex]

i kinda wish brauto got inspiring barrage

[ripe quest]

I wish inspiring barrage actually was a team buff

[royal vortex]

but both classes that get brauto already have ways to shit out toughness for free

it can be with born leader

[polar nexus]

only shredder has it for zealot right?

[royal vortex]

and bolter

[ripe quest]

Boltgun too

[royal vortex]

flamer actually too

[polar nexus]

lol

[ripe quest]

I might do a Insp Barrage Flamer with VoT, left BP, and throwing knives. No toughness regen from talents other than that.

[royal vortex]

based

[ripe quest]

See what happens

Shroudfield Flamer

[polar nexus]

reassuringly accurate or glory hunter on a tg sharing vt hnnn

[royal vortex]

gloryhunter is probs more consistent

i think dough runs glory hunter/gets hot with born leader on his plasma

[lone matrix]

what makes heavy sword good i noticed it is good against zerks and hoards

[copper hawk]

holy shit

that'z awzom

can i have one

(to eat)

[cerulean pike]

holy shit i passed out for two hours on this thing

[copper hawk]

u shouldnt do that

u should do crack and stay awake 4ever

[quaint verge]

Well, I passed the exam

[copper hawk]

good jorb !!

proudz of u..

GakAnn..

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

congrats

[quaint verge]

Thanks

We got mowed down and we thought we wouldn't pass

Then they said, yall passed

Rollercoaster

[royal vortex]

[quaint verge]

[verbal marlin]

Rolled a pretty damn good Crucis. Not gonna be changing the perks- more enemies have flak armour than carapace, and the Crucius' regular attacks are the headbonks so weakspot damage stays.
Am curious what Blessings and Blessing combos are good for the Crucis? (I sadly don't have many IIIs or IVs yet)

[naive star]

Unyielding would make sense as its for the big boys?

[copper hawk]

U have almost a god roll thammer

I think flak is kinda useless w thammer

Since it does good damage against flak and hits bp w/o it

Unyielding is a must

I'd say swap flak 4 unyielding

And keep rolling hammers till u get thrust 4

[native cargo]

nuh uh

[copper hawk]

Cuz w/o thrust 4, u need +maniacs to hit break pointz

Yuh huh

[native cargo]

nuh uh

[copper hawk]

U haz glorp 4 brainz

Zilly rat..

Go blay tf2 snoodling..

[native cargo]

you to my nuts

[copper hawk]

[native cargo]

I was playing tf2 then you left and then we got really good players

and it was bad cus they were too good

couldn't buss

[fading vale]

weakspot to unyielding and thrust to thrust 4

then it's basically a perfect hammer

[cerulean moth]

No t4 thrust

its BRICKED

ITS TRASSSSHH

https://tenor.com/bW7go.gif

oph

oh

nvm

[fading vale]

yeah they have room to upgrade it

[umbral kindle]

Weak spot and crit damage are the worst perks in the game, it's 10% of your base damage added on, not 10% more overall

[fading vale]

whatever you do, do not brick your hammer by keeping weakspot

please

flak is a great perk now since the normals have improved and mauler HP went up to 3000

[verbal marlin]

Really?! Damn, ok.

I got weakspot damage on my Vet's lasgun, that's staying there because he's poppin' heads left and right.
I'll switch out weakspot damage here for Unyielding.

And yeah, Thrust IV?

[umbral kindle]

yep

[fading vale]

yup

then it's basically perfect

slaughterer 4 is the only other blessing alternative

but you have headtaker 4

so no need

[verbal marlin]

Thx a ton!

[lone pecan]

What is the rating where a +3 stamina curio is actually +3, 76?

[placid hedge]

Does anyone know what the stability stat does on a brauto? I really can't figure out what the difference is in the psykhanium. I got this but idk if the stability is too low on it.

[ember yew]

forget about it, you already got perfect one

[placid hedge]

The 600k ordo spent was worth it then

[still quartz]

Stability is really just recoil control

Not too important

[royal vortex]

just had 2 dodges rubberbanded in a row

into a fkin trapper net

with 4 gunners and a million crushers

thank u fatshark

[ember yew]

had that 4 times in 2 days

like YEAH PERFECT DODGE

Game: nah

and here's a fire nade on top

cooking

also, 50/50 of the time the game rubberband me back to the starting location (after mission starts)

after i run for like 5 secs

[royal vortex]

it didn't even rubberband me actually

it fucking cancelled the dodge

my dodge counter gets refreshed instantly

it's like

hey dude

No.

https://streamable.com/rm697y

[tribal root]

was it that dude behind you blocking you?

shit gets me all the time. Hard not to. Ogryn

[royal vortex]

no cuz it wouldn't've pushed me forward and then pulled me back while also refunding the dodges

it's the game just deciding i didn't actually do that

[tribal root]

weird. going off only the bar it reads like client-server desync. Quantum style crap.

Someone was looking at you funny. Probably AI director

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-commissar-tzeentch-confused-gif-26391578

[solar gorge]

there's a spot on this map at the event with the powercells where a trapper can get you from it's spawnpoint thru the walls if you stand too close

discovered that the hard way yesterday

[hushed knoll]

[royal vortex]

hello stan

[frank night]

Maybe u should cancel being awake

[placid fiber]

Oof

That sucks

[royal vortex]

no

[frank night]

ye

[royal vortex]

ive had 2 games in a row where everyone but me goes down within 15 seconds at one point

im out here singlehandedly saving the tertium war effort

they need me bro

[placid fiber]

The weekenders are getting on sooner...

[coarse birch]

Oh god ive been off for a few days am i gonna come back to some ass

[royal vortex]

dude i started queueing at 3 am on a wednesday

i know what im gettin

[solar gorge]

week end pubbing is difficulty 6

[royal vortex]

i take my payment for the run saves in the form of dumb killsteals

https://streamable.com/zmq5kr

[placid fiber]

Oh 3am ers are kinda ass sometimes >.>

[royal vortex]

"what is my purpose"
"you shred them so that i can get a funny tknife clip"

that first knife was definitely intentional

btw

[placid fiber]

You missed the rager, to kill the rager xD

[royal vortex]

im working on a level the heretics don't even understand

[placid fiber]

I'd believe that lol

[coarse birch]

The 5 amers are usually fine or people who have just never played a game

[royal vortex]

that zellith guy is p ok he just got memed on

[placid fiber]

The 3amers are meh

[royal vortex]

all the ppl today have been ok

[placid fiber]

I know cause I have played a lot of 3am games lol

[royal vortex]

but i refuse to hishock pub because ill get the fkin jitters the moment everyone dies and i can't handle the stress repeatedly

[placid fiber]

Yeah, that is rough on the body x.x

[royal vortex]

its the only time i start panicking a lil its fkin annoying

[placid fiber]

You don't tend to do better, like me, when panicking do u >.>'

It's not a fun skill, trust me

[royal vortex]

no i do about the same

its just annoyin cuz its a goddamn videogame

[placid fiber]

I get that

It is stupid, yeah

[frozen glen]

just b chillin and get used to clutching in pubs

clutching in premades is stressful tho

u get people screaming in ur ear

[royal vortex]

clutching in premades is like activating the fkin schizophrenia mode

[placid fiber]

When you have to clutch a group of top tier players... yeah that would be stressful lol

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/d5xu8r

lore accurate psyker gameplay

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[placid fiber]

xD

I remember watching that before, it was inspiring

[coarse birch]

I have never clutched in a full premade

Ive played like 3 in the last year tbf

[royal vortex]

my thing is like my goddamn hands go numb

which is so goddamn annoying because i am trying to use them to play the game

[coarse birch]

Back when i was running twins non stop i had to clutch every time though lol

[royal vortex]

twins at least if ur doing hardmode if ppl die early enough u can suicide cuz its faster to try again than to solo

[coarse birch]

True

[placid fiber]

Oh hey I found my chair's 5th wheel lol

Didn't go to far after I threw the chair the other day

well... I mean I threw it twice yesterday so it could have been under our couch lol

but it was on one of the lower shelves of my desk

[oak canyon]

oh shit is that why it feels like ive been playing with actual ogrins

[placid fiber]

Probably lol

Weekenders don't give af

[oak canyon]

bre

[analog heron]

Josho carry me in twins hard

[frozen ibex]

I'm numb to the pain.

[crimson juniper]

which blessing do I swap out for headtaker here? or is there something more optimal?

[tropic pelican]

i'd say ssweep to headtaker, crit damage to flak

[polar nexus]

that thing melts

but i discoverd a bit late that you need to ads...

my shots were all over the place

[wraith helm]

I thought the laspistol was always on point

[steep flame]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TitleDrop

us rejects need to fight against the dark tide

[placid fiber]

Looks like an autolaspistol

[zinc talon]

fangirling over the one sided drum

[placid fiber]

I don't get it, but, okay

[zinc talon]

the last bond movie had this stupid as shit glock or something with a double feeding dual drum underneath it

larger than the pistol

[placid fiber]

Sounds a bit counter-intuitive

[zinc talon]

one of these

[placid fiber]

wtf is that?

[zinc talon]

re tar diculous is what it is

[placid fiber]

That looks stupid af

[zinc talon]

each holds 72 rounds

and credit where it's due

the weight of the mag would stabilize the pistol like crazy for automatic fire

but what a mall ninja steven segal approach

[placid fiber]

That definitely looks rediculous

[acoustic dune]

Look fun

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-guy-gun-haha-gif-21419544

it's uh

the opposite of this

[placid fiber]

stable when fired?

[zinc talon]

til the ammo starts leaving

[acoustic dune]

I kinda wanna see a revolver version of that

[zinc talon]

more you shoot lighter it gets, by a factor bigger than the gun

[acoustic dune]

How big can we make the cylinder

[placid fiber]

Yes

[zinc talon]

eleventy

[placid fiber]

Next think you know there's gonna be a 200 round version...

[acoustic dune]

We can use the mg ammo casing

Make it heavier then the hand gun

[fleet zealot]

Im gonna be more radical than everyone here but this is the blessing rework that will drop when they add weapon customization

100% of the 50% of time

[vast basin]

Weapon customization? But this isn't cod

[fleet zealot]

[steel agate]

Judging by the cursed weapons I’ve seen already, ima have to disagree

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/deadhorse-lol-gif-4927979

[steel agate]

Vanity or not that shit is present

[vast basin]

Only because modders fixed their half-started framework

I don't see weapon customization happening until like 2025, if ever

[obtuse solstice]

man rashad is bonkers

[hybrid gull]

is melee weak spot damage any good on a knife or should i roll it to something else

[vast basin]

Roll it

Weak spot in general is not good

There are some talents with weak spot that are ok, but generally weak spot as a weapon perk is garbage

[coarse birch]

You never want weakspot damage as a perk

Its calculated in a way that gives you like +4 damage

Basically a dead perk

[hybrid gull]

ew

[faint vapor]

yeah sadly weakspot is mostly for weapons with huge damage as 5% of something like 2000 damage will maybe matter

[north sedge]

Not even

Still shit!

[faint vapor]

pain

even the Vet's funny +30% weakspot talent only gives like +100 damage on a power sword block attack crit lol

[ember yew]

and this is not Tarkov

||BUT IM GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474859644494544898/1196135863856402503/image.png?ex=65b68755&is=65a41255&hm=898aed69bd40a1af794d3954c1af499e3f1b78a90ecd48b5022f2eaa448931e1&

since im a certified gunner zealot

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-shooting-gif-23980108

[coarse birch]

Damn good taste too

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/aye-shake-twerk-bounce-get-it-gif-11780664

You run up on the combat line to finally engage the green tide

The emperors name on your lips you crest the hill and-

Ten. Thousand. Orks.

All doing what that model is doing

[solar gorge]

Grenade ya nob, kuickly throw it back

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-taco-smile-gif-15840669

[open pollen]

No comms? :c

[open pollen]

Gunlet? Zunner?

Gunalot!

[ember yew]

Zunner sounds like something on Tick Tock, Gunalot it is then.

[open pollen]

It works on two levels! Its both a portmanteau and self-describing!

Gunalots gun a lot

I wish I had more loadout slots. As it is 4 are dedicated to variations of the same thammer build.

[ember yew]

there's a mod for that

but idk if it still working

[open pollen]

Oh? I should investigate that. As it stands I downloaded a lot of QoL mods I have yet to impliment.

[ember yew]

More Characters and Loadouts

on nexus

[open pollen]

Ah. Danke.

[ember yew]

[gusty lynx]

Hrmmm. Stats could be better, but the blessings are, afaik perfect? And I can fix both the perks. In Melks Shop.

[faint vapor]

not 380 with lvl 4 blessings and perks

brb disposing of it

[gusty lynx]

Yeah you rite lmao

[ember yew]

[open pollen]

I pretty much only use Melk to farm blessings these days.

Its still funny to me that Melk has his own slot machines no one actually uses.

[north sedge]

Only one worth using is curios, and uh, you're not exactly spamming that either

[unborn hemlock]

Can anyone recommend a zealot leveling build? I'm enjoying the zealot so far, not really struggling either but want to see what people would recommend

[hidden verge]

blood redemption says it replenish 50% toughness on melee kill but I noticed it's just a small amount

is this skill work correctly?

[fleet zealot]

Loll

Increases toughness gained on melee kill by 50%

[blazing fossil]

It’s a great skill for horde blender builds

[fleet zealot]

Im just laughing

At someone thinking it will replenish half their toughness per kill

[cerulean pike]

ITS TOO HOT

[naive star]

Melk's offering

Just change perks to Flak and Maniac/Carapace?

[sterile stone]

@median steeple Do you play warframe

[shy hull]

Rate my crusher

[north sedge]

It increases what you normally get by 50%, it's a 2.5% increase

[shy hull]

You don't get 50% of your total toughness, you get 50% more toughness than a regular melee kill give, which is 5%
So you gain 7.5% toughness on a melee kill instead of 5 : It decent but not amazing

[shy hull]

Unyelding / Carapace is better imo

[naive star]

Ok, going for the heavy stuff with it makes sense

[shy hull]

Yeah maniac you get the BP, but most of the time you do'nt have the time to use bolter on them anyway

It's better to just magduump on ogryns

[wraith helm]

Better than nothing. If I'm not running a crit build, I am using blood redemption as I am more melee focused and it works

[hidden verge]

thanks guys

[north sedge]

Second wind is extremely strong and is right near it

[shy hull]

If you're tryng to reach second wind and not running crit it's nice yeah, but i wouldn't spend 2 talents ponts just to grab this if i don't go all the way to second wind

[ornate bone]

rolled first knife for stealth build and got this. Do I keep the blessings and change the perks?

[obtuse solstice]

bad?

[hidden verge]

yes of course I go through blood redemption to get second wind

btw is scrouge good?

bleed build or something?

[vast basin]

Scourge is nice for Crit builds

That hammer is salvageable if you have thrust and ht/slaught

[noble bobcat]

guess who finally found lvl 4 Thrust after dozens of thousands of plasteel wasted

[wraith helm]

Works superbly well for me. I substain longer and rewards me for slaying faster

[lone matrix]

how good is the shotgun

i see ton of people run this weapon

[wraith helm]

Depends. Agri is probably good all around with full bore and no respite

Kantrael is good for spamming fire

[north sedge]

kantrael is very strong, lawby good, agri is ok with specific builds, mostly on vet

[shy hull]

Dpeending on your talent tree, there are often jsut better defensive options for 2 talents poitns

[shy hull]

Just change the blessings and it's a really good one i think

[wraith helm]

Probably the best i use for any high difficulty setting you want to throw at me

[shy hull]

You should try playing with EwEw and the momentum toughness talent, they would give you a lot of passive defense even outside of hordes

The momentum talent can give up to 40% toughness, it's big

[wraith helm]

I find ewew too slow and i did use the toughness modifier for the momentum keystone but i found being able to quickly regain stacks helps with upkeeping damage

[north sedge]

not a fan of that node

yea the right side is so much better

[cerulean pike]

EWEW is only used as a travel node now

[mental coral]

It is?

[north sedge]

this is mostly the build i use but i drop disdain and attack speed for second wind

[mental coral]

That’s like my main toughness regen

[north sedge]

ewew isn't as strong as it was

[cerulean pike]

It used to be like what 7.5 before?

[wraith helm]

Its not sadly